This Escape is Now Rear-Engined (and Front-Engined) | 900HP Electric Escape Project
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You are the only RUclips creator where I watch the entire sponsor segment. I actually look forward to them!
I LOVE FACTOR! they ARE really good! IDK how they do it, but even their fish meals microwave well.
Great project!! Looking forward to next stop hope you get the budget for it all!
You and 2StrokeStuffing make making mistakes while fabricating fun and enjoyable.
Yay A whole 28 minutes of Aging Wheels!!
"Join me as I struggle..."
Oh, Robert- that is the mantra of your channel, and why we love watching. Your content is always relatable to so many of us! So excited to see where this Escape goes once you get the CV shafts in!
It's always nice to see I'm not the only one who runs into issues with DIY projects.
@@silasmayes7954 I completely agree, and it is definitely why I love his channel(s). Though, I would bet that lots of other channels have similar issues while building/making things and they just edit them out so that it always looks like they are effortlessly successful.
He needs that on a shirt lol
My favorite part is watching him hack up a ford lol
Has he made a struggle bus joke yet? If not, I think he should..
My favorite parts of this channel are no music while he works. The editing is amazing and he isn't afraid to show mistakes on camera.
now you have seen it all including a 900hp ford escape🤣
@notfiveo let him do it his way it's the only way for him to learn after all no one has ever made a 900 hp electric ford escape before who knows what will work and what won't🤣🤣🤣
Hide the motor with a fake hitch
Oh my God what is he going to do with the bus this guy's going to probably slap a big-ass generator in the back of the bus probably have like way more efficiency than any other diesel on the road along with insane power
@@dustinswatsons9150 yeah that sounds about right except he'll melt the motors cause teslas with those motors thermal throttle with the liquid cooling system cooling the motors pushing a small tesla car not a big honking school bus that has a ton more drag that is going to stress those air cooled motors way more then a tesla would its the one issue I see with testing with that old ford
I love that things like these are possible, and even more so that someone is doing them.
How did you get access to the video so early?
@@ulexx6574 I wanna know the same it came out an HR ago for me
@@ulexx6574 probably a patron.
This project is based on an idea that is so dumb that other than as a joke, nobody would ever try.
Keep in mind the reason he is doing this is to gain experience to do it with a bus. Not only is the bus far too heavy, it has the aerodynamics of a piece of plywood facing the wind.
Worse still, he's not going to be driving it 20 miles a day at low speed picking up kids within a limited circle, but taking it on multi-state highway speed road trips carrying vehicles. This bus is going weigh a lot. Between the weight and the poor aerodynamics, this thing is going to need A LOT of batteries.
The only good thing is, I believe, he is never going to finish the bus. The bus will be scrapped before it will be completed. He has had the bus for years and has done next to nothing on it. Next month it will be 4 years since he introduced the bus on the channel. (Mar 21, 2019). He has done almost nothing on the bus since.
His handling of the project has been terrible. He should stop taking on more projects until the bus is complete as a diesel bus. Only after all the details are worked out (assuming he finishes the bus at all) should he be considering an EV swap.
@@tarstarkusz How dare he do something he wants to do
As an Escape fan, im proud to see one being put into the EV era like I dreamed of. The Escape community Im in is rooting for you, Ill be sharing this next video with em
Imagine him suddenly getting knee deep in requests for EV conversions. Could easily pay for the rest of the project and the bus refurbishing.
@@TheWinjin yeah because he can totally work on like 5 major projects at once
Can you explain how being an Escape fan is even a possibility?
