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  • Corsair sent me their new Hydro-X Link products to look at, but its missing one very important key feature...
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  • @OntarioGuy430
    @OntarioGuy430 10 месяцев назад +596

    That GPU cooler looks like something that should have been crossed out on the white board during product development.

    • @MrSatnavatron
      @MrSatnavatron 10 месяцев назад +35

      imagine the stuff that was

    • @sopcannon
      @sopcannon 10 месяцев назад +78

      looks like an ali express product

    • @fr0stief0n
      @fr0stief0n 10 месяцев назад +20

      plus that block is way thicker than waterblocks, no backplate either

    • @sirmonkey1985
      @sirmonkey1985 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@sopcannon glad i wasn't the only one thinking the same thing.

    • @constantinesoldatos
      @constantinesoldatos 10 месяцев назад

      I agree, personally I was never a fan of corsair stuff specially their fans. Too expensive and cheap quality. I get top of the line Noctua products for the same price. I only use corsair ram which until ddr4 is great (haven't tried their ddr5 yet). Although my T-force kit can get an extra 200 mhz when overclocked. Der Bauer made a nice video comparing water blocks and Corsair / EK while being the most expensive had by far the worst performance. It's actually very educational, if anyone reading this is on the market for blocks go and watch it, it's one of the more recent ones he made.

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ 10 месяцев назад +15

    Woodworkers use a system called "biscuits" to join two pieces of wood together. They look kind of like guitar picks, made of wood and you place a specially shaped hole in the two pieces of wood, glue the "biscuit" and join the two pieces with the biscuit. This sounds like where the name comes from.

  • @MidnightBanshi
    @MidnightBanshi 10 месяцев назад +34

    I love the idea of the Link cables, but OMG that price is just nuts. Corsair priced themselves out of the usual user and placed this in the enthusiast arena.

    • @Timbobjr
      @Timbobjr 9 месяцев назад +5

      $160 for a pack of 3 fans, yikes

    • @goliver9991
      @goliver9991 7 месяцев назад +1

      i mean nvidia is selling 2k graphics cards, gamers are cash cows and everyone knows it

    • @noelgonzalez3122
      @noelgonzalez3122 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tbh I think that’s their target market

  • @tracygolfer
    @tracygolfer 10 месяцев назад +61

    Another problem is when you put these new QX fans on a radiator. The QX cable connects by pushing strait into (180 degrees) the fans using out of the box cables. That takes up space on both sides of the rad. So if you use smaller cases (Lian Li mini in my case) and put in a 360 rad, it will NOT fit. Those QX cables take up a couple of inches and will hit the case wall not allowing the rad to fit. You may be able to get around this by ordering those QX cables (black) with the 90 degrees connects. Another problem was on a RAD where the water fittings come out. You may not be able to connect the cables to the QX fans. It is real real tight. So chaining the fans may not work. Also, buy the 4 way splitter extension with an extra short QX cable and a couple of those QX cable with the 90 degree connects. You will probably need it.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 10 месяцев назад +2

      I seen they had a hard 90degree fitting that is low Profile.

    • @Enzo187
      @Enzo187 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 his point being its not included in the box and costs another $20 extra.

    • @Enzo187
      @Enzo187 10 месяцев назад

      ya its a real problem but I feel itll end up more of an early adopter problem. the out of the box cable is wayyyyy too big. i have it crammed in the corner of my case going from the rear exhaust to the top, and i almost guarantee itll fail over time because of the kink in it

    • @JustMyFish
      @JustMyFish 4 месяца назад

      I got a 3 pack of corsair fans that came with the magnetic hub to go in my corsair airflow case. 1: Magnetic hub is pointless in that full aluminium case 2: two of my fans stopped working after 3 months IMO they put all the money into IQ link and then chucked in a load of cheap parts at a max price. I am now running B-quiet fans that cost a bit less and have much better performance the hub is also magnetic, but they do give you a sticky back steel backplate for that reason.

  • @NightWolfx03
    @NightWolfx03 10 месяцев назад +125

    Technically with the usb port, using on on row does leave you space to use the other row which would be the other port, so might be a cost save, but might also be a convenience since it leaves a port open for another single row header / device.

    • @HighCastle0824
      @HighCastle0824 10 месяцев назад +7

      get outta here with your facts and logic! 🤣

    • @mj1s735
      @mj1s735 10 месяцев назад +13

      I was pretty much going to day the same thing. I have had times were only having one row instead of 2 rows saved me from having to use an internal USB hub. In the situations where I could plug 2 devices into the same port since each one only used one USB connection row.

    • @conno7356
      @conno7356 10 месяцев назад +7

      I had a similar situation where a motherboard my friend has had one internal 2.0 Header that was occupied by his case usb port but it only had one 2.0 and two 3.0 so when he asked me to install wifi and Bluetooth I needed another internal usb 2.0 header. One quick google search later I had de-pinned the header on the Bluetooth card and fit it into the other electrical usb that was going un-unused. It’s just better for consumers imo every device that relies on one port should leave the other one empty!

