Right even with him getting knocked out of that game it wasnt till the 3rd you'd think a veteran QB with experience in multiple systems at least could've gotten us a lead our D could've protected since you can just put anyone in there yet that's not what happened
If you look at Tom Brady's first three Super Bowl wins, he didn't put up those gaudy passing numbers. He was just considered a "very good" QB on a loaded Patriots team. It wasn't until around 2006 when he was truly "HIM" and put up all those passing yards, TDs, and more championships, and was considered the best player on his team. Man truly did have two Hall of Fame careers in one.
@@razorbeard6970 OP’s point is that Brock Purdy is a good QB because he played Super Bowl, which is poor reasoning. Therefore, I was saying if that’s the case then Grossman is a good QB. Of course Purdy > Grossman, but that’s not a good reason for Purdy being a good QB.
@@wardsquidcirca1999 I don't think that's what was meant at all. It was simply a slap to the face to those who doubt Purdy's ability. He's in the NFL as the full time starter producing great passing stats and is clearly a major reason his team is playing in the Super Bowl. I realize this wasn't stated in the post but, it's obvious.
Don’t wanna be that guy but, qUarTerBaCKs AreNt rEsSPonSIblE FOr WiNsaaaa~(entirely, like a good one obviously plays a decently sized role in the game but they aren’t the sole reason for wins and losses……. I know I’m stating the obvious.)
The problem is people insist on having this “fan” conversation of wanting to rank him. Why can’t he just be “Brock Purdy, the best 49ers QB since Steve Young”. That is pretty much factual. To be able to know what this kid will eventually be we need a bigger sample size, right now he’s giving the 49ers elite QB play, that is also factual, be it by his supporting cast or else, it’s still elite QB play. One day we will know more, but, for now, he’s OUR QB in the Super Bowl, so, to the 49ers he’s the best QB in the world right now!! He’s one of two QBs standing, and he’s the best 49ers QB since Steve Young with a shot at winning a Super Bowl, and that is awesome.
My theory is basketball fandom has poisoned sports discussion. Everyone has to be the GOAT. In football, baseball, and hockey, you need an entire team to win games, not just one star player. Brock Purdy is one very talented player on a roster with several other very talented players
@@liguy181hard agree. basketball fandom has become truly cancerous, especially online. And that discourse has found its way into the podcasts and ESPN shows which definitely creeps into NFL and other commentary.
He’s a second year player who has been to the NFC Championship game both years and is heading to his first Super Bowl…..the question itself is stupid and belongs on one of those ESPN gab shows populated by has beens and never weres
So I will state upfront that I am a 49ers fan and I am a little bias, in saying that here is my thoughts on Purdy. It's to early in his career to label what he is ... This is his second year in the league and his first full year as a starter. When he is in his 4th year we can see more on what he actually is. I will fully point this out ... 2 years in the league , 4 playoff wins , 2 playoff winning drives and a 18-5 regular season record. Career stats 68.7 completion percentage 44 tds 15 ints. Has more playoff wins then Lamar and Dak combined... You can't sit there and say those two QBs are not on talented team themselves... You can say he isn't the most physically gifted QB but there are a lot of players in Canton that weren't the most physically gifted in their era either. Will Brock have that kind of career ... I don't know but he has a had a good start and if he does win the Superbowl he will cement himself in 49ers lore.
He was given the keys to the $250k sports car and told to parallel park it. He did it on the first try. If you put Sam Darnold in his position, it’s not so easy to expect him to deliver the same numbers over a whole season.
He not only parallel parked that 250k vehicle, but once he stepped out of the car, it was shinier than when he stepped into it. The 49ers were great before Brock, but they became dominant for several stretches of the season. They scored 30 or more 10 times this season (including playoffs). Only the Cowboys scored 30+ more times (11 total), and one of those was in their 48-32 defeat to the Packers.
Small detail, but he was actually the 4th qb going into the season after Nate sudfeld who they gave a $2m signing bonus for who they felt good about. He was good enough in the preseason they let him go and earned that 3rd spot
I love purdy, excellent bullets but the Hail Marys aren’t the best. Yet, the speed, sight, and coordination make up for it. His receivers aren’t carrying, they simply catch and run. You can’t blame Purdue for a loss when he’s has to see the ENTIRE field and predict the speed and outcome of the throw.
Mfs don’t take into account that brocky does NOT play in a QB friendly offense. Like, AT ALL. Glock Purdy: plays with garbage O-line (except Trent), playbook is stacked a mfing mile high (biggest in the nfl), play-action + crazy read assignments down field would make ANY qb get the spins in confusion, and to top it off Kyle has a bad habit of calling crazy plays where a free rusher has an opportunity to dig a MF GRAVE for the qb unless the qb plays perfectly and scrambles out of the pocket to make a play outside of the “system”. and that’s just the shortlist. Argue all you want, this dudes never been a game manager. Average in stature, elite in gameplay if you ask me.
At this point, you have to ask people who deny that Brock Purdy isn't one of the best QB's in the league, "What criteria do you use then?" -> Since he's taken over, he's statistically one of the best QB's in the league in every metric. Logically, just having a great coach and great team doesn't automatically imply Brock is average as you can have a great coach and great team, and still be a great QB (eg Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Patrick Mahomes all had great teams and great coaches) so that argument fails to do the very thing which critics are using it for, i.e. to rule out that Brock Purdy is great. -> People like JT O'Sullivan and Chase Daniel who have done detailed and extensive play-by-play analysis of Purdy have consistently shown how good he is, so the film proves it too. This isn't to say he's perfect and never has a bad play, obviously, but the overall body of work is extraordinary. -> He's shown his ability to play from behind and has had more success in the playoffs in 2 years than many other "elite" QBs have had in many more years, so he has productivity too. *If it's not statistics, film, or productivity, then what criteria do you use?* The only thing critics have left to resort to are subjective intuitions and pointless hypotheticals that are either impossible to prove or have been disproven, or superfluous characteristics such as arm strength beyond that which is necessary to make any throw on the field, which effectively amounts to a dick-measuring contest. None of these would ever hold up in a court of law against a growing body of ACTUAL, not hypothetical, objective data that suggest the complete opposite.
