EXCLUSIVE: New Letter in JonBenét Ramsey Case Revealed
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- In a #CourtTV Exclusive interview, Michael Vail opens a new letter from his former classmate, Gary Oliva. Oliva is a convicted pedophile who allegedly confessed to Vail that he murdered JonBenét Ramsey in 1996. It is one of the country’s most high-profile unsolved crimes.
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We know ghiselane maxwell was at one of her last parents. Because she is pictured at the same pageant. And you all brushed it all away.
He's just another nut job looking for attention.
@@BigDaddy-vr2ut According to a full online article in Rolling Stone magazine, dated July 10th 2020 it's only a conspiracy theory that started on Twitter and Reddit then travelled over to TikTok, that's likely the reason why they didn't include it in the video.
Disappointing that Court TV dabbles in this BS, knowing as you do that this person has NOTHING to do with jonbenet's murder. Vinnie has gone Tabloid.
He wrote it
The fact that this case still hasn’t been solved is mind-boggling to me. I don’t understand why Boulder PD won’t let Othram Labs test the DNA.
Easy. To test the DNA is to destroy it...and there isn't much of it to begin with. The Ramsey's want it gone
Because they’re culpable
Because cops are useless
The bother did it and the mom and dad knew it
@@LalaThatgirl-un7vo No way. The dad is the one begging them to check the DNA.
Stop the madness and test the DNA!!!
Was there DNA ?
@@rms5025 Consistent Unidentified Male DNA (known as UM1 DNA) found: under her fingernails, on both sides of her long-johns, & co-mingled w/ her blood in her panties. There is also what is known as "DNA X" which was found in the basement but not near the body 🤔
@@rms5025 Yes there was DNA in JonBenet's underwear
@@veg2489was the dna stored properly? Who knows the cops screwed that whole investigation.
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I was her age when she was murdered. It scared me so badly when I found a magazine about it right after it happened. I’ve always imagined what it was like for her and I pray that she finally gets her justice. RIP Jonbenet
Omg same here. Scariest thing in the world. I hope they find her killer 😠
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Especially when they said, "Be careful. Because there's a murderer out there!"
Nope! The bother probably did it.
I thought that was disgusting that they allowed that to be broadcast.
NOT SO! It was her lonely and VERY JEALOUS BROTHER. After all, Child Psychologist AJ Elliot stated-"The twisting of the rubber band with the pencil is exactly what a child would do"! As a matter of fact, Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey were EXTREMELY disgusted and very sick when they stated, "IT WAS NOT HER BROTHER, AND YOU WILL NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS"! The Ramseys were throwing up inside themselves with guilt and disgust at how they completely shed all their attention on Jonbenet while her brother was viciously jealous! Go figure?
@@wmccourtney2814 l think so too.
The time the police spent tormenting the family and let the killer walk free, disgraceful.
If They Actually Had Consciences They Should Be Ashamed !!!
Letting mama and daddy walk free.
I feel so sorry this little girl was even involved as a beauty queen.
Poor little girl she was dressed as an adult. That should never be.
Very sad!
I would never have exploited my child like this, there is way to many sick people out there, especially in today's society, parents should love an protect their babies, instead of looking for fame or fortune on their children. I think it's dangerous even for adults in these pageants, it's advertising sexual and delicate lives. This is my opinion! I just think parents are sad people to do this with their children...
Pageants are foul
It’s not at all unusual in the Southern US. It’s like dress-up and charm school, plus dance, gymnastics, voice and other talent development. Charm school is a bit antiquated, but all of those aspects of pageants are quite innocent. I had a child in dance and modeling contests (judged at the same time, based on headshots or portfolio pictures). I drove and attended 20-60 hours a week for years and NEVER saw anyone attend dance comps, besides the participants’ parents. Anywhere we traveled, literally no one else attended them. I was in pageants, as a little kid. Same thing. Competitive cheerleading is another story, because the comps are pretty fantastic and some teams represent their schools, including high schools where some students are old enough to drive themselves to friends’ events. There are adult All Star teams. School and competition teams perform at halftime, so everyone who sees the game sees the cheerleaders. My child was performing on a Mini team, at age 5. Cheer is far more public than pageants. I would bet money that only the family and other pageant kids and moms saw JonBenet’s glamour pageant photos, when she was on this earth.
@@BettyJane2023. Honestly, it’s so rare for anyone to go to pageants, besides moms and maybe grandparents of the entrants. I was a dance mom, but in pageants as a kid. The parents are typically very familiar with each other and often know each other well, traveling together and going to the same coaches, studios and events. You may not know anyone at Nationals, except the moms at your studio, but I’ve rarely seen a man attend and, not to be stereotypical, but most of the male judges I met are gay. Parents almost always stay for every minute of a child’s training and when I say parents, I mean moms and grandmas. In the event that a stranger wandered in (literally never seen it), the parents make sure not to let kids out of our sight! These are dedicated parents, highly invested in keeping our kids out of trouble and In activities they enjoy and grow through. We pay far more than a house payment, to do it. I never took my kids door to door, fundraising for their teams or activities. I came up with novel fundraising ideas and sold things at their studios and schools and moms traded cleaning, hairdressing, and other services. Many worked at their kids’ studio, for a discount on lessons. Only one of my kids was in dance and modeling, the one who was interested. My other child did math and science projects and camps. My dancer was also in cheer, which is far more public. The pageants my friends and I were in, as kids, were typically held in a private hall or closed gymnasium or theater. It’s doubtful many people even knew JonBenet was in pageants, besides other participants and their moms. The kids’ addresses and hometowns are not on the program, or available to the public. Many parents drive to another town and other states, for pageants. Some stay within their state, but not usually their city or town, for pageants or even training. I won scholarships and drove my child up to 60 miles, to lessons, on scholarship. The only reason the world knows about JonBenet’s pageant hobby is because she was murdered. Great pains are taken to simulate a real mainstage experience, but it’s really not. My husband never attended a dance comp or modeling contest…men in attendance is rare.
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They kept saying he was obsessed with JonBenet but they didn’t say if he showed that before she was killed or after. How did he know her, did he see her somewhere because he says he loved her. How did he get in? What was the purpose of the ransom note? Had he ever written a ransom note in his other crimes? He said she fell but doesn’t mention the garrotte. Was he in the house before the family came home? How did he know the amount stated in the ransom note was almost the same as John’s bonus? How did he keep her quiet? Did he give her the pineapple that was unexplained? Where in the note and his letters did the handwriting samples get taken from for reference? Was his DNA actually checked and cleared? Was he the one who left the glove behind?
There are so many unanswered questions and this didn’t convince me. It seems like a bit of a stretch?
💯💯💯💯
I too want to know how he knew or knew of Jon Benet.
Who are you talking to?
@stevetrivago6347
Sounds like he/she is talking to all of us, asking our opinion by her questions.
@@SweetyD2023 Thank you, that’s exactly what I was trying to do. I really would like to know the answers to my questions. I think they’re valid.
I will never understand dressing little girls as sexy adults. NEVER.
Since the Boulder Colorado Police never wanted this case solved, I am wondering about THEM.
There were two, both were pageant girls.
