Linus getting the whale PC for LTX from the company that has a PP rocket as the logo... then Jay getting wearing the Origin logo like a target on his nether regions... these are our content creators folks. I'm so proud.
This review is completely pointless and disingenuous. Origin knowingly sending a Pc to a RUclipsr with 4M subscribers and expecting a true reflection of Origin builds is absurd.
I am getting up there in age and my building finesse is going down the shitter if you will. I was seriously considering OriginPC till I saw that Steve video and put the brakes on it right quick. Ended up getting my parts at Microcenter and having it built there and couldn't be happier. Really is a shame Microcenters aren't more available.
I can agree about the fear for building a custom water cooled system. I couldn't do it 2 years ago and since then all I wanna do is build systems like these with varied cooling performance (starting from Itx 400W to even 1200W ATX ones up to 4 radiators). I already built 5 computers and I'm off to build the 6th which is going to be a gift to my father. Your channel has been a great help and an inspiration.
I’m new to PCs, do you mind explaining what he meant about the fans not knowing when to ramp up bc they aren’t connected to the gpu through the software?? I’m confused
@@CiiTy_1 i need to watch it again. But from what I understood is that Origin didn't use a PWM cable (probably used SATA to JST or Molex to JST, running the fans at full speed) so the fans couldn't be coupled with the sensors in the GPU. I'll edit this comment once I find the time where he commented on the fan PWM. Update: found it at 14:00 he meant that the fans were not connected to Corsair's iCue software. This way the GPUs temperatures couldn't be coupled with the installed fan's PWM signal.
Pc building simulator is indeed awesome. No just kidding you are completely right i had the same at first. Everything is frightening if you never done it and there i a lot of money involved but it can be so simple when you eventually have done it.
I grew up building my own computers. The first one I built was a Pentium 120mhz from parts people were throwing out at my local PC store. Last year, I ordered a machine to be custom built and shipped to me. The reason I wanted to do that was I was moving to a new city, needed a PC to be ready to go as soon as I got to my new place. Would I do it again? No. I'm already planning a mini-itx build. I just need to convince my wife we need it for... something. If you're in Australia, I do recommend pccasegear if you want a prebuilt machine. You can pick from their list of machines or put all the stuff you want in the cart and then just add the build it for me item. Pretty nice. I've bought from them for at least 15 years and they've always been good, even with RA and returns.
I've always wanted positive pressure in the case, to keep the dust out. Some people claim that isn't as good from a cooling POV but I'd rather have that than have to clean out the inside of my PC every week. If the PC is in a room with carpet or pets, you're going to have a nightmare. Maybe not so much in an office environment.
@@quantum5661 During the spring and summer in the UK we get dust blowing over from the Sahara. I have cats. Not to mention pollen from all the farm fields in the area, concrete factories, smoke. Where do you live, the North Pole?
That rotating thing you have put the cases on has been such a great addition to your channel. It is so much easier and smoother to move the systems that it is not distracting.
Just leaving that expansion card in the plastic bag it probably came in would have prevented that issue. Also, you're absolutely right about positive pressure being the way to go. Anybody with pets will know this.
Get powerful air-purifiers throughout your house, dude. Everybody should have that 💁♂️ Get ones from the Blue Air Blue Pure line. And err towards larger sizes. Change your life.
It's not that serious. The slight rubbing off the paint to a component that you may not use or will it be seen if installed is not going to effect the performance. You all are just nit picking.
i think the filter is there because the customer may change the fans o intake later down the road, but maybe add a sticker so that people are aware they should remove it upon arrival if it's gonna be set to an exhaust out of the box.
Hey Jay, I love that you showed me about fancontrol. Let me return you the favour with SignalRGB! It's my go to to control ALL my RGB from one place, WITHOUT Armory Crate, iCUE, Logitech or any other apps running to manage my lighting! Best of all, most of the app is free, with worthwhile add-ons IF you want to pay a little bit to show support. I seriously cannot recommend SignalRGB enough!
The idea of doing a video on "getting your prebuilt up to speed" sounds like a great idea. I enjoy your content. As a former PC guru, I am 70ish and retired, you keep it interesting. I only do prebuilt now, getting old sucks! Keep the vids coming.
Wow, just *wow!* I was on the edge of my seat waiting for you to take the side panel off. Tubes not being aligned *perfectly* in expensive systems like this one is my biggest pet peeve. The panel came off and my jaw hit the floor. What a glorious machine.
Truth be told the loops are fairly messy and over complicated that's why they're not aligned perfectly. Almost impossible to do without spending an absurd amount of time and materials.
You should definitely make a follow-up video on this and 6. All the little mistakes that you feel need to be fixed like the fans being switched around and make them intakes instead of. Exhaust
He should order the same thing anonymously and show the disaster. Doesn't matter what was wrong with this PC, you are not getting this from origin in a million years anyway.
you can see which e-cores are beside the p-cores in the chip cause those cores are hitting in the 70's while the other further away from the p-cores are in the 60's
I completely agree with a Origin that exhaust makes sense because radiators are hot and you want to dump that air out and I completely agree with J exhaust fans should never have filters.
if anything, a.. probably $6000 custom rig like this should be using push/pull with some big ass noctua industrial fans to move ridiculous amounts of air. i'm talking those 3000rpm ones that hit like 160cfm or so. though i wonder if that stops being effective after a while, when you're moving so much air thorugh such a small space. but i guess if priority number one in a rig is whether the fan has a glowing ring on it, the actual effective cooling capability wouldn't matter much anyways
Bios updates are important. Redoing all the bios settings after an update is a pain. It's more of a pain if you are insane like me and insist on bios only overclocking. I used to take pictures of settings with my phone, but sone genius out there mentioned an amazing life hack for asus boards, and probably others too. You just hit f12 and it saves a screenshot to a usb drive if inserted while you are in any bios screen. What a game changer. I won't be putting off bios updates anymore due to laziness and hassles related to redoing settings. It's easy enough with that little life hack. Took me 20 years to ease the pain but who knows how long this feature has been out.
I wouldn't personally buy a prebuilt fullstop, so I'm a bit biased... I think there are some some oversights like all fans exhausting and being pwm controlled I wouldn't want as a customer. I'm more than capable of fixing these things, but the whole point is not having to deal with it.
@@Deviczek "They" and "them" have been used for a very long time when you didn't know the gender of who you're talking about (Saying "Give them a raise" is normal) and it's also been used to refer to animals. It's not an LGBTQ thing. That's a whole 'nother story.
