i used to smile at everything. all the time. and most imortantly, i will start smiling right before i have an anxious episode or a panick attack. i learned from a therapist that smiling can be a form of self soothing, trying to sooth negative emotions from overwhelming. its a coping mechanism for sure.
I used to react with a smile to certain situations until I noticed the reactions around me. I wasn't happy about what was going on, my smile was a nervous reaction. I learned to change that over time and look concerned instead of nervous smile.
Great example of how a common, garden variety behavior can utterly ruin a life. Surely a system so out of touch with reality is worse than no system at all.
My son was 5 yrs old when his sister was born. At first he played with her, but over a few years he became angry with her. He urinated on her favorite stuffed bunny and threw it behind his bookcase. I saw this and intervened and got him help.
@@jacquelinejacobson6789 Good observation and follow-up. What did it turn out to be? I bet a a lot of parents wouldn’t have intervened, and then it would’ve definitely gotten worse. You’re a good mom.
Holy cow I'm so excited!!!!!! I asked for a Burke analysis, I feel so heard even though I'm sure a hundred others also wanted to see him done. Thank you gentleman!!! I can't wait to watch.
Just the same way it's odd that the McCanns twins never woke up with what was going on around them. Not even when being lifted out from their cots did they ever flinch or give a sign of waking up. The police noted their observation as ODD indeed.
Even father before coming cop. If I have the same situation, My husband or I one of us, need to stay with Berke for not losing or trouble like JonBenet cause still they didn’t know what happened. But they kept Berke in the bed by himself?
This kid is close to home for me. My son is autistic, and I have nightmares my son will be misunderstood. The thought of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and being questioned by people who don’t understand. Keeps me up at night, and ages me
That DID happen to my son who has Landau-Kleffner Syndrome, which is a way of saying, "I'm sorry this vaccine went wrong and fried your child's previously normal brain.) Nightmare!!! He was accused of burglary and was so totally misunderstood. The police accused him of being "strange" because he was doing drugs, even testing him 6 times, convinced it just had to be drugs. When all tests came back negative, the court (who finally found him innocent of burglary) appointed him to take a Drugs and Alcohol class anyway, saying that we found a way to dupe the test and that was why he had passed it. 4 court dates, 6 therapy sessions and 2 months of drug classes and they finally realized this kid was not guilty of anything other than having a brain fried from a vaccine gone wrong. My poor son! Based on our experience, my heart goes out to this young Ramsey fellow! How confusing it must have been for him! Thank you Behavioral Panel for recognizing this young man's limitations.
Clicked so fast, I had hoped you guys would talk about him. This man is clearly on the spectrum and he is from a family where appearances are everything, his smile is habitual. Great analysis.
@@r.c.miller6161 trolls always say people are jealous whether or not. Also Patsy was not married to a man 20 years older. So get your facts straight when you go out of your way to insult somebody.
My sister tried to turn her only daughter into a star from a very young age and it really went nowhere but we also watched her only son get totally neglected. He couldn't wait to be away from his family. Its a very sad situation to watch. And Dad didn't get involved. Who really knows what happens in a childs life when growing up where one feels totally invisible.
Um.. I imagine most kids out there these days ARE neglecting. And feel neglected with their parents staring at their phones 24/7! And they give their kids a phone at 2 years old and neglect them.. this worlds about to get a million times WORSE!!!
When JonBenet was three she saw a pageant on TV and was enchanted. She started playing a game she called presenting. She would have her mom, dad, or Burke announce “presenting Miss JonBenet” and she would come out and sing and dance. A friend told Patsy that there was a pageant coming up in Boulder in a couple of weeks. There wasn’t much time but they made a costume and came up with an act. I think she sang On the good ship lollipop. She was runner up. Nobody forced JonBenet into pageants. She loved them. She just sparkled. Kids don’t do that if they are forced into something.
@@MM-ig1iv Beth and her boyfriend died in a car accident just outside of Chicago. John was in Boulder. Stop telling lies. The DNA evidence totally excludes anyone related to JonBenet, or don’t you know how DNA works?
It came out that the Grand Jury DID want to press charges against Patsy and John when those records were unsealed. Why that was not followed up on, we’ll never know. 🎉🧐🤔 Oh, yeah. Because he’s a rich guy.
He almost became child like when he was answering about the video of himself. Thank you all for spending your time teaching us. It's my favorite part of my week.😊
I was in a long term abusive relationship and I had to learn how to keep still and my expression neutral and even though I’m out of that situation I still find myself exhibiting those behaviors,sometimes things like that can be shaped by trauma
I would love to see y’all do an analysis on The 60 Minutes Interview of Mohammad Al-Fayed. There are many different interviews on his feelings about his son, Dodi, and Princess Diana being murdered. Since we are hearing so much about other Royals, I would love to see one on this theory. Thank you!
Displaying a child in pageant after pageant is so scary. Not good parenting in my opinion. He is weird because grew up in a weird family. Patsy, what a piece.
I 100% agree with Chase, Burke appears to be on the spectrum. My grandson was diagnosed at 18 months and and smiling is his baseline, even when experiencing pain. Good call Chase.
There are so many commenters saying "Burke is on the spectrum." Yeah? So? That neither implicates nor absolves him of the crime. It only explains some of his odd mannerisms. But there are clear signs of deception in the childhood interviews, like him refusing to acknowledge his favorite snack, or what was in the bowl, because he knows what the significance is. It's a shame that wealth and privilege have allowed him to avoid justice.
Okay, so the peacock feather display behind Greg is very interesting... It's the first time we've seen it on the channel. It's a deviation from his usual background baseline. I think it tells us a lot. I'm just surprised Mark didn't pick up on it.
Bahahahaha Love this. I was waiting for an explanation on the background for Greg... However he mentioned his sister gave him the pageant smile idea. So I assumed he was at his sisters house.
I sent the video of MM to my mother and she goes, omg, 2hrs! I can't watch all that. The next day she said she watched the whole thing and went back over certain parts. In a sea of mediocrity that is YT content, you guys are gold.
I feel sorry for this guy. I want to say boy, because that is how he comes across. There are so many forms of child abuse and this whole pageant world is, for me, legally abusing children. He was a boy so had to take second best to the fame hungry mum living her dream through her daughter. Yes the smile is weird but his childhood world was weird and abnormal. All siblings fight. The poor kid didn't have a normal childhood so no wonder his body language is different to most of us. He comes across quite relaxed regardless, considering who he's in front of. I feel for him. His whole life has been about his sister when she was alive and still now when she is dead. He's another victim here.
@@christopherjohnson3520 Maybe? That’s a vague word that would be thrown out of court. Maybe the mother did it. Maybe the bloke next door did it. Maybe the father did it. Maybe...
Go to 52:05 it shows a stick tired to the rope used to strangle her, why would an adult need that setup to strangle a little girl? And the slenderman stabbing as well as other equally horrible attacks by children on other children has shown kids can and do kill.
@@sciencescripture , when he was questioned at 9 the detective asked how she died , he answered stabbing or knife , he was unaware exactly how she died. He never said anything about strangling at nine years old.
@@sciencescripture Did you take a good look at that rope and the way it was tied? That's not an ordinary knot and it's tied really tightly. This is a boy who's life was about his mother's dreams for the pageant world. Where would a nine year old learn to tie a knot like that? Would a nine year old know how to even tie a knot like that. I remember being nine and not having any know how like that and I had a freer lifestyle and more practical adults around me. I wouldn't have had the strength for a start. To tie a knot like that and have the know how, then actually strangle the child would take some planning and a lot of strength. Also she died in 1996 when Google wasn't even around, so unless they had S&M books around the house, or boating, where would he even learn how to strangle her? They don't seem like they were let out of sight to even pee in peace with a mother as dominating as that. On top of that he had to drag her body down to the cellar, unless of course the parents did, but then I'd definitely be calling the police on my own kid had he done that. Let's not forget that she was the mothers apple. I know kids have killed before but I've never heard of them being so sophisticated at that age. They set things on fire or perhaps get hold of a gun or even hit them with something. For a nine year old, as insulated from real life, as that boy, it'd be a miracle he could even tied his shoe laces let alone create a knot like that!
My autism/aspergers was difficult enough for my parents (father with aspergers, mother NT). It must have been a tremendous challenge for his mother, who was so social and invested in appearances. After many years practice I can mimic NT for 15 to 20 minutes but I have to invest a great deal in it, and my responses to questions suffer. It's very draining and almost ensures I'll be non verbal for several hours afterward. If I am interrogated, I drop all of the fake NT, which probably makes me weirder, but at least I can keep talking.
There are many difficulties to overcome. I know it's really hard for my son. Teen years are extra tough. There may be gifts that some have - not all - but there are many challenges.
My first thought when I saw his smile was that he had picked up the fake pageant smile as a kid watching his mom and Jon Binet prepare for pageants. So your sister isn't alone, Greg.
Idk. I couldn't smile talk if say, my Mom was killed. That man-child shows NO affection for JonBenet. Regardless of being on the spectrum. One could still feel sadness.
@@r.c.miller6161 I just mean that we shouldn't expect him to show grief if he doesn't feel it. If he is autistic, this may be something he would have trouble with. And I would rather he be himself (as he is doing in the interview) than try to show emotion he doesn't have. I don't know if he is actually autistic, but I do know he was traumatized. That is another layer. I can't imagine what it would be like to be accused of murder your whole life on top of losing a sibling and later your mom. Anything he does in an interview would be disected by millions. I am glad that tbere are people like the panel who can do so with objectivity and logic.
Autistic individuals can be deviant...psychopathy is not mutually exclusive! To me, he would be the only reason why the parents would be protective and create that weird letter (they wouldn't protect each other over their daughter). No footprints on snow; from what I heard- he was the golden child not Jon Binet..On another note, you can see with his clear blue eyes how beautiful Jon Binet would have been if she made it past 10! Horrible case. The police did botch this case (because they had money). I'm sorry, but the glee on his face is very strange. Very detached individual irregardless.
@@yarnpower yeah I don’t think the healthiest “families” tend to get into those types of things in general…. So all the kids are abused regardless to some extent…… just not as badly as they would be, forced into these “beauty” *cough*ped0 pagents..
It is no less healthy than young girls flouncing around in revealing outfits in gymnastics or ice skating. It is just the dirty minded who see a difference. However, in beauty contests people outside the families and judges are not allowed unlike with the scantily clad "athletes" doing the splits and other such moves in front of crowds of onlookers.
@@vernonfrance2974 I think the difference is that things like gymnastics and ice skating aren't built upon the foundation of aesthetic beauty being of the highest value. You don't win a ballet competition by looking good in a tutu or having your make up done a certain way.
@@vernonfrance2974 It's not about the revealing outfits, it's about the terrible environment it puts children in. Beauty pageants aren't healthy competitions, they're exploitative vanity parades where pushy mothers treat their daughters like Barbie dolls. With the case of Jonbenet's mother, it's certain she cared more how the beauty pageants reflected back on her with her friends than she did about her own daughter's well-being. And yeah, unlike skating and gymnastics, it does teach these girls from a young age to put value on aesthetic beauty. Just let kids be kids.
When I was six years old, I was given an IQ test. I only got one answer wrong - when I was asked, "What are windows made of?" My answer was, "Molten and compressed sand." She counted it as wrong because the 'correct answer was "glass." When I pointed out that 'window' is essentially synonymous with 'glass,' she got mad. At that point, at the tender age of six, I decided that everything that had to do with so-called 'education' was bullshit. That lady marking my answer wrong makes me angry 55 years later. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what it's like living with ASD.
