Are we losing the meaning of veganism?
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Today’s video:
Discussing the dilution of the meaning behind veganism by using the restaurant 'Bad Vegan' as a case study.
0:00 - 'Bad Vegan' restaurant & marketing
1:11 - The dilution of veganism
2:00 - Conflating veganism with a plant-based diet
2:53 - Skillshare
3:45 - The arguments 'Bad Vegan' use for including animal products
5:31 - The 'judgmental vegan' stereotype
6:46 - The wider problem that 'Bad Vegan' symbolises
7:27 - More on 'judgemental vegans'
8:28 - My concerns: what does being vegan actually mean?
12:00 - Closing thoughts
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Over a frigging 5 minute hamburger et cetera !!! You can have vegan hamburgers and vegan chicken and vegan pizza and vegan curry and vegan burritos et cetera without tapeworms !!!!
Which is the hypocrite ??
a fascinating question arises: how did you learn about that restaurant?
@@v.a.n.e. Never eat animals. And they’re huge !! 99% the same as us. But we eat meat, et cetera, and have plaque and tooth decay 🧟♂️🦠🍖🍳.... go to the dentist twice a year !!! No fibre if you eat animals and their secretions. We’ve got flat teeth. Little flat teeth. Moving left and right -_ 😬. We are herbivores. We choose to be meat eaters, and get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure and diabetes... 51% death rate if you eat animals and their secretions !!! Scientific fact.
PH is different. I don’t stink anymore because I’m plant based. Don’t need to go to the dentist because I haven’t got plaque. 6 years vegan, smooth arteries and my shoes and socks and armpits are absolutely clean and fresh. Fibre is plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers. Try it for a month you’ll see. And I’ve gotten bigger and stronger and fitter on a plant based diet. Scientific fact...
serious question, Ed, are you a Watson Vegan or a Cross Vegan?
ED- How does one order your book from north america BUT NOT use amazon? I do not use amazon.
You're simply not vegan if you're not vegan
right. you're simply a bad vegan if you're a bad vegan. that sounds logical.
the problem is rather that people identify with being vegan, even though they are only plant based or vegetarian. there is no such thing as "bad" or "good" vegan, only a wrong use of the word itself.
@@avystopia
stop idealizing veganism. it becomes disgustingly tasteless and takes the form of a cultic ecstasy. you do not eat animals; what is so complicated to grasp and sublime here?
both, being an ethical vegan is key
what’s your problem with not exploiting animals
I have a business idea. Let's open an environmentally friendly restaurant, where customers are offered plastic straws, plastic bags, meat, dairy and fiji water in case they feel the need to be a bad bad environmentalist.
lmaoooo
You said it :(
hahahaha truth!
i'm going to open a vegan restaurant and scam customers by charging them 70$ for a pre packaged salad and with the profits i make i'll buy meat for my self
@@punker4Real yo amazing 🤩 glad im not vegan CAUSE WE HUMANS ARE OMNIVORE AND MEANT TO EAT BOTH
'Bad Vegan' makes my blood boil
I'm looking forward to his next restaurant venture, "Bad Abolitionist", where the food is normally served by someone who has chosen their employment freely, but if I pay a little bit extra, I can get an enslaved server who I can whip if the service displeases me.
Me too mate
Relax.
@@indef2def Comparing eating animals to enslaving people....not a good reputation for vegans.
and then bad vegan restricts your blood and causes heart attacks
"If a man beats his wife, that doesn't make him a bad feminist, that makes him a misogynist. If someone chooses to eat meat, that doesn't make them a bad vegan, that makes them someone who pays for animals to be killed unnecessarily..." Spot on, Ed.
How about vegans who kill animals via crop protection and pesticides? Basically every vegan.
@@Crazycorn2 no
If a man beats his wife it might be because she's a pain in the butt vegan. 🤔
Dude if someone literally quits veganism because it destroyed their health are they a "Bad vegan"?
@@cherished.__ no what? Are you saying that your meals don't result in the death of animals? If so I've got some shocking news for you.
Are you sitting down?
People still confuse plant-based with veganism not differentiating that one is a diet whereas the other a lifestyle, a state-of-mind.
Exactly its annoying
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@Han Boetes I wouldn't even call it "logical", it's inversion, leading to a "d*ad end", because it lacks intuition of the prefrontal cortext, as the lead? Trauma and/or by shame is the cause of this.
ALL CHILDREN and some CHRISTIANS are about to DISAPPEAR!!
The Rapture will likely be disguised as an ALIEN INVASION. DON'T BE DECEIVED!
JESUS revealed that he will RAPTURE / take the children and faithful believers to safety in heaven. Jesus promised he will keep His faithful people from the Hour of Testing / Tribulation because they have kept His Commands (Rev. 3:10). Christians who are truly His will be caught up to meet Him in the air before God sends judgement on this Christ-rejecting world.
“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (1 Thess. 4:16).
Jesus said the Greatest Commandment is this: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind” (Matt. 22:37).
God is Holy and Just, so he has to send judgments and take “vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not OBEY the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (2 Thess. 2:8).
Accept Jesus as your Savior NOW and REPENT for your sins!!
We have been living in what the Bible calls ‘The Last Days’
-- “In the last days difficult times will come. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power” (2 Timothy 3:1-5).
-- In Matt. 24 and Luke 21 it says there will be earthquakes & famines in various places. There will be plagues (covid 19), wars, rumors of wars, an increase in lawlessness because the love of many has grown cold.
--“See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray” (Matt. 24:4-5).
--“There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting from fear and the expectation of the things that are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken” (Luke 21:25-26).
Psalm 90:10 says a generation is 70 to 80 years. Israel became a nation again in 1948 so it is 73 years old. Jesus gave us the Fig Tree Generation Parable prophesying that the generation that witnesses Israel's rebirth is the generation that will not pass away till the events prophesied in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 are fulfilled (This includes the RAPTURE).
Just a Few of the Many Events that will happen in the Last Days:
--Jeremiah 51:42 says that Babylon, which is the USA, will be covered with “tumultuous waves”. The USA will be hit by TSUNAMIS!
--Jeremiah 50:3 says that a nation north of Babylon, the USA, will make the USA desolate.
--There will be meteors that hit earth (Rev. 8:7-11, Matt. 24:29).
--Some Christians have had dreams and visions about the rapture happening when a meteor is about to hit earth. Here’s a compilation video of peoples dreams & visions of this: ruclips.net/video/tqgO14gKNJ4/видео.html
--The Antichrist comes into power who will get a fatal head wound but then be healed. He will force everyone to take the Mark of the Beast (Rev. 14). God warns us to not take the Mark or worship this man. If you refuse the Mark, you will be beheaded (Rev. 20:4).