Bahahaha it's hilarious that people actually like to put themselves out there for being avid shit car fans. Why would anybody be a fan of such a generic.. trash car that people litreally only buy because of the brand it sits behind... in saying that Ford is about as american as an Aussie Outback steakhouse is in america. you'll find it's more european then american these days considering how ford mostly produce cars to markets like England, Germany, France ect ect. Even in those countries... they don't have Avid fans like they do in the U.S
@@RUclipsHandlesAreStupid There was a time when the pre-2013 Escapes were sold with 4WD, manual transmission and considerable reliable engines with decent performance and gas mileage, and had quite an interesting ground clearance and offroad capabilities, contrary to the things 2013+ Escapes might be able to do, particularly with the 2017+ EcoBoost engines... I used to be an Escape fan until I decided to buy a brand new 2018 with EcoBoost... man, what a mistake that was... it's been 6 months since I took it to the dealer with the infamous coolant leak only to find out that the actual piston head cracked, and even with the replacement engine, the thing just doesn't stop having issues. I'm selling it as I found a cheap 2001 Mercury Grand Marquis with low mileage just under $2k USD, and the thing is almost mint condition. They are selling it because gas prices, but the economy you can get from those Panther-based cars can easily match and outperform that of a current gen 2.0 4-banger turbocharged gasoline engine.
Engineer: Measure twice, cut once.
Robert: Measure many times, cut even more often, then start over.
Mechanic: The first one would have worked if he just hit it with a hammer.
I can identify with Robert. Cut twice and still too short.
3D printing: Does it fit? Nope. _prints another._ Does it fit? Nope. _prints another._ Does it fit? Nope. _prints another._
(Repeat until you run out of filament) 😅
I'm a mechanical engineer, I can assure you, Robert's method is what happens to all of us anyway lol.
I identify with this comment
As I was watching the beginning of the vid I was wondering if anyone had done a torque-multiplier comparison with gear/final-drive ratios - and BOOM, there you give it to us. Awesome!
I’m not sure if I should feel bad to introducing you to the folks who are helping motivate this, or happy, because the world is getting a vehicle it didn’t know that it needed… a 900hp electric Escape… I mean Evcape
Put it on a Cadillac please
Well, with 900 horsepower it will be easy to escape with it.
He needs to reinforce the rear strut mounts or hes going to literally die
trully a questionable choice
You done well Jared ☺️
Love that you show when things go wrong or if you have to redo them. Most youtubers dont. You keep the genuinity in the videos that you make
your editing style is so satisfying! the rapid cuts when welding and machining parts are a treat
Yesss legit his editing is a chunk of why i watch him and why his content is unmatched imo
It contributes to the general awesomeness of the channel.
21:07 I've always said that mechanics and software developers share skills. This right here is an example of something that you can say about work as a mechanic that you can also say as a developer.
I love how you always seem to know just how much of the process we need to see. You really keep it flowing with the great editing!
man he's strong to lift that drive unit like it's a dinner plate🤣
A hidden lesson of this video…Having the right tools makes all the difference…Nice job.
Absolutely loved this, no big gimmick nonsense, no yelling at the camera, just calm, chill entertainment with some education along the way. Great work mate! Keep doing what your doing, big thumbs up.
try Factor and find out if it is great or tastes like rubber
@@raven4k998 I get ready meals (that's what we call them in Britain) from my local supermarket with great taste and texture to the point where it's hard to find a bad one unless you go to a pokey little corner shop. With that experience, it's easy to believe Factor is good too.
Yo Aging Wheels, thank you. genuinely thank you for all your hard work in making these videos and bringing a smile to mine and everyone's face when you upload. I struggle on a day to day to smile and truly feel happy and I don't know how you do it, but your channel brings me genuine childlike happiness every time you upload. The silly antics, the effort you put into your Project cars, the tedious engineering that goes into everything you do makes me appreciate you so much more. I wish I had more to give you as you are the only channel on RUclips that feels genuine anymore.
I've come across one other lifestyle DIYer channel that's pretty good. I'll see if I can find a link.
I hope you are confident the final drive gear on the bus axle will handle the torque. Working for bus companies for 15 yrs, that’s a common issue for almost all electric and trolley buses… and the replacement is not cheap. You can buy yourself some lifetime if you limit the peak secondary acceleration.
Knowing nothing about the rear end other than the gear ratio, I'm neither worried nor confident. It's an unknown!
@@agingwheels well, keep the diff oil fresh and the secondary acceleration low (both accel and decel), and hope for the best ;)
Knowing nothing I'd imagine engine braking should be a larger force than acceleration. Although again I don't even know if busses can do that.