I had the same problem. I passed a MENSA test at 13 and they called my parents liars because they didn't believe a kid that age could score so high. At age 5 I was reading novels while my class were reading whatever they were reading in 1980. I was put in a classroom on my own because I was so far advanced. Back then they had no idea how to deal with kids like us mate. At least there is help for kids nowadays, so they can get the guidance they need. Try not to let anger cloud who you really are. You're giving her ignorance power over you, and you are better than that. She didn't know any better mate, but we do. It's nice to see others like me are about. Nerds rule 🤘✊😁👍
My nephew has mild autism. It was more pronounced when he was a child. He’s incredibly intelligent and articulate. At 6 foot 6 inches he’s a gentle giant. At 4 years of age he knew everything there was to know about flight and aeroplanes. His parents would spend most weekends at Heathrow and Gatwick airports in London so he could watch airplanes. He could describe each type of plane right down to each and every last component. His drawings were astounding. At 20 he’s now training to become a physiotherapist in the mental health sector.❤️ My Dad always had a saying for people like the woman who conducted your IQ test....‘You’re not very good at your job are you?!?!’😂
@@UberFubar75 At seven my daughter had a reading age and vocabulary of a 12 year old. I was told she was classed as a borderline gifted child, yet we received no help or guidance for this. She went from a village primary school with 147 children into a secondary school aged 11 with 2, 300 other students. Having obvious developing mental health issues (now diagnosed as bipolar and borderline Aspergers) she could not cope in these overwhelming surroundings. She was a victim of perpetual vicious attacks from bullies which only made her situation worse. She ended up being classed under the term ‘school refusal’ where the school and education authority only succeeded in giving me a near nervous breakdown, my daughter trying to take her own life 4 times, her running away to other counties several times and landing me in court (I had no lawyer, but stood my defence and was only fined £5!!) for not succeeding to keep my child in secondary education. They even tried moving her round every secondary school in my area, at a horrendous expense (nearly 3 grand when I worked on the minimum wage) to me each time for school uniform. Hence she left school with no qualifications, but has since qualified as a manicurist/ nail technician and is running her own business as a successful and talented nail artist. She’s even had some of her work printed in fashion magazines. I’m incredibly proud of her. Not bad for a ‘school refuser’ and a kid thrown out of art college in her first week for not being very artistic!! Keep doing what you do, it’s your life and happiness that matters. Believe me it’s the nerds that will out-survive the rest of humanity.❤️
Sibling rivalry is a real thing. And it can be very dangerous/fatal if no parent intervenes. Before the murder there were reported incidences of Burke lashing out in physical aggression towards his sister. Also the time of year is significant. His sister was probably lavished with Christmas gifts. He may have felt jealous and angry. Just my theory
@@Moluccan56 killed her favorite kid? Sure. What would be her motive? I certainly wouldn’t buy the soiled bed theory, Burke was sh***ing on everything, why wouldn’t he have gotten it first?
@ you would have to understand how sick Patsy was. She wasn’t normal so you can’t apply any logic or reason to her motive. JB was a plaything, a toy dolly. Patsy lived through JB and her visibility vicariously. What normal mother sexualizes her daughter at ANY time of her life, never mind at the age of 6 and younger. I don’t know what made Patsy snap but she knew she had terminal ovarian cancer. She knew her days were numbered and she was terribly narcissistic. Her neighbours reported hearing Patsy screaming at Jon Benet on many occasions so imagine that there were times she did it without them hearing her. Her demeanour, the fake note, their actions after the police got involved, it’s open and shut for me. Patsy never appeared to be a grieving parent, she was arrogant and defensive. I am glad she is where she is, now.
I hate to disagree but I don't think it is as simple as that. Attributing murder and violence with Aspergers is becoming a trend. Anything that can't be easily understood is being explained away as aspergers.
Never been formally diagnosed but I think I am too, feel sorry for the guy really as people made such terrible comments about his smile etc etc and its possible the guy is actually innocent, who knows.
@@AJ-zx8by AND/OR, A Narcissist or Psychopath, NOT to mention the fact that there are distinct differences between Psychopaths and Sociopaths. Yet, according to YT armchair psychiatrists and MDs, the two conditions are interchangeable. Of course, they aren't. We should learn the difference because according to these "Armchair Professionals" 99% OF ALL of us are one of these things.
I planned to only watch 20 minutes before bedtime, but you guys reeled 🐟 me in! Fascinating analysis! Thank you Mark for your input on our tendency to default to negative conclusions when we don't understand what we are seeing. I had that assumption when it first aired, much like the rest of the world, but your collective analysis explains his behavior... and now that I understand, I feel bad for him for having to essentially prove his innocence his entire life. Thank you for your analysis!
@@TheBehaviorPanel Thank you for doing this video. Initially I thought he was creepy too but came away with a different perspective and truly feel bad for him. It makes me wonder how often the people we label as odd, creepy, weird are on the autism spectrum or have severe anxiety. Also, i've wondered about child-like behaviors. Like Prince Harry displaying 12 year old behaviors. Is it common for children who have experienced death or trauma to be stuck in the behaviors when it happened? And does therapy help them evolve those behaviors to more adult-like behaviors? I get sucked into Hallmark movies as well and The Good Witch!! The sleeves and cup of something warm was hilarious. Thank you for the information and humor!
This interview creeped me out. I never paid much attention to Burke before. I always thought the parents were guilty. Thank you for helping me see that you can't always go with your gut reaction. That smile is hard to get around. My immediate reaction to it was Guilty. You guys changed my mind. Thank you for showing me gut reaction isn't enough.
Yes, I made a similar comment to the Panel, as my initial reaction was "why is he smiling at something so horrific?" Now, I realise a smile is so complex, thanks to this analysis 💚🇮🇪
these guys are clueless. HE was trained before the interview what to say and what to not say and what to avoid and how to do that. It is so obvious. I think these guys are paid by the Ramseys .
A few things. Being a parent I / and my husband would have shook down the house several times looking for her. They apparently did not. 2) Patsy leaves Burke alone in his bedroom. As a mom and 1 child was gone, I would not have let him out of my sight, fearing someone was in the house and might hurt him too.
I agree that they all acted weirdly, but that's their baseline. They were always weird. Look you dress your toddler up as a slut and them have a free for all open house for anyone and everyone to come and admire your Christmas decor. The next morning she's dead in the basement. I believe the pedophile came to the very busy house tour, hid and laid in wait This, and especially not engaging their security system when the went for dinner . is all very irresponsible , even in a safe affluent town like Boulder.but not evidence of murder , especially not by a 9 year old in a huge house, asleep in his own room , alone looking forward tonight and I awaking to Christmas morning.,after around 100 people, Strangers had been in that house all day able to do ax they please. Jon Benet was a target for pedophiles through no fault of her own or anyone's. Only predators are at fault. Ad to interrogate a 9 yr old significantly disabled (by the way I can't think of an autistic person to have murdered) but anyway, had the puce not completely botched this investigation things likely would be solved . Alas they seem very consistent in botching same. Look at all Lori Vallow 's victims. The police took zero heed .
@@mrsbutterkup3849 it's very upsetting .. the police have to take more seriously suspicion of potential SLAUGHTER of girls, children And ALL. Police must Make PREVENTION their priority over body searches .
@@mrsbutterkup3849 at the same time I would never want to be her parents. I can't imagine the horror, fear and guilt they just have endured. Pedophiles are MONSTERS.
They found a random not And called the cops immediately. One cop came. She attempted to control the scene but let gazillion of their friends to contaminate it.She directed everyone to remain I the living room. When she finally decided to call for backup, she's a asked John abd one of his friends whom she allowed in to search the house. This was a fairly LARGE house, about 4000 sq ft I think. Everyone was hysterical. Why did only one cop respond and screw up the crime scene,.
I was 10 when my mom told me that my dad died. I didn’t know how to respond so I reacted how people in movies did. I knew they were dramatic so I was dramatic. I wasn’t upset though, I wasn’t upset about it until months later when it finally hit me and I’m guessing he was in that same shock about his sisters death. I’m glad they didn’t deep dive on the videos of him as a kid, since they were at such a traumatic point of his life.
Why would kidnappers leave a ransom note for the parents just to murder her before they even see it? Why didn’t anyone search the basement long before she was found? This kid is supposedly socially awkward and doesn’t show emotion. Grinning ear to ear is an emotion.
His guilty knowledge may be of his sister being abused. At age 9 he could have seen something that he didn’t understand and he lacked the maturity to process it. Family secrets may be buried with that unfortunate little girl.
That ending 😂😂 mark is amazing as the hallmark Christmas girl sipping pumpkin spice latte.. He looks incredible cheerful holding his mug when Greg and Scott talks hallmark movies 😊😊
I was so afraid that I was going to have to argue with the four of you. Since this interview with Dr. Phil aired, I've always declared Burke was telling the truth. It's criminal the way people have falsely accused him of murder. So glad you agree with me!!! LOL
You're right. He sued Dr. Phil and CBS for this hatchet job and won. I'm sad that the panel admires Dr, Phil so much. He's a flim flam man, a fake psychologist who lost his license to practice, and a bully. Burke Ramsey, especially if he's on the spectrum. has had more than enough abuse. I agree with every word you said.
His life ended at nine years old. Yes, he is alive but everything in his life from that point on was tragic. A young boy his whole world was changed. I have never thought he did it even when it happened. I suspected the mom but now think a family acquaintence and the parents covered for them. The parents were strange.
Actually, when he was a little boy he was quite jealous of the perceived attention that his sister got from their mother leading him to wipe his 💩 all over his sister's belongings. He really did resent Jon Benet and I would not be surprised if it ever came out that he had something to do with this case.
@@rnladyn906 It doesn’t seem like the family, if this were true, would be discussing such a personal family matter. How would the press be able to verify such a story as accurate?
It's almost 01:00 here in Ireland and as I was about to put my phone away and get some shuteye, then I noticed this had popped up in my notifications. Well, there goes my sleep out the window 😂.Enjoy the glass of 🍷. 💚🇮🇪
@chrislastnam6822 I agree and Dr Phil said as much when talking to Joe Rogan. They were not speaking of this case specifically but he said if the explanation takes more than 5 seconds, it’s very likely they did it. Saying “no” takes one second.
This poor young man lost his sister in the most brutal fashion, had to see his parents accused and harassed, then he himself was accused. Thank you for helping to put his smile into context, pointing out his open body language, and to help kill the defamation of this unjustly vilified young man who has suffered far too much.
My son is a nervous smiler. People don’t really get it. He poured boiling water over his chest when little and giggled the whole time they painfully took off his dressing. It s what he does in times of stress 🤷♀️
I was in an elevator that stopped working with a violent jerk, and the lights flashed on and off. My ex boyfriend was piss your pants terrified but my reaction was to start hysterically laughing and say "Of all the places to die, it's here with you." He was pretty mad.
All you need is one psychiatrist to believe in something, now its true, they are very fast to label. Shyness 100%. I thank you for sharing, its sad how they piled up on him. I wonder if he knew Dr.Phil was adding four more to the mix.
I've been binge watching this RUclips channel for days 😂🤷🏼♀️ I love these guys and can't get enough.. I actually feel like I'm learning something.. My little ones better watch out now because Mommy is slowly learning the tricks to the trade on truth telling 🤣
I finally got curious enough about what the backwards sound clip at the end of your videos is saying. It is the incredible Peter Falk as Columbo saying "Oh listen, there's one other thing I wanted to ask you about" from an episode of Columbo titled Lovely But Lethal, in case anyone is wondering!
