Hey! I’d love to know why you used a switch instead of going from the Deco straight to the MoCA. Currently trying to solve a problem and that answer would help big time. Thanks!!!😊 - Big fan
@@reginacastaneda4955 you could go straight from the Deco to the MoCA but, i have 12 additional cables running throughout my house so that's why i'm using a switch.
lol @ 1:50 he sets the AP right next to a fish tank. In case anyone is wondering, water is one of the best materials for absorbing radio waves. If you want to block your AP from covering a certain area, this is one of the best ways to do it. It's even better than concrete because it doesn't bounce off and reflect. It just stops it cold.
I have been using an Actiontec MoCA setup in my 3000 sq. ft. home for over 10 years. The main MoCA adapter connects directly to the Internet using ethernet cable via my router. This main MoCA adapter will now send Internet through my entire coax cable wiring in my home. So, I have three MoCA extenders that not only provide direct ethernet cable connections but also contain a dual-band Wi-Fi transmitter. Simply connect a MoCA extender to any coax outlet in my home and Wala I have high speed Internet access. We have coax cable throughout our home and this MoCA system has worked flawlessly. Highly recommend MoCA for anyone having coverage issues but have coax wired in their home. Before MoCA, I tried Powerline extenders but performance was mediocre at best. MoCA uses your home's "shielded" coax cable which protects the integrity of the Internet signal. Great video, thanks!
I've gotten the same moca adapter along with the moca router/extender and I can't seem to get anything connected, I have my adapter connected to the main router via ethernet, than the coax cable running to the router/extender yet can't seem to get internet even though it shows up on my wifi list & the coax cable doesn't light up on either ends of the moca devices even tho being connected directly, is there a way to fix these issues?
@@RiZeEmpire You may have a defective MoCA adapter(s). Test it by simply connecting a short maybe 2 feet of coax cable between the two adapters. If you still don't get the "Coax lights" to shine on both devices, then consider one or both adapters are defective. Good luck!
@@stevenz933It's not always the adapter. Linus from Linus Tech tried using MoCA adapters on one of his employee's internet setup and couldn't get it to work, adapters weren't defective. It depends on the coax wiring in your hous..
Just bought a house a few months ago. First thing I did since I have a full basement is run RG6 and Cat6 to every room. Some rooms have multiple drops if there is a possibility in putting furniture in a different arrangement or the potential need for another jack elsewhere. Long ago, I used to install networks for a big box retailer, so I have the knowledge on how to do this.. Happy I did it. Just hope the next owner realized how nice it is to have the house 100% wired in every room and have an awesome network rack with nicely combed/labeled wires coming into a patch panel... The Coax to Ethernet converter is interesting, always wondered how fast they were. Right now I can get about a gig from any room in the house, and that's nice to have.
Thats something i want but im not smart enough to tackle this myself. The thought of me drilling and making holes in all the walls and not to mention the dangers of the whole operation... my partner will go ape shyt on me.
Just wanted to point out that even with out of use coax there are a few gotchas to watch out for. Splitters inside the walls can lead to problems if they're rated under 1000mhz. Powered "booster" splitters cause issues, and multiple splits can cause issues too. As long as each room is a home-run all should be fine but if there are issues, these are the things to check.
I think this is happening to me. I'm getting really low speeds and a ping of 40-50. I didn't expect to get 1 gbps but something like 400-500 would show me it's actually working. I don't even know how to get to the splitters. I think they're in the walls.
I started doing ethernet over cable / MoCA about 2 years ago. My internet cable modem / my router had to be installed in a closet where house cable junctions were. I wanted to have a hard wired LAN connection for my office network / computers 60' away. Never had any problems with it. Good topic for a video as most people are not aware this can be done.
here is a better idea. I used the installed coax cables in the walls as fish tape to pull the ethernet cables. Doing this worked out very well. it was very easy and cheap to do
@J J the ones in my walls were stapled in using those nails in the shape of a U. it was loose enough for me to easily slide the coax and taped ethernet cable thru it. others might be different but all the ones I had would like this
Totally agree, that is the better answer for regular size homes, but large homes with coax can go horizontal and vertical multiple times making it difficult to pull and more likely to snag somewhere sealed tight with fire resistant caulk or fire blocks. This product completely negates that issue while also letting the user keep there non-moca tv connection completely open and usable.
