Technical advice @TechFlow Stop using CAT 5e...or any CAT 5 what so ever... Standard as of +/- 4 years ago is CAT 6 and if you are running external cable or just one or two strands...run CAT 6A... is a bit thicker but it is way better... and yes I know the connection is limited to what ever the NIC in the computer and the Switch are capable of vs. what the ISP provide... for few quid's more you can build a nice 10G capable LAN...allowing the customer the opportunity to be ready when the ISP provided 2.5G or 10G service... just a suggestion....
4 different wireless networks broadcasting different SSIDs? What about the management overhead frames?!? Have you ever thought about just deploying two access points in bridge mode and disabling the wireless on router and having that as the network gateway? Some AP's support band steering so steer clients to the 2.4 or 5 ghz radios based on the clients capabilites. I would have personally run Cat6 which can support mGIG (10Gbps over Copper) up to 55m.
I work as a cable tech with those same cable modems and they do a great job wit channel optimisation turned on. You really should not set a static channel because the surrounding devices can chance and make your wifi experience worse. Still a nice video
Exactly mate never turn off smart WiFi it actually works now. Looks like a fttp setup! Your amazon link for Ethernet cable is using CCA cable which isn't even to the Ethernet standards not recommended at all
I am an in-house tech too and you are exactly spot on about other smart routers changing bands and thus allowing your home router to enter heavy congestion it can't switch out of. As for Band steering is done automatically and this guy is making it manual and flawed. Like it was in the late 90s. The pleb
I feel philosophical when I watch ya boy the flow. As cursed as his content can be, he's doing a indispensable service for the layman. I respect his self taught knowledge and drive, and his content is always entertaining. Shine on you crazy diamond.
You call yourself a network engineer yet you're still using a Combi Drill to go through walls. You seriously need to buy an SDS drill. And that (7:25) is what happens when you don't take a drill out of hammer mode when drilling the last few mm. You should always let the drill do the work, applying pressure to the back of the drill can also be another reason for brick blowout.
Funny you mention let the drill do the work. If you understood how an SDS bit works it doesn't work by drilling in the conventional sense, it works by percussion, that's why it would take forever and STILL blow out a small piece of brick even turning off the hammer. Holes are sealed and covered with wall outlets or grommeted to look cleaner. Unless you are lucky to drill through the mortar you are not going to prevent a small chip of brick coming off. Don't even dare tell me you can as you don't do it for a living.
Ideally you should not recommend CCA cable, it is of far lower quality than solid core copper cable. You should certainly not use CCA cable for PoE, due to higher attenuation, higher resistance and potential overheating issues. You can keep joint SSIDs, most client roam seamlessly nowadays. You can use Wi-Fi analyser apps in order to see which bands are free near/around your house.
I came to comment exactly the same thing, if you seperate the network you'll end up with issues with roaming when travelling around the house because the handoff between two seperate networks as opposed to a single combined network is significantly slower and will kill your connection temporarily
Just a reminder for everyone watching this video , he is not a network engineer. Please go and do proper research before implementing anything you hear in his videos. This video isn’t overly bad however the majority of the things he does are poorly executed. Now if he was just a hobbyist then no harm done but trying to educate people with a lack of knowledge yourself doesn’t make for the best learning. I think he would really benefit from doing the ccna course to build his fundamental knowledge. His head and heart are in the right place but again he’s not a professional so at least Google the things he says before you run and drill holes in your walls and tell people that ping measures how many times devices send a message to each other. Thank you
@@kwtattoos I mean if that’s all that qualified someone to be a network engineer I’m sure people would rather spend the cash and become an isp than study for a year for the CCNA. My point here is that while he might run an internet company and he might make videos talking like he knows what he’s on about it’s pretty clear that he’s done abit of RUclips research which is great but he ultimately doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’ll put it this way if something properly goes wrong and someone who he’s providing internet for phones him he will need an actual network engineer to fix it , I don’t know if that makes sense hahahaha but that’s what I mean. Take what he says with a punch of salt as I said he claimed ping was measure of how many times two end points communicated with each other.
@@decentcomment9447 ccna is possibly the most boring exam i think iv ever done tbf hahahaha i know what you ment i was highlighting the irony of the advice vs his job lol
@@kwtattoos hahahaha sorry missed the sarcasm must have been writing in a pure rage my bad lol. Yeah your right it’s just silly that people think he does much more than by some net gear routers or whatever he uses and connects then to his main service router. But then he spouts nonsense like this and people think he’s a network engineer
@@kwtattoos yeah, so if i start a datacenter, does that mean i know how networks work or how to set up servers? Running a company does not mean you know all ins and outs. And yes, he does explain basic functions horribly wrong.
It's not easy to stand up a ladder holding an SDS drill with a 450mm drill bit. You can avoid blowing the brick by putting less pressure on the drill as you are drilling. It's also best to turn off hammer mode when you are close to drilling through the brick.
Why did you need to overstate the effectiveness of splitting the channels. You did the 20mpbs upstairs, Then connect to the 5ghz right next to the router? Why not do the test in the same place and show the difference first between 2.4ghz and 5ghz at a distance?
Well I am grateful for this. I love your videos especially for people who don't have as much tech knowledge as you. My old stone bungalow has bern plagued with crap wifi for years. I have virgin 1gb fibre but have various spots around the house where my ring cameras drop off WiFi constantly and my sky q has the same problems despite having had at least 10 sky q specialist engineers try to solve it. I wish you were in my area.
Very easy Mark, if you have access to the outside walls or you can go straight up into the attic space, install ethernet and faster WiFi around the house.