I recently bought one of Corsairs build kits because I'm getting too lazy to think as I get older. It was a great experience overall. There were a few order of operations things that needed to be changed in their online instructions (I checked them out just to see what the first-time builder would deal with). Also the case needed to have one of the optional panels removed in order to even use the 24-pin cable. But overall, I couldn't be happier all things considered.
I’ve got a Corsair build kit that’s getting delivered today, and I can’t wait! It’s my first ever desktop, and I’m coming from a laptop I’ve had since 2017 :)
I think Jay did a video on that kit - might be worth looking at. Good luck with it- you're more adventurous than most going open loop (even with a kit) on a first build!
@@quirinaled2752 Oh thanks so much! I had a friend put it together for me since I didn't trust myself..But it's better then going with another laptop! I'm enjoying this experience :) I can comfortably game at 4K/2K and it's such a big difference from the graphics I'm used to
Hey Jay, You made an incredible job of communicating building a custom loop is doable for everyone. So much so that I started building mine. It's actually a lot easier than I anticipated as I'm not really good at DIY. All that brought me back to my first computer build (a 486 DX 2...). It was so much fun, a lot more than a regular build. Now, my GPU water block came broken out of the box, but as soon as I have a good one, the full loop will be finished. I can't wait.
I stopped using Armory Crate and iCue when SignalRGB matured enough to work with EVERYTHING I have in the PC. I totally suggest you start trying SRGB in videos. Also, it's free for the base program.
Oh be quiet! The rubbing off of the paint on the expansion card does not effect the performance of the card. And also, the damn expansion card will be barely seen if installed.
@@joyfulkiller9400 I don't think that it's okay to receive a slightly cosmetically damaged expansion card. The problem is that it's not a deal breaker. Should you call the company to let them know about it? Yes! Mostly like the company will send you out another expansion card or refund you a certain agreed upon amount for their error. Mistakes happens! This is not that serious that you all are trying to make this out to be.
My good friend helped me build my first rig and it is still running with 2 graphics card updates . This time I'm planning to build my wife's and my own thanks to you and GN (as much as I'd like to do water cooling just doesn't seem the most feasible). All I'm waiting on is the latest generation to get itself settled in. Thank you. 😊
Thanks so much for this very informative and no BS video!! You always tell it like it is!! I've been looking at Origin for a long time and was almost ready to pull the trigger, when the $6500 machine debacle happened!! This along with the melting cables on the 13900K stopped me in my tracks. This video went a long way in restoring my faith in Origin!! I've always been on the fence on should I go with AMD or Intel!! Wonder if you have in words of wisdom on that subject!! Thanks again!!
Honestly, both AMD and Intel are doing good right now. Intel is slightly better at gaming unless you get an X3D chip. AMD is slightly better for most productivity and multi-threaded tasks (like streaming or some games). AMD is also slightly more power efficient right now so if heat and energy are a problem for you than AMD may be a better option, or for laptops.
@@morgan40654 Thanks so much for you input!! I’ve been looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D!! I will primarily use the new machine for flight simming!! Again thanks so much for you input!!
It seems like a very nice PC disregarding the spare parts in the box. If I had less time and more money I could see myself getting one. Right now I prefer to build my own PCs. I enjoy putting them together as I find it satisfying to see my plans come together.
Hey folks who read these comments (Jay????) I just wanted to say thanks! As a life long gamer, and PC user I finally built my own rig. I am extreamly proud of it, i think it turned out great. Jay's vids where super helpful, especially the "what to do on start up" vid and OOBE Win11 hack I learned about. So thanks Jay and the JayzTwoCents team!
I don't know about the tubes, but my brother bought 2 PCs from them for his kids and they were both cable managed just like this one...He went with AIOs, so no hard tubes...
I'm with Jay. For my first custom loop, I just copied his "water-cooling for beginners "video. I ended up going with soft tubing because I cannot bend tubes. Gotta keep practicing. I have six intake; side and front, side is coming through a 360 rad and I do have the top rad with three fans exhausting as well as one rear fan exhausting. Everything works great and stays super cool. Great vid!
9:45 The worst thing I've found with Asus motherboard lighting is they usually only give you on/off as the only options inside BIOS, so you have to install Armoury just to change it if you want it on.
What I hate about mine is that the lighting always comes back if I completely unplug the system or if there's a power outage. FFS, it's doing its rgb-puke even while the pc is off. I'm definitely going with 0 rgb components next time if it's still even a thing in this market.
I think another point towards diy would also be how far air coolers have come. You can easily run some pretty expensive components on full air cooling and not worry about temps. Much easier and less hassle to install.
So as to what you said in this video, I actually bought but a prebuild custom build because i wasn't confident. However I didn't get into your channel until afterwards, but since then, I've stripped my pc down to bare parts and rebuild it purely thanks of your videos. You're amazing and the way you walk thing through is great. I'll always recommend you to anyone in my situation.
Agreed. That what I did then my 4u system was watercooled. I changed to air cooling because I didn't want to brother anymore, noctua cooler are awesome and my red devil 7900xrx is overbuilt, not thermal issue what's so ever. But my case fans are still tied to the sensor who check the temperature around the video card so they bloc harder when I game
17:42 You can actually use grafics card temperature as a source for fan profiling. In Armory Crate you can select up to three sources and the fans work according to the source that has the highest temperature. I, for example, have as sources the CPU, graphic card and VRM. I have custom fan profile and they ramp up based on the highest temperature from the three sources
they just need to put a coolant temp sensor in.. pick the water temp you want to maintain. ramp fans according to that temp. the coolant cools the system. the fans cool the coolant. i do this in my custom loops with no issues. much easier to set your positive pressure in the case too. lots of mobos have at least one thermal plug on them now.. often for aio stuff
@@xenodraken377Yes! Thats the way to do it...Using the water temp instead of the gpu temp keeps the fans from ramping up and down so much with the gpu load...It just smoothes it out and it will keep the cpu and the gpu happy...
I just built my own pc. I went with a amd build. Cpu amd 7950x gpu radeon 7900xtx. Total cost was 3300 bucks. I really wanted the msi godlike board but 1300 bucks for a mb was tough haha. I went with the Asus proart x670E-creator wifI board. No problems so far. Runs smooth.