--For 5 months, locusts will sting those who rejected Jesus (Rev. 9).
SALVATION IS THROUGH JESUS ONLY (Acts 4:12). We are all sinners in need of a Savior. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). “The wages of sin is death/ Hell, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rom. 6:23). Jesus provided the way for us to be freed from the penalty of sin.
Jesus is God: “He is the image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15). “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” (John 1:14). God came into the flesh as Jesus, lived a sinless life, was crucified on the cross and resurrected 3 days later. Jesus/God had to become a human being in order to redeem human beings. He was tempted in many ways like us but never once sinned. He suffered and died for your sins. It’s the greatest love story of all time. Jesus was the only acceptable sacrifice to appease the wrath of God against sin; he imputed his righteousness to us, so that we can be accepted by God (2 Cor. 5:21).
“For it is by grace you have been saved through faith- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast” (Ephesians 2:8).
We are not saved by doing works but by accepting the free gift of salvation through the finished work of Jesus on the cross. When we have his Holy Spirit inside of us, He will produce good works through us to do his Will. “For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10). “For it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose/fruit” (Philippians 2:13).
God is at work in the life of a true born again Christian and we have a responsibility to abide/stay/continue in Christ or wander away and go back to the works of darkness or the lusts of the flesh which will lead to the broad gate - which leads to hell/lake of fire.
“Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Galatians 5:16).
“The works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21). “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22-25).
Repentance Leads To Salvation according to 2 Corinthians 7:10, “For Godly Sorrow produces repentance leading to Salvation” Repentance is a change of mind, which leads to a change of heart, then a change of will, ultimately resulting in a change of lifestyle! Many have said the “sinner's prayer” with their mouths, which is not biblical, but their mind, hearts and wills have never been changed. Repentance is a daily act of turning from the world to God until we leave this earth, not a one time prayer. Jesus said to come as you are but he did not say to remain as you are. He died for us to be cleansed of our sins, not for us to keep living in our sins.
The Lord REQUIRES OBEDIENCE, otherwise we will not receive his Holy Spirit (Acts 5:32). We NEED to turn away from our sins because the Holy Spirit does not and will not dwell in a sin filled, unrepentant person. All those who are saved and have the Holy Spirit, walk in DAILY repentance, in relationship with the Lord, the Holy Spirit convicts of sin and corrects. If anyone can continue in willful sin after receiving Christ and not be grieved and convicted over it, either they never had his Spirit or his Spirit left them. “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God” (Heb. 10:26-31).
Jesus said that not all who say to him “Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. Only those who DO the Will of the father” MANY will say to him on that day “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons and in Your name perform many miracles?” And he will say to them “I never knew you, LEAVE ME, you who practice lawlessness” (Matt. 7:21-23). God said “Sin is lawlessness” (1 John 3:4).
Jesus said “If you love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15).
We are resurrected unto newness of life in Christ, not perfection. Sanctification is the process by which God's Spirit changes the heart, mind and soul of a person to do His will in joyful obedience. We undergo the process of sanctification until the day our bodies are glorified at which point we will never sin again. While still in our fleshly bodies, we will stumble and fall on this journey but we need to keep getting up and running to Jesus, praying for deliverance! It’s only by the power of his Holy Spirit that we could EVER overcome and deny sin!
“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age” (Titus 2:11-12)
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His Word is not in us” (1 John 1:9-10).
“The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him” (1 John 3:24). “Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent” (Rev. 3:19).
I live in Greece and i got these five answers in this year alone(obviously i am translating from greek to English)
- oh no that's not vegan it has gluten in it.
-oh pour thing! You should buy the lactose free product (while i bought a plant milk)
-omg you don't believe in Christianity ?? (Yes for real, because i should do abstention for my soul and Jesus ate fish and so we should)
- you should the vaccine it's good for you! Think of you parents!!
And you think confusing veganism with plant based is bad???
Sorry i just wanted to blow some steam. Its truly an issue with this restaurant...
*From the creators of "Ex-Vegans", here comes "Bad Vegan".*
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Alysson o brabo
Lmao
OMG sou fã
Soooo not vegan... lol there’s no half vegan
So you support violence and murder of innocent animals that wanted to live and have done nothing wrong
Good to call out that nonsense. They're just trying to cash in on the term. If I walked into that place and saw the menu, I would walk right out.
So you don't buy Just Egg or Impossible burgers, right?
Why not call it 'Bad Carnivore'?
i'll tell you why. They are using the term Veganism because it's a trending topic.
Hell yeah baby!!!!
Spot on
@VICTOR'Carnivore' means meat eater, NOT meat and plant eater.. (correct me if i'm wrong.)
@@ivanak7149Thank you Iva :~}
@VICTORSo, are you meaning that a Vegan is more likely to judge another Vegan for opening up a restaurant that serves animal meat, because if you are, you are spot on?
I never thought 'vegan-washing' was an issue, but there you go.
Was that a joke about unwashed hippy vegans? 😉😄
I was held hostage for a year by a washed vegan.
I imagine this would be nothing new to a POC
it feels similar to greenwashing
That place was literally created for those who respond with "I'm going to eat a juicy steak now" in every vegan video, it's so cringe.
A restaurant for trolls! 😒
@@rebelvgan4579 Owned by trolls, too! I want off this planet . . .
It might be one meal being a "bad vegan" but thats one animals entire existence on their plates.
Screw does flexitarian‘s. Trying to steal veganism, why can’t they’re not just call them self what they are
@@themirrorofthetruth2055 bro do you know Hindi is influenced by Sanskrit
This is something I’ve been thinking about this past year… everyone is turning veganism into environmentalism or a diet now. I don’t think anything should be even remotely be called “vegan” unless the moral philosophy stands behind it.
What is the moral philosophy?
@@missbrookes1143 Put simply: Animals are not ours to use or abuse.
@@plutoreturns9630 So we should have nothing to do with them?
@@laurentfaurite9199 Not necessarily, just because we don't (or at least shouldn't) use and abuse fellow humans doesn't mean we shouldn't associate with them. We can still care for animals.
@@alex-do9fh So we should invest time, energy, money for them without having nothing in exchange?
They should change their name to: Morally Flexible or Questionable.
And be called madcows since that is what they have become.
When you can't beat the message, confuse it.
I like this way of wording it, it's happening everywhere.
exactly !! that is a confirmation in itself that shows or says a lot about corruptions of necrophagy.
