2022 Yamaha YZF-R7 First Ride
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2021
- We get it. You’re upset. How could Yamaha possibly perform something as sacrilegious as this? The name YZF-R7 belongs to one of the most iconic motorcycles in Yamaha’s history. A 750cc screaming inline-Four that was basically purpose-built for racing, with looks that have stood the test of time, the original R7 is a legend. To put it on this - on this - is simply unforgivable.
Are we right? Does the description above apply to you? We have news for you: You’re probably not Yamaha’s target audience with the new, 2022 YZF-R7. In fact, the new R7’s target audience were literally babies when Noriyuki Haga was sliding the old R7 all over the world chasing a World Superbike title. That was 20 years ago, people. It’s time to move on. If it weren’t for all the backlash about the name, today’s crop of up-and-coming sportbike riders probably wouldn’t have even known about the original R7.
Easily the most controversial new model of 2021, the certain uproar over calling it R7 certainly wasn’t lost on the folks from Yamaha when it came time to pick a name. But there’s a method to this madness, and to understand the thought process behind the name is to understand the sportbike world since July of 2008. Watch the video and allow MO's road test editor and resident fast guy Troy Siahaan to explain.
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I really think this R7 was a genius decision from Yamaha. If you're into sport bikes and want to take your bike to a track day you'd either have to take an r3 or an r6. Thats a very big leap and like he stated in the video alot of people wont even use the r6 where its meant to be used in those high rpms. Im hoping this bike is a stepping stone for alot of people. I look forward to picking one up some day.
300cc superbikes are pointless…
Yamaha please bring a R9 with the look of the R6. Thank you very much!
R6 Is A living legendary Bike❣️🤞
I don't think they'll do that as it might cannabalise the R6 sales
@@FACTOTUM_55 R6 has gone to the disco my friend. No sales to cannibalize.
Agreed, a twin will never appeal to ex-four cylinder riders...
@@lorquet21 an r9 would
Everyone is now waiting for the R9, having the MT09 as a basis with its alloy frame and better suspension is a perfect platform to build a sport bike from.
Exactly my thoughts!
Cbr900rr killer I hope
Just buy an r1
@@bfarm44 just sold my r1 for a 2022 r7.
I'll let you know if I was a good decision
It's gonna be priced too close to the R1 to justify a purchase, at best, it'll be a replacement for the R6, but used R6s are already floating on the market and make the same horsepower.
This is one of the bikes that lots of riders have been asking for through the years, when you read the comments on many (FZ)MT-07 videos, and other vids where viewers comment about how they love the middleweight supersport package but don't want an i4 with over 100-hp.
With that price, they are going to sell lots of R7's.
Agreed. This thing will be perfect for mountain carving and in the hands of good riders will still dust the whining kids in here on their 600s on a track day.
That part!
Agreed! I track my 2019 KTM 390 duke & its a blast to out pace bikes with a lot more HP! The R7 looks like simple fun, just might add it to my garage.
@@richardm7026 Wait for the RC750 from CFmoto/KTM partnership.
@@remigusker6024 doubt it kid, and remember the r6 is a smaller displacement. So it has the handicap. Cylinder count don't matter...
Looks like a fun back to basics package and before seeing the video I was thinking they were going to use the Tripple. I am sure with some mods and tuning the bike would be a blast whilst still being more affordable.
Well done Yamaha.
Best YT review of the R7... imo.
Much more informal video than all the rest.
I am going to own this bike.
I’m glad you mentioned the quickshifter is not compatible with gp shift. Thanks
It's about time...I think this is a beautiful bike that is practical both for the street and track. More than enough bike for the majority of riders out there. I think Yamaha finally nailed it. It will interesting to see if they do this for the MT09!
I really love this R7. Perfect for me as a beginner rider. Not too much power, affordable, looks great. I was looking for a bike for street rides and that can be used on track occasionally. This is perfect for me.
Yup, plus, it will take YEARS to truly master and "outgrow" this bike, if you ever really can, anyways. Perfect do it all bike. Definitely getting one.
@Diz Zkl i don't get your point. pls explain.
@@winner1338 in other parts of the world you wouldn’t be able to start on such a bike. It’d have to be something like a 125cc first
@@m_moves I'm from Europe and i did start on 1000cc bike. To be honest, waste of money. Way too much power and didn't use what the bike was meant for. This R7 should be fine for me.