@@kimberlykreisel250 What if both girls had been involved in cheerleading instead, at 6 years old? Cheerleading outfits are more immodest than the pageant dresses little girls wear. Also pageant girls learn poise, cheerleaders, even the younger girls, learn how to shake their booty and dance in front of mixed crowds of people in parades and sporting events. (I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with children dancing, I’m just making a point in comparison)! Some parents put their children in competitive dancing, where they’re taught to dance like adults do, the rumba and things like that. The girls, some as young as 5 when they start out, wear a lot of makeup and most of their outfits are quite revealing, even for the older girls that have started developing….The boys, their dance partners, dress more modestly….I’m not criticizing their parents for that, but we can’t act like those pageants for children are the worst things parents can put their daughters in. In comparison:
Cheerleading
Adult style dancing for children
Gymnastics
Even going to the beach
Every one of those put even little girls in immodest clothing. Normal people like us know little girls are innocent and we shouldn’t have to worry about bringing them to a beach, or enrolling them in gymnastics, dancing, or cheerleading, but all those things attract a lot of people and not all of those people are nice people with good intentions. I hardly ever hear people criticize how cheerleaders, or female gymnasts dress, no matter what age group they’re in, even the ones in the same age group Jon Benet was. So how are beauty pageants so much worse than all those other things?
@@deborahtruthseeker112 it looks like the want to cover up for their mess up, and they did mess up big time.
Embarrassment.....they were wrong ...
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
I think with all of the theories and speculation there is one thing upon which most of us agree: This case will probably remain unsolved if left in the hands of the Boulder Police Department.
Recently the Colorado Bureau of Investigation created a crack cold case team to reinvestigate this case. They want to retest the DNA evidence.
@@nbenefiel 👏I didn't know that! Good!
Let's not be too gullible here now....
Someone on court TV is smoking as much meth as don wells.
Right, all bs
Is he Puerto Rican. It worked for condidit.. (chandra levy)
The TV show was 200 % right. All specialists in the field and we all know the defamation history. Wonder how people can still believe other made up theories.
Exactly more bullshit
She was such a precious little girl. This case is haunting and heartbreaking.
They were dressing her like an old lady, this is a bad omen
Her parents didn't protect her enough and they put her in a beauty pageant she should have been protected she shouldn't have been in beauty pageants
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What makes it even worse is I feel she passed on Christmas night .. even after all these years and how advanced DNA testing has become I don’t see why they can’t solve this case. She deserves justice and the living deserve it especially her father.
We’re the FBI involved ? If not why not?
That poor little girl. Such a horrible end of life. RIP little angel.
I'm still hoping and praying that this case will be solved and give this beautiful little angel a justice! 🙏
True justice is only in eternity but I understand what you mean. My daughter died that next Christmas! My 12 yr old choked in her sleep from a seizure. I still miss her ever single day. So so long ago though. Forgotten by everybody but Momma!
God hasn't forgotten her! Jesus promised to resurrect her & billions of other innocent people. So many scriptures encourage us NOT to forget about God's promise to bring the dead back to life & to reunite them with their families. This will occur after Armageddon, when Jesus returns to rule the earth, he will heal the earth & eliminate all wicked people!
So ook forward to being reunited with your babygirl!
John 5:27-29;
John 11:23-27;
Acts 24:15;
Psalms 37:29
May God bless you with truth!
Sexualized as a child. What were her parents thinking?
Pray ? 😅
@@diadang3891ur god certainly did...it don't care if it existed😅
These child beauty contests are creepy. Anyone looked at the audience in Honey Boo Boo? Full of creeps. And the photographers, stylists.. there are so many creeps involved in this weird world of dressing up children like 20 year olds with fake teeth and whatnot..
Wasn’t Maxwell seen in the audience of JonBenet? A pe-o ring was once mentioned. She deserves Justice.. test DNA!!
I agree. At this point, children dressing and posing as adult women in pageants should be outlawed.
Gods children are not for sale 🙏 The business of children involved people who are insane, in first place parents using their own children to forced them in beauty business😢
Rip little girl🙏
Even 20 year Olds look ridiculous dressed up with all that fake stuff
@@lindacannon2239 Yes. 100%
I’m a little weirded out by the fact that before JB, this guy apparently was already a depraved monster… & it seems (by his own account) Michael was completely “ok” with it. Why didn’t you go to the police when he was writing you fantasies of things he either wanted to do, or already did do to little girls?
Sometimes people like that kinda flock together, not accusing nobody, just making a point 😊imo
@@diamondeyez135 Totally agree. Water seeks its own level.
This man making these claims of Gary Oliva killing JB aren’t true. He never told him he killed JB, he told him he killed a girl, not JB. This man wanted the limelight & when he claims to have called the cops the next day, but there wasn’t any record of it. I think he wanted to make himself relevant & made up most of the accusations of JB. They both were bad dudes, Gary & Him. Who continues to accept tapes for 16 years of these fantasy killings and rape & torture of little girls? They corresponded for years so this man has to be close to the same as Gary. He’s still wanting to be important & relevant & talks of how his handwriting is changed again. Someone’s handwriting doesn’t change so drastically from letter to letter. He made up most of these “stories & allegations” for his own self worth. He should have compared the hand writing, since there’s so many different writing samples, and this man may himself be involved in her death. Some people stay close to cases where they know first hand the truth of what happened.
@@showkitties3844 it's hard not to wonder 😕
Michael creeps me out. He really gives me that vibe of pedophile! These tapes that he was explaining about how he would go into detail about child R*PE... is too strange.
As a senior Englishwoman, May I say how dreadfully uncomfortable it makes me to see young children dressed up and parading in this way. It is thankfully not something seen too often over here. I know there are mothers who might do this quite innocently, but the world is full of far from innocent men (and women) who would do serious harm for their own ends or financial gain. Little girls should be worrying about what game to play, not which shade of lipstick looks best. IMHO.
What an insensitive thing to say. Was anything you shared helpful in finding the murderer, or was it just satisfying for you to imply it’s the mother’s “fault” that she exposed her daughter to pedophiles or murderers? Young prodigies in any form where they have a wide public audience can fall victim to the viciousness of warped minds. By all accounts Jon Benet enjoyed competition in these events and was never forced to engage. Just because it’s not your world of experiences does not mean those who enjoy pageants shouldn’t be able to seek happiness and passion in expressing themselves the way the Ramsay’s did.
And I thought I was being remarkably sensitive actually.
My intention was not to offend but of course, this is social media after all. We all have opinions on these things. We have both expressed ours, different as they may be.
I simply feel children grow up and leave childhood so fast, having them parading as pretend adults I suppose, is the ultimate dress up.
You don’t have to scroll down very far in these comments to see just exactly what many people feel! And you think I am insensitive? It seems I can restrain myself after all.
Sorry I’m late but what you said is true. It is creepy and a pedos dream. Sad it’s like that but true
I agree. I am not against pagents, but why are they not competing as the children they are? I never understood dressing them like showgirls, all the makeup and adult hairstyles - basically sexualizing them. It’s weird, and I’m glad that though it seems to be an American thing, most Americans feel the same way you do.
I’m not feeling confident that this guy is her killer. I’ve always wondered why the parents didn’t check the basement. If your child is missing, you’re going to check every inch of the house, and the perimeter.
agreed
My .02... Burke got mad and hit JonBenet with the Maglite after she took a piece of pineapple he was eating. The rest is what they ALL did to cover it up.
The ransom note was a red herring meaning to cast suspicion on the Ramseys. It was also intended to delay finding the body. After finding the ransom note the Ramseys checked out the second floor and Jon Benet was gone. It was assumed she had been kidnapped. The cops checked the basement but never opened the latched door to the old coal room. Gary Oliva’s DNA does not match the DNA. She did not die from being smashed on the head. You do not get that kind of injury from falling. The fracture was on the top of her skull. She died from strangulation. She was alive when she was garroted.
@@sunarf EXACTLY!!!!
we no who did it , dont we?
Keep this little innocent girl in your prayers, no matter what comes out. She was a child , who was taken. Many prayers & love from Ireland xxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for this lovely comment, Gillian.