My latest build is almost exactly the same. I have a 5950x and an FE 3090ti, same rads, fans, and pump res combo. I used soft line and the back rad is supply air with top rad as exhaust. I added a rear exhaust fan as well. I use iQue software only and it works perfectly. With gameboost turned on and iQue in silent mode, cpu idles at 55c and gpu idles at 43c.
I picked up the lazy susan you use and recommended a while back, Jay. It's been great to use, and the fact that it can handle about 200 lbs. means it can handle just about any system, monitor, or TV.
Jay you don't need Armory Crate to control the board lights, you can still get the standalone Aura Sync (RGB control only). It will then work with iCue, it even recognises my 4090 FE to allow me to sync the RGB top and bottom LEDs with iCue (it lists the GPU as an ASUS lol).
Needed a fast replacement PC so I went with one of Origins spicey builds. Came leaking fluid and immediately had to send it back. When it returned to me the next month or so later, the box was trashed but they had finally added enough padding that MOST of the build arrived undamaged. Had to buy a backup computer in the interim and have my carpets cleaned. But at least I paid an extra grand to have someone else build it for me. Great experience.
Hi Jay. A muffler/exhaust shop has a particular tube bender machine used to create custom exhaust pipes. One day, we'll be able to buy a smaller one for bending our tubing. It would work better than the bend gauges we have today. I built a heat gun holder to heat my tubing, ensuring my tubes are heated to the correct temperature. It's a straightforward DIY project.
Honestly, water cooling sucks. Getting it up and running for the first time is fun, but the maintenance is a huge annoyance and be prepared for any minor work you do inside your PC to become 10x for difficult. Ultimately, it's not worth it because extreme overclocking has little real-world benefit and there are some really high performing air cooling solutions out there.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 yeah 100% agreed… Maybe back in the day, it was worth it to fully water cool, but nowadays, AIOs and air cooling are enough luckily. Nor is there reason to overclock much.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 That's true what you said about watercooling but there is also: better noise and temps, sick aesthetic, DIY-ing and trying to make it all work, and it really gives you a sense of acomplishment. Also everyone will have something unique (unless you do an O11 dynamic lol). Also I don't know what you mean about maintenance.... just replace coolant once a year or two and maybe check the orings and you're good. If you design your loop properly it shouldn't be a pain.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 Honestly it doesn't have to be like that. Depends on your entire setup, case and coolant. I've been water cooling for probably well over 10 years, back in the beginning it was a bit of a pain because my loops were not as efficient as they should have been and I did not keep future upgrades etc in mind or place a drain in a perfect place. If you're planning on upgrading a cpu or gpu in the next 6 - 12 months don't bother building a loop for it. I've got a 7900xtx on fans right now soon to be water cooled, I cant wait to get rid of the fans they're actually super loud. Also, watercooling a pc isnt for everyone and thats fine, most people ask me why I bother or whats the point? These people will never understand why.
To me building PC’s is a lot of fun and very rewarding. It’s really not that difficult, you have like 7-8 major components that you assemble together and that’s basically it. If you are new to building PC’s don’t be intimidated and just take your time! It’s not a race, enjoy the process and sense of accomplishment once you finally have it altogether. The feeling of having a PC that YOU built boot- up and run for the first is really satisfying :) Then running benchmarks to see how YOUR creation stacks up is really fun as well. Once you’ve built your first PC this will give you confidence to perhaps eventually take it a step farther with a custom loop, etc. Also, it’s nice to be able to help out friends / family.
Listening to you speak about the fan speed based on CPU or GPU temp made me wonder, is there any way to control the RPM based on the fluid temp ? If so is it a better solution ? Planning to go for a delided watercool for my next build
I could not agree more to that. I got an AIO from nzxt and there the pump speed is based on CPU temp where the fan speed on the rad is controlled by liquid temp. Why would a custom loop be different, right.
Yes. With a temp sensor in the loop and appropriate software you can. Aquacomputer's Aquasuite with either their Aquaero, Octo, or Quadro hardware controller is probably the most full featured and configurable fan control solution you can buy. You may also be able to do it with a Corsair Commander Pro, open source source software like Fan Control in combination with a temp sensor input on the motherboard, or whatever your motherboard's fan control software is and temp sensor input. I'm always surprised that Jay never puts a temp sensor in his loops. Basing fan speed on the temperature of the water over the ambient temperature in the room is a better way to control fan speed in a watercooled computer than CPU or GPU temp. If only because fans will gradually ramp up if need be.
@@Gridlynk Exactly, this is how cars have worked for a fair while now, as far as i’m aware coolant temp is the only variable that will control the radiator fan
@@Gridlynk Thanks a lot for the precision and all the details, guess I'm gonna add some of these items in the final shopping cart. Seems like the most logical solution to me. And you're right, I was questionning myself and among the couple techtuber I watch, I think I've never seen any of them actually doing a topic for that specific configuration
I'm really confused why Jay of all people would be talking about running fans based on the GPU temps on a water cooled system. You always run the fans based on the water's temps. The fans cool the water, which in turn cools the components.Running the fans based on components, you're almost always going to have the fans spinning way faster, and louder, than they need to be. Only when the water hits heat saturation would the fans be at a sensible speed. Also, Corsair recommends all exhaust for those cases. They get better temps that way, so you're not really "agreeing to disagree". They actually have testing to base their opinion on.
10:51 i don't have any problems with negative pressure setups, i prefer them. cause you can always slap a mesh magnetic filter over the "intakes" but also i'd rather have "natural" intake, than like a forced intake, that would cause dust buildup wherever the intake dumps (you know like under a cpu cooler on the MB where the dust/air is forced packed) with natural air intake, it'll be more dust in general, but at least it won't be packed in there, like it would be with an "intake" fan
Been very happy with my OriginPC. 13900k and 4090 for $3.8K. Only delivery issue was loose 24pin. That said, free accessory audio/streaming bundle took over a month to ship and took multiple calls/emails to resolve.
I agree about the fan direction. A pressurized case has more air molecules available to communicate heat away from components. A negative pressure has fewer molecules...it's that simple. Not to mention the unfiltered dust and pet fur being sucked in from every crevice. Hard to believe they did that.
I bought a PC from origin for just over 9k. Water cooled loop. The whole nine. They put the intake fans on the top of the PC and the exhaust fans on the back. I've built plenty of PCs but wanted something nicer. Never again.
Can confirm the title, received a computer in a crate back in December 2013 from a company called "Valve". Was a great computer, really compact and functional for its day.
