New Confession to JonBenet Ramsey Murder
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- NEW DEVELOPMENTS: Who killed JonBenet Ramsey? Convicted pedophile Gary Oliva allegedly admitted to having an 'obsession' with the child beauty queen and to the 1996 killing in letters to a former classmate. #CourtTV What do YOU think?
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personally, I'd like to know why the Boulder police never looked outside the basement window for footprints in the snow where the suitcase was moved to just below the window?!? I'm willing to bet a handful of those law enforcement agents are hunters. So disheartening that all of those "Professionals" didn't conduct a proper search, and/or follow up with the phone call!!!
@WarriorGirl_113 this kind of protection seams to be special for the rich. The 1990s had a lot of rich privilege going on.
@@ediecook8491Dude with a church mailbox, doesn't seem very flush to me?
@@WarriorGirl_113 yes outside Look around house but saw broke windows
@@WarriorGirl_113 or the wine cellar
This case was severely mishandled by the Colorado police, they contaminated the crime scene so many times. I continue to pray that this case is finally solved this poor child and her mother dying before she can get real answers it’s just so heartbreaking.
The cops dropped the ball so incredibly. They let Patsy get away with murder. They let the family leave the house with massive amounts of evidence. No one was in that house except four family members. Patsy killed her own daughter, it's unbelievable that she escaped justice.
Her mother knew and covered up for the sexual abuse found in her autopsy..look into it more. Something is not right in that home
BOULDER police.
Totally agree.
@@adrialee8149 I agree, her mother strikes me as suspicious, evil and mentally sick. I think it is highly sick and abnormal for her mother to parade her sweet, little innocent daughter around in those pageants to look like a prostitute in front of perverts too. She should have been, jump roping, playing with barbie dolls, learning to take care of animals and making mud pies, getting educated like other normal girls do. That case is so corrupt and sick, so evil! I pray to God; God will reveal the real truth and bring justice to JonBenet. 🙏🙏
Terrible police work! Same thing happened to my family. My half brother who lives with his dad, his dad tried to kill him by shooting at him, he was drunk and he missed, was arrested and taken to jail. They didn’t take his guns. They let him out two days later. He shot my brother twice in the head, wrote a suicide note. Waited an hour and then called 911. They utterly destroyed the scene, because he wasn’t dead yet and was taken to the hospital. Despite it so obviously being him murdering him they admitted that they didn’t have enough evidence and didn’t even pursue it at all and wrote it off as a suicide. Never trust the police again after that. This murderer is walking around now Scott free
that is just awful. i hope you find justice and peace someday.
Jesus! I’m so sorry. I can’t even imagine what you’ve been going through. That’s absolutely insane. There are no words. What state did this happen in?
@@carriew92 paradise, California
@@waterurplants3767 thank you
I hope you name and shame the father. Do not let him hide away like a cockroach. I would reach out to local news stations and try and get someone to shine some light on the story
Sick how these grown men want to take responsibility for this little girls death so bad…..
Exactly, the Hostage letter ? If she was already gone and fell why make a letter ? Then how was he able to repeatedly return to the house and access the home with a search being started by the parents cleared the house ,then a letter is found ,then her body shows up . Nope total BS
@LionsNotSheep80 Agree, 100%
Remember that loon that claimed responsibility and was extradited from Thailand... so many freaks want to take the credit. Burke did it. It was an accident... end of story. Pointless crime porn piece from CTV. Kinda sick actually.
@@TheVoid_500who write two page ransom letter it doesn't add up ..inside job. Yep I said it ...
@@TheVoid_500 He snatched her from the bedroom, left the pre-written letter on the stairs on the way down, raped or tried to sexually assault her down stairs before leaving, and accidently killed her during the sexual assault. He just left her down stairs. She was dead, there was no need to take the body. He totally intended to kidnap her and keep her alive. Thats why that prewritten letter talks about kidnapping.
from the sounds of this, it seems that the Boulder, Colorado POLICE Department should all be behind bars for the terrible way they have handled this case.
The police mishandled this from the beginning. This is what the family has been saying all along and no one believed them. How horrifying.
And still happens in 2023
That was also the conclusion of CS detective Joe Kenda, who refused to be involved.
I feel so sad for Patty. It literally made her cancer come back and killed her. She adored that little girl.
Oh ya that lady detective, she’s probably still on the force
I absolutely believed the family
If this is true, why did it take this long for this to come to light? How sad. I hope she gets the justice she finally deserves.
Exactly 💯
its not true.
They tested his DNA in 2000 and it was not a match. So they did look into him, according to a news article.
I smell a rat
Because the investigation was royally botched regardless of who is guilty.
Breaks my heart every time I see a child murdered or any case unsolved like this
There is a killer but it's not this felon. It's a different guy. This is like the wierdo they found in PI 12 years ago. That guy's DNA was not on scene or a match.
You see children be murderer?
@@rasheed9705 I don't think they meant literally, they see as we do on news, internet...
It's not unsolved. They know who did it. The mom did it.
@@gutenbird they don't know for sure which parent did it, but to think they had no involvement is laughable at best.
I still remember when this happened like it was yesterday. The parents ended up moving near my hometown in Michigan and living there. Hope this beautiful baby girl gets her justice
Can’t believe this one never got solved.
This mess is hard to believe.
Just another thing to start gossip 🤦♀️
cover up.
The boulder police is to one to blame!
Many cases back then haven’t
I still think the parents covered for the brother
He might have had an "obsession," but he also needed to understand the layout of this home, and which bedroom was hers. Also, in the ransom letter, it asks the exact amount of her father's bonus money. Only an insider, would have knowledge of these details!
Plus the fact that they found "practice letters". What kidnapper does that?
Handwriting on ransom note matched the mother's
Perhaps he found John's paycheck stub as he was drafting the ransom note and thought it was nice figure.
Occam's Razor: Burke accidentally killed her; Patsy covered it up. Hard to say whether or not John would have been in the know.
I think it was someone who had gotten into the house before, hidden somewhere even while they were home, listening, and snooped around while they were gone. He either heard them talking about the check, or saw it for himself.
If she “slipped and cracked her head and died,” why was there a garrote found around her neck?
It was part of the staging made by her parents to make it look like it was an intruder, this guy is just another clout chaser.
@@MiraculousAngelTarotThat is stupid.
@@MiraculousAngelTarot Nope, it was how the person who killed her, killed her. Her parents didn't do it. There was no reason for them to have done it.
It's B.S.
@@MiraculousAngelTarot👍💯
Still breaks my heart. I just don’t understand why humans are so evil
Neither do I...I ask myself these questions every day and that includes evil family members 😭
Easy, it's because evil is in our DNA.
I was 15 when this happened. My mom and I were glued to this story and we were, so mad how the police just botched this.
It wasn't "botched." This was intentional.
Nobody has solved this.@@GameChanger597
But I have my theories.@@GameChanger597
Total. The father was a LAWYER, an INFLUENTIAL man, he MANIPULATED EVERYTHING and high command of the POLICE HELPED THEM, ALL CORRUPTION
What person would spend time writing a three page ransom letter in the home they broke into with everyone there??
Exactly
It was the father
And use the same wording the Mom was known for using and the same handwriting style.
The killer was in the house long before the Ramseys got home from the party.
The killer was in the house for hours while the Ramseys were away at a Christmas party.
I hope the person that committed this horrible act is found before John passes away .Patsy was so tormented by this and left this world not knowing who did this to her baby girl .God bless this family they have suffered and God bless ALL the families that have had to endure the same ,
Precisely
If she didn't know why did she wrote a fake ramson note?