@@winner1338 yeah, I don’t have a restriction here in Canada either but started on an r3 even though I really wanted the r6 (still do) but i know it would be wasted here, can’t really open it up unless you’re really up there in the rpms and at that point you’re double the limit lol R7 is a perfect option for the street
I have been riding my 1985 Yamaha Vmax 1200 for a couple of weeks now. It has 11,700 original miles and is in mint condition. It is number 2131 off the production line. Any Vmax before 2500 is 100% full power. Factory rated at 145 hp I had it on a Dyno at 127 hp to the 170 rear tire. Not bad for a 36 year old bike.
The new R7 makes sense for the street and at this price. Anything more would be significantly more expensive, moving it into a different market.
Of all the people complaining that this is not an R6 or previous R7, how many actually bought one of those. Hint.... it's not many or they wouldnt have discontinued them.
R6 was one of the best selling bikes Yamaha has ever sold, they discontinued it because for one they didn't want to spend the money to make it current emission complaint, but mainly because there is a hell of a lot more margin they can make on this new R7 (which uses mostly cheap stamped steel constructions), as compared to the very expensive to manufacture R6 (which is all high end forged aluminum and magnesium components). The R6 was for people that buy sportbikes for the performance, the R7 is for people that buy sportbikes to pull the ladies...
I think it will be better if lower the price to 8k. Lets be honest, its a roided up R3 or ninja 400
@@Uninfluenceable It stopped being one of their best selling bikes years ago mate. Companies don't stop selling products that are in demand and making money. 🤦🏽♂️
@@rockafella1690 perhaps that's true in the UK, but in the US the sportbike is still king. The R1 outsells the MT-10 probably 10 to 1. This move from Yamaha is completely profit driven. Even if they sell half as many R7's as R6's, they will make 5x the profit as there is a heck of a lot more margin to be made on the R7 compared to the R6. I'm sure the R7 will sell fine, but it will never achieve the same status as the R6 did. Show up to any track day or canyon ride here in California and you will see more R6's than any other make or model of bike. I doubt that will be true with the R7...
@@Uninfluenceable you'll see more *used* R6s. My dealership, smack in the middle of the bay area has sold less than a dozen R6s in the last three years while they literally can't keep MTs of any displacement on the floor for more than a few days.
this is great.. cheap, probably 35kw compatible, good looking, motor that by now everyone knows, perfect for some mid range track day tournaments this will do it for sure
Your review was a great read. A bike you can actually use to its full potential as a commuter and weekends in the canyons.
Damn dude that intro was SICK ! The music , everything. Bad ass ridin too 😊
I was just in the mtns on my 1000cc and was wishing it was a smaller less powerful bike. I’d love to try one of these
Finally a proper review video of r7 on RUclips. Fed-up of those on board stupid thing
Love it! Great video!
Peace, nice video. You got me when you said most of em never rode a Real R7 anyway, lol. I spoke about the same thing in my cover of the R7. Great vid...
Great review Troy! You always do an amazing job with the quality of information that others can't provide.
Wow. That's really nice of you to say. Thanks.
@@TroySiahaan That's the truth. You're very welcome.
Concur. You definitely did a much better job reviewing this bike than many others who have tried.
The difference between this and the vids the "RUclipsrs" put up were night and day. Well done
@@400chevlc You can clearly see why Troy is an actual professional writer after comparing his video and article to motovloggers. The quality of words and construction are far superior.
Good review with useful information 👍🏻
Nice first impressions of the bike.
Great review Troy!
My 05 R6 already had radial brembo master cylinder from stock.
Best review I have seen for R7 by far..
Demo rode an R7 on the NJ Motorsports Park a few days ago. Had an absolute blast on it! Yamaha did a great job with this one!
@Kattrap I owned an MT07 before and also did the R6 throttle tube. Would do the same mod here. Throttle on the R7 feels like factory MT07.
Fantastic video. I cant wait to try one of these out. I got a 2017 R3 as my first motorcycle at the end of 2019. 6k miles later I am still loving it. I put some Bridgestone S20 Evos on it, along with a few other upgrades. I feel like this R7 would be a great bike to trade it in for, but I cant let it go. I'm trying as hard as I can to keep the R3 forever. Cheers.
