The Lego Movie: Communist Propaganda

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  • @maxmunich
    @maxmunich  2 месяца назад +4655

    a special one, with heart of red

    • @someriversong1793
      @someriversong1793 2 месяца назад +69

      Undertale reference?

    • @Flowermations
      @Flowermations 2 месяца назад +37

      More like: A special one, with a heart of yellow (yes, that is a Balls Undertale Clover reference from the hit fangame Undertale Yellow)

    • @nicjo_
      @nicjo_ 2 месяца назад +7

      idk what to put here

    • @Drag0n_k
      @Drag0n_k 2 месяца назад +16

      toby fox??!!?1!?!?!?11?!!?1?!

    • @Everettalla
      @Everettalla 2 месяца назад +1

      What a bunch-a hippy, dippy, baloney

  • @mangoeater6919
    @mangoeater6919 2 месяца назад +2259

    Took this man 9 minutes to put lego movie and Adolf Hitler in the same video

    • @eges72
      @eges72 Месяц назад +72

      I now understand why Lego movie goes around my head almost always when I read about Marxist theory and history of anti-communism.

    • @GoldBean2752
      @GoldBean2752 21 день назад +19

      and ten for ben shapiro.

    • @Critic115
      @Critic115 8 дней назад +7

      Isn't that an Internet rule? About bringing up AH in any topic

  • @philismenko
    @philismenko 2 месяца назад +14235

    Fun fact: octan has been a fake lego brand since 1992

    • @MemezuiiSangkanskje
      @MemezuiiSangkanskje 2 месяца назад +672

      It's also in one of the oldest lego games, Lego Island (although it isn't really important, just the logos are there like the actual stickers)

    • @duckface81
      @duckface81 2 месяца назад +465

      before octan there was shell, im happy that they switched to a fictional brand

    • @danksheev66
      @danksheev66 2 месяца назад +175

      Yeah it suits the whole legos sets rarely have more than like two corporations as an in-universe explanation for the monopolism dynamic.

    • @goonishereva
      @goonishereva 2 месяца назад +193

      I was so unbelievably shocked to see the Octan logo on a Lego City set after seeing the movie, then to realize it was always there. Felt like discovering the Illuminati or something

    • @jinxinx0128
      @jinxinx0128 2 месяца назад +54

      Protogen Spotted.
      Must. Not. Boop.

  • @SOSTOL_CAT
    @SOSTOL_CAT 2 месяца назад +2819

    - The power of heterosexuality
    - The power of misogyny
    - The power of autism
    These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect movie. But LEGO accidentaly added an extra ingredient to the movie:
    - The power to turn hearts and minds towards sympathetic ends

    • @balls9420
      @balls9420 2 месяца назад +33

      Its like the fucking infinity stones.

    • @JohanBautista-fm9xy
      @JohanBautista-fm9xy 2 месяца назад +59

      But turns out
      I'm ALL of them

    • @zixvirzjghamn737
      @zixvirzjghamn737 Месяц назад +21

      yep, romance, with drama, and weird stuff, = perfect movie

    • @bugs.012
      @bugs.012 Месяц назад +47

      "until they were met with an even bigger threat
      women"

    • @lordshrek2502
      @lordshrek2502 Месяц назад +3

      the power of socialism

  • @reecerinehart8419
    @reecerinehart8419 2 месяца назад +1064

    "Thankfully they are prevented from being sent to room 101 through the power of Heterosexuality"
    Absolutely Banger line

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Месяц назад

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    • @Arquis_
      @Arquis_ Месяц назад +12

      Literally 1984

    • @user-jg4bm2oe6d
      @user-jg4bm2oe6d 6 дней назад

      Help I read this as they said it

  • @legendman5934
    @legendman5934 2 месяца назад +12287

    “Benny gets everyone back to bricksburg with the power of autism.”
    There is nothing else beyond this point. All else is irrelevant in the face of true comedy.

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 2 месяца назад

      Benny is the final form of autism

    • @glowdonk
      @glowdonk 2 месяца назад +470

      Benny is my favorite character BECAUSE of that hyperfixation of his

    • @SolunaStarlight
      @SolunaStarlight 2 месяца назад +306

      Never underestimate the power of your special interests

    • @sglenny001
      @sglenny001 2 месяца назад +29

      Ideed

    • @genevivehuber7786
      @genevivehuber7786 2 месяца назад +165

      @@glowdonk What’s even funnier to me is my special interests involve space too. I felt really connected to bennys character as a kid lmfao

  • @phantasmagoricmichl4209
    @phantasmagoricmichl4209 2 месяца назад +7419

    Barbie had 3 times the budget, 10 years of hindsight, and 1 times the Will Ferrell

    • @retrotaco11
      @retrotaco11 2 месяца назад +1265

      If I had a nickel for everytime Will Ferrell stared in a film that invokes existential thought that’s also based on a toy franchise, I’d have two nickels
      Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice

    • @lChaseMouse
      @lChaseMouse 2 месяца назад +108

      In his later career I cant stand him. Possibly Ive grown or he simply doesn’t have the same impact he used to. Barbie, Homes and Watson, The House. All giga shit performance

    • @breadcrust4006
      @breadcrust4006 2 месяца назад +53

      @@lChaseMouseoh! Interesting take

    • @joshuahughes8336
      @joshuahughes8336 2 месяца назад +15

      ​@@retrotaco11 I fucking love that show

    • @guywith_dog
      @guywith_dog 2 месяца назад +18

      0.5 times the will ferrell

  • @sobanoodles4286
    @sobanoodles4286 2 месяца назад +358

    A bad kids movie has no deeper message for its story
    a good kids movie has a deeper message that older watchers can get
    and a great kids movie can tell that message in a way that even young kids can understand without sacrificing quality, that's what the lego movie is
    I loved the movie many years ago, and even though I wasn't very old, it managed to still get its point across while still being an amazing movie, even if I maybe didn't know all the terms and whatnot
    like I wouldn't say it told me "Communism is good and any other economy is bad", but it at least told me the message that capitalism isn't perfect by any means and that corporations aren't selfless entities but are more often then not some level of evil

    • @asketporwal
      @asketporwal Месяц назад +5

      Reminds me of Kung Fu Panda

  • @joshuawhyte2638
    @joshuawhyte2638 Месяц назад +334

    "Don't know what the fuck is up with the dude throwing the tomohawk"
    It's a dude. Throwing a tomohawk. In an old timey saloon.
    "Cowboy and Indian" lego sets were numerous.

    • @Fellow-computer-nerd
      @Fellow-computer-nerd 28 дней назад +11

      @blackcontentcreator this isn't about history in any way, this is about modern life, so his lack of knowledge of history which you didn't explain means absolutely nothing.

    • @lividlife213
      @lividlife213 13 дней назад +2

      ​@@Fellow-computer-nerdwhile i agree with what you're saying here. He does bring up history at multiple different times in the video for the sake of his point.

  • @aidansmith3821
    @aidansmith3821 2 месяца назад +4747

    "This is how cops are made in real life" had me dying

    • @maxmunich
      @maxmunich  2 месяца назад +609

      so glad someone liked that one

    • @void-creature
      @void-creature 2 месяца назад +385

      It's true, you never see cops with a second face on the back of their heads, it gets removed during training 😔

    • @Prophet_of_Colour
      @Prophet_of_Colour 2 месяца назад +69

      @@maxmunich More than you think. Great joke.

    • @kazakhstanobamarunesports1350
      @kazakhstanobamarunesports1350 2 месяца назад +1

      same

    • @oishi_sammich4542
      @oishi_sammich4542 2 месяца назад +32

      I thought It was a genuine metaphor for how people have their humanity essentially erased through the training process

  • @hotpocketsat2am
    @hotpocketsat2am 2 месяца назад +5880

    as an autistic guy, i can confirm we become incomprehensible when allowed to engage in our hyperfixations

    • @toxi101yt5
      @toxi101yt5 2 месяца назад +261

      Idk if every autistic person also has these but i get hyper fixations in specific things for a bit of time before moving on to the next interesting thing
      The Lego movie being released at the same time as my “space” phase definitely made him my favorite character

    • @Pickle_Candy
      @Pickle_Candy 2 месяца назад +111

      ​@@toxi101yt5 I get the same thing, I go through "phases" I always thought it had something to do with the fact that I also have ADHD.

    • @tobyandahalf
      @tobyandahalf 2 месяца назад +42

      sometimes i play genshin so hard that i have to get up and jump around the room. same with subnautica when i get the fear-of-deep-spaces jitters

    • @Salvacottontail
      @Salvacottontail 2 месяца назад +38

      As another autistic rabbit uh
      Yeah can confirm I go utterly silent when I do my trains

    • @endervoir
      @endervoir 2 месяца назад +24

      one glimpse of a rotary phone and it's so joever for me i will simply go wacky

  • @Atoll-ok1zm
    @Atoll-ok1zm Месяц назад +265

    The piece of resistance is clearly a metaphor for reading theory, as it tends to make it difficult to move thanks to a massive protrusion from your body.

