That was an excellent explanation of those castle motors. I have a 2028 800kv motor and its a beast of a motor. I really find this video to be very useful and the fact that you did some homework here on these babies. Keep it technical and keep them coming. Thanks
Thanks! I learnt lots. It would be good to have a label behind (or on) each motor, 'cause I can't remember the names of the first 3 by the time you got to the last.
Awesome info and details man. I just got a mamba x8s combo and came with the 1650kv motor, went to install on my xmaxx and the motor was bad from factory had to send it back. Can’t wait to get it installed and keep bashing around. Thanks again for the info and all your videos. Stay safe
Thank you so much for the detail and great explanation, I really appreciate your time to help out the less informed of us out there. I will be very excited to try one of these motors, you sure make the case for owning at least one 👍.
I appreciate that man, especially when this video had to be completely redone 3 times as I wasn't liking the previous. So to see this comment shows me it was worth it, wanted the best footage for this video 💪
@@InnovationRC it's so much work filming and editing just one video let alone doing it 3 times. I really respect the commitment you have to helping others, thank you.
Great video buddy 👏🏻👏🏻. For my requirements the 1515 22 is my go to motor for most of my rigs. In the LMT its a beast, torque city man, in my V3 Talion it can consisantly do over 100mph. Bang for buck it kicks ass
Hey Fellas I have a 1717-1650 kv motor installed in a Arrma Felony. The motor gets pretty hot. I'm using the standard 16 tooth pinion. Will I need to go to a smaller pinion to regulate the heat? Maybe install cooling fans? I actually burned one of these motors up and I dont wanna do it again.
Very cool info thanks for sharing I did put a 2028 in a limitless and hit 100 mph but it was working hard for rpm everything you said I feel is dead on point 👍👍💯💯🔥🔥
I’ll tell you this is one of those videos that every Large RC channel should be doing. As you know, it is not what they do because going to a skate park and running an RC car up their butt while they scream and yell is what the “people” want. Thanks for giving this your thoughts and time.
Appreciate that a lot man. Most people desire action. Some people already know what I stated in this video. Some don't know and don't want to learn, some do want to learn 😉 A lot of people mainly review one motor, but for now on I will be doing more ultimate motor comparisons for any new motor castle comes out with. I really enjoyed making this video, people find the source of legitimacy substantial making this a solid video. There will be a comparison 2.0 coming soon. Already have plans for it
Amazing vid, great info!! I have been looking at the 1717 & 2028 for my new speed run build on the Arrma Limitless I'm ordering. I almost went with the 2028 1100kv because of the incredible torque & ability to maintain cool. But I think the 1717 would be more fit, specially if I do decide to go with a dual motor setup. If I don't find it to meet my need, I can always toss it into my Typhon 6S & then go with the 2028 in the future if I find i need more power to break 140mph on the Limitless. Again, thanks for such a great informational vid w no BS 😎👍👍
Thanks on that! Glad you enjoyed the video! So you can actually be more affordable and still exceed 140-150 mph with the 1717 1650kv. The 1100kv just gets the vehicle up to speed a little quicker and more efficiently. Downside to the 1100kv is that you'll need to do decent modifications to get it to fit. Dual motor setups are sick! But why use two 1717 motors when the wattage of a single 2028 is MORE than both of them combined? Save space and weight. It looks cool but isn't feasible.
@@InnovationRC Thanks, you're absolutely right. The 2028 will definitely be more cost effective & lighter than twin 1717's. The only reason I even considered the twin motor setup was because it would just be something sweet to add to my collection lol. And with the 2028, like you said, it does need some mods. The motor mount alone runs for about ~$50. I think I will definitely go with the 1717. Maybe buy the Mamba x8 1717 1650kv combo, sell the ESC on eBay & then grab the Mamba xlx2 since I can't seem to find the xlx2 with the 1717 1650kv combo. Cuz if I push that 1717 to 140+ I'm gonna need a cooler running ESC 😄. Castle "claims" the xlx2 runs much cooler than the x8. Anyhow, thanks again bro, Ride'm, Break'm, Fix'm, Repeat! 😎👍
Just curious how that worked out? Burn up or stay cool? I’ve had the 1717 get super hot in the limitless. Was thinking of dropping kv and upping voltage/gearing.
@@donaldfowler7125 I managed to get it up to 122mph so far with the XLX2. Got in a total of 3 runs before the motor got warm, ~165-170F. The ESC barely broke a sweat, didn't get past 123F if my memory serves me correctly. I just sold the 1717 1650kv motor & purchased the 1721 2400kv motor. I put it in my stretched Typhon 6S first. On 4S, it pushed 99mph barely tapping 100% throttle. 3 runs & it was super cool, 102F after 3rd run. The XLX2 didn't get past 113F. Pulled 328A with only 1.07v ripple. And that's geared 34T pinion with a 29T spur on 4S. I have a CNHL 6S speedrun pack coming in today. Hoping to get ~120mph with the same setup.