I have used the ActionTec (now known as ScreenBeam) MoCA adapters for 4 years now and they work fantastic, giving me 1gb wired network speeds all through my home. Speedtest averages around 940Mbps down, 940Mbps up using AT&T Fiber for my internet provider. You can mix other brands in your MoCA network and they'll work fine... I have one of the Motorola MoCA adapters on a guest bedroom and it works with the ActionTec adapters.
I have 3 family members working from home that need hi-speed connectivity in each office location. So does that mean I would need 3 screen beam MoCA adapters, 1 for each room? TIA!
Bro! It’s important to tell everyone that you log into your AT&T gateway and place it in BRIDGE mode, to ensure you allow your Deco system to fully take over. Just turning off the wifi broadcasting won’t do ya any good. You’ll experience intermittent connectivity.
My DECO System issues IP's on a separate subnet than the AT&T Router, so I don't see any benefit in switching to Bridge mode. I am not having any issues and my internet speeds seem fine.
There are really two ways to tackle this. You can disable WIFI on the ATT router and then put your mesh units in access point mode. So they only do WiFi. That's fine. Or you can put it in bridge mode and have the Meshes do everything. The latter is ideal, but some ISPs are real arseholes about not seeing their router live.
We just bought a house in December that was built in 91 that is wired very well with coax all over the place even the kitchen. MoCa saved the day for us! So easy and fast!
WOW, YOU JUST REINVENTED MoCa lol. I am a former DirecTV installer, which I started by 1996. I made my first MoCa connection by 2008, after my MoCa training. Yeah, there is a lot advantage using MoCa, the primary reason was, distance, and time and labor saver. The most important thing I love about it is NOT speed nor packets lost. In some cases MoCa is obsolete use, mean while, for COAX LOVERS it is still a breath.
I also have been using MoCA for over 10 years (Tivo User). The modem router supplied by Comcast/Xfinity has it built in, but I did have to get assistance to enable it. It works flawlessly with no technical setup. I do have a filter to stop the signal at the demarc and a signal booster as I have numerous cable connections and spliters.
Make sure you check behind that coax wall plate. Make sure that fitting is good. Lots of homes with pre-wired coax have bad fittings (braid coming out the back of the fitting, dielectric suck out, excessively long center conductor, braid wrapped around the center conductor) I could go on and on. These fittings were most likely installed by the builder, and they just don't have the experience with attaching compression style fittings.
I see that you covered the RJ-45 CAT5/5E/6 jack with tape, are you planning to replace your existing network cable with MoCA? Unless your cabling is older CAT5 (most CAT5 made in the last 10 years is probably actually CAT5E even if no5 rated as such), then I would not use MoCA as a replacement, only in addition to. My recommended hierarchy of different LAN connectivity is as follows: 1) Fibre (only if money is not really a concern) 2) CAT5E/6/6A 3) MoCA 2.5 (or soon 3.0, but. MoCA adapters can get expensive, at least here in Canada) 4) MoCA 1.0/2.0 (only if 2.5 is not available to you) 5) Powerline networking (preferably the AV2 2000 spec for close to full duplex gigabit speeds, no experience with the latest Gh.n standard from Europe that is used by TP-Link in their latest hybrid powerline mesh wifi system PX50, which unfortuantly wont come to Canada apparently) 6) WiFi (unless mobility is required or not supported, such as new Roku and most smart home devices (don't even get me started in the lack of wired options for smart home devices) WiFi is lowest priority for me. I tell customers all the time wired is ALWAYS superior to wireless, unless mobility is required, most are baffled by this and don't seem to understand. Oh the power of marketing.