  • @ultimate_pleb
    @ultimate_pleb 2 месяца назад +5202

    I love it when benny's like
    "it's spaceshipin' time"
    and spaceships over all those guys

    • @cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891
      @cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891 2 месяца назад +129

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    • @lakaboss9313
      @lakaboss9313 2 месяца назад +124

      @@cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891The dying breaths of your final braincell be like

    • @THE_CARBON
      @THE_CARBON 2 месяца назад +6

      Ksp lore

    • @cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891
      @cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891 2 месяца назад +41

      @@lakaboss9313 average reply in ohio ☠☠☠

    • @TheRealStikShady
      @TheRealStikShady 2 месяца назад +37

      This is actually pretty much how it goes in the movie, first time a comment like this was accurate

  • @quartz930
    @quartz930 2 месяца назад +1974

    remember when stalin built the double-decker couch? hundreds died....

    • @restofman6403
      @restofman6403 2 месяца назад +64

      I think that’s a folk tale by some random person who said he was the only person who lived through the couch of 47’

    • @thespiritofhoxhawell4413
      @thespiritofhoxhawell4413 2 месяца назад

      Can't forget the big communist bed made out of the flesh of siberians, poles and baltic nationalities
      Truly a horror of cummunism..

    • @Cascade7155
      @Cascade7155 2 месяца назад +142

      Communism couch incident 100 million dead

    • @tellanov
      @tellanov 2 месяца назад

      @@Cascade7155 100 gorbillion died when lord business ate the lego kulaks with his spoon

    • @rootigaroot9922
      @rootigaroot9922 2 месяца назад +15

      @@Cascade7155 *200

  • @heyheyitsjae2475
    @heyheyitsjae2475 2 месяца назад +101

    15:40 Funny thing that, Octan was not invented for this film. Octan is a fictional fuel company that's been popping up in just about every single LEGO product line since 1992. While originally just a stand in for when LEGO couldn't license the rights to Shell or the like, it since became a piece of crossover establishing iconography and branched out into businesses other than fossil fuels. When working on this film it was just obvious to the people working on it that they could use the already established megacorporation from the old toys and add some lore beyond a color scheme and logo.

  • @TastyChicker1L17
    @TastyChicker1L17 2 месяца назад +177

    ,,after everyone hugs and congratulates themselves on ending capitalism, we are immediately met with an even bigger threat, women"
    this killed me

  • @bingbong9104
    @bingbong9104 2 месяца назад +2685

    The unstoppable power of autism is something that I just have to use more regularly

    • @CherryThGreat
      @CherryThGreat 2 месяца назад +31

      LMFAO I AM STEALING THIS

    • @zafranorbian757
      @zafranorbian757 2 месяца назад +5

      Would like to upote but you currently have 1111 likes and I do not want to disturb this nice order.

    • @bingbong9104
      @bingbong9104 2 месяца назад

      @@zafranorbian757 you know how to respect the peace. ✌️

    • @clintonbehrends4659
      @clintonbehrends4659 2 месяца назад +14

      but isn't the power of autism balanced by the fact that it is hyper-specific?

    • @bingbong9104
      @bingbong9104 2 месяца назад +3

      @@clintonbehrends4659 hmmmm you got me there

  • @DrIncrdblyEvlFshFce
    @DrIncrdblyEvlFshFce 2 месяца назад +698

    the birds being not real in this film is a reference to the fact that birds aren't real irl

    • @pendremacherald6758
      @pendremacherald6758 2 месяца назад +31

      Who knew The Institute was watching them too?

    • @RestiveRecord10
      @RestiveRecord10 Месяц назад

      yeah because theyre goverment drones

    • @MeisterSchwabbo
      @MeisterSchwabbo Месяц назад

      Fallout 4 reference? Under a video about the lego movie... i love it!
      ​@@pendremacherald6758

    • @GeneralThiccins51
      @GeneralThiccins51 22 дня назад

      @@pendremacherald6758r/unexpectedfallout

    • @Thepeanutcollector
      @Thepeanutcollector 22 дня назад +3

      IF IT FLIES IT SPIES!!!

  • @Bananajosuke0
    @Bananajosuke0 Месяц назад +26

    “Oh, you like the Lego movie! What do you think is the best part of it?”
    “Well, I suppose it’s the subtle hints towards communism and the manifesto of ignorance being bliss, it very smartly hides this premise hidden within a silly funny story for kids. Speaking about the kids, the movie seems to make children aware of the differences between social classes and how the rich benefit off the poor, and how we should rise against our so-called ‘superiors’.”
    “…”
    “So why do you like it?”
    “…Lego funny”

  • @HaydenofEverything
    @HaydenofEverything 2 месяца назад +2401

    I think it's also really interesting how Emmett is completely oblivious to the redundancy of voting machines until he says it out loud, as if President Business is the only President there has ever been for quite some time.

    • @compassrose1466
      @compassrose1466 2 месяца назад +351

      I just realized this…oh my goodness. I got like “oh he’s voted cause his company makes the machines” but it just clicked in my brain that he’s been the ONLY one voted for who knows how long. Ironically, I find it more funny because it calls back to it being about the dad of the kid. The dad makes the rules so obviously he’s always be the one in charge when it comes to the legos LMAO

    • @commandercorl1544
      @commandercorl1544 2 месяца назад

      @@compassrose1466 Honestly, I think there's probably more candidates that people can vote for, but the voting machines rig them to all be in favor of President Business, just to give an illusion of choice.

    • @thorinpixelshield3951
      @thorinpixelshield3951 2 месяца назад +100

      @@compassrose1466 theres also a sign in the background of the Everything is awsome scene saying "I'm President, Because I said So" (or something to that effect) just adding to the beauty that is this film

    • @rjseditsandcleanytps
      @rjseditsandcleanytps 2 месяца назад +2

      ohhhhhhhhhhhh 😮

    • @Superricesticky
      @Superricesticky 2 месяца назад +2

      @@thorinpixelshield3951 you can see the poster your talking about in this video at 8:51

  • @Leggo_Waffle
    @Leggo_Waffle 2 месяца назад +1330

    Guys I have a theory!!!
    Octan: Began in 1992
    Cold War: ended in 1991

  • @theeyeflashwithoutabudget171
    @theeyeflashwithoutabudget171 2 месяца назад +26

    this title goes so hard like what do you MEAN taco Tuesday is included in a communist manifesto? thats crazy

  • @Mini_Knight17
    @Mini_Knight17 2 месяца назад +23

    11:00 "prevented from being sent to room 101 through the power of heterosexuality" why did that joke get me?

  • @dunsparcedm43
    @dunsparcedm43 2 месяца назад +2096

    When we were being taught about 1984 in highschool. At one point during analysis of the book I had an epiphany and I said out loud that the story, themes and messages in 1984 reminded me a lot of the LEGO movie. I then went back and rewatched the movie after finishing the book and it all made so much sense. The LEGO Movie is the true movie adaptation of 1984

    • @BovaClips
      @BovaClips 2 месяца назад +138

      I just read the book and now my RUclips is all like: "You want to see this fun video about the Lego Movie and communism!"
      In the beginning of the video I was thinking: "This sounds almost like 1984." And the direct reference at 7:34 was like: "See, it is like 1984"

    • @kaiwatson18
      @kaiwatson18 2 месяца назад

      Capitalism is productive communism is destructive

    • @TomfooleryOfTheTrolls
      @TomfooleryOfTheTrolls 2 месяца назад +72

      “Ignorance is strength
      Smiling is happiness
      Instruction is creativity”
      -President/Lord Business

    • @Precipiceofwind
      @Precipiceofwind 2 месяца назад

      1984 is a garbage attempt of piracy.

    • @lazarussevy2777
      @lazarussevy2777 2 месяца назад +47

      I hope, then, that you realize both the LEGO movie and 1984 are not communist propaganda but anti-communist, and that nothing described in here criticizes capitalism but the opposite.

  • @ghastlyghandi4301
    @ghastlyghandi4301 2 месяца назад +3196

    I can’t believe the goddamn Lego movie is the greatest piece of modern socialist media but I’m so glad it is

    • @mansb3528
      @mansb3528 2 месяца назад +177

      I know now why I turned out why I did, it’s because I watched this movie as a kid

    • @tinysneakybagel782
      @tinysneakybagel782 2 месяца назад +33

      The greatest piece of-not Robots from 2005? Not a A BUG’S LIFE??

    • @TMHLBPFan
      @TMHLBPFan 2 месяца назад +98

      I watched this a TON yet I'm still capitalist. I guess I just don't do starvation lol.

