What did Alphacool do here? Water Block Roundup 2023

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @DerangedCoconut808
    @DerangedCoconut808 Год назад +19

    I always find EK to be the SnapOn of the watercooling industry. Big money for identical or comparable performance to lower priced products. you are mostly paying for the name just like SnapOn or Matco tools. (old mechanic here, thats the closest analogy i can relate to)

    • @garrettmancuso4417
      @garrettmancuso4417 9 дней назад

      I used laugh at the guys who would run out to the snap on truck like kids to an ice cream truck.

  • @LawrenceTimme
    @LawrenceTimme Год назад +202

    It would be interesting to test older water block generations to see the progress. I still use my ek supremacy evo

    • @olivierwolphjoseph2329
      @olivierwolphjoseph2329 Год назад +2

      Currently using a Ek Phoenix 😅😎

    • @bchurch19
      @bchurch19 Год назад +10

      I only replaced my 15 year old EK Supreme HF recently 😂

    • @sumtingwong665
      @sumtingwong665 Год назад +6

      Using the same block as well!

    • @Tealc2323
      @Tealc2323 Год назад +7

      I use EK-Supremacy EVO too and I wish to know if it's worth upgrading.

    • @spaghettilocomotive
      @spaghettilocomotive Год назад +3

      I recently swapped out my Supremacy Evo for the new velocity2+direct die conversion kit for my 12900k, but the block or direct die part was pure garbage, the old supremacy evo cooled better than after delidding and liquid metal. Safe to say I wish I could turn back time and just keep it stock with the old block.

  • @wudruffwildcard252
    @wudruffwildcard252 Год назад +76

    EKs answer totally confirmed what I believe what EK does with every product. EK doesn‘t aspire to be the best, their business model is to be the first. Because they know enthusiasts who are the early adopters buy the first available water cooler!

    • @96kylar
      @96kylar Год назад +1

      They also will swap for the best

    • @Jeff.55649
      @Jeff.55649 Год назад +5

      1-2 c difference between all blocks, lmao. Doesn't matter what block you buy. But haters gonna hate!

    • @pcodyssey41
      @pcodyssey41 Год назад +18

      @@Jeff.55649 1-2c worse for a $250 block vs a $50 block, simps gonna simp.

    • @Jeff.55649
      @Jeff.55649 Год назад +1

      @@pcodyssey41 haha someone's mad cuz I'm right, lmao

    • @pcodyssey41
      @pcodyssey41 Год назад +11

      @@Jeff.55649 you're right that EK's $250 block performs within 1-2c of a $50 Chinese competitor, still trying to figure out why you're bragging about that.

  • @arkratos3727
    @arkratos3727 Год назад +8

    Thank you so much for doing a round up like this. I remember the radiator round up about 10 years ago and that was super helpful for the community. Hope to see more coverage like this and hopefully every few years or so. Thank you again!

  • @-opus
    @-opus Год назад +74

    Billet Labs definitely should have contacted you instead

    • @ayah922
      @ayah922 Год назад +13

      @der8auer EN Pleassse do it. I know in a vacuum choosing LTT was the right business decision (assuming they wouldn't mistest it and slander it) but I would love to see Roman's opinion as an engineer. Neither Steve from GN, Jayz2cents, or any other youtube have the machining experience Roman has and that should be one of the main things to be evaluated. Aesthetic finish, fluid dynamics, craftsmanship, performance, and value. I have no clue what gives Linus the right to say it's overpriced when he knows nothing about labor and materials costs in Europe. Roman has first hand experience running a machine shop and would have the best opinion in the tech space on whether the product is priced competitively in an objective sense. I know it will never have 'value' when it's competitors have 1/8 the price, but what manufacturing costs are all things considered and what the profit margins likely are. If I can pay my local machine shop to make the same/similar for me at a more competitive price then they might have a problem.

    • @Morrigan_DeDesarux
      @Morrigan_DeDesarux Год назад +1

      Agreed. Although, as unfortunate as the situation was, it brought a lot of things to the surface along with the Lab's jabs at HUB and GN regarding data collection stuff.

