There's a kit for this formulation! ➡ yellowbee.ca/collections/product-starter-kit/products/starter-kit-foaming-shower-oil-kit?variant=45783256334627 Ingredient links, substitutions, + heaps more info ➡ www.humblebeeandme.com/foaming-shower-oil/. Happy making!
Hi, you have often talked about Polyquaternium in your formulations. Can you please do an ingriedient deep dive on the various types like 7, 10, 37, 39, etc variants of Polyquaternium to explain how they are to be used or whatsvtheir specific usage depending on their numbering? Thanks, as always.
Marie, thank you for sharing the suppliers for Lumorol because some were saying you could only get it from the UK. We can always count on your for being thorough.
Oh my goodness Queen Bee Marie! You totally read my mind! I was just getting ready to write and ask for such a formulation. I have been watching your channel for about 3 months now, gathering ingredients and trying your recipes. I used to have a small hobby business making soap, lotion and other toiletries. I downgraded my equipment and am just making for myself and friends that ask. Thank you for making such lovely videos.
Does lather=cleansing power? I mean, do you need lots of lather for something to clean? I like to use shower oils for hand wash, but then I will use a typical hand wash when I’m worried about bacteria or viruses because I worry that the low foaming stuff isn’t really getting the bad stuff.
Hey Marie 👋 Question. I remember you saying that the product's finished pH was at 7. Would it be possible to lower the ph of the oils by solubilizing citric acid or lactic acid with polysorbate 20, or 80 or a natural solubilizer since its only drops being added?
Hi marie, im from malaysia and i couldnt find lumorol, but i found mipa-laureth & laureth-4 sells separately, do u know if i could use it? If so, what is the percentage of each ingredient?
That should work well! I've shared my analysis/deduction of the % of each ingredient in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe thank you for your reply! Purchasing the ingredient nowwww! Cant wait to make this! And thank you for sharing all the good formulation! Xx you’re awesome!
And I can't get that ingredient in the US and really want it!! Kinda sucks how we all can't get the same ingredients. I am very curious to know how it works!
Has anyone with hard water gotten this to foam with the formulation given? I used 40% Lumorol and get barely there, creamy foam. No where near the big bubbles demonstrated. And my cost to make/package is over $9 per 4 oz 😯😯
I want to buy your spatula please let me know how can I order!! I always follow you😊💐💐💐💐💐🤗🤗🤗🤗 thank you for simplifying this formula because I tried so many ways but it didn't work😢.. but now I am sure this is going to work,🎉 Just a question.. it won't make body dry because of so much foaming ??
I was just about to order some Lumerol K when I thought to check my ingredients spreadsheet, lo and behold I bought some last year. Huzzah.... I will give this a go at the weekend. Thank you.
I've discussed possible alternatives + linked to suppliers in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :) www.humblebeeandme.com/project/lumorol-k-5229/
THANK YOU for the US product information. I tried to order from UK years ago and it was always out of stock. I stop trying. ORDER PLACED!!! YEA!!! TFS. Yesterday, I checked out QVC for this brand. It is my favorite, and I am so glad I did not purchase the shower gel. I spent too much time on Amazon Prime Day. lol. Much Luv!!!!
This would make a beautiful bubble bath. My mom has a immune disease that causes her skin to be really dry. She has tried to use oil in the tub, but hates the greasy feel. (Honestly she doesn't believe that she can get clean in it.) I'm going to try this with a heavy oil. She likes to take long baths, so it's worth the extra cost if it works. Thinking about almond oil, do you have a suggestion?
You can use almond oil instead of the apricot oil I've learned, but I have since learned you'll need to keep the MCT as is or the formula will split. You can also use more LUMOROL K 5229 for more lather, which would make sense in a bubble bath application :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Sounds good, thank you so much for all your hard work. I have made many of your recipes. They really are wonderful. I'm allergic to coconut, so its really nice to have alternatives. Seams like everything is made with coconut now days, and a lot of people are allergic.