Not killing CUTE animals like cows and bunnies. But the trillions of insects, rodents and pests you giga-genocide every year with conventional agriculture are not a problem. Cause they are ugly af. Also lets not mention the environmental disaster of transporting produce thousands of miles away with ships that leak their pretty oil in the oceans and trucks who fill the sky with their fumes. Now thats enlightment. Also if you have a car, a laptop, a smartphone, clothes made by chinese kids in an inhuman factory, brand shoes, vacations, and don't eat roots you weed out yourself from your backyard, stop calling yourself an environmentalist please.
@@keylanoslokj1806 You're already on the right channel. Ed addresses every single one of your points in a couple of his videos. ;)
@@keylanoslokj1806 It's almost like those same creatures are killed to feed farm animals
The owners of Bad Vegan are in urgent need of a good old fashioned street interview by Earthling Ed :)
The meat industries are behind this idea.
Fak vegan
ruclips.net/video/3Tza5jJNZ8A/видео.html
Those were the days
Yeah, give them publicity ... what a great idea.
We are now witnessing with veganism exactly the same that happened with feminism. Now everyone is a feminist while they defend the very thing that feminism fights against. With no depth, apolotical and emptied of any true meaning. It is truly.sad but we must keep fighting for the true meaning of these words.
Agreed on both statements!
ALL CHILDREN and some CHRISTIANS are about to DISAPPEAR!!
The Rapture will likely be disguised as an ALIEN INVASION. DON'T BE DECEIVED!
JESUS revealed that he will RAPTURE / take the children and faithful believers to safety in heaven. Jesus promised he will keep His faithful people from the Hour of Testing / Tribulation because they have kept His Commands (Rev. 3:10). Christians who are truly His will be caught up to meet Him in the air before God sends judgement on this Christ-rejecting world.
“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (1 Thess. 4:16).
Jesus said the Greatest Commandment is this: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind” (Matt. 22:37).
God is Holy and Just, so he has to send judgments and take “vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not OBEY the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (2 Thess. 2:8).
Accept Jesus as your Savior NOW and REPENT for your sins!!
We have been living in what the Bible calls ‘The Last Days’
-- “In the last days difficult times will come. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power” (2 Timothy 3:1-5).
-- In Matt. 24 and Luke 21 it says there will be earthquakes & famines in various places. There will be plagues (covid 19), wars, rumors of wars, an increase in lawlessness because the love of many has grown cold.
--“See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray” (Matt. 24:4-5).
--“There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting from fear and the expectation of the things that are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken” (Luke 21:25-26).
Psalm 90:10 says a generation is 70 to 80 years. Israel became a nation again in 1948 so it is 73 years old. Jesus gave us the Fig Tree Generation Parable prophesying that the generation that witnesses Israel's rebirth is the generation that will not pass away till the events prophesied in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 are fulfilled (This includes the RAPTURE).
Just a Few of the Many Events that will happen in the Last Days:
--Jeremiah 51:42 says that Babylon, which is the USA, will be covered with “tumultuous waves”. The USA will be hit by TSUNAMIS!
--Jeremiah 50:3 says that a nation north of Babylon, the USA, will make the USA desolate.
--There will be meteors that hit earth (Rev. 8:7-11, Matt. 24:29).
--Some Christians have had dreams and visions about the rapture happening when a meteor is about to hit earth. Here’s a compilation video of peoples dreams & visions of this: ruclips.net/video/tqgO14gKNJ4/видео.html
--The Antichrist comes into power who will get a fatal head wound but then be healed. He will force everyone to take the Mark of the Beast (Rev. 14). God warns us to not take the Mark or worship this man. If you refuse the Mark, you will be beheaded (Rev. 20:4).
--For 5 months, locusts will sting those who rejected Jesus (Rev. 9).
SALVATION IS THROUGH JESUS ONLY (Acts 4:12). We are all sinners in need of a Savior. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). “The wages of sin is death/ Hell, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rom. 6:23). Jesus provided the way for us to be freed from the penalty of sin.
Jesus is God: “He is the image of the invisible God” (Col. 1:15). “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” (John 1:14). God came into the flesh as Jesus, lived a sinless life, was crucified on the cross and resurrected 3 days later. Jesus/God had to become a human being in order to redeem human beings. He was tempted in many ways like us but never once sinned. He suffered and died for your sins. It’s the greatest love story of all time. Jesus was the only acceptable sacrifice to appease the wrath of God against sin; he imputed his righteousness to us, so that we can be accepted by God (2 Cor. 5:21).
“For it is by grace you have been saved through faith- and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast” (Ephesians 2:8).
We are not saved by doing works but by accepting the free gift of salvation through the finished work of Jesus on the cross. When we have his Holy Spirit inside of us, He will produce good works through us to do his Will. “For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them” (Ephesians 2:10). “For it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose/fruit” (Philippians 2:13).
God is at work in the life of a true born again Christian and we have a responsibility to abide/stay/continue in Christ or wander away and go back to the works of darkness or the lusts of the flesh which will lead to the broad gate - which leads to hell/lake of fire.
“Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Galatians 5:16).
“The works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21). “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit” (Galatians 5:22-25).
Repentance Leads To Salvation according to 2 Corinthians 7:10, “For Godly Sorrow produces repentance leading to Salvation” Repentance is a change of mind, which leads to a change of heart, then a change of will, ultimately resulting in a change of lifestyle! Many have said the “sinner's prayer” with their mouths, which is not biblical, but their mind, hearts and wills have never been changed. Repentance is a daily act of turning from the world to God until we leave this earth, not a one time prayer. Jesus said to come as you are but he did not say to remain as you are. He died for us to be cleansed of our sins, not for us to keep living in our sins.
The Lord REQUIRES OBEDIENCE, otherwise we will not receive his Holy Spirit (Acts 5:32). We NEED to turn away from our sins because the Holy Spirit does not and will not dwell in a sin filled, unrepentant person. All those who are saved and have the Holy Spirit, walk in DAILY repentance, in relationship with the Lord, the Holy Spirit convicts of sin and corrects. If anyone can continue in willful sin after receiving Christ and not be grieved and convicted over it, either they never had his Spirit or his Spirit left them. “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God” (Heb. 10:26-31).
Jesus said that not all who say to him “Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. Only those who DO the Will of the father” MANY will say to him on that day “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons and in Your name perform many miracles?” And he will say to them “I never knew you, LEAVE ME, you who practice lawlessness” (Matt. 7:21-23). God said “Sin is lawlessness” (1 John 3:4).
Jesus said “If you love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15).