John and Patsy are responsible for her death...either directly or indirectly
Oh please. The parents did it.
john will face the consequences eventually.
I was five, same age as her.
I also wanted to do pageants and this case actually made my parents change their minds about me participating. I didn’t get it then, but at 33 and a mother myself now, I do.
Too bad it was her brother. All that pageant $ you missed out on!! :)
Your parents brought you up well. 🎉
Child beauty pageants are grotesque and should be illegal. Sexualing children is one step before child trafficking. It is gross and yet popular and quite common in red states where good Christian parents scream about abortion, birth control, pedophilia and are in favor of book banning. It's bizzare and so hypocritical.
@@debbie9929Idk about red states ( you may be right), but I agree it is grotesque. They parade babies around like they are grown woman.
I pray that the police department expresses publicly, how they messed up and how they allowed this man to be free- and the terrible trauma that he caused this family, including the police department!!!!
He didn't do it, he's just another pedo freak who wants attention for one deranged reason or another.
How do we know it's not ANOTHER BS FALSE CONFESSION, FOR PUBLICITY?
You are never going to see any police department apologize for anything. They would rather convict an innocent person than admit being wrong...We are watching it again with the Idaho 4 case....I would like to think not all departments are bad but when you see people that have spent decades in prison or were put to death ....tunnel vision
I doubt he did it. These weirdos have lied about doing it for years. Psychopaths
It’s a false confession.
Please Father, give this family justice. They lived through Hell and then got blamed for the Hell. Absolute travesty. Poor baby suffered and then her loving mother gets blamed because people didn’t like her. Gets cancer twice, died with people blaming her falsely. Most upsetting case of public opinion courts I’ve ever seen.
Amen 🙏🏼
Burke did it
@@Sheskisprove it
@@Sheskishe can sue you over that. He has before. That’s libelous.
How about how long everyone blamed the poor brother... who is all screwed up today because of this whole case... so awful...
You always hear how law enforcement tends to focus on who they believe did it and not look elsewhere but it’s really unfathomable how they don’t explore other tips. What if this man killed other kids after all these years free? They really need to re-educate some police departments.
Especially since he admitted to it early on.
Yep! They had tunnel vision focused on the parents in this case. Frustrating & sad.
It's unfathomable to you that cops are worthless? Did you just get born yesterday?
Ya think 🤔?
@@brandybiscoff9685 I think it was because of that original detective on the seen who was certain the father did it, with no proof. The investigation turned into a witch hunt because of that and very unprofessionally done in the beginning.
That 3 page ransom note has always be a sticking point. Details in the note expressed facts known by very few. What stranger takes the time to write a 3 page, single spaced ransom note? Why would you even write a note and leave the child's body in the basement?
That was obvious day 1, detective school. Someone in house wrote the note or someone who knew them well. To easy to figure out in was 1 or the other
The note was in the mothers hand writing
@@NatLaFranco no , he was suspected but the fbi released the files afyer the parents death and it was her handwriting. Even though they say there was not enough evidence to prosecute at the time. ..you know about santa, yeah?
@@NatLaFrancomore likely it was the mother and father involved
@@twistedbuddhaha That has never been proven.
Well, have they compared confession letters to the ransom note??? Can't believe Vinny and cast have not brought this up.
This channel is first of all about sensationalism, always.
To get viewers.
My thoughts as well.
Excellent question.
This isn't even new like the title says. He confessed over 4 years ago.
If I remember correctly, the cause of death was the use of a garrote, not bloody head injury. That's why they're not paying attention to his confession.
Right and this person was told this confession he told his friend happened that day or that week … he’s just fantasizing a story he wasn’t there
UltImately, the head trauma yes, but the garrote is what took her to her near-death state, by accident, supposedly. But not from a slip or fall & head spilt - unless she fell on an object shaped like a “flashlight”? Or something like that so… doesn’t compute anyway iMO.
Just a correction in your statement @findingdimes: Autopsy report released in July 1997, her skull was fractured by a vicious blow to the head and she may have been sexually assaulted before being strangled, according to the Associated Press.
So this guy was so upset that he called a friend crying so hard he was barely able to catch his breath...
*Yet he was calm enough to write a practice ransom note and then a real note in the house!*
Right, good point. His confession means NOTHING. People confess to all kinds of things.
@@mitchelrowe7363 mentally unbalanced people arent always quiite rational. Obviously.
If ever there was a warning to parents about exploiting pretty young girls in beauty pageants, this is it.
Incredibly sad to see that she was so sexualized from an early age in the first place! Mothers need to stop doing this to their baby girls!!!!!
Parents shouldn’t be doing that to there kids in the first place. Being a kid is supposed to be fun playing with friends at the park not in a beauty pageant.
And this was back in 1996, nowadays many parents post their children's lives online, exposing their homes and personal details. Aren't they worried about predators? For instance, there's an "influencer" on TikTok who
deliberately posts sexualized images of her daughter for more views and money. It's disturbing, and no one is intervening. She posted a video of her toddler eating a cucumber and that’s the video that has more views 🤯 thousands of grown ass men liked and saved that video, it’s absolutely appalling, the mother is purposely posting this type of content for these predators. Back in the day they had to go on the dark web but nowadays they can simply log into any social media and have direct access to everyone’s children. I don’t even have children myself but I am dead scared about these things.
Seeing her photos on the tabloids while waiting in line at the grocery store is one of my earliest memories.. and continues to this day.. I am 34 now. Her death is what made me realize that I was born into a dangerous place.
I am 37 now. I remember when my parents heavily discussed it with the relatives while all of us children and cousins were running around and playing. I was 9 then and seeing her photos everywhere
There's only one remedy for the sin we see in the world around us and that is trust in the Lord Jesus Christ; he paid for the sins of the world so that you can have eternal life in him!
Same.
I was a couple years older than you but I remember seeing her face on all the tabloids at the grocery store while waiting in line too. I remember thinking she was so pretty and fancy and I asked my mom if I could wear makeup, like her. I didn't really understand that she was a murder victim or that there are people out there that murder 6 year old girls. My mom became kind of horrified and alarmed and angry when I asked the question about makeup prompted by Jon Benet Ramsey's picture. I didn't know why at the time, but thinking back on it now- for a mother, it was probably just so frightening to think that that literally actually happens to people's daughters and to then have your own little daughter, the same age, expressing a desire to emulate the appearance of the poor girl that the whole world knows was just murdered... It probably hit my mother in that moment just how innocent and vulnerable I was
Brother or mother. Enough said. No kidnapper writes a 3 page ransom letter.
You don’t know that
i can see how someone whos mentaly retarded and vicious criminal would do it. But no DNA or some evidence of another person present to support it? Not likely
Burke
@@carolinacardenas7681 14 days shy of 10.
And no kindapper 'doesn't kidnap' their victim, and demand a ransom for someone who isn't even their captive.
This is deeply concerning how the boulder police dept don't care to solve her case because they fell out with the parents! They should at least see if the man's confession letters hand writing matches the handwriting in the letter found at their original home! This is so sad she deserves justice!🙏
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@@dominiquexo4772 not sure what part of it is funny
@@Skurwysyna the statement
If you believe this story now
@@dominiquexo4772 yeah little girl’s unsolved homicide is so hilarious 😒
The letter in the house still doesn't make much sense. She wasn't kidnapped. Also, this guy says she slipped and her head split in two, yet she was actually strangled. Nothing really makes sense. The whole family is weird.
