Same here. The Mantis is more accurate that any other method I can think of. In a few days, I went from 1.7ish to sub 1 second draw. The best combo of draw speed to accuracy for me is 1.1-1.2 seconds. If anyone is on the fence about buying the MantisX, DO IT!
So very cool to see friends growing and learning. Adam is a super knowledgeable and skillful guy, so this shows me that if he is continually finding new ways to improve, we ALL can! Pairing work like this with Brian Hill's excellent insights into practice (like the different types of ways to get to the gun and get it out of the holster) and it feels like I have my own 1-on-1 session with some of the best teachers & coaches in the nation! Thanks John & Adam!
My Dry Fire setup consists of the Mantis X10 with the app in Holster Draw Analysis mode running on an iPad, and the Mantis Laser Academy app on an iPhone with the 1/3-sized IDPA target. The Mantis app provides me with timing and draw analysis, and the Laser Academy app records the hits. I usually keep 98 to 99% of the hits in the - 0 zone. My most obvious area where I can improve is also getting the shot off after getting the dot on target -- I'm not consistent in prepping the trigger properly. I believe that Dry Fire has become far more common with COVID keeping people at home more, and the outrageous ammo prices. I'd love to see some statistics from the Mantis guys on how many Live Fire vs. Dry Fire shots their customers have done over the last 24 months. John, you have connections -- could you check? I think that would make for an interesting ASPE video.
I prefer the “universal” Mantis adapter plate that just sticky tapes on and I add superglue in place on any brand magazine. You don’t have to take base plate off and keep track of it. Have it on several different models and never comes loose unless I want it to.
John Im not sure if anyone else caught it but when he goes to shoot, watch the back of his legs....he rising up on the balls of his feet. Something that he may want to watch for in future training. Not saying anything negative at all about the shooter, just that its the fine details that make big results especially at distance.
@@MantisX one issue i have come across is i will draw and fire but the mantis won’t pick it up. I ise the laser app one device and the mantis x on other. The laser records 68 hits but the mantis x only picks up 50 draws.
As always a great video I am working on the draw in dry fire my question should you start with a slower draw and on target then slowly speed up. I worry if I try to start to fast I may be ingraining bad habits Thank you
John! I’ve been waiting so long for you guys to do a video on this aspect of the MantisX, but I really wish you’d shown and explained the spider chart graph of the holster draw analysis. I still haven’t figured that out
I was trained by a US Marshal to shoot on the balls of my feet... just enough clearance under the heels to barely slide a sheet of paper. Helps focusing forward and moving if you have to.
So, @Jaronius, Adam Winch here. That shift forward is a product of several things. 1. I'm naturally aggressive; almost every fight I got into, whether hands on or with a gun, I would naturally aggressively drive my body forward either towards my opponent(s), or forward into a real fighting stance or to explode forward in order to overwhelm them through sheer aggression. 2. It's also a product of prior training habits, which really isn't as efficient as it should be or that I'd like. During the taping of this video, I felt that drive forward and slightly up on my toes the last several times and was trying to remind myself not to do so but then we ended the videoing before I could get a solid draw stroke without doing so. Last year at the ASP Bullets & Bibles National Conference in KS, John and another trainer coached me not to so. When my stanch was stayed solid, I found my draw stroke improved by several tenths of a second just right there, as I wasn't also fighting another moving axis of my body. Apparently, I haven't fully killed off that engrained habit yet - as seen here - so one more area to work on for me as I keep working towards improvement. Good catch. Chris Griese also noted the same thing you did so he and I talked about it by phone this morning.
@@defenders-usa that's some good info. I'm always amazed how all the body mechanics add up to a shot. I've been working so hard on moving as little as possible during the draw especially my shoulder. I have long arms and a high waist which makes for a draw that is all bicep and forearm. I've never thought about my feet beyond how far apart they are.
Is there anywhere that explains the visual representation of the holster draw path visualizer? Edit, nevermind it's here if anyone else is looking ruclips.net/video/ibE2BoAzLg0/видео.html
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The holster draw analysis has made a world a difference for me. It has allowed me to track my progress and do what John told me to do.
Same here. The Mantis is more accurate that any other method I can think of. In a few days, I went from 1.7ish to sub 1 second draw. The best combo of draw speed to accuracy for me is 1.1-1.2 seconds. If anyone is on the fence about buying the MantisX, DO IT!
Which Mantis X system does it come in, what model ?
@@velvia1961 X10
So very cool to see friends growing and learning. Adam is a super knowledgeable and skillful guy, so this shows me that if he is continually finding new ways to improve, we ALL can! Pairing work like this with Brian Hill's excellent insights into practice (like the different types of ways to get to the gun and get it out of the holster) and it feels like I have my own 1-on-1 session with some of the best teachers & coaches in the nation! Thanks John & Adam!
Thank you, my friend. Always a learner.
Love my Mantis X10! Using this version for dry fire holster practice. It is almost magical the way this thing knows what you are doing!
My Dry Fire setup consists of the Mantis X10 with the app in Holster Draw Analysis mode running on an iPad, and the Mantis Laser Academy app on an iPhone with the 1/3-sized IDPA target. The Mantis app provides me with timing and draw analysis, and the Laser Academy app records the hits. I usually keep 98 to 99% of the hits in the - 0 zone. My most obvious area where I can improve is also getting the shot off after getting the dot on target -- I'm not consistent in prepping the trigger properly.
