*[UPDATE!] I recorded this RV JUST as the new 2023 updates were rolling out. Full details weren't yet available. Alliance has gone to double azdel composite paneling walls for 2023! That means now both the inside and outside layers are azdel! Awesome update!*
My an my fat fingers. The Alliance Valor 26V11 is a awesome toy hauler.I think this is perfect for most person families,it has alot of space everywhere. I like that it has dual fuel cells an a air compressor.I like that it is ready for a generator,plus it has 3 ac units at 40,500btu's an the furnace is 40,000 btu's awesome. Thank you Uncle Josh for showing us this unit an for all the information!!!!! Your number one fan Leonard Nelson from NC.
Alliance took a long time interviewing customers/RV owners when putting together their RV’s. Their customer service is amazing, especially when taking into consideration that they’re production RV’s and not like DRV or other custom made units.
I really like the fact that RV manufacturers realize there are people who probably want toy haulers but they don't have "toys" to put in them. Such people just prefer the extra space and versatility.
I'm glad Alliance is so responsive to customer input! Replacing the poured epoxy counters with solid surface is great as the epoxy tends to yellow over time. I would love to see this with a theater seat plus a table and chairs as an option. Impressed with their solar options and the Solar + is... well a plus! However, I'm not a fan of the Renogy system as is. Would like to see manufacturers offer options for whole rig power not just one leg. Maybe a Volta system or Victron setup? I want to be able to run alls the things (including the other 2 AC's)! I know that would need a few more panels and about an 18K battery bank. Go big or stay on the porch...er... patio ramp!
I love that 4 seater couch! I love the glass doors on the garage! I'd pick the queen bed so I can get around the bed to make it. The main bath and shower is a bit smaller than I like but it's doable. 2 washer dryer prep? Love it I'd have a side by side in the bedroom and one of those white upper dryer lower top loading washer dryer combo unit. That way the super grubby muddy special clothing won't drop ucky stuff in my normal clothes washer/dryer. An air compresser? Kool beans! Other than needing a semi to pull it, I'm in love with it. It's really way too big for me but I don't care I still love it! And I do appreciate every video you do Josh. Your the 🤓🤙👍
Not sure why I watch this video because it’s way too big of a camper for my needs but it is kind of neat to see the options and things that can be done in my own travel trailer. For instance,A real “storm door”.! Good job JTRVN.
This one will be a great couples fifth wheel. We don’t have toys but all of the garage space will be a great hobby/craft area. Washer/dryer in the toy area👍👍. Would have to give you the four butt seating sofa. Now all that I need to do is get my pickup truck stretcher out & stretch my half to to one ton. Great video Josh, I think that this time a first for a cat moment instead of a squirrel moment, must be a location thing
Absolutely amazing if you have motorcycles or an ATV to haul🙂but if you don’t, then a traditional 40 ft 5th wheel offers soooooo much more luxury and livability👍
If I was going to get something this big this would be a top option. I wish some of the smaller ones like Ember had a back porch like that or even a half one. I love the porches like that.
Durango D311bhd 36ft8" & has a small garage big enough for a quad about 6ft & has back porch.Not quite long enough for 1 motorbike though maybe with the door open during transport. Durango also has other one's too.
Alliance has changed the garage tv mount in about December 2021. Prior to then, the garage tv did pull down. Supplier issues, now they have fixed mounts. I have a Valor 42V13 that was built in January 2022. Also, the Valor and the Paradigm share I terror styling. Furniture, cabinets, etc are the same between the two brands. Totally agree with the boondocking with solar plus. It works for days, with consideration of your other energy use when the sun is not out fully.
Paradigm went thru an interior redesign for 2023 -- I don't believe Valor followed it but man I see so many RVs I could be mistaken Obviously they run a similar "Trim Package"
I narrowed down my choices because of you. Absolutely love your videos. I don't know if you realize just how much of an impact you have on the rv community. Thank you for just being you. We appreciate it 👍💯👏🙌
I've check a couple of these Alliances out and they are really, really nice. We've come full circle back to the grand design toy hauler (25G) but if we had gone fifth wheel the Alliances were up there with the finalists.
If I were in 5th wheel territory, this would be an amazing unit. I like the multiple places to put the washer/dryer and a separate bedroom for the family. Granted I would end up paying Class A or Super C prices once I factor a truck and hitch setup. Could work as a seasonal with a hotshot driver to move it as needed.
Super cool toy hauler. Throw in the generator on this one and lets go. On board air compressor is slay as my daughter would say. Move over Voltage, Fusion, Raptor, Seismic, and Momentum and make some room. Thanks Nerd!