She is with God ❤ thankfully
This world is so cruel.
NOT SO! It was her lonely and VERY JEALOUS BROTHER. After all, Child Psychologist AJ Elliot stated-"The twisting of the rubber band with the pencil is exactly what a child would do"! As a matter of fact, Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey were EXTREMELY disgusted and very sick when they stated, "IT WAS NOT HER BROTHER, AND YOU WILL NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS"! The Ramseys were throwing up inside themselves with guilt and disgust at how they completely shed all their attention on Jonbenet while her brother was viciously jealous! Go figure?
@@wmccourtney2814 yeah right Sherlock.
Her dad
1.) I can't see this guy sitting down to write a ransom note 3 pages long. 2.) This guy knows how to spell "attache?"
Patsy wrote that letter.
Find me in the history of EVER does someone sit down and write a 3 page ransom note in the house on patsys stationary and her pen and hangs in there for that long after or before committing a brutal murder. Do we not have common sense ????
@@staceypollack808he was coming and going in and out of that huge house without them knowing. He had time to write it and he is a writer!!they literally found a couple yogurt cups and some rope in an unused wing of the house.
@@lakedog3616experts say otherwise.
This case was handled horribly
After so many years they’re still going on about who killed this girl…. After blaming the father after blaming the mother after blaming the brother. Do DNA and let this soul and family rest.
They did test this guy's DNA and it wasn't a match but this crew are saying forget the DNA look at the handwriting lol
There was NO viable DNA from a stranger found on Jon Benet.
@@chicosmummy Use Genealogy to trace the DNA and who it belongs to.
As if they never thought of that, lol. Only touch dna, or skin cell dna was found on her (the source was likely the clothing manufacturers) - no blood or semen. People are very ignorant about this case because of the media and legal shenanigans surrounding the case.
@@murdershe......7378 that's not exactly how DNA testing works - unfortunately
There was DNA on her clothes. The only reason this case is unsolved is because of a cover-up.
There was pine needles in basement that is evidence of bet there was fibers there also that wasn't tried to match including this creep
Someone in the police department didn’t want the truth out …..they are connected to the drug house close to the Ramsay’s
@@YoMamaWhatsUp I agree 100%…. Any other info you can share please do !!!
@@YoMamaWhatsUp omg what an amazing story, thank you for sharing this and the personal stories as well which I respect. I have followed this as many have but never thought the family was involved, there is a FB page where currently, an unknown person somehow connected to the investigation posts random updates. According to said person they have taken DNA from the 2nd male who is believed to be one of two men in the house, 3 dna matches have been found, apparently the confusion over the dna has been determined that 2 males, 1 Hispanic, 1 Caucasian were in the house with her and a female, sister to the Caucasian male. They claim to be circling in on 7 individuals who planned and or carried it out. From what I gather the neighbors guest who lived in the basement, glen Meyer was the ring leader….and the boulder police covered up and shifted suspicion became of a drug party type house feet away from the Ramsey home where the 3 intruders were had ties to the police dept…(one of which we know is in jail at the moment) drug laundering from Mexico to there and more,,,it’s hard to follow but if true it would explain the PD doing what they did….im glad you and your dad cha get your mind about Patsy, I felt so bad that she passed under suspicion by many, people are cruel…I’ve gotten hate for decades defending the family,y for decades, I don’t care, hopefully forensics will clear this up once and for all
If he was the killer, then why wasn't he id'd by DNA?
the show did not claim he was the killer. The act and the writing are two different things.
they didnt test him for DNA
@@SammyMcnammy -If he is a felon his dna should be on file.
None of these channels like Court TV will remind anyone that the FBI already took his DNA and they did compare his DNA to the profile found on JBR and it DID NOT MATCH. HE WAS CLEARED IN 2001 and yet here we are again, THIRSTY CLICK BAITERS LIKE VINNIE AND NANCY only make themselves look illegitimate and fake by continuing this crappy content for ratings. 👎🏻
@@musicismagic3001 I understand that however the police in the Jon Benet case say they aren't testing anymore DNA because the case is "closed". Jon Benet's dad has been trying to fight that and get DNA to be tested but they keep denying the requests
How could someone be so hard-hearted that they could kill such a defenseless little girl?! It breaks my heart!
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OJ did it
It was an accident. Patsy lost it.
@@jeannemarie5908 No way Jose.
Poor Patsy died with no answers and so many accusing her all while suffering a loss that compares to no other.
She knew.
Sorry but she knew.
@dianes5762 OR died with all the answers !!!
I researched this a lot, years ago! The man in video is being framed!
Most likely the Ramsey’s nine year old brother brought Jon Bennet to basement and then hit her on head with something to silence her, accidentally or purposefully killing her, and then most likely parents covered up for their son. They didn’t want to loose both children and their reputation and possible go to jail themselves! I am sure many people warned the parents not to do such evil to their own daughter!
Dressing any little (or any age girl) up like this, will lead to serious harm for that girl and for the perpetrators mind, and for all people. All girls become targets of abuse and all men are being tempted to do evil, and most all people are tempted to accept immoral behavior when our society accepts this evil!
Poor Jon Bennet was used as a prostitute from age 4-6years by wicked parents! I believe God took her early to spare her of a most wicked life, while parents posed as Christian, when they were really covertly following Satan!
NOT SO! It was her lonely and VERY JEALOUS BROTHER. After all, Child Psychologist AJ Elliot stated-"The twisting of the rubber band with the pencil is exactly what a child would do"! As a matter of fact, Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey were EXTREMELY disgusted and very sick when they stated, "IT WAS NOT HER BROTHER, AND YOU WILL NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS"! The Ramseys were throwing up inside themselves with guilt and disgust at how they completely shed all their attention on Jonbenet while her brother was viciously jealous! Go figure?
I’m looking at Gary Olivia’s “former classmate” sideways also. These sickos tend to hang out in packs. Why would he still be in touch with him after he “simulated a child rape” to him over the phone??? 🤮 😒😒🤔🤔 both of them suspect to me 👎🏽
Heck yeah. Why would Olivia contact him at all AND feel comfortable revealing ANY of this sick crap to him? They go waaaaay back 🤬
Whoever wrote the letter knew how much John's bonus was.
@ cereal_kwilla his friend was trying to get a concussion out of him he turned everything over to the police but they never done anything. It needs to all be given to the FBI and the ones in Boulder who did nothing with the exception of the man who died and his partner, butts.
@@coraseery4394 Concussion? … or a confession?? 😂😂🤣🤣
This guy was freaking out because he was saying he accidentally unalived her- you don’t accidentally wrap some thing like that around a persons neck you don’t accidentally SA that person he just wants attention to be connected to her in someway due to his obsession. My opinion of course.
My thoughts exactly
I believe he was telling a part-truth. I believe he said her body slipped and it bashed her head. This could have happened during the SA act bc he’d have to hold her body up, but if he slipped….it’s gruesome but I see it clearly. And he fits a detailed profile I made for the perpetrator. I hope this is it.
You're spot on! Such a weird "confession". The ransom note handwriting matched Patsy's handwriting; flashlight was wiped clean of any fingerprints and the person writing the ransom note (*cough Patsy cough cough*) knew the exact amount of John Ramsey's bonus payment from work. At this point it would be harder to prove the family WASN'T involved in some way!
He was tripping out because he did not expect to attend a party where the guests and parebts were murdering a child. He is not the only unwilling participant because Eric Burgess broke out in tears during his turn to choke Jonbenet and these two perps did not want to participate but what can you do when dealing with serial child murderer John Ramsey?