I Think someone is covering up for somebody else.The Truth will come too light one day we all will see
I remember when this happened. My parents had it on the news watching for any new information. I was 10yrs old and that was the first time I really realized there were people that hurt kids like me. Everyone talked about it and everyone had different opinions. Its truly heartbreaking that little girl hasn't gotten justice yet and sad that her poor mother passed without knowing who done it. As a mother myself, i believe that the pain of losing her child like that and not knowing anything year after year put her in her grave.
The vast majority of murder victims know their murderer, the fact you actually think that her parents were not involved just means you have maybe 1/2 a braincell knocking around in that empty head of yours, just enough to type that drivel you would call a comment.
I agree. I think the murder of her little girl right there under her nose in the same house was too much for the mother. Some people lose the will to live after a tragedy like this.
People need to start talking about it between May and June 30 plus kids missing in Texas mostly 14. -17 year olds boys and girls
The police were incompetent. They really really screwed up the entire case and accused the parents of raping and killing her. I think it was the neighbor. But they were so adamant that the parents did it that they didn't even investigate anyone else.
@@junearden8284 it should be taken into account that with that age range the most likely explanation is kids running away from home. Every case obviously needs to be exhaustively investigated of course just wanted to point that out.
It was an accident? If the guy was in their house for ANY reason, it was no accident.
Absolutely! If he claims an accident, it’s because she died before he was done with her! 😡
Gay Oliva took lie detector by police
Another person to he was a teacher lie detector too
lie detectors aren’t worth anything
How did the person get their house
He wasn't.
Wasn't the pen and paper used for the "ransom note" found in the house.. so someone killed her, wrote the ransom note inside the house and left? I still believe the theory that the brother accidentally killed her and the parents had to cover everything up to protect their only living child
I too believe it was her brother. Pineapple was found in her stomach but they said she didn't eat any. They also said the brother wasn't there but he was heard on the tape. I believe that he did it. I've always thought that.
My mom always thought it was the brother and she had a sixth sense about these type of things. I think it's possible because that's the only way the two parents would have came together for the cover up.
Why doesn’t his dna match.he didn’t do it.
Exactly
@@lynnsmith4
it makes more sense than anything else
The Bolder Police should be sued for not investigating this at the time and for rail roading the mother!
Agree!
They investigated over a hundred people, including several people more than once. The Ramseys accused just about everybody in Boulder at the time. A small town police department only has so many resources at it's disposal.
Let's not diminish the light from people who think it's perfectly fine to dress their 5-8 daughters up like mature women, knowing full well there are plenty of men with no age barrier. Just the act in it of itself is absolutely mind boggling, to dress your little one up as a little hussy - how depraved are you ?
It is how mom was raised and she was Miss West Virginia.
@@peachesdixon7567too bad for her
It's absolutely gross
Judge not least yeah be judged
Exactly! Many people forget that the parents were perfectly fine with parading their daughter as an adult. This poor child was most likely sexually abused. Maybe there are other, high profile people involved in this case.
Such a sad case! Her life was cut so short!! Just unacceptable how the case still isn’t solved!
It's solved. Just no one was arrested. The police know the mom did it. It's not even that debatable.
@@gutenbirdhow exactly did the mother do it?
@@aleciahyman4426 The mother wrote the ransom note. She committed the killing. She never changed her clothes or her make up. Her notebook. Her pen. Her paint brush used to choke her daughter. Once you get to the point that the mother wrote the ransom note, it's not too difficult to figure out that she was the killer and did it all by herself.
@@rexterrier1 OK. Still believing the nonsense? I guess the kid just did a slip trip and fall into choking herself to death. Or maybe she faked her death.
@@gutenbird The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. If you’re actually a tax payer, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
Did he have enough intimate details about the family to write that extremely long suspicious "ransom" letter? You have samples of his handwriting. Is it a match? Yes or no. Whoever wrote the ransom letter was not a stranger. It was either family or a family friend.
Or staff friend or relative ?
....hiding out in the basement of their mansion, going through their things when they weren't there. All kinds of possibilities.
The handwriting experts point to the mother.
It could have been someone stalking the family and Jonbenet. If he was frequently in the area it's a possibility.
The Ramsey defenders try to rewrite history or they simply are smoking the propaganda put out by the Ramseys but nearly 100 persons had their handwriting examined during this investigation and it was only one person who could not be exonerated. Patsy. The Ramsey freaks will tell you that the experts exonerated her because perhaps that is what they read or heard somewhere but that is not the case. None of the 4 original handwriting experts could exclude her. Now remember, the person who wrote the note was obviously attempting to disguise their handwriting and still they couldn't exclude her. That is very significant.
I stood behind Patsy Ramsey at the grocery store a week after this happened. She looked very sad and distraught. She was dressed in all black.
But what about the odd ransom note, that knew so much about the family, even
asking for the Dad's bonus as ransom ($118,000). The note was written on stationary from the house....?
could have been an inside job
@@courtneyboudreau4284 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@bethryan9077 Of course, no highly ignorant person knows what actually happenned any better than you do.
And in patsy’s handwriting and spent so much time in the house abusing and killing the child and all that time starting a ransom note then threw the first one away and started another ransom note. The parents did and the grand jury indicted them. But the lousy DA wouldn’t file charges
So sad, you can see how heavily medicaided the mom was trying to deal with her loss
It’s called guilt, and regret. Her little rich life was never gonna be the same, and Burke blew it. I don’t feel too bad, after she overkilled JonBenet and wrote the note.
@@ChannelHandle143 I hope you are not a Christian. Bearing false witness is a mortal sin. You have to prove what you say.
God said, let there be light. And the Ramseys were glowing with guilt. I hope you’re not like Lou Smit, to just let other Christians get away with murder because they’re in the club.
@@ChannelHandle143Mr. Smit worked until his days’ end to solve this case. It became his life’s mission. How dare you.
@@ChannelHandle143, you are ignorant.
When you have a mix of police incompetence and the inability and the lack of interest to solve the crime, sounds like the culprit is connected to the PD.
I wouldn't doubt it. It's what I thought
I love watching anything true crime related , but by no means I'm an expert lol but the 3 page ransom "letter" had to immediately send up red flags 😂
With the amount of unsolved murders out there , everyone has a murderer in their neighborhood , rich, middle or poor
Murders outside of gang-on-gang violence and drug dealers are very rare, per capita, even in dangerous cities. So no, everyone does NOT have a murderer in their neighborhood 🙄 There has never been a murder in my town, ever.
They’re never going to “find” the killer when the killer is the one looking & doing interviews 😂🙄 smh they’ll pay in the afterlife.
I think it’s sinister that John continues to “give interviews” - still protecting the family.
Dna cleared the Family recently it will never be solved if the keep focusing on the parents and burk 🤦🏻♂️
I think burk killled her
I was watching a documentary called “south park” and they proved it was “some Hispanic guy”
No way that man could write a letter like the one that was found
How on earth would u know? That's impossible for anyone but the friend who was told on the phone and in letters FROM PRISON lol seriously explain how u... would know!
@@terrarayner8766it’s simple: this person and all the other random people online who know better than the police get special access to the case files so they’re able to solve it in five minutes. 😂
@@terrarayner8766 R you that friend why does it bother you so much is he related to you maybe you can let us know how he could
Patsy is completely loaded.
Surely her doctor gave her medication . I don't even take advil but if my daughter had been murdered I would consider taking something to help deal with such a terrible ordeal.
If you watch a lot of cases played out on shows like Dateline, 20/20, and 48 Hours, you clearly see how inept and incompetent many law enforcement officers truly are, from botched investigation to horrible interrogation techniques. Many law enforcement officers aren’t the sharpest tacks in the box and are one step above gym teachers who want to teach but aren’t smart enough to teach any academic classes. The law enforcement agencies that investigated this case are in this class.