I'm afraid that in about one more generation I'll have to start using urban dictionary to understand things. I can still barely translate currently thankfully One of these days I'll have to start titling my videos like "When the hauler is bussin"
I like this. If I could change (or make sure) is that if I went with the Queen size bed that I could get bigger side stands for my C-PAP. Everything else is great. Love the Fridge and Solar package
Wow I like this one...this might be tie with Momentum. How is Alliance customer service and rallies? Boy I wish I could see it in person. Thanks Josh for the great review.
Arguably equal or perhaps superior to what GD provides. I think GD has a little better front end fit and finish usually but I do feel alliance’s back end support is currently unrivaled
That may be difficult as Mallard is a private label brand offered by only one specific retailer. Mallard and North Trail are essentially the same thing but they do tend to have different floorplans So there’s a slim chance I might have a similar North Trail in my catalog for you to enjoy? I’m not sure
@@JoshtheRVNerd awesome thank you for the info! I was hoping you had one. I just bought one last week and we’ll just say the dealer walk through was lackluster and they didn’t really know much. I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos
The air compressor & dual fuel tanks & king bed would do it for me if I was in the v5th wheel market!!! Could someone make a TT with an air compressor PLEASE!!! 🐾😎👍 THX NERD!!
I still think the double 12 volt fridge is way smarter for redundancy instead of a larger 12v like this. Not to mention sometimes you only need 1 smaller fridge for a short weekend trip. What model was that double 12v fridge on Uncle Josh? Can’t remember now.
Dual 12 V fridges is very cool but it actually takes up at significant chunk more space as compared to one fridge like this. Not a lot of RVs have the space to spare
Love your site , great. Lookin for 26’ - 30’ , Queen rear end and Murphy front , no dining area . Like the wildwood fsx 176 QBHK except the u dinette in front , Thanks
In the market for a new rig. Very interested in this unit. However, did I see exposed wires in the underbelly by the drain pipe? As well as it looks like someone stepped on the skylight and crushed it on one side? Probably while installing the solar? This would make me question their quality control when sending these units out.
Hey Josh can you tell us more about the S-Series and All Access series 5th Wheel Valors and what the differences will be with the standard 5th wheel Valor?
The thing I don't like about toy haulers is I feel like people put way too much weight behind their axle I love this floorplan .I need to just get off my but and finish fixing my 5thweel I was trying to find a way to fit my 4runner in it above the axle but I would need to loose my slide out
@@JoshtheRVNerd good to know I never thought about that. I hate hauling with weight on both ends but if you jam all your living space to the front all the weight follows it lol . Many il make some kind of side loading lift to load the truck and keep the kitchen in the back jk 🤣 .. another reason y I need to stop dreaming to big and just finish the project I have started so I have something to trade in . I have a ram 3500 drw so I can definitely upgrade to a bigger 5th wheel someday
What would you prefer to see in those areas? Mfgs don’t use azdel commonly across horizontals pants because it has a lower load bearing capacity, and would not be suitable for report for structures
I would love your take on the Heartland TH line-up in comparison to the valor? I feel like they don't get much credit for some things that they have going on and I'm wondering why...? what don't I know....?
I do credit Heartland's Cyclone series with almost single handed elevating this "rough and rugged toy hauler market" into today's "luxury fifth wheel toy hauler market" we know today But I haven't followed them a great deal recently and am not well in tune with what they're doing
Highly recommend the Cedar Creek 377BH. It's an absolute beast but it's got the loft steps you're looking for, as well as a pretty solid kitchen considering in Midbunks the kitchen space gets pinched a tad.
WOW, your'e reviewing a toy hauler? Josh, are you feeling well today? Edit: I do like this floor plan a great deal. Would I need to get an F350 or an F450 to tote this sucker?
Once you get beyond the Montana level the playing field gets pretty elite and sparse. There aren't a lot of players even operating at that level So things like Riverstone, DRV/Mobile Suites, Luxe don't exactly have a lot of competition but they also don't have nearly as many clients available
*[UPDATE!] I recorded this RV JUST as the new 2023 updates were rolling out. Full details weren't yet available. Alliance has gone to double azdel composite paneling walls for 2023! That means now both the inside and outside layers are azdel! Awesome update!*
My an my fat fingers. The Alliance Valor 26V11 is a awesome toy hauler.I think this is perfect for most person families,it has alot of space everywhere. I like that it has dual fuel cells an a air compressor.I like that it is ready for a generator,plus it has 3 ac units at 40,500btu's an the furnace is 40,000 btu's awesome. Thank you Uncle Josh for showing us this unit an for all the information!!!!! Your number one fan Leonard Nelson from NC.