Dudes deep state and well connected in Georgia politics and member of the Gridiron Society.
I absolutely agree.
When this IS SOLVED, I think the Boulder Police in charge of this investigation, should be CHARGED WITH AIDING AND ABETTING THE MURDERER IN THE COMMISION OF THIS CRIME.
They need to be sued for torturing this family can you imagine your child is murdered and the pain you’re in then this clown show comes along.
Gary was also found with a stun gun in Boulder a couple days after her death. I believe he did it, please let them test the dam DNA & see if its a match! Her father & family deserve justice & some type of peace after all they have gone through & still go through🙏
Gary was photographed at the one year memorial for JonBenet, he was caught w/ the stun-gun on the Boulder University campus in 2000, and his DNA was collected, compared, & cleared around that same time.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 I don't think Gary killed her, I just believe he has a very unhealthy obsession with Jonbenet's death. The investigators need to investigate more deeply on the Henderson family. It seems to me the Henderson family had more to do with Jonbenet's death than any of the other suspects
@@onesolvedmystery2274wrong
@@tammywebb1289Is that another group of people who were at the party?
Who are the Hendersons?
Poor baby girl , she took her killer’s identity to the grave. May she rest in heaven❤️
When cold cases are solved in recent times I sincerely hope Ramsey's case also will solved anytime soon..that little soul need justice..🙏
Police were so sure Patsy, in a fit of anger, killed JonBenet that they dismissed any other confession. That's such a tragedy. This guy is creepy just looking at him.
He’s creepy. He’s a sex offender, but he didn’t commit this murder.
@@GinaAnderson254 The interview took place 20 years after the murder. Burke was obviously very nervous. The physical evidence exonerated anyone related to JonBenet.
I remember how the authorities belittled and disgraced the family. Especially poor Patsy as she was fighting breast Cancer. May God have mercy on the authorities. They are also guilty of her murder
There is DNA evidence and the father has been asking that police release this DNA evidrnce!!!
Really? is there any way you can share Where you found that information and if so,why haven’t The Police released that information to her dad ?he has a right to know.. if that’s true can’t a lawyer do something about it?
Really? Has the father been asking or has the father been threatening to sue if that DNA is released. Which is it? The Boulder Police hasn't released that evidence to anyone as they are afraid of being sued. Hey, in the high inflation Bidenomics era that we are living thru getting your pension every month is necessary.
What is the excuse given for not testing the DNA? Seems really strange.
Are they waiting for it to degrade enough that it’s useless?
Children grow up fast enough without this pagent stuff.
The police and the media killed Patsy. She had cancer but the stress not only from losing her daughter but also for blaming her and her husband made her cancer worse.
She did it and wrote the letter
Agree, Boulder responsible for not handling correctly.
Totally. People really believe that they did it although there are no proof of that.
If only she just cooperated and not lawyer up cops could have done they job.
@@ND-or5soPatsy did NOT do it! She LOVED her daughter SO much!
That phone call he got from Gary must really weigh on Micheals conscious. What a horror to live with.
The parents were treated so horribly wrong by the investigators!
Ok. Why, if classmate knew back then, why did he wait to come forward? I have many questions. Classmate is fishy.
I agree.... They have some weird bond. This is either bs or he is hiding some of his dark secrets. Now worried they will come out...
He did! Even John Ramsey and his legal team pushed Boulder police to investigate this monster early in the investigation. Police refused.
Were you even watching/listening?? He did go to the police multiple times and they didn’t take him seriously.
He also said that he’s currently working with a team of private investigators to use all of the information from Gary’s letters to hopefully move the case forward.
He’s creepy too, too excited in this interview. Like he’s overjoyed with being interviewed.😬
Yea I was thinking the same this seems odd and fishy
Someone needs to get to the bottom of this case it’s been going on unsolved for years. Her parents and brother have been put through the wringer being accused of killing her . If there is DNA then test it . She deserves justice and her family needs closure. Her mother died defending herself. May both rest in peace
HER MOTHER DIDN'T DIE DEFENDING HER. HER MOTHER DIED OF CANCER AND BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT DEFENDING HER SON. THAT'S ALL I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL IT, GUT FEELING AND ESP.
@@nancygragg3997 The mom obviously wrote the ransom note and she and her evil husband accomplice, and ringleader, obviously staged, and with help of government/police, covered everything up to keep their son and themselves out of jail. So you dont need a gut feeling to know who is guilty, there are many facts. Now they are probably going to frame another person using "DNA"! But DNA is another hoax our governments uses to convict whoever they want and free thier guilty friends and accomplices!
@@nancygragg3997 She died defending all the family.
People believed She John or Burke murdered their daughter/sister.
There are items that never have been DNA tested.
John Ramsey is pushing for these items to be tested.
Hopefully that will happen.
@@nancygragg3997John Ramsey has been fighting for years for the case to be turned over to another department to investigate and find out who killed his daughter before he dies. Patsy frequently talked about God according to people who knew her and she would have made a death bed confession before she died. She would not have wanted to die with that on her conscience. If Burke had killed Jon Bonet, John and Patsy would have known and John would not have been pushing for the Boulder Police Department to work harder to solve the case if he knew it would lead to his only remaining close family member, Burke.
I’m convinced it was Gary Oliva. There were reasons to believe he’d been in the Ramsey house before, and he’d have known the lay-out of the house, so had access to note pads and pens. I think he planned the murder Mark Vail said his former schoolmate Gary Oliva had some crazy obsession about art supplies and ropes. Many of his drawings in school were of nooses, and knots. Look at the items used to murder Jon Benet. The paintbrush was from Patsys art supply collection and he’d have found that easily in the house…He’d have had time to write that long note, and could have written it even before he killed Jon Bonet, then left the house quickly after killing her, leaving her parents to find the note. He was trying to lead them in a wrong direction. I’m convinced it was Gary Oliva.
Right now he’s in prison on pornography charges, serving a ten year sentence.
That poor little girl murdered by an evil monster!
Why didn’t this guy ever speak out after all this time? If the police didn’t listen to him, he could have gone to the papers, the media, any way to get this story out. And why would he want to stay in contact with someone who was mailing him hair, missing kid posters and child rape fantasies? I am so confused.
He’s been speaking since 2002 publicly
You keep your enemies close so they can’t hit you with their arrows.
He did to be honest from what I heard, just no one listened. I believe the police came to the determination that it wasn't him Idk. That handwriting looks very deliberately altered. imo.
It's not just you! 😂
He mailed him hair from missing kids supposedly, and he didn't call cops then?
Is this guy for real? I’m not really buying what he’s selling. Why is this coming out 30 years later?
This guy has been telling this same old story publicly for at least the last 7 years. 🙄
@@onesolvedmystery2274 This is the first I‘ve ever heard of him or this story.
@@dayinthelifeofmycat He still seems like just another weirdo clout chaser.
@@FionaAdoreRoseI’m not saying this is the answer.
But I feel like anyone is gonna seem like that at this point.
He's desperate for attention. Gtfooh
Let’s not forget that John Ramsey had already lost his older daughter (Elizabeth) in a car accident. That poor man.
P Leeeaaassse! You are so gullible
@@MissSusan1no, it is you tgat is gullible.
@@rifleman522 if I’m gullible because I believe children should not be mutilated and because I believe we should be controlling our border because I think food should be affordable and housing should be affordable then yeah I accept it. I’m gullible.
@@MissSusan1 I can’t say I disagree with you on children and the border, but what does that have to do with this case?
The moment they find who did this they owe a MASSIVE APOLOGY TO THIS POOR CHILD'S DEAD MOTHER. SERIOUSLY.