Former R3 owner myself! Awesome little bike and honestly I'd consider an R7 to be the perfect upgrade of you don't want to go to an MT-09 or such. But if you want to stick with the R3 nothing wrong with that either!
not a bad idea if you'd like to develop your craft! i would suggest hanging onto it until deals pop up end of MY for the r7... if u get a crummy trade in, keep the r3 as a track bike. U still don't want to throw a $9k bike down the road (track)
Was going to keep mine forever too but it got stolen. Loved that bike
@@mrobinson8686 so sorry to hear that. Was it at home or out in public?
Word! We have a 2016 R3 at home bought from brand new and I'm still riding it after selling my 1990 CBR250RR. Been wanting to upgrade to a 600cc super sports but this little thing just has so much potential that I haven't wringed out yet. Also chucked on some Diablo Rosso III last month and loving it. :)
All the reasons for not buying an r6 you stated perfectly. Who wants to ride around at 12,000rpm it’s not really usable in the street which brought me to the r3 for all around fun and it’s a great little bike till you hit open road which I don’t too often but often enough to consider adding this r7. I’ll have to take a test ride to make that decision but I still need to raise the bars an inch at least due to back issues. It’s surprising how much that helps.
The real question is where can I get those race lines ? Great review
I like to see the mysterious mechanics that inflate the tires, etc. 💯🕴
Hmmm? With CFmoto hooked up with KTM and announcing a suite 750cc paralell twins I bet we see an RC750 in the not so distant future, so watch out twin cup racing (750cc limited) with Blue & Orange rivals going hard at it. This has to be a good thing right?
Say I if you have ever even ridden the old r7. The guy keeps talking about how it's so different and it's not like the old r7. Who cares? 99% of people buying this bike have never rode the old r7 and probably have never even seen one. I'm so happy it's not an inline 4 with only power at the top. This is what people want! A cool looking bike to blast around on the streets and pop some wheelies on. This will do that way better than an r6 or old r7
He says exactly this towards the end of the video.
This should be used on track for beginners. I want this so bad.
What do u ride?
Also, the 749 cc motor on the old r7 is pretty torquey in comparison to a gutless 600, but I agree with your point, hardly anyone has owned nor ridden an original R7
Because 90% of viewers wasn't even born at the time or was well under the age.
How can we confirm the brake-pads material that comes stock because usually immediate switching to *sintered EBC* improves braking *significantly* if it doesn't come w/ *sintered* pads on
I love it. I grew up watching BSB and WSC and the venernable R7 so I am glad Yamaha have brought the name back in a package that makes sense today.
I think Yamaha have nailed it with this one! Opening a new chapter for those who are both older and young. 👍😎
@motorguitarcycle I couldn’t agree more. Bring on an R9, I’d take that everyday of the week and twice on Sunday’s over the R1 ( where you can lose your license just in first gear!), way to much for the roads...
I rather would go with Aprilia rs660..
@@pchzl that’s a better bike hands down. It’s also carrying a higher price to match. So for the money, Yamaha have made an affordable bike that will outsell the Aprilia by a country mile.
@@marcusgeorge1825 you’re right the r7 will be the game changer on the market which will outsell all the bikes like cbr650r etc. I wish to see the r9 with something like the mt09 engine and I would definitely think about buying it. Current r7 is not for me..
@@pchzl I couldn’t agree more with you on that. Bring on an R9 and I’ll be buying one. The R7? No. However, if the 650 ish class (fully faired) is for what peps want the I have no doubts the R7 will top the sales charts. If money isn’t an issue then the RS660 is the ultimate king of that class. I just don’t see the need for any plus 1000 cc sport bike for the roads. As let’s face the truth that realistically speaking, less than 0.0001% of the riders on the planet will be able to fully use the capabilities of this machines on the road. That is if you have zero intention of using them on a track. A R9 however will be arguably the best bang for buck bike ( in that category) you could possibly get and still not be able to use it all.
great review!
Great review and I agree with the other commenters: Yamaha needs to bring an R9.
The review of the R7 I've been waiting for
Awesome bike i wanna have one 🔥🔥🔥
That engine is one of the best with some differences between the T7, MT07,and now R7. Wondering what is interchangeable between them?