    • @B3n85_
      @B3n85_ 11 месяцев назад

      I which Heatkiller made Ram blocks

  • @a5cent
    @a5cent Год назад +42

    Why this dude doesn't have a million subscribers in beyond me. IMHO the best tech channel on YT.

    • @hokiturmix
      @hokiturmix Год назад

      Aron Ra-'s videos about atheist rants have millions of views.. About biology is just a fraction of that.

    • @marinipersonal
      @marinipersonal Год назад +4

      Because, sadly, most people prefer shallow goofy approach. The laziness to learn and think. Is a long curve, but worth, given the willingness and time required. But as I’ve mentioned earlier, a goofy dropping a 2k dollars GPU is funny for some.

    • @kidShibuya
      @kidShibuya Год назад +4

      Because other tech channels would take this result and make the thumb EK IS RIPPING YOU OFF! Then rant rant rant in the video till the fanboys are all fired up. Nobody is really interested in facts, just drama.

    • @ItalianMetalHED
      @ItalianMetalHED Год назад +5

      @@marinipersonal linus tech tips channel is proof of this! gamers nexus should have 15mil given his attention to detail and proper lab testing like debaur. Linus is quirky and annoying and people are drawn to his antics. I found him annoying.

  • @aigarius
    @aigarius Год назад +4

    You didn't mention the killer feature of the Alphacool Core line - the G1/4" threads are **metal**!

  • @suff528
    @suff528 Год назад +11

    Great video! I would love to see the same type of video about radiators.

  • @GS0CK6
    @GS0CK6 Год назад +53

    Amazing video. Finally someone made the test. And thanks for confirming to me that the Heatkiller is basically the best block and only at 80 euro. Im done with EKWB and this video confirms it. Also can you mind telling me what quick connect fittings you use? thanks.

    • @marinipersonal
      @marinipersonal Год назад +7

      EK is not too bad. Performance average, design is good, but is waaaaaay overpriced, also quality control is poor. Shipping active backplate with longer screws that wouldn’t fit as desired, cracking the bridge between the blocks (stress), distro with over tighten or not tighten enough, same issue for GPU blocks. Let’s not forget the DOA RGB strips or the flipped jet plates. Apart from that, is fine. 😂

    • @luckerNo01
      @luckerNo01 Год назад

      Im interested in those quick connect fittings too! What are those?

    • @someusername121
      @someusername121 Год назад +2

      Ek has been shit for 10 years but they sponsor RUclipsrs so kids who are new and don’t know better think they’re good.

    • @undefwun2135
      @undefwun2135 Год назад

      Great news on the Heatkillers. I just found a local (Aussie) shop that has these in. Hoping to upgrade my now aging (6.5) years system and pretty much an almost full Watercool components loop (res, cpu, gpu, rads) on my wish list spreadsheet.

    • @CoRy35744
      @CoRy35744 Год назад

      The fittings look like Koolance QD3

  • @kristianschlosser7108
    @kristianschlosser7108 Год назад +2

    derbauer on the velocity2 mounting: "really simple". Jayztwocents: *immediately breaks it* :D

  • @kevinh5024
    @kevinh5024 Год назад +1

    Im always amazed by the quality of your testing videos. Very informative and educational. You are great teacher. Thanks for posting.

  • @SWEJmeister
    @SWEJmeister Год назад +5

    Thank you for the roundup! Interesting results. I'm using the full nickel Heatkiller in my AM5 build, love the look and build quality.

  • @dallebull
    @dallebull Год назад +2

    Lol EK, Such a company answer: "You had something NON STOCK? Well in that case it's that thing's fault, if you tested it in a normal system it wouldnt be an issue!!!"

  • @heslo8767
    @heslo8767 Год назад +13

    Great content as ever mate! Would be awesome if you could do a direct die comparison at some stage too

  • @Hito343
    @Hito343 Год назад +2

    Awesome video. Really appreciate the time that went into it.

  • @benitoabreu4785
    @benitoabreu4785 Год назад

    Wow! Good stuff, brother! You really know your work. I'm glad I found your channel. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @arturperzyna5453
    @arturperzyna5453 Месяц назад

    I really enjoyed the video! Lots of interesting fresh info.

