How to Make DIY Lavender Spruce Shower Gel
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RECIPE
7.5g | 5% Sodium Coco Sulfate (SCS)
11.25g | 7.50% Cocamidopropyl Betaine (Amphosol CG)
118.35g | 78.9% distilled water, heated
10.5g | 7% vegetable glycerine
0.075g | 0.050% red lake dye
0.075g | 0.050% blue lake dye
0.75g | 0.50% lavender essential oil
0.75g | 0.50% spruce essential oil
0.75g | 0.50% liquid germall plus
1:1 citric acid solution, as needed
Salt, as needed
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I've made this recipe a few times ... it was my first shower gel, and I really liked it.
A few things I found:
- it lathers better if you let it "age" for a few days. And the older it gets, the better it lathers.
- it took me a lot more salt to get it thick enough. I learned elsewhere that you never add more than 3% salt, or it thins out again.
- I split my batch and made half eucalyptus-mint (colored green) and half mixed citrus essential oils (yellow). The citrus was a bit thicker, just from the different EOs.
- it's also thicker in winter, when my bathroom is colder than in the summer.
I'm running low ... time to make another batch!
Thanks!
Thank you!! This was super cool and exactly what I was looking for!!
I'm going to try this!!! I love your videos you explain everything sooooo easy!!! You are amazing!! Thanks to you I learned how to make lotion!!!😊😊 all I did was change the oils to my bodybutter mix but your video helped a great deal!!! Thank you❤❤❤❤
YAY! I'm so glad :D Congratulations on the lotion, and thank you so much for DIYing with me!
Thank you for another great recipe! I'll definitely use this recipe for my household bath routine. ❤
You're so welcome! I just used it again this morning and I am so in love with all the bubbles!
thank you! I made your creamy clay cleansing balm and I love it!
YAY! I'm so thrilled to hear it :)
Sweet marie you're the best love you so much thanx for teaching us all of that and i always learn a lot of things from your blog ❤❤❤
Thank you so much!
Fabulous Marie! I'm going to put the main ingreidents which I can't spell or say on my "to get" list! Thanks so much for showing us how to make this!!💜💜💜
Thanks for watching and happy making! :)
Hi!! Can we add xanthan gum to get jelly texture?
I just made this and I am so elated it is my first attempt making it like this and it turned out wonderfully thank you so very much.
That's wonderful! Thanks for DIYing with me, and happy making :)
Hello! I have your book! And I love it!!! I have a question, can I substitute the salt for Peg-150?
Hi Marie,
First let me thank you for being a great teacher. You are amazing. 👍🏼 I made this shower gel and found that it doesn’t lather enough. I followed you recipe exactly except that I doubled the weight. Just curious where I went wrong and what should I do to increase the lather. Thanks again for your wonderful support.
Thanks so much! Did you make any substitutions?
Its so awesome... thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hi!! Can I add sci instead of sodium coco sulphate..
Regards
Hi Marie just wanted to ask can we not substitute SCS with SCI?
I love this I’ll try it out thank u for sharing
Could you recommend some other good surfactants to use if I don’t fine these ?
Hey! You'll find the answer to your question in my FAQ on my website at humblebeeandme.com/faq/ 😊Happy making!
Can we use liquid color instead of lake dye ?
Wow that was cool. I would’ve like to have seen you lather it just to see how bubbly it is. Thanks Marie.
The best way to get a feel for the bubbles is to have it on a loofah and use it in the shower... and I couldn't quite figure out how to do that decently LOL 😂
Swimsuit! :D
Just a suggestion, haha, it's your account. I watch a lot of hair videos (I'm actually following your blog primarily for the conditioner recipes~) and the girls in those always have on swimsuits. It's an idea, but honestly I hate wearing a swimsuit even in real life.
Honestly, if I can gush for half a second--I don't even own / do any makeup and I'm still buying your book just because you've been so helpful in my haircare regimen.
That is all!
@@HumblebeeAndMe you could just have used a loofah in the sink on your arm?
Can I use coco betaine
hi Marie
love the recipe as always ❤
I have a question. can setearyl alcohol work as an emulsifier itself ?
No-it is not an emulsifier. This is in a recent blog post ;)
Can you skip the colorant part to make this with only oils?
Marie you simply rock. Awesome.
Can you plz tell how to use arrowroot powder in a body salve to make it less greasy..
You can typically incorporate it at about 10% :)
Thanks Marie
do you ever use a hot plate magnetic stirrer? I am considering purchasing one since it keeps a consistent temperature and obviously stirs. Do you think it's over-kill to use one if you're just making simple balms and lotions?
I don't; I'd probably say it's overkill. I wouldn't invest in one unless I already had a thriving business selling things.