This is the equivalent of asking if a baseball player who lead the league in batting average, OPS and exit velocity is good. That’s what makes this argument insane.
@chuckpike9350 except he isn't. I'm not saying he isn't good but to compare him to what this dude is throwing out for baseball stats is asinine. I'd also love to see what his stat is for yards per completion - YAC and where that stacks up because thatd be a real metric to see how much work that receiving corps + CMC are doing
@@bryantsteury8910 The stats are available. You can look them up for yourself. Brock Purdy has better passing stats than Mahomes, Allen and Jackson this year, with one less game played and 100 less throws. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Right this fucking guy says expect it isn't and then admits he let even look up the stats what a tool he leads in pretty much all the important stats under pressure YPA ANYPA literally like all the important stats but you just regurgitate what you hear
waters? nah he had Roger Craig who was better, he barely played with Ricky Watters. the weapons Montana had were Craig, rice, clark, j. Taylor, Brent jones, f. Solomon., Ronnie Lott, Charles haley, Walsh etc. niners were loaded with talent man.
sounds like hating to me, its his 2nd year, i'd expect any 2nd year quarter back to struggle without their star players since you now have to play completely different
This is the first qb ever who has lead the league in qb stats that this question has been asked about - why? The answer should be obvious- he is not good, he’s elite!
His team may be loaded with talent, but he is leading that team to the Super Bowl, which means he’s Purdy Good. It doesn’t matter if the system he plays is “QB friendly”; you play to win the game, and for the past two seasons, he did his job and did it well. He’s still young, but he has a bright future ahead of him.
Guess who led the league in air yard per attempt? Purdy with 9.6 yard per attempt. Second best was Tua with 8.3. Also, guess who led the league in yard after catch? Mahomes with 59% of his total passing yard was YAC. Purdy was #18 at 48%, so much for “check down merchant “ narrative.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 There are so many false and negative narratives out there for Purdy. On the other hand , there are false but positive narratives for other QBs especially Lamar Jackson
Not just the offense around him (name another QB that enabled FOUR players to make 1,000+ years, one of them being the only 2,000+ year performance of 2023), but also his head coach elevated his game as well. ALL quarterbacks are game managers and system quarterbacks for their team. That's the job. The more relevant question is, does the QB bring something BEYOND being a game manager and understanding the system. There simply is NO DENYING that Brock Purdy brings more to the table - that he has additional skills and special abilities. If you look you will see it in every game (oh, and in the numbers, too). The one stat that I bring up, among his many #1 ranked stats among ALL QB's in the league, is his #1 in CPOE. That's Completion Percentage Over Expectation. All OE stats are weighted metrics that account for difficulty in the situation, under duress, and compared to all other QB's, averaged, in similar situations. Whether you think Purdy is elite or not, being #1 CPOE means he beat ALL the other established elite QB's in the league in the most difficult, challenging situations. If Purdy is not elite, he's at a minimum knocking on the door, hard and loud.
I really don't care what you think, dude. None of us 49ers Faithful should give a crap what anyone else believes. Whether it's good *_or_* bad. The point is that Brock Purdy is *_THE_* perfect QB for the 49ers. And that's all that should matter. Who gives a shit if he can do the same thing on another team? He's *_NOT_* on another team, is he? Has _any_ *_Game Manager_* or *_System Quarterback_* lead their team to *_TWO_* Conference Championships in a row? Of course not. It's never happened before Brock Purdy. Yes, he's less than two years removed from being selected Mr Irrelevant. But he's going to be playing in the Super Bowl having significant playing time for only 1 year, 2 months and 1 week on Super Bowl Sunday (since December 4, 2022). People also forget that he had *_MAJOR ELBOW SURGERY_* less that a year ago and wasn't expected to be ready to start until about a month into the 2023 season. He was *_WAY AHEAD_* of schedule by being ready at the beginning of Training Camp. And people need to *_STOP_* talking about the players he has had around him. I can name MVP winning Quarterbacks who have had the same. Here's a list (in no particular order): 1. Joe Montana had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman. 2. Steve Young had Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Ricky Watters, Brent Jones and William Floyd. 3. Tom Brady had Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Kevin Faulk and Ben Watson. 4. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne and Marcus Pollard. 5. Kurt Warner had Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt. 6. Aaron Rodgers had Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver and Jermichael Finley. 7. Patrick Mahomes had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt, Sammy Watkins and Chris Conley. 8. Brett Farve had Antonio Freeman, Edgar Bennett, Robert Brooks, Mark Chmura and William Henderson. 9. Dan Marino had Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Tony Nathan, Dan Johnson and Woody Bennett. 10. John Elway had Terrell Davis, Ed McCaffrey (CMC's dad), Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith and Howard Griffith. I could go on and on and list MVP QBs like Johnny Unitas, John Brodie, Ken Stabler, Fran Tarkenton, Terry Bradshaw, Ken Anderson, Joe Theismann, Boomer Esiason and Steve McNair as well. But if you haven't gotten the point by now, you never will and I just feel sorry for you.
He's really, really good. I've seen every snap of his professional career. He led his team to the #1 seed and a Super Bowl birth in his first season as a starter.
Well.. I'm no expert by far but I see it as half of one and half of the other... They seem to compliment each other very well and I look forward to a W at the Super Bowl. Go NINERS!! OH and pay Aiyuk $$!!