I agree with Jay that having all Exhaust fans is a terrible idea because there is not enough fresh cool air getting into the PC. I also prefer front intake fans and having it exhaust out the back and on top.
I am running a similar gig but not with negative pressure but with air going through the proper filtration and channels. Corsair 7000D (suspiciously identical to this case), 3x140mm fans front for intake with a 420 radiator, 3x140mm fans top with a 420 radiator +1x140mm rear for exhausts + XD7 reservoir at the side where the fans of this system are. (Case requires minor modding to fit the XD7 there even tho they are both corsair products but i had to, in order to have the airflow front to top) a) Mine is not a mess of tubing b ) it actually has airflow compared to this c) you can remove the RAM if you want to, d) used to have a 1080 TI in the loop and it was on a PCIe extender so if there are any drops from the CPU nozzles ever, they won't drop on the GPU, but upgrading to a 3080 recently, decided to not add it in the loop yet (warranty related). all ♥J!
I've retired and so funds aren't anywhere near what they used to be so builds like this are just pipe dreams for me , I'm running an i7 9700k with an Asus Rog Strix 3070ti oc and 32gb of ddr4 3200mhz Ram on an Aorus pro MB . This will have to last me until I go to PC gaming Heaven ....
HWMonitor is such a great tool for solving heat-related issues. It helped to solve why my old 2600X kept randomly shutting down - it was overheating with the stock cooler. Replaced the cooler with a be Quiet! Shadow Rock 3 and no more issues. Still using the same cooler on my 3700X now.
If you want a quiet, low-maintenance, high-performance system, do this: No water cooling nonsense, use really good air coolers like NH-D15, very good airflow case, NO dust filters, and all fans on FIXED speed. Yes, all fans at the same speed all the time (except GPU), and seal every crack and hole in the case that’s not explicitly part of the intended airflow path, using vinyl adhesive sheets (Amazon). If you do everything I outlined, the case fans at low silent speed will be PLENTY when your game is at full-throttle. Now you have an ultra-quiet system. And no water-cooling nonsense to fuss around with next time you want to upgrade components.
I have 2 origin products... first computer probably 4 years ago. Amazing experience, rma process. They did a honest 5 star experience for me. So I bought my son one for Christmas last year... 3 month rma for A dead screen... multiple day response times. They forgot to install the control center TWICE. Once when it was new and a second after they had to replace the panel. Both times I had to install me self. Which makes me sad since they have good products. But after they got bought out... after my last experience,I think I'll have to try another company for my laptops.
Last two machines I bought was the Microcenter Brand. All common components, no fuss, nice cases, etc. and price is really fair. Highly recommend them.
I gave up trying to get iCue to work with my ASRock MB, Asus 4090, etc. I just bit the bullet and moved to SignalRGB. The free version does everything I need and just works.
RTX 4090 with out a right angle power adapter -100 points, using a QLC NAND based Storage SSD -50 points, Confusing Jay with the tubing runs - Priceless.
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Linus getting the whale PC for LTX from the company that has a PP rocket as the logo... then Jay getting wearing the Origin logo like a target on his nether regions... these are our content creators folks. I'm so proud.
I feel like he was wearing them back-to-front, honestly
If they would not be that way, we would not watch
@@nilac1987try ask mummy if she will let you out of your basement, get a life ffs😂😂
What are you mad or something cuz it kinda seems that way
This review is completely pointless and disingenuous. Origin knowingly sending a Pc to a RUclipsr with 4M subscribers and expecting a true reflection of Origin builds is absurd.
"I'm sick of this shit."
That was amazingly candid.
I am getting up there in age and my building finesse is going down the shitter if you will. I was seriously considering OriginPC till I saw that Steve video and put the brakes on it right quick. Ended up getting my parts at Microcenter and having it built there and couldn't be happier. Really is a shame Microcenters aren't more available.
I can agree about the fear for building a custom water cooled system. I couldn't do it 2 years ago and since then all I wanna do is build systems like these with varied cooling performance (starting from Itx 400W to even 1200W ATX ones up to 4 radiators). I already built 5 computers and I'm off to build the 6th which is going to be a gift to my father. Your channel has been a great help and an inspiration.
I’m new to PCs, do you mind explaining what he meant about the fans not knowing when to ramp up bc they aren’t connected to the gpu through the software?? I’m confused
@@CiiTy_1 i need to watch it again. But from what I understood is that Origin didn't use a PWM cable (probably used SATA to JST or Molex to JST, running the fans at full speed) so the fans couldn't be coupled with the sensors in the GPU.
I'll edit this comment once I find the time where he commented on the fan PWM.
Update: found it at 14:00 he meant that the fans were not connected to Corsair's iCue software. This way the GPUs temperatures couldn't be coupled with the installed fan's PWM signal.
Pc building simulator is indeed awesome. No just kidding you are completely right i had the same at first. Everything is frightening if you never done it and there i a lot of money involved but it can be so simple when you eventually have done it.
It's not so much about fear, as more like "wth is the point?" Water cooling is great if your only game is cinebench.
It's obvious how much laughter Phil and Nic had to stifle while Jay waited out the installs...
When the PC comes in a crate, you know it's gonna be good! well you would think
I love Phil's laugh.
I grew up building my own computers. The first one I built was a Pentium 120mhz from parts people were throwing out at my local PC store. Last year, I ordered a machine to be custom built and shipped to me. The reason I wanted to do that was I was moving to a new city, needed a PC to be ready to go as soon as I got to my new place. Would I do it again? No. I'm already planning a mini-itx build. I just need to convince my wife we need it for... something. If you're in Australia, I do recommend pccasegear if you want a prebuilt machine. You can pick from their list of machines or put all the stuff you want in the cart and then just add the build it for me item. Pretty nice. I've bought from them for at least 15 years and they've always been good, even with RA and returns.
I've always wanted positive pressure in the case, to keep the dust out. Some people claim that isn't as good from a cooling POV but I'd rather have that than have to clean out the inside of my PC every week. If the PC is in a room with carpet or pets, you're going to have a nightmare. Maybe not so much in an office environment.
how the hell is your place so dusty you gotta clean your rig every month? i got an intake filter but i only do mine like three times a year
@@quantum5661 During the spring and summer in the UK we get dust blowing over from the Sahara. I have cats. Not to mention pollen from all the farm fields in the area, concrete factories, smoke. Where do you live, the North Pole?
@@quantum5661I got no filter and I clean my PC about once a year.