@@agingwheels5 ton axles, talk to heavy D I'm sure he'd be happy to send you one lol
That's no joke. I've seen those axle shafts snap from someone stuck, dumping the clutch, even with anemic gas engines.
Praise God!! I found an old school style youtube channel!! No BS, non pretentious
That was a LOT of work squeezed into one video, it was really fun to watch. I never thought I'd be so excited about an Escape build, but this might be one of my favorite series right now. Keep em coming!
Man, your workflow has improved SO much since your earlier videos! Super happy you're taking on these larger projects.
THANK YOU FOR GOING TO THE TROUBLE OF DOCUMENTING YOUR PROCESS IN SUCH DETAIL! Seriously 10/10 demonstration, deeply valuable info. You're a treasure to engineers everywhere
you think the ford escapes frame can handle that much power without twisting?
Saw your channel for the first time today. Love your style, sense of humor, and the fact that you show all the "warts" on your projects.
As a German I am both amazed and terrified by the thought that you can weld together your own EV and have it be street legal.
Haha xD
Exactly my thoughts watching this. Imagine trying to get that through the TÜV xD
What kind of rules are there in Germany?
@@Panin2001oca all of them
@@Lokomowal Check your glasses mate, I'm not Scholz
@@Panin2001oca all of them
I subscribed at failure #2.
Do I accurately recall seeing you build some wood shop videos?
You have a knack for editing out ALL of the slow, boring video, down to the split-second. Bravo!
I was thinking "you need a Tormach!" like a lot of other RUclipsrs got (probably huge discount/free, whatever), but then I realised I actually want to see the completion of the project, not just a lot of videos playing with a huge toy :D
Although the bus (and the whole project) is a huge toy basically, so...
I already blew several weeks playing with the Arcdroid. I can only imagine how much time I'd blow with a whole Tormach whatever. Although I'm basically out of space at this point, so I don't know where I'd even put something like that
@@agingwheels what I learned is there are always more space. Your bus dungeon is pretty high, it can support a second floor for stuff... :D
@@agingwheels Sounds like you need one of those prefab building manufacturers to sponsor you!
@@agingwheels Out of space! You've a massive workshop. Try building cars in the street outside a terraced house.
@@nickwheeler8231 Wait, you have room on your street to work on cars? Luxury!!! :P
i love how you back this up with mathematical facts!
This is really impressive. Robert has come a long way, I'd never even have thought of a project this ambitious.
I'm so glad that I was able to watch thru a 28-minute long video, fully paying attention. Not like other youtubers who would have made from this video, a 10 episode 10min long mini series, plus the future ones...
This project can’t happen fast enough! I literally am holding back from buying an RV because I want electric drivetrain option. Looking forward to where this goes!
I also want an electric drive RV, but you already knew that
wait yeah an RV would be perfect for electric, you’re driving to places that already have electric charging points, plus you’ll have much more space for batteries, and won’t be going as fast
@@agingwheels so this is practice for what you're going to do with the bus?
@@bradhaines3142 He mentions that in the first video.
Which you've definitely watched.
@@Mr-Trox i did but a while ago, i dont remember youtube things
For me tinkering and doing things that nobody else has done is the spice of life. Hope it all works as intended, nice job!
That sticky gooey stuff is called a thermal interface material (tim). It;s used to dissipate heat between the transistors(don't ask weather they're fets, bjts or any other kind) so that one doesn't go all the way up to 200 degrees while the others are chilling at around 50.
Putting another drive axle in the rear of the bus driving both with separate motors, would get you 4 wheel drive (actually 8 wheel), and then use the diesel engine coupled with a generator, would make the bus awesome for long distances. Love your channel, and content.
First of all, whenever you come out with episodes of a series, you put in way more content than most other people would! You probably could have cut this into 2 episodes, but thank you for not doing so! Second of all, I absolute LOVE the idea of fundraising your products with little tiny personal projects! Being a broke college student, I’m not going to buy one, but I absolutely love that!
Your videos are brilliant, fun, entertaining, informative, engaging and honest!!