I've been using the gocoax moca 2.5 adapters since last summer to get a wired connection into my home theater and it's been great. Just a heads up though that it wasn't completely plug and play in my house. Initially I was only getting about 90 Mbps through it. It ended up being due to 2 issues. One was I have a loose connection on one of my wall plates. The other was due to the cheap splitters that Cox or DTV (not sure who last touched before I moved in) used. Once I redid those connections I'm benchmarking over 900 on my gig connection now. I should fixed the wiring now to the far end of the house to put another node there with an AP to give a stronger connection to my cameras.
Very helpful information, indeed! We have coax cables running to practically every room in our home. Our current setup with Spectrum cable internet is that the internet cable enters our home in the utility room in the farthest north corner of our basement. From there, there is a dedicated coax cable running to my office in the farthest south corner of the basement where we have our WiFi router to send a wireless signal to the entire house (5,000 square feet). We then have a WiFi extender on the main floor somewhat close to the location of the WiFi router in the basement. This has been working pretty well for the most part to get a signal to the basement rooms, the Roku in the master bedroom and kitchen on the main floor and outside in the back yard. I like the idea of using the existing coax cables to increase the signal to other parts of our home. Until recently, our only option for internet service has been Spectrum cable. AT&T Fiber is now available to our home. We scheduled an appointment to have someone come to our home and get us connected but, we were not happy with how they were going to install it. Simply drill a hole straight through the wall (from the inside to the outside) in my basement office which would have been about six feet above the floor. We said, "Absolutely not!". We are going to ask an AT&T rep to come back out so we can discuss in more detail how they are going to get the line from the node to our home, where it needs to enter our home, what will be on the outside, where it needs to enter our home on the inside, what requirements are needed near the inside entry point (electrical outlet, etc.) so we can ensure proper installation. We were not impressed with that initial visit. The main thing is this video opened my eyes to more possibilities and things to consider before we make a change in our internet provider. So, I thank you for sharing this with us!
For ppl who cant figure out their coax, they sell a simple toner at Lowes or Home depot. If you're using a cable company, you will need a mocha filter at the demarc, outside hookup, to prevent mocha from getting in the mainline.
I used MoCA adapters to put wifi into a 15000 sq house a few years ago. They had home run coax to each room. Ended up installing 7 wifi routers to cover the entire home. I used software to see signal strength and moved things around as needed. They had barely any coverage to full coverage. One room on the east end had a 3 foot thick wall of brick and stone from an old expansion. The other part is I had to HIDE the routers....
@@DriveCarToBar I think the idea is that it adds wifi wireless signal strength to all sides of the home. Acts like a mesh system but better, along with extra ethernet plugins for each router. I'm thinking of doing the same but with 2 routers or maybe 3.
@@THANOS_Disciple Don't use routers. Use wireless access points. If need be, put a PoE switch in to run the AP and give you the extra network port you need. There are also access points that will give you an additional LAN port on-board. Unifi and Ruckus both come to mind. Even the TP Link Deco Mesh units give you an additional port.
@@DriveCarToBar I dodn't have much of a choice but to use wireless routers. This was several years ago when ACs were crap. Also, i could not use PoE. There was no direct ethernet. I ended up having to create a moca network for everything.
One tip: Since the deco xe75 pro has three ethernet ports, you can use the 3rd port on your main router to go straight to the moca adapter. I have it setup this way for one less hop to the nodes.
I too have Ethernet running throughout my house from a communications ingress in my first floor closet. Used a MoCa device to hardwire my office that didn’t have a network drop. Very easy to do.