That is not true, the router that he used upstairs cannot do higher that 1gig speed in its Ethernet ports, and cat5e is perfectly capable of running it, is not needed to use more expensive category if they are not planing to move to 10gig link, wifi 6 will have the same benefits no matter the Ethernet cable that they use (better speed,low latency, capable of handle more devices connected to wifi, etc) also seems that they are only planning to use that link for internet access that's already limited to the 600mb speed of the ISP. So no real benefit in this case to move to a 10gig link. If for some reason you have planed to have some internal servers in your house or have a an internet speed higer than 1gig then probably is worth to do the upgrade to a 10gigabit link and cat6
2:40 what are you talking about. They are broadcasting both the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands. They make use of band steering so clients are connected to the best channel. Why are you using WPA 2 when it has WAP3? 9:46 One more example of a clueless person who thinks he's a network tech after setting up a VLAN
Yes, this is so true, in home use Band steering is even recommended. "Chose a best channel what give you best speed" Omg I LOLed so much. It will not work like that. Sometime one channale may be occupied sometime other and even there may be some interference, best is to chose channel that is less occupied, for that use WinFi if you use windows machine. Also in 2.4 Gz you should only use 1,6,11 those are channels that don't overlap. I would have set up Wi-Fi differently.
Surprised you went cat5e as opposed to cat6 given future proofing etc. Especially as he's already getting big boy speeds. Price difference would have been minimal no?
Best e settings for wifi Google dns or cloudflare RTS threshold to 10 or 50 or 100 40 mhz capacity Fragment threshold to 255 Higher channel number 800 microsecond guard interval
right now, even 20mbps sounds like a dream for me. I pay for 75 down and 20 up and dont even get half of that even when im sat next to my router. Feeling scammed rn
Maybe it wouldn't be as inexpensive, but I think it would be better to buy a mesh wifi system (and maybe a cheap ethernet switch). That way when your wireless devices roam the house, it much more seamless.
One thing to consider that I haven't heard anybody suggest yet....that black paint that blocks WiFi signals....you can really clear up your channel pollution by painting the adjacent walls of your neighbours with WiFi paint to block your signal going to them....and their signal coming to you. This helps with reducing ping and packet loss.
@@davidbell7094 they would see the net effect being that only their own signal will be nice and strong but your signal isn't interfering with theirs and they get better WiFi as a result. It's good all round with no losers.
Someone who only knows half the information is dangerous. Even the simple jobs were screwed up. You always drill an exterior hole downhill from the socket to prevent water. Use a bit of plastic pipe to carry through the cavity for the cables to run. Then seal the pipe and the cables with a silicone. Don't even get me started how he just left a cable underneath the lead flashing.
Wow that it was unpossible using an other cable in the house and replacing that for a UTP cable. But setting up 2 different brands wifi products on the same SSID etc will it automaticly switch to the correct network? Normally it stays very long at the accesspoint you connected first. That was one of the biggest great things of the Unifi Accesspoints that you can roam steamless between AP's. Is Unifi not a sponsor anymore? ;-)
I don't understand why he didn't go for mesh network, the cost for the ethernet outdoors is 60, the router is 60 in addition to tools, plates, safety on a roof. Your talking £120 minium alone. For that he could have got a 3 way tplink deco mesh system like I have. Set the virgin router in modem mode which you can do on the superhubs as I have one and then mesh dot the pods around the house. Seamless no drop of speeds for. WiFi. I pay for 200mpbs for virgin on Wirless I'm always achieving 180 on my mesh system. The system has a smart enabled feature to enable 5ghz and 2.4ghz for certain devices like my ring etc... And the pods have 2 ethernet inputs. 1000mbps max. So if I was to ever increase my Internet I can.. Plus the fact that the rubbish superhub is no longer acting as a router just a modem leaving the mesh to to make the most distribution, range and signal. Each mesh connects up 2800sq ft! Between meshes so your pretty much covered and my house is big. You can pick a 3 pack mesh deco on amazon right now for £99. So regarding cost and knowhow. I think alex got this wrong here. Especially knowing the superhub has modem mode.
I just need to be in a area that has other option other than SKY and Virgin. Literally can’t get over 67MB down and 10 up in my area… sucks… taking me like 6-7 hours to install huge games
Those Virgin Hub 3 are rubbish i'm on my 3rd one this year until i was offered a 4 for a trial and the new one sorted my upstairs speed to what i was receiving down stairs.
You really shouldn’t separate 2.4ghz and 5ghz if your router happens to have good band steering, never seen ISPs leave the same SSID for both on a shitty router.
Whats wrong with cat5e?. I'm a network engineer and I just ran 24 cat5e drops in an office. Cat5e is capable of gigabit for a fairly long distance, not to mention how cheap cat5e is. the next step being cat 6 which is capable of 10gig, sure thats cool and more prepared for the future but what the fuck are you realistically gonna do with 10gig in a home. 10gig internet is still a long long long way away
I´m astounded that you used a Cat5E cable instead of Cat6. I know that the length wasn´t too long, but it´s nice knowing you have something in reserve 😀 But the install was real clean, so this brings on a sub 😁
@@fernan5320 Why??? what do you have on your network? even cat 6a is capable of 10gig at like 100M Dont think you can even get an internet speed at 10gig anywhere residential atm
Honestly for 99.9% of installs CAT5E will suffice. From memory specs rate CAT5e for 10GB up to about 50 metres. And domestic installs generally aren't using 10GB. If you are doing a "money no object" commercial install by all means go for higher rated cable but for a domestic install its just not necessary. Cat5e cable is usually cheaper and better to save money on cable and spend it on a better router, access points, etc.
If you have any virgin bosters don’t separate network name as they only work in 2.4 ghz mode so only keep it to one wireless name but you can set your own
@@Devil-dt9vc 1) If you go to all that trouble to install a cable, install a future proof cable, so definitely not CAT5e. 2) never drill from the inside out, your stone will break off on the outside (which you could also see in the video) 3) If you buy a Wifi6 router/access point, make sure it has at least a 2.5gbit port. 4) speedtest is not a test, Iperf3 on an internal machine is. 5) Seeing the other comments on this video confirms my comments. 🙏
If you drilled from the outside in through the mortar instead of inside out and hitting the brick he would have had a nicer finish instead of that hole at @7:24. The tool you used to punch cables down is called a punch down tool, crimpers are used to crimp the cable to RJ45 connectors/boots, not punch down to a junction on a faceplate. I'm also surprised you don't host your own Unifi cloud controller and use a Unifi AP, they're perfect for this kind of thing and look really aesthetic. As long as the customer is happy though (:
Most times we drill inside to out in order to avoid internal pipes, radiators etc. Sometimes you will hit brick and you're right. Its just safer to do it in inside to out.