    • @Dexx1s
      @Dexx1s 10 месяцев назад +4

      Or they could have it take up the entire connector and have a daisy chain the way the other Commanders do.

    • @fermitupoupon1754
      @fermitupoupon1754 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Dexx1s but then I'd have to cram a Commander unit somewhere in my ITX case. being able to just plug my Farbwerk and Octo into a single USB2 header bypasses the need for yet another thing that needs to fit somewhere in the case.

  • @hunterpurdon9118
    @hunterpurdon9118 10 месяцев назад +26

    biscuit connector is actually pulling from the wood working world, there is what's called a biscuit joint where you slot the wood on each sider and add a biscuit that will go into each slot and be held in with glue. so the wood people were the first hungry ones.

    • @someoneelse5005
      @someoneelse5005 10 месяцев назад +2

      yeah, my reaction to hearing "biscuit" was like "yeah it makes sense it is like a biscuit joint in woodworking because there's a thing that's pushed in on both ends" and then Jay went on about how they must have been hungry and THAT caught me offguard, I thought everyone knew this.

  • @cyberwaste
    @cyberwaste 10 месяцев назад +74

    It's a good step in the right direction. You can clearly see they're trying to bring custom loops to the market of people who are on the edge of taking that plunge. It's incredibly expensive. Speaking as someone who has 10 corsair fans in their system, the amount of wires routed in my case is insane. It's a mess at the best of times and I single-handedly kept a zip tie seller in business for another year. The more makers move towards these types of solutions and the more competition there is in the space, the better.

    • @E-0trainless
      @E-0trainless 10 месяцев назад +1

      and less zip tie sellers

    • @ArthurField
      @ArthurField 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel you with then fans, I can’t imagine adding one more, the 9 I’m running were already a pain to route 😅 glad I have the Lian Li XL 😂

    • @marcusoliger3639
      @marcusoliger3639 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm running 12 in mine and it was a pain routing all of the cables. But I built mine and 2 months later they announced the link system. And I can't bring myself to spend another 2-400 to change over

    • @manfredgooden5110
      @manfredgooden5110 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel you, when the 1000D released, I built one with a custom loop and 16 LL fans. It was such a pain between the corsair commanders, cable extensions, nodes and hubs.

    • @tzxazrael
      @tzxazrael 10 месяцев назад

      @@manfredgooden5110 right? omg, when you're at the point when you need MULTIPLE commanders for all your fans... even in the 1000D with it's special "closet" in the back to hide all your wires, it was to the point i was having trouble closing it... so it's definitely moving in the right direction... but we need them to take an actual STEP, not just shuffle a bit closer.

  • @GKuriboh
    @GKuriboh 10 месяцев назад +7

    I would like to see a build with the current release of Hydro-X. And if Corsair does make a newer revision to this setup, a build for that. The idea seems like it is a great one, but it also seems like not a whole lot of time was spent on building mock ups to eliminate wire clutter.

  • @CannedMarmalade
    @CannedMarmalade 10 месяцев назад +130

    I remember everyone including Jay was sponsored for the new Link connectors but regular buyers dropped interest when they were finally revealed and ended up being extremely overpriced and proprietary

    • @litguru4748
      @litguru4748 10 месяцев назад +40

      $50 for a single fan that has some gimmicky useless temp sensor that noone in their right mind would give two sh*ts about, probably performs average, looks worse than cheaper alternatives and doesn't offer something useful that other cheaper fans don't already have. Wow, I can daisychain fans! Just like I could with Thermaltake, Phanteks and Lianli to say the least, most of which are outright better looking fans than these. They've lost their mind, but then again, they're also listed on the stock exchange and need that moneyyyyyyy.

    • @Elvewizzy.
      @Elvewizzy. 10 месяцев назад

      @@litguru4748 I literally bought 10x 10k Ohm temp sensors for my PC a few days ago. Cost me a bit shy of $2. AND I get to place them where ever the F I want.

    • @drluxxx
      @drluxxx 10 месяцев назад +16

      Plus icue software is horrendous m

    • @TheDethsight
      @TheDethsight 10 месяцев назад +10

      i know Jay has bills to pay and people to pay as well, but maybe go a bit lighter on the ads for a corsair product next time. I haven't bought any corsair products in ~a year. got tired of the rats nest and the price per fan being just...stupid. idc how "proprietary" it is.

    • @TheDethsight
      @TheDethsight 10 месяцев назад

      gotta keep lining those pockets of the ancients who (most likely) are their shareholders lol. bet none of them even know a thing about corsair to begin with.@@litguru4748

  • @pctechadvisor
    @pctechadvisor 10 месяцев назад +5

    I always thought they called them biscuit connectors because they resemble a common woodworking joinery style... called biscuits where they attach in a very similar way.