Thank you so much for the info bro, I'm new to the game and this was very helpful! I'm very ignorant when coming to motor and ESC upgrades, I have an ARRMA Mojave and I love it. I was only looking for a mild upgrade for it so I bought a Castle 1512 and a Mamba monster X 25.2 volt ESC.....I hope I did ok, as like I said I'm just looking for a minor to mild upgrade. I have not installed it yet but I'll leave a comment when I do 👍🏼 Thanks again for the great videos! 🤘🏼
Like Always Brandon, awesome info , saving this vid for references, , I got the Mamba Monster X 8s finally waiting on a motor from JJ Customs, stay safe brother
i been beating my head for days on this matter and along comes this video thank you for going over this in detail i have a v4 kraton motor down and a traxxas maxx with a bad motor as well i think they both will be getting a 2200kv monster x system now ...subscribed too btw
I have the Max 6 ESC and 1650 kv HW motor in my hobao 7tq brushless conversion....6s rated.......not sure if it'll go 💯 MPH....need advice on gearing... currently it has 21 pinion, 46 spur..... Thnx
It is possible to know if the castle 1515 motor can last a long time ? Because I already blew up 2 Arrma 6s motors and I couldn’t rebuild it because the stator broke the magnets. Thanks
Hey man I need help what would you run in a KRATON 4s out of this line up something about the same as the spectrum just running a little cooler and a bit faster
What would you recommend for a Fireteam, preferably run on 6s? Castle or otherwise. Currently running the stock setup on 6s and would like more oomph for speed bashing without getting so hot. No big jumps, just baby bumps and fast running on rough terrain.
@@InnovationRC Geared properly and running 6s would this likely get me more top end or just more mid range torque? I think I'd be fine with just more torque, it's all ready got decent speed for a big vehicle.
I would start with a 23t pinion gear, if you are doing the 2s street eliminator class, do one pull and if it isn't enough from there go up 2 teeth on the pinion at a time. Should result another 3-4 mph per 2 teeth
Great video, thanks for the information. I’m, looking to get an ARRMA EXB and trying to decide between the 800kv & 1100kv motors. Still a little confused but I know more than I did after watching your video, thanks.
Which motor would you recommend for a 1/8th scale e revo ( 6s power) for maximum speed, the 15, 17 or 20 (stock can run up to 70mph)? Also for a 1/10th scale maxx with belted 3.8 inch trencher tires ( max stock speed is 60mph 4s) (4s-6s lipo)? They are both around the 11-15 pound range. If possible I would also like to have good torque and acceleration but speed on both on-road and off-road is mainly what I am looking for since either of the three motors should be able to provide enough power for the cars. The Kv rating as well as the motor and esc is what I need to know.
I just bought the Arrma Infraction and wanting to do the 8s conversion what is this the best combination over the Hobbywing Ez Run Max 6 V3 with a Poseidon Pro 1800kv 8s? Running 1520 series 1650kv or a higher or lower kv ? Do you think 1650kv is the best kv to go with what options and performance i have choosing a motor Thanks
Great information for motor selection. Wanted to eventually convert my summit to a badger like the erevo 2.0 what motor esc and gear set up should I run castle of course?
I would look into a mamba monster X 8s with the 2200kv motor. I wouldn't go 1717 because the summit has a plastic gear switching transmission I believe. 1717 will obliterate it haha
So I'm getting a 30-degree North Losi 5T clone and I'm going to be running the castle 800kv but I came across a great deal on a lightly-used sensorless 800kv and I was wondering if you could talk about your experiences advantages disadvantages between the two(sensored vs sensorless) and keep in mind I'm a Basher I'm not going to be using the sensor at all I don't care to so the sensor doesn't matter but what improvements does the newer one have or will I see little to no difference
I’m new to the Rc world and i want my infraction v2 to do over 130 but i dont know what motor esc and gearing to run to accomplish that mph please help!!!
You really just need to change the esc. The stock motor can handle that speed for sure. But if you need an esc I'd just get a combo. 1717 1650kv motor with a mamba monster x 8s esc
Thank you brother. I love your channel and I would like to get in touch with you for some advice on the conversion of my infraction V2 to GT. Do you have an email I can reach out?
Castle is my favorite. I use the sidewinder 3 2200kv combo in my rustler. My mini revo has the sidewinder 3 combo with 5700 kv and another with the 4600kv and the last one is my erevo with the momba monster combo. Not sure of the KV without taking it apart. The easy programming is why I only use castle.
Ok. What I need to know is what motor should I run in my typhon for speed runs??? I'm currently running a 2200 kv and its nice. But now I want something for drag runs. Basically something that will rip straight off the line instead of building up to top speed.... i was honestly looking into the TP kill mode with the mamba monster X8s..... or should I stick with the castle??? What do you or anybody else think ?? Plz help
For Typhon you can honestly use the sensored 2200kv and the mamba monster x 8s and it will rip for sure. That electronic pair up geared to 80mph will absolutely be quick off the line. Especially with the sensored motor enabled. If you run tp, yes the 2900kv Killmode is insane. But it draws an insane amount of amperage. I'd play with the 2200kv setup first until you make a switch to tp. Being you already have it. Off the bat regardless get the mmx8s esc, it will be super smooth and controlled power to the motor as well.
I'm waiting on an infraction v2, and I know I'm going to upgrade. So what do you think xlx2 combo or tp big can with xlx2. Bashing and running a little over 100mph.