    • @Jaquavion36
      @Jaquavion36 2 месяца назад +246

      ​@@TMHLBPFan yes because socialism means that every one starves, no one starves under capitalism, no one ever, no one had ever starved under capitalism

    • @genevivehuber7786
      @genevivehuber7786 2 месяца назад

      @@TMHLBPFanhow in the WORLD can you confidently be a capitalist in the wake of late state capitalism??? Like dude look around you, this isn’t working and people ARE starving???

  • @That1Meme_
    @That1Meme_ 16 дней назад +7

    24:04 , “After, everyone hugs and congratulates themselves on ending capitalism, we are met with an even bigger threat, WOMEN”

  • @Nervete
    @Nervete Месяц назад +60

    You can be anti corporate and not communist. These things are barely in similar paradigms.

    • @thivjan3022
      @thivjan3022 Месяц назад +8

      How so? the communism fundementally is a socio-economic system based around workers owning the means of production instead of private individuals which is the foundational structure of corporations, if I misunderstood your point im sorry and would like it if you explain it to me

    • @calebrumsey4838
      @calebrumsey4838 Месяц назад +7

      @@thivjan3022I think he means anti extreme corporation

    • @Nervete
      @Nervete Месяц назад +25

      @@thivjan3022 What I'm saying is that something can be against mega-corporations and wage slaving without falling into the camp of communism because, while related, the two things do not need to interact (For example, there are plenty of communist nations WITH extremely powerful mega corporations, such as Vietnam and China. Though Communism often espouses anti-corporate sentiments, the reality is mega corporations and communist states co-exist in more of the communist nations than they don't). In the case of the Lego Movie, I think the original poster of this video essay missed the point that life is about living and pursuing happiness. It's a story about the virtue of creativity and playfulness, and has almost nothing even tangentially related to communism *except* that it is also against corporate corruption, (but I reiterate, that wasn't the point of the story. Lord Business is still a business tycoon at the end, he just isn't evil because he rediscovered the honest joys of life)

    • @Karl_Marx-der-Befreier
      @Karl_Marx-der-Befreier Месяц назад +5

      @@Nervete That's quite nonsensical since China is not actually communist exactly because they have company/capital owners and a significant bourgeoisie class. In countries that followed Marx' ideas of communism a little more like the USSR and Cuba, that did not exist or at least not in private, but in public hands. A lord business could exist in China because it isn't communist at all since the 1970s but not in countries that actually try to be communist.

    • @Nervete
      @Nervete Месяц назад +8

      @@Karl_Marx-der-Befreier Cuba has embraced private businesses too, so really all you're left with is North Korea. All that said, I have to ask if you read my comments. My point was exactly that Lord Business is still "in business" at the end, meaning that if this movie really was trying to be communist (I don't think it was), it did a poor job of it.
      Just let communism die in the shadows of history. There are better ways to care for the poor than centralizing all power into one source. It's an inevitable recipe for corruption.

  • @samsveryniceaccount9258
    @samsveryniceaccount9258 2 месяца назад +1244

    I used the lego movie in an eglish paper once in high school. I had to write about how fictional dictatorships relate to real world ones. I got a B

    • @ahuman9391
      @ahuman9391 2 месяца назад +153

      you got a B because you were right and to give you an A is to agree, people dont want to admit they've been brainwashed, people dont want to admit they are wrong

    • @Prororo
      @Prororo 2 месяца назад +23

      @@ahuman9391I think brainwashing would be seen as “too extreme” in today’s world
      That’s why a I think a better word to use is indoctrination

    • @ahuman9391
      @ahuman9391 2 месяца назад +61

      @@Prororo brain washing is the perfect word. Tell me when you hear the word "communism" I guess you have a negative connotation to the word, but "capitalism" you do not, unless you are educated this is how you see the world. Communism is bad, capitalism is good. But in reality it is quite the opposite. You see communism as bad because it goes directly against capitalism and the power that the rich get in this society, in a communist society it's classless, there are no rich, there are no poor, we are just people, humans. This is further backed with how we go to war with any country that tries to convert to communism, not because communism is bad but because the second there's a proper successful communist country we will ALL realize we've been lied to. Brainwashing is the perfect term

    • @bp42s56
      @bp42s56 2 месяца назад +58

      @@ahuman9391ngl i like the idea but his paper itself might have just been a B anyways

    • @ahuman9391
      @ahuman9391 2 месяца назад +13

      @@bp42s56 always a possibility, not given enough information to say otherwise and I always like finding a place to call out society terrible, the more that accept it now with be more accepting of a revolution in the future, even if their hatred isn't fully real, which yes, is propaganda, and yes, it's not good, but it's very useful

  • @Halfendymion
    @Halfendymion 2 месяца назад +997

    I wish you'd mentioned that Lord Business's cape is actually a giant red tie, like the one a businessman would wear

    • @maxmunich
      @maxmunich  2 месяца назад +242

      not something i'd noticed, good observation

    • @Envy_May
      @Envy_May Месяц назад +12

      I NEVER NOTICED THIS

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf Месяц назад +17

      more specifically the tie that the dad wears

    • @croissantlover1
      @croissantlover1 Месяц назад

      or agent 47

    • @Nemeia982
      @Nemeia982 Месяц назад

      his helmet is the knot of the tie

  • @garrettrinquest1605
    @garrettrinquest1605 Месяц назад +84

    I would way more argue that this story feels way more like 1984. Replace lord business with the government there and violla, Lego movie.
    It is certainly about individualism, but that stands in stark contrast to the ideas of communism.

    • @gruby_0924
      @gruby_0924 Месяц назад +16

      I'm not sure how he was able to bunch up Communism, Individualism, and a little bit of Facism. All three of those ideologies are like the extreme opposite to eachother in most ways. I also felt like he was trying to review the lego movie than proving his points. It was however a solid review.

    • @SideQuestStories
      @SideQuestStories Месяц назад +13

      @@gruby_0924 Communism and fascism are basically the same thing, the latter was just a competitive reaction to the former.

    • @deathisdead270
      @deathisdead270 Месяц назад

      @@SideQuestStories uh, no, wtf are you talking about.
      “a socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need. A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes, and ultimately money and the state (or nation state).”
      VS
      “a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and/or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.”
      They could not be much more opposed

    • @TheX-Philes
      @TheX-Philes Месяц назад +9

      @@SideQuestStories In theory communism isn't like fascism, but in practice that's what always happens

    • @slug3982
      @slug3982 Месяц назад

      @@SideQuestStories Smartest centrist. everyone how disagrees with me is literally a fascism

  • @noutwf
    @noutwf 2 месяца назад +29

    Aren’t most of these arguments for it being anarchist propaganda?

    • @deathisdead270
      @deathisdead270 Месяц назад +14

      Communism and anarchism are very similar, both are societies without government.

    • @noutwf
      @noutwf Месяц назад +17

      @@deathisdead270 not falling for the bait

    • @deathisdead270
      @deathisdead270 Месяц назад +6

      @@noutwf the bait?

    • @noutwf
      @noutwf Месяц назад +1

      @@deathisdead270 oh sorry I thought you were trying to provoke me with that statement. Communism has a very very active government that essentially aims to control society as much as possible.

    • @eges72
      @eges72 Месяц назад

      Both are more or less the same in definition; a stable, stateless, classless, and moneyless society under a decentralized order. At some point of this video he pokes fun about utopian socialism being unrealistic which as a commie I'll admit if we live in a "utopia" a tiny mistake would bring a catastrophe. If we did ever reach communism even, it's the societies responsibility to keep themselves afloat.

  • @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
    @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate 2 месяца назад +841

    I can't believe how long it took me to get the "security cameras, all history books, voting machines... Wait a minute-" joke. I never got it till I was like 17

    • @ZealousWins
      @ZealousWins Месяц назад +49

      I guess when we were younger, we were never taught about despotic rule, or anything in-depth about governance or power. I ended up teaching myself quite a bit when I got older, and my brain also developed enough to form these connections more easily.

    • @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
      @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate Месяц назад +49

      I could see that Octan was a massive corporation working with a corrupt government to do bad things, but I didn't get the significance of the items listed.

    • @ZealousWins
      @ZealousWins Месяц назад +26

      @@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate Exactly! That's what I thought too. I was stuck in a basic, child's mindset of "red team bad, blue team good", so I did not understand the following things.

    • @JamesTDG
      @JamesTDG Месяц назад +9

      Yeah, when you notice the problems with modern society, you'll understand a lot more of the deeper jokes within some of these films.

    • @thefishtrain2
      @thefishtrain2 Месяц назад +2

      I'm cryinf i realized when I was like 10 or 9😭😭

  • @retro_roy5591
    @retro_roy5591 2 месяца назад +589

    chris pratt voicing the most regular guy in the world makes s much sense

    • @fredlin481
      @fredlin481 2 месяца назад +41

      Only gets truer the more movies they decide to shove him into

    • @user-jj9qd9bi8c
      @user-jj9qd9bi8c 2 месяца назад +8

      It’s a me. Mario.