Off topic a bit but I was making a dark spot treatment last night with sepi white and niacinamide and dmso. I had to add polysorbate 80. It foamed so much when I blended it but love it today. Totally forgot about the foaming power of polysorbate.
@@ThankYouJesusTheChrist so far it's feels like a great oil. The dmso helps dissolve the sepi white and niacinamide fast and penetrate into the skin but once I added the water it became weird and separated like old cottage cheese. Then i decided to use a lil polysorbate and blend and it's a beautiful oil like substance now. Its looks and feel good. I want to try to add hyaluronic acid to make a gel but i think i should leave well enough alone😆 🤣. For now 🤔
@@bringthemesstv thank you for your reply! Yeah, it's good to know when to call it quits on your experimenting! Just one more question, at what % did you add the DMSO and the poly?
@@bringthemesstv Many thanks!! I've been too scared to formulate with DMSO but really wanted to due to it's penetration enhancing abilities ~ thank you so much! I'm not scared anymore...
I've discussed possible alternatives + linked to suppliers (including one from Thailand that will ship quickly to you in Australia) in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :) www.humblebeeandme.com/project/lumorol-k-5229/
I don't, but the first thing I'd try would be incorporating some Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate into a lip butter :) Simply Ingredients sells it-it's a really stable oil soluble form of vitamin C!
@@edwardreynolds6496 simple, precise and gets to the point : "how to make a foaming shower oil". personally, as a viewer, i would immediately click on that. if i was a new viewer, i would have never watched this video just because of the title.
Hello, I reduced the oil and then added cucumber extract and foam silk. I noticed the cucumber caused it to be a bit cloudy but is lovely, lathers great and smells devine.
This is the comment I needed. I tried this formula but it wasn't foamy enough for me. What % foam silk did you use? Also, what's the INCI for foam silk?
Not quite; it contributes rinse-off, but won't lather. Check out the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) entry on LUMOROL K 5229 to learn more :)
Hello dear , I got this substance from your store in Canada about two weeks ago, and when I made this oil shower formula, I found that there is a line separating two oils, but I don’t know what they are. I can show you a picture of it.
Hi! Did you swap out the Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT/Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride) by chance? I've since learned that it is integral to keeping things together. You can also use mineral oil instead :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Yes, it is. I used sweet almond oil because I love it, and also sunflower oil, and I added BHT , only 1 percent essential oil, and a preservative. And Lumorol k of course
You *could*, but it wouldn't be my first choice-I'd save it for anhydrous formulations because it's more expensive than alternatives like SCI, Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate (SLSa), Cocamidopropyl Betaine, etc. and because it'll turn milky in anything that contains water.
I found the same thing - hand stirring always separates, but when I follow the ingredient lab's suggestion and mix high shear for 10 minutes ... perfect. I always follow the manufacturer's process ... they make the ingredient, they test it a lot, they know how to make it work best.
Like dissolves like; that’s why oil cleansers are so effective. The oil in the product dissolves sebum and then the surfactant allows it to rinse off beautifully.
Definitely! Just reduce the oil to make room-but remember to keep costs down, they really won't offer any benefit in the 10 seconds they'll be on the skin :)
There's a kit for this formulation! ➡ yellowbee.ca/collections/product-starter-kit/products/starter-kit-foaming-shower-oil-kit?variant=45783256334627
Ingredient links, substitutions, + heaps more info ➡ www.humblebeeandme.com/foaming-shower-oil/. Happy making!
hi, the loccitane one uses tipa and not mipa laureth sulfate. Is there a big difference between these two?
Hi, you have often talked about Polyquaternium in your formulations.
Can you please do an ingriedient deep dive on the various types like 7, 10, 37, 39, etc variants of Polyquaternium to explain how they are to be used or whatsvtheir specific usage depending on their numbering?
Thanks, as always.