I want to upgrade my typhon 3s v3 electronics and this was helpful i running 100 amp esc and 3200 kv blx motor stock gearing so im thinking the third or fourth motor you mentioned would be a good fit
Hey sorry I didn't know if you mentioned this I couldn't see it or maybe I missed it how do you know what motor from Castle is like equivalent to a 3650. Or a 2800 motor cuz I'm trying to get you know like a motor mount and I don't want to buy the wrong motor you know
So I wanted to put it in the 14210 model. If there's a possibility or a way that I could do it but even if it's not those models I don't know how people are putting in these larger Motors in like the 14th or 16th scale models
Can you give me a few options in your opinion to a full electronics MOTOR/ESC/SERVO/FAN ACC./I HAVE A FLY SKY FS-GT3B TRANSMITTER AND A (3) CHANNEL RECEIVER. I HAVE THE LATE TEAM ASSOCIATED [1:10 SCALE 4WD RIVAL MT 10] TEAM ASSOCIATED BOUGHT THIS AS IT CARRIED A DIFFERENT NAME [HELION AVENGE 10MT] BELIEVE IT TO BE A "LOSI" BUILD POSSIBLY. CAN U GIVE ME A FEW SET-UPS that WOULD BE USER FRIENDLY AS RELATES TO FINETOONING CONCERNED. BUT I WANT POWER??
Can I use the second to last motor in my 10th scale 4x4 slash??? If so what esc and motor gear do you recommend??? I want the max speed possible... I'm not worried about overheating as I only go in bursts of 5-10 mins... would eventually get a cooling fan for the motor...
So. Buried deep on Castle's site is a blog on speed runs. Their motors CAN handle what's printed on the cans (ie. 100,000 RPM) BUT with extra precautions. The recommended max is for the average enthusiast.
They limit the motors legitimate potential by adding a voltage rating. The 1100kv motor is max 8s, they say. Reality the max rpm is 45k, so that is 10-12s category. That is per example. I do NOT recommend running the motors over recommended voltage because it voids warranty and support. For anything I do on my channel doesn't need to over amplitude the stats of their electronics. Stock voltage does way more than enough for me!
how you building. Im building a frankenstein Kraton 6s for ...well the hell of it. Im going for speed on pavement. Going with a castle 1717 Mamba MonsterX 8s X34t spool, 22t pinion on GRP'S running on 6s for the time being....Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. good choice for power? Is there a better way to go?
Is go with a 1800kv slate edition crawling motor with a mamba x esc combo. It isn't listed in here but if you search for crawling electronics on Castlecreations.com you'll find it!
Awesome explanation, thank you. Q? I have a rustler 4x4 ultimate and just got a carbon fiber chassis for it to upgrade and bunch other stuff. Which motor would be the ultimate fit with for speed? Thank you in advance., also been lookin at hoobywing max8 2200kv
Hi Brandon.. quick question. I have the 1415 2400kv and a Mamba X esc . I plan on putting the system in a proline pro mt 4x4. Will that be a good setup for that truck or should I just put it in my Traxxas hoss? Where would it work better?
Love the breakdown..I know! A couple of years behind the times but..... Have you ever compared TP vs HW vs Castle. And what's your thoughts on the other 2.
Cool comparison on Castle motors, My first Castle ESC and Motor was a Copperhead 10 with a 1415 2,400KV (5mm shaft version) and i plan to put a Castle Mamba Monster X 8s with 1717 1,650KV in both my XO-1 and my future Infraction V2 i also might put it in my future X-Maxx and my Sledge if a 8th scale combo fails.
Which one of these would you recommend most for upgrading a slash 4x4 from a brushed motor ..? I see many options but I don’t know what route to go ..?
I just got the new 1520 1650kv castle first time owner usually buy hw motors but I have to ask why is it so hard to turn shaft vs hw motor shaft is mine broken or that’s how castle motors are
The rating on most motors are actually underrated to have people stay within a performance threshold so it doesn't void the warranty or consistently destroy the rotor
I have a Xmaxx I wanted Great torque but still enough kv to get Speed... I went with a Leopard 58113 V2 1050Kv Max5 @8’s I am trying 33/33 1.5Mod ..my questions is with my set up could you Suggest my Possible best Gear ratio..I don’t need Super speed but I want it to Flip on a Dime if possible..I appreciate any Help in advance..Ty
Subscribed! I am currently working on an arrma vendetta. Based off my research, I am about to pull the trigger on purchasing a Castle MMX8s Esc with a 1717 motor. What I intend to do with the Vendetta is just speedruns. No bashing. In your experience if I run this on 8s and utilize the same gearing I have now, which is a 44T Spur w/slipper eliminated and a 32T pinion. This thing should absolutely fly? Or am I setting myself up for a disaster? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Please!🙏
Go with a 2200kv and an X8s. The 17 series is too thick and won't fit. The 2200 is great to run on 4/6s that won't be too big to fit. Thanks for subscribing!
@@InnovationRC I really thought the 1717 would fit and I got it today and it looks like it is more of an issue of where do I put the esc. Even putting it on top of the receiver box won’t cut it. I have a v2 limitless brand new in the box. I guess I’ll put it in that Crap!