As for the TP-Link Deco Mesh systems, in my experience they are a great bang for the buck. I typically deploy the P9 3 pack (when peak speeds are not required and stability and reliability are higher priorities) due to its use of powerline networking+wifi or ethernet+wifi combined backhaul for homes with walls that impede wireless (structural walls tend to do this, washrooms with a wire mesh in the floor to support tile, etc.) or where there are no electrical outlets available in the ideal locations for each AP (which I find common in homes here). Unfortunately the P9 is EoL and it's replacement the PX50 appears to be US only (TP-Link Canada told me they have no plans to bring it to Canada). I would love a hybrid mesh kit that supports max WiFi 6/6E speeds, ethernet backhaul, MoCA 2.5/3.0 backhaul, and Powerline AV2 2000 backhaul, that would be the mesh kit I'd provide clients without even considering anything else other than Uniquiti UniFi (which of course would be more expensive)
I'll second all of that. I'm a professional IT consultant, and the P9 3-pack has been my go-to mesh kit for the last couple of years. I've worked with all the other major manufacturers' mesh kits, and they all require multiple attempts to get access points online, and then, after the mesh is up, I've often gotten called back when access points fall offline. None of the TP-Link kits I've deployed win speed competitions, but they have yet to generate an unhappy client. They set up like clockwork, usually on the first attempt, and they usually stay up until someone unplugs an access point or the power fails.
@@mar4kl Yeah, the P9 3 pack is great! I used it in a client's home, it's a split-level home with a thick load bearing wall in the middle of the home with no wifi and the home was likely built in the '60s, not sure when the basement was done, '90s or '00s probably, so a mix of older and newer electrical. Could not get a wifi signal from the upper levels to the basement with any normal router or mesh system because of the wall and the available power outlets for 2nd floor were not ideal from a wifi perspective. The P9 solved this problem perfectly, older electrical wiring, bad power outlet locations, thick wall and all! As long as the customer doesn't mind not having peak performance and prefers reliability and stability, then this kit makes for a happy customer! I've used Linksys Velops successfully too and heard good things about Netgear Orbis (mind you, not really a mesh system, but close enough), but despite the lower price points and supposed lack of features (tri-band with dedicated 5GHz backhaul, etc.), the Decos punch above their weight class! Just too bad the P9 is EOL and the replacement PX50 isn't expected to come to Canada. We need more hybrid powerline mesh kits.
After spending thousands of dollars on different routers and Mesh systems over the years, I found this to be a great and fast solution. I used the one with the 2.5Gb ethernet jack and it served as a good backhaul for my Mesh system. Last week my internet provider marked the ground for fibre optic installation. They offer 8Gb internet speeds. I called my electrician and had the whole house done properly with Cat 8 Cables with ethernet jack outlets. Also, I upgraded my Wifi Mesh and purchased 2 Asus AXE 16000 (it has 2 10Gbe ports) routers. Finally, I bought a bunch of 10Gb switches to finish up this setup. The MOCA setup is definitely great for those who need convenience and do not require more than 2.5Gb network speeds.
I dumped my cable TV (keeping ethernet) and then used MoCA adapters with ROKU across my internal coax cables. Works great throughout the house and saved myself $130/mo. Just needed the correct filter where the main coax comes into the house.
My biggest issue so far with ATT Fiber is, they installed the router in my Garage. I am concerned that heat will negatively impact the router come summer time. I may have to consider investing in having a Fiber drop installed from the Entry point of the house to the Wiring closet.
Yeah have been using MOCA for 7-8 years now. It's the backhaul of my mesh wifi network. Most streaming apps work a lot better over a wired connection and MOCA fits the need.
I have fiber run to my house but no ethernet to the rooms. So I used the existing coax with moca 2.5gb adapters, ran the fiber ONT into the moca and then from moca back to ethernet into a pfsense router. Using that existing coax that was doing nothing to avoid running ethernet and destroying some walls. It works!
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to start shipping pretty much any time now. It's rated at 10Gbps. If you're looking at getting into MoCA and can wait a bit longer, it's probably worth it to wait until later this year / early next year for the massive speed boost of the new version.