  • @mromutt
    @mromutt 10 месяцев назад +39

    The usb connector isnt a "cheap" move, its actually a good thought out move. Its so you can use the other half of the usb, it should be the standard for it to be that way if something is not using all the pins. I hate needing to repin a double for two devices.

    • @CapnKitten
      @CapnKitten 10 месяцев назад +11

      He also mentions that it could be confusing for a new builder. A new builder is very unlikely to build a custom loop.

    • @brucepreston3927
      @brucepreston3927 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@CapnKittenI think he was referring to new custom loop builders, not new PC builders in general...I could be wrong though

  • @OccipitalVision
    @OccipitalVision 10 месяцев назад +2

    I remember the original video when they first announced the central hub. I'm not surprised by the dead ends: the power draw on the AIO in the first video didn't allow enough power to the other fan(s). It's a good step and they are moving in the right direction. I'm just not sure I'd be purchasing their content right now for my next build partly because this may be my last one and I'm looking to go out on top if possible.

  • @CrystalDragonLD6
    @CrystalDragonLD6 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the Hydro X review! As an early adapter of the link hub with the RGB Fans and AIO, I was planning to build my 1st water cool system with the Hydro X ecosystem! But as I watch your video, I'm kind of shocked how poorly though out those are! In turn, I'm going to wait for Rev 2.0

  • @LindustriesOutdoors
    @LindustriesOutdoors 10 месяцев назад +40

    My only complaint with the link stuff I have is that all of it should come with more cables, not including cables with the single fan packs and only including 1 or 2 cables with the multi packs and some hydro x stuff is outrageous especially with how the cables are priced! Other than that I’ve loved it, looks great and performs great, I have 4 qx120 fans, xc7 (non lcd, so it is link) link block, and xd5 link pump

    • @Bluelagoonstudios
      @Bluelagoonstudios 10 месяцев назад

      Are the fans still so loud? I have here fans from Corsair, these were upgrades from the 360 AIO I bought some 5 years ago.

    • @guillaumejoop6437
      @guillaumejoop6437 10 месяцев назад +7

      this is on purpose obviously, Corsair is leaning more and more on the Apple side of business

    • @carlosmendes6028
      @carlosmendes6028 10 месяцев назад

      I agree @@guillaumejoop6437 . This absolutely by design. These products are made to get every dollar possible out of the consumer, but not in a "positive way" just in a covertly scummy way.
      Plastic stuuf at 200$ a pop.

    • @LindustriesOutdoors
      @LindustriesOutdoors 10 месяцев назад

      They seem to be pretty quiet, not as much as something like a noctua or higher end fan, but I run mine up to 1700rpm on radiators and they are just a low hum, and provide plenty of cooling for what I need, and look great. @@Bluelagoonstudios

    • @LindustriesOutdoors
      @LindustriesOutdoors 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah it's brutal, I didn't even realize I needed extra cables until I got everything, had to wait another few days because I needed a splitter and 2 more cables, 50$ fan that doesn't come with a cable what am I supposed to do with that lol@@guillaumejoop6437

  • @GoblinxChild
    @GoblinxChild 10 месяцев назад +5

    I bit the bullet and got the fans, XC7, and XD5 a few weeks ago. Its my first custom loop, so I wanted things to as smooth as possible. Love the easy cable management, but it definitely came at a cost. So far no complaints. My Alphacool GPU block is what’s giving me the most trouble.

    • @kamelionify
      @kamelionify 10 месяцев назад +1

      Strange, it was my xc7 was giving me the most trouble - it restricts the flow to a trickle. I swapped it out for an alphacool core 1 cpu block and it was night and day. The corsair stuff is insubstantial and won't last.

  • @douglasreid699
    @douglasreid699 10 месяцев назад +1

    here in Scotland having worked as a kitchen fitter, we would use jointing biscuits to join the worktops and give them strength as usually it was a corner joint. so biscuit connection is quite an accurate codename.

  • @bendavis5449
    @bendavis5449 10 месяцев назад +5

    I think it'll look pretty goofy having those big cables running through the system, but that depends on how well they can be hidden. It's basically a full blown USB cable running across my motherboard. I'll hold my judgement until I see a build using all LINK components though. I love the technology and overall design (except the GPU block) and look forward to seeing this technology evolve.

  • @unclebilldrouin8887
    @unclebilldrouin8887 10 месяцев назад +1

    About the 'biscuit connections'. It is visually very similar to the 'biscuit joints' in contemporary wood working. So I strongly suspect that is where the naming comes from rather than food.

  • @MoonlytSonata023
    @MoonlytSonata023 10 месяцев назад +3

    1:47 I think the term "biscuit" was derived from woodworking. The biscuit is a piece of wood chip used in "joining" 2 pieces of wood.