As others have said, great break down. I know some of this already but seeing all motors from the same brand the differences helps bods like me who, until recently only use cheaper motor/esc combos...maybe you can do a similar review with equivalent ESCs, factoring in drag breaks, throttle punches etc and which ones would make the crossover as a great esc for say drifit rc or crawling? Until recently I thought my Hobbywing 1060 esc was great for crawling but at the club where I'm going to start racing, for the entry level category most have said the 1060 would be great for racing with. 😊😎 Saved me buying another esc lol. Great vid mate 👍👌
The Mamba X will surely fit both of your criteria. You can adjust drag brake on it, sensored capable to crawl with. Solid esc to run in anything up to 140 amps as well
A MUST SEE RUclips video series for all those interested or trying to learn this hobby. Clear, concise, to the point. My Kraton EXB thanks you!
Certainly appreciate those words! Very happy to hear you benefitted from this video! Subscribe for more useful tips!
@@InnovationRC already am
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hey bro, castle do now make a 1260kv and 1100kv motors
Amazing that the marketing brains behind Castle can't make info like this readily accessible for those shopping for their products. Great job here!
Great vid Brandon 👊. Stuff like this really helps guys make informed choices about their set-ups.😎💪👊👊
Thanks brother!
That was an excellent explanation of those castle motors. I have a 2028 800kv motor and its a beast of a motor. I really find this video to be very useful and the fact that you did some homework here on these babies. Keep it technical and keep them coming. Thanks
Appreciate that for sure man. I actually used all of these motors so what I stated comes from actually running them 💪👍
Hi Mogreasy how does the 2028 800kv runs today !!!
Castle motors for dummies! Thanks my dude 👍... just what I needed!!
Glad it was informative for ya!
Awesome information, thanks for taking the time to do this. We really appreciate it and how thorough you are too!
Thanks! I learnt lots.
It would be good to have a label behind (or on) each motor, 'cause I can't remember the names of the first 3 by the time you got to the last.
Bad ass videos bro , I just got the castle 8s X cause of your last video now motor for my arrma Infraction
This is great! I have 2 roller and now I know which motor I be running on.. thanks brotha!
Bro you can’t get any better than that great explanation much appreciated ✊💪🤜🤛💯👊 thank you for the knowledge
Thanks man! Eventually there will be a V2 comparison
Innovation RC yes sir I’ll be tuned your welcome 🤜💯🤛✊
Awesome info and details man. I just got a mamba x8s combo and came with the 1650kv motor, went to install on my xmaxx and the motor was bad from factory had to send it back. Can’t wait to get it installed and keep bashing around. Thanks again for the info and all your videos. Stay safe
Brandon awesome information, 👍 I learnt a hell of alot , sorry for missing your vids . this is a FANTASTIC VIDEO 👍🇺🇲😍🇬🇧👍
Thank you so much for the detail and great explanation, I really appreciate your time to help out the less informed of us out there. I will be very excited to try one of these motors, you sure make the case for owning at least one 👍.
I appreciate that man, especially when this video had to be completely redone 3 times as I wasn't liking the previous. So to see this comment shows me it was worth it, wanted the best footage for this video 💪
@@InnovationRC it's so much work filming and editing just one video let alone doing it 3 times. I really respect the commitment you have to helping others, thank you.
I have an infraction stock ..what motor would be best for bashing ..not really into speed runs but I want my truck 🛻 a few miles faster
Great video buddy 👏🏻👏🏻. For my requirements the 1515 22 is my go to motor for most of my rigs. In the LMT its a beast, torque city man, in my V3 Talion it can consisantly do over 100mph. Bang for buck it kicks ass
Brandon, appreciate it very much for your explanation!!
Glad you absorbed some knowledge! Appreciate you watching likewise
Hey Fellas I have a 1717-1650 kv motor installed in a Arrma Felony. The motor gets pretty hot. I'm using the standard 16 tooth pinion. Will I need to go to a smaller pinion to regulate the heat? Maybe install cooling fans? I actually burned one of these motors up and I dont wanna do it again.
Did you figure it out? This is what I'm putting on my felony. Buy if it's doing that mabye not.
@@ant9072 Yes I actually installed the 27 tooth speed gear and 4 game changer fans. Perfect!
@@gsizzlepmg thanks for the help! Just got the same motor for my felony.
Very cool info thanks for sharing I did put a 2028 in a limitless and hit 100 mph but it was working hard for rpm everything you said I feel is dead on point 👍👍💯💯🔥🔥
I saw that! That's a solid achievement. Thanks man
Thanks for all the information. I'm just now starting to upgrade my cars to brushless so very much needed info.
I’ll tell you this is one of those videos that every Large RC channel should be doing. As you know, it is not what they do because going to a skate park and running an RC car up their butt while they scream and yell is what the “people” want. Thanks for giving this your thoughts and time.
Appreciate that a lot man. Most people desire action. Some people already know what I stated in this video. Some don't know and don't want to learn, some do want to learn 😉
A lot of people mainly review one motor, but for now on I will be doing more ultimate motor comparisons for any new motor castle comes out with. I really enjoyed making this video, people find the source of legitimacy substantial making this a solid video. There will be a comparison 2.0 coming soon. Already have plans for it
Amazing vid, great info!!