We are resurrected unto newness of life in Christ, not perfection. Sanctification is the process by which God's Spirit changes the heart, mind and soul of a person to do His will in joyful obedience. We undergo the process of sanctification until the day our bodies are glorified at which point we will never sin again. While still in our fleshly bodies, we will stumble and fall on this journey but we need to keep getting up and running to Jesus, praying for deliverance! It’s only by the power of his Holy Spirit that we could EVER overcome and deny sin!
“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age” (Titus 2:11-12)
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His Word is not in us” (1 John 1:9-10).
“The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him” (1 John 3:24). “Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent” (Rev. 3:19).
I am not feminist.
@Han Boetes I believe the infighting is a natural reaction to evolving our ideas as they expand inclusiveness. So some who have started at a basic position, who have now seen some of the problematic things that can arise from trying to remain simplistic, where something is complex, have gone deeper, and this creates a spectrum. Then those who have grown/gone deeper try to explain to those who are not really ready yet, or who do not understand that there are complexities, and it doesn't go very well. I think this is the reason why it is so much easier for right leaning movements to gain traction over left leaning movements, left leaners are generally more open to growth and change, which means more people on a spectrum of understanding that often takes the form of infighting, as the learning and growth is achieved, and right leaners are more inclined towards the simplistic, easier to understand view, thus having a smaller spectrum and less differences of view on that small spectrum. It complicates one's life to have to try to change, and many fear that. It also takes more effort and some just have little effort to give and others are just not caring to give any more effort.
Yes let's have a war on farmer's markets. Then by all accounts farmer's markets will win the war and we will have a more peaceful planet.
I went plant based a few years ago and refrained from calling myself vegan because I changed for health reasons rather than ethical reasons. However, I've found that the longer I've gone not thinking of animals as food, the more I started embracing veganism rather than just plant based eating. Bad Vegan should change their name to Bad Plant Based.
I had a very similar experience. Veganism isn't s diet, it's a set of philosophical beliefs that has a dietary component.
Just sounds like you were fooled into thinking that the motivation determines whether you are vegan or not. Veganism was defined a diet.
This is how veganism was defined:
""VEGANISM is the practice of living on fruits, nuts, vegetables, grains and other wholesome non-animal products.
VEGANISM excludes as human food: flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, and animals' milk, butter and cheese.
VEGANISM aims at encouraging the manufacture and use of alternatives to animal products."
This is also how the vast majority of the world see it too.
The Vegan Society’s formal definition is: "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
Note the phrase "Philosophy and way of living."
@@seinmstudio3646 Vegan Societies 14th definition you mean. Unfortunately the world don't change their definitions because the Vegan Society does.
It wasn't even the Vegan Society that first coined the word veganism. It was Donald Watson in 1944 and he left the vegan society 4 years after he founded it.
You can be vegan without an ethical motivation that's just a fact.
@@Crazycorn2 Aaaaaand this is why I shouldn't reply to comments on youtube. I've given you enough attention already. Becky D. you're awesome. Both of you have a good'un.
I’ve been vegan since I was 15 and at 21, my family still questions why I do it. It makes me sad that while I love my family, I’m still seen as an extremist.
Bet you wouldn't be if you was born in a hunter gatherer group 1000s of years ago and to eat whatever to survive lol
@@themotorcycleguy5980 but she's not though... Lol
@Karina Cappucci Indeed, the brother who helped me get sober is dead from eating meat, and the daughter who got me to go vegan is back to eating meat.
I understand how you feel, have you tried asking them if they'd watch videos that put veganism as brutally honest as it is?
Honestly, if they don’t care about your choice, that shows how ignorant they are. I brought a dairy free chocolate to school once and gave it to my friends and they said it was yummy. Only after that did I reveal to them that it was vegan and about half of them called it “gross” and called me “crazy”. I’m not even fully vegan yet.
It shows how ignorant people are and how they are not willing to see your reasons for why, instead they judge because they want to.
I’d encourage you to introduce them to vegan alternatives they could use in their cooking, such as plant milk as opposed to cows milk, or tofu opposed to eggs. It may not fully convince them but it will show them that there are other really good options out there, that’s what I’ve been trying to do, and it is what is helping me transition to a plant based diet. I’m not there yet but I will be soon, I still crave certain meats sometimes, but the slow transition is what made this a lot easier.
This is one of the many reasons I'm studying Public Relations as a vegan. We need businesses advocating for their vegan options while respecting what veganism actually is!
Thank you.
You won't be able to change the definition that billions of people around the world subscribe to.
It was Donald Watson who defined Veganism as a diet in 1944.
"VEGANISM is the practice of living on fruits, nuts, vegetables, grains and other wholesome non-animal products.
VEGANISM excludes as human food: flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, and animals' milk, butter and cheese.
VEGANISM aims at encouraging the manufacture and use of alternatives to animal products."
The Vegan News No 3 (1945).
Yes, isn’t a compassionate lifestyle !
The majority of non vegans, even educated people that I know personally, also seem to think Vegetarianism is the same thing as Veganism. Keep up the great work Ed. 👍❤️
Insert George Carlin stupidity quote here.
I'm a terrible Vegan... you can bet that I won't be going to Bad Vegan though.
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I know it's unfair but a big part of me is like... can we fucking stop using the term "veggie" on shit? Makes me shopping so much harder.
Hey guys there is this new cafe called bad non racist! Were we don't judge people if they wanna be racist and make racist comments! Like we dont wanna push people not to be racist but we allow them to be racist as well!
what a horrendous analogy LOL
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@@joshjoness It's pretty spot on though - What is bad about it? They both minimize issues of discrimination.
Correct plant-based posers….. I mean flexitarian are just death eaters. They are just a regular restaurant that should stop using an ethical movement as dishonest advertisement. 👩🏻⚖️
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Should be illegal for them to use “vegan” in their name if they’re serving meat…
In an ideal society it should be illegal to "serve meat" (unless it's made in a lab)
@@watchdominiondocumentary266 Even the lab made stuff may have a soul. And even then have genetic diseases.
@@karenishness1 Big Deal than we eat the Vegans 😁🤔💪
@@watchdominiondocumentary266 An ideal soceity it should be illegal to become a vegan 😘
@@queenkurumi8504 lol
I would have been seriously annoyed if I gone to that restaurant, I would have expected vegan junk food as you suggested. :(
Yea..I was expecting it to be a strip club or something.
I think we should just start replacing "vegan" with "not killing animals"
are you a not killing animals? no not killing animals I know would agree with you.