Now I know why my laundry is so dingy after using cheap washing products from Dollar Tree. They put everything there except cleaning material! 😂😂😂
Pffft, who needs the cleaning thing in cleaner? 🤣🙈😝
@@HumblebeeAndMe 🤣🤣🤣
Marie, thank you for sharing the suppliers for Lumorol because some were saying you could only get it from the UK. We can always count on your for being thorough.
Oh my goodness Queen Bee Marie! You totally read my mind! I was just getting ready to write and ask for such a formulation. I have been watching your channel for about 3 months now, gathering ingredients and trying your recipes. I used to have a small hobby business making soap, lotion and other toiletries. I downgraded my equipment and am just making for myself and friends that ask. Thank you for making such lovely videos.
Omg! Thank you for mentioning Glossier’s shower oil in this video. That’s the one I’m familiar with since I’m obsessed with glossier.
Does lather=cleansing power? I mean, do you need lots of lather for something to clean? I like to use shower oils for hand wash, but then I will use a typical hand wash when I’m worried about bacteria or viruses because I worry that the low foaming stuff isn’t really getting the bad stuff.
I am from Panama, thanks for this importand information, What oils can I replace with apricot kermel oil? I will apreciate your replay
Hey Marie 👋
Question. I remember you saying that the product's finished pH was at 7. Would it be possible to lower the ph of the oils by solubilizing citric acid or lactic acid with polysorbate 20, or 80 or a natural solubilizer since its only drops being added?
I just ordered this wonderful ingredient online! 😂 then your video pops up. Thanks marie. 😍
Hi @fidasabihim, r u from malaysia? If so, where do u purchased the lumorol?
Hooray! ❤️
@@Dreambalms wow hi fellow malaysian! I just ordered from UK 😊
Para minha tristeza, não vende Lumerol no Brasil. Queria muito.
Hello my dear, the color gradually changed to dark orange. Why?
Hey! Can I use this ingredient in my cleansing balm for face or possibly an oil cleanser for face?
Can this be used for shampoo formulation
Hi marie, im from malaysia and i couldnt find lumorol, but i found mipa-laureth & laureth-4 sells separately, do u know if i could use it? If so, what is the percentage of each ingredient?
That should work well! I've shared my analysis/deduction of the % of each ingredient in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe thank you for your reply! Purchasing the ingredient nowwww! Cant wait to make this! And thank you for sharing all the good formulation! Xx you’re awesome!
And I can't get that ingredient in the US and really want it!! Kinda sucks how we all can't get the same ingredients. I am very curious to know how it works!
Has anyone with hard water gotten this to foam with the formulation given? I used 40% Lumorol and get barely there, creamy foam. No where near the big bubbles demonstrated. And my cost to make/package is over $9 per 4 oz 😯😯
Share the recipe of hyloronic face mist
I want to buy your spatula please let me know how can I order!!
I always follow you😊💐💐💐💐💐🤗🤗🤗🤗 thank you for simplifying this formula because I tried so many ways but it didn't work😢.. but now I am sure this is going to work,🎉
Just a question.. it won't make body dry because of so much foaming ??
I was just about to order some Lumerol K when I thought to check my ingredients spreadsheet, lo and behold I bought some last year. Huzzah.... I will give this a go at the weekend. Thank you.
I love it when that happens 😄 Happy making!
Love the video- what are some good alternatives to lumorol k 5229 ? Having a hard time finding it unless it is called something else.
I've discussed possible alternatives + linked to suppliers in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :) www.humblebeeandme.com/project/lumorol-k-5229/
You know how to make Moroccan black soap foam? I’m thinking this won’t work because there’s water in lt. Thanks
Hello
There is an unpleasant smell similar to the smell of eggs. How can I get rid of it, knowing that I put perfume in the product?