@@TheBehaviorPanel That comment feels like it was in the passion plane, or maybe even the ecstatic! Haha ^_^ I'm glad that you seem so happy to have it figured out!
Greg Hartley, in the video, he said "very quietly" and not "very silently," in the part referring to someone very quietly carried her down. Much respect to all 4 of you guys!!! Love what you're doing here!!!
Very interesting comment Scott. It would explain a lot if Burke's parents believed he killed his sister and tried to cover for him with the ransom note. Never thought of this case that way.
Yes I agree, Diana. I thought it was odd that Patsy comes into his room saying “Where’s my baby?” I think this comes across as accusatory. This video was the first I had heard that he had hit his sister with a golf club and had done things with feces. But as a child with obvious problems, he needs protection too.
I think John did it.. maybe he convinced Patsy that Burke did it and they constructed a plan to cover. If the dad threw his socially awkward son under the bus, that is just.. well, he's a psychopath. I think the father is guilty. Hands down.
People on here are throwing science out he was cleared by police they found DNA which they know was male but it didn't match burk or the father . Also all the parents of autistic kids need to stop as Dr Phil said he was not autistic . He said it was anxiety .
I have a 34 year old son with Asperger Syndrome, when I first saw this interview years ago I immediately thought Burke had AS. I see so many similarities between Burke and my son in both speech patterns and body language.
For balance you should analyse John Ramsey.....there is an interview 5 days after murder (where Patsy is heavily sedated)....John Ramsey seems to feign saddness and quickly smile to himself. He is a full on "romancer" in every interview he does. He makes me feel very ill at ease.
@@briarrose29 Yes, that was a great analysis of Patsy Ramsey, she comes across as an extremely obnoxious, cold and condescending individual. It's gone 04:00 here now 🙈🙈🙈 goodnight/good morning 💚🇮🇪
@@fuzzyfreckle1341 Same thing in Australia with Lindy Chamberlain, the woman jailed for killing her baby when a dingo (wild dog) did.Lindy was cold, unlikable, immaculately dressed and seriously religious. Judged guilty by the majority before trial, wrongfully imprisoned, released and given an undisclosed amount by the government for her pain and suffering.Btw, is that an Irish flag? Love the Irish.🍀
Burke kept saying, "that's not what happened". Therefore, he knows what happened, in fact, he admits to the child psychologist that he knew what happened.
I just started watching your channel. Question: have you thought of replaying the video you are discussing while you are talking instead of having all your faces on screen? You could have that video going at the bottom of the screen while you're talking and the video plays. It would help us to see what you see.
Whatever happened in that house that morning was from within...to have two children, one constantly wets the bed and the other spreads extriment around the house and on food...something was definitely going on.both children were under pressure for sure,the little girl in beauty pagents and the boy most likely had to try and show a high academic level,I honestly feel the mother was responsible.
Yep. I've heard the bed-wetting is a sure sign of sexual abuse. They say Patsy was a lousy mother and housekeeper. At the very least, she imposed her ideas of fame like a stage mother on JonBenet and totally neglected poor - - what's his name? (I really just totally blanked on his name, LOL.)
I agree this feels heavily of child abuse. There is definitely more to the story. I personally think a friend of the father or mother might have done it.
There is something so off about this guy. I’m not saying he did it, it might just be mild autism or something like that but smiling like that while talking about your sisters SA and murder creeps me out.
One time when i was a teenager working at an ice cream shop my boss was scolding me for something and i was smiling so that i wouldnt cry. Eventually he questioned my smile and i was mortified! Smiles definitely can mean different things
I am Asperger and this man is also. The movements he does with hands are also typical for spectrum disorder. I have no idea how body language can be applied to a neuro-typical person. I wish law enforcement and other authorities had more knowledge about how we act
Since so many austic, scatola , and asperger people seem to claim being extraordinary at understanding this family and burke, maybe you should form a team and solve the crime.
That doesn't explain his constant creepy smiling. You only mentioned his hand movements as being normal But cannot in good conscience admit his smiling is completely creepy and wrong
The fact he's smiling during the interview means he's not really all there. Almost like he's still a kid mentally 🤔 Who ever talked him into the interview should be ashamed.
I would love to see you guys do an analysis of the OJ Simpson, If I Did It video, that was released several years ago. I think it would be a fantastic insight into the mind of a "killer". He says that he is using a great deal of supposed fantasizing, but I believe he's actually REMEMBERING what happened that night. It would be awesome to see your thoughts.
I second that, I would love to see what these guys make of them. Very interesting case. I am inclined to believe them. I wonder if they would get the same impression.
@@GirlFriday68 Me too. These boys were psychologically shredded by an abusive father- and an indifferent mother. And Jose’s Polaroid pic of his little boy’ heads cut off with just their torsos and genitalia exposed? Good grief.
Ever since Burke’s interview with Dr. Phill, I have believed that he killed his sister….because of the smiling. Thank you for explaining situations & how our bodies respond unconsciously that I, as a layperson, have very limited knowledge of. I no longer assume guilt because of a smile.
Recomendation: the 2014 interview by Matt Lauer with Dottie Sandusky, (wife of Penn St. football coach Jerry Sandusky) She demonstrates MANY things you guys have taught us. Jerry at that time was already in prison and she insists he is innocent but fails miserabally in answering tough questions. PLEASE?
It has to be said that he’s not an uncomfortable 20 year old. He’s like 35. So, he’s definitely an unusual person. I’m sad this incident has been so destructive to his life. *** Correction Burke was 29 at the time of this interview***
I have felt so sad for this family and especially 9 year old Burke for this terrible event that put them in the most unjust and cruel spotlight with uncalled for speculations.
@@cynsmi Yes, I DO feel bad for Burke. However, there were some very bad things going on in that family that led to his sister’s death. It’s trapped in his brain. He can barely function..
In my opinion, Patsy Ramsey's obession with Jon Benoit was detrimental to Burke, inflicted emotional distress on him to an extent his reaction was primal - fecal smearing. Scott's conclusion provides rationale and, if true, answers a lot of questions.
Doesn't anyone understand the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Burke lives with. He was 9, it was Christmas time. Could you imagine at 9 being accused by adults being questioned over & over for the rest of your life being asked "did you kill your sister?" Every Christmas he probably relives that morning. The public still can't stop asking him. People need to leave him alone, let him have a life Burke did great coming & being willing to be grilled all over again. I hope he can find peace in his life. Most people would take on some guilt for being the child who survived. Love , Peace to everyone. 🕊
If his stupid parents had cooperated from the start of the investigation and the inexperienced Boulder PD had actually treated them like normal suspects instead of wealthy elites, Burke might have a normal life today, even if he did kill his sister. I think it was Patsy who killed JonBenet, not Burke, but what I’m saying is, even if it WAS Burke, they could have managed it- if it was accidental, nothing would even happen; if it was on purpose, he’d have been examined and treated (probably by the best therapists money could buy). His parents ruined his life in many ways by stage-managing everything and throwing their financial weight around instead of humbly seeking to aid the investigation in any way they could.
To clearly have not read the entire online police report there is a police photo of an entry door ajar there is a boot print photo in evidence of a boot that did not match ramseys
THERE IS THE SAME UNKNOWN MALE DNA IN THE UNDERWEAR AND UNDER THE FINGERNAILS OF A MURDER/ SEXAL ASSAULT VICTIM!!!!! America can’t be this stupid. There is more of a chance that I’m Jimmy Hoffa, than that DNA not being related to the crime.
saying for the sake of argument he's on the ASD spectrum: When he was a kid the most common form of therapy was ABA. That version of ABA in that era (it has changed some since then and there are different types of ABA) you are trained to smile all the time. Because reading the non verbal cues of others can sometimes be very hard, they used to teach kids to smile no matter what, as if the act of smiling would make people like them regardless of all other interaction. This is only speculation but I really think he went through ABA and that accounts for a lot of his body language.
Very Interesting... As someone who wasn't diagnosed with BP till I was 35, it is amazing to learn about autism. I exhibited some of the symptoms, but it was WAY before anyone even used the term Bipolar, let alone Autism. Can Autism be brought on by abuse or is someone born with it?
@@outofthegutterart5636 autism is the way your brain works and you're born with it. BP is a chemical imbalance in the brain that might be influenced by trauma. BPD (borderline personality disorder) is caused in part by trauma. Dissociative disorders like DID/OSDD is caused by trauma (this is not to be confused with non disordered plurality). We have DID so we've done layman's research on it.
@@outofthegutterart5636 Bipolar Disorder is frequently a co-morbid diagnosis with Autism. The only time I’ve heard of Autism having a cause is in “institutional Autism.” Kids who spent several years in Eastern European orphanages, for example, and were not exposed to reciprocal affection, sometimes go on to develop institutional Autism.
I saw a documentary on what the police did and didn't do during the work with this case and I can say that they handled the case super poorly, it was a total mess.
Linda Arndt was holding press conferences intimating she knew who the killer was, but she couldn't say. She came across as a bug eyed fool and very unprofessional. She knew squat because. the evidence was not examined. She hinted John Ramsey was the killer because of their interchange when he laid next to his dead little girl and she had the gall to lie on the other side of Jonbenet as if she was a family member.She was a nitwit.
I agree. It was a crime scene whether it was a kidnapping or murder. Why would cops allow their friends into the house and let them send Burke away. They should have all been separated before they could get their stories straight. The cops bungled this and still are. They won’t release DNA samples to labs that know what they are doing.
If you go back to the kid being asked about how he was told she was dead, he mentions his father saying he had found her body in the basement, and then saying that his dad was saying something to himself- which was more information than one would expect from a child with his condition, but it is probably exactly what one should expect from a child with his condition: he knows a lot. He had a lot of confidence saying he did not kill her, and probably learned pretty quickly not to incriminate his parents with anything he says.
I've always thought it was inhumane of Dr Phil to have done this interview w Burke without any acknowledgement that he may be on the spectrum. He knew how it would look and exploited this guy. I appreciate the panel weighing in (and Scott's theory at the end)
It's amazing how Oprah manages to bring people on-board because she believes they're brilliant in their field of expertise, when they actually possess neither. Neither does she. Hate when the Panel sucks up to anyone famous (except my Scott).
@@tenderheart7530 I feel the same. I don’t understand why people allow Phil to exploit them. It should be criminal to have anyone under 18 on his show.
As an autistic person, I’m rather saddened by all of the bigoted responses in the comment section-even from people who claim to be parents of autistic children. I’m saddened but not surprised. Because of my autism I’ve personally faced bigotry, stigma, and hatred my whole life. I’ve been called “creepy” and a “freak”. I’ve been ridiculed by teachers in front of my peers. I’ve been bullied and beaten by “normal” people. I’ve struggled to adapt to a world built by and for neurotypical people. The so-called “normal” people. I’ve come to fear “normal” people. And that is a rational fear. Because they have an amazing ability to be duplicitous, something my neurotype prevents me from being successful at. I’ve also learned that “normal” people seem blind to my strengths, my honesty, my integrity, my ability to hyper-focus on tasks, to solve complex and abstract problems, and to visualize things in my head. They see only my need to stim, my inability to make eye contact, and my sensory processing sensitivity. I’m not trying to make this about myself. But I am actually autistic, so I think my voice is just as valid, maybe even more so, than those who are judging this young man for the way he looks and acts. In the end, it seems to me that it says more about the quality of the character of those who would judge this young man-those who call him a “creep” or pretend that they can know he murdered his little sister-than it says anything about Burke Ramsey; whether he is autistic or not. May JonBenet be free from suffering. May the Ramsey’s be free from suffering. May all beings be free from suffering. May we learn to be kinder to one another.