My only issue with him is how people always talk about how he was drafted last when we've seen this story before. Kurt warner literally went undrafted and look how good he was.
Good QB on bad team: Damn, if only he had some better players around him he'd be great. Good QB on great team: Pfff he's only good because of the great players around him
Great vid. But I disagree with the final sentence. If Brock plays shit in the SB it says a lot, and everyone will slam him. But I truly think win or lose in this one game he is on a path to becoming truly truly elite. Yes it will be hard to win everyone over again but it’s something I could see him do
The question as to whether he is elite is a bs distinction. There is no objective definition of what an elite quarterback even is. It is entirely subjective. I would suggest some criteria - Wins Wins a lot Wins from behind Wins over an extended period Wins big games Maintains excellent stats Plays well in all conditions Plays well against other great quarterbacks Wins Super Bowls (optional - see Dan Marino)
Of course he's good he's still the ones making the throws Anyone who says he's not is a hater. It's the NFL and he's in the Superbowl. Aaron Rodgers has 1 Superbowl that's how hard it is to make it and even harder to win. It's the coaches job to use a system that best fits the QB why would they use one that doesn't
He’s being carried. Don’t get me wrong he is good, but he doesn’t go to the jets and be who he is. The games they lost last year CM was held to under 60 yards which made Brock Purdy throw more and was throwing picks left and right. It’s a great system, it took Jimmy G to a superbowl
There is no middle ground with Purdy, Hes either called crap from casual fans or people who go way overboard, or 49er fans or casuals on the other end of the spectrum call him elite and the next coming of Joe Montana. Truth is he is both actually, he makes a couple plays a game that are unreal and truly elevate the team, but he also makes many plays a game where he looks woeful. And the rest of his Qb play is generally pretty good. Thus he is just good, not top 10 or wtv but just a decent to good QB, also he played like crap these last two games and I will stand on that, well maybe not "crap" against the Lions, but not well
He's top 10. People buy into raw fundamentals of ther guys but he's got the right intangibles and the numbers to back it up. Ask me to name who I'd want starting a super bowl right now, and outside of Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, and *maybe* Josh Allen, I'd have a hard time taking anyone else. Lamar, Tua, and Dak had good years but Brock has ice in his veins by comparison. I'm not gonna crown him best 9ers QB since Young, he's still got some time left to prove that and Id like to see him do so without the stacked elite cast around him. And he's had a bit of a rough postseason but he's still rallied. But so far he's done almost everything he's been asked of.
The problem is people insist on having this “fan” conversation of wanting to rank him. Why can’t he just be “Brock Purdy, the best 49ers QB since Steve Young”. That is pretty much factual. To be able to know what this kid will eventually be we need a bigger sample size, right now he’s giving the 49ers elite QB play, that is also factual, be it by his supporting cast or else, it’s still elite QB play. One day we will know more, but, for now, he’s OUR QB in the Super Bowl, so, to the 49ers he’s the best QB in the world right now!! He’s one of two QBs standing, and he’s the best 49ers QB since Steve Young with a shot at winning a Super Bowl, and that is awesome.
If being game manager means you only play simple correct play (not flashy one) one after another consistently then I think be the best game manager is not really that bad.
The thing i find annoying is when people say Brock is like the 10th best on his team, sure, but id argue that dak, Lamar, hurts and goff are barely above top 10 on thier respective teams, out of the final four teams in the playoffs this year, i think the only qb who is easily a top 5 guy on his roster in mahomes. I feel purdy gets a lot more hate bcs his players are skill position and get more of a mention, whereas dak, Lamar, goff and even mahomes all have at least 2 more elite o line players and an overall significantly better o line, so the level of talent on their rosters gets overlooked a bit more. Not to say purdy doesnt have a better team around him but it isnt as much of a gap as it seems to be made out to be. So while i dont think Brock is a top 4/5 qb in the league he is an elite qb and has skills that most other qbs in the league cant do. Oh yeah and hes a 2nd year guy
The difference between Brock Purdy and all the other quarterbacks is that he is a scrapper besides Josh Allen I’ve seen other quarterbacks like Cam Newton get hit hard and they get intimidated and can’t bounce back from that Once you play an elite defense, now I believe that is what makes Brock Purdy u know what I mean? The fact that he is not afraid to get hit And he makes plays and scrambles when he needs to his IQ level in football is above and beyond some of these quarterbacks that’s what makes Brock Purdy elite for me.
I won't doubt that Brock Purdy is any good, Yeah, he's on a good team with a good system. But still he knows what he's doing. However, I do wonder if he's gonna be able to keep this up for years to come Or is this just gonna be another short Cinderella story type 🤔
Game manager = see slant pass make slant pass. Game changer = see slant pass, run around in circles then make slant pass in the third window. Give me the game manager.
Game manager = sees 1st read covered, takes sack or throws it away. Game changer = sees 4 reads, escapes the pocket, finds someone 30 yards down field on the scramble drill and somehow completes the pass. That's the difference, I've seen Brock Purdy do the latter quite a bit the last two years
@@BuPan so Brady, Manning , Montana does all that or do they read defenses quickly and slice em up. The only reason you gotta run around is that you can’t make the reads fast enough.
@@TheH8trs Absolutely they've all had to do that due to coverage and they have. Manning and Brady weren't always statues in their career and I have seen Joe do that exact thing. There's actually a short of Brock and Montana rollout comparison and the play is eerily similar. It's on RUclips so it should be easy to find.
@@TheH8trsPurdy makes the reads and makes the throws if they are there. When he scrambles his eyes remain downfield. He sees lanes to get first downs tho if need be but hes not looking to run first.