  • @paulgorden7622
    @paulgorden7622 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cooler Master came close to having a nice non-proprietary argb system with their Gen2 devices as they use the standard 3-pin 5v connector, but they don't have the nice quick connect feature for linking fans together without the cable mess.
    But even so, it's still proprietary because only linked CM gen2 argb devices work together with the special gen2 controller.

  • @michaeljarcher
    @michaeljarcher 10 месяцев назад +7

    The USB connector is a good idea, not being cheap, but to allow when you have only one side of a USB header used on motherboard, and you don't want to waste two effective USB slots with one device. I setup just last week my new AIO and the Controller both had the two deep keyed USB headers, however I spliced the two into one to preserve one header spare on the MB. I wish actually I knew of this model as I would of used it, the time to cable tidy I spent was mostly for stupid fans.

  • @BrianRoediger
    @BrianRoediger 10 месяцев назад +2

    I actually like that it's not a keyed USB internal connection because sometimes I don't have enough full "keyed" USB headers and a lot of motherboards have just the single non-keyed header for that exact reason 🙂.

  • @SighManP
    @SighManP 10 месяцев назад +2

    I suspect they’ve called it a “Biscuit connector” due to the methodology in cabinet making (carpentry) of strengthening joins with a “biscuit”

  • @cdmarshall7448
    @cdmarshall7448 10 месяцев назад

    Jay has always been my favorite tech guy for learning practical applications. Steve has always been my fav for seeing how practicable those applications really are pushed to the absolute thermal limits.

  • @solarsolistical6358
    @solarsolistical6358 10 месяцев назад +2

    I agree, I am very disappointed that there is no pass through the corsair link devices. When they showed off the fans being daisy chained with magnets I was fully expecting the devices to have a daisy chain. So you could go to reservoir to rad fans or something.

  • @man987654321111
    @man987654321111 10 месяцев назад

    Definitely agree with what you said about the lack of pass through connections and also the inlet/outlet ports for coolant, seeming to be cheap.

  • @renzo908
    @renzo908 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video Jay, Another thing that should be suggested to Corsair is to make a cable connector with 2 90degree connectors in both ends. In my case I found it would be easier for me to connect in one of my rads if both ends were 90 degree connectors.

  • @Daniels656993
    @Daniels656993 2 месяца назад +1

    I built my new rig with these fans. 11 total. 3 on the top radiator, 3 on the side, 3 on the bottom, and 2 exhausting out the back in a Lian Li Dynamic EVO XL. Looks great and was a snap to install. No issues whatsoever once I read the instalation intructions, which I didnt do at first LOL

  • @mathieubouchard5117
    @mathieubouchard5117 10 месяцев назад

    Ive had Boards with Single row headers that I could use with these type of usb connector. It freed up the Standard Headers for other peripherals. If you RGB a lot those Headers tend to get filled up pretty quick.

  • @NemoConsequentae
    @NemoConsequentae 10 месяцев назад

    Biscuit connector probably comes from the woodworking joinery method. Dowels have been used for centuries, & lately they have been using biscuit joints.

  • @zeemon9623
    @zeemon9623 10 месяцев назад +1

    I do understand it's a little more tricky to properly plug in the USB to the header this way but it leaves the other half free for you to do other things with. You'd otherwise lose a perfectly good USB port.

  • @richardblom9211
    @richardblom9211 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was excited for this to come out to simplify my current corsair soft tube setup. Now i dont think i will

  • @DarthChewie
    @DarthChewie 10 месяцев назад +53

    I wish I could say I was surprised by how awful that GPU block is, but let's face it: it's Corsair. They sell low-end & mid-range products at high-end prices to consumers who don't know better. That's their entire business model.

    • @TheScyy
      @TheScyy 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yup, I do have a few Corsair products in my loop but that’s because I got a xd5 for $60 used and xc7 for $35 used so it was totally worth it for the price. I would not pay what they’re looking for new.

    • @brucepreston3927
      @brucepreston3927 10 месяцев назад +4

      Their fans and their cases are pretty decent, but other than that I don't think I would buy anything from them...

    • @lukaszgapinski6452
      @lukaszgapinski6452 10 месяцев назад

      So what brands do you recommend?

    • @ChrisWijtmans
      @ChrisWijtmans 10 месяцев назад +2

      yep corsair and cooler master is what i avoid. i dont like these proprietary set ups. Just daisy chain PWM and ARGB on the mobo connector and be done with it.