I'm so sorry for the way so many people respond to others who are not neurotypical. My deceased brother-in-law was tormented by his older brother (my narcissistic former spouse), and he suffered greatly from it. Yes, may we all learn to be kinder to one another. And to animals too.
Retired Sp-Ed teacher here- hang in there and know you’re beautiful!! Shameful how spiritual beings (humans) havin a physical experience (our lives on Earth in our bodies) have to repeatedly return bc we all haven’t learned what love is!! How many years has it been since humans were created? Live. Die. Live. treat others cruelly. Die. Return. Its crazy how dense we are here! I think you’re great! Be you and be happy! You are special and loved! We will figure out eventually! Not in this lifetime thougj!!
I am also on the spectrum and I know we are all different. I have also suffered horribly from the judgment of others. I encourage you not to judge allistic people the way you feel judged by them. Just be yourself, and whoever misjudges you, it’s their problem, not yours. Don’t be like the people that hurt you.
You guys are spot on about the smile!! My oldest daughter is Aspergers. When she was small, I had to teach her "normal" reactions so she wouldn't stick out in a negative way to her school mates. One of THE biggest issues I had to get through to her was NOT smiling if she got in trouble, even though she was innocent, because as I told her, "If the teacher is mad at you and you start smiling at her, it comes across as smarty pants! So whatever you have to do, if you can't wipe that smile off of your face while she is dressing you down, put your hand in front of your mouth and HIDE THAT SMILE!!!" It was one of THE most important reactions I had to drill her in. Autistic people do NOT react to stressful situations the same way neurotypical people do! It's quite often, the exact opposite! They aren't trying to hide how they are feeling. They are trying to diffuse YOUR discomfort and make you happy again.
@@lizj7217 Thank you! If I had a penny for every time people thought they understood my daughter, based on her confusing reactions, I'd be very rich. I've asked her many times why she would show one expression or do something weird that made no sense, and she was never able to explain it to me, often just saying, "I don't know" (sincerely). Intellectually, she knew it made no sense. But emotionally, it felt right to her at the time. It's heartbreaking, when you know your child is pure hearted but other's judge her actions based on neurotypical responses. :'(
Something is off. Patsy Ramsey stated to 9-1-1 that her son was currently sleeping, but in this interview he states she bursted into his room and woke him up.
After a life of being "Famous Murdered Child's Brother," I imagine he has the habit of smiling to attempt to normalize and disarm the curiosity that meets him everywhere.
You know something? I think you've made the most intelligent comment so far in this whole thread, and conveyed a clear message that a psyche from that perspective, is going to make it pretty hard to get a proper read on the guy. I've watched this vid more than once and I am far from an expert but I personally find it quite difficult to pin certain things down, like that smile or his eyebrows, but tbh, I do think he's actually innocent, but I'm not entirely sure if he was at least a partial witness and that memory may have been suppressed extremely deeply. I wouldn't be surprised if they've done a few tests on him over the years, including hypnosis and other deep psyche techniques. If he IS guilty, then he's probably the best innocent-acting guilty person I've ever seen anyway. I think! Off the top of my head lol
also I would like to point out that his hand movements - he's touching each finger with the thumb - it's a common self-calming tick that some autistic people do. for some it can be rocking back and forth etc. It's called stimming.
I'm sorry but psychopaths, "act " amazingly! That's why he's trying to "impress" Dr. PHIL. He's VERY intelligent. You remember exactly where you are, what the climate was like, when something tragic happens, even at age 9!
The thing about 9 year olds is they are easy to manipulate, especially if they have a mental disability. If you look at other cases where children murdered, they may try to hold out the lie for a moment but very quickly they break. If he did it, he would have eventually succumbed to the interrogation and admitted it, children don’t keep lies inside for years while adults are trying to pry for the truth. I really don’t think he did it, I think an adult did.
I remember when this first hit the news. I told my room mate "Wanna bet she didn't win the last pageant she was in?" A few days later the news confirmed that & I have firmly believed the mother did it ever since
You guys missed the most important part. When Dr. Phil asks if he thinks he would have heard if anything happened that night…his facial expressions and answer were THE most telling and I’m not an expert. Not sure if he did it, but I DO think he knows something. I did appreciate your take on the majority of this! Thank you! ❤
My son is on the spectrum and yrs ago a lunch lady reprimanded him at lunch and he smiled...she took it to mean he was laughing about everything. He always smiled when he got in what he perceived was a stressful situation. She harassed him because of it. People don't understand that being on the spectrum shows up very off for 'normal' people. On the way to elementary school parties or sleepovers he and I would practice the correct responses to questions he may face, unless you've experienced it, it is very hard to understand. He is a beautiful person who just doesn't process social cues
Absolutely, I’m on the spectrum and definitely get my reactions and smiles “wrong” as the outside world would see it. Personally, I believe Burke is on the spectrum.
I believe Burke was almost 10 years old. He had anger and rage towards JonBonet. He crushed her skull with the flashlight when she took a piece of his pineapple. Parents staged the rest of the crime to protect Burke.
No a pedo that the family associated with harmed her. Police have DNA that with technological advances would point to the true killer, but they drag their feet.
That smile, while discussing the worst day of this family’s life, looks odd. If that’s part of his “condition”, I have no idea why he would agree to this interview or why anyone would advise him to do this interview because it only leads to criticism and suspicion.
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Nope, not at all.
I am fascinated!
i used to smile at everything. all the time. and most imortantly, i will start smiling right before i have an anxious episode or a panick attack. i learned from a therapist that smiling can be a form of self soothing, trying to sooth negative emotions from overwhelming. its a coping mechanism for sure.
I hear you. Smiling and laughing. People used to think I was so happy when in reality I was constantly anxious and stressed.
I used to react with a smile to certain situations until I noticed the reactions around me. I wasn't happy about what was going on, my smile was a nervous reaction. I learned to change that over time and look concerned instead of nervous smile.
Me too, I smile or have a nervous laugh
Great example of how a common, garden variety behavior can utterly ruin a life. Surely a system so out of touch with reality is worse than no system at all.
I had a friend who some girls told her that her dad had molested them and she started laughing. She explained that it happens when she's freaked out
There's a reason these guys have locked down over 200k subscribers in less than a year. Its good stuff.
My son was 5 yrs old when his sister was born. At first he played with her, but over a few years he became angry with her. He urinated on her favorite stuffed bunny and threw it behind his bookcase. I saw this and intervened and got him help.
@@jacquelinejacobson6789 Good observation and follow-up. What did it turn out to be? I bet a a lot of parents wouldn’t have intervened, and then it would’ve definitely gotten worse. You’re a good mom.
Don't mind me I'm just leaving this here for the algorithm. Congratulations on 200k subscribers!
Loving this chain-comment Here’s mine!
I will join you all! Pretty sure these are included in how many comments there are!
Wtf?
Holy cow I'm so excited!!!!!! I asked for a Burke analysis, I feel so heard even though I'm sure a hundred others also wanted to see him done. Thank you gentleman!!! I can't wait to watch.
I feel the same way!! I love these guys. So genuine and informative
My daughter has ASD - this was like watching my daughter being interviewed. It was hard for me.
Random hug of encouragement...
I have a family member with asperger's, it was definitely like watching him
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I think he did really well and is innocent. Bless him. He’s beautiful
Me too, my munchkin does also. This one was rough but I’m so glad they covered it
Its really odd that Patsy Ramsey didn't run into Burks room to make sure he was OK and to ask if he heard anything.
Just the same way it's odd that the McCanns twins never woke up with what was going on around them. Not even when being lifted out from their cots did they ever flinch or give a sign of waking up. The police noted their observation as ODD indeed.
Even father before coming cop. If I have the same situation, My husband or I one of us, need to stay with Berke for not losing or trouble like JonBenet cause still they didn’t know what happened. But they kept Berke in the bed by himself?
This kid is close to home for me. My son is autistic, and I have nightmares my son will be misunderstood. The thought of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and being questioned by people who don’t understand. Keeps me up at night, and ages me
I hear ya
Yep this is what happened to poor Elijah McClaine. He wasn't neurotypical and his lack of eye contact made him look suspicious.
That DID happen to my son who has Landau-Kleffner Syndrome, which is a way of saying, "I'm sorry this vaccine went wrong and fried your child's previously normal brain.) Nightmare!!! He was accused of burglary and was so totally misunderstood. The police accused him of being "strange" because he was doing drugs, even testing him 6 times, convinced it just had to be drugs. When all tests came back negative, the court (who finally found him innocent of burglary) appointed him to take a Drugs and Alcohol class anyway, saying that we found a way to dupe the test and that was why he had passed it. 4 court dates, 6 therapy sessions and 2 months of drug classes and they finally realized this kid was not guilty of anything other than having a brain fried from a vaccine gone wrong. My poor son! Based on our experience, my heart goes out to this young Ramsey fellow! How confusing it must have been for him! Thank you Behavioral Panel for recognizing this young man's limitations.
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Clicked so fast, I had hoped you guys would talk about him. This man is clearly on the spectrum and he is from a family where appearances are everything, his smile is habitual. Great analysis.
No one is _clearly_ on the spectrum.
@@r.c.miller6161 trolls always say people are jealous whether or not. Also Patsy was not married to a man 20 years older. So get your facts straight when you go out of your way to insult somebody.
My sister tried to turn her only daughter into a star from a very young age and it really went nowhere but we also watched her only son get totally neglected. He couldn't wait to be away from his family. Its a very sad situation to watch. And Dad didn't get involved. Who really knows what happens in a childs life when growing up where one feels totally invisible.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Burke and John are VERY close still.
Um.. I imagine most kids out there these days ARE neglecting. And feel neglected with their parents staring at their phones 24/7! And they give their kids a phone at 2 years old and neglect them.. this worlds about to get a million times WORSE!!!
@@amandahugenkiss Burke is terrified of being killed too... both his sisters were killed by John, Burke is beyond traumatized from the abuse.
When JonBenet was three she saw a pageant on TV and was enchanted. She started playing a game she called presenting. She would have her mom, dad, or Burke announce “presenting Miss JonBenet” and she would come out and sing and dance. A friend told Patsy that there was a pageant coming up in Boulder in a couple of weeks. There wasn’t much time but they made a costume and came up with an act. I think she sang On the good ship lollipop. She was runner up. Nobody forced JonBenet into pageants. She loved them. She just sparkled. Kids don’t do that if they are forced into something.
@@MM-ig1iv Beth and her boyfriend died in a car accident just outside of Chicago. John was in Boulder. Stop telling lies. The DNA evidence totally excludes anyone related to JonBenet, or don’t you know how DNA works?
It came out that the Grand Jury DID want to press charges against Patsy and John when those records were unsealed. Why that was not followed up on, we’ll never know. 🎉🧐🤔 Oh, yeah. Because he’s a rich guy.
Totally. If they were black someone if not all would be in jail! ❤
He almost became child like when he was answering about the video of himself. Thank you all for spending your time teaching us. It's my favorite part of my week.😊
I was in a long term abusive relationship and I had to learn how to keep still and my expression neutral and even though I’m out of that situation I still find myself exhibiting those behaviors,sometimes things like that can be shaped by trauma
I would love to see y’all do an analysis on The 60 Minutes Interview of Mohammad Al-Fayed. There are many different interviews on his feelings about his son, Dodi, and Princess Diana being murdered. Since we are hearing so much about other Royals, I would love to see one on this theory. Thank you!