I've noticed that you use DFS channels on your wireless route for 5GHz, maybe you could explain next time in a bit more detail on what channels are available for UK residential properties.
Because if the customer needs more speed, he needs to swap the cable, so he can charge more... I think thats behind it. i always install cat7 cables, the difference isnt that much and i charge less for my work hours so the customer at the end will be happier than ever
wanna come to America and set mine up? 😂 I run on a wireless connection (mobile broadband) Can you maybe do a video similar to a wired connection with mobile broadband?
Good job on video. What was the speed on the phone when next to the modem/router downstairs prior to you separating the combined signal into two separate ones?
Why are you telling people to separate WiFi frequencies, majority of modern devices can roam between them absolutely fine. You clearly not as clued up on this. Also leave the channels to automatic
Because when you are in the same room and 5ghz is powerful enough, it's faster. It's that simple. If they are seperated onto channels where there is no/low interference, again this is good.
@@Bawlk I'm so glad someone understands this, people won't realize that if every device is connecting to the same frequency then it'll cause a massive congestion...
@@XeonOfficialRUclipsChannel I'm not sure he does. He said to leave the channels to automatic....that's what causes channel congestion, especially in blocks of flats and halls of residence. It's better to manually set them on the less congested channels and review on e or twice a year
Brilliant. Thank you for this, as I had mine configured as the same name. I will kick everyone off the internet and change it to allow 2.4 and 5 to be separate. Next stage is to convince "Her that must be obeyed" to let me buy more equipment lol, so I can upgrade to Wifi 6e
few things: people have been mentioning why use cat5e, and I'm the same. why? im loving and hating the pronunciations of "router" and "ethernet". might be just a location thing though. and also: PLEASE USE T-568A INSTEAD OF B! only actual techs choose B, I dont know why. the people who run and terminate your cables are usually electricians who always always terminate in A. makes it easier if your friend gets someone in to do other work, messes up the cable and tries to re-terminate the cable. this has happened to me many times with contractors/builders etc
Perhaps you should learn how to install cable through walls before doing tutorials? Everything you did is encouraging water ingress and damp. Not to mention the brick you destroyed.
Alex. Do you have any tips on how to manage a sky router and how to change the Wireless Channel? Or he to change it to 5GHz. When I try it usually comes up with a username and password which I don't think I have one.
hey alex genuine question trying to sign into my sky router people say the username is admin and password is my wifi password but wont let me sign in help me please
I don't understand why you didn't go for mesh network, the cost for the ethernet outdoors is £60, the router is £60 in addition to tools, plates, safety on a roof. Your talking £120 minium alone. For that you could have got a 3 way tplink deco m4 ac1200 mesh system like I have. Set the virgin router in modem mode which you can do on the superhubs as I have one and then mesh dot the pods around the house. Seamless no drop of speeds for. WiFi. I pay for 200mpbs for virgin on Wirless I'm always achieving 180 on my mesh system all around the house. The system has a smart enabled feature to enable 5ghz and 2.4ghz for certain devices like my ring etc...and optimizes best channels etc.. And the pods have 2 ethernet inputs for direct connect which at that point I get a full speed of 200mbps the system is also 1000mbps max. So if I was to ever increase my Internet speed I can.. Plus the fact that the rubbish superhub is no longer acting as a router just a modem leaving the mesh to to make the most distribution, range and signal. Each mesh connects up 2800sq ft! Between meshes so your pretty much covered and my house is big. You can pick a 3 pack mesh deco on amazon right now for £99. So regarding cost and knowhow. I think you got this wrong here Alex. Especially knowing the superhub has modem mode in addition to the capabilites of adding more meshes to your system, even different types. In my cases the deco tplink family have many types of mesh devices such as ceiling mesh and mesh pods which I've done. The example I've mentioned with the 3 pods I have, it's only because I was experimenting that the cost of the ceiling mesh was cheaper. Don't really need it but why not. Concerning budget, I think you got one wrong especially it being black Friday and cyber Monday.
MESH networks working on wireless backhaul will never be as fast as networks that run hardwired due to obstacles and obstructions. Fact is, mesh networks that run wired backhauls run much faster. you mentioned you're paying for 200mbps, the owner in this video is subscribed to gigabit, hence MESH wifi on wireless backhauls will not reach such speeds. Wired is king in this instances. my source? I'm a network installer for consumer and enterprise level systems and have installed hundreds of networks. edit: adding on, not ALL IoT devices work well with MESH, sometimes you gotta separate the networks.
@@semajm85 Thanks for the response mate, I agree with the wireless backhaul comment, however, in this instance, the Superhub has a modem function that then allows one of the mesh pods to act as the router which is essential to making sure you get the best out of a mesh system. This certain deco mesh system has a quite sophisticated system that intelligently switches devices like computers and phones to the AP pods with the best signal. Concerning the Mbps, my friend has the same system in place for their office, not a big office but 2 floors and he gets 850mbps speeds on wifi which is sufficient enough. He has a virgin media business 1GB internet. I feel the notion of these Mesh devices have been hindered greatly in the past but the technology has improved, as long as you get a good system then through my and others experience and feedback you'll have no problems. You can never beat wired you are right about that and for a huge home or building, I would never recommend it. But for the hassle of what Alex went through to get the 250-320mbps on wifi. You could have easily got that on a mesh network. This is my experience of it. People talk of the mesh systems like they are extenders, they are not. They are wifi satellites practically dotted around the homes which give you consistent range and speeds around the home via the different radios in the mesh systems and intelligently trafficking information seamlessly. Moreso, Alex himself has set up a mesh network system before on his channel and they worked really well. so I'm slightly baffled as to why he did this. I'm not knocking what he's done, he's shown a guarantee of works through his way which is really good. But for a home and the extra speeds and effort. I feel this way is more suited for businesses as opposed to a home unless the home is beyond 1200sq ft. Just overkill really.