Hey, I'm about to watch the video, but real quick - the link to Dauphine Organics in the Encyclopedia entry is broken! :)
THANK YOU for the US product information. I tried to order from UK years ago and it was always out of stock. I stop trying. ORDER PLACED!!! YEA!!! TFS. Yesterday, I checked out QVC for this brand. It is my favorite, and I am so glad I did not purchase the shower gel. I spent too much time on Amazon Prime Day. lol. Much Luv!!!!
This would make a beautiful bubble bath. My mom has a immune disease that causes her skin to be really dry. She has tried to use oil in the tub, but hates the greasy feel. (Honestly she doesn't believe that she can get clean in it.) I'm going to try this with a heavy oil. She likes to take long baths, so it's worth the extra cost if it works. Thinking about almond oil, do you have a suggestion?
You can use almond oil instead of the apricot oil I've learned, but I have since learned you'll need to keep the MCT as is or the formula will split. You can also use more LUMOROL K 5229 for more lather, which would make sense in a bubble bath application :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Sounds good, thank you so much for all your hard work. I have made many of your recipes. They really are wonderful. I'm allergic to coconut, so its really nice to have alternatives. Seams like everything is made with coconut now days, and a lot of people are allergic.
I really love .If ever I get a chance, I will definitely come from India to meet you.❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Finally
what would you recommend to thicken a foaming oil?
You could try Silica Dimethyl Silylate (SDS) :)
Off topic a bit but I was making a dark spot treatment last night with sepi white and niacinamide and dmso. I had to add polysorbate 80. It foamed so much when I blended it but love it today. Totally forgot about the foaming power of polysorbate.
I'd imagine DMSO would change the viscosity or other characteristics of your formula a LOT, what have you noticed?
@@ThankYouJesusTheChrist so far it's feels like a great oil. The dmso helps dissolve the sepi white and niacinamide fast and penetrate into the skin but once I added the water it became weird and separated like old cottage cheese. Then i decided to use a lil polysorbate and blend and it's a beautiful oil like substance now. Its looks and feel good. I want to try to add hyaluronic acid to make a gel but i think i should leave well enough alone😆 🤣. For now 🤔
@@bringthemesstv thank you for your reply! Yeah, it's good to know when to call it quits on your experimenting! Just one more question, at what % did you add the DMSO and the poly?
@@ThankYouJesusTheChrist 2% msh,2% Dmso. I was only trying to making 4 ounces.
@@bringthemesstv Many thanks!! I've been too scared to formulate with DMSO but really wanted to due to it's penetration enhancing abilities ~ thank you so much! I'm not scared anymore...
Is there an alternative to the lumerol as I can’t find it in Australia
I've discussed possible alternatives + linked to suppliers (including one from Thailand that will ship quickly to you in Australia) in the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia entry on LUMOROL K 5229 :) www.humblebeeandme.com/project/lumorol-k-5229/
Thank you. I love your videos. Do you have something for brightening or lightening lips?
I don't, but the first thing I'd try would be incorporating some Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate into a lip butter :) Simply Ingredients sells it-it's a really stable oil soluble form of vitamin C!
@@HumblebeeAndMe that sounds good. Thank you so much!!
Can you add a colorant to this? Also, which type would be best? Thanks!!
Hi I live in Africa .. n I can’t get this ingredient ... what is the alternative ... I can use
Is this still considered natural? What does it come from?
Thank you so much for sharing. I will definitely be going to take a look at your patron page.
Can you add the oil to a cold process soap recipe.
Can i use this recipe for commercial sale ?
Wow! Thank you for sharing this formula with us. It looks great. Interesting new ingredient for me!
Is this a soap?
It can be used as one
@@qxia_3142 What's its primary function?
Very cool! Your formulations are amazing!
Can you send a viedo of the lip stick love it
Can you share the link with the lids!?
Game changer!! Thank you so much Marie 😊
Looks divine,. Where I can buy the LUMOROL K in the USA?