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu 6 месяцев назад

    I love getting all the extra manufacturing infos on the various blocks.

  • @the-wert
    @the-wert Год назад +1

    12:20 - theoretically you could restore lost performance of coldplate created by such technology by recrystallization. You could test what difference (if any) would this make - just place it in oven with protective atmosphere at 400°C for a few hours.

  • @floodo1
    @floodo1 Год назад +1

    Quite interesting. Good to know that the performance of high end blocks is so close

  • @kleinwood9297
    @kleinwood9297 Год назад

    3:00 Funny thing, my D5 runs quietest above 80% and is quite loud below 30% (something to do with mounting and dynamic balance I guess)

  • @rekareaper
    @rekareaper Год назад +20

    I really wish you would test with higher pump speeds as well. I understand why you don’t, but it would be interesting to see the differences.

    • @GhostPsi69
      @GhostPsi69 Год назад +2

      Theoretical performance vs actual real life performance, also doing max pump speed would allow manafacturers to cheat on flowrate in the blocks.

    • @rekareaper
      @rekareaper Год назад +1

      @@GhostPsi69 it is actual real life performance for me. I have two loops that I sometimes combine. Each is a MORA3 with an EK Dual D5 pump top that all run at 100%. It isn’t cheating on flowrate to have a block designed for high pressure and high flow, as that’s how you’re going to get the best heat dissipation.

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 Год назад +3

      I run my pump 100% all of the time. My computer sits a good distance from me and I can't hear it at all. I've never not run a pump at 100%.

    • @fermitupoupon1754
      @fermitupoupon1754 Год назад +1

      @@GhostPsi69 how is it cheating though? I mean I vary my pump speed because I want to achieve a certain dT across the radiator, but other than that I see no real reason to do so. If you mount a D5 properly, you're not going to hear it, regardless of pump RPM.
      My old D5 didn't even have speed control at all, it always ran at full speed. As long as you keep the same pump speed between different blocks in the test, it effectively shouldn't matter what speed your pump is running. Unless a specific block is really designed for slow flow, but then again why would it be, as that just isn't the efficient way to go about it.

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms Год назад

    Very good point, always good to look at multiple test results, from multiple sources. Especially if you are going to be purchasing that item.

  • @azadipti4499
    @azadipti4499 Год назад +2

    Great technical insight and content

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 Год назад

    Such a great round up. That Alphacool block is… surprisingly great & basic.

  • @ronnie8274
    @ronnie8274 Год назад

    Roman, thank you for the testing information. This really helped me understand more about these types of coolers. I know what to look for and what to do because of your hard work. Thanks again for all that you do.
    Ronnie.

  • @roberthelcher2884
    @roberthelcher2884 Год назад

    Great information. I wished I had this information two weeks ago. My loop is complete. Thanks for taking the time to create this content.

  • @malphadour
    @malphadour Год назад +2

    Wonder if EK will finally sort out the pricing of the stupidly overpriced magnitude. It barely outperforms a Supremacy for more than twice the price. Glad Roman highlighted how poor value they are, and also that the build quality isn't great either. EK are 100% not the company they were 6 or 7 years ago and trade an awful lot off a reputation that is not deserved these days.

  • @orgolove
    @orgolove Год назад +1

    Awesome review - very systematic.

  • @jeremytine
    @jeremytine Год назад

    this and techpowerup convinced me to buy the core 1, perfect timing. Thanks.

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 Год назад +3

    Damn, i wish this was available when i was building my AM5 rig...i bought the EK Velocity 2. Im using the very good Alphacool Eisblock for my 4090 which has performed much better than i expected.

  • @skaikey
    @skaikey Год назад

    This was very good, thank you.

  • @Kulaan
    @Kulaan Год назад

    I like how you explained how people should watch multiple points of view before making a decision! Watched and respected your thoughts for a long time. I know very little German and I honestly started watching you because it was in German. And you tell the truth as you see it.

  • @thorgen_ironside5279
    @thorgen_ironside5279 Год назад

    Great video, that Alphacool block did perform well.