Superb! Sis can we substitute something non ionic in the place of sodium coco sulphate? Pls let me know. Thanks
www.humblebeeandme.com/christmas-tree-body-wash/ :)
What can be used instead of Betaine?
Is there any way to add some moisturizing properties to this other than the glycerine?
The easiest way would be to add something like water soluble shea butter :) It will reduce the lather, though, and remember-this is a wash off product, and it's still fundamentally a cleanser. All you can really do is make it gentler; if you truly need moisture, it is best to add it afterwards.
Hi Mary can we use another surfanctant instead of coco sulfate? Can we also use xanthan gum instead of salt? Thank you
Please refer to the blog post for your first question. I really would not recommend using xanthan gum instead of salt. Why would you? Salt is inexpensive (you almost definitely already have it) and gives great results, while xanthan gum gives a really snotty end texture :/
I really enjoying watching your videos. I like a lot of your projects and I'm interested in trying some. But I'm wondering if you have any ideas for making a more masculine, woodsy scent. Something like with wintergreen, fir, sage, etc. I like the smell of vanilla, but I don't want to go around smelling like that all day.
I've tried some really lovely more masculine-type fragrance oils from Brambleberry! I'd recommend checking them out :) Happy making!
I make body wash for my husband and father. They are both very manly, so I make these scents:
Cedar and lime
Orange and clove
Absynthe (black licorice type of smell)
Eucalyptus
I recommend these!
Marie,
What else can be used to thicken this other then salt. Ive made this two times now and both times it has become cloudy from the salt....before adding the salt it was pretty translucent.
thanks
You could try liquid crothix, or perhaps another source of electrolytes, like aloe vera juice or sodium lactate :) Happy making!
Hi marrie, can i use castille soap instead of sodium coco sulphate and cocamidoprophy betaine?
No, I'm afraid not.
Oh okay.....I understood.....I had this doubt about what makes the gel part in the gel body washes like the one you made and this made me understand better.....it is the perils of Coco Sulfate that when added with the the liquid Cocamidopropy Betaine form the gel or the paste part that becomes the gel when you add distilled water and the other ingredients.....Marie you are really a good teacher.....
Marie...why do you add the salt? And how does the salt help?
The salt is actually the thickener in this recipe :) Without it the end product would be about as thick as water!
Hello, thank you for this recipe :) can't wait to try it! I want to use products that i already have in to make this so i am making some substitutions thanks to your blog post.
I am confused about 1 thing though.... You mention a 1:1 citric acid solution but what is the solution? I can't find it on the blog post. Is it citric acid mixed with water maybe? Of equal weights?
You also said use 3 drops of it, do you know how much each drop weighs, as i don't have a fancy pippet, i will just be pouring in.
I also do not have any preservatives in, is this necessary if i am going to be using the product fairly quickly?
Again thank you for sharing this video!
Becky Baker citric acid mixed with water. You could always keep it in the refrigerator for a week or two at most. Just note any changes in the mixture before you use it.
Mix a small amount of citric acid with the same weight of water, say 5 grams of each. Make sure it's fully dissolved, then use drops of that. Then toss the rest, because it won't keep.
You really need to add based on a pH test. The amount you need depends on the pH of the body wash, and you can't know that without testing. And get a bag of pipets next order ... they're not expensive, and they are very, very useful.
Do you think if I make smh like that for my face is it a good idea to add salt? Or something else?
There's no reason not to add the salt-it's used at less than 2%, it's a wash-off product, and salt isn't bad for the skin.
Lovely video
😄
Do you have any shower gels that use anti-fungel herbals like ECHINACEA. My friend daughter has issues with skin rashes and I wanted to make her some shower gel...
mss burr You mean she has eczema?
With this recipe/formula...is it imperative that you use the SCS noodles? Can you use SCS in the powder form? if so, is there a difference in the amount used (powder vs noodle)?
I have the powder form and just dont want to try this if the powder isnt going to work and waste ingredients...
Powder should be fine :) I just haven't found it for sale in Canada, so I only ever use the noodles.
Will this work with hard water. Our tap water has a high hardness. Do you have specific formulation for this?
I have very hard water and this works wonderfully for me :) Happy making!
Hi Marie. can I replace Sodium coco sulfate with other surfactants? thank you
Yup-please check out the FAQ (www.humblebeeandme.com/faq/), there's an article on surfactant substitutions. Happy making!
Thanks for sharing, it looks a very nice product to use on the skin. I only have a question, why is the pH on the 5's.and not 7. I'm confused, I thought that for hair shampoo it needs to be like 5.5 can you illuminate me, please. Thanks again
The pH of the skin is ~4.7 ;) simpleskincarescience.com/ph-acid-mantle/, www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/no-longer-recommend-baking-soda-high-ph-cleansers/
Humblebee & Me thank you so much, very useful information. I might know now why the top of my hands are so irritated and itchy, I thought it were the rubber gloves but may be a combinaation with washing my hands so frequently all day. I appreciate your info!