@@v.a.n.e. shut up
If people ask i just say my food is grown not born and that I'm in touch with my ethics 😂
theres no way to kill no animals, theres no way to save mice or earthworms when working on a field with heavy tractors etc.
@@chipandchap100 most vegans know about crop deaths but it isn't as many as people claim it is!
But also we aren't intentionally killing animals! We can't control how they farm our plants when they farm animals intentionally for the soul purpose to give them a predetermined execution date! There is veganized farming!
*Veganism is a philosophy of social justice put into practice*
True, but given the craziness in much of social justice movements, I can't bring myself to use that phrase. For me, Cosmic Skeptic describes it best: veganism is the extension and result of moral consistency, morals that most people agree with in principle but less so in practise.
social justice is a term unknown to heinous capitalist bloodsuckers and inapplicable in many western countries where the capitalist clique reigns.
Eww "Social Justice", like "Social Justice Warrior", the most bigoted and intolerant people in the west.
@@v.a.n.e. In wich part of the world does this "capitalist clique" not reign? I'd be interested in hearing the differences to western countries
china, my friend, china. they are the future and the last hope of social justice and equality. @@christopherstein2024
I'm going to open up a no bread restaurant and put bread options on the no-bread menu in order to get people to reduce their intake of bread.
Bad Vegan's animal options make about as much sense as that.
Love that. Gluten free bakery with gluten options.
anti-abuse or no blood diamonds jewelry with blood diamonds options !?
Yes bad gluten free
I’m regularly told “I’m vegan 2 or 3 days a week now”.. really you are only a murderer half the week??? This restaurant is simply trying to cash in and nothing more
I knew someone like this. And one time in a public place they said it, going on about how fantastic they feel and I couldn't stand it any more, and just sort of yelled out "You're fn not a vegan! Vegan is not a fn diet ffn sakes! The whole area went awkwardly quiet for a second, and I just said "well, it isn't. It is about ending nonhuman animal exploitation." (although I have since expanded that to ending all animal human, and non human, exploitation) I just finished my coffee. I wasn't embarrassed but felt awkward because it felt like they thought I should feel embarrassed.
They are only a slaughterer half the week?
I worked with someone like this who told me they were vegan while we were at lunch together and then proceeded to order a veggie burger with eggs and cheese. When I asked her about it, she said she just started so she's not strict about it... um what?
@@Bowcaster67 Becoming vegan for the environment is a reasonable position. Becoming vegan for the animals is religion. That's the part where vegans lose me.
And I say, tell that to the animals that must die for you- not me.
I was at a sports event earlier this year and a food truck had a vegan option but I asked if the chips were cooked separately from the animal products. They were able to tell me that they could use the separate "gluten-free" fryer that they don't cook animal products in, but I was also asked "do you want (dairy) cheese, or are you a full-on vegan?". That shocked me because someone who is a vegan will of course not be eating dairy. Then just last week at another sports event I chose the "vegan sausage bap" for my included free breakfast, but when I went to add ketchup I noticed they had been pre-buttering the rolls! I had to get them to check whether the spread was dairy-free (it wasn't) and I ended up having to ask them to make me a new one with a plain roll, which I hated doing because it's also so wasteful. The look on their faces though showed they clearly had no clue why I didn't think their "vegan" offering was suitable for an actual vegan to eat! I love that there are so many more food options available, but too many people don't understand what being vegan actually means - it's so much more than just dietary choices, but even that's apparently flexible to some!
OMG :-( . Why is it so hard to understand that Butter is made from diary... They could use Alsan or other plant bases margarine... Or just olive oil - tasts better...
YOU ARE A GIFT TO THIS WORLD. Absolutely 100% agree with you as always. Thank you for doing what you do and spreading awareness and clarity on critical matters.
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Always agreeing a 100% with someone isn't healthy stay critical
@@jorritjipdejong4326 his content and the way he articulated it, is facts. You clearly have not seen his videos, have not understood his ethical stand-point and the ultimate moral meaning behind all of this.
@@Creditofcat mmm that broccoli looked delicious. Shame about all the dead animal by-products surrounding it.
@@hotcoffeebreath Nice Steak ✓ broccoli 😑
I find it really difficult to be perfectly assertive yet not aggressive. I tend to be way too passive with my family and friends and way too aggressive online. Really hoping as time goes by I find the golden spot between these two in all my communications about veganism. I have noticed the world wants me to speak as though it's a diet and not bring up the animal's perspective at all, but doing that feels like silencing the true point of veganism.
IMO being relatable is really important and helps reduce dissonance and lower the nirvana standards that come with questioning the status-quo. You will always run into people who argue in bad faith for petty gratification online however, but I think non-vegans and vegans alike pick up on it. Diet and environment is defiently less personal and misinformation promotes little personal sacrifice narratives, but animal ethics questions personal consitency and demands more. Family is tough though, as vegans we seem to be infantalised a lot so it's also worth reading up on how to combat it. tldr I agree.
Have you read ‘How to Create A Vegan World’ by Tobias Leenaert? It’s incredible!
@@MeganOlivier Vegan World sucks no thanks 😎
To me, this establishment appears to be a deliberate attempt to undermine veganism. It doesn’t even begin to be helpful in promoting a no harm
Iifestyle. Your comments are well made and needed saying.
@Han Boetes Hope you survive. Many in Ghandis following were murdered over salt.
"deliberate attempt to undermine veganism"
That's some crazy conspiracy theory right there dude......
Truth is probably that they just want to make a quick buck by using the veganism hype
@@Goriaas What I have written does not suggest a conspiracy theory at all. I am merely suggesting that they have attempted to undermine veganism, with deliberation.
@@markusstarmer2859 And I find that suggestion ludicrous. They wanna make money and they thought this "bad vegan" thing was good publicity to make more money. I doubt they give a shit about the overall success or failure of veganism and want to do anything to deliberately influence the movement
you embody, and I use this as a very strong compliment, what we call in german "Vernunft" (philosophical strength, characterly right-guided rationality, sanity). It is mental healing to listen to you. Thanks a lot
Veganism is about animals, period. Nothing else. Use plantbased for your diet dammit.
animals and period?! eww...
@@v.a.n.e. not that period
Agree!
@@v.a.n.e. do you consume eggs? If so your consuming someone else period! Also comes out of an assvigina!
oh, you mean ... well, that's gross. @@m0nke13
As if there wasn't enough muddying of the water in terms of the Vegan philosophy and animal rights out there in the mainstream media/general public already. Great video Ed, fair play.🌱🧠💚🌎
@Han Boetes It's even worse than what you are describing, dude. Senomyx puts aborted human fetusses in thousands of foods, soft drinks, and candies. And even impossible burger factory is across the road from an abortion clinic due to a video I saw. Furthermore McD's is said to have 10% human flesh in their pork products. The hand above the governments is simply not human and wants us to disobey Genesis 1:29 so they can divide and rule.