So many people in this genre are pretentious, condescending, secretive and arrogant. Thank you for your integrity! It really helps to see your mistakes too, where most people will hide their mistakes, you show how you learned and grew from the challenges! Keep up the great work!! 👏🏼👊🏼☺️
Hey Robert, just wanted to say thanks for posting your "failed attempts" on the mounts. You may see them as "failures", but to us it shows us you're human, you make minor mistakes. But more importantly, you're LEARNING, and teaching us along the way. I appreciate you not just saying "oh yeah, everything went perfect the first time". Instead, you showed us what went wrong, and how to fix/prevent it in the future. Great tip about adding a little spacer/washer to account for the warping of the metal! Keep up the great work :)
oh no he voided the warranty🤣
A flavour of Project Binky about it, which I love....!! with alternative cardboard templates.... And after 3 days, all the plaques are sold out.... Well done.
What a gem to have stumbled upon! Love your irreverent, self deprecating humor as much as your ability to create! Can’t wait for the next installment. Thanks!
Do yourself a favor and check out his back catalog, it’s equally excellent. As is his second channel, Under Dunn (focusing mostly on woodworking)
Just ordered the last mostly bondo piece! So glad I got to it in time. Keep up the good work, your killing it.
The two things I love most about this channel is the 'damn the torpedoes!' approach and the problem solving. Thanks Robert.
12:25 this is why I love you, you always seem to have an immense amount of willpower to do a good job with whatever you’re working on. Bravo
Dying to see how this turns out! Major benchmark in the world of electric hot-rodding, you're about to help set an example for the future here!
Your videos are really warming me up to the idea of electric cars. Until now I percieved them as locked down, app connected toys for soulless city snobs. The whole DIY thing is very important to me when it comes to cars and you are demonstating that its possible for a regular hobbyist.
I may be overly paranoid, but anytime you wonder "should I make this stronger", my answer is YES. Great video!
I love your attitude while making mistakes. Working on cars can be so frustrating and you manage to make humor of it.
Watching you cut out the trunk floor is giving me serious Wheego vibes. Love it.
Thank you for explaining your choice of electric over diesel for the bus it makes a lot of sense when you put it like that!
Of all the automotive YT channels i follow, this is the most interesting hands down. I think the escape project is aweseome! And i love that you show so much fabrication and don´t hesitate showing mishaps which adds to the excitement.
What amazes me is the amount of tools and equipment you have. I'll bet there are many auto shops that have as much equipment you have. I'm an old(81) shade tree mechanic, and I don't even know what most of them do. Of course, cars were much simpler back then. We could generally figure out some way to jury rig something to work, which I guess you are doing on more complicated problems. Good luck on finishing the Ford, so you can work on the "real" project, the BUS!
I'm chuckling at the Hello Fresh recipe cards in the background of the Factor spiel. Well at least they're the same parent company. 😅
I figured nobody would notice that. Good spot!
I wrote a comment, but removed it as I felt uncertain about it. Now it seems justified: "I've given up long ago on stuff like this being a coincidence in his videos"
@@re4zoon Although this example was actually a coincidence. I noticed it ahead of time, but didn't actively place the recipe cards there.
The modified support bracket at 13:00 is undersized for that weight. It's OK in static loading, but will probably buckle after some good bumps. The diagonals will tear at the center weld points because of the trimming to clear the bolt. If you flip the support upside down and compare it to a typical roof truss for a house, you'll know to add three angles to each side in a zig zag pattern. Add a third frame bolt over the gearbox support point, because only 1 frame bolt on each side is probably not enough. You could bridge the tire well gap with a 4" channel and center bolt to that. LOL I have that exact Sport model 02 Ford Escape. Black, roof rack, tail mini hitch, automatic version. I retired it at 320k miles a few years ago. It's a good car!
Came here to say something along these lines. Not enough triangulation to prevent bending under enough load and twisting. Particularly concerned in that spot where Robert cut off the angled sections of the brackets. Needs a lot more reinforcement to hold up.
Also not convinced those thin cylindrical standoffs will spread the load - wouldn't be surprised if they punch into the frame. Extending the bracket to the second hitch mounts in front will give it a fighting chance.
Really enjoying following this build. One suggestion, for the Escape unibody to handle all that torque you might want to think about adding some square tubing to brace the unibody. Maybe your battery boxes will have add some structure?