That rotating thing you have put the cases on has been such a great addition to your channel. It is so much easier and smoother to move the systems that it is not distracting.
They are called Lazy Susans for anyone curious 👍🏼 I love when he spins a build around
You are so right. AMAZON has a lovely wood 14" Lazy Susan for $17.00. It's the one I use for my full tower case.
You can also find them at Michaels, under the baking aisle.
Just leaving that expansion card in the plastic bag it probably came in would have prevented that issue. Also, you're absolutely right about positive pressure being the way to go. Anybody with pets will know this.
I bet they have a policy to test components before shipping. they should have repackaged it for sure
Or, at the very least: get filters over the areas that intake air
yes, with negative pressure your pets will get sucked in and stuck to the case🐈🐕
(im kidding)
Get powerful air-purifiers throughout your house, dude. Everybody should have that 💁♂️ Get ones from the Blue Air Blue Pure line. And err towards larger sizes. Change your life.
It's not that serious. The slight rubbing off the paint to a component that you may not use or will it be seen if installed is not going to effect the performance. You all are just nit picking.
i think the filter is there because the customer may change the fans o intake later down the road, but maybe add a sticker so that people are aware they should remove it upon arrival if it's gonna be set to an exhaust out of the box.
I just built my first pc about a month ago watching your videos!! it helped a lot and dont regret it one bit
Hey Jay, I love that you showed me about fancontrol. Let me return you the favour with SignalRGB! It's my go to to control ALL my RGB from one place, WITHOUT Armory Crate, iCUE, Logitech or any other apps running to manage my lighting! Best of all, most of the app is free, with worthwhile add-ons IF you want to pay a little bit to show support.
I seriously cannot recommend SignalRGB enough!
The idea of doing a video on "getting your prebuilt up to speed" sounds like a great idea. I enjoy your content. As a former PC guru, I am 70ish and retired, you keep it interesting. I only do prebuilt now, getting old sucks! Keep the vids coming.
Wow, just *wow!*
I was on the edge of my seat waiting for you to take the side panel off. Tubes not being aligned *perfectly* in expensive systems like this one is my biggest pet peeve.
The panel came off and my jaw hit the floor. What a glorious machine.
Truth be told the loops are fairly messy and over complicated that's why they're not aligned perfectly. Almost impossible to do without spending an absurd amount of time and materials.
"When the PC comes in a crate, you know you paid to much for it."
18:22 Amoury Crate & Fan Xpert can in fact read GPU temps.
You should definitely make a follow-up video on this and 6. All the little mistakes that you feel need to be fixed like the fans being switched around and make them intakes instead of.
Exhaust
He should order the same thing anonymously and show the disaster. Doesn't matter what was wrong with this PC, you are not getting this from origin in a million years anyway.
When the computer comes in a crate, I know I will never afford it.
The one techtuber that has me laughing is you Jay. You definitely appear fun to be around haha
you can see which e-cores are beside the p-cores in the chip cause those cores are hitting in the 70's while the other further away from the p-cores are in the 60's
I completely agree with a Origin that exhaust makes sense because radiators are hot and you want to dump that air out and I completely agree with J exhaust fans should never have filters.
if anything, a.. probably $6000 custom rig like this should be using push/pull with some big ass noctua industrial fans to move ridiculous amounts of air. i'm talking those 3000rpm ones that hit like 160cfm or so. though i wonder if that stops being effective after a while, when you're moving so much air thorugh such a small space. but i guess if priority number one in a rig is whether the fan has a glowing ring on it, the actual effective cooling capability wouldn't matter much anyways
Bios updates are important. Redoing all the bios settings after an update is a pain. It's more of a pain if you are insane like me and insist on bios only overclocking. I used to take pictures of settings with my phone, but sone genius out there mentioned an amazing life hack for asus boards, and probably others too. You just hit f12 and it saves a screenshot to a usb drive if inserted while you are in any bios screen. What a game changer. I won't be putting off bios updates anymore due to laziness and hassles related to redoing settings. It's easy enough with that little life hack. Took me 20 years to ease the pain but who knows how long this feature has been out.
I wouldn't personally buy a prebuilt fullstop, so I'm a bit biased... I think there are some some oversights like all fans exhausting and being pwm controlled I wouldn't want as a customer. I'm more than capable of fixing these things, but the whole point is not having to deal with it.
I use Fan Control to run my case fans based on the max of CPU and GPU temps. Great piece of software.
Air cooled or custom water cooled?
I set up my loop with a water temp sensor connected to the motherboard, and setting the fan curves on that. Been working like a charm
That should basically be standard. Set the fan curves based on WATER temp. Setting curves based on CPU and GPU temps makes no sense.
Give the man/woman who did the tubing a raise! 😂 I love the design of the build
Whom ever did that tubing is an Artist! Looks really cool.
People stop with the cringy pronouns. All you had to say was "give that 'person' a raise".
@@gemininimeg As long as there's no use of "they" for singular person, it's fine.
@@Deviczek "They" and "them" have been used for a very long time when you didn't know the gender of who you're talking about (Saying "Give them a raise" is normal) and it's also been used to refer to animals. It's not an LGBTQ thing. That's a whole 'nother story.
@@vigilant_1934 Are you saying you can't differentiate between man and a woman?
I recently bought one of Corsairs build kits because I'm getting too lazy to think as I get older. It was a great experience overall. There were a few order of operations things that needed to be changed in their online instructions (I checked them out just to see what the first-time builder would deal with). Also the case needed to have one of the optional panels removed in order to even use the 24-pin cable. But overall, I couldn't be happier all things considered.
I’ve got a Corsair build kit that’s getting delivered today, and I can’t wait! It’s my first ever desktop, and I’m coming from a laptop I’ve had since 2017 :)
I think Jay did a video on that kit - might be worth looking at. Good luck with it- you're more adventurous than most going open loop (even with a kit) on a first build!
@@quirinaled2752 Oh thanks so much! I had a friend put it together for me since I didn't trust myself..But it's better then going with another laptop! I'm enjoying this experience :) I can comfortably game at 4K/2K and it's such a big difference from the graphics I'm used to
Hey Jay,
You made an incredible job of communicating building a custom loop is doable for everyone.
So much so that I started building mine.
It's actually a lot easier than I anticipated as I'm not really good at DIY.
All that brought me back to my first computer build (a 486 DX 2...).
It was so much fun, a lot more than a regular build.