@@youssef.e8173 Running multiple decos wireless is still not ideal when you have houses with thick walls and any interfering objects etc. Sure they work by mesh however the 'child' decos can only boost the network they are able to receive. In this case by the looks of it the guy streams on twitch and thus probably games too, in which you NEED wired for reliability, consistency and good ping. In which can absolutely be done with a hybrid mesh system where one of the deco is still run wired to provide that important connection leaving the rest running cable-less. But yes mesh is a must tbh....using the modem internet and a different router in extender-mode with all those different band configs is very messy, switching between downstairs and up ain't seamless etc.
How much speed do we need honestly? I have a WIFI 6 mesh system in my bungalow and have no issues with it at all, in fact I love it, I struggled to get signal in the kitchen, now I have. I also have a 5g router, however I'm with smarty so it's only currently 4g. For the price of unlimited Internet with smarty and 80mbs speeds and 100+ on a good day I'm more than happy, these speeds are helped with 2 external antennas I have on the roof. 5g SA will be the future.
Technical advice @TechFlow Stop using CAT 5e...or any CAT 5 what so ever... Standard as of +/- 4 years ago is CAT 6 and if you are running external cable or just one or two strands...run CAT 6A... is a bit thicker but it is way better... and yes I know the connection is limited to what ever the NIC in the computer and the Switch are capable of vs. what the ISP provide... for few quid's more you can build a nice 10G capable LAN...allowing the customer the opportunity to be ready when the ISP provided 2.5G or 10G service... just a suggestion....
4 different wireless networks broadcasting different SSIDs? What about the management overhead frames?!? Have you ever thought about just deploying two access points in bridge mode and disabling the wireless on router and having that as the network gateway? Some AP's support band steering so steer clients to the 2.4 or 5 ghz radios based on the clients capabilites. I would have personally run Cat6 which can support mGIG (10Gbps over Copper) up to 55m.
My Advise would be to ditch the ISP supplied router. The Virgin ones can be turned into a Modem, and replaced with a Decent Access point
@@sharkerUK cool sorry bro
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I work as a cable tech with those same cable modems and they do a great job wit channel optimisation turned on. You really should not set a static channel because the surrounding devices can chance and make your wifi experience worse. Still a nice video
Exactly mate never turn off smart WiFi it actually works now. Looks like a fttp setup! Your amazon link for Ethernet cable is using CCA cable which isn't even to the Ethernet standards not recommended at all
I am an in-house tech too and you are exactly spot on about other smart routers changing bands and thus allowing your home router to enter heavy congestion it can't switch out of. As for Band steering is done automatically and this guy is making it manual and flawed. Like it was in the late 90s. The pleb
I feel philosophical when I watch ya boy the flow.
As cursed as his content can be, he's doing a indispensable service for the layman.
I respect his self taught knowledge and drive, and his content is always entertaining.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You call yourself a network engineer yet you're still using a Combi Drill to go through walls. You seriously need to buy an SDS drill.
And that (7:25) is what happens when you don't take a drill out of hammer mode when drilling the last few mm. You should always let the drill do the work, applying pressure to the back of the drill can also be another reason for brick blowout.
He is not a professional…
I’d be fuming if someone blew a brick out like that on my house!
Funny you mention let the drill do the work. If you understood how an SDS bit works it doesn't work by drilling in the conventional sense, it works by percussion, that's why it would take forever and STILL blow out a small piece of brick even turning off the hammer. Holes are sealed and covered with wall outlets or grommeted to look cleaner. Unless you are lucky to drill through the mortar you are not going to prevent a small chip of brick coming off. Don't even dare tell me you can as you don't do it for a living.
cat 5e?why not future proof and go higher pal
Ideally you should not recommend CCA cable, it is of far lower quality than solid core copper cable. You should certainly not use CCA cable for PoE, due to higher attenuation, higher resistance and potential overheating issues. You can keep joint SSIDs, most client roam seamlessly nowadays. You can use Wi-Fi analyser apps in order to see which bands are free near/around your house.
I came to comment exactly the same thing, if you seperate the network you'll end up with issues with roaming when travelling around the house because the handoff between two seperate networks as opposed to a single combined network is significantly slower and will kill your connection temporarily
He don’t care. He’s a Mars bar.
wow Alex thank you I learnt loads from this please keep this channel going for ever
That's not a crimp tool, it's a punch down tool. Commonly known as: Krone
It’s a krone tool - it’s a simple as this .. oh, is it really?
Just a reminder for everyone watching this video , he is not a network engineer. Please go and do proper research before implementing anything you hear in his videos. This video isn’t overly bad however the majority of the things he does are poorly executed. Now if he was just a hobbyist then no harm done but trying to educate people with a lack of knowledge yourself doesn’t make for the best learning. I think he would really benefit from doing the ccna course to build his fundamental knowledge. His head and heart are in the right place but again he’s not a professional so at least Google the things he says before you run and drill holes in your walls and tell people that ping measures how many times devices send a message to each other. Thank you
except he runs an internet company................
@@kwtattoos I mean if that’s all that qualified someone to be a network engineer I’m sure people would rather spend the cash and become an isp than study for a year for the CCNA.
My point here is that while he might run an internet company and he might make videos talking like he knows what he’s on about it’s pretty clear that he’s done abit of RUclips research which is great but he ultimately doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’ll put it this way if something properly goes wrong and someone who he’s providing internet for phones him he will need an actual network engineer to fix it , I don’t know if that makes sense hahahaha but that’s what I mean. Take what he says with a punch of salt as I said he claimed ping was measure of how many times two end points communicated with each other.