  • @philliumo
    @philliumo Год назад +6

    It'd be cool to see another one of these roundups with more small name blocks, like Optimus PC. They make some bold claims about their performance.

  •  Год назад

    Well done, explained ser gut. Very useful data for interested costumers.

  • @paulclarkson2583
    @paulclarkson2583 Год назад

    Great video, Love the details

  • @BleepBlop-rh9lm
    @BleepBlop-rh9lm Год назад

    Happy owner of Watercool Heatkiller :)
    Ordered directly from Germany all my watercooling components from them.

  • @meppie1922
    @meppie1922 Год назад

    Finally some news from water cooling perspective. Nice vid as always man🤙

  • @philth7587
    @philth7587 Год назад +3

    Nice video. I bought one of the Alphacool Core 1s off the back of positive reviews, and because I liked the look of it. It replaced an EK Quantum Velocity block. The RGB, although I'm not normally a fan, looks great. Performs well, too, keeping a 7800X3D below 80 degrees with a 35 degree or so water temp.

    • @Div617
      @Div617 Год назад

      Is this with CB23 runs or just gaming?

    • @philth7587
      @philth7587 Год назад

      @@Div617 Sorry, had meant to say, CB23

  • @doctordonutdude
    @doctordonutdude Год назад

    This was fantastic! I'd love to see me testing like this that gives super accurate, comparative results for us to know not only what to buy, but how what we've bought should be performing.

  • @necronix9947
    @necronix9947 6 месяцев назад

    The Barrow blocks have an add on RGB controller that plugs onto that 3 pin rgb header , there also a converter cable that changes it to a normal RGB header.

  • @timothynolan7250
    @timothynolan7250 Год назад

    Great work! Love it!!!!

  • @alexanderm2702
    @alexanderm2702 Год назад +2

    I would like to see a test with a vapor chamber between the CPU and the block. I've looked into doing it myself but the power rating on the ones that would fit seem to max out at 150W.
    My theory on why the Alphacool block is so good: the sideways slots offer an easier path to get rid of water that has already contacted copper and warmed up. That allows higher flow rate of fresh cool water. It also creates turbulence in the water and also creates a bit more surface area.

  • @xhayame
    @xhayame Год назад

    Thanks for the wonderful testing. I have two projects going on and I actually have both the barrow AND alphacool block that was in this video and it's kinda cool being able to see how both compare.

  • @mexicanhalloween
    @mexicanhalloween Год назад

    never been disappointed by alphacool, they're my first choice whenever I need any watercooling bits

  • @leeross7896
    @leeross7896 Год назад

    Awesome as always!

  • @Gary_HTX
    @Gary_HTX Год назад +13

    Refreshing to see some proper testing again.

  • @taiiat0
    @taiiat0 Год назад

    i really like the Mounting type of double ended Screwing a Backplate to the Board and then Thumbscrew the Block onto that. it's easy to install/remove, the Backplate doesn't fall off when you take off the Cooler, Et Cetera.
    it's just the easiest to use IMO. as long as the double ended Screws are large enough to operate with your Fingers, that is.

  • @supernova874
    @supernova874 Год назад

    Awesome work and detail on it and thank you for your time , I'm definitely Add alphacool core 1 and watercool Heatkiller IV to my next upgrade blocks :😀

  • @Gregregorovich
    @Gregregorovich Год назад

    That Barrow RGB header is compatible with standard 5V ARGB, if you make (or buy, if they exist) an adapter; looking along the wire (with the wire closer to your eye than the connector), with the pins at the bottom of the plug with the snapped/cut off plastic tabs below it, it maps to left to right 5V, Data, (no gap), Ground.

  • @jirismidak2001
    @jirismidak2001 9 месяцев назад

    Hello, IT? Well, I actually own the Alphacool CORE 1 block, it sits on 14th Gen i9 in Z790 motherboad. And all I can say is, its awsome! It really is! It performs great, keeping the CPU around 60C when playing MSFS2020, which is the most demanding application I am currently using. To be fair, I must say that there is also an Alphacool GPU block on a 3090. And I have a very custom loop with 2 huge 40mm 360 radiators with legendary German Noiseblocker FANs and almost 4 liters of water in the whole loop, pumped with DDC 1T Plus pump. So, plenty of liquid + plenty of cooling capacity = cool and quite components. Great video as usual! Thank you!