Displaying a child in pageant after pageant is so scary. Not good parenting in my opinion. He is weird because grew up in a weird family. Patsy, what a piece.
I 100% agree with Chase, Burke appears to be on the spectrum. My grandson was diagnosed at 18 months and and smiling is his baseline, even when experiencing pain. Good call Chase.
There are so many commenters saying "Burke is on the spectrum." Yeah? So? That neither implicates nor absolves him of the crime. It only explains some of his odd mannerisms. But there are clear signs of deception in the childhood interviews, like him refusing to acknowledge his favorite snack, or what was in the bowl, because he knows what the significance is. It's a shame that wealth and privilege have allowed him to avoid justice.
You can’t diagnose people with autism. You aren’t a mental health professional
Okay, so the peacock feather display behind Greg is very interesting...
It's the first time we've seen it on the channel.
It's a deviation from his usual background baseline.
I think it tells us a lot.
I'm just surprised Mark didn't pick up on it.
Bahahahaha Love this. I was waiting for an explanation on the background for Greg... However he mentioned his sister gave him the pageant smile idea. So I assumed he was at his sisters house.
I sent the video of MM to my mother and she goes, omg, 2hrs! I can't watch all that. The next day she said she watched the whole thing and went back over certain parts. In a sea of mediocrity that is YT content, you guys are gold.
Why doesn't phil ask him why he keeps smiling
He already knows why. He said later he knew it was just an anxiety tick
If Greg was interrogating me I'd reckon my first sentence would be 'yeah,I did it'😅😅😅
I'd say.. Well Greg, wait until you see the Fan Art I created for you 😂 that would stop him in his tracks fairly quickly!!!! 💚🇮🇪
Right?!
Yes! 😁
I'd confess to mark if he'd promise me a night at the pub before wrapping up the rest of my life in prison. 😆😆😂
Woooow!
I feel sorry for this guy. I want to say boy, because that is how he comes across. There are so many forms of child abuse and this whole pageant world is, for me, legally abusing children. He was a boy so had to take second best to the fame hungry mum living her dream through her daughter. Yes the smile is weird but his childhood world was weird and abnormal. All siblings fight. The poor kid didn't have a normal childhood so no wonder his body language is different to most of us. He comes across quite relaxed regardless, considering who he's in front of. I feel for him. His whole life has been about his sister when she was alive and still now when she is dead. He's another victim here.
And... Maybe he killed her
@@christopherjohnson3520 Maybe? That’s a vague word that would be thrown out of court. Maybe the mother did it. Maybe the bloke next door did it. Maybe the father did it. Maybe...
Go to 52:05 it shows a stick tired to the rope used to strangle her, why would an adult need that setup to strangle a little girl? And the slenderman stabbing as well as other equally horrible attacks by children on other children has shown kids can and do kill.
@@sciencescripture , when he was questioned at 9 the detective asked how she died , he answered stabbing or knife , he was unaware exactly how she died. He never said anything about strangling at nine years old.
@@sciencescripture Did you take a good look at that rope and the way it was tied? That's not an ordinary knot and it's tied really tightly. This is a boy who's life was about his mother's dreams for the pageant world. Where would a nine year old learn to tie a knot like that? Would a nine year old know how to even tie a knot like that. I remember being nine and not having any know how like that and I had a freer lifestyle and more practical adults around me. I wouldn't have had the strength for a start. To tie a knot like that and have the know how, then actually strangle the child would take some planning and a lot of strength. Also she died in 1996 when Google wasn't even around, so unless they had S&M books around the house, or boating, where would he even learn how to strangle her? They don't seem like they were let out of sight to even pee in peace with a mother as dominating as that. On top of that he had to drag her body down to the cellar, unless of course the parents did, but then I'd definitely be calling the police on my own kid had he done that. Let's not forget that she was the mothers apple. I know kids have killed before but I've never heard of them being so sophisticated at that age. They set things on fire or perhaps get hold of a gun or even hit them with something. For a nine year old, as insulated from real life, as that boy, it'd be a miracle he could even tied his shoe laces let alone create a knot like that!
My autism/aspergers was difficult enough for my parents (father with aspergers, mother NT). It must have been a tremendous challenge for his mother, who was so social and invested in appearances. After many years practice I can mimic NT for 15 to 20 minutes but I have to invest a great deal in it, and my responses to questions suffer. It's very draining and almost ensures I'll be non verbal for several hours afterward. If I am interrogated, I drop all of the fake NT, which probably makes me weirder, but at least I can keep talking.
Theirs nothing weird about aspergers. you're gifted people.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
There are many difficulties to overcome. I know it's really hard for my son. Teen years are extra tough. There may be gifts that some have - not all - but there are many challenges.
What is NT?
@@DopamineDecor I was interested too and looked it up. Neurotypical or non-autistic.
He is devious! He basically challenged the world when he said, "No, prove it." That's aggression/anger. He is NOT innocent!
@@SB-nj4bk How did he get that man’s DNA is her underwear & under her fingernails.
My first thought when I saw his smile was that he had picked up the fake pageant smile as a kid watching his mom and Jon Binet prepare for pageants. So your sister isn't alone, Greg.
You were very
Insightful!
Burke could possibly be insane.
Idk. I couldn't smile talk if say, my Mom was killed. That man-child shows NO affection for JonBenet. Regardless of being on the spectrum. One could still feel sadness.
@@kemeee5407 He may not have liked her, even resented her. I prefer he be genuine in that case.
@@r.c.miller6161 I just mean that we shouldn't expect him to show grief if he doesn't feel it. If he is autistic, this may be something he would have trouble with. And I would rather he be himself (as he is doing in the interview) than try to show emotion he doesn't have. I don't know if he is actually autistic, but I do know he was traumatized. That is another layer. I can't imagine what it would be like to be accused of murder your whole life on top of losing a sibling and later your mom. Anything he does in an interview would be disected by millions. I am glad that tbere are people like the panel who can do so with objectivity and logic.
Mark cuddling his mug with his vulnerable wrists covered and the Hallmark movie discussion was worth the price of admission. lol
"vulnerable wrists" 😂😂
Absolutely! Mark, once again injecting some comedy gold 😂 and remember the last video (Peterson), Mark did his hilarious imitation of the juror!
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It is so true though. I knew EXACTLY what he meant
It was Hallmark beautiful. And Scott made a brave admission.
I think Scott NAILED it🙌🏻. You guys work SO well together!!!
Autistic individuals can be deviant...psychopathy is not mutually exclusive! To me, he would be the only reason why the parents would be protective and create that weird letter (they wouldn't protect each other over their daughter). No footprints on snow; from what I heard- he was the golden child not Jon Binet..On another note, you can see with his clear blue eyes how beautiful Jon Binet would have been if she made it past 10! Horrible case. The police did botch this case (because they had money). I'm sorry, but the glee on his face is very strange. Very detached individual irregardless.
Beauty pageant participation is a bad idea for young children and even families.
Agreed. Especially if there are other kids in the family as they get shortchanged on time and attention.
@@yarnpower yeah I don’t think the healthiest “families” tend to get into those types of things in general…. So all the kids are abused regardless to some extent…… just not as badly as they would be, forced into these “beauty” *cough*ped0 pagents..
It is no less healthy than young girls flouncing around in revealing outfits in gymnastics or ice skating. It is just the dirty minded who see a difference.
However, in beauty contests people outside the families and judges are not allowed unlike with the scantily clad "athletes" doing the splits and other such moves in front of crowds of onlookers.
@@vernonfrance2974 I think the difference is that things like gymnastics and ice skating aren't built upon the foundation of aesthetic beauty being of the highest value. You don't win a ballet competition by looking good in a tutu or having your make up done a certain way.
@@vernonfrance2974 It's not about the revealing outfits, it's about the terrible environment it puts children in. Beauty pageants aren't healthy competitions, they're exploitative vanity parades where pushy mothers treat their daughters like Barbie dolls. With the case of Jonbenet's mother, it's certain she cared more how the beauty pageants reflected back on her with her friends than she did about her own daughter's well-being. And yeah, unlike skating and gymnastics, it does teach these girls from a young age to put value on aesthetic beauty. Just let kids be kids.
When I was six years old, I was given an IQ test. I only got one answer wrong - when I was asked, "What are windows made of?" My answer was, "Molten and compressed sand." She counted it as wrong because the 'correct answer was "glass." When I pointed out that 'window' is essentially synonymous with 'glass,' she got mad. At that point, at the tender age of six, I decided that everything that had to do with so-called 'education' was bullshit. That lady marking my answer wrong makes me angry 55 years later.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what it's like living with ASD.
This is such a great insight in to your experience. Also, that would infuriate me too!I What a silly woman.
I had the same problem. I passed a MENSA test at 13 and they called my parents liars because they didn't believe a kid that age could score so high. At age 5 I was reading novels while my class were reading whatever they were reading in 1980. I was put in a classroom on my own because I was so far advanced. Back then they had no idea how to deal with kids like us mate. At least there is help for kids nowadays, so they can get the guidance they need. Try not to let anger cloud who you really are. You're giving her ignorance power over you, and you are better than that. She didn't know any better mate, but we do. It's nice to see others like me are about. Nerds rule 🤘✊😁👍
My nephew has mild autism. It was more pronounced when he was a child. He’s incredibly intelligent and articulate. At 6 foot 6 inches he’s a gentle giant. At 4 years of age he knew everything there was to know about flight and aeroplanes. His parents would spend most weekends at Heathrow and Gatwick airports in London so he could watch airplanes. He could describe each type of plane right down to each and every last component. His drawings were astounding. At 20 he’s now training to become a physiotherapist in the mental health sector.❤️
My Dad always had a saying for people like the woman who conducted your IQ test....‘You’re not very good at your job are you?!?!’😂
@@UberFubar75
At seven my daughter had a reading age and vocabulary of a 12 year old. I was told she was classed as a borderline gifted child, yet we received no help or guidance for this. She went from a village primary school with 147 children into a secondary school aged 11 with 2, 300 other students. Having obvious developing mental health issues (now diagnosed as bipolar and borderline Aspergers) she could not cope in these overwhelming surroundings. She was a victim of perpetual vicious attacks from bullies which only made her situation worse. She ended up being classed under the term ‘school refusal’ where the school and education authority only succeeded in giving me a near nervous breakdown, my daughter trying to take her own life 4 times, her running away to other counties several times and landing me in court (I had no lawyer, but stood my defence and was only fined £5!!) for not succeeding to keep my child in secondary education. They even tried moving her round every secondary school in my area, at a horrendous expense (nearly 3 grand when I worked on the minimum wage) to me each time for school uniform. Hence she left school with no qualifications, but has since qualified as a manicurist/ nail technician and is running her own business as a successful and talented nail artist. She’s even had some of her work printed in fashion magazines. I’m incredibly proud of her. Not bad for a ‘school refuser’ and a kid thrown out of art college in her first week for not being very artistic!!
Keep doing what you do, it’s your life and happiness that matters.
Believe me it’s the nerds that will out-survive the rest of humanity.❤️
@@UberFubar75 There is nothing as depressing as a Mensa Meeting. The AA Meetings feel like a circus compared to them.