@@decentcomment9447 ccna is possibly the most boring exam i think iv ever done tbf hahahaha i know what you ment i was highlighting the irony of the advice vs his job lol
@@kwtattoos hahahaha sorry missed the sarcasm must have been writing in a pure rage my bad lol. Yeah your right it’s just silly that people think he does much more than by some net gear routers or whatever he uses and connects then to his main service router. But then he spouts nonsense like this and people think he’s a network engineer
@@kwtattoos yeah, so if i start a datacenter, does that mean i know how networks work or how to set up servers?
Running a company does not mean you know all ins and outs. And yes, he does explain basic functions horribly wrong.
just a little tip, drill from the outside in, otherwise you will blow the block out.
It's not easy to stand up a ladder holding an SDS drill with a 450mm drill bit. You can avoid blowing the brick by putting less pressure on the drill as you are drilling. It's also best to turn off hammer mode when you are close to drilling through the brick.
Problem 1 router is on the floor
Why did you need to overstate the effectiveness of splitting the channels.
You did the 20mpbs upstairs, Then connect to the 5ghz right next to the router?
Why not do the test in the same place and show the difference first between 2.4ghz and 5ghz at a distance?
The reason, if he would do the test in the same place the AP will band steer the device to the 5Ghz channel proving his point is incorrect.
Well I am grateful for this. I love your videos especially for people who don't have as much tech knowledge as you. My old stone bungalow has bern plagued with crap wifi for years. I have virgin 1gb fibre but have various spots around the house where my ring cameras drop off WiFi constantly and my sky q has the same problems despite having had at least 10 sky q specialist engineers try to solve it. I wish you were in my area.
Very easy Mark, if you have access to the outside walls or you can go straight up into the attic space, install ethernet and faster WiFi around the house.
Honest opinion but, if ur gonna use a WiFi 6 router why use a cat5e cable?? Thats like driving a Ferrari in an underwater track.
That is not true, the router that he used upstairs cannot do higher that 1gig speed in its Ethernet ports, and cat5e is perfectly capable of running it, is not needed to use more expensive category if they are not planing to move to 10gig link, wifi 6 will have the same benefits no matter the Ethernet cable that they use (better speed,low latency, capable of handle more devices connected to wifi, etc) also seems that they are only planning to use that link for internet access that's already limited to the 600mb speed of the ISP. So no real benefit in this case to move to a 10gig link. If for some reason you have planed to have some internal servers in your house or have a an internet speed higer than 1gig then probably is worth to do the upgrade to a 10gigabit link and cat6
no
Oh my John Wayne is back - Why not use a wifi analyzer and check the channel congestion and instead of guessing?
Alex "This needs to be identical to the virgin router" Also Alex... Spells it differently. lol, Nice informative video tho bud.
I literally had this exact same issue with slow wifi up stairs. Ty
Just a heads up to anyone using the VM HUB 3 in modem mode, it has massive performance issues that haven't / won't be fixed.
Also, it has intermittent failure modes by the dozen, requires frequent rebooting and randomly drops bandwidth!
I have tried to configure my parents’ hub into modem only mode and randomly it sets itself back 🤷🏻♂️
Bullshit
2:40 what are you talking about. They are broadcasting both the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands. They make use of band steering so clients are connected to the best channel.
Why are you using WPA 2 when it has WAP3? 9:46
One more example of a clueless person who thinks he's a network tech after setting up a VLAN
Yes, this is so true, in home use Band steering is even recommended. "Chose a best channel what give you best speed" Omg I LOLed so much. It will not work like that. Sometime one channale may be occupied sometime other and even there may be some interference, best is to chose channel that is less occupied, for that use WinFi if you use windows machine. Also in 2.4 Gz you should only use 1,6,11 those are channels that don't overlap. I would have set up Wi-Fi differently.
You know he runs his own ISP
@@ElGust Yes, but he's still clue less.
Anyone can put some crap together and make it work, but he has no understanding of why or how it works
Surprised you went cat5e as opposed to cat6 given future proofing etc. Especially as he's already getting big boy speeds. Price difference would have been minimal no?
Yeah, I guess he just used whatever he had lying around. Cat5e is good for up to 2.5Gbps.. I think UK is many years away from that anyway 😬
@@millsathn 5e is 1Gb max, considering he has 700 using cat 6 should be a no brainer, not to mention he ran it outside exposed to elements etc.
@@Devil-dt9vc it’s 2.5gbps since about 2016 man. IEEE 802.3bz
Best e settings for wifi
Google dns or cloudflare
RTS threshold to 10 or 50 or 100
40 mhz capacity
Fragment threshold to 255
Higher channel number
800 microsecond guard interval
why connect 5E at 2021
I really need this. I can hardly get 2 mb/s in my room. Dont get sky.
I feel for you, I get many people complain regarding Sky's WiFi.
I can get you a deal with virgin mate?
Why did his wired speed change though??
New Ethernet port upstairs can double as a shelf also.
right now, even 20mbps sounds like a dream for me. I pay for 75 down and 20 up and dont even get half of that even when im sat next to my router. Feeling scammed rn
Maybe it wouldn't be as inexpensive, but I think it would be better to buy a mesh wifi system (and maybe a cheap ethernet switch). That way when your wireless devices roam the house, it much more seamless.
This is my favourite content to watch. Please make more Install videos.
First! But most importantly, thank you for all the tech tips that you give, it’s extremely helpful.
One thing to consider that I haven't heard anybody suggest yet....that black paint that blocks WiFi signals....you can really clear up your channel pollution by painting the adjacent walls of your neighbours with WiFi paint to block your signal going to them....and their signal coming to you.
This helps with reducing ping and packet loss.
I'm sure they'd love you for that.