    • @doiszucar3515
      @doiszucar3515 2 месяца назад +11

      ​​@@user-jj9qd9bi8c not Mario, *A Mario*

    • @harrisontownsend910
      @harrisontownsend910 2 месяца назад +7

      Normally, I hate hate Chris Pratt's roles placements but I actually like his acting in this movements.

  • @magicalawnmower4764
    @magicalawnmower4764 10 дней назад +4

    it's funny how a film that has a socialist/anti-capitalist message was used as a way to sell more material goods via themed sets

  • @BattyBest
    @BattyBest Месяц назад +47

    I'd say instead of communist the movie is more just general anti-authoritarian. "Lord Business" is also functioning as the state, and Libertarians and Socialists agree- Corporatocracy is shit. (The point they disagree on is that Libertarians think less government will solve the Corporatocracy conundrum while Socialists think more government will solve the problem)

    • @crzychill7623
      @crzychill7623 Месяц назад +1

      Correction, socialist think workers owning the means of production is what will solve the issue. Socialist don't like big government at all.

    • @JN-so6wt
      @JN-so6wt 22 дня назад +13

      so you're just the "socialism is when the government does stuff" meme but an actual person huh

    • @BattyBest
      @BattyBest 21 день назад +12

      @@JN-so6wt Socialism is when the collective as a whole decides allocation of resources rather than the individuals participating in the collective deciding for themselves, which is capitalism. For big nations, the only reasonable solution that wont involve asking each and every person every economic issue in the population census is having government regulation decided through democracy.
      So, Socialism CAN not be when the gov does stuff, but it often works out to that, just due to the fault of how the current system works.

    • @LorenzoNivellini-wz6wh
      @LorenzoNivellini-wz6wh 7 дней назад +2

      True. A lot of the way maxmunich descirbed things also seemed more anti-government and anti-corporation rather than pro-communism. Not a bad message🙂.

    • @QTwoSix
      @QTwoSix 6 дней назад

      ​@@JN-so6wtis it not though?

  • @theseus0467
    @theseus0467 2 месяца назад +453

    Also I would like to point out that, because of the timer at the end of the movie, we know that *Mississippi is canonically a real place in the Lego world.*

    • @memerminecraft585
      @memerminecraft585 2 месяца назад +51

      I figured it's a time measurement in the Lego world and is just an import from the real world, since there are real people in the movie

    • @theseus0467
      @theseus0467 2 месяца назад +13

      @@memerminecraft585 I mean Idk how they'd import concepts when other concepts which Lego people haven't discovered are completely unknown.

    • @heyoyo10gaming4
      @heyoyo10gaming4 2 месяца назад +18

      The location of Middle Zealand implies both a knowledge of New Zealand and its connection to Middle Earth

    • @birdmcturd1626
      @birdmcturd1626 2 месяца назад +5

      @@theseus0467The kid is imagining all this (for the most part,I’m looking at you scene where Emmet moves on his own in the real world) so we can assume that’s how it got imported

  • @airbound1779
    @airbound1779 2 месяца назад +823

    "Comrade there's political dissonance in Lego Utopia"
    👮‍♂"Heeeeeyyyyy!"
    "Build the Gulag"
    "Round up the enemies of the proletariat and give them a pickaxe!"

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 2 месяца назад +41

      I cant tell if this is Anti Leninist or not💀💀

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 2 месяца назад +28

      While I disagree with your likely political leanings this comment is hilarious

    • @thegreatsallingerkaiser2545
      @thegreatsallingerkaiser2545 2 месяца назад +36

      @@anitaremenarova6662 wdym, it's a sarcastic joke, ofc it's not to be taken seriously lol

    • @mickvd4
      @mickvd4 Месяц назад

      ☝️🤓

    • @ChunkSchuldinga
      @ChunkSchuldinga Месяц назад +2

      ​@@aturchomicz821The answer is yes.

  • @realcirno1750
    @realcirno1750 2 месяца назад +5

    its just anti-conformity

  • @overforker2623
    @overforker2623 2 месяца назад +6

    I might be on crack, but I’d argue that at a certain point “capitalism” becomes “corporatism” and corporatism is closer to communism due to both being a form of collectivism in which people exist as a resource to a singular entity at the top, specifically the state. (extra points if the corporations own the state)

    • @amazin7006
      @amazin7006 2 месяца назад +1

      Corporatism is a political system, it has nothing to do with either economic system. You can have a corporate socialism and a corporate capitalism. Look up Mussolini's style of corporatism which was a full integration of all classes into "cooperative" groups.

    • @overforker2623
      @overforker2623 2 месяца назад

      @@amazin7006 will do, thank you

  • @cycloid2326
    @cycloid2326 2 месяца назад +618

    Honestly I think Benny’s representation of autistic hyper-fixation goes even deeper. Every time he says “spaceship!” but especially when he says it repeatedly when he actually gets to build and use one, I interpret it as him spouting out lots of technical terms and lingo, but since none of it registers with anyone else they just perceive it as him saying “spaceship!”
    Credentials: Have had many an autistic ramble myself that makes no sense to the average person.

    • @IVWRYMUCHLIKEMUSIC
      @IVWRYMUCHLIKEMUSIC 2 месяца назад +20

      I love that

    • @Thegoldenaerobar2
      @Thegoldenaerobar2 2 месяца назад +16

      What my friends hear when i talk about hoi4

    • @deepspacecow2644
      @deepspacecow2644 2 месяца назад +17

      Not autistic, but start foaming at the mouth any time I find any interesting telecom infrastructure. This is probably how people see me go on about bands and mimo, and microwaves lol.

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 2 месяца назад +8

      He was never confirmed, therefore all you get out of him is a cartoony caricature of a space obsession. Reminds me of Benedict Cumberbatch ranting about his portrayal of ASD characters (Turing, Sherlock).
      He researched his Frankenstein scientist role for a stage play and had this to say: “I went to schools and met people, some of whom are very high functioning on the autistic spectrum. I met a 17-year-old who had the mental age of a one and a half year old. Everything was just about bodily functions. Smell. Sexual arousal. Shitting. Whatever. So when I hear people use diagnostic labels casually - Sherlock is autistic, Turing is autistic - it really upsets me.”

    • @cycloid2326
      @cycloid2326 2 месяца назад +25

      @@scrittle What’s wrong with noting the very autism-coded attributes of a character? If anything, Benny is a breath of fresh air compared to the horrible representation that autistic people (myself included) have to put up with. It’s nice to see a clearly autistic-coded character that isn’t just a bunch of stereotypes thrown together.

  • @Xukkus
    @Xukkus 2 месяца назад +1108

    22:02 "Benny gets everyone back to BricksBurg with the unstoppable power of autism." I'm dead 😭

    • @gmandunn
      @gmandunn 2 месяца назад +24

      as a wild autisticm, i can agree

  • @metaphysicalretardation
    @metaphysicalretardation Месяц назад +89

    I am genuinely unable to tell if this is a critique of fascism, communism, capitalism or all authoritarianism all at once.

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf Месяц назад +45

      i think we communists tend to get stuck on interpreting every portrayal of authoritarianism as capitalism or fascism, but the lego movie is pretty clearly anti-corporate, so i think this interpretation is justified.

    • @SideQuestStories
      @SideQuestStories Месяц назад +14

      @@st0lf Of course you would, it's not like there's ever been terrible authoritarian communism

    • @secondlieutenan
      @secondlieutenan Месяц назад +1

      tbh we should go back to tribe ideology lol

    • @erikacanopener
      @erikacanopener Месяц назад +1

      It's undoubtedly anarchist in nature

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf Месяц назад +12

      @@SideQuestStories i mean this is part of why we have this bias. We see how previous attempts relied on authoritarianism and caused a lot of suffering. Analysing them thoroughly and critically is an important part of modern socialist ideas. There are those among us who do support for example the Stalinist/marxist-leninist idea of communism, but also those who fundamentally oppose this.

  • @tessa5329
    @tessa5329 6 дней назад +2

    "After defeating capitalism, they had to face an even bigger threat- women" had me rolling

  • @thenormalguy8244
    @thenormalguy8244 7 дней назад +3

    When this movie came out, I bought it on blu ray. I think I was 11 at the time and we were moving. So what I did for 4 days, 8 hours each day during the car ride was watch the Lego movie. I kid you not I probably watched it 30 consecutive times. I literally memorized it, unfortunately I don’t still have it memorized but it has been so ingrained into my mind that I can describe the entire movie beginning to end.

  • @foxpokemonforever4775
    @foxpokemonforever4775 2 месяца назад +566

    I remember watching this in theatres, the movie hits the ground RUNNING with its comedy, the theatre was laughing out loud before our main character is even introduced.