Now, my GPU water block came broken out of the box, but as soon as I have a good one, the full loop will be finished. I can't wait.
I stopped using Armory Crate and iCue when SignalRGB matured enough to work with EVERYTHING I have in the PC. I totally suggest you start trying SRGB in videos. Also, it's free for the base program.
Armory Crate made my PC crash!
OpenRGB is also nice, and very customizable with more effect plugins
That crate unboxing is one of the most memorable moments of the channel for me
I can not wait for Torx to fully map itself out. It is SO MUCH BETTER than any of the other types of screws😅
I could imagine the Boss seeing those parts floating around with no bubble wrap or foam, They were doing so well
Oh be quiet! The rubbing off of the paint on the expansion card does not effect the performance of the card. And also, the damn expansion card will be barely seen if installed.
@@disguiseddv8ant486for near $7000 that’s simply not good enough
@@disguiseddv8ant486Have you seen origin prices?
@@disguiseddv8ant486 so you think its ok to get a damaged part? No point in buying from them if your parts can have cosmetic damage.
@@joyfulkiller9400 I don't think that it's okay to receive a slightly cosmetically damaged expansion card. The problem is that it's not a deal breaker. Should you call the company to let them know about it? Yes! Mostly like the company will send you out another expansion card or refund you a certain agreed upon amount for their error. Mistakes happens! This is not that serious that you all are trying to make this out to be.
My good friend helped me build my first rig and it is still running with 2 graphics card updates . This time I'm planning to build my wife's and my own thanks to you and GN (as much as I'd like to do water cooling just doesn't seem the most feasible). All I'm waiting on is the latest generation to get itself settled in. Thank you. 😊
Thanks so much for this very informative and no BS video!! You always tell it like it is!! I've been looking at Origin for a long time and was almost ready to pull the trigger, when the $6500 machine debacle happened!! This along with the melting cables on the 13900K stopped me in my tracks. This video went a long way in restoring my faith in Origin!! I've always been on the fence on should I go with AMD or Intel!! Wonder if you have in words of wisdom on that subject!! Thanks again!!
Honestly, both AMD and Intel are doing good right now. Intel is slightly better at gaming unless you get an X3D chip. AMD is slightly better for most productivity and multi-threaded tasks (like streaming or some games). AMD is also slightly more power efficient right now so if heat and energy are a problem for you than AMD may be a better option, or for laptops.
@@morgan40654
Thanks so much for you input!! I’ve been looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D!! I will primarily use the new machine for flight simming!! Again thanks so much for you input!!
I agree, what to tweak and or change on your prebuilt should be an upcoming segment.
My pc came in a mc donalds bag, and im not loving it
Jay throwing that filter away is a visual smack down.
It seems like a very nice PC disregarding the spare parts in the box. If I had less time and more money I could see myself getting one. Right now I prefer to build my own PCs. I enjoy putting them together as I find it satisfying to see my plans come together.
It should be, for 4300 USD.....
I could build 2 gaming systems for that price.
Yeah that's what i did too. @@mikem9536
Hey folks who read these comments (Jay????)
I just wanted to say thanks! As a life long gamer, and PC user I finally built my own rig. I am extreamly proud of it, i think it turned out great. Jay's vids where super helpful, especially the "what to do on start up" vid and OOBE Win11 hack I learned about.
So thanks Jay and the JayzTwoCents team!
I could bet that the tube runs and cable management aren't nearly as perfect if you order this as a regular customer
I don't know about the tubes, but my brother bought 2 PCs from them for his kids and they were both cable managed just like this one...He went with AIOs, so no hard tubes...
Of course
Cables are nothing, but you are not getting that kind of loop EVER.
I will always build my own.
All exhaust just sounds nutty. Positive pressure is the tried an true path to follow.
I'm with Jay. For my first custom loop, I just copied his "water-cooling for beginners "video. I ended up going with soft tubing because I cannot bend tubes. Gotta keep practicing. I have six intake; side and front, side is coming through a 360 rad and I do have the top rad with three fans exhausting as well as one rear fan exhausting. Everything works great and stays super cool. Great vid!
Jay you are imho, the most realest and best techtuber, love the transparency, knowledge, and the dad jokes, especially the dad jokes!
9:45 The worst thing I've found with Asus motherboard lighting is they usually only give you on/off as the only options inside BIOS, so you have to install Armoury just to change it if you want it on.
What I hate about mine is that the lighting always comes back if I completely unplug the system or if there's a power outage. FFS, it's doing its rgb-puke even while the pc is off. I'm definitely going with 0 rgb components next time if it's still even a thing in this market.
I think another point towards diy would also be how far air coolers have come. You can easily run some pretty expensive components on full air cooling and not worry about temps. Much easier and less hassle to install.
You can easly run every single component o air cooling, even slightly overclocked if done properly.
@@Deviczekliterally. The only reason to do custom loops nowadays is for the aesthetic
I wouldn't even attempt to try to build something with tubes like that ... its awesome.
So as to what you said in this video, I actually bought but a prebuild custom build because i wasn't confident. However I didn't get into your channel until afterwards, but since then, I've stripped my pc down to bare parts and rebuild it purely thanks of your videos. You're amazing and the way you walk thing through is great. I'll always recommend you to anyone in my situation.
Fans should be set based on coolant temp. Anything else doesn't make sense in a watercooled system
Agreed. That what I did then my 4u system was watercooled. I changed to air cooling because I didn't want to brother anymore, noctua cooler are awesome and my red devil 7900xrx is overbuilt, not thermal issue what's so ever. But my case fans are still tied to the sensor who check the temperature around the video card so they bloc harder when I game
Absolutly agree - it's kinda the point
17:42 You can actually use grafics card temperature as a source for fan profiling. In Armory Crate you can select up to three sources and the fans work according to the source that has the highest temperature. I, for example, have as sources the CPU, graphic card and VRM. I have custom fan profile and they ramp up based on the highest temperature from the three sources
they just need to put a coolant temp sensor in.. pick the water temp you want to maintain. ramp fans according to that temp. the coolant cools the system. the fans cool the coolant. i do this in my custom loops with no issues. much easier to set your positive pressure in the case too. lots of mobos have at least one thermal plug on them now.. often for aio stuff
@@xenodraken377Yes! Thats the way to do it...Using the water temp instead of the gpu temp keeps the fans from ramping up and down so much with the gpu load...It just smoothes it out and it will keep the cpu and the gpu happy...