I think you guys are officially my favorite content creators. So interesting, what you do. Thanks for sharing!
Sibling rivalry is a real thing. And it can be very dangerous/fatal if no parent intervenes. Before the murder there were reported incidences of Burke lashing out in physical aggression towards his sister. Also the time of year is significant. His sister was probably lavished with Christmas gifts. He may have felt jealous and angry. Just my theory
Wrong. Patsy did it.
@@Moluccan56 killed her favorite kid? Sure. What would be her motive? I certainly wouldn’t buy the soiled bed theory, Burke was sh***ing on everything, why wouldn’t he have gotten it first?
@ you would have to understand how sick Patsy was. She wasn’t normal so you can’t apply any logic or reason to her motive. JB was a plaything, a toy dolly. Patsy lived through JB and her visibility vicariously. What normal mother sexualizes her daughter at ANY time of her life, never mind at the age of 6 and younger. I don’t know what made Patsy snap but she knew she had terminal ovarian cancer. She knew her days were numbered and she was terribly narcissistic. Her neighbours reported hearing Patsy screaming at Jon Benet on many occasions so imagine that there were times she did it without them hearing her. Her demeanour, the fake note, their actions after the police got involved, it’s open and shut for me. Patsy never appeared to be a grieving parent, she was arrogant and defensive. I am glad she is where she is, now.
As one in the spectrum I thought that immediately when I saw the interview before. My brain said he is one of us
One of "them"!
One of us ✨
I hate to disagree but I don't think it is as simple as that. Attributing murder and violence with Aspergers is becoming a trend. Anything that can't be easily understood is being explained away as aspergers.
Never been formally diagnosed but I think I am too, feel sorry for the guy really as people made such terrible comments about his smile etc etc and its possible the guy is actually innocent, who knows.
@@AJ-zx8by AND/OR, A Narcissist or Psychopath, NOT to mention the fact that there are distinct differences between Psychopaths and Sociopaths. Yet, according to YT armchair psychiatrists and MDs, the two conditions are interchangeable. Of course, they aren't. We should learn the difference because according to these "Armchair Professionals" 99% OF ALL of us are one of these things.
I planned to only watch 20 minutes before bedtime, but you guys reeled 🐟 me in! Fascinating analysis! Thank you Mark for your input on our tendency to default to negative conclusions when we don't understand what we are seeing. I had that assumption when it first aired, much like the rest of the world, but your collective analysis explains his behavior... and now that I understand, I feel bad for him for having to essentially prove his innocence his entire life. Thank you for your analysis!
Thank you for watching. 🙂
@@TheBehaviorPanel Thank you for doing this video. Initially I thought he was creepy too but came away with a different perspective and truly feel bad for him. It makes me wonder how often the people we label as odd, creepy, weird are on the autism spectrum or have severe anxiety. Also, i've wondered about child-like behaviors. Like Prince Harry displaying 12 year old behaviors. Is it common for children who have experienced death or trauma to be stuck in the behaviors when it happened? And does therapy help them evolve those behaviors to more adult-like behaviors? I get sucked into Hallmark movies as well and The Good Witch!! The sleeves and cup of something warm was hilarious. Thank you for the information and humor!
Yes, I made a very similar comment as my initial reaction was a very "creepy" one... Then, I learned there is far more to a smile... A lot more! 💚🇮🇪
Mark is my favorite
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim I like Chase the best for his insights.
I believe him too. This family has had an enormous amount of scrutiny over the past 25 years and heck, they won't know how to act "normal" anymore!
He's crazier than his mother was. He absolutely hurt his sister, and his mother covered it up. She 100% wrote the ransom note.
Oh right. I think you're crazier than both of them
I think the dad is the most likely culprit
@@karenm8239it's you who sounds crazy
It was him or his older brother. One or the other.
This interview creeped me out. I never paid much attention to Burke before. I always thought the parents were guilty. Thank you for helping me see that you can't always go with your gut reaction. That smile is hard to get around. My immediate reaction to it was Guilty. You guys changed my mind. Thank you for showing me gut reaction isn't enough.
Yes, I made a similar comment to the Panel, as my initial reaction was "why is he smiling at something so horrific?" Now, I realise a smile is so complex, thanks to this analysis 💚🇮🇪
They are very intelligent gents, but it doesn’t mean they never makes mistakes.
Your comments are why autistic people are often misunderstood. I’m glad you’ve changed your opinion.
these guys are clueless. HE was trained before the interview what to say and what to not say and what to avoid and how to do that. It is so obvious. I think these guys are paid by the Ramseys .
A few things. Being a parent I / and my husband would have shook down the house several times looking for her. They apparently did not. 2) Patsy leaves Burke alone in his bedroom. As a mom and 1 child was gone, I would not have let him out of my sight, fearing someone was in the house and might hurt him too.
I totally agree with you.
I agree that they all acted weirdly, but that's their baseline. They were always weird.
Look you dress your toddler up as a slut and them have a free for all open house for anyone and everyone to come and admire your Christmas decor. The next morning she's dead in the basement.
I believe the pedophile came to the very busy house tour, hid and laid in wait This, and especially not engaging their security system when the went for dinner . is all very irresponsible , even in a safe affluent town like Boulder.but not evidence of murder , especially not by a 9 year old in a huge house, asleep in his own room , alone looking forward tonight and I awaking to Christmas morning.,after around 100 people, Strangers had been in that house all day able to do ax they please. Jon Benet was a target for pedophiles through no fault of her own or anyone's. Only predators are at fault. Ad to interrogate a 9 yr old significantly disabled (by the way I can't think of an autistic person to have murdered) but anyway, had the puce not completely botched this investigation things likely would be solved . Alas they seem very consistent in botching same. Look at all Lori Vallow 's victims. The police took zero heed .
@@mrsbutterkup3849 it's very upsetting .. the police have to take more seriously suspicion of potential SLAUGHTER of girls, children And ALL. Police must Make PREVENTION their priority over body searches .
@@mrsbutterkup3849 at the same time I would never want to be her parents. I can't imagine the horror, fear and guilt they just have endured. Pedophiles are MONSTERS.
They found a random not And called the cops immediately. One cop came. She attempted to control the scene but let gazillion of their friends to contaminate it.She directed everyone to remain I the living room. When she finally decided to call for backup, she's a asked John abd one of his friends whom she allowed in to search the house. This was a fairly LARGE house, about 4000 sq ft I think. Everyone was hysterical.
Why did only one cop respond and screw up the crime scene,.
I was 10 when my mom told me that my dad died. I didn’t know how to respond so I reacted how people in movies did. I knew they were dramatic so I was dramatic. I wasn’t upset though, I wasn’t upset about it until months later when it finally hit me and I’m guessing he was in that same shock about his sisters death. I’m glad they didn’t deep dive on the videos of him as a kid, since they were at such a traumatic point of his life.
Why would kidnappers leave a ransom note for the parents just to murder her before they even see it? Why didn’t anyone search the basement long before she was found? This kid is supposedly socially awkward and doesn’t show emotion. Grinning ear to ear is an emotion.
i love "mach" the accent and the way he pronounces his name. a very classy bunch of men
His guilty knowledge may be of his sister being abused. At age 9 he could have seen something that he didn’t understand and he lacked the maturity to process it. Family secrets may be buried with that unfortunate little girl.
Well written - I agree.
I agree as well. I don't think he did it but he knows something. Alot of family secrets in that family.
Agreed. This family harbours dark secrets which they have taken to the grave with them.
That ending 😂😂 mark is amazing as the hallmark Christmas girl sipping pumpkin spice latte.. He looks incredible cheerful holding his mug when Greg and Scott talks hallmark movies 😊😊
They said he was asleep but they heard Burke talk on the 911 call when they thought they hung up
I was so afraid that I was going to have to argue with the four of you. Since this interview with Dr. Phil aired, I've always declared Burke was telling the truth. It's criminal the way people have falsely accused him of murder. So glad you agree with me!!! LOL
Agreed
You're right. He sued Dr. Phil and CBS for this hatchet job and won. I'm sad that the panel admires Dr, Phil so much. He's a flim flam man, a fake psychologist who lost his license to practice, and a bully. Burke Ramsey, especially if he's on the spectrum. has had more than enough abuse. I agree with every word you said.
That was a heartbreaking interview. He looks like a little boy who needs comforting.
Very heartbreaking what the media has done.
His life ended at nine years old. Yes, he is alive but everything in his life from that point on was tragic. A young boy his whole world was changed. I have never thought he did it even when it happened. I suspected the mom but now think a family acquaintence and the parents covered for them. The parents were strange.
Actually, when he was a little boy he was quite jealous of the perceived attention that his sister got from their mother leading him to wipe his 💩 all over his sister's belongings. He really did resent Jon Benet and I would not be surprised if it ever came out that he had something to do with this case.
@@rnladyn906 It doesn’t seem like the family, if this were true, would be discussing such a personal family matter. How would the press be able to verify such a story as accurate?
@@catworld8119 Can you imagine protecting anyone that had murdered your child? I don’t think so.
Notification just popped up! I love receiving an early bird surprise on Wednesday.
Time for a glass of wine. 😏
Cheers!!
It's almost 01:00 here in Ireland and as I was about to put my phone away and get some shuteye, then I noticed this had popped up in my notifications. Well, there goes my sleep out the window 😂.Enjoy the glass of 🍷. 💚🇮🇪
When asked if he did it he said where's the evidence. I think most innocent people would just say no.
@chrislastnam6822 I agree and Dr Phil said as much when talking to Joe Rogan. They were not speaking of this case specifically but he said if the explanation takes more than 5 seconds, it’s very likely they did it. Saying “no” takes one second.
He was parroting what he had heard from other sources.
Scott has theee most soothing voice EVER!!!! 💙
For sure!
He’s mine, you can’t have him..
Just kidding! They’re obviously all mine..but I agree with you about Scott’s soothing voice 🙃
I like the fact that he’s much more handsome than Chase. And that he has a normal sized nose and a great non-Covid haircut.
Scott's voice is phenomenal! Him and Chase are so attractive
This poor young man lost his sister in the most brutal fashion, had to see his parents accused and harassed, then he himself was accused. Thank you for helping to put his smile into context, pointing out his open body language, and to help kill the defamation of this unjustly vilified young man who has suffered far too much.
My son is a nervous smiler. People don’t really get it. He poured boiling water over his chest when little and giggled the whole time they painfully took off his dressing. It s what he does in times of stress 🤷♀️
I was in an elevator that stopped working with a violent jerk, and the lights flashed on and off. My ex boyfriend was piss your pants terrified but my reaction was to start hysterically laughing and say "Of all the places to die, it's here with you." He was pretty mad.
That's insane
All you need is one psychiatrist to believe in something, now its true, they are very fast to label.
Shyness 100%. I thank you for sharing, its sad how they piled up on him. I wonder if he knew Dr.Phil was adding four more to the mix.
Sister was killed, brother is telling the story “ with smile “ ….. what tells you ?
Yes! You guys make my Wednesdays so much better 😁
I've been binge watching this RUclips channel for days 😂🤷🏼♀️ I love these guys and can't get enough.. I actually feel like I'm learning something.. My little ones better watch out now because Mommy is slowly learning the tricks to the trade on truth telling 🤣
I finally got curious enough about what the backwards sound clip at the end of your videos is saying. It is the incredible Peter Falk as Columbo saying "Oh listen, there's one other thing I wanted to ask you about" from an episode of Columbo titled Lovely But Lethal, in case anyone is wondering!