I have been looking at the 1717 & 2028 for my new speed run build on the Arrma Limitless I'm ordering. I almost went with the 2028 1100kv because of the incredible torque & ability to maintain cool. But I think the 1717 would be more fit, specially if I do decide to go with a dual motor setup. If I don't find it to meet my need, I can always toss it into my Typhon 6S & then go with the 2028 in the future if I find i need more power to break 140mph on the Limitless.
Again, thanks for such a great informational vid w no BS 😎👍👍
Thanks on that! Glad you enjoyed the video! So you can actually be more affordable and still exceed 140-150 mph with the 1717 1650kv. The 1100kv just gets the vehicle up to speed a little quicker and more efficiently. Downside to the 1100kv is that you'll need to do decent modifications to get it to fit.
Dual motor setups are sick! But why use two 1717 motors when the wattage of a single 2028 is MORE than both of them combined? Save space and weight. It looks cool but isn't feasible.
@@InnovationRC Thanks, you're absolutely right. The 2028 will definitely be more cost effective & lighter than twin 1717's. The only reason I even considered the twin motor setup was because it would just be something sweet to add to my collection lol. And with the 2028, like you said, it does need some mods. The motor mount alone runs for about ~$50. I think I will definitely go with the 1717. Maybe buy the Mamba x8 1717 1650kv combo, sell the ESC on eBay & then grab the Mamba xlx2 since I can't seem to find the xlx2 with the 1717 1650kv combo. Cuz if I push that 1717 to 140+ I'm gonna need a cooler running ESC 😄. Castle "claims" the xlx2 runs much cooler than the x8. Anyhow, thanks again bro, Ride'm, Break'm, Fix'm, Repeat! 😎👍
Just curious how that worked out? Burn up or stay cool? I’ve had the 1717 get super hot in the limitless. Was thinking of dropping kv and upping voltage/gearing.
@@donaldfowler7125 I managed to get it up to 122mph so far with the XLX2. Got in a total of 3 runs before the motor got warm, ~165-170F. The ESC barely broke a sweat, didn't get past 123F if my memory serves me correctly.
I just sold the 1717 1650kv motor & purchased the 1721 2400kv motor. I put it in my stretched Typhon 6S first. On 4S, it pushed 99mph barely tapping 100% throttle. 3 runs & it was super cool, 102F after 3rd run. The XLX2 didn't get past 113F. Pulled 328A with only 1.07v ripple. And that's geared 34T pinion with a 29T spur on 4S.
I have a CNHL 6S speedrun pack coming in today. Hoping to get ~120mph with the same setup.
Thank you, I've been wondering what motor for my Slash 4x4. Also what ESC to get. Looking at the 2200kv motor.
Really really great video. Thank you for taking the time to show guys like me who love this hobby and learning. Thank you rc god 👍
Awesome break down!!definitely well needed knowledge 👍👍👊👊🍻
Thank you so much for the info bro, I'm new to the game and this was very helpful! I'm very ignorant when coming to motor and ESC upgrades, I have an ARRMA Mojave and I love it. I was only looking for a mild upgrade for it so I bought a Castle 1512 and a Mamba monster X 25.2 volt ESC.....I hope I did ok, as like I said I'm just looking for a minor to mild upgrade. I have not installed it yet but I'll leave a comment when I do 👍🏼 Thanks again for the great videos! 🤘🏼
Like Always Brandon, awesome info , saving this vid for references, , I got the Mamba Monster X 8s finally waiting on a motor from JJ Customs, stay safe brother
Awesome, you'll love the mmx8s! It's my favorite ESC currently.
@@InnovationRC Hooah brother
i been beating my head for days on this matter and along comes this video thank you for going over this in detail i have a v4 kraton motor down and a traxxas maxx with a bad motor as well i think they both will be getting a 2200kv monster x system now ...subscribed too btw
Can you put that last motor in a traxxas rustler
What setup would u recommend for the xmaxx 8s?
That 800kv is the best Basher motor I’ve ever ran. With the 2028
I have the Max 6 ESC and 1650 kv HW motor in my hobao 7tq brushless conversion....6s rated.......not sure if it'll go 💯 MPH....need advice on gearing... currently it has 21 pinion, 46 spur..... Thnx
Go up to a 34 pinion. I'm sure you'll get close. I know you can get over 100
Okay so what motor should I get for my rustler if I want to go faster and I drive on dirt an street?
I'd go with a 1410 3800kv motor. Run it sensored!
It is possible to know if the castle 1515 motor can last a long time ? Because I already blew up 2 Arrma 6s motors and I couldn’t rebuild it because the stator broke the magnets. Thanks
Get a bigger motor that can handle what you want more of
@@InnovationRC those Castle Motor can avoid that the dirt get inside of the motor? Thanks!
@@josephsrc yessir they are all waterproof!