  • @gonzalovega8021
    @gonzalovega8021 Год назад +1

    Barrow is almost Identical to the first EK-Supremacy, i have both and i can swap tops and mounting plates.

    • @Born_Stellar
      @Born_Stellar Год назад

      with the chinese brands you can almost always tell what company they copied from. thats good to know in case I need more parts though, lol.

  • @waynemacleod3416
    @waynemacleod3416 Год назад

    the ARGB connector on the barrow is from commercial or DIY. I have 3 controllers and lights with that conector. you can get a adapter for the motherboard connector if you dont want to rewire.

  • @RTKizzzle
    @RTKizzzle Год назад

    I think the most important part of this video is at 10:36 when the kitty shows up just to let you know that this video was worth it.

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend 5 месяцев назад

    I just switched from EK to a Heatkiller block for my x570/5900X, and it was used. I had to take it apart, and clean it but it dropped my temps by nearly 10c compared to the EK. Increased clocks on all cores, breaking the 5Ghz barrier I had before, to 5.12Ghz, and near or over 5 on every other core. It's sharing a single 240mm x 60mm rad with a 3090.

  • @scottcondie1363
    @scottcondie1363 Год назад +1

    The core 1 looks great and performs very well. I still use an alphacool nexxos xp that I modified to fit my 10850K but its tempting to upgrade. It would be nice to have good mounting pressure as my mounting bracket has a single bolt that presses down in the centre of the block.

  • @tbrayden3694
    @tbrayden3694 Год назад

    Great video Roman. Now we need a radiator roundup 😀

  • @1984TarpeN
    @1984TarpeN Год назад +1

    Really nice videos to watch, I just bought an AMD 7900x3d and bought myself a Corsair Hydro X Series XC8 RGB PRO JTC Edition because it was so much cheaper than buying an EK block. and am really happy with the result. Corsair $110 vs EK $220 😃

  • @nathanielbecker9227
    @nathanielbecker9227 Год назад +1

    DerBauer, when checking mirror finishes on your waterblocks, use a TV sharpness Test! Then you can see exactly how the waterblock is shaped.

  • @Laurin1179
    @Laurin1179 Год назад

    Very good Video! Thank you

  • @Cinnabuns2009
    @Cinnabuns2009 Год назад +1

    I went with HeatKiller IV because it has a bracket that I (as a machinist) can change out and make to fit any hole pattern on any board. Also, it doesn't need mounted offset because the inlet is toward the chiplet side on AMD so the chiplets get the cold side and the SOC gets the outlet. Very nice feature.

    • @96kylar
      @96kylar Год назад

      Agree. And did the same. The heat killer block is wicked legit

    • @AndrewB23
      @AndrewB23 Год назад

      As a "machinist" you should be able to do most of these brackets bud

    • @MyJapaneseLife
      @MyJapaneseLife 10 месяцев назад

      And how can it help with that?

  • @sergeys2505
    @sergeys2505 Год назад

    Fantastic job, man 👍

  • @noxious89123
    @noxious89123 Год назад

    8:51 The Heatkiller IV is NOT available with RGB! I'd love it if it was, or if I could add RGB to my existing Heatkiller IV Pro, but there is currently no option for this.

  • @Gobbbbb
    @Gobbbbb Год назад

    Would just like to say thank you for making English videos in addition to the German ones, it really is appreciated and I hope one day to learn German.

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer Год назад

    I was told "a while ago" by one notorious tech youtuber famous for its water cooling builds that there was no reason to review custom liquid cooler parts for their performance and a sponsored build was a perfect way to show of the parts.
    A medium one that used science in his handle also told me hey people build custom water for the way they look, no performance review is necessary.
    I guess corsair is a big sponsor and a performance review of underperforming parts is always unnecessary.
    BTW
    Thanks for the review and for actually testing the parts!