Finally, a solar system should be an option on every RV made if it applies to some folk's needs! Thanks for sharing!
Alliance took a long time interviewing customers/RV owners when putting together their RV’s. Their customer service is amazing, especially when taking into consideration that they’re production RV’s and not like DRV or other custom made units.
It’s truly their customer focus and support that has earned my respect for them. They really are trying to be the change everyone wants to see
I really like the fact that RV manufacturers realize there are people who probably want toy haulers but they don't have "toys" to put in them. Such people just prefer the extra space and versatility.
I have an 11’ garage on my 320G. I can fit my full dresser Harley or 2x 700 Yamaha Kodiak ATVs in it. Not everyone has a 4 seater SxS
I'm glad Alliance is so responsive to customer input! Replacing the poured epoxy counters with solid surface is great as the epoxy tends to yellow over time. I would love to see this with a theater seat plus a table and chairs as an option. Impressed with their solar options and the Solar + is... well a plus! However, I'm not a fan of the Renogy system as is. Would like to see manufacturers offer options for whole rig power not just one leg. Maybe a Volta system or Victron setup? I want to be able to run alls the things (including the other 2 AC's)! I know that would need a few more panels and about an 18K battery bank. Go big or stay on the porch...er... patio ramp!
I have a 2022 xlr boost 32rzr14 and this will be my upgrade model in a few years. Beautiful rig for boondocking! Thanks for the review!
Nice choice
I love that 4 seater couch! I love the glass doors on the garage! I'd pick the queen bed so I can get around the bed to make it. The main bath and shower is a bit smaller than I like but it's doable. 2 washer dryer prep? Love it I'd have a side by side in the bedroom and one of those white upper dryer lower top loading washer dryer combo unit. That way the super grubby muddy special clothing won't drop ucky stuff in my normal clothes washer/dryer. An air compresser? Kool beans! Other than needing a semi to pull it, I'm in love with it. It's really way too big for me but I don't care I still love it! And I do appreciate every video you do Josh. Your the 🤓🤙👍
So far, my most favorite utility glamper you've reviewed. Best of all, no plaid. LoL
I love everything about this! Saw one at a horse show last summer and was impressed.
I've never been much of a toy hauler fan but these are some of the first that really started turning my head
Alliance makes some great units.
I'm growing as a fan
mostly due to my diet though LOL :)
Not sure why I watch this video because it’s way too big of a camper for my needs but it is kind of neat to see the options and things that can be done in my own travel trailer. For instance,A real “storm door”.! Good job JTRVN.
Ty For tuning in anyway!!
This one will be a great couples fifth wheel. We don’t have toys but all of the garage space will be a great hobby/craft area. Washer/dryer in the toy area👍👍. Would have to give you the four butt seating sofa. Now all that I need to do is get my pickup truck stretcher out & stretch my half to to one ton. Great video Josh, I think that this time a first for a cat moment instead of a squirrel moment, must be a location thing
Hahaha
If I had the courage to pull that thing, I'd get it! It ticks a lot of my boxes.
Absolutely amazing if you have motorcycles or an ATV to haul🙂but if you don’t, then a traditional 40 ft 5th wheel offers soooooo much more luxury and livability👍
Facts
Excellent information cause I'm looking for the best full-time unit. That means throw winter as well as the summer!!! 100% RVing.
If I was going to get something this big this would be a top option.
I wish some of the smaller ones like Ember had a back porch like that or even a half one. I love the porches like that.
Durango D311bhd 36ft8" & has a small garage big enough for a quad about 6ft & has back porch.Not quite long enough for 1 motorbike though
maybe with the door open during transport.
Durango also has other one's too.
Alliance has changed the garage tv mount in about December 2021. Prior to then, the garage tv did pull down. Supplier issues, now they have fixed mounts. I have a Valor 42V13 that was built in January 2022.
Also, the Valor and the Paradigm share I terror styling. Furniture, cabinets, etc are the same between the two brands.
Totally agree with the boondocking with solar plus. It works for days, with consideration of your other energy use when the sun is not out fully.
Paradigm went thru an interior redesign for 2023 -- I don't believe Valor followed it but man I see so many RVs I could be mistaken
Obviously they run a similar "Trim Package"
I absolutely love my Alliance paradigm 385fl
Nice Ty
I narrowed down my choices because of you. Absolutely love your videos. I don't know if you realize just how much of an impact you have on the rv community. Thank you for just being you. We appreciate it 👍💯👏🙌
Those tracks in the garage are called airline track
Ah! Ty
I've check a couple of these Alliances out and they are really, really nice. We've come full circle back to the grand design toy hauler (25G) but if we had gone fifth wheel the Alliances were up there with the finalists.