You can’t rank him against other players on a team. A QBs weight value is 10/10. A D-lineman’s weight value is 5/10. Linebacker 5/10. Even a receiver is no more than 6/10. So even if a linebackers skill level is 9/10, his weight value is only 5/10. A team can still win without a linebacker, a receiver, an O-lineman… but if you take out a QB there is zero chance of winning.
Yup look what happened when we lost Brock in last years NFC CG still had all our other weapons and whatd it amount to absolutely nothing couldn't get anything going at all
What i notice is most the hate coming at Brock is from Homie's. And with that, u know the reason. They still think Cam is a good QB {so does Cam...lol}
For the second time in an hour on totally unrelated places on RUclips, to totally different people, I’ve felt compelled to say: you’re using the phrase “begs the question” totally wrong.
Hes Elite, and you sound like you dont watch Niner games. You didnt bother to show his incredible TD vs the Jags, and you didnt really break down any tape.
I’d rather have Brock Purdy in a playoff game than Lamar Jackson. You play better coaches and defenses the playoffs and you have to have downfield vision
Not behind the niners offensive line you couldn't guarantee you'd be injured before the season is over our Oline is really bad think about this even with HoFer Trent Williams playing on it they are ranked something like 20th in pass protection that's how bad we are with him just imagine the other sections of the line
A video of saying a whole lot of nothing. Brock puts the ball where it needs to go, that's what a quarterback does and he does it better than 99% of the league.
I think he's top 10, but the only way to figure out if he's truly elite or not, is through the passage of time. We have to see how he does in the Super Bowl, and we have to see what he does beyond just a season and a half. We will probably get a pretty good answer as to where exactly he falls after the 2025 season or so.
If your irrelevant, than you matter. Always love yourself . Also purdy is like mahomes. Excerpt Purdy doesn't suck like mahomes. Machokes will be his name after Purdy is done with him. Sorry patty mayonnaise
We called Brady a game manager for yrs and praised him for it. 9ers fans hear Game Manager and start crying how they’re underdogs (favored in every game this yr btw). Purdy is a good QB that is blessed to be playing with the Justice League and Avengers on both sides of the ball. To me he’s more Kirk/Dak than Allen/Mahomes and that isn’t a bad thing.
I'm not sure how good or bad he is there is still a lot of time in his career, with that being said I feel like the nfl wants SO BADLY to keep the Mr. Irrelevant narrative they over hype him. Look at Jimmy Garoppolo, they made it to the super bowl with him and he is ass. So it's just hard because people want to be right and say I told you so, and the opposite happens people want him to be bad and they become hell bent on bring right. Time will tell what he becomes.
If it was the system, then Josh Johnson would've led the 49ers past the Eagles in the NFCCG.
Right even with him getting knocked out of that game it wasnt till the 3rd you'd think a veteran QB with experience in multiple systems at least could've gotten us a lead our D could've protected since you can just put anyone in there yet that's not what happened
That man was literally shaking in his cleats in that game
If you look at Tom Brady's first three Super Bowl wins, he didn't put up those gaudy passing numbers. He was just considered a "very good" QB on a loaded Patriots team. It wasn't until around 2006 when he was truly "HIM" and put up all those passing yards, TDs, and more championships, and was considered the best player on his team. Man truly did have two Hall of Fame careers in one.
Damn near three hof careers
However, Purdy has put up gaudy passing numbers this season.
The patriots werent loaded when Brady first started wdym
Is Brock Purdy good? Come on man! He's playing in the NFL and playing in the Super Bowl, yes!! he's good!! He's better than good, He's fucking AWESOME
Is Rex Grossman good because he played in the Super Bowl?
JV I agree with you
@@wardsquidcirca1999If Grossman's stats even approached Purdy's this would be a legit retort. As such, it's funny.
@@razorbeard6970 OP’s point is that Brock Purdy is a good QB because he played Super Bowl, which is poor reasoning. Therefore, I was saying if that’s the case then Grossman is a good QB. Of course Purdy > Grossman, but that’s not a good reason for Purdy being a good QB.
@@wardsquidcirca1999 I don't think that's what was meant at all. It was simply a slap to the face to those who doubt Purdy's ability. He's in the NFL as the full time starter producing great passing stats and is clearly a major reason his team is playing in the Super Bowl. I realize this wasn't stated in the post but, it's obvious.
If you’re the very last pick and make yourself to the superbowl then you’re good
cracked good
Don’t wanna be that guy but, qUarTerBaCKs AreNt rEsSPonSIblE FOr WiNsaaaa~(entirely, like a good one obviously plays a decently sized role in the game but they aren’t the sole reason for wins and losses……. I know I’m stating the obvious.)
In your second year too. And back to back championship rounds in those first 2 years.
plus coming back from a major surgery!@@davidschoutenjr.4631
If you make it to the Super Bowl after leading your team to the #1 seed in the conference.. You're good. Regardless of draft spot.
Good isn't appropriate. He's Spectacular
The problem is people insist on having this “fan” conversation of wanting to rank him.
Why can’t he just be “Brock Purdy, the best 49ers QB since Steve Young”. That is pretty much factual. To be able to know what this kid will eventually be we need a bigger sample size, right now he’s giving the 49ers elite QB play, that is also factual, be it by his supporting cast or else, it’s still elite QB play. One day we will know more, but, for now, he’s OUR QB in the Super Bowl, so, to the 49ers he’s the best QB in the world right now!! He’s one of two QBs standing, and he’s the best 49ers QB since Steve Young with a shot at winning a Super Bowl, and that is awesome.
Lol yep
My theory is basketball fandom has poisoned sports discussion. Everyone has to be the GOAT. In football, baseball, and hockey, you need an entire team to win games, not just one star player. Brock Purdy is one very talented player on a roster with several other very talented players
@@liguy181 exactly, and that’s a good thing, a good player in a good roster I mean
Gotta shout out to Jeff Garcia. Garcia held the record for Niners yardage in one season. Brock broke Jeff’s record.