What do i know maybe they really would 🤔
@@davidbell7094 they would see the net effect being that only their own signal will be nice and strong but your signal isn't interfering with theirs and they get better WiFi as a result. It's good all round with no losers.
I used to watch him every dayy
Nothing we didn't know about, i also have wi-fi 6, cheers!
How is Wi-Fi 6 going what speed you paying for and getting out of the package on Wi-Fi 6
Great video. It's always good to get networking tips. More vids please.
It is believed technician but is not, is a guy who knows something but no way at the professional level.
Someone who only knows half the information is dangerous. Even the simple jobs were screwed up.
You always drill an exterior hole downhill from the socket to prevent water. Use a bit of plastic pipe to carry through the cavity for the cables to run. Then seal the pipe and the cables with a silicone.
Don't even get me started how he just left a cable underneath the lead flashing.
please show more about drilling holes and mounting the boxes on the walls
Wow that it was unpossible using an other cable in the house and replacing that for a UTP cable.
But setting up 2 different brands wifi products on the same SSID etc will it automaticly switch to the correct network? Normally it stays very long at the accesspoint you connected first.
That was one of the biggest great things of the Unifi Accesspoints that you can roam steamless between AP's.
Is Unifi not a sponsor anymore? ;-)
Thanks for the video. Why did you not go for a Mesh network with Ethernet backhaul instead so roaming between the access points is seamless?
Cost I'd say
Wired > Wireless
@@ToadyEN I agree.
I don't understand why he didn't go for mesh network, the cost for the ethernet outdoors is 60, the router is 60 in addition to tools, plates, safety on a roof. Your talking £120 minium alone. For that he could have got a 3 way tplink deco mesh system like I have. Set the virgin router in modem mode which you can do on the superhubs as I have one and then mesh dot the pods around the house. Seamless no drop of speeds for. WiFi. I pay for 200mpbs for virgin on Wirless I'm always achieving 180 on my mesh system. The system has a smart enabled feature to enable 5ghz and 2.4ghz for certain devices like my ring etc... And the pods have 2 ethernet inputs. 1000mbps max. So if I was to ever increase my Internet I can.. Plus the fact that the rubbish superhub is no longer acting as a router just a modem leaving the mesh to to make the most distribution, range and signal. Each mesh connects up 2800sq ft! Between meshes so your pretty much covered and my house is big. You can pick a 3 pack mesh deco on amazon right now for £99. So regarding cost and knowhow. I think alex got this wrong here. Especially knowing the superhub has modem mode.
cool info great will look at doing this at my house si=omething like it
Spotted a difference in the wifi name on 2.4ghz network 😁😁
I just need to be in a area that has other option other than SKY and Virgin. Literally can’t get over 67MB down and 10 up in my area… sucks… taking me like 6-7 hours to install huge games
Those Virgin Hub 3 are rubbish i'm on my 3rd one this year until i was offered a 4 for a trial and the new one sorted my upstairs speed to what i was receiving down stairs.
You really shouldn’t separate 2.4ghz and 5ghz if your router happens to have good band steering, never seen ISPs leave the same SSID for both on a shitty router.
Leave the same said ssid and not sperate
We stopped doing that about 10 years ago
No concern about lightning protection for the outdoor cable? Onlly a single run of cable? Cat 5 in 2021? Some things are missing here.
lightning protection lol
Whats wrong with cat5e?. I'm a network engineer and I just ran 24 cat5e drops in an office. Cat5e is capable of gigabit for a fairly long distance, not to mention how cheap cat5e is. the next step being cat 6 which is capable of 10gig, sure thats cool and more prepared for the future but what the fuck are you realistically gonna do with 10gig in a home. 10gig internet is still a long long long way away
Alex thank you so much for this video, this is so what need to be able to fix my wifi. :-)
Always welcome Jessie 🙏🏻☺️
Good to have the videos back, and really informative one!
Thank you Rob! 🙏🏻 Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Not only that it has the same name (SSID) and password but also the same encryption technique (wap, wap2, etc) ....
;)
Why didn‘t you use a U6-Lite from Ubiquiti ?
You make nice practical videos Alex!
Nice.
Thank you.
No one:
Alex: THIS IS A CRIMP TOOL!
I think he meant to say "I am a chimp tool"
Great video Alex - how is this effected with a mesh network?
Weird, my virgin router came with 2.4 + 5 as separate networks by default.
What you have is it hub 2 or hub 2 ac with a virgin logo in a circle ⭕️
I´m astounded that you used a Cat5E cable instead of Cat6. I know that the length wasn´t too long, but it´s nice knowing you have something in reserve 😀
But the install was real clean, so this brings on a sub 😁
Yes cat 5e or 6
Cat 5e is same as 6 but i would use 7
I use Cat8 in our house.
@@fernan5320 Why??? what do you have on your network? even cat 6a is capable of 10gig at like 100M Dont think you can even get an internet speed at 10gig anywhere residential atm
Honestly for 99.9% of installs CAT5E will suffice. From memory specs rate CAT5e for 10GB up to about 50 metres. And domestic installs generally aren't using 10GB. If you are doing a "money no object" commercial install by all means go for higher rated cable but for a domestic install its just not necessary. Cat5e cable is usually cheaper and better to save money on cable and spend it on a better router, access points, etc.
What iPhone app are you using for the wifi speed tests?
What speed test software are you using? As there are many. Thanks
If you have any virgin bosters don’t separate network name as they only work in 2.4 ghz mode so only keep it to one wireless name but you can set your own
they make keystone versions of those wall outlets which are usually toolless
Excellent vid mate, going to be doing a bit of tinkering myself 👍
Cat5e today??? Really? My router and Ipad are getting around 964mb in download. This video could be 15 year old.