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I would speak words of agreement but Ed has already provided those words over years of his content and people should sift through his videos to gain them ❤️
I would never eat non vegan options but just the fact that Ed made me rethink why I am a vegan in a couple of sentences speaks volumes.
Fac vegan
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They've got low star ratings on Google because people take issue with their misleading name. Their responses to those comments are often along the lines of "your review has nothing to do with the food". What they don't understand is that their restaurant name also has nothing to do with ethical veganism (which is really the only kind of vegan). If only they would apply their own standards to themselves. They have no business calling themselves vegan.
Lmao I just looked the restaurant up and it has a 1.5 star reviews. 😝
You are the reason I became vegan, Ed. Thank you.
Can’t wait to read the new book! Thanks for the ongoing content…your videos have helped me explain the message of veganism to friends and family! 😎🙏 Peace & Love from Virginia, USA.
I agree!!! You're either a vegan or not!!! No such thing as a "bad vegan" eating meat... absolutely ridiculous!!! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. All blessings to you.
Seems to me like more underhanded carnist tactics.
c'mon, you may have even laughed at first.
As a carnist, i can confirm that we are infiltrating the vegan "community". Expect at least 2 "vegan" RUclipsrs to quit veganism. It's a demoralization tactic.
Exactly.
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hey Jon WePus. I know, I know... I'm mispronouncing it, but you're the next in alphabetical order. your vegan "journey" has ended. give up.
@@somerandomknucklesinatank1491 Its more about twisting the word and creating ignorance.
Carnist indoctrination is so bad you even mutter the word "Vegan" they all turn into 'lions' and have an aneurysm.
Spot on, Ed. I do hope they get the message 🌱💚🌱
The idea of a restaurant focusing on vegan food, and offering non-vegan "options" is certainly not worse than traditional restaurants. They just need to re-market and re-word their menu so it is not disrespectful or misrepresenting our cause.
What would be funny, is if the non-vegan options were of equally low quality as a typical steakhouse's vegan options. I was served 3 florets of cauliflower not long ago with a small side of quinoa.
Imagine the outcry if there would someday be a "Bad Muslim Butcher" selling pork chops or a "Bad Hindu Chef" selling steaks. I'm sure that would hit global news.
Yes and others think it is "okay" to offer a vegan things with butter. And when I say: "noo butter... remember from a cow, made from milk... not plant based...". They answer: "ooohh I didn't know...". Sometimes I think others are so damn annoyingly stupid. I get the vegans fear now: "is this really vegan?". Or they don't wanna know...
Many Hindus from the south like Kerala for example eat Beef all the time what are you talking about.....
An acquaintance of mine once told me: "I've planned on being 100% vegan for 1 week each month. Because it has health benefits etc." The word "vegan" is progressively more and more misused (or rather abused) for describing a plant-based diet. It's ridiculous to think that you can be "vegan" 1 week each month, like it's something you can just switch on and off whenever you feel like it. Additionally veganism is also being conflated with health, even though it has nothing to do with it.
@Han Boetes Veganism and environmentalism don't even align all the time though, like buying produce shipped from the other side of the world or buying vegan leather than is just cheap plastic. Veganism can be healthy or environmentally friendly but it doesn't have to be, it does have to be about avoiding cruelty to animals though.
@Han Boetes Wrong. Veganism is an exclusively negative utilitarian position. From the very beginning and according to its definition it has been and is solely focused on not causing unnecessary harm to sentient beings. You could be a vegan and eat unhealthy foods only, but that doesn't mean you are not a vegan. How is claiming that veganism is in its core strictly an animal rights focussed ethical position a false dichotomy? A false dichotomy would be, for instance: "Either you are vegan for animal rights reasons only, completely ignoring health, climate etc., or, in case you claim to be vegan for other reasons apart from animal rights, you are not a vegan." But I never said that. So if you don't know what a false dichotomy is please refrain from alleging that I am using one, even though I clearly didn't. I also embrace the health benefits of veganism but that doesn't change the fact that veganism is an exclusively animal rights/sentientism focussed position.
And I also don't know why you use the term "the opposite" to describe what is actually defined to be veganism. So the actual definition of what veganism is is the opposite, in your opinion, to your personal understanding of veganism (which is also focussing on health, climate etc.), just because it doesn't include any other factors besides animal rights? That's not what the word "opposite" means, so you misused it in this context. Just because the definition of veganism doesn't include health doesn't mean that it's the opposite to your understanding of veganism.
Signed book ordered!!! Can't wait to read it man!
I had a co-worker who said that she was a Vegan except for baked desserts. I told her, "Then you're vegetarian. She didn't want to accept that and kept saying she was a Vegan.
I had a classmate who said that she was vegan but still ate organic eggs and wears animal skin….
@@saxenart It is especially helpful when I tell them I don't eat murdered or enslaved animal products.
I think imperfect vegan is still a better term to describe her. It's not like she is buying cartons of eggs, cheese, yoghurt etc.
I think insisting on 100% of moral purity is a bit harsh. She is still doing amazing in terms of limiting her animal food consumption.
@@feelingoffbalance - She liked to bake the goods herself, so she was buying eggs and milk etc. to bake cakes and cupcakes. It's a vegetarian. The definition for vegan is clear and simple.
What your problem is, is expecting corporations to hold any other values than make as much money as possible.
I would go so far as to say Bad Vegan is more disingenuous than KFC in that KFC is up front about what it is while the name, "Bad Vegan" is almost tricking you in to believing it's an ethical company.
Absolutely the hypocrisy and cashing in on the trend while making fun of it
Preordered your book with my Christmas money. Can’t wait to read it!
Veganism is far too often linked with diet, and is the reason why there are so many so called "ex-vegans". People go plant-based and think that makes them vegans but unfortunately this isn't the case. Then when the diet fails or isn't executed properly, they easily give up and blames it on veganism. "Bad Vegan" is likely owned by entrepreneurs who don't care so much about animal rights, but see veganism as a trend. They likely understand the fact that many people like the ideas behind veganism, but aren't willing to compromise on their habits. Now these people can go to this place, feel good about themselves without having to change.
This trend of plant-based mixed with meat is only another "RSPCA approved" or "Red Tractor" labels. They don't exist for the animals. They exist to appease people's conscience so they can continue eating the flesh of innocent beings without having to feel guilty about it.