Okay, so they took a fun bike, MT07, moderated the weaknesses and put a sporty fairing on it, thus making it more fun. Sounds great
It’s gonna be fun but I’m gonna miss the sound of the in-line 4
Thanks for the review. Answered a question that's been bugging me. I have one on order and was hoping the QS would work for race pattern shift. Alas it looks like it's a no go accessory for me then.
Can’t help thinking Yamaha have done it again with this new R7. I love it 👍🏻
5:47 cool sound! Do you have the complete onboard video?
Hey, Yamaha has renamed models before (FZ-> MT, FJ -> Tracer, Star -> ?). If the name bothers you, write a petition or something. I'm just glad they're making something accessible, and fun, which might attract new riders.
Well said 👊
😂 lol
They are squandering the cache of the 'R' moniker. That may turn out to be a good business decision in the long run. Especially if people are getting smarter about buying a motorcycle that will spend the vast majority of its life on the street. They could have just as easily called it an FZ7R, it sort of splits the difference.
@@rs232killer I was thinking the same thing. FZ7R would be good. Another Idea I had was RT-07 or maybe MT-07R. Basically anything to say, "this isn't a race replica, unless you are looking at the twins class, then yes it's a race replica."
I bought a MT-25 the other day and it took me only 3 months to get bored of it so I sold it and got myself a bigger one (Duke 390) and I find it extremely fun
I can’t wait for track days
In Taiwan, some of the riders go to retailers on bikes (if course scooters are more common). I once saw a young lady with her 600RR go shopping.
For me, I don't want an inline 4 for these daily use. R6 has too much heat for grocery errands, but R7 would well fit these tasks
Who the hell goes shopping with a Supersport bike.
@@Allenamenwarenschonweg indonesian mid economy level will do that . We buy superbike just for morning run and weekend . Or go to mall 😂
That is very reasonably priced for a brand new machine! I paid that for my 08 R6 raven in 2015
Itbis a beautiful bike with more usable power in the real world. The only thing that I don't like is the way all the wires are infront of the speedash. The dash is covered by wires and looks untidy. It is the same in R3 as well. The looks of thr bike is something that one will get used to with time, that headlight in the center, I guess will take time for some people to get used to...however I am sure it will be a more fun bike.
I like the design But a little disturbed by the headlights.I like it. I love two cylinders.l like Yamaha YZF R7.
What is the model that Helmet Troy?
I really want one now. 😅
Review yang bagus Pak Troy
love at first sight! if yamaha brings it to india for the exact same price as in us, i am ready to sacrifice my car for it!
unfortunately, even dreaming this isnt possible/ useful in India ☹️
Can’t imagine an R7 would be suited to delivering Uber eats
How to close the main light when you trun on the engine?
Yamaha give us the dang Tracer 700 in the US already.
@Kattrap Seems so odd they would do that. They would sell like crazy here. It hits the real sweet spot for me. Now I just want the BMW F900XR
looks like a well thought out bike although as the MT07 XSR7 and Tracer 7 are all too small for those over 6'2" tall Im guessing this will be also. A conversion of the MT09 however......
Agreed they should bring out a engine with mid-range and smoothness of the mt-09 that is an extremely fun bike to ride! Now put that into the looks and setup of a R6! And the mt-09 was also still affordable!
Can’t wait for the street review, then on to the Aprilia RS660 battle.
No chance against the Aprilia. Less Power, Less comfortable, much worse electronics. Maybe more reliable and better looks although taste differ, so...
Nice work. Looks the biz plus your comment on the naming is spot on... “Get over it!!”
This will be my second motorcycle when it comes out, exactly what i want. I have a 300cc one, and i want some power but not something like an R6 or R1, but i want the look of those 2 bikes. This is my dream bike dude
sorry but this R7 is so poor... middle sport bike with 70cv/80cv ? Sorry, but my gsx-s750 (with gsxr's motor) and its the same price and I got 114cv ! The Ninja 636 costs more 2.000€ than R7 and it has 130cv !
@@PB-cv1ge Mate, this bike is literally perfect for someone moving up from an R3 or 300cc. Brilliant price point, beautiful power band for daily driving, what about it is poor?