  • @Tamsuii
    @Tamsuii 10 месяцев назад +1

    “Someone was clearly HUNGRY, CLEARLY” 😂😂

  • @psyranikofficial
    @psyranikofficial 10 месяцев назад +6

    After buying the iCue Link system, they need to include 90 degree cables in it FULL STOP. I had to fight so hard to get the iH170, the three 140's in the front and the one 140 in the back to connect due to the cable coming straight out and the Lan Cool III being very tight in space given what I was cramming in it. (like my motherboard has pressure on it because I was short a few mm to make the iH170 and the other seven fans fit correctly). In all honesty, after my experience, I am going to want nothing but 90 degree cables except for the ends coming off the hub. Even my three 120s on the bottom need the 90 degree cable because the original cable wouldn't allow the 360mm fan plate to sit at it's left most position. (I know I know, 1st world problems!)
    Another thing to note is I can't stand that I'm not allowed to rename the order of my fans in iCue. I can move them around in the mural setting to the correct order but that was a pain and when I finally was done doing that, iCue updated to a new way to identify where each fan is in your system but the colors are so close together that it was very hard to tell and almost useless. Still useful but not as much as it could be!

  • @barrycompton8972
    @barrycompton8972 10 месяцев назад

    This World of Warships advertisement still makes me smile; Phil pokes his head around. “yeah”.

  • @NomNomBasti
    @NomNomBasti 10 месяцев назад +7

    The GPU block looks horrendous. I do like the display on the CPU block, though. It's one of those features AIOs had over custom WC. However, I wish they would've increased the height of the CPU block or something, so that the cable header disappears within it and only the cable itself would be visible. I don't know, I hate it that every company has their own software suit, and all of them are incompatible to one another.
    Would be nice to see Jay's opinion on the recent Alphacool blocks and their upcoming Apex Metal Fans.

  • @BrianRoediger
    @BrianRoediger 10 месяцев назад

    That World of Warships ad with Jay as a Naval Officer gets me every time. Bet he LOVES that ❤😊

  • @Purpledrank39
    @Purpledrank39 10 месяцев назад

    I actually went and bought the starter fan kit and 3 separate fans for my upcoming water cooling build. It sucks the PCIE cable to power is only 7 3/4 inch long. Corsair said they would not entertain making a longer PCIE cable either. I guess Corsair think builders are going to place the link at the very bottom close to the PSU? Builders are going to place higher up in the case. Another grip is the cables to connect to the link isn't long enough.

  • @MrCosmoe333
    @MrCosmoe333 10 месяцев назад

    Planning on building a new system and i was literally doing hours of research on the new hydro x stuff and i literally agree with EVERYTHING jay said im glad he agrees 😂

  • @OldBuford
    @OldBuford 10 месяцев назад

    So happy i went and built a stealth SFF build that is mounted under the desk so i dont have to mess with RGB and cable management nightmares anymore 😊

  • @krisespino
    @krisespino 10 месяцев назад

    I think missed the point those are endpoint connections so the water block would sit in front or near a rad with fans so the block would connect to that fan the chained to rest fan, same goes the water reservoir, it’s a stop/end of connection. If you have the I’ll fans connected at from of the case then your reservoir

  • @asphaltbinder
    @asphaltbinder 10 месяцев назад

    The water pump / reservoir combo reminds me of a blender for some reason. I agree with Jay's comments on the GPU water block as well.

  • @jamesroberts3817
    @jamesroberts3817 10 месяцев назад

    Biscuit connector naming has been taken from wood joinery. A biscuit is a flat dowl used in woodwork.

  • @UrvineSpiegel
    @UrvineSpiegel 10 месяцев назад

    0:52 I really love that transition

  • @RoninMrtyr
    @RoninMrtyr 10 месяцев назад

    I will never NOT see that face on the pump now! LOL! this was a really cool video and I'm excited to see them improve this design. I might use it in a few customer builds too!

  • @ShimejiiGaming
    @ShimejiiGaming 10 месяцев назад +36

    Not surprising that they managed to mess it up. The problem with all these different connectors just makes it all the more reason why i stick with fans that have 0 RGB. Any system i build i do not use RGB for this very reason. Even some of the best thought out implementations still have their own issues.

    • @j.a.velarde5901
      @j.a.velarde5901 10 месяцев назад +1

      @ShimejiiGaming Could it be that Corsair doesn't want to force consumers to purchase the new wiring "link" system? And that could be why they didn't make everything compatible? Something is telling me it could be this way because they don't want to force feed a new system to gamers and then get blowback... but that's the excuse I'd come up with (For the cooling system not having the new connectors). Is my reasoning sound?

    • @craig9365
      @craig9365 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​​​@@j.a.velarde5901compatible with what and how? Their old stuff? Other Brand's stuff? Like what jay said and have pass true for all the devices? I don't understand what your upset about tbh. And let's not even get started on the horrendous software side of controlling this crap. Also would you rather them use Lian li's connector? They could do it illegally and get sued or beg for rights and then theirs will be really expensive (even more so) to cover that cost. So I'm not quite understanding what the issue is. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Like RGB and want less wires? Buy it. It's really that simple. I don't see many alternatives as coherent and spread across so many different parts. Personally I'm with OP no RGB. My PC is red and black. Fans just have red LEDs. Very simple. Just can't change colors but whatever.