Really nice video. I’ve learned so much. Thank you 👍
Hey man I need help what would you run in a KRATON 4s out of this line up something about the same as the spectrum just running a little cooler and a bit faster
I would certainly go 1515 2200kv. Larger but not overkill, run it on 3-4s gear it high and it'll run amazing
What would you recommend for a Fireteam, preferably run on 6s? Castle or otherwise. Currently running the stock setup on 6s and would like more oomph for speed bashing without getting so hot. No big jumps, just baby bumps and fast running on rough terrain.
1650kv 1717 motor with a Castle mamba monster x8s esc combo
@@InnovationRC Geared properly and running 6s would this likely get me more top end or just more mid range torque? I think I'd be fine with just more torque, it's all ready got decent speed for a big vehicle.
What speeds could I get with the 1717 In a arrma talion would I get torque and speed or no?
Get both speed and torque with 8s power. Just gear appropriately and you'll be very happy
I have the 1406 7700kv planning to put it on a Traxxss Slash Drag. If do what pinion Tooth should I run my spur gear is at 86T. Thanks
I would start with a 23t pinion gear, if you are doing the 2s street eliminator class, do one pull and if it isn't enough from there go up 2 teeth on the pinion at a time. Should result another 3-4 mph per 2 teeth
Great video thanks for the info much appreciated. I have a Redcat blackout xte Pro was wondering if I could possibly run a 15 15 and that set up?
Great video, thanks for the information. I’m, looking to get an ARRMA EXB and trying to decide between the 800kv & 1100kv motors. Still a little confused but I know more than I did after watching your video, thanks.
I have a out cast 6s and I got the 2200kv combo and the motor over heats I’ve done a whole bunch of re gearing I just need help on this
Is the 1:8 bigger or smaller than 1:10?
1/8 is bigger
Which motor would you recommend for a 1/8th scale e revo ( 6s power) for maximum speed, the 15, 17 or 20 (stock can run up to 70mph)? Also for a 1/10th scale maxx with belted 3.8 inch trencher tires ( max stock speed is 60mph 4s) (4s-6s lipo)? They are both around the 11-15 pound range. If possible I would also like to have good torque and acceleration but speed on both on-road and off-road is mainly what I am looking for since either of the three motors should be able to provide enough power for the cars. The Kv rating as well as the motor and esc is what I need to know.
I'd go 1515 because a 17 series is too thick to fit in the motor mount
I just bought the Arrma Infraction and wanting to do the 8s conversion what is this the best combination over the Hobbywing Ez Run Max 6 V3 with a Poseidon Pro 1800kv 8s? Running 1520 series 1650kv or a higher or lower kv ? Do you think 1650kv is the best kv to go with what options and performance i have choosing a motor Thanks
If your at 1650 or lower you'll be legit for 8s. Just gear accordingly!
Great information for motor selection. Wanted to eventually convert my summit to a badger like the erevo 2.0 what motor esc and gear set up should I run castle of course?
I would look into a mamba monster X 8s with the 2200kv motor. I wouldn't go 1717 because the summit has a plastic gear switching transmission I believe. 1717 will obliterate it haha
So I'm getting a 30-degree North Losi 5T clone and I'm going to be running the castle 800kv but I came across a great deal on a lightly-used sensorless 800kv and I was wondering if you could talk about your experiences advantages disadvantages between the two(sensored vs sensorless) and keep in mind I'm a Basher I'm not going to be using the sensor at all I don't care to so the sensor doesn't matter but what improvements does the newer one have or will I see little to no difference
Awesome and informative video.
Which would be best for the new kraton EXB?
Thanks for the help👊💥👍
The 1717 motor, insanely efficient on 6s. You can also run it on 8s if you want more torque
I’m new to the Rc world and i want my infraction v2 to do over 130 but i dont know what motor esc and gearing to run to accomplish that mph please help!!!
You really just need to change the esc. The stock motor can handle that speed for sure. But if you need an esc I'd just get a combo. 1717 1650kv motor with a mamba monster x 8s esc
@@InnovationRC what about the gears what tooth do i run to accomplish that speed
What would you recommend for a talión btw 1515 and 1717? Thanks
Definitely the 1717!
Thank you brother. I love your channel and I would like to get in touch with you for some advice on the conversion of my infraction V2 to GT. Do you have an email I can reach out?
Castle is my favorite. I use the sidewinder 3 2200kv combo in my rustler. My mini revo has the sidewinder 3 combo with 5700 kv and another with the 4600kv and the last one is my erevo with the momba monster combo. Not sure of the KV without taking it apart. The easy programming is why I only use castle.
Idk if i should go with the 1415 or 1515 in a stampede on 4s for bashing
What do you Think?
I'd go 2200. I'd use mod 1 gears so that you can gear higher than the regular 48 pitched gears
I notice that you can't buy these motors separately? So you need their esc with it right?
Ok. What I need to know is what motor should I run in my typhon for speed runs??? I'm currently running a 2200 kv and its nice. But now I want something for drag runs. Basically something that will rip straight off the line instead of building up to top speed.... i was honestly looking into the TP kill mode with the mamba monster X8s..... or should I stick with the castle??? What do you or anybody else think ?? Plz help
For Typhon you can honestly use the sensored 2200kv and the mamba monster x 8s and it will rip for sure. That electronic pair up geared to 80mph will absolutely be quick off the line. Especially with the sensored motor enabled.