But have you ever thought that those shows are usually biased??? They air shows for money! And they get money from advertising. So they are not reliable sources.
This is Shameful.
Did they( the police) really botch it?? Or did the Ramseys PUSH they did.
Have you heard from a few of the investigators that worked this case?
The cops WERE CALLED TO A KIDNAPPING!! NOT A CHILD MURDERED IN HER BASEMNET!!
#1 Reason they ALLOWED the Ramseys to have "Friends" over to give emotional support!
EVERYONE THOUGHT "According to the, Randsome note, JONBENET WAS GONE/KIDNAPPED!!
So, How did they bungle it again??
They DIDNT!!!
THE RAMSEYS DID!
With a fake Randsome Note, Staging and a stupid intruder theory!
C'mon people🤦♀️ If you take the note Patsy wrote, out of the picture, what do you get????
Case in point: Gabby Petito’s roadside battery case with Moab, Utah police said Brian Laundry! Law enforcement believed Laundry over Gabby even though the eyewitness called them and said they saw him hitting her, prompting the police to pull them over! Had they believed Gabby and arrested Brian and pressed charges, Gabby would still be alive today! Moab police totally botched their investigation!
@@terrywade3696 Exactly and Probably many Others. How Unfortunate for them All
I hate how this family have been treated over the years and that Patsy died before they were officially cleared
You should also hate then how this family treated the police. Watch their interrogations.
😢😢😢I will never forget this case. The mom cancer returned due to her grief and the scrutiny over lies told by investigators. The best way to look at it hope she’s unite with her baby girl
@@Riververchiyes it was definitely SUS
SAME HERE!!
@@RiververchiThe police assumed they were guilty and didn’t even bother to look for other suspects. I don’t blame them.
THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB. THE RAMSEY'S CHANGED THEIR STORIES TO MANY TIMES. IF THIS MAN DID IT WHY WOULD HE GO UPSTAIRS AFTER KILLING HER TO LOOK FOR HER FAVORITE WHITE BLANKET THAT WAS IN THE DRYER ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO WRAP HER IN IT AFTER KILLING HER. WHO THE HELL DOES THAT? JOHN OR PATSY WRAPPED HER IN HER FAVORITE WHITE BLANKET AND KNEW WHERE IT WAS IN THE DRYER.
Bingo.
Praying for justice in this horrible case.
I feel like this is hokey….
OF COURSE IT IS. THE RAMSEY'S WERE INVOLVED. JOHN RAMSEY IS DETERMINED TO PIN THIS ON ANYONE EXCEPT THE FAMILY BEFORE HE DIES. FAT CHANCE JOHN. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT YOU PRI*K.
It is That man knows what he has been doing with his own daughter and what he let others do to her This family is satanic !
One of the most terrible ,strange ,unsolved cases ever
no- it was solved. and covered up.
It was the parents or parent
@@ScootsMcPootDNA cleared the parents recently look it up
I was 12 when this happened. The story sweeped the nation and became the focal point in the news for weeks.
Swept*
@@sylvia106 Grammar Police 😳
None of these people who confess ever did anything.None of them ever know anything very specific about the house or her murder or even how it was done.
This case was not handled properly, it reminds me of the Madeline McCann case, the mystery and false information that surrounds these cases is beyond frustrating.
Praying both get solved, justice is overdue 🙏
I agree. They spent so much time trying to prove that the parents did it that they missed their opportunity to find out who really did it. It reminds me of a kidnapping that happened in Florida years ago. I believe it was a baby named Sabrina. The police ignored evidence, foot print and a hair, and put all the effort into trying to prove the parents did it.
The McCain are just as guilty as the Benets.
Interesting, but sadly we've heard it all before. It all remains to be seen. Also, how do you 'accidentally' wrap a tourniquet around a child's neck and twist it so tight it pulls her hair out before killing her?! Such a tragic case, even now after all these years 😢
Not a tourniquet - a Garotte! Even worse!
It's not him.
On top of that why write a ransom note for money? If this guy did it the goal wouldn't be money it would obviously be so he could have his way with Jonbenet. It doesn't add up. People jumping the gun are going to be as embarrassed as they were over John mark karr.
@@bendietreesand exact amount as dads bonus
They said, that is was her mother’s writing and she knew the amount and found pineapple, eating, or layed out. Her mother was dying maybe she planed this? The one detective said, she knew who it is?
This is one of the saddest cases, I’ve followed every step of it and I think it’s ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING what the Colorado Police did to John and Patsy. They let a killer get away because of a horribly botched scene. And all of these sickos that just want fame and attention. Judgement Day IS coming to WHOMEVER did this!
I agree 100% nobody gets away with hurting a baby like this. . They ll get what's coming... I pray their mind is so tortured the only relief is turning themselves in . In Jesus name amen amen
I agree about what they put her parents (and brother) through, the whole case was a mishandled disaster! But I also think it's pretty disgusting parading a small innocent child around in front of the masses dressed up like a sex worker. Turns my stomach, not at all cute or appropriate, what message does it send?
yeah right! most of the time the father is the culprit!
@@CharGC123 Patsy was the killer.
The son did it.
Curious... Did they conduct a handwriting analysis of Gary Oliva and compare his handwriting to the ransom letter that was found?
@@jmyonan yes they did it was a match and he was always a suspect in the case
🚩over 90% of killers that try to cover it up want someone there with them when they discover the body…. John waited to find her until someone was with him
The Boulder Police dropped the ball and continue to do so. Once they focused on Patsy Ramsey and that failed, they turned to John and then 9 year old Burke. They got tunnel vision, and they don't want to admit they messed up. I truly hope this case is solved for the families sake.
Why do you think the family is innocent?
The family is not innocent
@@jazamaraz8029 If I remember correctly they found DNA from two contributors and neither one was related to the Ramsey's. I have no idea who killed Jon Benet & don't like to speculate & assume. We see it in countless cases where the police get tunnel vision and then years go by with no arrests.
You’re exactly right. It was tunnel vision by the police that ruined the investigation. Once they realized they were wrong, their egos couldn’t admit it. That’s why the police department is fighting the governor’s request to send the male DNA found on her underwear for genetic genealogy testing.
@@jazamaraz8029 Why do you think they aren't?
I can’t believe this case is still unsolved, and still being “claimed” by random lunatics. I was about 14yrs old when it happened, and always assumed it was her father who probably did it, or at least played a major role in it. The mismanagement of it by the police will most likely leave it in cold case purgatory forever.
It was the mother
@@johnnyflannigan136 Exactly. The mother was the one who forced her to participate in those repulsive beauty pageants. Missdenisebee is just another man-hater.
@@johnnyflannigan136 It was neither. It was whomever the DNA found in her underwear came from.
@@TheBarkinFrogExactlys people are so ignorant
It's solved it's just not prosecuted. It never will be prosecuted.
What about the Dna sample!?
New “evidence” for this case comes up every year. This will always be one of life greatest mysteries
Reminds of OJ who was supposedly looking for the killer till the day he dropped dead. Tell me another one
A ransom note is never 2 pages long though it's always short and to the point. Explain that.
Who says? Criminals aren’t geniuses.