NOT SO! It was her lonely and VERY JEALOUS BROTHER. After all, Child Psychologist AJ Elliot stated-"The twisting of the rubber band with the pencil is exactly what a child would do"! As a matter of fact, Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey were EXTREMELY disgusted and very sick when they stated, "IT WAS NOT HER BROTHER, AND YOU WILL NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS"! The Ramseys were throwing up inside themselves with guilt and disgust at how they completely shed all their attention on Jonbenet while her brother was viciously jealous! Go figure?
@@wmccourtney2814 Not even remotely.
@dazzlingextremes389 I'm in total agreement.
That the crazy brother did it is more likely I believe.
Omg people.the family? WAS CLEARED! Every single one!
Is Olivia writing to him from prison? Prison mail is monitored. Nobody caught it? 🤔
Prison mail is monitored coming in not going out
Outgoing mail/lawyer communication isn't monitored, as a general rule, it violates a right to privacy, plus the manpower doesn't exist to do so, ingoing is opened and monitored for contraband and inappropriate content.
@@lills9990all inmate mail leaving any prison or jail is monitored, read through as that is where they find the information the inmate is seeking. Whether drugs or hits on people on the outside. Since 2000 all inmate correspondence is reviewed, opened, & sealed before going out. Any threats, harassment, in any letters isn’t sent, instead it goes to the wardens desk & is dealt with. They weren’t monitoring any jail communication unless they got legitimate information that someone was trying to sneak in contraband or threats to public. Since the 2000’s they know longer can receive even stamps, greeting cards, in the mail as they found actual drugs being put on the stamps & within the cards so they were banned & all mail going out is read for threats & contraband.
They didn’t care because they believed the parents were involved & they didn’t look at any other “suspects”. It wasn’t until the Ramsay’s hired their own investigators to find who did this to their daughter when they learned of Gary Oliva’s name. He was known to have lived or had a known address within a mile from her house when she was killed.
Only incoming mail is out going isn't just like the person said above too
I truly hope she can finaly get justice
If this guy went to the police, why wouldnt he know to contact the media and push this forward? It just seems weirdly odd.
Because contacting the media in 1996 was way more difficult... Mabye i don't know. But in 1996 with no internet I quess it would be more difficult...
Or even telling the family? That would have helped.
@@laurenehamilton453 The father of JonBenét said that this information was known to them. (Around 34:00 the father tells about it)
Something seems sketch with him.
@@kaydeecee8753 he seems very invested in the story telling and attention, it's weird.
The fact that he didn't call the police immediately after Olivia's first phone call to him is very perplexing. Why?
Don't they have DNA? Why are they even playing around with this?
Yes I believe they did I don’t understand what this is all about and why are they even entertaining this guy?
Yes! The last I heard, Mr Ramsey & his lawyer were trying to get the police to release the DNA so he could get it tested at a private forensics facility and he’d pay for it. They still wouldn’t release it!
John Ramsey has been trying to get the DNA tested. They won't release it to be tested.
Apparently the DNA was compromised?
Exactly.
How did this guy know the exact amount of the bonus check?
I wonder if he snooped in their mailbox. He lived 13 houses down.
Or if he had stalked by the house and overheard a conversation even?
I wished they would figure out this case. These parents where dragged threw the mud and it would be nice for the father and brother to get justice finally. Some closeure.
I can't believe people are still blaming the family!
It's obvious that they had something to do with it.
Had she lived, JonBenet would be 33 years old, maybe with a daughter of her own. So sad...
Justice for JonBenet Ramsey, Summer Wells, Michael Vaughn, Lyric & Elizabeth, Libby & Abby Elizabeth Montgomery & all the other missing & or murdered children!
Automatic DP! Take These Evils Out Of Society!
I wonder how many people know about Glenn Meyer. He was a tenant of the Barnhill's, the elderly couple that lived across the street from the Ramseys. The Barnhills took care of the JonBenet's dog and had a key to their front door so they could get their mail when they were out of town. Glen Meyer was living in the Barnhill's basement unbeknownst to the Ramseys. JonBenet would visit the Barnhills and play with her dog frequently. He is the man that crashed the Ramsey's Dec 23rd Christmas party saying he was worried about the elderly couple and had come to check on them. I think he came over for a couple reasons, jealousy that he wasn't invited and to tell JoBenet she was getting a secret visit from Santa Claus. That was the first time John became aware of his presence. Glen Meyer was laying low because he had some financial issues that he was hiding out from. There is a LOT MORE information about him but I will try to keep it short . He had access to the Ramsey home because of the (Barnhill's) key and knew the Ramsey's schedule well through the Barnhill's association. I think he entered the Ramsey home many times when they were away and lorded over the place, pretending it was his. He knew it well, he knew all about the bonus, he knew where JonBenet sleep and I even think he was in the house hiding many times when the Ramseys were home, It was like living in a different world from his own which was a bleak existence living in someone's basement. I think he was really envious of John and all his success not only great financial success but his beautiful family too. So he struck at the most vulnerable part of his wonderful life, just to knock him down a peg or two. The ransom note was addressed to Mr. Ramsey for a reason, he knew about the $118,000 bonus because he read John's mail, with Glenn being unstable it probably really set him off.
John's Christmas bonus was from the year before so it showed up on John’s paycheck every month in 1996.
I was watching an old movie one night and there was a kidnapping in it and when the ransom note was read I thought "this sounds familiar" It sounded very much like the one left at the Ramsy's almost to a T and I wondered what old movies would have been on TV that week in Boulder. I'd also like to point out Glenn couldn't" take JonBenet he had nowhere to take her, living in the Barnhill's basement.
One last thing, years after JonBenet's death there was an elderly lady in her 80's that lived a few doors down from the Ramseys that made a death bed confession that she had seen Glenn Meyer on the night of the murder walking away from the Ramsey home. She had been too afraid to come forward before, because Glenn was known to be a violent man and was characterized as being unstable.
This is just an opinion of some very knowledgeable interested citizens. You're welcome to ask questions.
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Meyer's ex-wife Charlotte Hey sure though he had something to do with it. Charlotte had already moved back to Indiana by the time of the crime & Glenn Meyer joined her there shortly after. There certainly appears to be more to that story IMO
There is someone on here regularly that has done deep research on this case an believe this man murdered JB when she screamed
Wait a minute, do you think Meyer and Oliva might have known each other? They sound like birds of a feather. In that case, Meyer's access to the house and information would have been available to Oliva. Maybe they even planned something together. @TheHaveHad
This makes more sense than any other theory so far. Hate to incriminate another innocent person though without proof.
Wow! That’s a lot of information.
How in the world has this never been solved .
Ever thought it could be a policeman from Boulder dept ? That will damage their department
My opinion, it was someone who work around the house for the family, but didn't work long for them, just enough time to learn a little about their finances and knows the inside of the house.
Remember the Ramsey's had a Christmas house tour in December. Patsy said over 200 people came in the house.
@@8luvbug I forgot about the house tour.
@@lisanancollas2330 Either that, or someone who found a way into the Ramsey Home, probably mostly through the basement window they mentioned, though it could have been even a door at the back of the house that was usually unlocked. I remember a time when people didn’t lock their doors like they do now, even in the 80’s and 90’s some people still did that…..Patsy was featured in the society pages of the newspaper fairly often, her husband was a wealthy businessman, and she was known in social circles as an artist. Plus Jon Benet was featured for winning pageants. Gary Oliva who is now a suspect had an obsession with art supplies, namely paint brushes, AND tying knots in rope. (The Garrote used to strangle the little girl?) His former schoolmate who went to art classes with him, remembered he was weird about his obsessions…,Gary reached out to him crying, the next day, saying he’d killed a little girl. That was before the former schoolmate even knew there’d been a murder. He reported it, but nothing ever came of it.