I just discovered this channel and your on camera presence is fantastic. Just the right balance of facts and humor.
Man, if I wasn’t currently in the process of moving across the country, I’d love to get one of the Peesadabus part 2 to put next to the Peesadabus og
You've come a long way from your earliest videos. This is a truly impressive project
I love this project 😀 Interested how much traction you have with a 900hp ford escape too 🤣
The front axle will be doing rather little. Traction Control will be my friend
@Aging Wheels Where would the traction control IO come from? Do you buy boards from some company for something like that?
Mainly asking because I wanna do the irresponsible thing one day and write my own vehicle control management software one day. I made my own (combat) tank traction control and stability code in a video game I played where everything was physically simulated. If I did it in real life I'd probably do it on like a go-kart or something so I don't actually die when I command a bonkers input from my undertested "I'm a professional how hard could it be" code.
I'm imaginging the Escudo Pikes Peak edition from Gran Turismo 2 here. Just all four tyres pouring smoke.
@@monkatraz i guess it taps into some sensors for the wheel speeds, abs sensors or something.
fancier needs gyros and accelerometers to have a better model of what the car is actually doing, but you can just detect when a wheel slips with abs wheelspeed sensors with a not so fancy algorithm. you can also make a tcs then that cant' climb a slightly icy hill, but mostly working one isn't that complex in principle and companies did sell mostly working ones.
I often forget that this is a channel with less than 300k subscribers. The content is so good and the editing is very nice. The bud plates being sold out the day the video came out on RUclips makes it feel like a channel with 10 million subs where you have to race to be first to watch in case there’s a limited giveaway.
I really, really, really enjoy the thought of Rich Rebuilds being contacted for advice (I know you don't actually necessarily need the assistance with these sorts of projects, I just imagine the pair of you collaborating would either be amazing, or horrific.)
Horrifically amazing. 👍
Nice video now I gotta watch the previous ones
This is freaking AMAZING. Thank you for making this - AND the video too!
محتواك عجبني جداً لان ما تحتاج اغنيه تحذب او مؤثرات صوتيه او حتى مونتاج كبير وهذا يدل ان محتواك مُشبع بالمتعه شكراً لك على هذا المحتوى
Incredible. Thanks for all the massive editing. You’re a beast.
a pleasure to watch, never seen a hand held band saw before........interesting
You are amazing the content you have been putting out is amazing and creative and I'm thinking of either building my own EV car or turning my late grandpa's old Landcruiser into a hybrid car your content is very much helping thank you Rob
Great vid. Fast moving, succinct narration without bullshit waffle. Well done!
Bro. You’re headed to a million subs, no question. Great work.
Now that the bus is no longer the end product of this project, what is the future of the electric Escape?
Yeah I wanna know too
Cool project, I can’t wait to see this thing fly! Good test bed for the bus drivetrain too.
As someone who has an unhealthy love for my 01 escape, you are taking on one of my dream builds. Good luck! Looks great so far
Keep the diesel, find a generator to hook it to. If you haven't already, look into Edison motors. If you talked to those guys, I'm pretty sure they'd be more than willing to help you out with some ideas or leads on parts to make a "range extender" out of the c7
Plus having an e-axle instead of two drive units to a differential can cause twisted drive shafts, as the edison guys found out with carl
i like this modification, that was calming, nice to watch! keep up the good work on the videos!!
Regarding the strength of the front motor mount bracket that passes under the steering: You've made the bracket strong, at least it looks strong, but what about the strength of the car frame where the bracket is attached? It has to resist not just the up-down load but the torsional load put on it by the bracket. Perhaps you need additional bracing to stop the car frame bending.
i get jelly when i see videos like this. all those tools and the skill set to go with them. respect.
I am beyond excited for this build. Im glad that I will be here from the start
This was a great idea for a build, and getting to go along with you when we can tell how excited you are about the project makes it that much better. Thanks for all the content Robert!