    • @ahmedhamdan2009
      @ahmedhamdan2009 10 месяцев назад +1

      The corsair icue link system is not cheap but people will pay more to eliminate cable clutter/difficult cable management and I can respect that.
      If I am right now building a new pc with rgb, I'll definitely go for the icue link ecosystem. Not only I'll end up paying a premium but my time is also worth something and saving hours on cable management is a big deal.
      You're already paying a big amount for the components, you might as shell out a bit more for the icue link.

    • @j.a.velarde5901
      @j.a.velarde5901 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@craig9365 I also prefer no rgb. I'm a stickler for saving money on lighting and I want to create less heat, even if the difference is minimal. - Do you have a brand name for non-rgb fans you want to suggest? ---- In regards to the above: I meant that the cooling system parts, like the water tank and the cpu coolers, dont have the "link" connector plug.

    • @user-to1su2iy4d
      @user-to1su2iy4d 10 месяцев назад

      ​@ahmedhamdan2009 If you're spending hours on cable management, you're the kind of sucker they're looking for. I'd rather get a case that allows better cable management than be an overpriced brand slave because I'm incompetent and lazy

  • @Deafgamer-b1q
    @Deafgamer-b1q 10 месяцев назад +1

    you're like my favorite youtuber Jay, your channel help's learn alot about computer's

  • @BerzerkaDurk
    @BerzerkaDurk 9 месяцев назад

    I think they did the 5x1 dupont connector was so if you had 2 of their devices, you could plug them into 1 header and still have the other usb header available. i ran into this problem before when I had 2 iCue devices in my X99 build.

  • @awetisimgaming7473
    @awetisimgaming7473 10 месяцев назад

    I have occasionally been really happy that they use the unkeyed connector for usb 2, just because if i have 2 of those, i can take a knife and a spare full size guy, and make 2 devices plug in to one header, or just slam them both in to the guy on its own.

  • @leftcoastfunk
    @leftcoastfunk 10 месяцев назад +8

    Jay: Corsair couldn't make something open source because this is a new thing and these types of cables & links didn't *exist* yet
    But Corsair could have just created the open standard themselves, duh! Instead we know if we choose these products we'll be 100% locked into Corsair's hyper-Xpensive ecosystem until the bitter end. If they made decent fans it might not be the worst thing ever, but they make some of the absolute worst fans out there
    Proprietary hardware/connectors/cables/adapters = bad
    Proprietary and *required* software often = bad too

    • @faeranne
      @faeranne 10 месяцев назад

      And even if they just did what *every other I2C manufacture* does, it would still be more than sufficient. There's a standard for documenting devices that use the I2C standard. Corsair likely even uses that standard internally. It would be a 0 effort problem to simply publish that document. The refusal to do so is the smoking gun.

  • @mr.guillotine3766
    @mr.guillotine3766 10 месяцев назад

    Seems great when implemented in the fans, but only half measures when it comes to everything else in their proprietary ecosystem. Maybe the next version will be more fleshed out.

  • @grenalis
    @grenalis 10 месяцев назад

    I do like the USB on a single row. Now you can put 2 in the same Mobo connector.

  • @Cwronaga216
    @Cwronaga216 10 месяцев назад

    What really sucks is that I have a future build coming up and I've always preferred the look of the Corsair Reservoir overall other brands but I would hate to have to buy a separate IQ hub for just a Reservoir in an EK Loop

  • @SSYoung125
    @SSYoung125 10 месяцев назад

    Jay's dad jokes +1 LEVEL UP +1

  • @camotech1314
    @camotech1314 10 месяцев назад +1

    French toast for breakfast, then tea and biscuits for after!!🤣

  • @johnathansmith1003
    @johnathansmith1003 10 месяцев назад +1

    2.4k in 8 minutes.. You're the greatest!

  • @cracklingice
    @cracklingice 10 месяцев назад +1

    They use that half size connector so you can still use the other port. Each USB2 connector is for two ports.

  • @scoundrel6778
    @scoundrel6778 10 месяцев назад

    Wow. That hub is less than half the size of the commander core. Epic

  • @schemage2210
    @schemage2210 10 месяцев назад +16

    The reason why people want an open hardware is that, when Corsair abandons this product line, and they will abandon this product line for the next shiny fad, these products can still be continued to be used!!! How many times have we seen this happen with Corsair alone? Open hardware standards make investing in the ecosystem a safer bet.

    • @RGInquisitor
      @RGInquisitor 10 месяцев назад +5

      Exactly! These things are pretty much shiny, expensive e-waste.

    • @faeranne
      @faeranne 10 месяцев назад

      And as I mentioned in another comment, there's not even the excuse he provided. I2C is standard, and the standard for documentation to sharing I2C commands and registers is open. The fact that Corsair refuses to share that (I've emailed and asked) shows they have no intent to make this usable, and zero care about what happens when they inevitably kill it.