If you run tp, yes the 2900kv Killmode is insane. But it draws an insane amount of amperage. I'd play with the 2200kv setup first until you make a switch to tp. Being you already have it.
Off the bat regardless get the mmx8s esc, it will be super smooth and controlled power to the motor as well.
what up man question 1717 how would you set it up for drag
Probably for 8s I'd go 24/39
What would be a good upgrade for the Axial SCORE for increased speed without sacrificing torque?
I'm waiting on an infraction v2, and I know I'm going to upgrade. So what do you think xlx2 combo or tp big can with xlx2. Bashing and running a little over 100mph.
What was your gearing in the limitless when you hit 100 back to back 5 times?
can you put a 1717 motor in a rustler 2wd
You could if you have the mount to fit it... but if you do your crazy lol
Will #9 fit in a 1/10th scal
Has the Castle Creation motor Hallsensors, so would it run with ebike Controller and 16s?
What about the 1520 1650 kv motor
This video was made a few months prior of the 1520 release date! I wish I had one at this time
I want to upgrade my typhon 3s v3 electronics and this was helpful i running 100 amp esc and 3200 kv blx motor stock gearing so im thinking the third or fourth motor you mentioned would be a good fit
Hey sorry I didn't know if you mentioned this I couldn't see it or maybe I missed it how do you know what motor from Castle is like equivalent to a 3650. Or a 2800 motor cuz I'm trying to get you know like a motor mount and I don't want to buy the wrong motor you know
What car is it going on?
So I wanted to put it in the 14210 model. If there's a possibility or a way that I could do it but even if it's not those models I don't know how people are putting in these larger Motors in like the 14th or 16th scale models
Is it possible to run a tp 2810kv motor on a max5 for speed runs. Mine you that motor is only 6s drag or speedrun
Can you give me a few options in your opinion to a full electronics MOTOR/ESC/SERVO/FAN ACC./I HAVE A FLY SKY FS-GT3B TRANSMITTER AND A (3) CHANNEL RECEIVER. I HAVE THE LATE TEAM ASSOCIATED [1:10 SCALE 4WD RIVAL MT 10]
TEAM ASSOCIATED BOUGHT THIS AS IT CARRIED A DIFFERENT NAME [HELION AVENGE 10MT] BELIEVE IT TO BE A "LOSI" BUILD POSSIBLY. CAN U GIVE ME A FEW SET-UPS that WOULD BE USER FRIENDLY AS RELATES TO FINETOONING CONCERNED. BUT I WANT POWER??
Great vid bro. Thanks for the content!!
Will the 1717 fit in my Maxx? I was planning on putting that in with the mamba x esc
Can I use the second to last motor in my 10th scale 4x4 slash??? If so what esc and motor gear do you recommend??? I want the max speed possible... I'm not worried about overheating as I only go in bursts of 5-10 mins... would eventually get a cooling fan for the motor...
So which series is the best bashing motor for a 1/10 scale
To bash? I'd go with a 14 series lower kv. Probably 1412 3200! Not shown in this video but it's newer
I got a traxxas maxx and I was think the 1512 or the 1515 with the mamba x esc what motor do u think
Great motors either way. I think if you stuff a 1515 2200kv you'll be very happy on 4s geared moderately
So. Buried deep on Castle's site is a blog on speed runs. Their motors CAN handle what's printed on the cans (ie. 100,000 RPM) BUT with extra precautions. The recommended max is for the average enthusiast.
They limit the motors legitimate potential by adding a voltage rating. The 1100kv motor is max 8s, they say. Reality the max rpm is 45k, so that is 10-12s category. That is per example. I do NOT recommend running the motors over recommended voltage because it voids warranty and support. For anything I do on my channel doesn't need to over amplitude the stats of their electronics. Stock voltage does way more than enough for me!
how you building. Im building a frankenstein Kraton 6s for ...well the hell of it. Im going for speed on pavement. Going with a castle 1717 Mamba MonsterX 8s X34t spool, 22t pinion on GRP'S running on 6s for the time being....Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. good choice for power? Is there a better way to go?
Which one will be good for drag racing with the drag slash
Thank you! Looking for up grade on my XMaXX 8 s! And video helped a lot!
1515 in felony what pinion do you think is Great
19t I wouldn't want to gear too high being the 1515 is somewhat small for a felony
Ok thanks and for the original spectrum 2050 😊😊
@@knastusse if you go to original motor go up to 20-21t.
What would happen if you put the 1415 series in a 1/16
What do you think will push the castle 1650 better? The spektrum 150amp 6s esc or the mamba monster x 120amp 6s esc?
Which motor would be good for crawling
Is go with a 1800kv slate edition crawling motor with a mamba x esc combo. It isn't listed in here but if you search for crawling electronics on Castlecreations.com you'll find it!
@@InnovationRC thank you man
Awesome explanation, thank you. Q? I have a rustler 4x4 ultimate and just got a carbon fiber chassis for it to upgrade and bunch other stuff. Which motor would be the ultimate fit with for speed? Thank you in advance., also been lookin at hoobywing max8 2200kv
I'd probably look into that 2200kv on 6s. Or, get a 1512 2650kv and run 4-5s to keep it light
Great video. Very informative
Thanks Anthony!