@@mselizabeth2644 yes ma'am that could be possible It just isn't a normal ransom note imo
@@mselizabeth2644 any criminal profiler says
the ransom note is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read, parents were trying too hard
@@NGRevenant exactly it makes no sense. When they compared Patsy handwriting it matched up but idk I just can't believe this case hasn't been solved yet. I've followed it a long time watching the same over and over. That was a novel not a ransom letter and imo that is very very important to hold onto and go over
OMG....this case!! What a mess from the very beginning. LE focused intensely on the parents & didn't let go. Let a killer get away with murder. Never felt family had anything to do with it. Still don't. How incredibly sad for the entire family. They deserve an apology from LE.
The brother was sexually assaulting JonBenet, JonBenet threatened to tell the mom and dad. The brother choked her to death, then the mother and father covered it up bc losing one kid is better than both. That is the story that a lot of people think happened. But this pedo claiming to have been the one to kill JonBenet is crazy.
I think you're right!
That is just ridiculous speculation!.
IF her brother killed her nothing would've happened.
He was too young to be charged with any crime so they would not have lost 2 children.
@@DebraHarrison-b2x you’re the dumbest commenter I’ve seen yet. He was 9 years old. There are plenty of kids arrested for rape and murder. You think they’d have just let him off? What country do you think we’re in?
That's bull$hit. Burke was NOT sexually assaulting his sister. You need help.
I saw the interview with their son. He is more than creepy. I believe the parents covered up for their son.
Very strange boy indeed
He is socially awkward. You would be too if your sister were murdered in your own home on Christmas when you were only a child. Imagine the fear he had to live with. And while enduring that trauma to have people accuse you of being the killer. As if that small boy got out of his bed, took his sister down to the basement, sexually assaulted his her and then made a garrote to kill her with and also wrote a ransom note to cover his crime. Not a chance. In my opinion, the killer was an adult male seasoned pedophile who escalated to sadistically killing his tiny victim. He stalked her and climbed in the window of the basement that night and took her from her bed back down to the basement. He wrote the note in advance of killing her because he indeed planned to keep her but in his cruelty he wound up killing the child and fleeing regardless of his initial plan. That's what I think.
This is a reminder to everyone that wealth does protect people from tragedy.
Wait, the letter said her head "bashed in half" but wasn't she choked to death with a garrote? That might be why nobody believed him?!?
She was also found with a large skull fracture on her head. But coincidently its possible a flashlight from the ramsey home matches this hole in her skull. Mmnhhhmm too many coincidences for me. I dont believe in coincidences….usually there is a truth attached.
@@LS-tx6vn A big fracture doesn't sound like how he described it. If he accidentally hit her head then why choke her? Also, his call was made after it was on the news in Boulder. Plus, he was dna tested and wasn't a match.
I'm not saying it wasn't him but he wasn't the only violent child molester to confess to killing her and there was coincidences with other people as well. I'm hoping for the family's sake it is so they can get some much needed closure. I've just learned from following this case not to get my hopes up when they say another person confessed.
Botched work by authorities in Colorado.
A known person to the family committed this crime.
Holidays, free flowing guests, festivities, excitement wrong for some, bad things known by someone still alive...DNA?
Note, long time finding child in your own home?
The truth is known.
For me it is the ransom note that makes this case so confusing and no "intruder" theory makes sense because of it. To me, the ransom note best served the family as it gave them time to throw the police off and contaminate the scene as much as possible and of course set up a false narrative. What purpose did it serve some random intruder who had left her body in the basement and was able to enter/leave quietly without a trace?! I can't get past the feeling that the parents have guilty knowledge - if they didn't directly do it, they know who/why and they are involved in covering it up. For what reason, I doubt we will ever know the full truth in this one.
I agree, I can’t get pass a three page random letter either. A stranger doing this would be almost rare, especially knowing personal information. I need to watch th3 documentary again to remember other clues .
@@CoffeeCrazy The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@ashleywalker1 The 2 white blankets were used for another purpose, photos. The perps sure didn't go to so much trouble & take such high risks for nothing. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called & they wouldn't get that instant cash. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge & they weren't the 3 stooges, they knew full well that the wrapping of the child in blankets would have many thinking that only a family member would do that. You should do some more study about this case & add up all the breadcrumbs dropped that led straight to every member of that poor family.
@@bethryan9077 with all that you wrote. Who do you believe would write a ransom note but yet not take the child? Write a ransom note with personal information not freely known to the public. If it was a stranger then said person would have to feel comfortable to freely take the child from her bed, down to the basement, kill her, write a ransom note and then leave. All this done with the family in the home. Who do you believe is the culprit?
@@CoffeeCrazy There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for quick Available cash & with others, that plan turned into a crime about revenge against John. This highly insidious set up was to implicate all Ramseys plus others around them, for good measure. The research began quite some before & that included - the Ramsey’s whole family, friends, associates & neighbours of course & then the study about well known violent movies about kidnapping plots & so the 5 movie quotes within the note. They were also in tune with previous famous kidnapping cases & famous sadistic murders. This Plan, JB was Never going to be taken from the basement.
It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called. They sure didn’t go to soo much trouble & take such high risks for nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money.
From footage of the front of the house, it looks like a double storey Tudor style home. From the Ramsey’s extensive renovations, that was a Huge 3 storey mansion - plus the basement that had multiple rooms & heating, many big cupboards, water, a bathroom, a phone & 2 separate window exit points if needed. The butler’s kitchen was another level again, stairs either end to go down there but ground level, with the glass exit door. This section was situated along the side part of the house that was isolated & ran down the side of the garage. Unlike the other 3 sections that were basically all windows & glass doors, all 3 storeys.
The cement rendered room where JB was found, used to be a coal bin as the house before renovations down the years, was from the 1920s. Basically that ‘cellar’ room was under the sunroom, front left corner if standing looking at the front of the house. That cellar was used for storage & along with some other things, the Xmas trees were kept in there. That was the only room in that whole house that Didn’t have a Window. Due to changes over the years & then the Ramsey’s renovations, as there was no window, that room wasn’t visible from the outside. To get to that room, one went down the basement to the bottom of the stairs & straight down the hall where the door to that room was Clearly visible, as seen in the cops’ walk-thru videos. The stories about that as a hidden room are Not true. The stories about that room being known only to the family are Not true. Soo much BS still going around about this case, for 26 years & counting. Being from back in the day, the light switch for that room was situated at an odd place, one had to step inside, take x many steps to the left & the light switch fixture was hanging from a cord on the other side of the beam, about halfway into the room. There was a doorknob on that door but no lock. To Pull the door open, one had to firstly reach up to the top & flip the wooden latch up then pull on the doorknob. The basement was painted about 1 year prior. The palm print on the inside of that cellar door was never identified. There were many items of evidence in that room besides the Hi-Tec Shoeprint, that was Not a boot. There was also another different partial shoeprint on the other side.
The perps were listening to Patsy call 911 on another phone. The laundry room was situated at the stair end of the basement, with the big washing machine plus the big clothes dryer. A black phone was on the end of the bench near the doorway opposite the washing machine. The perps put that black & white photo of when Patsy won Miss West Virginia, stuck to the wall above that phone.
A second washer & dryer were upstairs near JB’s room then an ironing/work room with a sink.
The boiler room in the basement had the window with the bars on it, front of the house. The rest of the wall to the right, most of the cellar was on the other side. There was a pipe vent that went out the top of the boiler room window. The short shrill scream from JB was heard by a neighbour at about 1.30 a.m., because she lived directly across the road & had her bedroom window open a bit. The scream was from JB when first taken to the boiler room, as the cord was quickly released from her neck. A test was carried out & it was proven that no scream could be heard upstairs from the basement. The perps went out of the house for a while because of that scream then went back in. From the very top of the steep hill at the end of the street, one could see the whole area. These 2 vicious perps had 2 cohorts as look-outs.