@@PB-cv1ge
Not everyone is interested in BHP!
This bike is for a totally different demographic.
Either way, I'd take a 636 over a GSXR any day, because Suzuki is all about budget, which means less bike for your money.....
@@ukcitizen1158 thats why i bought a gsxs 750... has the gsxr motor, and is not a naked and not a sport bike, its a street fighter. Try to drive a R7 and Gsxs 750 and you will see it your eyes 😁
The gsxs 750 allow more to you , comfortable,power, tecnology than R7.
Looks fun to me !
i would had taken this R7 for sure from my R3, BUT, for that price point i would really stay with the Z900 in mind instead, same price and you get more technology and more engine, just for the sporty look and feel you are paying the price of an overall better motorcycle...still have to wait and see...
Should have introduced a new thundercat and thunderace as this bike does not have the engine characteristics for the track, nor the brake lines. Would have been much better if it was a really good sport-tourer like a thundercat was. Just my 2 cents
You hit the nail on the head in the beginning of the video. The reason 600s are dying is because they weren't priced correctly. Why buy a 600 or 800 when for just a thousand or 2 more i can get the same type of bike in 1000 cc. If a middleweight supersport was like 5 grand less they would still sell. Who doesn't want more power if the price is almost the same?
Top end can catch up with Aprilia RS660?
Brembo radial master cylinder did appear first time on 2005 R6, so it is not true that it appeared first time on R7!
Esperamos ter esse brinquedo aqui 😁🇧🇷
It isn't just that it's a poor successor to the vaunted R7; it's not even a proper successor to the R6. I don't dislike it for what it is, I dislike it for what it pretends to be.
Getting past that, thank you for the great review. Lots of good info, all presented very well. 👍
So keen on one of these, as soon as I move up a licence class I'll be selling my Ninja 400 and getting one of these bad boys
I wonder if that quickshifter would work in GP shift if you flipped the actual shift rod🤔
he said no at 6:35
Everyone hating on this bike but i love it! After watching kila cam and blondie moto vlogs ! It is a perfect bike! Great for woman and men!
Let's see a group test R7, R6, 660 & whatever other interesting bike you can throw in maybe a Triumph
Perfect for the target group.
Great video! R9 can’t be far behind, I hope!
Why and R9 when there's already the R1
@@markhill8590 why not!
@@pistolpete6321 why buy and R9 when for not much more you can an R1 the world of inline 4 600s supersports are dead now its all going to be twins
@@markhill8590 r9 will be a mt09 with fairings if they keep the trend going,so about 110 hp,and wayyyy cheaper than an r1.MSRP will probably be at around 10k new,so theres a whole lot of point to do it
@@leftvassis 10k? Be serious you'll be talking around 11-12k let's not forget that the R6 was 12,500
This is the exact bike I’ve been looking for. Though about getting an mt-07 or 09 but just don’t like the styling and want it to be aerodynamic
Exactly. People seem to be missing the point not everyone likes the boring upright naked style
Same here, although I am a beginner who is looking at this for a 2nd bike.
It's Yamaha's super twin for the races. 😉😁😁😁
As long as they continue to build these beautiful machines I dont care what they call them..
Should this one had 3 bangers.. the world will come begging for it.
Yep, the P-twin just isn't sporty enough to be in a real sports bike. Yamaha just making a cheap middleweight.
weirdly i was thinking of shoehorning my tdm850 mot0r into a zxr 400 chassis. think the r7 would have stood out a little more with the 4 headlights of the tenere
What was that at 2:58 ??
This seems like a pretty great bike.
It is. I bought one and love it.
Put a deposit down on one at my local dealership. Their Yamaha rep is estimating mid-late July for delivery. My dealer is only getting THREE. These things are going to be hard to find I'm guessing.
Slalu lebih informatif kalo si troy yg review
I didn't know the history of the "R7" name. The riding ergos & engine combination is what confuses me. I was thinking it'd be like what Aprilia did with the RS660. I had assumed they were going to de-tune the R6 engine? Or possibly beef up the MT-07 engine for this one. Another possibility I was thinking it was going to similar to the Ninja 650R; Sport bike looks but more relaxed ergos & an engine that is versatile for the streets.