I just built my own pc. I went with a amd build. Cpu amd 7950x gpu radeon 7900xtx. Total cost was 3300 bucks. I really wanted the msi godlike board but 1300 bucks for a mb was tough haha. I went with the Asus proart x670E-creator wifI board. No problems so far. Runs smooth.
Watching your videos helped me with my first build. Definitely more fun than a pre-built! Thank you for what you do
Yeah it sucks, coming home plugging in your new prebuilt and just playing games, so boring.
My latest build is almost exactly the same. I have a 5950x and an FE 3090ti, same rads, fans, and pump res combo. I used soft line and the back rad is supply air with top rad as exhaust. I added a rear exhaust fan as well. I use iQue software only and it works perfectly. With gameboost turned on and iQue in silent mode, cpu idles at 55c and gpu idles at 43c.
If you wanted to test their quality control you should have done exactly what Nexus did to see what the average Joe is getting, not an influencer.
I picked up the lazy susan you use and recommended a while back, Jay. It's been great to use, and the fact that it can handle about 200 lbs. means it can handle just about any system, monitor, or TV.
Jay you don't need Armory Crate to control the board lights, you can still get the standalone Aura Sync (RGB control only). It will then work with iCue, it even recognises my 4090 FE to allow me to sync the RGB top and bottom LEDs with iCue (it lists the GPU as an ASUS lol).
or he could try OpenRGB.
@@2MCDSI use this on Linux, works pretty well.
Needed a fast replacement PC so I went with one of Origins spicey builds. Came leaking fluid and immediately had to send it back. When it returned to me the next month or so later, the box was trashed but they had finally added enough padding that MOST of the build arrived undamaged. Had to buy a backup computer in the interim and have my carpets cleaned. But at least I paid an extra grand to have someone else build it for me. Great experience.
Uncensored video? Oh I like this!! Appreciate the hard work you and your team put into these videos Jay!
Hi Jay. A muffler/exhaust shop has a particular tube bender machine used to create custom exhaust pipes. One day, we'll be able to buy a smaller one for bending our tubing. It would work better than the bend gauges we have today. I built a heat gun holder to heat my tubing, ensuring my tubes are heated to the correct temperature. It's a straightforward DIY project.
I was just thinking that wouldn't it be easy just to have machine with plates to make the bends or something of the kind
As much as I love building pcs, I would never touch water cooling, especially hard tubing lol
Honestly, water cooling sucks. Getting it up and running for the first time is fun, but the maintenance is a huge annoyance and be prepared for any minor work you do inside your PC to become 10x for difficult. Ultimately, it's not worth it because extreme overclocking has little real-world benefit and there are some really high performing air cooling solutions out there.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 yeah 100% agreed… Maybe back in the day, it was worth it to fully water cool, but nowadays, AIOs and air cooling are enough luckily. Nor is there reason to overclock much.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 That's true what you said about watercooling but there is also: better noise and temps, sick aesthetic, DIY-ing and trying to make it all work, and it really gives you a sense of acomplishment. Also everyone will have something unique (unless you do an O11 dynamic lol). Also I don't know what you mean about maintenance.... just replace coolant once a year or two and maybe check the orings and you're good. If you design your loop properly it shouldn't be a pain.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 Honestly it doesn't have to be like that. Depends on your entire setup, case and coolant. I've been water cooling for probably well over 10 years, back in the beginning it was a bit of a pain because my loops were not as efficient as they should have been and I did not keep future upgrades etc in mind or place a drain in a perfect place.
If you're planning on upgrading a cpu or gpu in the next 6 - 12 months don't bother building a loop for it. I've got a 7900xtx on fans right now soon to be water cooled, I cant wait to get rid of the fans they're actually super loud. Also, watercooling a pc isnt for everyone and thats fine, most people ask me why I bother or whats the point? These people will never understand why.
To me building PC’s is a lot of fun and very rewarding. It’s really not that difficult, you have like 7-8 major components that you assemble together and that’s basically it.
If you are new to building PC’s don’t be intimidated and just take your time! It’s not a race, enjoy the process and sense of accomplishment once you finally have it altogether.
The feeling of having a PC that YOU built boot- up and run for the first is really satisfying :) Then running benchmarks to see how YOUR creation stacks up is really fun as well.
Once you’ve built your first PC this will give you confidence to perhaps eventually take it a step farther with a custom loop, etc.
Also, it’s nice to be able to help out friends / family.
Listening to you speak about the fan speed based on CPU or GPU temp made me wonder, is there any way to control the RPM based on the fluid temp ? If so is it a better solution ? Planning to go for a delided watercool for my next build
I could not agree more to that. I got an AIO from nzxt and there the pump speed is based on CPU temp where the fan speed on the rad is controlled by liquid temp. Why would a custom loop be different, right.
Yes. With a temp sensor in the loop and appropriate software you can. Aquacomputer's Aquasuite with either their Aquaero, Octo, or Quadro hardware controller is probably the most full featured and configurable fan control solution you can buy. You may also be able to do it with a Corsair Commander Pro, open source source software like Fan Control in combination with a temp sensor input on the motherboard, or whatever your motherboard's fan control software is and temp sensor input.
I'm always surprised that Jay never puts a temp sensor in his loops. Basing fan speed on the temperature of the water over the ambient temperature in the room is a better way to control fan speed in a watercooled computer than CPU or GPU temp. If only because fans will gradually ramp up if need be.
@@Gridlynk Exactly, this is how cars have worked for a fair while now, as far as i’m aware coolant temp is the only variable that will control the radiator fan
@@Gridlynk Thanks a lot for the precision and all the details, guess I'm gonna add some of these items in the final shopping cart. Seems like the most logical solution to me.
And you're right, I was questionning myself and among the couple techtuber I watch, I think I've never seen any of them actually doing a topic for that specific configuration
thanks for the vid guys. soon as the pc lights come on i was in awe
The best foot forward comes down to somebody who has pull in the community that pushes what they built. Being Joe Snuffy shows their actual standards.
It's actually pointless and proves nothing reviewing a pc they knowingly sent to a guy with 4m youtube subs.
@@zaksuzuki Exactly, this is ridiculous from Jay.
The hard-tubing of this Origin PC is a masterpiece!! Really cool 😮👌🤟👍!!
Ready for a one-on-one comparison between intake and exhaust fans :)
If you want a PC in a crate. Build the computer yourself then put it in a crate. Much cheaper.