The parent’s bedroom suite was the whole of the top storey. Burke’s room was at the front & basically under their bed. JB’s bedroom was 70 metres down from Burkes, through the playroom first & a couple of turns. The spiral staircase was across from but just near JB’s bedroom. That back spiral staircase went down to the main living areas & the quickest route to the kitchen. The basement door was on that level & the entry to get there was near that staircase but up a hall that was separate to those living areas. The main staircase was near the front door. The slot for the mail was to the side of that door with a box to catch it underneath. The Ramseys would enter & exit the house through the garage & the mudroom was near that internal door. Visitors would use the front door or the back patio door that Patsy called the kitchen door. That door was 2 glass doors actually, as seen in photos, the door near that grate. The window for the alcove was next to that door, the alcove where the wall phone was situated that Patsy used to call 911. That wall phone had a good length cord & the cradle for the handset was metal. The note was moved to & spread out on the floor just by that alcove doorway, John was on his knees by the door reading it over & over. When the operator asked Patsy who sent it (lol), Patsy leant out the doorway a bit & could See the Big writing at the bottom of the 3rd page. Because it was Last as a signage, the S.B.T.C caught her attention First, then she saw the word Victory.
They were up so early that morning when still Dark, because they were to go to their holiday house in Charlevoix, on their private plane & so, the pilot had that plane ready. JB was found after 1 p.m. & John was told they had to leave as the house was then a Crime Scene. In Front of a cop, John called his pilot wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to Family in Atlanta, two perfectly Normal things to want to do. That cop relayed what he heard to the PD & John was told they couldn’t leave so they stayed with friends in Boulder with police around them 24/7. Those various police officers were around the family & visitors for a week & officially stated that the Ramseys were deeply grieving parents & there was nothing adverse to report.
I was only 5 years old at the time when this first broke national news. It’s insane to see that this still hasn’t been solved 😢
Me too, my mom was obsessed with it for a while.
Kidnappers don't leave ransom notes with personal and financial details of people in the household where they killed someone in "that family".
Nor do they 'not kidnap' their victim, as was the case here.
@@rigelb9025 There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime. One has to take the time to Think about Why. This was a very, Very well Planned crime for quick Available cash & with others, that plan turned into a crime about revenge against John. This highly insidious set up was to implicate all Ramseys plus others around them, for good measure. The research began quite some before & that included - the Ramsey’s whole family, friends, associates & neighbours of course & then the study about well known violent movies about kidnapping plots & so the 5 movie quotes within the note. They were also in tune with previous famous kidnapping cases & famous sadistic murders. This Plan, JB was Never going to be taken from the basement.
It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called. They sure didn’t go to soo much trouble & take such high risks for nothing. The taking of photos was their back-up for money.
From footage of the front of the house, it looks like a double storey Tudor style home. From the Ramsey’s extensive renovations, that was a Huge 3 storey mansion - plus the basement that had multiple rooms & heating, many big cupboards, water, a bathroom, a phone & 2 separate window exit points if needed. The butler’s kitchen was another level again, stairs either end to go down there but ground level, with the glass exit door. This section was situated along the side part of the house that was isolated & ran down the side of the garage. Unlike the other 3 sections that were basically all windows & glass doors, all 3 storeys.
The cement rendered room where JB was found, used to be a coal bin as the house before renovations down the years, was from the 1920s. Basically that ‘cellar’ room was under the sunroom, front left corner if standing looking at the front of the house. That cellar was used for storage & along with some other things, the Xmas trees were kept in there. That was the only room in that whole house that Didn’t have a Window. Due to changes over the years & then the Ramsey’s renovations, as there was no window, that room wasn’t visible from the outside. To get to that room, one went down the basement to the bottom of the stairs & straight down the hall where the door to that room was Clearly visible, as seen in the cops’ walk-thru videos. The stories about that as a hidden room are Not true. The stories about that room being known only to the family are Not true. Soo much BS still going around about this case, for 26 years & counting. Being from back in the day, the light switch for that room was situated at an odd place, one had to step inside, take x many steps to the left & the light switch fixture was hanging from a cord on the other side of the beam, about halfway into the room. There was a doorknob on that door but no lock. To Pull the door open, one had to firstly reach up to the top & flip the wooden latch up then pull on the doorknob. The basement was painted about 1 year prior. The palm print on the inside of that cellar door was never identified. There were many items of evidence in that room besides the Hi-Tec Shoeprint, that was Not a boot. There was also another different partial shoeprint on the other side.
The perps were listening to Patsy call 911 on another phone. The laundry room was situated at the stair end of the basement, with the big washing machine plus the big clothes dryer. A black phone was on the end of the bench near the doorway opposite the washing machine. The perps put that black & white photo of when Patsy won Miss West Virginia, stuck to the wall above that phone.
A second washer & dryer were upstairs near JB’s room then an ironing/work room with a sink.
The boiler room in the basement had the window with the bars on it, front of the house. The rest of the wall to the right, most of the cellar was on the other side. There was a pipe vent that went out the top of the boiler room window. The short shrill scream from JB was heard by a neighbour at about 1.30 a.m., because she lived directly across the road & had her bedroom window open a bit. The scream was from JB when first taken to the boiler room, as the cord was quickly released from her neck. A test was carried out & it was proven that no scream could be heard upstairs from the basement. The perps went out of the house for a while because of that scream then went back in. From the very top of the steep hill at the end of the street, one could see the whole area. These 2 vicious perps had 2 cohorts as look-outs.
The parent’s bedroom suite was the whole of the top storey. Burke’s room was at the front & basically under their bed. JB’s bedroom was 70 metres down from Burkes, through the playroom first & a couple of turns. The spiral staircase was across from but just near JB’s bedroom. That back spiral staircase went down to the main living areas & the quickest route to the kitchen. The basement door was on that level & the entry to get there was near that staircase but up a hall that was separate to those living areas. The main staircase was near the front door. The slot for the mail was to the side of that door with a box to catch it underneath. The Ramseys would enter & exit the house through the garage & the mudroom was near that internal door. Visitors would use the front door or the back patio door that Patsy called the kitchen door. That door was 2 glass doors actually, as seen in photos, the door near that grate. The window for the alcove was next to that door, the alcove where the wall phone was situated that Patsy used to call 911. That wall phone had a good length cord & the cradle for the handset was metal. The note was moved to & spread out on the floor just by that alcove doorway, John was on his knees by the door reading it over & over. When the operator asked Patsy who sent it (lol), Patsy leant out the doorway a bit & could See the Big writing at the bottom of the 3rd page. Because it was Last as a signage, the S.B.T.C caught her attention First, then she saw the word Victory.
They were up so early that morning when still Dark, because they were to go to their holiday house in Charlevoix, on their private plane & so, the pilot had that plane ready. JB was found after 1 p.m. & John was told they had to leave as the house was then a Crime Scene. In Front of a cop, John called his pilot wanting to get to some sort of Safety & to Family in Atlanta, two perfectly Normal things to want to do. That cop relayed what he heard to the PD & John was told they couldn’t leave so they stayed with friends in Boulder with police around them 24/7. Those various police officers were around the family & visitors for a week & officially stated that the Ramseys were deeply grieving parents & there was nothing adverse to report.
the hell the cops put her parents thru should NOT have happened
I don’t believe he could have written that “ransom note.”