  • @manfredgooden5110
    @manfredgooden5110 10 месяцев назад

    I've purchased to many corsair products with problems and headaches during the RMA process. My NV7 build I used all Phantek stuff and had zero problems.

  • @mrwizzard87
    @mrwizzard87 10 месяцев назад

    11:10 in an older corsair elite, I have the usb connector with the full 9 pin (4 conductor) and my motherboard only has one usb2 header, so it blocks me from having other peripherals (commander core anyone?) Without a splitter or rewiring them. Now an internal usb hub works for normal operation, except firmware updates fail unless it's plugged into the header directly. So I think the thin connector is a nice compromise for the real issue of usb2

  • @MrBrianms
    @MrBrianms 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was thinking about the metal components in the water block being in contact with water.
    Even after being submerged in water, this curious sand stays dry. To produce magic sand, companies start with standard sand, and silicon dioxide, and then add a very thin layer of a chemical called trimethylhydroxysilane. This coating makes the sand hydrophobic, or water-repellent. Is it possible to extend the life of the pump block with trimethylhydroxysilane?

  • @SoranoGuardias
    @SoranoGuardias 10 месяцев назад +5

    The USB C decision DOES make it easy to check your LCD for failure before install.

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks 10 месяцев назад

      its also probably because they couldn't fit that type of data rate in their specific connector, this is also why what Gamersnexus(despite his faults) is doing is actually a very good thing. working to create a standard for these connected computer devices that HOPEFULLY can carry full video signals at like 480x480.

  • @shaunmater6149
    @shaunmater6149 6 месяцев назад

    From an electrical stand point I would not suggest to pass through or daisy chain the power connectors and that might be the reason why they didn't do it for all of the accessories. As you connect more devices the first cable in the chain will have an increased load and warm up after time, especially with the pumps it might go over the cables current rating and reduce efficiency and could even burn a connector or cable after time. At least have case fans and pump on separate supplies.

  • @TheFridgeRadier
    @TheFridgeRadier 10 месяцев назад

    the pass through i can see on all rgb things but im sure the pump and lcd screen draws quite a bit of power and the picture to the lcd could be an issue as well

  • @michealfarley9423
    @michealfarley9423 10 месяцев назад +1

    😂😂😂 hungry for piece of the pie!!!! Great times all around

  • @user-wk8cx7wb9x
    @user-wk8cx7wb9x 10 месяцев назад +1

    I rebuilt my partner's PC recently. Part of the reason was to replace the 10 Cooler Master Halo fans with Corsair QX fans. Expensive yes, but they work better, look amazing & it is so nice to reduce the 20 cables to 2 to the hub & a couple of short daisy chain ones that are tucked away out of sight. I'll stick with the J2C CPU block thanks & they can absolutely keep that GPU abomination.

  • @TheFus
    @TheFus 10 месяцев назад

    That is a pretty poopy spot for that switch on the reservoir, especially if you're using hard tubing. This product line seems like a massive upgrade from the commander pro nightmare, but it definitely still needs some time to cook I think.

  • @SimFanatic
    @SimFanatic 10 месяцев назад

    Lmfao, "Infinite Power!" Not just funny in your head Jay, that was funny.

  • @otak3133
    @otak3133 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don't hate the size of the cable as much as the size of the connector. If they would just make the shroud hide that part the CPU blocks would look much better. There's no saving the GPU block.

  • @juniormathisen
    @juniormathisen 10 месяцев назад

    When testing a pump/res combo I can't be the only one to use two fittings and a hose? Fitting on pump outlet and res inlet, then a hose between. Fill it up half way and put on the power. Then you se if the pump works and lights if there is any? Am I doing it wrong? Do you need to make a whole test loop?

  • @joeshmoe9233
    @joeshmoe9233 10 месяцев назад +3

    If I was budgeting out a system, I would be much more inclined to just get a 4080Ti or a 4090, rather than a 4070Ti and a custom loop system.

  • @jonathankim6892
    @jonathankim6892 10 месяцев назад

    Biscuits are things used in woodworking to join planks together too. It makes sense

  • @sparkplugbarrens
    @sparkplugbarrens 10 месяцев назад

    daisychaining devices would add more cables to certain components like the pump res combo.

  • @Morshale
    @Morshale 10 месяцев назад

    I like the new eco system, but I have to say that the cable ends seem really chunky. Would be nice if they have a 2nd gen cable that can reduce the size of the cable ends.

  • @GamerErman2001
    @GamerErman2001 10 месяцев назад

    10:39 Even if nothing bad happens when it's plugged in wrong you know some people will be confused enough that they will return it thinking it doesn't work. Or at least support will have to deal with extra customers just because it confused a few of them.