  • @robmasters3569
    @robmasters3569 Год назад +1

    I would have liked to see one of the Optimus blocks included in these comparisons due to the bold claims on their website about how much better the cooling is with one of their blocks compared to the rest (un-named) of the blocks on the market

  • @chris746568462
    @chris746568462 Год назад

    6:39 That alone shows why direct die is the way forward.
    If you took a scythed design and used EDM to make it i wonder if there would be a difference in temperature.

  • @Olaipai
    @Olaipai Год назад +12

    Would be interesting to throw in and compare OptimusPC's water blocks. I've personally found them to perform noticeably better compared to other blocks I've used (EK, Barrows, AquaComp).
    Great video!

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 Год назад +3

      The reality is once you're near the top, you will see maybe 1-2 degree differences.

    • @hovant6666
      @hovant6666 Год назад +1

      If you feel like paying double for one degree better temperatures and waiting a year to receive it then by all means knock yourself out

    • @Olaipai
      @Olaipai Год назад

      @@hovant6666 I paid less for a Optimus block than I would for a EK block. And it arrived 4 days later. Had some weird screws in the block. 2 days later a brand new block was sent out. So I got 2 AMD Optimus blocks. 1 copper, 1 nickel. Was so pleased with it that I ordered their strix block as well. Took a bit longer, 2 weeks. Great blocks.
      Tbh, 1-3C different between just blocks is impressive. That is not an easy feat.

  • @420bobby69
    @420bobby69 Год назад +4

    I recognize that pink paste! Looks like the Kryonaut Extreme I put on after installing your contact frame in an attempt to make my 360mm AIO able to cool my 13900k. It helped a bit, but I'm starting to think it's impossible to actually cool that chip. Lol.

    • @GRCDriver23
      @GRCDriver23 Год назад

      time to try undervolting

    • @bluegizmo1983
      @bluegizmo1983 Год назад

      I'm running a cheap 360 AIO and it keeps my 13900K from thermal throttling. I hit a max temp in the upper 80's at all stock settings, just undervolted, which doesn't lose any performance, it actually gained performance vs not undervolting.

    • @420bobby69
      @420bobby69 Год назад +1

      @@bluegizmo1983 funny you mention that, undervolting dawned on me last night as a pretty obvious thing to do. how far did you push the negative offset on yours?

    • @bluegizmo1983
      @bluegizmo1983 Год назад

      @bobbyp6592 I didn't use a negative voltage offset, as I followed a guide that talks about how its better these days with modern CPU's to use Load Line Calibration to achieve an undervolt. Google "Asus Maximus Z790 Extreme and Intel i9-13900k - A tuning guide for beginners." It's a long interesting read about why this way is better, but to jump right to the information, you want the second post, then scroll down to "So let's start tuning the beast !". Basically it amounts to setting the DC_LL = 1.02 and
      AC_LL = 0.2, that's it, it's undervolted. You can fine tune it more from there but as it says in the forum post, those numbers should be stable for just about all 13900K's

    • @420bobby69
      @420bobby69 Год назад

      @@bluegizmo1983 LOL dude im literally reading guides about Load Line Calibration right now wondering if that's a way to optimize the undervolt for stability. I remembered der8auer explaining that setting in his 8700k OC video years ago, and how it affected the way the CPU handles 'voltage droops' or something. You have incredible timing, checking that out now. Thanks.

  • @jeremymcguire7069
    @jeremymcguire7069 Год назад

    I wonder if annealing the copper block after skiving the fins would improve the thermal transfer. If so, it might end up being better overall and faster to produce than finely machined fins.

  • @argusx77
    @argusx77 Год назад

    Great video

  • @СусаннаСергеевна

    My favourite block is the Barrow CPU-pump-reservoir combo. Elegant way to fit watercooling into SFF.
    I’ve also asked why they use a fan cable for their LEDs. The answer, it seems, is simply “it’s a better connector”. Which is true, anything would be better than the actual LED connector, but it feels like it’s only an excuse to sell adapter cables.

  • @sabishiihito
    @sabishiihito Год назад +2

    The Corsair blocks should come with an adapter to standard A-RGB in the box, at least the one I got did.

    • @helljester8097
      @helljester8097 Год назад

      Yeah same here they’ve been including more and more of these adapters with hydro X products.