Me neither
It was someone that worked for Jon benet father's
@@feartheghostinme675nah it was patsy who wrote it
@@feartheghostinme675yeah whatever happened to the two podesta brothers?! Those two sketches matched their faces to a T. In addition to that they had all that creepy-ass artwork regarding children and well all the dots surrounding those two men pointed directly to them both??? And I think most of us know their connections to the clintons and that sicko witch Maria abramovich! And right about the same time that information came out about them and that witch we had information coming out all over the place about Anthony Weiner's laptop and the sick demonic cannibalism in all those people that were associated with that. There was an awful lot of stuff going down when all this information came out. Sidney Powell conducted long interviews about what she knew concerning these sickos! She stated New York City police officers, harden tough cops, were actually throwing up after they saw what they saw on weiners laptop. I don't know about this man's confession I would have to look into information a lot further before I believe this story.
@@duckypam dna cleared all of them recently until we find who's unknown DNA it was it will never be solved it's so easy to blame the parents or burk but I still think it was someone eles.....
This guy was on Detective Lou Smit's list of people he believed was the murderer almost immediately after JonBenet's death. His daughter Cindy Marra has been working on this case in her father's stead since he passed away in 2010.
Lou Smit was a much celebrated longtime Colorado Springs homicide detective. He was a colleague of Detective Joe Kenda and Kenda still holds him in high esteem. Soon after JonBenet was murdered, Smit came out of retirement to help the Boulder DA's office investigate the case. He left 18 months later, saying he was frustrated that Boulder Police would not consider that an intruder had killed JonBenet. The guy left legit explanations on why the Ramseys most definitely didn't do it and evidence to support that it was in fact an intruder. The Boulder PD was dead set on bringing down the Ramseys from the get go.
Again, he wasn't with the Boulder PD and he wasn't on the Ramsey's payroll. He was a seasoned volunteer with credentials.
All of this is according to a guy that started working with the Boulder PD on this case and quickly realized that they were in fact railroading the family. He walked away and when he passed he left behind extensive paperwork of his deep study of the case to his daughter to carry on. She has given interviews that are MINDBLOWING regarding her father's study of the Ramsey case.
If you want to hear more about the logistics of this case from outside the scope of the Boulder PD, Google Detective Lou Smit's daughter Cindy Marra. All of this is well documented in her father's detective work almost immediately after Jon Benet's death. Both the Ramsey's and Lou Smit had been trying to get this investigated by outside sources and the Boulder PD refuses to allow it. That says a lot about the BPD.
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The smit daughters just want to kepp dad's legacy ticking over. Lou smit's list is an utter JOKE because it does not contain two important names. John bennett Ramsey. Patricia Ramsey.
He discredits himself by theae omissions.
So very well stated, I for one, thank you.
Awesome. I just don't buy that John or patsy murders her beautiful baby girl. Though sadly because of joke boulder police investigation cops on scene that day an many reading these posts do....test the damn Make DNA that this child rape creep...
Rest in Peace beautiful child and Mother
The Ransom note is the key. If this guys handwriting matches the note than its him. If not its someone else. The Ramson note is extremely strange. The $118,000 amount is odd. All evidence points to the family . The cops knew that from the beginning. The girl was not raped and there was no call from the person who wrote the Ransom note.
There are two facts that will always point away from an outsider involved in the death of this little girl: 1.) The amount of money demanded in the ransom letter was the exact amount of money in one of Mr. Ramsey's bonus/bank accounts, 2.) the ransom letter was as long as a CVS reciept and written on stationary from within the house. I'm not including the alleged child pornography found on Mr. Ramsey's work computer because all information about it has mysteriously vanished, and he wasn't charged and convicted. Sure, the cops made a lot of mistakes. But that doesn't mean an outsider did it. .......kind of like the OJ case: The cops were racist/crooked AND OJ was guilty. It doesn't always have to be mutually exclusive (i.e. binary thinking).
This man could've chosen into the house and found paperwork on the amount he chose to ask for. You can't judge the amount written either. Maybe he's a rambling conversationalist
They looked at his workplace staff too, I take it? No accusations whatsoever but there was at least one person outside of the family who knew about that bonus amount. The person who wrote the cheque.
@@macca777 I don't think this bonus was a big secret. You'd think people would have whispers going around about it.
I feel the same way! Most affluent people don’t go around talking about how much money they have coming in. Times are different now people are much more open but back then talking about money in that sense can somewhat be perceived as tacky and new money. We will never know the truth. I think it was much closer to home than most people want to believe. People falsely confess all the time 🤷🏾♀️
Playing devil's advocate here: criminals are not smart. What is the perp broke in, realized they had forgotten a ransom note😂 and decided to write one there? They probably knew tje Ramseys would be gone for hours. Yeah, it is far-fetched and highly unlikely but I am throwing it out there for fun.
Goodness gracious, how many children have been murdered or gone missing since this case. I really hate how the media picks cases to put in the spotlight.
It's unbelievable that someone could get INTO the house, kill her and get out unseen and unheard without leaving a trace of himself being there. How is it possible?
Someone had to have because she was found with DNA on her that didn't match any family members or friends ☹️
@@Anna_780 Exactly. And, there was no sign of forced entry. How is it possible? It would seem that it had to be someone who had been there at some point and either stole a key outright or stole it long enough to have one made and then returned it. I dunno. Obviously I'm just guessing but how else could they pull something like this off?
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
I’m so grateful those meddling incompetent bums at BPD finally handed the case over to REAL detectives. I actually signed an online petition about it.
Unbelievable! How could Denver PD have botched this so badly? Who else has this man harmed in the years that followed. Inept & very,very sad. Look at all they put the Ramseys through, my lord.
Exactly.
😢It's been the most prolific true crimes of the century! Actually broke my heart in 1996, my son was the same exact age as Jon Benet Ramsey. This case makes everyone uneasy no matter who you are.
I am almost to the day her age😢 it shakes me!
I was for her mom she was mostly accused killing her daughter can you imagine she'd loved her child but yet her child got killed somebody else did it and I thought it was her and she tried to tell him she didn't kill her child and they wouldn't listen to her that's heartbreak for you God bless her soul she's with her baby now forever more God bless them both
Sounds like they have a suspect let's get this case solved
That is not how she died.
It's nothing
This is old so it's clickbait to say its new in the title. He confessed over 4 years ago.
They already tested his DNA years ago. He is not a match
I still think it was inside the family. What kidnapper “breaks in,” without leaving any signs of forced entry, finds a pen and paper inside the house, writes a 2-3 page note for practice, throws that away then rewrites another 2-3 pages, asks for the exact amount he got as a bonus, then takes JonBenet, kills her and leaves her in the basement while still leaving the note wanting money? It’s gotta be one of the most bs stories that people have bought.
If the parents did it, why would they leave a note requesting money AND leave her body in the basement as well, it makes just as little sense.
@@kingcosworth2643 I agree but that does leave it open for it to all be John. He killed her and wrote the letter. He intended to hide the body to align with the kidnapping story. But Patsy found the note and her call to 911 was genuine. John didn't have time to hide the body before Patsy would have seen him. At that point John was just stuck and that kind of explains why he immediately 'found' her body before the cops could (and why he moved her body instead of just screaming for help).
The problem I have here is that at some point Patsy would have figured it out. If she wasn't in on it to begin with, I don't know why she would keep up the ruse.
@@thesollylama130 I think it was the brother.. but could be the father for sure.
DNA proved it wasn't parents or her brother. Your mentality is exactly why this case wasn't resolved. You're barking up an empty tree when the raccoon already went to another way.
People also dont realize the parents called their lawyer, before they even called the police.
Innocent people normally dont call their lawyers first in an emergency situation, they call First Responders. Then you call for legal help if you need it.