YES!!! THE EPISODE! YOU NAILED IT! WOW! GREAT CATCH AND CALL!!!
krsv2473: Thank you! Thank you! That has been driving me crazy. Ahhh, relief.
@@TheBehaviorPanel That comment feels like it was in the passion plane, or maybe even the ecstatic! Haha ^_^ I'm glad that you seem so happy to have it figured out!
@@500midnightmary you're very welcome! Glad I wasn't the only one! Haha ^_^
I thought he said that at the end of every episode?
Greg Hartley, in the video, he said "very quietly" and not "very silently," in the part referring to someone very quietly carried her down. Much respect to all 4 of you guys!!! Love what you're doing here!!!
Burke always sleeps REAL deeply, and never hears anything when he’s asleep.
Very interesting comment Scott. It would explain a lot if Burke's parents believed he killed his sister and tried to cover for him with the ransom note. Never thought of this case that way.
Right? They might've known he would never make it incarcerated.
Yes I agree, Diana. I thought it was odd that Patsy comes into his room saying “Where’s my baby?” I think this comes across as accusatory. This video was the first I had heard that he had hit his sister with a golf club and had done things with feces. But as a child with obvious problems, he needs protection too.
He *needed protection too.
I think John did it.. maybe he convinced Patsy that Burke did it and they constructed a plan to cover. If the dad threw his socially awkward son under the bus, that is just.. well, he's a psychopath.
I think the father is guilty. Hands down.
@@geezelouise2177 Good points!
I’m so glad you guys did this one! I’ve always felt sorry for Burke and thought people had been incredibly cruel to him over the years.
Me too
People on here are throwing science out he was cleared by police they found DNA which they know was male but it didn't match burk or the father . Also all the parents of autistic kids need to stop as Dr Phil said he was not autistic . He said it was anxiety .
So, you are looking at things through feelings, instead of facts.
@@alimarie67 I mean what are the facts that point he did it ? Because if anything the real answer is that it's unknown about what happened
I act this way when I’m nervous. It’s gotten me into trouble when I am innocent. I’m just extremely shy and awkward. Lol
Same
My brother unintentionally acts guilty around authority. He has been in deep trouble over nothing, just for acting weird and awkward.
I'm completely unemotional when attacked/accused. It comes off as suspicious as well.
Skeleton_w/a_Migraine me too. I get nervous that they think I’m lying or guilty , so I act guilty. Have even started shaking. 😔
That’s okay, Jessbo. You just be you and you’ll do just fine. I promise. 🙂
I have a 34 year old son with Asperger Syndrome, when I first saw this interview years ago I immediately thought Burke had AS. I see so many similarities between Burke and my son in both speech patterns and body language.
I could be wrong but I always thought her parents were protecting the brother I see guilt in him.
To the Behavior Panel; Please do a reading on Woody Allen
For balance you should analyse John Ramsey.....there is an interview 5 days after murder (where Patsy is heavily sedated)....John Ramsey seems to feign saddness and quickly smile to himself. He is a full on "romancer" in every interview he does. He makes me feel very ill at ease.
There are hour-long Larry King videos with John and Patsy Ramsy.
They did do one on her in the exact interview you are referring to.
@@briarrose29 Yes, that was a great analysis of Patsy Ramsey, she comes across as an extremely obnoxious, cold and condescending individual. It's gone 04:00 here now 🙈🙈🙈 goodnight/good morning 💚🇮🇪
@@fuzzyfreckle1341 Same thing in Australia with Lindy Chamberlain, the woman jailed for killing her baby when a dingo (wild dog) did.Lindy was cold, unlikable, immaculately dressed and seriously religious. Judged guilty by the majority before trial, wrongfully imprisoned, released and given an undisclosed amount by the government for her pain and suffering.Btw, is that an Irish flag? Love the Irish.🍀
@@kalayne6713 🇮🇪🍀🇮🇪🍀yes it's our Irish flag and its now 05.15 am time for a few 😴
I love Mark, he has such a great sense of humor 🤣
Burke kept saying, "that's not what happened". Therefore, he knows what happened, in fact, he admits to the child psychologist that he knew what happened.
Unless he took it literally and said, "I know what happened, she was killed." That could explain him saying that, especially if he is on the spectrum
I just started watching your channel.
Question: have you thought of replaying the video you are discussing while you are talking instead of having all your faces on screen? You could have that video going at the bottom of the screen while you're talking and the video plays. It would help us to see what you see.
100%. It would be so much easier to follow.
Agree
I immediately thought he was on the spectrum.
Me too absolutely
me too
I did too, felt sorry for him really. I don't know if he's guilty or not.
Whatever happened in that house that morning was from within...to have two children, one constantly wets the bed and the other spreads extriment around the house and on food...something was definitely going on.both children were under pressure for sure,the little girl in beauty pagents and the boy most likely had to try and show a high academic level,I honestly feel the mother was responsible.
Yep. I've heard the bed-wetting is a sure sign of sexual abuse.
They say Patsy was a lousy mother and housekeeper. At the very least, she imposed her ideas of fame like a stage mother on JonBenet and totally neglected poor - - what's his name?
(I really just totally blanked on his name, LOL.)
I agree this feels heavily of child abuse. There is definitely more to the story.
I personally think a friend of the father or mother might have done it.
Yeah. Kids acting out. It means something was not right
U hit that right on the head!! Great pick up! Im very sure this is true!
@@wilmadeenloomis1801
Burke
There is something so off about this guy. I’m not saying he did it, it might just be mild autism or something like that but smiling like that while talking about your sisters SA and murder creeps me out.
Not mild
He’s definitely autistic and anxious, shy, neurotic, even paranoid!
He’s a victim of his parents.
@@maluribeiro68and a victim of crackpots on social media
One time when i was a teenager working at an ice cream shop my boss was scolding me for something and i was smiling so that i wouldnt cry. Eventually he questioned my smile and i was mortified! Smiles definitely can mean different things
I am Asperger and this man is also. The movements he does with hands are also typical for spectrum disorder. I have no idea how body language can be applied to a neuro-typical person. I wish law enforcement and other authorities had more knowledge about how we act
I am autistic too and I 100% agree with yoy
Since so many austic, scatola , and asperger people seem to claim being extraordinary at understanding this family and burke, maybe you should form a team and solve the crime.
@@shaanee that’s actually something I would be really interested in doing! That seems like a great idea thanks
@@shaanee It bothers you that they can relate and understand because they do walk in those shoes? Your comment says so much about you Shaanee.
That doesn't explain his constant creepy smiling. You only mentioned his hand movements as being normal
But cannot in good conscience admit his smiling is completely creepy and wrong
Regular early Wednesday post - YES!
The fact he's smiling during the interview means he's not really all there. Almost like he's still a kid mentally 🤔 Who ever talked him into the interview should be ashamed.
YES...REMINDS ME OF MS. T SHABUSINESS. So inappropriate, & DISTURBING!
Burke 💩 pooped all over the mansion
I would love to see you guys do an analysis of the OJ Simpson, If I Did It video, that was released several years ago. I think it would be a fantastic insight into the mind of a "killer". He says that he is using a great deal of supposed fantasizing, but I believe he's actually REMEMBERING what happened that night. It would be awesome to see your thoughts.
I second this!! Do OJ!!
Yes please, I have asked for this a few times I think it would be fascinating. I also think he is just recalling the events
I third this!!!
Yes I have been asking for this same one!
I add my vote to this as well! Thank you gentlemen!
Please analyze the Menendez brother's interviews.
I second that, I would love to see what these guys make of them. Very interesting case. I am inclined to believe them. I wonder if they would get the same impression.
yes would love to see that especially the trial testimony when they describe their childhood abuse ... which i believe
@@GirlFriday68 Me too. These boys were psychologically shredded by an abusive father- and an indifferent mother. And Jose’s Polaroid pic of his little boy’ heads cut off with just their torsos and genitalia exposed?
Good grief.
Yes please!
Yes! Were they telling the truth about being abused?
Ever since Burke’s interview with Dr. Phill, I have believed that he killed his sister….because of the smiling. Thank you for explaining situations & how our bodies respond unconsciously that I, as a layperson, have very limited knowledge of. I no longer assume guilt because of a smile.
I have always believed the brother did it
Recomendation: the 2014 interview by Matt Lauer with Dottie Sandusky, (wife of Penn St. football coach Jerry Sandusky) She demonstrates MANY things you guys have taught us. Jerry at that time was already in prison and she insists he is innocent but fails miserabally in answering tough questions. PLEASE?
Yassssss! Thank you
Yes I agree! Would love to see analysis on this too please
Oh girl, I don’t think I ever saw this video .... so I need to! Great recommendation.
Yes, please!
It has to be said that he’s not an uncomfortable 20 year old. He’s like 35. So, he’s definitely an unusual person. I’m sad this incident has been so destructive to his life. *** Correction Burke was 29 at the time of this interview***
The interview was done in 2016, so he was 29 when the Dr Phil interview was done.
I have felt so sad for this family and especially 9 year old Burke for this terrible event that put them in the most unjust and cruel spotlight with uncalled for speculations.
@@donnaflynn8064 True..
@@cynsmi Yes, I DO feel bad for Burke. However, there were some very bad things going on in that family that led to his sister’s death. It’s trapped in his brain. He can barely function..
In my opinion, Patsy Ramsey's obession with Jon Benoit was detrimental to Burke, inflicted emotional distress on him to an extent his reaction was primal - fecal smearing. Scott's conclusion provides rationale and, if true, answers a lot of questions.
Doesn't anyone understand the
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
Burke lives with.
He was 9, it was
Christmas time.
Could you imagine at 9 being accused by
adults being questioned over & over for the rest of your life being asked "did you kill your sister?"
Every Christmas he probably relives that morning.
The public still can't stop asking him.
People need to leave him alone,
let him have a life
Burke did great coming & being willing to be
grilled all over again.
I hope he can find peace in his life.
Most people would take on some guilt for being the child who survived.
Love , Peace
to everyone. 🕊
YESSSSS!
I am in total agreement with you!
I agree.
If his stupid parents had cooperated from the start of the investigation and the inexperienced Boulder PD had actually treated them like normal suspects instead of wealthy elites, Burke might have a normal life today, even if he did kill his sister.
I think it was Patsy who killed JonBenet, not Burke, but what I’m saying is, even if it WAS Burke, they could have managed it- if it was accidental, nothing would even happen; if it was on purpose, he’d have been examined and treated (probably by the best therapists money could buy).
His parents ruined his life in many ways by stage-managing everything and throwing their financial weight around instead of humbly seeking to aid the investigation in any way they could.
@@TentinQuarantino_ Agree. Well said.
There is NO evidence of an intruder. NONE. So given that, and that parents covered up - which one of them did it!?
To clearly have not read the entire online police report there is a police photo of an entry door ajar there is a boot print photo in evidence of a boot that did not match ramseys
@@davidwilliams4498 - zero evidence of an intruder. End of.
Clearly Burke or Patsy
@@davidwilliams4498
Yes, the butler kitchen door was found unlocked and open, a door through which this intruder could have carried out JonBenet.
THERE IS THE SAME UNKNOWN MALE DNA IN THE UNDERWEAR AND UNDER THE FINGERNAILS OF A MURDER/ SEXAL ASSAULT VICTIM!!!!! America can’t be this stupid. There is more of a chance that I’m Jimmy Hoffa, than that DNA not being related to the crime.
saying for the sake of argument he's on the ASD spectrum: When he was a kid the most common form of therapy was ABA. That version of ABA in that era (it has changed some since then and there are different types of ABA) you are trained to smile all the time. Because reading the non verbal cues of others can sometimes be very hard, they used to teach kids to smile no matter what, as if the act of smiling would make people like them regardless of all other interaction. This is only speculation but I really think he went through ABA and that accounts for a lot of his body language.