    • @ThunderingRoar
      @ThunderingRoar Год назад

      i ll rather just avoid all corsair rgb products instead

  • @robertbrundige3998
    @robertbrundige3998 Год назад

    Excellent review. Very surprised by EK's performance. I am going to have to reevaluate my cooling decisions. Thank you

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick Год назад

    G'day Shiek, Makita & Roman,
    How my brain interpreted Shiek at 13:37 "🧑Simply because of the price...€250" "🐱What The!" 😂
    Thanks for including the Science behind manufacturing the Fins (that HUGE Skiver making Fins) & Nickel Coating, understanding the difference between them & the finish they give is very interesting.

  • @Foxx_69
    @Foxx_69 Год назад

    Think. Im going to try a cpuwater
    Loop cooling solution. Really like the look of the heat killer block

  • @SweetJesus16
    @SweetJesus16 Год назад +2

    I was praying that the overpriced ek block would perform worse than the 2.5x cheaper blocks

  • @SimonSays-
    @SimonSays- Год назад

    Never knew there was so much temp variance between different brands of waterblocks

  • @ayankga
    @ayankga Год назад

    Thank you roman!!

  • @tiggerlator
    @tiggerlator Год назад

    Just fitted a core 1 aurora to my loop

  • @bloodybucket213
    @bloodybucket213 Год назад +1

    Question for the material science portion:
    Would post-scything annealing correct at least some of that 10 to 20 percent loss of conductivity?

  • @seitenryu6844
    @seitenryu6844 Год назад +4

    Would like to see an Optimus block. Not many channels talk about them.

    • @tomaspalkovic242
      @tomaspalkovic242 Год назад

      yes i second this

    • @jake..A
      @jake..A Год назад

      The alphacool core 1 is the best cpu block currently on the market, better than the optimus. I am currently using the core 1 upgraded from the sigv2 & also previously used heatkiller iv pro & ek magnitude & velocity 2 and the core 1 is the best.

    • @Simon_Denmark
      @Simon_Denmark Год назад +1

      Maybe because their market is almost completely in the US.

  • @gerardfraser
    @gerardfraser Год назад

    thanks for sharing

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard Год назад +1

    thank you for discussing testing procedures and set ups in reference to the end result.
    just because i have all the exact same components does not mean i will get the exact same results as you, even if i built the system exactly the same way as you. electronics are all built within tolerances. nothing is exactly the same at this consumer level of electrical computing components.

  • @Shark00n1337
    @Shark00n1337 Год назад +2

    Great and informative vid as usual!
    Was the retail Core 1 also suffering from the same plating issues as your engineering part? Ty

  • @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
    @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt Год назад +1

    Amazing content once again Roman so thank you very much for your hard work on this. I know there will be a million people saying 'oh can you add this' but I would like to make it a million and one! Something I think that would be invaluable to know would be where abouts are AIO in all this, so if you used the exact test bench and threw on the best AIO cooler, how much of a delta would there be between these and the dedicated blocks. Cheers.

  • @war4peace1979
    @war4peace1979 Год назад

    I would love to see a comparison between Acryl version and full copper version of both Aquacompter and Heatkiller blocks.
    I plan to buy a Heatkiller IV full copper for my upcoming build.

  • @joekashula7687
    @joekashula7687 Год назад

    As always, excellent video. If you plan to do more testing Optimus Signature V2 is a must.

  • @davidl8523
    @davidl8523 Год назад

    @ 5:45, The 28C bios temp seems to be quite accurate. I think you meant it doesn't have the resolution you want.

  • @meomeo9392
    @meomeo9392 Год назад

    Another thing to consider is the wear and tear, durability of the nickel coating and also the acrylic part. These block are not cheap so the durability needs more attention

  • @mikeoleksa
    @mikeoleksa 7 месяцев назад

    I have an Alphacool Aurora Edge XPX CPU block that performs really well, but it is really restrictive. It's to the point that you couldn't see any flow of the coolant in the loop. Not in the Reservoir, block, or stand alone pump with a clear top. If it wasn't for an Aquacomputer NEXT inline flow meter/temp sensor that I have installed, I would wonder if my D5 pump was even working. It's the only block that I've used that is like that. All the other blocks, I definitely know everything is flowing because of the turbulence in the reservoir.