Police now suspect Oliva had been in the house several times before the day Jon Benet was murdered. He’d have known the maids day off, the family’s schedules, where all the art supplies, ropes or cords would have been, also notepads and pens. And I believe he probably found the check stub for the bonus check John had gotten. That’s how he’d have known to put that exact amount on the “ransom note”. There is WAY more evidence against Oliva than against anyone else. And to think the Boulder police department were given Oliva’s name right away, but they quickly released him, and didn’t consider him a suspect, even though the guy he confessed to said he did not want to be involved, but Oliva forced him to
be involved, by confessing to him. Gary Oliva was a loner at school but the classmate had treated him nicely, and that’s why he believes Gary reached out to him, instead of someone else. I truly believe that Gary Oliva killed Jon Benet and even fits the profile of what a sexual deviant would be like. When they caught up to him he was serving time for child pornography. But what he’d done to sweet 6 year old Jon-Benet and her family was even much worse than pornography, even though that’s perverted and disgusting, it’s just that he got away with murder for almost 30 years, that is, until now,
hopefully! 🙏🏻
Her poor mom and dad so persecuted for this horrible crime that it was so obvious an intruder did it.
Nothing in the ransom note was followed through with. Why was she found in her own home? This guy's DNA isn't in the house
If the family was innocent te father would not have tried to get them out of the city by private plane so soon after her death
@@17weyerkaiHow do you know his DNA wasn't in the house? The police won't even release the DNA to have it tested.
U wouldn't make a very good Detective...at all...
@@17weyerkaihuh? There was no dna testing in the home! The 1st detective that arrived Linda arndt told John ransey and his friends to search the home and that’s how they found Jon benet. There were friends and family in the house…no one secured the crime scene!
The man named Michael Vail said his former classmate Gary Oliva called him right after Jon Benet was murdered, a day or two later, sounding upset saying he had killed a little girl. At the time Michael didn’t know about the incident . But when he heard about the murder and the way Jon Benet had been killed, he remembered that Oliva had had a fascination with art supplies and ropes. Many of his paintings and drawings at school were of nooses, and knots.
There were also reasons to believe he’d been in the house before, and had learned the family’s schedules so knew when the house would be empty. If that happened he’d have known the layout of the home and would have known where pens and notepads were, and could have written the so called “ransom note” before the family arrived home. He could have planned the whole thing, and had the note ready to leave for them to find. Most likely to steer them in the wrong direction….Since the Ramseys were well known in their community they were often in the papers. The art brush used in the murder was from Patsys collection of art supplies. He got some kind of perverted pleasure from using something he loved to murder an innocent child.
That’s what these sicko’s are like!
Oliva is now in prison on unrelated charges of pornography, but I believe the Boulder police department completely dropped the ball and botched everything from the start. Otherwise Oliva would be in prison for life with no possibility of parole.
Vail, who says he never wanted to be involved, has been forced into it by Oliva. I believe Gary Oliva is guilty of killing Jon Benet, and her family members are innocent of this horrific crime.
@@lovestodesign not exactly correct. The guy called him the night she was murdered, before the news came out the next morning. He didn’t say he killed Jon Benet. He said he had hurt a little girl in Boulder.
@@rifleman522 Saying he “hurt a little girl” could definitely mean he killed a little girl, but he couldn’t bring himself to speak those words out loud. That’s not enough to convince me he didn’t kill Jon Benet. Maybe he planned to molest her, or maybe even actually kidnap her, but she started screaming or tried to escape and that’s when he panicked and killed her. He may have felt guilty and had to tell someone, and that’s why he called Michael, who said he reported it to police but even with the confession, they let Gary go as a suspect. I believe they were so sure it was a family member, even though there was DNA in the basement that didn’t belong to any of the Ramseys, that they didn’t
consider it may not have been the Ramseys at all. I think Gary Oliva is a viable suspect, judging from everything I’ve heard or read. I think there’s more evidence against Oliva than anyone else. And judging from the leads they were given, but never checked, they weren’t just inept, I’ve always wondered if Boulder Police were hiding something.
@@lovestodesign I agree.
Let me get this straight - so your former classmate was sending you out all kinds of weird things up until '96, like " hair of, from " and you were going to say " little kids ", and things got darker and he sent you " tape recordings of where he is simulating a r of a child ". So you just continued on through those " getting darker" years interacting and communicating with him back and forth ? What normal person would continue to pen pal with a person like Gary when he is sending you p3d stuff ? No normal person would. Any normal person would have informed LE immediately after the first " dark " thing you received.
That’s what I don’t understand. Why the hell would anyone be friends with someone like that?
From what his narrative is, he has been speaking publicly about all of it, just not taken seriously. I could be wrong though.
right! sounds like he has done this kinda stuff with him, theyre into the same things, speciallly knowing theyve known each other for years, i hope im not though
*hoping im wrong
Ahahaha, so all we know so far is that we suspect this dude ain't normal!
I never understood why they sexualized this little 6 year old kid. There’s no way I would ever allow my 6 year old child to be displayed in this seductive manner. Very weird! Highly inappropriate!
Any type of evidence should be taken as a great concern period . especially if it's a cold case they need to bring this person to justice
its sad that people make false confession just for fame. Our world is so crazy that we give horrible murders this much spot light. This case shock the nation and I remember when this happened, I myself was a small child. People we got to do better!
He's been saying the same thing for 27 years. The police department handling her case is a joke. They won't even test DNA when places have offered to do it for free etc. But they refuse help
@@IdLike2Apologize2AbsolutelyNo1there’s definitely something going on with that
I DON'T THINK HE DID IT FOR FAME. HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE OLD SCHOOLMATE SUDDENLY AFTER HE KILLED HER. MAYBE HE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO HELP HIM GET HIS JUST PUNISHMENT. THEY COULD FIND OUT IF HE KNOWS ENOUGH ABOUT THE CASE, BUT THE PROBLEM AS WE SEE WITH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, THEY LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. THERE IS NO SURPRISE TO CATCH THEM OFF GUARD.
@@IdLike2Apologize2AbsolutelyNo1It does sound like a cover up on the police departments' part. What do they have to lose by allowing DNA to be tested ?? Also, if this Gary Olivia did this to Jonbenet, he must have done this to other children in some fashion. It's time to see if there are other victims of this guy. While kids may have fun with playing " dress up" and all that, these pageants put pressure on the kids. All this competition,and the weirdos attracted to those events. There's a lot of strange things in Southern culture. Whether it's considered normal doesn't matter.
The spotlight is how cold cases are solved.
That family was put through pure hell. The Mother died before she got to see justice for her baby. 😢
THE MITHER DIED KNOWING SHE SAVED HER SON, THE MURDERER
The mother knew the truth
@@jblaze1336 you're just talking dumb ass nonsense. The police checked the DNA found on Benet to everyone in the family. The DNA wasn't a match to anyone.
@@jblaze1336no. That’s ridiculous.
@@MissSusan1no she did not. You’ve been buffaloed by the BPD.
I visited her grave in Marietta, GA. Very sad.
What’s sadder is people visiting her grave like they going to Graceland or Dollywood. Let that girl rest, you don’t even know her!!! 😲👎🏽
@@Cereal_kwillaI know right, that’s pretty creepy
Murder tourism is just gross!
What? 🙄
@@Cereal_kwilla I live nearby. I wasn’t a tourist. Visiting interesting cemeteries is a hobby for some. Atlanta actually has an active cemetery that is a city park. They do tours and such. Kenny Rogers is buried there.