@@liguy181hard agree. basketball fandom has become truly cancerous, especially online. And that discourse has found its way into the podcasts and ESPN shows which definitely creeps into NFL and other commentary.
He’s a second year player who has been to the NFC Championship game both years and is heading to his first Super Bowl…..the question itself is stupid and belongs on one of those ESPN gab shows populated by has beens and never weres
So I will state upfront that I am a 49ers fan and I am a little bias, in saying that here is my thoughts on Purdy.
It's to early in his career to label what he is ... This is his second year in the league and his first full year as a starter. When he is in his 4th year we can see more on what he actually is.
I will fully point this out ... 2 years in the league , 4 playoff wins , 2 playoff winning drives and a 18-5 regular season record. Career stats 68.7 completion percentage 44 tds 15 ints. Has more playoff wins then Lamar and Dak combined... You can't sit there and say those two QBs are not on talented team themselves... You can say he isn't the most physically gifted QB but there are a lot of players in Canton that weren't the most physically gifted in their era either.
Will Brock have that kind of career ... I don't know but he has a had a good start and if he does win the Superbowl he will cement himself in 49ers lore.
Very good seems like a great kid as well
He was given the keys to the $250k sports car and told to parallel park it. He did it on the first try. If you put Sam Darnold in his position, it’s not so easy to expect him to deliver the same numbers over a whole season.
He not only parallel parked that 250k vehicle, but once he stepped out of the car, it was shinier than when he stepped into it. The 49ers were great before Brock, but they became dominant for several stretches of the season. They scored 30 or more 10 times this season (including playoffs). Only the Cowboys scored 30+ more times (11 total), and one of those was in their 48-32 defeat to the Packers.
I like your analogy =))
Small detail, but he was actually the 4th qb going into the season after Nate sudfeld who they gave a $2m signing bonus for who they felt good about. He was good enough in the preseason they let him go and earned that 3rd spot
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@vitigaymer1053 as are you my friend, Godspeed
I love purdy, excellent bullets but the Hail Marys aren’t the best. Yet, the speed, sight, and coordination make up for it. His receivers aren’t carrying, they simply catch and run. You can’t blame Purdue for a loss when he’s has to see the ENTIRE field and predict the speed and outcome of the throw.
Mfs don’t take into account that brocky does NOT play in a QB friendly offense. Like, AT ALL. Glock Purdy: plays with garbage O-line (except Trent), playbook is stacked a mfing mile high (biggest in the nfl), play-action + crazy read assignments down field would make ANY qb get the spins in confusion, and to top it off Kyle has a bad habit of calling crazy plays where a free rusher has an opportunity to dig a MF GRAVE for the qb unless the qb plays perfectly and scrambles out of the pocket to make a play outside of the “system”. and that’s just the shortlist. Argue all you want, this dudes never been a game manager. Average in stature, elite in gameplay if you ask me.
At this point, you have to ask people who deny that Brock Purdy isn't one of the best QB's in the league, "What criteria do you use then?"
-> Since he's taken over, he's statistically one of the best QB's in the league in every metric. Logically, just having a great coach and great team doesn't automatically imply Brock is average as you can have a great coach and great team, and still be a great QB (eg Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Patrick Mahomes all had great teams and great coaches) so that argument fails to do the very thing which critics are using it for, i.e. to rule out that Brock Purdy is great.
-> People like JT O'Sullivan and Chase Daniel who have done detailed and extensive play-by-play analysis of Purdy have consistently shown how good he is, so the film proves it too. This isn't to say he's perfect and never has a bad play, obviously, but the overall body of work is extraordinary.
-> He's shown his ability to play from behind and has had more success in the playoffs in 2 years than many other "elite" QBs have had in many more years, so he has productivity too.
*If it's not statistics, film, or productivity, then what criteria do you use?* The only thing critics have left to resort to are subjective intuitions and pointless hypotheticals that are either impossible to prove or have been disproven, or superfluous characteristics such as arm strength beyond that which is necessary to make any throw on the field, which effectively amounts to a dick-measuring contest. None of these would ever hold up in a court of law against a growing body of ACTUAL, not hypothetical, objective data that suggest the complete opposite.
When he joined training camp, he was listed as the 4th string QB behind Nate Suddfeld.
This is the equivalent of asking if a baseball player who lead the league in batting average, OPS and exit velocity is good. That’s what makes this argument insane.
In what world is he leading the league in a bunch of crucial categories?
@@bryantsteury8910 In the world we all live in. It's called reality.
@chuckpike9350 except he isn't. I'm not saying he isn't good but to compare him to what this dude is throwing out for baseball stats is asinine. I'd also love to see what his stat is for yards per completion - YAC and where that stacks up because thatd be a real metric to see how much work that receiving corps + CMC are doing
@@bryantsteury8910 The stats are available. You can look them up for yourself. Brock Purdy has better passing stats than Mahomes, Allen and Jackson this year, with one less game played and 100 less throws. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Right this fucking guy says expect it isn't and then admits he let even look up the stats what a tool he leads in pretty much all the important stats under pressure YPA ANYPA literally like all the important stats but you just regurgitate what you hear
Not trynna be hyperbolic but he looks like Montana ..Montana had Waters, Clark , Rice and Walsh
waters? nah he had Roger Craig who was better, he barely played with Ricky Watters. the weapons Montana had were Craig, rice, clark, j. Taylor, Brent jones, f. Solomon., Ronnie Lott, Charles haley, Walsh etc. niners were loaded with talent man.
Waters? Not Ricky Watters, that’s for sure. They played together for a half game.
BP was #4 behind Nate Sudfield entering training camp.