I've linked a US supplier in the free partner blog post: www.humblebeeandme.com/summer-glow-body-oil/. Happy making!
giirl you are so good at making videos, but so bad at choosing titles 😅 sorry i kept thinking that forever i just had to tell you
curious! what would be your tile?
@@edwardreynolds6496 simple, precise and gets to the point : "how to make a foaming shower oil". personally, as a viewer, i would immediately click on that. if i was a new viewer, i would have never watched this video just because of the title.
Hello, I reduced the oil and then added cucumber extract and foam silk. I noticed the cucumber caused it to be a bit cloudy but is lovely, lathers great and smells devine.
This is the comment I needed. I tried this formula but it wasn't foamy enough for me. What % foam silk did you use? Also, what's the INCI for foam silk?
Just saying I saw you on brambleberry. Awesome Sauce!
😄😄😄
It's cromolliemt sce the same type of ingredient? I use this in my facial oil cleanser.
Not quite; it contributes rinse-off, but won't lather. Check out the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) entry on LUMOROL K 5229 to learn more :)
Can we use Lauryl Glucoside ? Please do reply
No. Please read the free partner blog post and the free Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia entry on LUMOROL K 5229 to learn more :)
Hello dear ,
I got this substance from your store in Canada about two weeks ago, and when I made this oil shower formula, I found that there is a line separating two oils, but I don’t know what they are. I can show you a picture of it.
Hi! Did you swap out the Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT/Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride) by chance? I've since learned that it is integral to keeping things together. You can also use mineral oil instead :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Yes, it is. I used sweet almond oil because I love it, and also sunflower oil, and I added BHT , only 1 percent essential oil, and a preservative.
And Lumorol k of course
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Only this is the reason!?
@@HumblebeeAndMe I used the CCT but still there is separate !! 😢
Hi Marie, any tips on how to get an almond scent ?
Use an almond fragrance oil :) www.brambleberry.com/shop-by-product/ingredients/fragrance-oils/almond-fragrance-oil/V000180.html
can you use Lumorol in body wash and shampoos to get it to lather up just like sls?
You *could*, but it wouldn't be my first choice-I'd save it for anhydrous formulations because it's more expensive than alternatives like SCI, Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate (SLSa), Cocamidopropyl Betaine, etc. and because it'll turn milky in anything that contains water.
@@HumblebeeAndMe oh ok , thank you , what about adding this to my lotions or would it turn out to be milky too?
Can o e use mineral oil or baby oil ?
You can use mineral oil instead of the MCT or as all of the oil :)
If not mix with a high sheer mixer for at least 10 minutes this formulation separates. It will need a good shake before use.
I have a hand stirred version that I made 2 1/2 years ago that is still stable 😉
I found the same thing - hand stirring always separates, but when I follow the ingredient lab's suggestion and mix high shear for 10 minutes ... perfect.
I always follow the manufacturer's process ... they make the ingredient, they test it a lot, they know how to make it work best.
Loved it greatly explained sister ❤️
Thank you 🙂
Wait a minute are you Canadian too?
I am!
Thank you for the trick. ❤
You're welcome 😊 Happy making!
Shouldn't shower gel remove the oil? Isn't it the purpose of showering? Why to have oil in the gel?
This rinses of really well and leaves the skin feeling very clean, just like a good oil cleanser or cleansing balm-but it also lathers!
@@HumblebeeAndMe but why to put oil in CLEANSING product?
Like dissolves like; that’s why oil cleansers are so effective. The oil in the product dissolves sebum and then the surfactant allows it to rinse off beautifully.
@@HumblebeeAndMe surfactants dissolve sebum quite well without any help. It feels like a waste
I have lumerol and with every test batch with fragrance I notice that it gets darker can you explain why @humblebeeandme
Can you add a Oil based extracts
Definitely! Just reduce the oil to make room-but remember to keep costs down, they really won't offer any benefit in the 10 seconds they'll be on the skin :)