I agree 100%. And the fidgeting is stimming.
Very Interesting... As someone who wasn't diagnosed with BP till I was 35, it is amazing to learn about autism. I exhibited some of the symptoms, but it was WAY before anyone even used the term Bipolar, let alone Autism. Can Autism be brought on by abuse or is someone born with it?
@@outofthegutterart5636 autism is the way your brain works and you're born with it. BP is a chemical imbalance in the brain that might be influenced by trauma. BPD (borderline personality disorder) is caused in part by trauma. Dissociative disorders like DID/OSDD is caused by trauma (this is not to be confused with non disordered plurality). We have DID so we've done layman's research on it.
@@outofthegutterart5636 Bipolar Disorder is frequently a co-morbid diagnosis with Autism. The only time I’ve heard of Autism having a cause is in “institutional Autism.” Kids who spent several years in Eastern European orphanages, for example, and were not exposed to reciprocal affection, sometimes go on to develop institutional Autism.
@@outofthegutterart5636 It's a combination of genetics and environment, just like everything else.
I saw a documentary on what the police did and didn't do during the work with this case and I can say that they handled the case super poorly, it was a total mess.
Linda Arndt was holding press conferences intimating she knew who the killer was, but she couldn't say. She came across as a bug eyed fool and very unprofessional. She knew squat because. the evidence was not examined. She hinted John Ramsey was the killer because of their interchange when he laid next to his dead little girl and she had the gall to lie on the other side of Jonbenet as if she was a family member.She was a nitwit.
I agree. It was a crime scene whether it was a kidnapping or murder. Why would cops allow their friends into the house and let them send Burke away. They should have all been separated before they could get their stories straight. The cops bungled this and still are. They won’t release DNA samples to labs that know what they are doing.
If you go back to the kid being asked about how he was told she was dead, he mentions his father saying he had found her body in the basement, and then saying that his dad was saying something to himself- which was more information than one would expect from a child with his condition, but it is probably exactly what one should expect from a child with his condition: he knows a lot. He had a lot of confidence saying he did not kill her, and probably learned pretty quickly not to incriminate his parents with anything he says.
I think he accidentally killed her with flashlight.
Nope
He couldn’t have hit that hard
And it wasn’t him
He’s the only person who went to sleep when they said the kids went to sleep
I've always thought it was inhumane of Dr Phil to have done this interview w Burke without any acknowledgement that he may be on the spectrum. He knew how it would look and exploited this guy. I appreciate the panel weighing in (and Scott's theory at the end)
It's amazing how Oprah manages to bring people on-board because she believes they're brilliant in their field of expertise, when they actually possess neither. Neither does she. Hate when the Panel sucks up to anyone famous (except my Scott).
dr Phil is inhumane. Why do people allow him to interview them. There are way better interviewers. I wish Burke hadn’t done this interview.
@@tenderheart7530 I feel the same. I don’t understand why people allow Phil to exploit them. It should be criminal to have anyone under 18 on his show.
@@wilmadeenloomis1801 agree 100%
I agree
As an autistic person, I’m rather saddened by all of the bigoted responses in the comment section-even from people who claim to be parents of autistic children. I’m saddened but not surprised. Because of my autism I’ve personally faced bigotry, stigma, and hatred my whole life. I’ve been called “creepy” and a “freak”. I’ve been ridiculed by teachers in front of my peers. I’ve been bullied and beaten by “normal” people. I’ve struggled to adapt to a world built by and for neurotypical people. The so-called “normal” people. I’ve come to fear “normal” people. And that is a rational fear. Because they have an amazing ability to be duplicitous, something my neurotype prevents me from being successful at.
I’ve also learned that “normal” people seem blind to my strengths, my honesty, my integrity, my ability to hyper-focus on tasks, to solve complex and abstract problems, and to visualize things in my head. They see only my need to stim, my inability to make eye contact, and my sensory processing sensitivity. I’m not trying to make this about myself. But I am actually autistic, so I think my voice is just as valid, maybe even more so, than those who are judging this young man for the way he looks and acts.
In the end, it seems to me that it says more about the quality of the character of those who would judge this young man-those who call him a “creep” or pretend that they can know he murdered his little sister-than it says anything about Burke Ramsey; whether he is autistic or not.
May JonBenet be free from suffering. May the Ramsey’s be free from suffering. May all beings be free from suffering. May we learn to be kinder to one another.
I'm so sorry for the way so many people respond to others who are not neurotypical. My deceased brother-in-law was tormented by his older brother (my narcissistic former spouse), and he suffered greatly from it. Yes, may we all learn to be kinder to one another. And to animals too.
Retired Sp-Ed teacher here- hang in there and know you’re beautiful!! Shameful how spiritual beings (humans) havin a physical experience (our lives on Earth in our bodies) have to repeatedly return bc we all haven’t learned what love is!!
How many years has it been since humans were created? Live. Die. Live. treat others cruelly. Die. Return. Its crazy how dense we are here! I think you’re great! Be you and be happy! You are special and loved! We will figure out eventually! Not in this lifetime thougj!!
....but he's not autistic
Nemo, trust me being "normal" in this current degenerate selfish society is not a good thing.
I am also on the spectrum and I know we are all different. I have also suffered horribly from the judgment of others. I encourage you not to judge allistic people the way you feel judged by them. Just be yourself, and whoever misjudges you, it’s their problem, not yours. Don’t be like the people that hurt you.
You guys are spot on about the smile!! My oldest daughter is Aspergers. When she was small, I had to teach her "normal" reactions so she wouldn't stick out in a negative way to her school mates. One of THE biggest issues I had to get through to her was NOT smiling if she got in trouble, even though she was innocent, because as I told her, "If the teacher is mad at you and you start smiling at her, it comes across as smarty pants! So whatever you have to do, if you can't wipe that smile off of your face while she is dressing you down, put your hand in front of your mouth and HIDE THAT SMILE!!!" It was one of THE most important reactions I had to drill her in. Autistic people do NOT react to stressful situations the same way neurotypical people do! It's quite often, the exact opposite! They aren't trying to hide how they are feeling. They are trying to diffuse YOUR discomfort and make you happy again.
Well said
Thank you!
@@lizj7217 Thank you! If I had a penny for every time people thought they understood my daughter, based on her confusing reactions, I'd be very rich. I've asked her many times why she would show one expression or do something weird that made no sense, and she was never able to explain it to me, often just saying, "I don't know" (sincerely). Intellectually, she knew it made no sense. But emotionally, it felt right to her at the time. It's heartbreaking, when you know your child is pure hearted but other's judge her actions based on neurotypical responses. :'(
who cares
@@lizj7217do you know that Burke isn’t autistic? You aren’t qualified to diagnose people with anything
He comes across as autistic and he had a terrible childhood trauma that any child would be affected by. Then his mother died too. Very sad.
You can’t diagnose people with autism. You aren’t a mental health professional. Learn to stay in your lane
Something is off. Patsy Ramsey stated to 9-1-1 that her son was currently sleeping, but in this interview he states she bursted into his room and woke him up.
Because she was a liar. IDK if you’ve seen their interview of her… yeah… she is not right
After a life of being "Famous Murdered Child's Brother," I imagine he has the habit of smiling to attempt to normalize and disarm the curiosity that meets him everywhere.
I’m sure he was instructed to always have a smile on his face in public in case of reporters and to have ‘no comment’.
He's very socially awkward, his baseline isn't the same as a normal persons.
Good call.
You know something? I think you've made the most intelligent comment so far in this whole thread, and conveyed a clear message that a psyche from that perspective, is going to make it pretty hard to get a proper read on the guy. I've watched this vid more than once and I am far from an expert but I personally find it quite difficult to pin certain things down, like that smile or his eyebrows, but tbh, I do think he's actually innocent, but I'm not entirely sure if he was at least a partial witness and that memory may have been suppressed extremely deeply. I wouldn't be surprised if they've done a few tests on him over the years, including hypnosis and other deep psyche techniques. If he IS guilty, then he's probably the best innocent-acting guilty person I've ever seen anyway. I think! Off the top of my head lol
also I would like to point out that his hand movements - he's touching each finger with the thumb - it's a common self-calming tick that some autistic people do. for some it can be rocking back and forth etc. It's called stimming.
100% correct.
I have a handsome autistic young man in my family. He does the same thing with his fingers
I do the same when nervous
I'm sorry but psychopaths, "act " amazingly! That's why he's trying to "impress" Dr. PHIL. He's VERY intelligent. You remember exactly where you are, what the climate was like, when something tragic happens, even at age 9!
The thing about 9 year olds is they are easy to manipulate, especially if they have a mental disability. If you look at other cases where children murdered, they may try to hold out the lie for a moment but very quickly they break. If he did it, he would have eventually succumbed to the interrogation and admitted it, children don’t keep lies inside for years while adults are trying to pry for the truth. I really don’t think he did it, I think an adult did.
I remember when this first hit the news. I told my room mate "Wanna bet she didn't win the last pageant she was in?" A few days later the news confirmed that & I have firmly believed the mother did it ever since
The first few seconds, that smile.
Oh my..
yes
You guys missed the most important part. When Dr. Phil asks if he thinks he would have heard if anything happened that night…his facial expressions and answer were THE most telling and I’m not an expert. Not sure if he did it, but I DO think he knows something. I did appreciate your take on the majority of this! Thank you! ❤
Sometimes mental development stops at the age of trauma. He still seems 10 to me mentally
He even looks like he could be around 18!
Agree
Sometimes people can look 10 in their mannerisms and still have the cognitive functions of their age. ;)
Fully agree, it stops and he has faces an unimaginable trauma.
That's so sad 😥
My son is on the spectrum and yrs ago a lunch lady reprimanded him at lunch and he smiled...she took it to mean he was laughing about everything. He always smiled when he got in what he perceived was a stressful situation. She harassed him because of it. People don't understand that being on the spectrum shows up very off for 'normal' people. On the way to elementary school parties or sleepovers he and I would practice the correct responses to questions he may face, unless you've experienced it, it is very hard to understand. He is a beautiful person who just doesn't process social cues
I had a child who smiled the same way when stressed.
Sorry he's creepy.
@@mybb8831 agree
I admire your parenting.
Absolutely, I’m on the spectrum and definitely get my reactions and smiles “wrong” as the outside world would see it. Personally, I believe Burke is on the spectrum.
I believe Burke was almost 10 years old. He had anger and rage towards JonBonet. He crushed her skull with the flashlight when she took a piece of his pineapple. Parents staged the rest of the crime to protect Burke.
He loved pineapple & so did the pigs.
No a pedo that the family associated with harmed her. Police have DNA that with technological advances would point to the true killer, but they drag their feet.
@@loralieisa … that DNA the police found was determined to be just degraded smudge. Not belonging to a human. That’s a fact !!!
@@alimarie67 BS_they have DNA that should be tested.
@@loralieisa … why would a pedo take the time inside the house to write a 3 page randsom note in Patsy’s handwriting?
That smile, while discussing the worst day of this family’s life, looks odd. If that’s part of his “condition”, I have no idea why he would agree to this interview or why anyone would advise him to do this interview because it only leads to criticism and suspicion.
I agree...