This aged like fine wine
sounds like hating to me, its his 2nd year, i'd expect any 2nd year quarter back to struggle without their star players since you now have to play completely different
This is the first qb ever who has lead the league in qb stats that this question has been asked about - why? The answer should be obvious- he is not good, he’s elite!
Yes. Next.
44TDS
15INTS
5,654 Passing yards
And a Superbowl appearance.
I'd say he's got off to a good start. And there's more to come. Glad He is a 49er
Why is it that only the QB is a product of the system? Why not the back, the WR, or the TE?
His team may be loaded with talent, but he is leading that team to the Super Bowl, which means he’s Purdy Good. It doesn’t matter if the system he plays is “QB friendly”; you play to win the game, and for the past two seasons, he did his job and did it well. He’s still young, but he has a bright future ahead of him.
Spirited Away music! Excellent taste
I'm turning 40 this year.. Brady was called a "system QB thru 3 Super Bowl victories"
Guess who led the league in air yard per attempt? Purdy with 9.6 yard per attempt. Second best was Tua with 8.3. Also, guess who led the league in yard after catch? Mahomes with 59% of his total passing yard was YAC. Purdy was #18 at 48%, so much for “check down merchant “ narrative.
This is such a good point im gonna steal it for when people are stupid.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 There are so many false and negative narratives out there for Purdy. On the other hand , there are false but positive narratives for other QBs especially Lamar Jackson
He great quarterback for 49ers team 💪🐘👏❤️
Brock elevates the offense around him guys had career years and yet he is a system qb
Not just the offense around him (name another QB that enabled FOUR players to make 1,000+ years, one of them being the only 2,000+ year performance of 2023), but also his head coach elevated his game as well.
ALL quarterbacks are game managers and system quarterbacks for their team. That's the job. The more relevant question is, does the QB bring something BEYOND being a game manager and understanding the system. There simply is NO DENYING that Brock Purdy brings more to the table - that he has additional skills and special abilities. If you look you will see it in every game (oh, and in the numbers, too). The one stat that I bring up, among his many #1 ranked stats among ALL QB's in the league, is his #1 in CPOE. That's Completion Percentage Over Expectation. All OE stats are weighted metrics that account for difficulty in the situation, under duress, and compared to all other QB's, averaged, in similar situations. Whether you think Purdy is elite or not, being #1 CPOE means he beat ALL the other established elite QB's in the league in the most difficult, challenging situations. If Purdy is not elite, he's at a minimum knocking on the door, hard and loud.
I really don't care what you think, dude. None of us 49ers Faithful should give a crap what anyone else believes. Whether it's good *_or_* bad. The point is that Brock Purdy is *_THE_* perfect QB for the 49ers. And that's all that should matter. Who gives a shit if he can do the same thing on another team? He's *_NOT_* on another team, is he?
Has _any_ *_Game Manager_* or *_System Quarterback_* lead their team to *_TWO_* Conference Championships in a row? Of course not. It's never happened before Brock Purdy.
Yes, he's less than two years removed from being selected Mr Irrelevant. But he's going to be playing in the Super Bowl having significant playing time for only 1 year, 2 months and 1 week on Super Bowl Sunday (since December 4, 2022).
People also forget that he had *_MAJOR ELBOW SURGERY_* less that a year ago and wasn't expected to be ready to start until about a month into the 2023 season. He was *_WAY AHEAD_* of schedule by being ready at the beginning of Training Camp.
And people need to *_STOP_* talking about the players he has had around him. I can name MVP winning Quarterbacks who have had the same.
Here's a list (in no particular order):
1. Joe Montana had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman.
2. Steve Young had Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Ricky Watters, Brent Jones and William Floyd.
3. Tom Brady had Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Kevin Faulk and Ben Watson.
4. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne and Marcus Pollard.
5. Kurt Warner had Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt.
6. Aaron Rodgers had Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver and Jermichael Finley.
7. Patrick Mahomes had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt, Sammy Watkins and Chris Conley.
8. Brett Farve had Antonio Freeman, Edgar Bennett, Robert Brooks, Mark Chmura and William Henderson.
9. Dan Marino had Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Tony Nathan, Dan Johnson and Woody Bennett.
10. John Elway had Terrell Davis, Ed McCaffrey (CMC's dad), Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith and Howard Griffith.
I could go on and on and list MVP QBs like Johnny Unitas, John Brodie, Ken Stabler, Fran Tarkenton, Terry Bradshaw, Ken Anderson, Joe Theismann, Boomer Esiason and Steve McNair as well. But if you haven't gotten the point by now, you never will and I just feel sorry for you.
Great 2 am Piano cover towards the end there btw! Great pick!
Id say hes pretty cracked
He's really, really good. I've seen every snap of his professional career. He led his team to the #1 seed and a Super Bowl birth in his first season as a starter.
A Super Bowl birth? Damn. I’m not sure I wanna see that. 😂😂😂
Two nfc championship games in two years. Answer yes.
Well.. I'm no expert by far but I see it as half of one and half of the other... They seem to compliment each other very well and I look forward to a W at the Super Bowl. Go NINERS!! OH and pay Aiyuk $$!!
The mr irrelevant style stories are always amazing
My only issue with him is how people always talk about how he was drafted last when we've seen this story before. Kurt warner literally went undrafted and look how good he was.
Same goes for Tom Brady, Who was basically on nobody until the Bledsoe got hurt
Didn't Kurt Warner play in NFL Europe before he got to the NFL tho
Good QB on bad team: Damn, if only he had some better players around him he'd be great.