  • @ravenm4890
    @ravenm4890 2 месяца назад +472

    when emmett is listing off all the things octan makes he lists music with a clear punk singer and band in the background something very anti capitalist becoming something a capitalist makes just something i noticed

    • @eduardog3000
      @eduardog3000 2 месяца назад +88

      “Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would *critique* capital end up *reinforcing* it instead.”
      Which has a double meaning here for both the corporate published punk music in universe, but also the movie itself.

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 2 месяца назад +4

      Sounds like you've never heard of the pop star conspiracy in South Korean.

    • @sp4c1ng_0ut8
      @sp4c1ng_0ut8 2 месяца назад +5

      The entire subculture of punk has been actively commoditized since its inception

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 2 месяца назад +13

      @@sp4c1ng_0ut8 The original punks died out, however the values live on. Punks modify copyrighted works for their own creative interests, it's argued the free modding scene is the result of punk mentality, like modelling a Thomas the Tank Engine and slipping it into any game.

    • @sp4c1ng_0ut8
      @sp4c1ng_0ut8 2 месяца назад +1

      @@scrittle fair enough

  • @elfrog9054
    @elfrog9054 28 дней назад +6

    So you said Vitruvius's death comes unexpectedly, however i think different. His death follows a very common part of the heroes Journey (a theory on how to build stories and is used pretty often in fantasy), when the protagonist loses the mentor. Vitruvius is literally a caricature of classic 'mentor 'type characters in movies eg. Dumbledore, Gandalf and Obi-wan. So really, the Lego movie is playing into another cliche by killing him off. It's just such a self aware movie and I love it.

    • @-Alarion
      @-Alarion 20 дней назад

      Also I love the detail that lord businnes quite literally kills him with his money, through cutting his head off with a coin. This also could interpreted as showing how the money gives him and the mega corporation the power to dominate everything.

  • @filiprandom
    @filiprandom 2 месяца назад +13

    Good review but title is misleading and I disagree that the movie critiques capitalism, as a single corporate entity is a monopoly, not a competetive market. The point of involving government in a "free" market is to avoid massive monopolies like octan portrays in the movie.
    It's against monopolistic corporatism but not capitalism.

    • @SkyForceOne2
      @SkyForceOne2 2 месяца назад +6

      capitalism will always, by its nature, lead towards an authoritarian structure

    • @crouton7070
      @crouton7070 2 месяца назад +13

      @@SkyForceOne2 and government totalitarianism wont?

    • @Scorchluck
      @Scorchluck 2 месяца назад

      @@crouton7070 The state is a mechanism of violence in the hands of the ruling class over the individual. These are Lenin's words. But you don't know this, because you are familiar with Marxism only from CIA pamphlets, which in turn were created with the help of former employees of the Propaganda Ministry of the Third Reich. It's easier for people to believe that large capitalists are lizard people than to read at least a couple of scientific papers on history.

    • @sylvatrass315
      @sylvatrass315 Месяц назад +2

      communism starts with the criticism of monopolistic capitalism.

    • @manatortv
      @manatortv Месяц назад +5

      But Capitalism always leads to monopoly. Always. A competitive market always leads to a winner and loser, and eventually, one or a small few of companies win over everyone else. Monopolistic corporatism is just capitalism working as designed

  • @Pedestal_Prime
    @Pedestal_Prime 2 месяца назад +1210

    I'll give this, the anti democratic title got my attention. Now it's getting my ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

    • @Fishnuke14
      @Fishnuke14 2 месяца назад +85

      A true patriot

    • @Bananamanmk53-yv2ph
      @Bananamanmk53-yv2ph 2 месяца назад +100

      This must be the work of the Automatons. We've got another Major order.

    • @watch_foxFX
      @watch_foxFX 2 месяца назад +37

      HELLDIVERS 2 REFERENCE SPOTTED

    • @thesithofearth3617
      @thesithofearth3617 2 месяца назад +66

      Doesn't have enough aoe, gonna use ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️

    • @Magosspud
      @Magosspud 2 месяца назад +17

      Helldivers is everwhere. Keep spreading patriotism men

  • @susengineer5767
    @susengineer5767 2 месяца назад +208

    "after everyone hugs and congratulates themselves on ending capitalism, we are immediately met with an even bigger threat. wome-"

  • @QuickStessi
    @QuickStessi 2 месяца назад +23

    I wouldn't call this movie communist. I would call it anti authoritarian and anti monopoly.

    • @foxybohv7732
      @foxybohv7732 Месяц назад +7

      So, the movie isn't communist, but instead, anti capitalist? No way

    • @Okami400
      @Okami400 Месяц назад

      ​@@foxybohv7732 capitalism is anti monopoly and anti authoritarian lol, it promotes comptetition that only benefits the consumer. where as communism is full on authoritarian. No competition, everything is owned by the state and dispersed.

    • @Rhinlord
      @Rhinlord Месяц назад +4

      ​@@foxybohv7732 its anti-facist, not anti-capitalist. Lord Business isnt a capitalist

    • @foxybohv7732
      @foxybohv7732 Месяц назад +4

      @@Rhinlord it's not anything like actual fascism. It's just what the end goal is of real capitalism

    • @Rhinlord
      @Rhinlord Месяц назад +2

      @@foxybohv7732 you don't understand capitalism

  • @MightyElemental
    @MightyElemental Месяц назад +10

    I can't tell if this is satire or if it's a deadly serious interpretation of this film.
    Either way, the message of "everyone is special. everyone is unique. use your imagination to create things" is inherently anti-communist. Communism has always suppressed any individuality. Everyone is forced to become a cog in the state machine. You aren't allowed individual creativity because if you made anything worthwhile, you'd be seen as an enemy of the state for trying to subvert party messaging or for trying to enhance your own position at the cost of the people. It's genuinely the most evil method of governance.

    • @saladsnack
      @saladsnack Месяц назад +4

      gj being brainwashed

    • @SoberCake
      @SoberCake Месяц назад +2

      @@saladsnack silence, commie

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf Месяц назад +10

      What you are describing is authoritarianism. Most authoritarian states enforce conformity and while historically, almost all attempts at achieving communism have been very authoritarian, so has nearly every other state. The high degree of individuality we are used to in the west are more of a libertarian thing than a capitalist thing. As a matter of fact, corporations, the very embodiment of capitalism, very commonly strip their employees of their individuality, by enforcing uniforms and dress codes.
      To base your understanding of todays communist ideas on regimes that don't exist anymore is a very conservative approach. We are not trying to go back to some mythical time when things were good, we are trying to do better going forward.

    • @st0lf
      @st0lf Месяц назад +6

      @@Fwoppy808 you also can't enforce property without authority. Or law of any kind. Welcome to the wonderful world of anarcho-communist make believe.
      Let's just minimize hierarchies as far as we can without cutting into personal liberty, eh? That sounds pretty 'anti-authoritarian' to me.

    • @A_Dog_You_Know
      @A_Dog_You_Know Месяц назад +2

      @@st0lf Communism tends to work on smaller scales, like in areas where everyone is on the same page. But in a massive society with different groups of people and differing ideologies, its just not practical. It never has been and never will be unless you can hemogenize millions of people, in which is kind of ironic considering you mentioned dress codes. This is a good reason why authoritarians try to unify and enforce under socialistic practices. I think your dress code point is a bit of a stretch anyways, considering you may choose to work for whoever you want, so long as you have capitol/something to offer in a capitolist system. It doesnt mean its a system that comes with downsides, but I prefer the individualism of capitolism than the conformity of socialism, if I had to choose. Although maybe a mixed economy most western economies have is not too bad either.

  • @justanicemelon9963
    @justanicemelon9963 2 месяца назад +218

    6:18 "his double-decker couch, his one original idea, only works with friends."
    *fu@# that is such a good little detail*
    seriously, the Lego Movie IS one of the best animated movies.

  • @cheebuu3360
    @cheebuu3360 2 месяца назад +327

    And we even got Lego Batman Movie out of this AND a fun musical sequel.

    • @thesoaringscepter4325
      @thesoaringscepter4325 2 месяца назад +15

      sadly also lego ninjago

    • @Averagemomrespecter
      @Averagemomrespecter 2 месяца назад +21

      Lego batman was s tier childhood movies

    • @thetoastnbutterpodcast64
      @thetoastnbutterpodcast64 2 месяца назад +14

      'Fun musical sequel' was shit same as ninjago movie (The others are great though)

    • @thesoaringscepter4325
      @thesoaringscepter4325 2 месяца назад +6

      @thetoastnbutterpodcast64 debatably

    • @cheebuu3360
      @cheebuu3360 2 месяца назад +6

      @thetoastnbutterpodcast64 yeah it wasn't as good as the first movie but I like the music!

  • @menmonstersmachines
    @menmonstersmachines 2 месяца назад +6

    You got all this from a movie about some dude wanting to glue his LEGO sets together?