Hi Marie, this is an excellent video with clear instructions. If I had the ingredients I'd be making this recipe right away. Cheers, Ardith
Thanks so much, Ardith! 😄
I felt the same way
Hey Marie!! Can I substitute salt with xanthan gum?
Hi! Kind of... but why? Salt gives a much nicer result than xanthan gum will and with a gum there's a risk of curdling.
I made this product but the lotion didnt thicken and lather was less
Can I use Sodium Lauryl Sulphate (SLS) instead of Sodium Coco Sulphate (SCS)
You can certainly try it!
Hi Marie! I have a question. What are your views on Sucrose Cocoate?
I don't really have any views on it-is it supposed to be controversial? I usually only get asked about "my views" on more controversial ingredients. It looks to be an interesting ingredient to play with. It has some similarities with the sucrose laurate that powers Sucragel (sucrose cocoate would be made from whole coconut oil rather than isolated lauric acid).
Other than it being tested on animals, no. I just heard about it and wanted to know your view on it. Btw, what happened to the moisturizing shower gel formula? I wanted to try it.
I love your videos! I do have a question about this recipe though. What kind or type of salt do you use to thicken your bodywash? regular iodized salt, kosher salt, or sea salt? I can't wait to make this!
I used plain ol' table salt, but any of the types you listed will work-they're all primarily NaCl.
Can I make this soap without any of the colorants or dyes????
For sure, it just won't be colourful 🙂
I made this and it turned out perfectly with just a salt addition. I made exactly 5 times the amount and it would not thicken at all. Any suggestions?
You can try xhantam gum
Why not anthem gum?
Can micas be used instead of the lakes?
Hey! You'll find the answer to your question in my FAQ on my website at www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/can-i-use-mica-instead-of-pure-pigment/ 🙂 Happy making!
why do you test the ph by diluting it. Wouldn't you use the product as it when done, ? I'd love to know more about this and why you do this. Love your videos
This post explains it really well: skinchakra.eu/blog/archives/516-pH-measurement-in-cosmetic-lab-why-we-dilute-samples.html. The website looks to be down right now but hopefully it comes back ASAP!
Can i replace scs with sls?
Try it-I think it will work just fine :)
Can I recreate this formula for the face???
Why not just follow one of the many face wash formulations I've shared instead? :) www.humblebeeandme.com/face-recipes/how-to-make-facial-cleansers/
pls enlighten me on 1:1 Citric acid against what item?
Distilled water.
How long is the shelf life?
This is covered in the blog 😉
Can I use just f parfum
Yup!
?? I was wondering if SCI can be used instead of SCS at the same percentage? Thank you.
I'd recommend giving this a read: www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/how-can-i-substitute-one-surfactant-for-another/ :)
can you use cocoa butter or any butter in this recipe?
Not without a serious re-formulation; please read this for more info: www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/can-i-add-a-surfactant-to-this-mostly-fat-based-formulation-or-vice-versa/. Happy making!
@@HumblebeeAndMe Thx for your help
@@HumblebeeAndMe Last question for formulation without oil if you want to add additives which as Kaolin Clay, Allantoin & Colloidal oats how do you stop it from separating?
Does the salt dry the skin?
No. It's present at perhaps 2% in a product that is on the skin for a few seconds.
How do I make sure the ph is good just by using this equipment
In pharmacy school we learned that it should be basic
It should actually be acidic, not basic. Please go through the FAQ (www.humblebeeandme.com/faq/) to learn more!
Okay I will thank u so much !
I've tried this recipe and several others on multiple occasions and I can never get it to thicken. No matter how slow I add the salt, how much I mix it or how hot or cool the mixture is... I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
How odd! Have you made any substitutions?
@@HumblebeeAndMe Yes... but I also have tried your recipe exactly as listed and cannot figure out where I'm going wrong. Should it be completely room temperature before any salt additions? Does the type of salt matter at all? I appreciate any tips you may have as I'm going to keep trying to get it right!
How many grams of salt did you add? Does salt increase the consistency?
Hi! It sounds like you haven't read the partner blog post? Could you, please? :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Yes, I didn't hear it, I noticed. I just made this recipe. It was very nice. 120 gr total
Salt is pretty drying on the skin and can upset the natural oil balance. I know this formula has glycerine to combat some of this affect but couldnt this be thickened with Carbomer or exanthan gum instead?
At 2-3% salt is not going to dry the skin, especially in a wash off product. That is less salt than ocean water typically has.
You could try xanthan, but it makes things really slimy and boogery.
Good video, thank you. Can I ask why my shower gel become mushy? I only use ingredients salt, SLS and water. I didn't adjust pH because I am testing the viscosity now. My shower gel became blurred and I can see SLS paste in the water(I already diluted the SLS noodles but they appeared again).