Hi Brandon.. quick question. I have the 1415 2400kv and a Mamba X esc . I plan on putting the system in a proline pro mt 4x4. Will that be a good setup for that truck or should I just put it in my Traxxas hoss? Where would it work better?
What's up, yes you can. I'd run a heatsink on it to keep temps lower though.
Love the breakdown..I know! A couple of years behind the times but..... Have you ever compared TP vs HW vs Castle. And what's your thoughts on the other 2.
What do you think about the 1717 in a 8th scale drag application?
I think you'll have all the torque you need for 132 feet. Run it on 8s in gear reduction? 29/39. Wicked torque and rpm
Thanks bro I appreciate it💯
Cool comparison on Castle motors, My first Castle ESC and Motor was a Copperhead 10 with a 1415 2,400KV (5mm shaft version) and i plan to put a Castle Mamba Monster X 8s with 1717 1,650KV in both my XO-1 and my future Infraction V2 i also might put it in my future X-Maxx and my Sledge if a 8th scale combo fails.
What motor in your personal opinion would you choose for a Kraton 6s EXB, the 2200kv or the 1650kv motor? I can't decide between the 2.
1650. Bigger can, more torque. Less heat issues than 2200. Run it on 6s
Which motor would you use in a 8th scale drag setup?
I'd say go 8s on the 1717 and gear in reduction. Insane rpm and torque
Which one of these would you recommend most for upgrading a slash 4x4 from a brushed motor ..? I see many options but I don’t know what route to go ..?
Will the 1650 be better than the 1700 Tp power 🤔
That depends. Better always has a catch 😉
Great Video!
This would also be nice with tp motor! And VOR which kind of stuff you recommend castle and tp motors!
The future will have many more of these videos!
Nice
What happened to the 11kv
This video launched before the 1100kv was released to the public
Would the 1415 series 2400 kv with the 5mm shaft fit in a losi Baja rey
Yes it certainly should
It should. Not the super 1/6 version though way too small
I just bought the 2200kv do you think it will run good in my converted traxxas tmaxx and if so how fast do you think it will go?
Absolutely it'd do amazing. I would run that motor on 4s. Can get a good 45-50 mph in the converted tmaxx back to back with it
@@InnovationRC yeah I baught just a 3s but the only problem I’m having now is finding a motor mount
@@chasehedden8961 I believe they have online nitro to electric conversions
Which one of these motors would make my trx4 with stock gearing run 50ish mph? And fit of course
I just got the new 1520 1650kv castle first time owner usually buy hw motors but I have to ask why is it so hard to turn shaft vs hw motor shaft is mine broken or that’s how castle motors are
Great video! my friend use 1512 1800kv with 6s lipo on kraton 6s and has no issues but manual says that its 3-4s capable. how can it take 6s?
The rating on most motors are actually underrated to have people stay within a performance threshold so it doesn't void the warranty or consistently destroy the rotor
I have a Xmaxx I wanted Great torque but still enough kv to get Speed... I went with a Leopard 58113 V2 1050Kv Max5 @8’s I am trying 33/33 1.5Mod ..my questions is with my set up could you Suggest my Possible best Gear ratio..I don’t need Super speed but I want it to Flip on a Dime if possible..I appreciate any Help in advance..Ty
why are some motors only up to 4s oder 6s out there? more Voltage on bigger turns are more heat, isnt it? not only more power.
Subscribed! I am currently working on an arrma vendetta. Based off my research, I am about to pull the trigger on purchasing a Castle MMX8s Esc with a 1717 motor. What I intend to do with the Vendetta is just speedruns. No bashing. In your experience if I run this on 8s and utilize the same gearing I have now, which is a 44T Spur w/slipper eliminated and a 32T pinion. This thing should absolutely fly? Or am I setting myself up for a disaster? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Please!🙏
Go with a 2200kv and an X8s. The 17 series is too thick and won't fit. The 2200 is great to run on 4/6s that won't be too big to fit. Thanks for subscribing!
@@InnovationRC I really thought the 1717 would fit and I got it today and it looks like it is more of an issue of where do I put the esc. Even putting it on top of the receiver box won’t cut it. I have a v2 limitless brand new in the box. I guess I’ll put it in that Crap!
I love the way you rate it
As others have said, great break down. I know some of this already but seeing all motors from the same brand the differences helps bods like me who, until recently only use cheaper motor/esc combos...maybe you can do a similar review with equivalent ESCs, factoring in drag breaks, throttle punches etc and which ones would make the crossover as a great esc for say drifit rc or crawling? Until recently I thought my Hobbywing 1060 esc was great for crawling but at the club where I'm going to start racing, for the entry level category most have said the 1060 would be great for racing with. 😊😎 Saved me buying another esc lol.
Great vid mate 👍👌
The Mamba X will surely fit both of your criteria. You can adjust drag brake on it, sensored capable to crawl with. Solid esc to run in anything up to 140 amps as well
@@InnovationRC Thanks 🙏👍😎