I was a teen when this happened I always thought it was her brother and her parents covering it up ..RIP little angel
AGREED
I’m still not convinced this guy was the one either though..I almost wonder if it’s a case of just being eager to pin a perpetrator finally….I mean, it could still have been the oldest brother…especially if it was maybe a ransom gone wrong…maybe he just wanted to extort money from his parents and it got out of control? The oldest brother was 23 at the time of the murder….
This killed her mother too. It is extremely sad, I was appalled how this family was treated.
Cancer killed her mother.
@celenamuzzillo-simms2564 A broken heart and stress can destroy one's immune system, creating a perfect environment for cancer to grow.
@@pinkysimmsBMMM Caused by the stress of it
@@pinkysimmsBMMM Wow, it's as if you have zero clue what an immune system is or how it functions. smh
Puh-leez…Guilt killed her mother
Something is Really Wrong with this case altogether. Stop & Think, If you swiped a child from their bed, took them downstairs to the basement, " Accidentally " killed them. Would you really take the time to Neatly write a 3 page Letter, go back upstairs an 1/2 way up the next set of stairs, to leave an apology note ?? Every bend of this murder case gets worse than the last.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
It is Really bizarre that soo many of you go through the scenario where the child is killed Then the note is written. LMAO. Y'all need to stick to the Cartoons, true crime is Not for you & make sure that you're Never on a jury. BTW - what part of that abysmal note is an 'apology'? Geez.
@@bethryan9077 Ramsey's had power and $, all these experts and police could be protecting the Ramsey's, there's just no way a stranger would enter this 7k sq ft home, write a 3 page letter stating John's exact xmas bonus to go then rape and kill a child to then climb out of a tiny basement window w/ no footprints left behind in the snow. C;mon, I don't care what experts have to say. Corruption at its best! Also, why didn't the so called "kidnapper" call next morning to collect the ransom??? And no one was waiting by the phone to take the call to find their daughter from the kidnapper. All 3 Ramsey's played a role no doubt.
That poor family. News and police completely let them down. John and Patsy lived absolute hell being blamed for years! 😢 I feel so bad for them:( no one should have to endure this when their own child is the victim, it’s horrendous!
No. The police may have let the cause of justice down, but the parents only benefitted from that.
I think Patsy had something to do with it because letter was written by her, she knew all information in that letter and she give her the pineapple. Patsy deep down had this obsession about beauty contest, put her daughter through a fashion of adult woman , this little child should not been exposed too.? This is was cause pornographers and trafficking. The woman was dying anyway I still more with her.
@@carolynboyd8539 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolfe vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carne got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. If you’re actually old enough to pay tax, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
@@carolynboyd8539 It has never been proven the mother wrote the ransom note.
Until it has been proven don't speculate.
@@carolynboyd8539
"Six highly qualified professionals hired by Boulder Authorities and the FBI determined Patsy, John, or Burke Ramsey did not write the ransom note. Chief Beckner confirmed that the investigation had retained the services of Chet Ubowski, Leonard Speckin, Edwin Alford, and Richard Dusack, Howard Ryle and Lloyd Cunningham to perform handwriting analysis and comparisons. Not ONE of the examiners identified Patsy Ramsey as the author of the ransom note." - DA Alex Hunter's Sworn Deposition 11/27/01
This is so sad, especially when you recall how hyper focused the authorities were on blaming the Ramsey 's.
She was such a beautiful little girl, hopefully Justice gets served and family gets Justice!!No one should go through this for so long! It’s devastating!!!
The family does not want "justice". Not in the least.
@@65if2007you’re judging them . They wanted justice from the beginning.
@@Berrypancakes229 That's why they lawyered up and took four months to submit to a police interview but just six days to talk to CNN. "Judging them". What the f does that mean?
The family did it numb nuts.
She God bless her she was and she still lives in heaven but people prosecuted her mother and they ought to be shamed with themselves now they prosecuted her so bad can you imagine your child getting killed and they say you did it when you know you didn't and she was right and they were wrong so sad
An incredible failure by law enforcement. All the needless added suffering that was created because they were to set in their own ways to follow a crucial tip
This is one of the saddest cases ever💔 not only did that sweet girl lose her life but still till this day no justice for her or her grieving family. And if this guy did it, and they ignored the tip, well they put other children and families at risk! So very sad💔
If this guy confessed to someone that he killed her 'on accident', and is seemingly remorseful, have investigators ever thought to interrogate this guy and simply ask him if he did it? And lastly, who the hell is this person in California and why did this Oliva guy feel so comfortable telling him that he was obsessed with a six year old girl? These are questions that deserve an answer, right?
If this is the killer and he was working alone the handwriting on his confession letters and the ransom note need to be compared.
So sad we still don’t know who killed this poor little girl.
many do know.
God knows. 🙏
Yes, we do.
no one has thought of the possibility that they were in the occult and she was a sacrafice? that goes on alot in Colorado from what i have heard.
@@Cream_CurdlR Oh Really? Name names. Put up or shut up.
Why is it so hard for everyone to believe, that her father done that?
What evidence other than your wanting to blame someone
@@philipbolin6776 well, somebody did it
@@patriciamccutcheon3357 agreed, at this rate though there's no evidence against anyone
@@philipbolin6776 you're right there is no evidence to 1 certain person. But I honestly believe that father was infatuated with his own daughter and he done that. That's why that Ransom note was so meticulously written
@@patriciamccutcheon3357 that's a big assumption though, if there was evidence he was, then sure, but I'd hate to have my daughter die and then have people speculate it was me by making unfounded accusations. From what I know, the mother was the one pushing her into beauty pageants
Wasn’t there DNA to compare to his????
Yes, DNA under JonBenet’s fingernails & clothing/underwear I think, from an unknown male source. If Gary Oliva is not a DNA match, police really need to allow help from the genealogy experts to access the DNA & solve this terrible case.
DNA is a mix. It's touch DNA. Could have been deposited by transfer days before, in child's play. It's a nothingburger
Yes dna family member all pass
@@brandybiscoff9685There are new methods to find the source of the dna. WHY haven’t they done it?
@terivelez5948 Thing is, they probably don't have an actual for real profile. It is probably a combination. No one will ever match, and no one is ever excluded. It is a combination of up to seven contributors of touch DNA. Not actual.profiles. Could have been left days before it child's or by Jon Benet herself.
We all owe Mrs Ramsey a full appology and major grumbling
No we don't. SHE was complicit in the coverup. Burke did it. He had a history of violence towards Jin Benet and would smear feces on her bed. He was, IMO, jealous, and I believe he is on the spectrum with poor impulse control. Mom went into I overdrive to protect her child. Almost un derstandable until you realize it's her daughter that is dead.
If I’m not mistaken her and I are the same age (33) I literally grew up heartbroken for her and her family. To see this happening right now is so emotional for me right now. God bless her father, brother, and May God let Mrs.Patsy’s soul rest in perfect peace! Lord God finally 💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐🥹
Get a grip. 🙄
@@DoyleShadduck eat🤬🤬
Here we go again! WHY have Boulder PD dismissed this guy from the beginning? We shall see.
They didn't. They tested his DNA years and he was NOT a match
@@Naturefan354 ty!
The parents know exactly who did it, at least Patsy did considering she was the one who wrote the "ransom note". And since Patsy took the secret to her grave, it was either them or someone they had a very vested interest in protecting. At any rate, it is NOT this reject.
I'm not sure if the parents did this but I think someone close to the investigation did do it
Her handwriting and the exact bonus amount on ransom tells me who it is
@@steaphaniechapman1535same thoughts
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Burke