  • @danielwoodland9576
    @danielwoodland9576 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just spent £820 quid for my hydro x cooling stuff but old gen as I like the look of them. But I couldn't find the hydro x strix 3080 in Stock anywhere but I got a phanteks glacier version gpu block instead.

  • @trunksviper6583
    @trunksviper6583 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jayz have you ever consider building a pc that is powerful but power efficient ? Also we know that you have your favorite thermal paste but what is you to go thermal pad for nvme drives or video cards chips ? Good work i enjoy the content and you have a great team.

  • @CarAudioInc
    @CarAudioInc 10 месяцев назад

    respect Jay so much for being real, that gpu block made me lawl

  • @theWheezle
    @theWheezle 10 месяцев назад +1

    I gotta say, as much as I really do like the look of the link fans, they dropped the ball on all of the hydro-x stuff, looks and usefulness.

  • @TheFinalIllusion
    @TheFinalIllusion 10 месяцев назад

    Was excited to do my first loop with the new reservoir until I needed to order a mess of cables 😢

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 10 месяцев назад

    10:35 I think some motherboards, the Asrock X570 Steel Legend for example, have a 5-pin USB2 header near the socket. I guess that cable is intended to use that.
    Also that face on the block looks like the “imma firin mah lazor” face

  • @vantharasc9967
    @vantharasc9967 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really really wanted this. Corsair is charging insane amounts of money for this. Just absolutely insane.

  • @svda7582
    @svda7582 10 месяцев назад

    I just finished my build with the new LINK stuff (only gpu cooler not because...), and my biggest problem was that the fittings om my radiator where blocking the ports off my fans. So i had to cut off access rubber of the cable end so it could fit... i surprised me that this was the case, in RnD this should have been a problem...

  • @Mildly_Amused
    @Mildly_Amused 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don't see why the wires have to be so think when you can get very thin CAT6E cables that handle high speed data and voltage. Do the Corsair cables actually need that much shielding?

  • @Chuyuck
    @Chuyuck 9 месяцев назад

    I like that usb connector, you can plug two things into one usb hub

  • @2009numan
    @2009numan 10 месяцев назад +1

    the connectors a bit like usb c then because they can be used either way round

  • @dallasblackburn7908
    @dallasblackburn7908 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm interested to see how the GPU cooler performs in terms of temps, especially the 4090 version

  • @ToughSailor31
    @ToughSailor31 10 месяцев назад +2

    GPU cooler looks like some unbranded device from 2004 you'd find in a local PC shop. LCD waterblock is cool but not worth the price

  • @FlyiiNG92
    @FlyiiNG92 10 месяцев назад

    I would like to do a waterloop but with braided hose. Looks nice. It should work right ?

  • @styeren
    @styeren 10 месяцев назад

    So I stopped at 10:52 just to type this. Jay, they may have done that connector that way so if you have or need more than one you can use the same connector on the motherboard, or if you already have a single connector like that then you don’t have to use a different usb connector on the board for this.

  • @ArtisanFoxx
    @ArtisanFoxx 10 месяцев назад

    Jay: "there was no communication device created, there was no cable existing to allow it to be open"
    USB C: "am I a joke to you?"

  • @TheBurnsStuff
    @TheBurnsStuff 10 месяцев назад

    I can't unsee the Sesame Street aliens saying "yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup, uhhhhhhh huhhhh" in the face of that cooler.

  • @TristynRusselo
    @TristynRusselo 10 месяцев назад

    the 2nd row of USB pins can be used for another device. its a 2nd usb port header

  • @samrec
    @samrec 10 месяцев назад

    Hopefullly they will update the product down the line as it matures

  • @TheMrMitosis
    @TheMrMitosis 10 месяцев назад

    I want to see the clear CPU block incorporated on one of the corsair AIOs

  • @Roman-cz3ws
    @Roman-cz3ws 10 месяцев назад

    Wish you will make a video 4 the waterblock as 1vs1 with many themp sensors ... I will see the performance of this 😅

  • @TheRealWoofer
    @TheRealWoofer 10 месяцев назад

    I think they could have come up with a port that could be made somewhat universally if they chose to, Jay. Hell, just a pinned down USB-c porting or something, would make it so other manufacturers who buy up usbc case stock, could adapt something that would work with a direct connection to iCue’s systems. Real problem is that Corsair has always tried to make things proprietary up till now, and everyone knows it 😂😏
    I’m kinda glad they did it on the block, but that just proves my point. At least if all the devices were usb-c connected, then it wouldn’t be such a waste of a header on the board, long as it’s running ALL of your RGB and/or power.

  • @horizon4895
    @horizon4895 10 месяцев назад

    But the thing is, this kind of stuff has existed before in a smaller scale, i.e. Lian Li Unifans. And even that is proprietary. And it's frustrating, because we already have methods of transferring power and data without needing all this ecosystem locking. But it being locked to an ecosystem benefits Lian Li and Corsair a lot more for things like data collection through their respective softwares.