Because people want to enjoy the moral high ground Veganism confers while not doing their homework, that is, to be truly vegan. The human ego will latch on just about anything as a parasite to remain alive. What "Bad Vegan" is doing; is pandering to people's insecure egos.
That being said, I think the term "Vegan", despite being well-established and convenient, just invites such "hijacking". So much so that the term "Vegan" barely means anything nowadays since so many people appropriate it and distort it at will. It is absolutely necessary to shift the spotlight onto the perpetrators of the injustice and stop brandishing the Vegan label. To that end, vegan activists should make a concerted effort to stop using the term "Vegan" and use a more explicit terminology such as "anti-carnist" or "anti specesist" instead. It seems to me such an approach would be more foolproof.
@@melamsisse2426 Awesome idea.
Thank you for everything you do Ed, you're such an incredible source of inspiration and information, you inspire so many people everyday. Your work is incredible. You make this world a better place.
One of the big reasons my partner became vegan was because I exposed him to delicious vegan food. He went from not thinking a meal was even a meal without meat to us sharing a fully vegan kitchen. Bad Vegan is doing a disservice to the community and to any non-vegans who come to their restaurant to experience delicious vegan food.
Could you suggest those vegan food to me also plus
@@Prithvikalra660 Avant-garde Vegan has a lot of killer recipes for cooking at home and Más Vegan has great recipes for mexican food (this was very important for him). We are very lucky to live in a city with many vegan/vegan friendly restaurants as well. Our favorite go to food would have to curry, its savory and spicey in a way that just hits right and is pretty easy to find vegan. If you have any friend/family with allergies they can probably tell you which restaurants are willing to accommodate as well.
@@Eeyono Thank you so much! Since I became vegan I was missing tasty foods. I will definitely try these. Thanks again :)
Thank you for the needed clarification.💙🌻
I love the way you approach things. Love the channel.
Video suggestion: How does one individual going vegan have an effect on climate change, animal agriculture etc. that are such big problems?
By being an activist
I totally agree with you, Ed. Thank you for the brilliant video.
I also feel that because the name of the restaurant is misleading, vegan and non-vegan customers may perhaps think that all the options are vegan and then order by mistake a non-vegan option (this is if the options aren't well described/signalized).
Hello Ed, love the videos! You've inspired me to start making my own videos spreading the word! Looking forward to more content!
A more accurate name for this restaurant would be "Not Vegan". Let's get real here, calling a restaurant Bad Vegan is akin to somebody saying they are almost pregnant. You either are or you aren't.
(On a side note, this whole weird concept might have originated from an interview with Pamela Anderson where she described herself as a "bad vegan", ie she slips up once in awhile.)
So frustrating indeed. Language is power and we need to protect the value that the word vegan has or should have!!
Also, 100% agree. Encouraging people to eat plant-based is NOT done by giving them animal flesh, but by showing how delicious vegan food can be.
Let's end speciesism, and make sure that veganism is understood correctly.
Lol
If we are going to acknowledge that language is power, than to be even more pedantic as I am known to be, plant based should not be used to indicate plant only. Example of what I mean, As a vegetarian I was plant based but ate eggs and cheese. My diet was based on plants, with some animal's exploitation on the side. When I became a vegan, my diet became plant only.
@@d.rabbitwhite I don't really agree. We can use the terms "more plant-based" or "mostly plant-based" for that. A "plant-based diet" in my opinion should only refer to a FULLY plant-based diet
If we establish the wording "plant-only", that's also fine by me, but right now there is no other way to refer to the fully plant-based diet, you know?
@@iam_aiko Veganism is simply a religious worldview that not everyone agrees with.
@@georgewashingtom6516 when you don't understand the difference between a religion and movement..I know BLM is religion as well.
Since when did flaking on moral obligations that you imposed on yourself become badass??
I'm just going to say..."Yes!".....BEFORE I watch the video..
Great decision. You were correct ✅
Also with animal product anywhere, I also am very concerned about cross-contamination.
They want the trendiness of veganism but they don't actually know how to cook.
Many people think veganism as a diet because of all the social media vegens constantly talking and making statements about health instead of animals. If you constantly see people on youtube, instagram etc. making the argument that veganism is the best because it's healthy and talking about research that shows how healthy it is, than that's how you are going to perceive veganism. As a healthy diet style.
Thank you for clearing this issue 👏🏽👏🏽🌱🌱
It's the signs of a society in its death throes, when language becomes so warped and twisted that meaning is lost to the absurd.
Sadly I suspect you are right. What are the alternatives????? Fast and pray dude, fast and pray.
Total fallacy!
"I'm tolerating that you don't want to cause suffering, so if you're not tolerating that I cause suffering you're intolerant"
- Der Artgenosse
I'd honestly do a disruption of this place and go on a speech of what vegan really means and why are they selling tortured dead bodies
Thats not gonna look good from a public perspective. I can see the headline. "Extreme Vegans protest against vegan restaurant"
And they not even care XD 😆
Such an important thing to point out! Well said!
Much love Ed 🕉️♥️, I'm a new sub and still in the transition phase to veganism myself, and just wanted to say thank you for being a huge help with your vids on the topic!
Great video but not what I was expecting from the title.
Please make a video about the conflagration of veganism with health. It's annoying to see comments on vegan food photos/videos saying "ugh you used oil" or "just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy." There is an assumption that vegans are necessarily concerned with their own health.
While many vegans may tend to be healthier overall, it isn't a requirement of veganism. The movement needs to be more inclusive of all body types; I am sick of seeing so much vegan literature contain pictures of thin people eating salads or surrounded by a pile of vegetables.
We want fat people to become vegan too. Please make a video about this!
You are asking a lot from him. Dr David Jubb of Jubbs Longevity or Dr Alan Goldhamer of True North Fasting clinic may be able to help though.
Great video as always Ed. Always such a pleasure to see how you reflect on these issues.
People truly have a hard time letting go of their ego, and realizing that veganism is fundamentally about animals, not humans.
It would be very interesting to have a chat with the restaurant and ask what the intention and driving force behind the idea is, and why anybody thought this was a good idea?
Commodifying the commodification of animals by conflating veganism with meat-eating... 😥🐮🐷
I am a human animal and began for my health and in defending my health became more sentient to animals. There will be a price to pay along the line. and they won't like it.
@@karenishness1 That's great to hear Karen. I really do hope that we as a human species will see the wrong in our ways and change ourselves without having to go through hell.
I hope and pray 🙏🕉☯
This is so important and needed to be said!
Thank you for all that you do admire you so much x
I suspect the restaurant owners are going along the principle that no publicity is bad publicity.