5e can do a gigabit which is enough in this case, tho future proofing would be nice considering its 2022 soon xd
@@Devil-dt9vc 1) If you go to all that trouble to install a cable, install a future proof cable, so definitely not CAT5e. 2) never drill from the inside out, your stone will break off on the outside (which you could also see in the video) 3) If you buy a Wifi6 router/access point, make sure it has at least a 2.5gbit port. 4) speedtest is not a test, Iperf3 on an internal machine is. 5) Seeing the other comments on this video confirms my comments. 🙏
no one in the UK gets speeds this high. doesn't matter.
@@bbllaakkee Has nothing to do with this, we are talking about future proof technology and how it’s installed.
need this guy to do it to my house
Great video . Wish I was in a house so I can do DIY.
WiFi analyser tells you channel congestion values. Winner
What song is that at 6:32?
Never or Right Now - Elfl
Virgini media wifi has gone really bad they used to have really good WiFi they limited the bandwidth
If you drilled from the outside in through the mortar instead of inside out and hitting the brick he would have had a nicer finish instead of that hole at @7:24. The tool you used to punch cables down is called a punch down tool, crimpers are used to crimp the cable to RJ45 connectors/boots, not punch down to a junction on a faceplate. I'm also surprised you don't host your own Unifi cloud controller and use a Unifi AP, they're perfect for this kind of thing and look really aesthetic. As long as the customer is happy though (:
Most times we drill inside to out in order to avoid internal pipes, radiators etc. Sometimes you will hit brick and you're right. Its just safer to do it in inside to out.
@@XeonOfficialRUclipsChannel oh yeah, i suppose it is better in that sense.
defooo trying this out!! thanks!!
I have a xr500 and virgin media router. Is modern mode same as access point
I've noticed that you use DFS channels on your wireless route for 5GHz, maybe you could explain next time in a bit more detail on what channels are available for UK residential properties.
Ty is such a cool name
Why did you choose just Cat5e? Cat6 or higher aren’t really more expensive. But can reach more than gigabit easily.
Because if the customer needs more speed, he needs to swap the cable, so he can charge more... I think thats behind it. i always install cat7 cables, the difference isnt that much and i charge less for my work hours so the customer at the end will be happier than ever
8:44 when someone installs a faceplate in the middle of the wall they don't really know what they are doing
Maybe he life in place where high bandwith is unavailable
Besides that, he used CCA CAT5e… Cheapest of the cheapest garbage cable.
wanna come to America and set mine up? 😂 I run on a wireless connection (mobile broadband) Can you maybe do a video similar to a wired connection with mobile broadband?
I do want to know about mobile broadband as well you can also do accsesspoint for mobile Broadband but only if it has a Ethernet port
Good job on video. What was the speed on the phone when next to the modem/router downstairs prior to you separating the combined signal into two separate ones?
Splitting the 2.4 and 5ghz is a bad idea, your devices choose which is best themselves which stops downtime if ur in a bad wifi area
Doesn't really matter when you have good coverage for the 5ghz band, it's actually a really good idea if your house is flooded with IoT devices
I have a 5ghz router in middle of my bungalow and the modems in the front bedroom I get full signal on 5g even in garden full download speed off 60mb
"this is the cheapest wifi 6 access point" uses router
Yes but the router can do Wi-Fi 6 accespoint so it is cheap same as a Wi-Fi exstender can be a access pint
@@choosingmusic11488p you what mate?
When I separated them 2.4 and 5 it said that the channels are clashing or somat
Did you rename at least one of them. It should do it automatically or essentially they are still bonded.
Thanks for new vid hypee
Good looking guy
Why are you telling people to separate WiFi frequencies, majority of modern devices can roam between them absolutely fine. You clearly not as clued up on this.
Also leave the channels to automatic
Because when you are in the same room and 5ghz is powerful enough, it's faster. It's that simple. If they are seperated onto channels where there is no/low interference, again this is good.
@@sleepingwarrior4618 if your in the same room your device will automatically change to 5ghz
@@Bawlk I'm so glad someone understands this, people won't realize that if every device is connecting to the same frequency then it'll cause a massive congestion...
@@XeonOfficialRUclipsChannel I'm not sure he does. He said to leave the channels to automatic....that's what causes channel congestion, especially in blocks of flats and halls of residence. It's better to manually set them on the less congested channels and review on e or twice a year
@@sleepingwarrior4618 no its misleading. You know people will take this as '5ghz is the fastest so ill connect every device to it'
Brilliant. Thank you for this, as I had mine configured as the same name. I will kick everyone off the internet and change it to allow 2.4 and 5 to be separate. Next stage is to convince "Her that must be obeyed" to let me buy more equipment lol, so I can upgrade to Wifi 6e
As a virgin media technician it made me cringe watching you blow the brick on the drill out
😂😂😂😂
I agree with … so unprofessional and a lot people here think he is a pro … incomprehensible
😂 Yea it was awful, he should have a silicon gun and a big plastic patch like you VM techs use
And not the faceplate in the middle of the wall?
You work at VM and call that a blow out? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
few things:
people have been mentioning why use cat5e, and I'm the same. why?
im loving and hating the pronunciations of "router" and "ethernet". might be just a location thing though.
and also: PLEASE USE T-568A INSTEAD OF B! only actual techs choose B, I dont know why. the people who run and terminate your cables are usually electricians who always always terminate in A. makes it easier if your friend gets someone in to do other work, messes up the cable and tries to re-terminate the cable. this has happened to me many times with contractors/builders etc
Step One: Put the shitty virgin box in the shitter!
Perhaps you should learn how to install cable through walls before doing tutorials? Everything you did is encouraging water ingress and damp. Not to mention the brick you destroyed.
Perhaps it was edited and he didnt show how he resealed it? Quit the hate man.... he got the job done.
@@sleepingwarrior4618 yeah got the job done but he can expect problems in the long run
@@WrestlingFace you don't know that, he probably did tidy up the hole and sealant, drip loop and all the other bits...it was edited.
Few errors made here with channel setup and also security setup, especially for the IOT band band but otherwise not a bad job.