Good QB on great team: Pfff he's only good because of the great players around him
Great vid. But I disagree with the final sentence. If Brock plays shit in the SB it says a lot, and everyone will slam him. But I truly think win or lose in this one game he is on a path to becoming truly truly elite. Yes it will be hard to win everyone over again but it’s something I could see him do
he’s purdy good
Thanos “I am inevitable” but to this joke
Ba dum tss 🥁
The question as to whether he is elite is a bs distinction. There is no objective definition of what an elite quarterback even is. It is entirely subjective. I would suggest some criteria -
Wins
Wins a lot
Wins from behind
Wins over an extended period
Wins big games
Maintains excellent stats
Plays well in all conditions
Plays well against other great quarterbacks
Wins Super Bowls (optional - see Dan Marino)
Of course he's good he's still the ones making the throws Anyone who says he's not is a hater. It's the NFL and he's in the Superbowl. Aaron Rodgers has 1 Superbowl that's how hard it is to make it and even harder to win. It's the coaches job to use a system that best fits the QB why would they use one that doesn't
He’s being carried. Don’t get me wrong he is good, but he doesn’t go to the jets and be who he is. The games they lost last year CM was held to under 60 yards which made Brock Purdy throw more and was throwing picks left and right. It’s a great system, it took Jimmy G to a superbowl
Good thing he is not on the Jets, then. These hypotheticals are ridiculous. How good has Aaron Rodgers been for the Jets?
@@hollyprice4351How are u gonna say that when you obviously he was injuried on the fourth play😂
Kyle was aiming to sign Kirk Cousins before they went to Jimmy G. Brock Purdy now seems like a younger version of Cousins
Nah, Cousins is immobile, Brock is as quick as CMC over 10 yds, 1.55 seconds. Lamar J is 1.54 seconds.
@@clu4uyou might catch me but not yet! LoL
It takes a village, u didnt see SF go anywhere with trey or jimmy
7:36 doesnt look like a Game Manager pass to me
There is no middle ground with Purdy, Hes either called crap from casual fans or people who go way overboard, or 49er fans or casuals on the other end of the spectrum call him elite and the next coming of Joe Montana. Truth is he is both actually, he makes a couple plays a game that are unreal and truly elevate the team, but he also makes many plays a game where he looks woeful. And the rest of his Qb play is generally pretty good. Thus he is just good, not top 10 or wtv but just a decent to good QB, also he played like crap these last two games and I will stand on that, well maybe not "crap" against the Lions, but not well
He's top 10. People buy into raw fundamentals of ther guys but he's got the right intangibles and the numbers to back it up. Ask me to name who I'd want starting a super bowl right now, and outside of Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford, and *maybe* Josh Allen, I'd have a hard time taking anyone else. Lamar, Tua, and Dak had good years but Brock has ice in his veins by comparison.
I'm not gonna crown him best 9ers QB since Young, he's still got some time left to prove that and Id like to see him do so without the stacked elite cast around him. And he's had a bit of a rough postseason but he's still rallied. But so far he's done almost everything he's been asked of.
@@bmac4
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Lamar
Dak
Stafford
Maybe Rodgers depends if he comes back healthy
T-Law(maybe idk)
Cousins
Stroud
Love
People claiming Purdy wasn't a top 10 this year are outing themselves are casual.
@@gregpenismith1248 is he better than any of the guys I mentioned? Maybe Lawrence, maybe
The problem is people insist on having this “fan” conversation of wanting to rank him.
Why can’t he just be “Brock Purdy, the best 49ers QB since Steve Young”. That is pretty much factual. To be able to know what this kid will eventually be we need a bigger sample size, right now he’s giving the 49ers elite QB play, that is also factual, be it by his supporting cast or else, it’s still elite QB play. One day we will know more, but, for now, he’s OUR QB in the Super Bowl, so, to the 49ers he’s the best QB in the world right now!! He’s one of two QBs standing, and he’s the best 49ers QB since Steve Young with a shot at winning a Super Bowl, and that is awesome.
To answer your question....perhaps.
If being game manager means you only play simple correct play (not flashy one) one after another consistently then I think be the best game manager is not really that bad.
The thing i find annoying is when people say Brock is like the 10th best on his team, sure, but id argue that dak, Lamar, hurts and goff are barely above top 10 on thier respective teams, out of the final four teams in the playoffs this year, i think the only qb who is easily a top 5 guy on his roster in mahomes. I feel purdy gets a lot more hate bcs his players are skill position and get more of a mention, whereas dak, Lamar, goff and even mahomes all have at least 2 more elite o line players and an overall significantly better o line, so the level of talent on their rosters gets overlooked a bit more. Not to say purdy doesnt have a better team around him but it isnt as much of a gap as it seems to be made out to be. So while i dont think Brock is a top 4/5 qb in the league he is an elite qb and has skills that most other qbs in the league cant do. Oh yeah and hes a 2nd year guy
Brock Purdy 100% has that dawg in him and it's pretty clear from anyone who watches his play and interviews.
The difference between Brock Purdy and all the other quarterbacks is that he is a scrapper besides Josh Allen I’ve seen other quarterbacks like Cam Newton get hit hard and they get intimidated and can’t bounce back from that Once you play an elite defense, now I believe that is what makes Brock Purdy u know what I mean? The fact that he is not afraid to get hit And he makes plays and scrambles when he needs to his IQ level in football is above and beyond some of these quarterbacks that’s what makes Brock Purdy elite for me.
Jerry Rice said he reminds him of Montana. How good is that? Fucking amazing.
I won't doubt that Brock Purdy is any good, Yeah, he's on a good team with a good system. But still he knows what he's doing.
However, I do wonder if he's gonna be able to keep this up for years to come Or is this just gonna be another short Cinderella story type 🤔
As a fan, Brock is fun to watch and easy to cheer for.
Game manager = see slant pass make slant pass. Game changer = see slant pass, run around in circles then make slant pass in the third window. Give me the game manager.