If I were in 5th wheel territory, this would be an amazing unit. I like the multiple places to put the washer/dryer and a separate bedroom for the family.
Granted I would end up paying Class A or Super C prices once I factor a truck and hitch setup. Could work as a seasonal with a hotshot driver to move it as needed.
Super cool toy hauler. Throw in the generator on this one and lets go. On board air compressor is slay as my daughter would say. Move over Voltage, Fusion, Raptor, Seismic, and Momentum and make some room. Thanks Nerd!
I'm afraid that in about one more generation I'll have to start using urban dictionary to understand things. I can still barely translate currently thankfully
One of these days I'll have to start titling my videos like "When the hauler is bussin"
Looking to upgrade soon from a Nash to an Alliance. I was thinking Grand Design but the more I research I really like the Alliance.
Their after-sale support is pretty unrivaled currently
This is one of my top 3 rigs in in the market for. And your in Idaho. Hmmm
Well.. this was recorded in Idaho but we have alliance at several stores
Very Nice design and Layout 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 but where's medicine cabinet with my barley pop?😁😁😀😀 Great Work Josh 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Ty
I wish they would have put washer/ dryer hookups in the garage area, love 💗 the couch, and the bed, extra big!
There are 2 options for W&D.
Up front in the closet and on the front center wall of the garage.
I love this RV!!!
My favorite hauler to date
And I am not normally a big fan of haulers
I like this. If I could change (or make sure) is that if I went with the Queen size bed that I could get bigger side stands for my C-PAP. Everything else is great. Love the Fridge and Solar package
The bed side stands are wider on both sides if you get the queen mattress.
We have the 42v13 and the TV in the garage does pull down.
I’ve heard they change that somewhat recently. I haven’t been able to confirm but I’m wondering if it might be supplier based
Wow I like this one...this might be tie with Momentum. How is Alliance customer service and rallies? Boy I wish I could see it in person. Thanks Josh for the great review.
Arguably equal or perhaps superior to what GD provides. I think GD has a little better front end fit and finish usually but I do feel alliance’s back end support is currently unrivaled
Once again, Josh... got a `94 Ford Ranger... I'm good, right? RIIIGHTT???? C"MON MAN, IT'S A FORD FRICKIN RANGER, BABY
Josh!! Review a Mallard Pathfinder if you have one. you are the only RV reviewer i trust!!!
That may be difficult as Mallard is a private label brand offered by only one specific retailer. Mallard and North Trail are essentially the same thing but they do tend to have different floorplans
So there’s a slim chance I might have a similar North Trail in my catalog for you to enjoy? I’m not sure
@@JoshtheRVNerd awesome thank you for the info! I was hoping you had one. I just bought one last week and we’ll just say the dealer walk through was lackluster and they didn’t really know much. I thoroughly enjoy all of your videos
garage big enough for most things, i would put in both sets of laundry units, why not lol. .... like the solar package, much better.
I’m pretty sure this is the rv we will be getting soon.
Nice!
The air compressor & dual
fuel tanks & king bed would do it for me if I was in the v5th wheel market!!! Could someone make a TT with an air compressor PLEASE!!!
🐾😎👍 THX NERD!!
Valor has new models out now 👍
Don’t see many plugs in the kitchen, hoping they are under the counter!
Criminy that's huge!
lol and they actually make EVEN BIGGER
Love this floor plan but still haven't found a toy hauler that can dethrone my voltages 165 gallons of fresh water capacity.
Yukon, voltage’s non-you hauler cousin, does those huge fresh tanks too
17:16 it looks like there's an opening where the front sewer pipe is, am I right?
I still think the double 12 volt fridge is way smarter for redundancy instead of a larger 12v like this. Not to mention sometimes you only need 1 smaller fridge for a short weekend trip. What model was that double 12v fridge on Uncle Josh? Can’t remember now.
Dual 12 V fridges is very cool but it actually takes up at significant chunk more space as compared to one fridge like this. Not a lot of RVs have the space to spare
Love your site , great. Lookin for 26’ - 30’ , Queen rear end and Murphy front , no dining area . Like the wildwood fsx 176 QBHK except the u dinette in front , Thanks
I'm unfortunately not aware of such a critter..
In the market for a new rig. Very interested in this unit. However, did I see exposed wires in the underbelly by the drain pipe? As well as it looks like someone stepped on the skylight and crushed it on one side? Probably while installing the solar? This would make me question their quality control when sending these units out.