  • @mfdoom7123
    @mfdoom7123 Год назад +2

    What about flow rate of blocks and maybe try am5 where main Die is not in center ??

  • @1mouse3
    @1mouse3 Год назад

    This is a nice test you have going and would add a few blocks you could test as well. These would be the optimus foundation and the old xspc raystorm waterblack, this the raystorm with acrylic frame and I got a metal one to use instead. I got the raystorm 280 kit with a x79 board, do to fluid in the res falling below half and barfing its fluid. I have have been using it for some year, with a d5 aalpacool eisstation instead. Im moving all that to server duty and got a x299 board to replace it, going to used use a 7th gen chip and your direct die kit. I understand this x299 will have a lot more heat to deal with overclocking, so went the optimus block as a possilbe upgrade since is cnc cut.

  • @Jemmy350
    @Jemmy350 Год назад

    Would love to see how the modultra coldplate preforms, but it is only in a pumpblock combo.

  • @St0RM33
    @St0RM33 Год назад +1

    5:09 it's ARGB with the wrong connector that's why they modified it to fit some chinese argb hubs

  • @gerthddyn
    @gerthddyn Год назад

    This is why everyone should look more at comparison reviews. I've never found EK to be particularly good despite so many people being their fanboys. I got a heatkiller IV, because of availability when I was purchasing.

  • @Hagop64
    @Hagop64 Год назад +3

    Do these blocks have a specified flow rate or pump pressure given? You mentioned you tested them at 30% so I wonder if different blocks could be affected by this or if they were optimized to cool at a certain flow rate. It would have been interesting to see the comparison between 30% and 100% to see if all that extra noise is worth it or if there is a block that sees a non-proportional change in performance (ie at 30% it was 5th in performance compared to others but at 100% it was 1st.)

    • @arthurmoore9488
      @arthurmoore9488 Год назад +1

      This is the disadvantage to standardized testing. Not that the results are "wrong", but A - B testing when components are optimized for certain conditions means a poor performer optimized for the exact test will do good even compared to the good ones that work across a broader range.
      Interestingly, this also applies to vehicle emissions. If you don't drive your car the same way the emissions tests are designed then it is often allowed to produce far more pollution than you'd think!

  • @NINEWALKING
    @NINEWALKING Год назад

    When the video started, I thought Roman was testing my block as well. Packaging had a similar picture on it. I am a bit creature of habit. When some company gets me with their good performance, I stay with them until they eventually disappoint me. Currently, I still buy EK products, and they serve me well. My cyrrent CPU block is EK Quantum Velocity2 1700 full nickel. When 12900K came out with a new 1700 socket, I had to get a new water block. This mounting system and cleanness of the install both me. There is nothing to see from the top. You see, just a beautiful water block that looks like bonded to the mainboard. Knowing that most of the top brands' blocks perform very similar and with my giid experience with the EK, I've went for it. I do not own any other 1700 socket water block to compare it with, but my CPU Temps are great. It really depends on what you configure in the bios, to be honest. If I configure full tilt and allow CPU to pull all it wants, it is pulling over 300 Watts in the Prime95 small FFT, and it reaches thermal cap off 100 and then runs on 98 to 99 degrees. Load line calibration mode 2 archives same benchmark results, but Prime95 small FFT pull 260-ish Watt. That results in 80-ies temperature. Whoever thinks that's high, get Prime95, and run it stable for an hour with a small FFT option. Cinebench pulls like 50 Watt less than even default Prime95 test. Small FFT is pure torture. In everyday gaming, my CPU is at a low 60-ies range. That with very quiet system. BTW, that's mount without the contact frame. I have one but I am waiting for 14900K and will use it when that comes in.

  • @bulzaiguard
    @bulzaiguard Год назад

    The Barrow also has an adapter like aquacomputer to change it to 'normal' argb connector
    Btw thank you for this test i have ekwb velocity atm so might go for one of the other ones in the future