Game manager = sees 1st read covered, takes sack or throws it away. Game changer = sees 4 reads, escapes the pocket, finds someone 30 yards down field on the scramble drill and somehow completes the pass. That's the difference, I've seen Brock Purdy do the latter quite a bit the last two years
@@BuPan so Brady, Manning , Montana does all that or do they read defenses quickly and slice em up. The only reason you gotta run around is that you can’t make the reads fast enough.
Not always true. When the protection breaks down he can stretch the play or find his receivers where he tells them to go. He is unbelievable.
@@TheH8trs Absolutely they've all had to do that due to coverage and they have. Manning and Brady weren't always statues in their career and I have seen Joe do that exact thing. There's actually a short of Brock and Montana rollout comparison and the play is eerily similar. It's on RUclips so it should be easy to find.
@@TheH8trsPurdy makes the reads and makes the throws if they are there. When he scrambles his eyes remain downfield. He sees lanes to get first downs tho if need be but hes not looking to run first.
Elite status has a time element truthfully.
He's an elite game manager
You can’t rank him against other players on a team. A QBs weight value is 10/10. A D-lineman’s weight value is 5/10. Linebacker 5/10.
Even a receiver is no more than 6/10.
So even if a linebackers skill level is 9/10, his weight value is only 5/10.
A team can still win without a linebacker, a receiver, an O-lineman… but if you take out a QB there is zero chance of winning.
Yup look what happened when we lost Brock in last years NFC CG still had all our other weapons and whatd it amount to absolutely nothing couldn't get anything going at all
they have no o line besides a left tackle
Joe Montana had Jerry rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig , Brent Jones, Tom rathman. Nobody holds that against Joe now .. LETS GO NINERS ⛏️⛏️⛏️⛏️⛏️⛏️
You can’t be elite in your 2nd year. But he’s playing at an MVP level and if he continues just as he is, will be elite. This isn’t rocket science
What i notice is most the hate coming at Brock is from Homie's. And with that, u know the reason. They still think Cam is a good QB {so does Cam...lol}
Literally the starting quarterback of a super bowl football team
-iS bRoCk PuRdY GoOD?!11
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Trent Dilfer
As a lions fans, yes, he is good.
No. Brock Purdy is freaking amazingly great!!!
Bro is him
“He’s Purdy fucking good!”…
Time to talk about that San Diego Chicken.
He is
For the second time in an hour on totally unrelated places on RUclips, to totally different people, I’ve felt compelled to say: you’re using the phrase “begs the question” totally wrong.
Joe Montana had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Brent Jones and John Taylor. He had an awesome O line....Was Joe Montana carried?
yes.
The air carried the ball purdy threw lol
This is the most dumb question I ever heard.
I dont understand why tou compare purdy to warner and not to brady 2:15
Truth is he is one of the two starting QB's in the Super Bowl. His team just needs Purdy to be Purdy
Hes Elite, and you sound like you dont watch Niner games. You didnt bother to show his incredible TD vs the Jags, and you didnt really break down any tape.
I’d rather have Brock Purdy in a playoff game than Lamar Jackson. You play better coaches and defenses the playoffs and you have to have downfield vision
Yes he is good. No debate.
He is good but I think Jeff Garcia would be amazing on this particular Niner team
You do know Jeff had prime TO? I remember watching him constantly carry like 3-4 guys on him trying to take him down
@@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni look at his stats in Philly nuff said
I could probably throw for 1-2k yards and 10 touchdowns if I had deebo, McCaffrey, kittle, and aiyuk
Not behind the niners offensive line you couldn't guarantee you'd be injured before the season is over our Oline is really bad think about this even with HoFer Trent Williams playing on it they are ranked something like 20th in pass protection that's how bad we are with him just imagine the other sections of the line
Good QBs don't have 4 INTs and get benched for Sam Darnold.
girl from tiktok btw
A video of saying a whole lot of nothing. Brock puts the ball where it needs to go, that's what a quarterback does and he does it better than 99% of the league.
When he entered training camp he was the 4th string QB. Had to beat out Nate Sudfeld who they signed to 2 million guaranteed in the offseason
So? You think Nate Sudfeld is gonna put up MVP numbers? No.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 cool story. What are you even on about?
@@gregpenismith1248 the frick you think? Did you even read the original comment?
He is Purdy good.
Brock is getting the Steph curry treatment.
I think he's top 10, but the only way to figure out if he's truly elite or not, is through the passage of time. We have to see how he does in the Super Bowl, and we have to see what he does beyond just a season and a half. We will probably get a pretty good answer as to where exactly he falls after the 2025 season or so.
he's purdy good
He’s great
Damn!
If your irrelevant, than you matter. Always love yourself . Also purdy is like mahomes. Excerpt Purdy doesn't suck like mahomes. Machokes will be his name after Purdy is done with him. Sorry patty mayonnaise
If the team is so great and you have to be mediocre to win how come Trey Lance couldn’t do it?
Please do a lions video
Yes
We called Brady a game manager for yrs and praised him for it. 9ers fans hear Game Manager and start crying how they’re underdogs (favored in every game this yr btw). Purdy is a good QB that is blessed to be playing with the Justice League and Avengers on both sides of the ball. To me he’s more Kirk/Dak than Allen/Mahomes and that isn’t a bad thing.
theyre both game executives now
Lol... Yuck 🤢
Yes.
I'm not sure how good or bad he is there is still a lot of time in his career, with that being said I feel like the nfl wants SO BADLY to keep the Mr. Irrelevant narrative they over hype him. Look at Jimmy Garoppolo, they made it to the super bowl with him and he is ass. So it's just hard because people want to be right and say I told you so, and the opposite happens people want him to be bad and they become hell bent on bring right. Time will tell what he becomes.
Mahomes inherited a loaded team when he started so the loaded team thing besides the fact its the NFL is a dumb argument