I think the name of this place and everything is ironic and mocking the movement
exactly what I thought. It is very clever marketing at the expense of animals and those who advocate for them.
Thanks for this Ed!
Ty! I hope they see this.
Veganism has become too conflated with a diet, health and the environment. As an activist, one of my goals is to put veganism back on it's roots. The injustice of animal abuse should have one focus and one focus only, the animals.
I also hate the words "vegan food". Do you say, Babe, can you put vegan apples on the list"? I actually wish the word vegan didn't exist. It gives people the opportunity to do things like what Bad Vegan is doing. What's the word for being against racism? There isn't one, you would simply be a non racist. So, if the word vegan didn't exist, this restaurant would be called Bad Non Animal abuser. Doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
Yaah the foods should be called plant based, not vegan
@@saxenart I don't even like plant based, since that term doesn't mean animal free. When it comes to restaurants and labeling on packages, I don't mind the word vegan. When it comes to talking about individual item's, it's just food.
However, in regards to the injustice as whole, that's where I wish the word didn't exist. It gives people an "out" to make excuses to justify being an animal abuser. "It's hard to be vegan". "I could never be vegan". I love cheese too much to be vegan". Shit like that. Because without the word vegan there, they would have to say, "It's hard to be against animal abuse". "I could never be against animals abuse". "I love cheese too much to be against animal abuse". Less people would talk unethically like that.
@@Entyce914 Veganism has a religious nature. Moral systems cannot exist without religion.
@@georgewashingtom6516 All veganism has to do with is not needlessly killing innocent beings. Has nothing do with religion. Just like you not raping that person next to you right now has nothing to do with religion. Just like you not beating your child until their face is blue has nothing to do with religion. It's simply the right thing to do.
@@Entyce914 There is no Right and Wrong in the atheistic worldview. We are just random meatballs floating through the universe. Darwinian-evolution is the only law for atheists.
I'm a bit torn on whether veganism should be a black and white thing or if it is more practical to simply cut meat gradually. I'm a vegan myself, but I suspect we have created a division in the society where people are either vegans (or their close relatives like vegeterians/mostly-vegeterians), or the other group of people that don't care about what is happening in the meat industry. This would be analogous to having environmental-friendly people that completely abstain from plastic or coal energy and rest of the people don't think about environment at all because the bar is so high.
they could be vegans-in-transition? or 95% plantbased?
@@debcress6718 That's still too high of a bar that puts off people I think. I'd love to see a world where majority of the people are at least bought into the concept of reducing animal suffering. And they move at their own pace towards the ideal.
Thank you for your work 🔥💕
You’re doing great work, Ed. Wish I was more like you.
I will never understand, why people who aren't vegan, want to identify as vegan. Like, if it's just a diet and not a ethical stance for you, why do you need to label yourself?🤦🏽♀️ It's probably for their ego.
Someone would claim the vegan label even if they don't identify with it ethically so they won't be served animal products because they don't eat it. It's as simple as that. If you go by plant based there's a chance you could be served dairy.
It's frustrating that, even within the vegan community, being logically consistent is conflated with being "judgemental" or "extreme" all too often. We wouldn't accept watering down the message in any other social justice movement, because it would be doing the oppressed group a disservice. Vegans should defend the animals unapologetically, because they deserve nothing less. Thanks for tackling this subject 💚
It kinda just seems like being vegan in general is judge mental. I’m not forcing anyone to go vegan, I just told you I am because you asked me if I was.
@@waytogopual the fact that non-vegans even accuse vegans of "forcing their lifestyle onto them" is quite ironic. When we advocate for animal rights, we aren't trying to force our lifestyles onto them, we're merely trying to convince them not to force their lifestyle onto the animals
For some reason, as soon as you described the concept of the place I knew it would be in Camden.
Another great video. Thanks Ed.
It can be tough switching over to a 'vegan' diet.... But this is just daft. You're either vegan or you're not. I love seeing a vegan option in restaurants (as in we're not a vegan establishment but hey we have something for you) but this is playing the cake. Obviously run by non vegans. I had a similar situation where a 'vegan' burger joint had 95 percent vegan options and a...... Chicken burger.... Ummmmm yeah! I hope they remove the meat, play it off and say their 'bad vegan' name is more unhealthy junk food than actually offering meat. Seems so obvious to me! As I said in the past you're the terminator Ed!
thanks Ed & Team again for getting new perspectives about our beloved topic veganism with every video. Bad Vegan is like a bad concept ;-)
@Stu already did ;) hahah < 3
@Stu Lol capitalism not even care XD😆
This truly angers me because it gives non vegans the impression that they can be “vegan” without actually being vegan..
Based on the Vegans Societies Definition of Veganism and the use of the word "practicable" one can still eat meat and call themselves a vegan.
Amazing video 🌱
🙌🏾 yes yes yes T H I S
Keep this front and center 🎯 Guys
...and well done Ed for doing just that)))
#keepAnimalsOFF the PLATE 🔪🥼🐾🐔🦈🚫
Are you going to release an audio book?….I like listening to you while commuting
Great video, man !
You can’t call yourself vegan and eat animal products. It couldn’t be simpler than that, I don’t understand how some people get confused by different lifestyles and/or diets… Like these people who call themselves vegan but own a leather bag for example 🤦♂️ You’re not vegan you’re just on a plant based diet so stop attempting to be virtuous when you’re just on a diet
It's gross, they treat Veganism like they would Weight Watchers or some other diet where you can have a cheat day 😡
Vegan's eat a plant based diet and yes we have cheat days only its with plant based treats #CrueltyFree
@@melo-cotton7096 I don’t judge people who have leather / animal products before they went vegan… It’s down to how you feel, if you want to use it until it’s worn out then bin it… Give it to somebody you know or selling it, though I see where you’re coming from feeling like it’s promoting the industry - even though it’s second hand… In all honesty it’s your call and you do what you feel is right 😊
@@Incredible43 exactly… I hate the fact that this restaurant have the cheek to claim that basically it’s not to discriminate non vegans… Huh the amount of shops, pubs and restaurants that don’t serve vegan alternatives is staggering… Thankfully things are getting better and better each year for plant based alternatives
@@melo-cotton7096 no worries 😆
@@BrokenEyedVegan Agree, there are so many places that aren't Vegan/Plant Based there isn't a reason for Bad Vegan it's heartless greed 😡
So I guess their sister restaurant must be restaurant called 'Good Cannibal' ???
ty Ed
I literally got a burger king ad in the middle of this video…
Yes, they seek us out.