  • @TheRealSamalam
    @TheRealSamalam 21 день назад +2

    english teacher when he pauses the movie:

  • @lisatroiani6119
    @lisatroiani6119 2 месяца назад +215

    14:22 to be fair, the prophecy does say “[…] this *master builder* […]”

    • @maxmunich
      @maxmunich  2 месяца назад +195

      fuck

    • @The_Distortionist_Waits
      @The_Distortionist_Waits 2 месяца назад +49

      ​@@maxmunich The only acceptable answer

    • @geoffdavids7647
      @geoffdavids7647 2 месяца назад +21

      It still works if the line was just changed to "Wildstyle assumes the Special must be a *stereotypical* master builder" 😋

    • @commandercorl1544
      @commandercorl1544 2 месяца назад +3

      @@maxmunich thanks for this thoughtful insight on this newfound information

    • @ohshiditsgriff2793
      @ohshiditsgriff2793 2 месяца назад +9

      He *is* a master builder! Not of actual lego pieces, but a builder of relationships and an integral part of the revolution.

  • @nintenprox4639
    @nintenprox4639 2 месяца назад +229

    I didn't expect hearing "Ferrellussy" in a video essay about communist lego media but it became infinitely better because of that

    • @divyankrana16
      @divyankrana16 2 месяца назад

      what does that word mean? I tried to search it on google; surprisingly no results.

    • @sus-kupp
      @sus-kupp Месяц назад

      ​@@divyankrana16 Ferrel + ussy
      Ferrel is the last name of the voice actor who played lord business
      I have no idea how to explain the meaning of ussy without triggering comment censorship but you can just google that part.

    • @AuroniRahman
      @AuroniRahman 22 дня назад

      @@divyankrana16 sus-kupp, dw about censorship, im risking it for the sake of education (listen here yt)
      anyways people just add on -ussy to the end of nouns, which includes people (like Will Ferell) to talk about.... doing the devils tango with it, sticking their 👉 in its 👌(those two particular hand emojis refer to intercourse, if u were wondering, so i hope you can extrapolate from that!) it's like a suffix that turns the noun into a variant of pussy (in the sexual way, not the cat way lol), making the subject a sex object really. its often humorous and lighthearted, when used as a bit of a gag for a shock response.
      so Ferrellussy is, well, referencing his 😺even though im pretty sure he doesn't have one. because hes a cisgender man.

  • @BeagleNBen
    @BeagleNBen 2 месяца назад +5

    I want more of this please

  • @xenotiic8356
    @xenotiic8356 Месяц назад

    I hope you make another video essay someday, the sheer lack of fluff was so heartening!

  • @wrigglenightbug8679
    @wrigglenightbug8679 2 месяца назад +277

    the algorithm that keeps me trapped in an endless cycle of media consumption cooked with this one

  • @Dipshit1900
    @Dipshit1900 2 месяца назад +88

    I think you weren’t trying to tell us this was about communism, you just wanted to talk about the best movie ever

  • @Voidsterrr
    @Voidsterrr 2 месяца назад +5

    future me is it satire?

    • @augustmancuso2272
      @augustmancuso2272 2 месяца назад +2

      Kind of

    • @Voidsterrr
      @Voidsterrr 2 месяца назад

      Mayhaps

    • @lukew6725
      @lukew6725 Месяц назад

      I don't know, what he's claiming is absolutely insane, but since I started frequenting the internet I've learned that there are some extremely stupid people out there.

  • @SaintGD360
    @SaintGD360 2 дня назад +1

    The usage of the colors red and purple in this movie are a metaphor for communism and how we as a society can only get better if we combine our ideas and collaborate. Hence purple equals the fusion of capitalism and communism

  • @sp4ce_explorer
    @sp4ce_explorer 2 месяца назад +155

    “Benny gets everyone back to Bricksburg with the unstoppable power of autism” (22:02)
    - Maxmunich 2024

  • @NeoBing
    @NeoBing 2 месяца назад +400

    This is an amazing breakdown of what made the Lego Movie just.. stand out from the rest. I’m definitely on board for more and I can’t wait to see what else you can do. Here’s to 100k soon, you’d deserve it.

    • @ironwill2
      @ironwill2 2 месяца назад +3

      Can't believe i got neobing jumpscared on accident.

    • @nan0wav
      @nan0wav 2 месяца назад +1

      Can't believe i got neobing jumpscared on accident.

    • @ibish9513
      @ibish9513 2 месяца назад +5

      why is this man jumpscaring people is he fnaf at freddies

    • @psy-fi64
      @psy-fi64 2 месяца назад

      NeoBing??? What the hell lmao

  • @denalinorsen6180
    @denalinorsen6180 9 дней назад +1

    "make children class conscious" is such a banger of a line

  • @DirtDev
    @DirtDev 2 месяца назад +2

    Bro where did this amazing video come from? This video is incredible and just a great job all-around!

  • @dylswerb7492
    @dylswerb7492 2 месяца назад +70

    There was absolutely no dead air in this video, big props for that

  • @ikeameatballs9743
    @ikeameatballs9743 Месяц назад +7

    “Be communist! (But buy our products)”

  • @ondrejsvehla425
    @ondrejsvehla425 2 месяца назад +418

    I wouldnt really think of lego movie as communist I would istead say that it certainly is anti authoritarian

    • @proleterriert8075
      @proleterriert8075 2 месяца назад +197

      Communist ideology believes in the idea of a classless and stateless society. Ergo meaning communism is an anti authoritarian ideology. You’re right in saying that it being an anti authoritarian movie doesn’t make in a communist movie. But apart from probably anarchism there isn’t really any other prolific ideology that is both anti authoritarian and is opposed to the mechanism of capital. Without the context of the movie as a whole you could say this was a libertarian movie, but liberalism and capitalism go hand in hand. That’s probably why he called it communist.

    • @Retsiger
      @Retsiger 2 месяца назад +16

      @@proleterriert8075amazing observation

    • @ondrejsvehla425
      @ondrejsvehla425 2 месяца назад +143

      @@proleterriert8075 You are correct if we are using ideal textbook definition of communism but in practice most (if not all) communist regimes are very authoritarian. Thats why I find the use of communism in this case a bit misleading. Calling the message of the film anarchist or anarchocommunist would be a lot more accurate in my opinion but I still stand behind anti-authoritarian as best descriptor as the critique of capitalism didnt seem as prominent to me and it could in my opinion be seen more as a critique of being forced/brainwashed to conform to societal norms.

    • @proleterriert8075
      @proleterriert8075 2 месяца назад +59

      @@ondrejsvehla425 I was actually going to talk about how the discussion was only applicable to communist theory and actual countries that call themselves communist obviously do not conform to the ideology completely. I removed that from my initial comment because I didn’t want to completely bore people with a wall of text so I shortened it just so I could make my point. in hindsight to me making my original comment I concede that you’re probably right in that this is more anarcho-communist than outright communism but I still stand by my point that this is still very much so a communist movie in its message

    • @ondrejsvehla425
      @ondrejsvehla425 2 месяца назад +18

      ​@@proleterriert8075the overall message shifts from just anti authoritarian depending on your interpretation of the beginning, where we see bricksburgs society, which is very subjective. That means there is sadly nothing more to debate about so fare well and may the force be with you.

  • @THEcoolestRIP
    @THEcoolestRIP 2 месяца назад +8

    Isn't it the other way around? Shouldn't the title be Capitalist Propaganda? The movie is all about 0 competition and 0 creativity/controlling government am i buggin?

    • @sinanyldz8913
      @sinanyldz8913 2 месяца назад +5

      That's what i'm saying!

    • @THEcoolestRIP
      @THEcoolestRIP 2 месяца назад +4

      @@sinanyldz8913 Right?

    • @nyctomint
      @nyctomint 2 месяца назад +1

      you're missing that the protagonist directly opposes this lack of creativity and the government

    • @sinanyldz8913
      @sinanyldz8913 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@nyctomintno, no one is missing that.

    • @nyctomint
      @nyctomint 2 месяца назад +1

      @@sinanyldz8913 uh huh. sure

  • @Its-Tim
    @Its-Tim Месяц назад +6

    I've just started the video but I have a hard time seeing this as communist propaganda because one of the major themes is individuality. Emmet goes from being a cog in the machine to being an individual. People who cannot be creative are looked down upon by master builders, and in the end, everyone becomes creative and it's viewed as good. Just because the film is denouncing the evils of capitalism, doesn't mean it's praising communism.
    After watching the video. I see the connections. The movie is very similar to 1984. I still think it's just using generic dystopian themes but they are themes often found in works critical of our capitalist or materalistic world so I can see the connection. I think the intention of the movie was to cultivate individualism and the autonomy to stand up and rebel against a system; which is a very American idea or at the very least not a very communist idea. Still, I really enjoyed the video and agreed with a lot of the points. Obviously this isn't meant to be taken too seriously so my fault if I made it seem like that.