Will give those a try
Alex what speed tester do you use to check the Internet speed
Wifiman
@@kj16210 thanks
Is it better to put the hub into . modem mode?
My max Internet speed is 1.2mbps on good days. Lol
Great video Marz!
Alex. Do you have any tips on how to manage a sky router and how to change the Wireless Channel? Or he to change it to 5GHz. When I try it usually comes up with a username and password which I don't think I have one.
Username should be admin and password is either sky or you Router password on the back of the router. :)
@@madmatt801 Okay thanks so much.
Hi, do you know if you can use powerline adapters as a backhand for a mesh system.
Use MoCA as a backhaul not power line thank me later .
@@matty7846 Only viable if you have coax running to each room you need internet. Otherwise, powerline works great as every room has an outlet.
why not just get a mesh network device say from tp link, a lot less hassle n not wasting money like you have done
Actually much more worth what he is doing
Don’t want the outdoor cable on show… but tacks it up the outside.
It’s not bad it’s quite tidy
EEEEEEE-ther-net
hey alex genuine question trying to sign into my sky router people say the username is admin and password is my wifi password but wont let me sign in help me please
My sky router is admin and the admin again for the password so try that? :)
User name admin password is your wireless password which you get on the network with
Great video!! 🔥🔥🔥
I don't understand why you didn't go for mesh network, the cost for the ethernet outdoors is £60, the router is £60 in addition to tools, plates, safety on a roof. Your talking £120 minium alone. For that you could have got a 3 way tplink deco m4 ac1200 mesh system like I have. Set the virgin router in modem mode which you can do on the superhubs as I have one and then mesh dot the pods around the house. Seamless no drop of speeds for. WiFi. I pay for 200mpbs for virgin on Wirless I'm always achieving 180 on my mesh system all around the house. The system has a smart enabled feature to enable 5ghz and 2.4ghz for certain devices like my ring etc...and optimizes best channels etc.. And the pods have 2 ethernet inputs for direct connect which at that point I get a full speed of 200mbps the system is also 1000mbps max. So if I was to ever increase my Internet speed I can.. Plus the fact that the rubbish superhub is no longer acting as a router just a modem leaving the mesh to to make the most distribution, range and signal. Each mesh connects up 2800sq ft! Between meshes so your pretty much covered and my house is big. You can pick a 3 pack mesh deco on amazon right now for £99. So regarding cost and knowhow. I think you got this wrong here Alex. Especially knowing the superhub has modem mode in addition to the capabilites of adding more meshes to your system, even different types. In my cases the deco tplink family have many types of mesh devices such as ceiling mesh and mesh pods which I've done. The example I've mentioned with the 3 pods I have, it's only because I was experimenting that the cost of the ceiling mesh was cheaper. Don't really need it but why not. Concerning budget, I think you got one wrong especially it being black Friday and cyber Monday.
MESH networks working on wireless backhaul will never be as fast as networks that run hardwired due to obstacles and obstructions. Fact is, mesh networks that run wired backhauls run much faster.
you mentioned you're paying for 200mbps, the owner in this video is subscribed to gigabit, hence MESH wifi on wireless backhauls will not reach such speeds. Wired is king in this instances.
my source? I'm a network installer for consumer and enterprise level systems and have installed hundreds of networks.
edit: adding on, not ALL IoT devices work well with MESH, sometimes you gotta separate the networks.
I tried using top end MESH and returned in the end as didn’t work as well as I thought it would...
@@semajm85 Thanks for the response mate, I agree with the wireless backhaul comment, however, in this instance, the Superhub has a modem function that then allows one of the mesh pods to act as the router which is essential to making sure you get the best out of a mesh system. This certain deco mesh system has a quite sophisticated system that intelligently switches devices like computers and phones to the AP pods with the best signal. Concerning the Mbps, my friend has the same system in place for their office, not a big office but 2 floors and he gets 850mbps speeds on wifi which is sufficient enough. He has a virgin media business 1GB internet. I feel the notion of these Mesh devices have been hindered greatly in the past but the technology has improved, as long as you get a good system then through my and others experience and feedback you'll have no problems. You can never beat wired you are right about that and for a huge home or building, I would never recommend it.
But for the hassle of what Alex went through to get the 250-320mbps on wifi. You could have easily got that on a mesh network.
This is my experience of it. People talk of the mesh systems like they are extenders, they are not. They are wifi satellites practically dotted around the homes which give you consistent range and speeds around the home via the different radios in the mesh systems and intelligently trafficking information seamlessly.
Moreso, Alex himself has set up a mesh network system before on his channel and they worked really well. so I'm slightly baffled as to why he did this.
I'm not knocking what he's done, he's shown a guarantee of works through his way which is really good. But for a home and the extra speeds and effort. I feel this way is more suited for businesses as opposed to a home unless the home is beyond 1200sq ft. Just overkill really.
@@youssef.e8173 Running multiple decos wireless is still not ideal when you have houses with thick walls and any interfering objects etc. Sure they work by mesh however the 'child' decos can only boost the network they are able to receive. In this case by the looks of it the guy streams on twitch and thus probably games too, in which you NEED wired for reliability, consistency and good ping. In which can absolutely be done with a hybrid mesh system where one of the deco is still run wired to provide that important connection leaving the rest running cable-less. But yes mesh is a must tbh....using the modem internet and a different router in extender-mode with all those different band configs is very messy, switching between downstairs and up ain't seamless etc.
How much speed do we need honestly? I have a WIFI 6 mesh system in my bungalow and have no issues with it at all, in fact I love it, I struggled to get signal in the kitchen, now I have. I also have a 5g router, however I'm with smarty so it's only currently 4g. For the price of unlimited Internet with smarty and 80mbs speeds and 100+ on a good day I'm more than happy, these speeds are helped with 2 external antennas I have on the roof. 5g SA will be the future.
I’d love to have Ethernet around the house, better mesh network and a better router at the entry point
LOVE THIS