It makes me sick seeing that little girl dressed like a woman strutting across a stage. Her mom groomed her.
The reason is they already had a suspect, her family, so they didn't look at anyone else.
Should have been sued for terrible work
This is the case that cost me a little bit of childhood innocence. I remember being a little girl and being like people can do this? 😢
Yeah, I remember seeing this as a kid and once you see her like that u never forget it. I remember it like yesterday I hope and pray we can now put her to rest peacefully with the technology we have with DNA and Gosh,poor Mr. Ramsey I hope he gets justice for his daughter before he passes. I’m sure that’s his one true wish.
I can relate... the Richard Speck case was the one that cost me my innocence, but this one I really want to see solved for her brother and father. ✝✝✝
peachspeaks: Adults should have shielded you from all of this. Children are not helped in any way by knowing of a child that was murdered. Boundaries.
@@sheilasmith7779 what about kids growing up in today's society? With social media etc.
@@katieb5707 Parenting will require considerably more monitoring of children. No cell phones or computers. No internet, limited TV. Live in a small town, home school, fill your home with books, and their days with activities. Family and friend around that share your values. As they grow older, increase interaction, contact and exposure.
I really can’t understand why waiting all these years. He could have gone public somehow with his story. Why now? Something here doesn’t make any sense at all. Handwriting similarity is not DNA proof so this is not real evidence. Come on!
I love to hear from that policewoman who was present inside the house of Ramsey on that horrible day, her statement made everybody in Boulder get confused and went after poor Ramsey's family.
Because she knew who killed JBR-the parents
She was incompetent and reckless with her words.
@@KellyDFlynn I don't believe that for one second. She was their golden child .They had no reason to kill her that I found.
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I would love to know an hear from the lady detective why she never thought house was a crime scene an let family an friends mix an ruin forensics an why she an hours earlier a cop walks right by the separate basement room door an never opens that door where JB was laying down dead an she tells john to go around again an look real good he finally opens the seperate basement room door an Carey's that dead girl upstairs. I heard she was scared when she saw that. She for her an the police there that day should have been completely embarrassed
I recall the police going after the Mother with such fervor that they blinded themselves to any other possibility.
I remember Gary being thrown into the light not too many years ago. He tried to tell people years ago that he was somehow involved and had a obsession with That Little Girl. I really hope it gets solved, i remember this case because of how huge it was when i was a kid
Not convinced but this one shook my world, the police work was horrible. I don't blame the parents for not cooperating with them.
@@polarbearsrus6980 Some of the worst Police Work and Investigation Work has stood out in this case since 96
For Patsy Ramsey, she died of cancer, and I’m sure being constantly accused of murdering your own child didn’t help. She died without knowing who killed her child.
She knew.
She died having helped cover it up.
The parents knew lmmfao! They knew their son did it and paid the Boulder Police Department off...
@@jennifermcgoldrick6323 she did not die, helping to cover anything up as you can see. There is clearly a more viable suspect. She died of cancer.
@@chas.5009 no, she did not
Anyone else see the classmate and think “ohhhh… you were one of them. That’s why you got the letters”
Somebody check that dude’s browser history 😬
YES. Immediate thoughts.
Yes birds of a feather flock together.
Yes and they sent cassette tapes to each other for years..hmmmm I wonder what stuff was on them, sure is weird.
Why haven't the authorities followed up with this? He was considered a suspect before
The classmate is creepy too!
Why would any mother want to dress their 6 year old child up to look like a 20 year old is just sick. That is not right. There is really something wrong with people who do something like that.
That family went through hell. They were accused of it and it was disgusting how they were all treated. Her brother did an interview and he was ridiculed called weird. What hes been through would make anyone " weird" their mother passed because of all this. It was wrong.
Nope, You're just an american. Not capable of critical thinking. It is obvious that the mother killed her beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I agree!! It is wrong the way the family was treated!! And it is very sad!!!!
the family covered it up because they thought it was their son. the pefophile was reported the day after she died but the police were stupid, he was reported twice
@@WalczykThey did not cover it up. Says who? The evidence is the truth. This whole thing was driven by misinformation and hype to get somebody, anybody. I would ask maybe that they get Parabon Labs in to do DNA.
This guy is a lying nut job. It's pretty obvious.
I'm amazed at the lack of discernment the public exhibits.
We all know who killed Jon Benet.
I’ve always found it very strange that the amount requested in JonBenét’s ransom note of $118,000 just so happened to be the exact same amount of John Ramsey’s X-mas Bonus that year & the handwriting of the ransom note also happened to be a very close match of Patsy Ramsey’s. No one has been able to explain these things over the past decades that I’ve seen as of yet…
I agree how would this monster know how much JR got for his Christmas bonus??? and the handwriting???
I could swear I read somewhere and also in an interview with John that the amount of the bonus was actually published in the local paper and he told them he was uncomfortable with that.
True an I can't believe a huge majority thi is Patsy was stupid enough to use John's bonus amount as ransom an that she wrote it.
Had the same feelings ? How did he know? Keep thinking somehow they new each other. Maybe a janitor at his work or handyman. That amount is personal.
What’s to say he didn’t practice the writing of the letters. The ransom note has been shown numerous time. This guy has nothing but time to practice.
very true!
I thought so too. Possible. But still very difficult to maintain that degree of concurrence across so many letters.
That’s true. I think the person that did this has been in their home before. The dad is asking for them to use genealogical DNA testing. The DNA on her panties matches the DNA on her pajama pants so the theory that it’s from the manufacturer can’t be true. Hopefully they’ll solve this before the perpetrator and her dad die.
Yes, but they have years worth of letters.
I think the fact that he called before the case reached the news and was on that street and loved knots and kids and strangling are more important.
That poor mother died of cancer never knowing...and the father is so broken still.... 1:04
Happy belated birthday JonBenet in heaven. Hard to believe that you would have been 33 years old. 🕊️♥️
Breaks my heart she desrves justice
💛🌹🙏🏼🌹💛
OMG! Why hasn’t the police in Colorado ACT & do something about all this evidence!?!
Seam like someone new some at the police department
Sorry guys, not convincing…🥴
I just can't believe he called the police so long ago and nothing was done. Sad.
I feel so sorry for that family. He lost his daughter and then he lost his wife. The police and reporters have drove that family unmerchfully. Totally inhumane.
@@BeautifulPlanet27 yes but I still feel sorry for the father, he is only human and to lose two children is unthinkable.
@@BeautifulPlanet27 you know, NOTHING just like the rest of us🙄
NOT SO! It was her lonely and VERY JEALOUS BROTHER. After all, Child Psychologist AJ Elliot stated-"The twisting of the rubber band with the pencil is exactly what a child would do"! As a matter of fact, Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey were EXTREMELY disgusted and very sick when they stated, "IT WAS NOT HER BROTHER, AND YOU WILL NOT ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS"! The Ramseys were throwing up inside themselves with guilt and disgust at how they completely shed all their attention on Jonbenet while her brother was viciously jealous! Go figure?
I hope one day this case will truly be solved so that her little soul may finally rest. 🙏🏻❤️
I want to believe the family is innocent but try as I might I can't get past the ransom note. I'm not saying I believe one way or other just saying I can't entirely let that go. I've been following this case since it happened back in the nineties. Such a perplexing case. That sweet baby girl,... I just can't forget her. :(
I know how hard the is to want this family not guilty of this terrible death, but is still a case that they could be involve! 😢
Same and also, that she was found in her house is really weird to me. Then what was the point of the ransom letter? So odd.
@@leesacoles9154 yes, this case might never be done right with the local people doing without help by FBI!