Trizzle you think there is any chance Suzuki follows suit and gives us an SV650S to compete? I like the fact that that engine just likes to rev more, and in demo rides I thought the SV handled a bit better. The only thing that was kinda meh on my SV650 demo ride were the brakes but if they did make a R7 competitor I'd expect them to raid the parts bin for the radial brakes off the GSX-S750, at least I hope.
Never say never, but I'm not holding my breath. This coming from a SV650 owner, too.
@@TroySiahaan Thanks for the response Trizzle. I hope Suzuki surprises both of us.
Will they be bring out a 2022 R1 by any chance?
Bang Troy, kapan kau pulang ke Medan?
They need to make a new frame and mid ergos like the RS660 , a commuter with a little tuck . Add full electric package and steel braided. Love the RS660, just worried with the reliability.
They make it fast to catch the part of the RS660 sales...
Finally yamaha releases a 650. I've been waiting for the for so long.
Now they need to make a faster R3
@@bryankc9644 honestly an R4 would be hella cool. Especially if they did like a baby cp3 or something.
@@remigusker6024 the zx4r is coming out soon. 400cc inline 4
@@brucewayne6858 only problem is that an i4 400 will end up costing closer to budget 650s than R3/N400. Would be sweet as a track bike, would love having such a powerful, light little bike though
Which bikes in this class DO have TC or Launch control??
Why do you still call it YZF? I thought they had removed that from their naming convention?
Very nice bike I love it
Troy is the man!
Honestly, great naming scheme, don't even care about all the salty people. Great marketing by Yamaha, following the same structure of the MT line. Great price point. Great looking. And hopefully, great performing bike. Can't wait to see what they can do with the R9. 👍🏻
yeah, imagine if the R1 was replaced by an R9, you think people would be pissed? Well that's how R6 owners feel currently...
@@Uninfluenceable by mantaining the MT line scheme logic, that won't happen, as you have the MT-09 and naturally the MT-10. Also, it wouldn't make sense to remove the R1 because it's a flagship product and at least has a bit of torque down in the revs, so it's not gutless on the street. The R6 was a middleweight bike that was only usable in track because it had nothing at low and mid revs. I actually think the R9 will be the real R6 replacement, because the horsepower is more comparable and it will have way more torque, making it usable on street and on track. I feel what you're saying, but if you want to attract new riders, while making companies money and still making new fun bikes all at the same time, this is the way to go.
@@Uninfluenceable I don't think most R6 owners feel anything about this because they already have an R6. The only people mad about this are ones who like the *idea* of owning an R6 and are either too poor to buy one or don't actually ride anyway. If you really want an R6 there's thousands of 2019+ bikes still sitting in dealerships waiting for all these angry owners to buy them.
@@iamricardomarques That's all relative. They're not as torquey as r1s obviously but they are perfectly usable on the street, I feel like people who say this just haven't ridden 600s.
@@rustyshackleford6874 on a 600 the party doesn’t start until 9.000 or 10.000 rpm and by then you’re already breaking every speed limit known to man. Unless you live in Germany and you have an Autobahn at your doorstep. It’s fun ripping like that on track, on street is just stupid.
Thank you! All the butthurt over the R7 name has just been so cringy. People hating a perfectly fine bike without even riding it just because it happens to be NAMED after a 20+ year old super rare bike that they have never seen or ridden, or could ever afford anyways, without realizing that Yamaha can name their bikes whatever the hell they want, lol. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But stop talking smack about a sorely needed and sensible sportbike just because you wanna look like a "real" biker or whatever fragile ego compensation crap you're on.
Honestly I want to know what is in the background at 2:59
I have a 2005 yamaha with a oem brembo master cylinder .
great vid though
I am gonna get one of these
Did i miss the description of the engine? is it a 2 3 or 4 cylinder? Not familiar with mt-07. i can look it up, but why would you not say?
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I look forward to the R7 vs Priller 660 vs SV650 shootout.
frankly, the R7 is going to be the better choice at a better price, and that's coming from a tuono owner. the 660 pricing is just too dang high - way to close to ducati panigale v2 pricing at least here in Oz, and that's a whole 'nother ball game.
@@utubeski42 I'm from Aus have both 790 & 890R Duke (reasons on my channel) & if KTM with CFMoto build an RC750 I'l be getting one of those big time.