I believe that Dry Fire has become far more common with COVID keeping people at home more, and the outrageous ammo prices. I'd love to see some statistics from the Mantis guys on how many Live Fire vs. Dry Fire shots their customers have done over the last 24 months. John, you have connections -- could you check? I think that would make for an interesting ASPE video.
I love holster draw analysis. I’ve been working on this for over a month now and my efficiency is increasing; all thanks to this.
Great job!
I prefer the “universal” Mantis adapter plate that just sticky tapes on and I add superglue in place on any brand magazine. You don’t have to take base plate off and keep track of it. Have it on several different models and never comes loose unless I want it to.
This was amazing to watch, active self protection. You rock keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
@@ASPextra been watching for over a year now, I live in Canada so rules allot different here but, love what yall do makes me more of a awar defender!
I finally took the plunge and ordered one. It should be here Wednesday.
John Im not sure if anyone else caught it but when he goes to shoot, watch the back of his legs....he rising up on the balls of his feet. Something that he may want to watch for in future training. Not saying anything negative at all about the shooter, just that its the fine details that make big results especially at distance.
This is the best ASP-extra Period. So fun and educational!
Awesome, actually improved in just a few draws
Amazing when you see what the time waster is!
I started to use this and went from a 3 second concealed drawn to a 1.28 second with a zone hit
Great progress!!
@@ASPextra thanks. The compresses surprise break drill i still get pass on advanced. That two 95 great shots is hard to get lol
@@soup31314 Keep working on it and you will get there!
@@MantisX one issue i have come across is i will draw and fire but the mantis won’t pick it up. I ise the laser app one device and the mantis x on other. The laser records 68 hits but the mantis x only picks up 50 draws.
@@soup31314 Please send us an email to support@mantisx.com and we are happy to look into that for you.
Great content JC! Love the Mantis X10 and your tutorials are awesome!
💯🔫🎯👍🏼👊🏼
As always a great video I am working on the draw in dry fire my question should you start with a slower draw and on target then slowly speed up. I worry if I try to start to fast I may be ingraining bad habits Thank you
I own a MantisX. Holster draw is most of what I do with it.
John! I’ve been waiting so long for you guys to do a video on this aspect of the MantisX, but I really wish you’d shown and explained the spider chart graph of the holster draw analysis. I still haven’t figured that out
Coming soon!
@@ASPextra thanks a million!!!!!!!
How much are you paying attention to the hits when your doing this type of work? Are you just focusing on speed for that particular drill?
Without the hits, the rest doesn’t matter. I (Adam Winch) and John both were focused on the right hits.
I've got a mantis and I practice. I see that others use this holster draw analysis, but it's not in my list of courses. How do I get it? Please, help!
Do you have the X10? That's what it works with.
Who downvotes videos like these? 🤦♂️
So when is there going to be a give away 😅😅
Good job John like always 👍
When I first got the mantis it showed my average as 3.2 now its 1.9 seconds, also I noticed he lifts his ankles when he fires
I noticed that too. He gets up on his toes trying to go faster and faster. His early shots he kept a stable stance.
how do you learn listen beginning of the beep
Quickly ;)
Good question...all I'm doing is trying to explode on the B of the Beep....
I always say to myself “snatch” the gun from holster. That seems to get my draw really moving fast.
I prefer "stab" but I get what you're doing! :)
Did anyone notice that he would shift his weight to the balls of his feet when breaks the shot? Is that stress or a technique?
I was trained by a US Marshal to shoot on the balls of my feet... just enough clearance under the heels to barely slide a sheet of paper. Helps focusing forward and moving if you have to.
@@benb5960 as should be also a boxers stance. from what I heard and read
So, @Jaronius, Adam Winch here. That shift forward is a product of several things. 1. I'm naturally aggressive; almost every fight I got into, whether hands on or with a gun, I would naturally aggressively drive my body forward either towards my opponent(s), or forward into a real fighting stance or to explode forward in order to overwhelm them through sheer aggression. 2. It's also a product of prior training habits, which really isn't as efficient as it should be or that I'd like.
During the taping of this video, I felt that drive forward and slightly up on my toes the last several times and was trying to remind myself not to do so but then we ended the videoing before I could get a solid draw stroke without doing so.
Last year at the ASP Bullets & Bibles National Conference in KS, John and another trainer coached me not to so. When my stanch was stayed solid, I found my draw stroke improved by several tenths of a second just right there, as I wasn't also fighting another moving axis of my body. Apparently, I haven't fully killed off that engrained habit yet - as seen here - so one more area to work on for me as I keep working towards improvement.
Good catch. Chris Griese also noted the same thing you did so he and I talked about it by phone this morning.
@@battlegroundone true. I like the idea of a natural, neutral fighting stance, when possible.
@@defenders-usa that's some good info. I'm always amazed how all the body mechanics add up to a shot. I've been working so hard on moving as little as possible during the draw especially my shoulder. I have long arms and a high waist which makes for a draw that is all bicep and forearm. I've never thought about my feet beyond how far apart they are.
Is there anywhere that explains the visual representation of the holster draw path visualizer?
Edit, nevermind it's here if anyone else is looking
ruclips.net/video/ibE2BoAzLg0/видео.html
That dude needs to keep his feet on the ground and mantain balance, not rise up like he's taking off.
As a Gabe White turbo pin holder, I think he can do whatever he wants to with his feet. ;)