They get their value by getting Linus to do a review. Keep striving for perfection
I'm really confused why Jay of all people would be talking about running fans based on the GPU temps on a water cooled system. You always run the fans based on the water's temps. The fans cool the water, which in turn cools the components.Running the fans based on components, you're almost always going to have the fans spinning way faster, and louder, than they need to be. Only when the water hits heat saturation would the fans be at a sensible speed. Also, Corsair recommends all exhaust for those cases. They get better temps that way, so you're not really "agreeing to disagree". They actually have testing to base their opinion on.
10:51
i don't have any problems with negative pressure setups, i prefer them.
cause you can always slap a mesh magnetic filter over the "intakes"
but also i'd rather have "natural" intake, than like a forced intake, that would cause dust buildup wherever the intake dumps (you know like under a cpu cooler on the MB where the dust/air is forced packed)
with natural air intake, it'll be more dust in general, but at least it won't be packed in there, like it would be with an "intake" fan
Building yourself is one thing, building custom loop with hardline is whole other beast.
I watch a lot of PC videos and you are by far the BEST out there. Informative, smart, and funny. What is there not to like. Thank you.
The tubing run was basically OriginPC asking Jay, "How much hard-line tubing do you want in this system?" and Jay's just like, "YES".
Been very happy with my OriginPC. 13900k and 4090 for $3.8K. Only delivery issue was loose 24pin. That said, free accessory audio/streaming bundle took over a month to ship and took multiple calls/emails to resolve.
I agree about the fan direction. A pressurized case has more air molecules available to communicate heat away from components. A negative pressure has fewer molecules...it's that simple. Not to mention the unfiltered dust and pet fur being sucked in from every crevice. Hard to believe they did that.
I bought a PC from origin for just over 9k. Water cooled loop. The whole nine. They put the intake fans on the top of the PC and the exhaust fans on the back. I've built plenty of PCs but wanted something nicer. Never again.
it just warms my heart when jay goes on a little rant.
Can confirm the title, received a computer in a crate back in December 2013 from a company called "Valve". Was a great computer, really compact and functional for its day.
They mount all fans to exhaust because it looks better. You said it, Jay. Image is everything.
One of the greatest lines from Jay: 'Everything is pokey!' lol
Credit where it's due that tubing is really nicely done.
I agree with Jay that having all Exhaust fans is a terrible idea because there is not enough fresh cool air getting into the PC. I also prefer front intake fans and having it exhaust out the back and on top.
I am running a similar gig but not with negative pressure but with air going through the proper filtration and channels.
Corsair 7000D (suspiciously identical to this case), 3x140mm fans front for intake with a 420 radiator, 3x140mm fans top with a 420 radiator +1x140mm rear for exhausts + XD7 reservoir at the side where the fans of this system are. (Case requires minor modding to fit the XD7 there even tho they are both corsair products but i had to, in order to have the airflow front to top)
a) Mine is not a mess of tubing b ) it actually has airflow compared to this c) you can remove the RAM if you want to, d) used to have a 1080 TI in the loop and it was on a PCIe extender so if there are any drops from the CPU nozzles ever, they won't drop on the GPU, but upgrading to a 3080 recently, decided to not add it in the loop yet (warranty related).
all ♥J!
2:35 pretty much sums up the emotions we feel whenever we sense we bouta fuck up something with out compooter.
I've retired and so funds aren't anywhere near what they used to be so builds like this are just pipe dreams for me , I'm running an i7 9700k with an Asus Rog Strix 3070ti oc and 32gb of ddr4 3200mhz Ram on an Aorus pro MB . This will have to last me until I go to PC gaming Heaven ....
That thumbnail is pure gold!
Argus Monitor can solve all problems with controling fan. I use it for years. Can be used with multi parametars.
HWMonitor is such a great tool for solving heat-related issues. It helped to solve why my old 2600X kept randomly shutting down - it was overheating with the stock cooler. Replaced the cooler with a be Quiet! Shadow Rock 3 and no more issues. Still using the same cooler on my 3700X now.
Glad your GPU is installed straight. Mine is sloped (not parallel to the PCI slot).
If you want a quiet, low-maintenance, high-performance system, do this: No water cooling nonsense, use really good air coolers like NH-D15, very good airflow case, NO dust filters, and all fans on FIXED speed. Yes, all fans at the same speed all the time (except GPU), and seal every crack and hole in the case that’s not explicitly part of the intended airflow path, using vinyl adhesive sheets (Amazon). If you do everything I outlined, the case fans at low silent speed will be PLENTY when your game is at full-throttle. Now you have an ultra-quiet system. And no water-cooling nonsense to fuss around with next time you want to upgrade components.
Jay, Nick and Phil, your always so solid and honest. Its why ive always been here for 8 plus years. Simply Thank you.
Um no, if that was the case they wouldn’t have noticed Origin that the Pc was for JayzTwoCents. Low I.Q’s in he comments lol.
I have 2 origin products... first computer probably 4 years ago. Amazing experience, rma process. They did a honest 5 star experience for me. So I bought my son one for Christmas last year... 3 month rma for A dead screen... multiple day response times. They forgot to install the control center TWICE. Once when it was new and a second after they had to replace the panel. Both times I had to install me self. Which makes me sad since they have good products. But after they got bought out... after my last experience,I think I'll have to try another company for my laptops.
Jay loves that spin 360 plate.
I remember the old voodoo pc’s that came in wooden crates one of the best presentations
BEST for crates.
Bottom, Ends, Sides, Top.
Don't matter what's in it, build it right.
Last two machines I bought was the Microcenter Brand. All common components, no fuss, nice cases, etc. and price is really fair. Highly recommend them.
Steve: why would you waste money on a wooden crate?
Jay: crate :O
I gave up trying to get iCue to work with my ASRock MB, Asus 4090, etc. I just bit the bullet and moved to SignalRGB. The free version does everything I need and just works.
makes me sad bc I feel like if someone ordered the exact same PC i have a feeling they wouldnt go as far for looks in the tubing like they did for J:(
RTX 4090 with out a right angle power adapter -100 points, using a QLC NAND based Storage SSD -50 points, Confusing Jay with the tubing runs - Priceless.
This time UPS don`t leave "stamp".
On my computer, Icue sees temp rtx 4080 and I control the fans via commander pro.
This is the one time where you can appreciate the tube not being straight. Just angle it off as a feature and not a bug.