I'm afraid I can't say with only that information; too much salt could perhaps make it thicker than intended?
@@HumblebeeAndMe yeah i made a little research and exactly the problem is that. I added so much salt, you shouldn't add more than 2%. And salt doesn't thicken the gel that much, I have to use another thickener while preserve its clearness. Thanks.
Wonderful! Could you teach us how to make a shaving cream?
I'm actually working on a recipe now! Great performance so far, but terrible presentation 😂
💗🙏😍
The Coco Sulfate is necessary? Aren't Sulfate not so good?
it's surfactant shower gel so surfactant is necessary. The benefit is it's supposed to be very bubbly than the natural one. There's so many surfactant options that very gentle, for example, my favourite is SCI. However if you want more natural option you can make natural soap bar, she has video about it. Or you can make natural liquid soap but it took more than 5 hours to make.
Sulphates are fine, no problems. Only one is too irritating for skin (sodium lauryl sulphate), and it's not dangerous or toxic, just too strong a cleanser. Other sulphate-based surfactants are much milder.
There are plenty of other body wash formulae out there, using other surfactants. Or you could use lye soap, which has a much longer history but is also harsh on the skin.
Hi Marie, I don’t have luck with this project honey .First of all I use SCI instead of SCS with the same amount as the recipe .Second of all I had to put a lot more salt to thicken it.Third of all it didn’t have a lot of bubbles and when I tried to wash my hands it was not easy glide .I don’t know what I did wrong .I may have to try again honey ,By the way can I request firming facial cream honey . Thank you very much
Everything you mentioned that didn't work out well is because you used Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate (SCI) instead of Sodium Coco Sulfate (SCS); please try again using the called for ingredients :)
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Hello!!...Thank you for being gracious and humble that you have shared so many of you formulas!! However, I do have a pressing issue with this formula (and the Christmas green one). Can either of these formulas be made without color or fragrance and be made as a masterbatched base? What I am wondering, is if I can make a larger bulk amount without color or fragrance and then when I need to bottle up a scent (lets say apple) I can just go to that bucket and take out the amount I need...color it and scent it then bottle it. Is that possible?
PS this site is way better then that "monkey" site!!
Hey Joe! Generally speaking, yes, but there are a few challenges. Out of the two formulas, I would choose this one (give this a read re: the limitations of the other one: www.humblebeeandme.com/the-tale-of-the-curdling-body-wash/).
Challenge #1: incorporating a powdered dye will require some gentle-ness and time-you obviously don't want to be stirring a body wash vigorously after it is finished lest you end up with a bubble volcano :) A liquid dye may be a better choice.
Challenge #2: surfactants, thickening, and fragrances can have some unpredictable interplay (again, see previously linked post). You may find your perfectly lovely shower gel thins out a ton with one fragrance and thickens with another. That will require some experimentation on your part :)
Thanks for DIYing with me, and happy making :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe So with the above being said, can this be made into a master batch? after reading the above linked post concerning the benzyl benzoate, that is a difficult thing to seek out as its not listed in many vendors websites for the various fragrance oils. So this brings me back to my original question....can this be made into a master batch amount?
I had no idea you could use salt as a thickener. That’s some science.
It's super cool! You can read more about it here: chemistscorner.com/why-does-salt-thicken-shampoos/.
You are not pour preservatives
The entire formulation fell apart! In just one day😭 I did exactly the way shown! Emulsifier is needed
Bummer! Emulsifiers help bring together oil and water; since there is no oil in this formulation, an emulsifier won't help. Did you make any substitutions? Have you tried making a version with no essential oils or fragrance oils? Those can cause problems.
@@HumblebeeAndMe I had added essential oils... The glycerine portion n water has separated 😭
@@ritijain5455 Try removing the essential oils, then-those can be problematic in surfactant formulations. Search "curdling" @ www.humblebeeandme.com/search to learn more about one specific instance :)
"Both sodium coco sulfate and SLS are synthetic detergents and should never be part of any natural cleanser. Natural products that are kind to your skin, and environmentally friendly, will not contain lauryl sulfate, laureth sulfate, coco sulfate or any of the long list of other synthetic detergents."
I'm well aware that Sodium Coco Sulfate (SCS) is synthetic, and I'm quite confident I never state that this formulation is natural..?
Also, please read these posts :)
www.humblebeeandme.com/lets-talk-natural/
www.humblebeeandme.com/natural-efficacy-fallacy-natural-shaming/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/whats-the-point-of-diy-if-youre-using-all-these-chemicals/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/is-x-ingredient-a-chemical/
@@HumblebeeAndMe thank you for you comment and the links ♥
You are looking very very over smart
Whats the point of making this if u’re using chemical purchases
Chemistry is fun!