Anyone else creeped out about the high school friend? Just me? I want to know what was in the tapes he sent the suspect. What’s with the “bizarre” writings they shared? It seems like code.
He does give off "slimey" vibes himself. Definitely looking for fame.
Who knows bout him ether! I’d be checking him too!
@@CarrieBishop-n1f right, we all know they share the details within groups.
@@AbiFranklin definitely
Sent cassette tapes to each other...odd
Wow! 😳 Thank you Vinnie 👏 Excellent panel! There's no more excuses, the amount of incompetence involving how this case was miss handed is beyond Comprehension🤦♀️ and what they put this family through is a crime in itself! It terrifies me to think how many more victims there may have been By not pursuing all the leads and evidence to make an arrest, Instead, they haunted the family. The man confessed right after he did it. And they were told multiple times about this monster. And they continued let him roam the streets to prey on innocent small children, so disgusting what they did!! 😢
Im not sure anyone else lost they're child. The thing that gets me is they didn't cooperate with the police an then where on a news show . They said they would go to police station an have a interview but ....they where on the news first . Another thing the picture cvs got sued for I noticed Jon benet still had the bow in her hair. Sad . Then the call my pilot ...still wanted to go to his Christmas
I agree with you!!! Very sloppy Police and investigation. They weren't qualified. For all we know it could have been a political officer?
@@devong7124 it's is suspicious they left one female officer there when she called for help they had no one respond an even the ambulance drove right by . The officer stated she felt like she was in Disneyland. So very sad .
@@peggypasson8794she was nuts.
The Ramsay's did what ever they wanted from the start, u got money, you own the cops
to dress her like a grown woman and parade her, should been a crime.
Im gonna catch hate for this comment, but i still feel patsy knew more than she led on.
And the charade continues..... Cant believe this guy is actually getting coverage for this hoax.. The killer lived in that house end of story
It feels like at least once a decade the media starts obsessing over a potential suspect for her murder, and it's always presented as sensational with bizarre details that never pan out as being fact.
Yep. The brother. Parents covered.
@@suzannakoizumi8605I think the same thing..
This guy peddled this story on talk shows 20 years ago. So just because this guy says Gary Oliva called him 6 hours before JBR's death was in the news doesn't make it true lol. No different than John Mark Car's bogus confession. These clowns will do anything for attention and fame. Same with those fake handwriting experts. Lets see their certifications and credentials. Cena Wong said there is no 1-5 scale when it comes to handwriting analysis. All of this is BS.
@@suzannakoizumi8605 No doubt it was Burke and it was all over a bowl of pineapples that they both loved to eat as a snack
Everything this family was put through and went through. Poor Patsy. They blamed and treated each one of them as the suspect. Rip in peace to all of the ones that are gone. 🙏✝️
She exploited her daughter
Don't feel bad for that family. They killed thier innocent daughter and covered it up.
@@candy9986do more research
@@Sharpstoneddo more research
Give me a break everyone knows she had something to do with Jon Benet’s death
Totally discusting as a black man I can’t understand how if I confessed they’d be at my door in record time but no one is even listening to this man who had a picture of her in his wallet, W.T.F., he says he did it, can someone take a look into this guy, who supposedly eats children!!!
Did the DNA found on her match his? Also, Pathologists know if a skull fracture is from a fall or a bashing from a person. He said she fell…. That can be proven to be truth or a lie, if a lie, he is bogus.
And with all his money, why didn’t he just hire his own private investigator if he had Gary’s name? Makes no sense whatsoever!
The Boulder police won’t test the DNA. Cece Moore can’t even have access to it.
Son did it..with a flashlight, sitting right there. He didn't hire anyone..he knows the guilty..son and him fir desecration of her body...the cop was alone with the father when she was found...she knew then..it was not a kidnapping..had her hand on her gun ready..his evil look she said gave her chills.
Rot father and son I say
I mean Brian in the Gabbie case write a note trying to downplay what happened. Tried to say it was to show her mercy and she wanted him to. Sometimes they do that. Try to downplay their actions.
He has had and does have a private investigator. John Ramsey has been trying to get Boulder PD to send the DNA to an independent genetic genealogy lab for years now, and has even offered to pay the bill. Yet, BPD refuses to do so without so much as giving a reason. That's because they don't have a legitimate reason not to do so. Boulder PD is known for being sketchy (and not just because of the Ramsey case).
@@xenophagia That's not accurate regarding the DNA, it's only a small amount, and it cannot be matched to anyone due to being mixed up, and not enough genetic markers, until the technology comes along to render it useful, it will sit.
Sounds familiar. I was attacked by Dahmer. Face to face in a mall Black Friday. 165lb spanish teen. Called cops on a home phone. They said go to Racine wi police station. I lived in Kenosha w/o a car, money, maps. Before cellphones, google maps. Kick the can. I called Oprah call center in Chicago. They had money to help get me to help capture him before he was busted. Calling hotlines don't work
Months before Edwards was attacked
Wow
I’m so sorry that happened to you. 😔
Wow buddy I’m so sorry that happened to you. I’m so glad you’re still with us 🖤
All the usual. Grab my bicep, thrown into a mall bank window. Told to follow outside. To a bus stop back to Milw. Upon my fight and his releasing of my arm. He switched up. Hey I want to buy you a drink. Come sit down in center of mall bench. He showed me his license. I said wtf I want this. You need to be arrested for grabbing me. Or an ass kicking by me. A golden glove boxer. But Im nice. He said he was scared. And the cops would kill him for what he has done. I replied, if its bad what you have done, the prisoners inside will kill you way before the cops. Truth came out yrs later. He said he had troubles and doesnt know how to stop being aggressive. And his dad will be mad at him. The way he turned out. I told him search your soul. You can always change. I was walking in triangle form with 2 friends. I was the rear teen walking behind 2 friends. I begged them to whoop this guys ass as he walked out of Regency mall. Towards the Target bus stop in Racine Wi. The only friend who cared was when we got back to Kenosha. The friend waiting for our return, in Kenosha would of helped detain him he said. Wish we jumped him. Id wouldve taken his ID. I already had it. And report to police. Praying for a mall video of his attack, we work better in teams. I needed my friends. But I had a soft heart at the wrong time. The driver said he was going to leave me. 15mi from home. With a lunatic lurking by the bus stop. In front of lots of people. I didnt need a criminal record. As he only secured my arm against him. Nobody seen that. We know 6ft+ tall, light hair, manly squeeze, glossy eyes. And *seeing the deameanor of fear upon arrested. Not a wild lunatic. The walk and lean when grabbing a court chair. Characteristics. And telling reporters he thought the cops would kill him in the arrest. Zero criminal record type of response's. Its him! Boxers go hours without drinking water. Thank god.
When parents DRESS UP their toddlers as 25 year old woman. IS SO SICK N DISGUSTING ... THAT'S CHILD ABUSE. !
Wow, some of the theories in the comments are ridiculous. This little girl was NOT killed by her family. Not her brother, mother or father. You can see the pain in their eyes, that cannot be faked. Shame on the ones who made this traumatized family suffer even more with tge insane theories and blatantly accusing them. I can't begin to imagine my chaotic state of mind, looking for my missing child. I'd make mistakes too. This man did it, the story of him doing it makes sense. Lay off blaming the family, people, they have endured so, so, so much pain without your help. ✌as for the handwriting...it's nearly identical. It's somewhat chaotic (leaning in various directions), the small A's are the same (not many people write their A's like that), and that note left at the Ramsey's was written in a state of mind so it's a bit sloppier and hurried, but there is no doubt in my mind they are both written by the same person.