  • @pendremacherald6758
    @pendremacherald6758 2 месяца назад +487

    Big issue: This isn’t a capitalist society. Everything is run by a single corporation. There is no free market. The society is endgame corporatism.

    • @ianush.
      @ianush. 2 месяца назад +144

      Honestly surprised you’re the only one in this comments section that has said that. This is an admitedly good video essay, but to call the entire movie in support of communism is missing the point entirely. When the corporation becomes what the state used to be, forces conformity and destroys competition, it just becomes the state. That’s not capitalism. I also don’t see how this is a critique of individualism; at the beginning we see conformity being pushed in a way that can only be compared to countries like the former Soviet Union, and the characters constantly needing instructions for everything is very, very similar to the society that came as a result of countries like the Soviet Union - braindead, with no critical thinking, constantly looking up for orders. The entire time I was thinking; okay, but, where is the capitalism that is being critiqued, exactly?

    • @void-creature
      @void-creature 2 месяца назад +23

      That is true, though at the same time a lot of the critique is still very applicable to free market capitalism in it's current stage

    • @ianush.
      @ianush. 2 месяца назад +41

      @@void-creature The stage we are currently in is not free market capitalism. *Free* market capitalism would have zero state intervention, but that is not the case. Today, we have a mix of state intervention and private businesses. In fact, it's hard to even pinpoint a time in history when the market even was fully free. The british got close to it in the 1850s, but ultimately, almost every market out there has had and continues to have some degree of state involvement.

    • @Ironmatt999
      @Ironmatt999 2 месяца назад +81

      Free market capitalism will always lead to one company owning everything

    • @pendremacherald6758
      @pendremacherald6758 2 месяца назад +15

      @@Ironmatt999 then the Free Market ceases to exist and the name no longer applies. How is that much different from the state owning everything anyhow?

  • @maltardraco9555
    @maltardraco9555 2 месяца назад +7

    It's only communist propaganda if you thought Emmett was the villain.

  • @wows2049
    @wows2049 2 месяца назад +26

    movie cant be communist, there are no famines or gulags

    • @croissantlover1
      @croissantlover1 Месяц назад

      or Stalin / Mao es as the main villain doesnt kill anybody?

    • @gametutorialsmk1688
      @gametutorialsmk1688 Месяц назад +2

      more slaves and people died under colonial powers such as france,british,american and more

    • @wows2049
      @wows2049 Месяц назад +2

      @@gametutorialsmk1688 I’m not saying they didn’t

  • @Heavy-TF2
    @Heavy-TF2 2 месяца назад +312

    >Modern dystopia that seems good on the surface until you realize what's really going on
    >Villain is a capitalist overlord AND capitalism itself in the real world
    >Main working class protagonist overthrows the capitalist villain and lives a happy life alongside everyone else
    >Perfect world where everything is quite literally awesome
    >"This is communist propaganda"
    >What did Max mean by this?

    • @joaojonito3764
      @joaojonito3764 2 месяца назад +1

      > The capitalist tyrants are overthrown just so that the power vaccum is filled by communist tyrants that instead of enslaving the workers(which is bad) completely ruin the nation with a failed ideology(which is also bad) and then a new capitalist regime takes over and then communist and then capitalost again and the cycle repeats itself until society colapses

    • @ItzJupiter
      @ItzJupiter 2 месяца назад

      Everything Is Propoganda

    • @peanuttm428
      @peanuttm428 2 месяца назад

      It shows an inherently non-capitalist society where no one works in the name of profit motive, the state and large businesses are so intertwined that the market is not free, it's not a free market society, then advocates for a collective focused style of life with no government.

    • @kaiwatson18
      @kaiwatson18 2 месяца назад

      But remember the second Lego movie is a communist world hell scape
      Communism promises everything but takes away the little things

    • @FatalFrostbyte29
      @FatalFrostbyte29 2 месяца назад +41

      >The next movie has the Utopia turn into an apocalypse

  • @isengarde9490
    @isengarde9490 2 месяца назад +112

    I'd like to point out something I only just now noticed.
    Benny builds the spaceship in the same amount of time it takes for the entire group of Master Builders to build the base of the sub. (Which was like maybe five seconds.)
    So, either Benny gets hopped up on meth levels of autistic stimming, or he's genuinely just *that* fast.

    • @broman-id5sy
      @broman-id5sy 2 месяца назад +27

      it's both

    • @mostcertainlyben
      @mostcertainlyben 2 месяца назад +10

      benny solos goku, easily /j

    • @cycloid2326
      @cycloid2326 2 месяца назад

      Can confirm, the power of autism lets you build Legos fast

  • @permahzz
    @permahzz 2 месяца назад +3

    One of the best movies ever made

  • @mainhalo117
    @mainhalo117 Месяц назад +24

    When did anti authoritarian and anti monopoly become pro communism??? Btw numerous examples of “anti capitalist” situations in this movie are common occurrences in communist countries, one such example is killing the intellectuals of the society and rooting out political dissidents

    • @zwitie3455
      @zwitie3455 Месяц назад +5

      communist countries can be authoritarian of course. you dont have to agree entirely with one political belief system id go to say if you do you need to think a bit more about it.

    • @Osindileyo
      @Osindileyo Месяц назад +13

      You must’ve heard a few buzzwords and got mad about it.
      In the context of this film, It’s a private company that controls everything. The people have no say in what goes on.
      Besides, it’s in a company’s best interest to be a monopoly since they then don’t have competition and can do whatever they feel like. We have to have extremely strong anti monopoly laws to stop this from being a reality

    • @mainhalo117
      @mainhalo117 Месяц назад +2

      @@Osindileyo it’s anyone’s best interest to become a monopoly, corpos want monopolies only money, power, etc. dictators want monopolies on money, power, etc. government wants a monopoly on money, power, etc.
      Everything you’ve said could describe authoritarianism

    • @mainhalo117
      @mainhalo117 Месяц назад

      @@zwitie3455 can be? More like must be. There’s no way to enforce communism without preventing commerce and the only way to prevent commerce is through force.

    • @Osindileyo
      @Osindileyo Месяц назад +6

      @@mainhalo117 the cast majority of governments are held accountable by the fact that the voters can well, vote.
      Companies have no such mechanism, which is why big companies is such a big problem

  • @theexistenceshow
    @theexistenceshow 2 месяца назад +35

    An interesting fact about about Octan is that actually has been appearing in Lego sets for decades as a generic company.

  • @Xentipiiides
    @Xentipiiides 2 месяца назад +45

    I love how incredibly straightforward this is. no intro, gets straight to the point, various random "this doesnt prove any point that im trying to make i just love it" bits throughout, the wonderful social commentary, the just general awesomeness of the video, the line "the unstoppable power of autism"
    this is one of the best videos ive watched so far this year.
    it, and im autistic so i mean this as a compliment, exudes autism energy. like before you proofread or edited it you wrote in in one stream of consciousness infodump. incredible.

  • @Egg22119
    @Egg22119 2 месяца назад

    Max you really have a talent for video essays, this video introduced me to your channel and I can't wait for more video essays.

  • @Dannybythebanana
    @Dannybythebanana 2 месяца назад +2

    "Octan make good stuff. Music, Dairy Products, Coffee, TV shows, Surveillance systems, ALL history books, Voting machines!"
    "....Waitaminute"

  • @slayyy401
    @slayyy401 2 месяца назад +35

    15:26 "He really does put his whole ferrellussy into this persona" made me do a double take lmao

    • @qwertka123
      @qwertka123 7 дней назад

      I just went "wait what-"