I really like your process, prototyping and learning, before tackling the big bus project.
as a welder the rear mount of the front motor might give you trouble, these ford escapes have notoriously thin sheet metal. even though you appear to be using 3/16 or 1/4 but that doesn't change the strength of what it's welded to, my recommendation would be to have a u shaped scab plate follow the contour of the subframe to spread the load, this wouldn't need to be continuously welded because that would induce warping and a stitch would be more beneficial. I believe this would better spread load to existing structures, as for the rear the ends of the angle iron should be gusseted away from your mounting hardware 1/8" mild steel will absolutely twist like taffy under a hard launch. one other thing is to make sure that even though you want penetration and a good size weld, you absolutely do not need to throw a 1/4 in of weld on 1/8 in hrpo you will have a bad time, the key is to understand how much heat you are putting into your weldment and for how long. The key is not to overweld, more weld more better is not what works. good luck on the escape/bus
I know absolutely nothing about cars and this is absolutely amazing
I stumbled on this channel by accident and I'm hooked. Your delivery is perfect and your appreciation for crappy cars feels way more relatable than guys trying to sell us Range Rovers.
loving the random saw blade chilling on the kitchen counter
A friend of mine made a comment about how nobody is posting their failures on the internet. I am going to show him your channel. No offense intended. You are both entertaining and comedic and you post your fails. Kudos sir, and cheers from the frozen wastes of Canada. ~ulrich
Measure once, cut once...twice....thrice....
I've gone back to re-watch this playlist. I'd completely forgotten this project was a side project of the bus build.
I love how you’re doing this to an escape
This is one of the very few shows that I can watch from start to finish paying attention. You keep it very entertaining in the moments where other creators would struggle to do that. Just wanted to tell you're doing an exceptional job. 👌
Just bought a piece of the famous bus. I'm excited to support you my dude, yer a damn cool guy and i love watching your videos! Very down to earth and great sense of humor.
Cool video
Reminds me of installing large engines in small cars in the eighties in Africa. Except we only had a arc welder, manual hacksaw, grinder, small cutting torch and hand drill.
Good times
Some are still running 😎
This project excites me. The Maverick XLT (because UK) is the car I have the fondest memories of my parents driving.
This is brilliant. It looks great. Nothing wrong with multiple prototypes when you are doing something so radical.
Impressive that the plaques are all sold out already! Hope it helps to fund those batteries; very much looking forward to future updates!
not sure how youtube decided to recommend this video, but super glad it did. Great video, great idea. I'm super excited to watch your other videos and see how the project comes out.
probably old new to everyone but, That is the coolest and cleanest design for an oil pump I've ever seen, Every one I've ever seen had more distance between the gears returning to mesh and they had a Cresent moon piece in between them to keep pressure on the oil so it'd pump
yeah, after 1 google search I found out I'm the Jackass
So cool to see you using your new tools. It seems so much more managable with the plasma cutter.
You're a real craftsman and an entertaining one at that! Great to see that the bus plaques are sold out, you deserve this. Amazing projects.
Question/Statement: I noticed on the back mount that you remade a few times, that it bolted to the old trailer hitch. One thing I also noticed is that you only used 1 set of bolt holes. Why not use all 4 bolt holes of the trailer hitch to get it more strength? On the front drive unit, I think you need to add a few more braces, including the main drive brace.
Salamat ng marami (Tagalog) means MANYs thanks. From PHIL with HEARTS & HAPPINESS.
A good thing to note about toque figures, at least in electricity terms, is that torque*speed=power. From this, you can calculate a bunch of things!
This channel has been evolving unbelievably amazing over the years. Keep doing what you love and keep on doing it in your own time, because you’re good at it. Be kind to yourself, we have the patience to wait - your well-being is more important than quantity of videos. Cheers!
Finally got it fitted and it only took 3 tries, hell yea own those mistakes lol 😂
Keep up the energy fam, I’ll definitely want to see the bus be electric ⚡️ especially after those numbers 😮
EVs have never really interested me but I am thoroughly enjoying this project series. Keep up the great work!
I'm so glad to have found your channel! The pacing and delivery is on point!
This channel is criminally under-subscribed.
Great work chap, loving it!
Love the arc droid, i've been watching them since they announced their idea.