Hey Josh can you tell us more about the S-Series and All Access series 5th Wheel Valors and what the differences will be with the standard 5th wheel Valor?
I haven't had a good chance to dive into that quite yet. Apologies
We have the 2022 model and never used the rear TV. I might take it down.
Ty for the info
Almost forgot! I hope you have a review of the Alliance Valor 42V13 and 43V13 in the can just waiting to press the publish button!
Not quite yet but I’m told that’s what I really need to watch out for
Side patio correct?
@@JoshtheRVNerd 42V13 has the side Patio, 43V13 has no side patio and a second full bath.
The thing I don't like about toy haulers is I feel like people put way too much weight behind their axle I love this floorplan .I need to just get off my but and finish fixing my 5thweel I was trying to find a way to fit my 4runner in it above the axle but I would need to loose my slide out
Unloaded toy haulers are notorious for heavy hitch weights. That’s done intentionally to balance rear loads
@@JoshtheRVNerd good to know I never thought about that. I hate hauling with weight on both ends but if you jam all your living space to the front all the weight follows it lol . Many il make some kind of side loading lift to load the truck and keep the kitchen in the back jk 🤣 .. another reason y I need to stop dreaming to big and just finish the project I have started so I have something to trade in . I have a ram 3500 drw so I can definitely upgrade to a bigger 5th wheel someday
For that price, does it come with a butler and maid ? They could sleep in the garage .
I can't believe there's no Roof-Jacuzzi option either
_flips desk_
With a King bed the Maid could sleep up front also 😝🤣😂
I don’t get a company that uses Azdel on there sidewalls; but OSB flooring and roofing 😮😮😮😮
What would you prefer to see in those areas?
Mfgs don’t use azdel commonly across horizontals pants because it has a lower load bearing capacity, and would not be suitable for report for structures
@@JoshtheRVNerd PLYWOOD
Love the layout. Is there a travel trailer toy hauler like this?
valor has a TT-th now
As Sarah mentioned Valor has finally cracked into the TT TH market
I would love your take on the Heartland TH line-up in comparison to the valor? I feel like they don't get much credit for some things that they have going on and I'm wondering why...? what don't I know....?
I do credit Heartland's Cyclone series with almost single handed elevating this "rough and rugged toy hauler market" into today's "luxury fifth wheel toy hauler market" we know today
But I haven't followed them a great deal recently and am not well in tune with what they're doing
I would like to know price of this unit.
The Alliance Valor 26V
I hate tracking dirt outside 3:25
Josh, can you recommend a 5th wheel that has a loft with stairs instead of a ladder safer for kids and "adults"? Thanks!
Highly recommend the Cedar Creek 377BH. It's an absolute beast but it's got the loft steps you're looking for, as well as a pretty solid kitchen considering in Midbunks the kitchen space gets pinched a tad.
Durango gold mid bunk :)
Nick Zalan NAILED IT and beat me to it. Here's a video on that one: bit.ly/3DnvnPd
WOW, your'e reviewing a toy hauler? Josh, are you feeling well today?
Edit: I do like this floor plan a great deal. Would I need to get an F350 or an F450 to tote this sucker?
Oh yea! Heavy pin weight!
"Josh review a toy hauler!"
_I review a toy hauler_
"Josh are you feeling well?"
I can't win man! lol :)
regarding towing - you're dually *minimum* here
Noticed there are no slide awnings.. seems like a rig this expensive would have those on all the slides.
They can be installed but there are cases where you don’t want them so they’re not forced
High wind zones for example.
Looks nice.
We are debating between alliance and momentum
Both are pretty alpha-level haulers
Alliance all the way.
Check out the Valor 40v13 we have had ours almost a year and absolutely love it 👌👍
@@jamesglenn520 That was the first valor i ever recorded! bit.ly/3PIrOGf
I was immediately impressed
Hey RV Nerd
Hey greg!
Sweden? How about Switzerland? 😅
lol yeah -- one of those Scandinavian countries.
Now if a 3/4 ton could pull it, 🙄
Will my 96 ford escort tow it?
Man I want to see it try lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd
Just kidding, had to ask. Love your content!
Only 125k I have 60k
CFYT
TY Jackie! Been a while since I saw this -- took me a minute to remember :)
Customers services is great but its junk like the others. I had so many problems with my Valor…….
Josh who is superior to riversone..lux
Once you get beyond the Montana level the playing field gets pretty elite and sparse. There aren't a lot of players even operating at that level
So things like Riverstone, DRV/Mobile Suites, Luxe don't exactly have a lot of competition but they also don't have nearly as many clients available