  • @zekejanczewski7275
    @zekejanczewski7275 2 месяца назад +76

    I know its a bit of a joke in reveiws to say "X" is communist/capitalist propaganda. But I don't think that sort of semi-ironic tone really does the analysis justice. Here are my honest thoughts on why I think the Lego Movie is so memerable.
    The Lego Movie is the heros journey; perfected. I mean, it has all the clichés, but it's written so well, it's incredible. A prophecy, a dying mentor who comes back as a ghost, genaric loose cannon love intrest, exceedingly boring protagonist whoes just like a normal guy, worthless animal sidekick, sappy inspiring speech to tell the citizens to think for themselves, greedy corperate/political villan ect.
    It isn't even using these tropes ironically or deconstructing them. It full-heartedly embraces them. Only when irony starts being introduced in Lego Movie 2 does the whole thing fall apart. How come it does everything right to make such a boring story work so well?
    I think one of the best reasons is that everything is carefully designed to support the main motifs of creativity as an escape from a society. Emmet is a backseat rider for the majority of the plot and letting the more colorful charaters take the wheel, while emmet himself serving as comic relief, and also serves as a reminder of the evil the resistance is battleing.
    Id imagine he would get annoying if he took the spotlight for the middle third of the movie. Despite the bulk of charaterization comming from a trickle of new quirky charaters, and Emmet being a backseat protagonist for the middle third of the movie, we still get to learn about his journey. The audience has sutle hints dropped to him that he has some sort of untapped creativity.(The double-decker couch bit that ends up saving everyone, the fact that his mind is so empty that there is nothing to clear in the first place, ect)
    This conflict is echoed on 3 separate levels; scocietal, literal, and personal, and all of them are resolved in the exact same beat at the climax. First, the scocietal. "Honey, Where's my Pants " show is just like the "Ouch my balls" show from idiocracy. What's funny about it is that Emmet nearly thinks for himself in like the first 5 minutes of the movie. The famous line "What was I thinking? Eh, I don't care. " It is nearly explicitly clear that that is designed for the populace to stay conforming and to ignore how the people in power hold onto that power. From the only music on the radio being a dong about not worring. "Everything is awesome! Everything is cool when you're part of a team!" Are very orwellian lyrics when you co sider the state the scociety is in. In Mr Presidents Tower, the robot minions draw a lot of parallels to the citizens of Brixville. The robots behave in a way that is litterally indistinguishable from the citizens at large.
    The logical next step for this society is to reach a litteral state of conformity, which is the main evil plot that drives around, but it serves as a more methe story on a more surface level. They need to stop the bad guy from freezing people into place. It is a much more concrete goal than freeing the citizens from their shackles and letting them think for themselves. Mr. President literally plans to glue the citizens into position.
    This conflict is echoed a third time when the dad charater gets mad at his son for playing with his lego models. He sees it as just someone messing up his perfect world, but comes to realize that his son is just expressing his creativity.
    The big strategical mistake that the President makes is that he had subdued his own men to the point where stealth is trivial. Emmet is hard to track because his face is "too generic." Emmets plan is to"follow the instructions" a weakness that allows them to infiltrate the tower. Of course, a bold and bombastic plan where you build a super mega rainbow cannon would fail. Mr. President built up an organization that is a foil to creativity. Part of the reason why Emmet is special is because he is not, because he's just like everyone else. In the possi3 of master builders, he is a new perspective. The reason he is the chosen one is because he lived a life of conformity. Through his style of work, he is the only one to see that he can use conformity as a means to an end to trick the villan.
    The reason I think it's a good story is because it's a tight thematic ship. Each conflict goes to support the moteif of conformity vs. creativity.
    Just like a good joke. It makes the audience think of multiple things at once. Every conflict supports a singular message on the battle between free expression and order.
    This battle between "free expression" and "building the perfect world" is sort of emblematic of legos as a toy. We all mashed together some ugly multi-colored spaceship as kids. When we get older, we might enjoy the simple joy of following the instructions to assemble something like an owl sculpture or a movie set. But we lose some of that creativity which makes legos fun. Its okay to be the Dad, as long as we don't force order on others. A simple message, but one I think the lego movie makes quite well.

    • @Rot8erConeX
      @Rot8erConeX 2 месяца назад +1

      I've only read like half your comment so far, but that third paragraph which basically boils down to "it's playing all the tropes super straight but it's done so well" makes me think of what people (myself included) say about 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim.

    • @juang1574
      @juang1574 Месяц назад +11

      Yeah i feel that this message was less about communism, infact it feels individualistic with a emmet chooses his own personality. Its more non conformist than any commu or capi. Its just anti authoritarian

    • @ultraflopp2802
      @ultraflopp2802 Месяц назад

      Write more of those around the internet, you’re making the quality of spent time better

    • @wasatarif8113
      @wasatarif8113 Месяц назад

      Good lord take it to a publisher

  • @RainingRay
    @RainingRay 4 дня назад +1

    I loved this all except the Barbie bit. Barbie was (mostly) about what it is to be a woman, not about the horrible power that corporations hold over us.

  • @inutile3512
    @inutile3512 2 месяца назад +4

    mate id rather just watch the fucking movie and laugh

    • @Schampu4000
      @Schampu4000 2 месяца назад +6

      This video prevented you doing that, how exactly?

  • @sterlingm1140
    @sterlingm1140 2 месяца назад +65

    The most important Marxist theory: Das Kapital, Principles of Communsim, The Communist Manifesto, State and Revolution, what is to be done, and of course the Lego Movie.

  • @goldenmagikarp5191
    @goldenmagikarp5191 2 месяца назад +30

    I think honestly that the Lego Movie focuses more on themes of will and the self rather than any form of socialistic positivity. Hell, I could easily argue the opposite comparing Brickburg to Stalins USSR, the CCP's dictatorship etc. Marx himself, a stan for Hegel considered society before the individual, himself saying that "the so called rights of man are nothing but the rights of the member of the civil society, "
    Honestly, I think that the writings of Kierkegaard offer some interesting insites that the Lego Movie also deals with. While I don't agree with this video, and I think that some of the arguements brought up don't really work, I'm glad to see somebody else who likes the movie as I do.

    • @DogBeater-rh8hd
      @DogBeater-rh8hd Месяц назад

      CCP is a dictatorship? I thought members of the CCP were voted in by the Chinese people?

  • @b3h3ld
    @b3h3ld 24 дня назад +2

    that shot at ben shapiro was funny as hell, you're underrated bro. hope your youtube career succeeds lmao

  • @inigoloyola1869
    @inigoloyola1869 2 месяца назад

    This video was the most eye-opening video essay on a film I've ever seen. The amount of depth that was revealed of this movie that I didn't even think about....wow. Great editing too.

  • @acidicalportal4418
    @acidicalportal4418 2 месяца назад +74

    I am happy to see you got this finished. I remember watching this movie when it came out, it was like the perfect age for me to watch this movie and I still fondly remember it. Hope this video gets more views because it's well deserved for the time and effort you put into it.

    • @maxmunich
      @maxmunich  2 месяца назад +12

      thanks king

    • @commenterthe3rd
      @commenterthe3rd 2 месяца назад +1

      I watched it when it was pretty new too, Im happy to say it and others like it affected me very positively

  • @random_number_sequence
    @random_number_sequence 2 месяца назад +65

    the starting scene of emmet rising from a lying position is clearly a reference to lenin's masoleum in of which it is visually similar to a bed...... the lbeisrlas are coming

  • @bandiba18szfera79
    @bandiba18szfera79 Месяц назад +22

    I guess It's because I'm eastern european, but I think this movie has a lot of stuff that's pretty anti communist... Of course only under capitalism and fascism can bad things happen...

    • @raininginside
      @raininginside Месяц назад +9

      Thank god. Only we who have been through actually know how communism is like.

    • @WombatKnul
      @WombatKnul Месяц назад

      @@raininginside Noooooo guys! That wasn't REAL communism! Hurrr durrrrrrrr

    • @wictoriono
      @wictoriono 28 дней назад +9

      Yeah this guy gets it completely wrong, I guess because he is a communist himself. The way he talks about secret police, surveillance, the pressure to succumb to be normal. That's communism! That's what the movie critiques! He mentions 1984... The book 1984 is anti-communist! This movie isn't anti-capitalistic or even that anti-communist. He thinks that it must be anti-capitalist, even though in reality it's anti-dictatorship in general and definitely more anti-communist and anti-fascist than anti-capitalist.

    • @Nameless_Individual
      @Nameless_Individual 26 дней назад +3

      @@wictoriono George Orwell was openly a socialist. I think the attitude of "That's not capitalism, that's communism!" is a pedantic construct to distract people from the actual ideas of either system. Being limited by language is an extremely foregrounded theme in 1984.

    • @tteqhu
      @tteqhu 23 дня назад

      @@Nameless_Individual
      Openly calling himself a socialist - sure, but I think over time his views changed, and he saw certain issues, as I believe Animal Farm was strongly refering to USSR, with 1984 that may allude to nazi state as well.
      Definitely wasn't communist or marxist, and we're not living in the times where opression and colonialism was still commonly prevalent.
      Either way, I wouldn't use it either way to defend my points for, or against capitalism/communism.

  • @UsedNameTag13
    @UsedNameTag13 День назад

    Ive had this sitting in my watch later forever and so glad I finally got to watching it

  • @LeafiestOfGreens
    @LeafiestOfGreens 2 месяца назад +81

    ok- im only 2 minutes in and you've convinced me to bookmark this video, watch the movie again, and then come back to this. great work dude!

  • @pekkow
    @pekkow 2 месяца назад +8

    "this movie is so good with childhood memories" 1 minute later "this means that the Lego movie has an underlined saying for communism ☭"

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 2 месяца назад +2

    I don't agree that the core message of this film is communist, I think that's some pretty twisted mental gymnastics. But I do agree that the lego movie is the best animated and family film ever made, and that it has a great message for everyone.

  • @hanounacyril6420
    @hanounacyril6420 2 месяца назад +3

    i lost my edging streak to this scrumptous vidéo i love u