@@devonsykes2598 - Huh??? Can you point me to a shipping MoCA 3.0 or 3.1 adapter currently on the market? The MoCA 3.0 specs were released in 2018, with the first commercial chips expected to start being available to product manufacturers in late 2022 / early 2023. Once the chips are available, then companies will probably take a couple months to ramp up production of products and put them on the market. There's literally no MoCA 3.1 spec even on the MoCA alliance roadmap, let alone shipping product (which is usually several years after a spec is released). Maybe you're confusing MoCA with HomePNA 3.1? But, HomePNA 3.1 has a maximum speed of 320Mbps, where MoCA 2.5 has a maximum speed of 2.5Gbps and MoCA 3.0 has a maximum speed of 10Gbps.
@@someoneoncesaid6978 no lol moca 3.0 has been homes for years. I’m a cable technician…. I instal moca 3.1 modems on the daily. Very little people still use dated 3.0 modems
@@someoneoncesaid6978 it’s impossible to achieve more than a GB of speed in a coax line anyways. Fiber yes coax is limited. Like I said search up sagecoms wifi 6 or hitron 3.1 moca it’s like a tall box Bassicly
I just did this in my home. I had to use 4 of these devices because not everything ran through the basement hub, but it worked well, and all devices are at (or close to) the max speed that I pay for through my provider
Back in the day, ethernet was run using Coax, so no surprise there. 🙂 The bummer is that we only have three Coax connections in our house, and mostly in the wrong areas for something like this. When we built the house 25+ years ago, we had ethernet put in ... unfortunately for nowdays, all Cat 5. Worked great for many years ... initially ran off a 10 Mbps hub ... but now it restricts anyone on the network (I connect directly to the Router, but no one else can) to about 80 Mbps. I've been thinking about adding Mesh to make my wife happier.
Really so. Ethernet started with thick-coax, then come thin-coax with BNC-connectors, both with tapped connections in the middle, then come AT&T_Systimax + RJ-45 with start shaped cabling, now Systimax is called Cat-cable.
I want to run the reverse… will it work? I’m trying to use my Ethernet wired how to carry a coaxial video signal and also a coaxial data signal? Want to be able to have a cable box but only have cat 6 cable runs.
Steve, i have a larger mid 90s home that has a split design. Could i put the coax converter in a central location and use a splitter and put 2 out on each side of the house for total 3 devices, or do i need four? 2 for each line? does that make sense?
Hi, is there a way to convert the coax wall port to a analog line? My builder put coax cables throughout my house and in my office I have no telephone line port for my fax machine but 2 coax ports.
I’ve been told “MoCA is the home run”. It is amazingly fast. I’ve also found homes that have CAT 5 run for the home phone which nobody uses anymore. That is an easy conversion for hi-speed Wi-Fi.
I'm getting 1GB over my Cat 5, not 5e, but Cat 5. Even had the ability to plug in some POE Unifi inwalls without issue to the regular cat 5, and it works great.
@@adamr4198 That’s what I’ve been doing for several years, I wired every “phone jack” (PSTN?) in my house, to be used strictly used for internet data, it’s nice to have Ethernet connections all over the house…..it just sucks that all these “smart devices” only run on wifi. I’m looking to bypass this crap modem/router (moto BGW210) that AT&T uses for my 1g fiber internet, the WiFi signal blows! I’m thinking I can get by with 2 mesh devices…..any thoughts?
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but it is a good idea to put a MoCA Point of Entry filter on your cable inlet to avoid having your network go back up the cable line outside of your house.
lol, that's too advanced for this RUclipsr. Don't worry, just send all your network traffic to your entire town by doing the method shown in this video. RUclips is great, but sometimes in this example, it's really not. Perhaps the RUclipsr might take a intro to networking class first.
Question: Why use a switch and the deco in the first room at all? Can't you just plug the screenbeam from the cable Modem into the screenbeam directly? Or why plug the Deco into a switch then into the Screenbeam? Concern: I have a new Amplifi Alien mesh router and wanted to use this as my new primary router in the house for the fastest possible WIFI. My issue is that all the coax cables have direct internet access from ISP, but I cant just plug in the screenbeam as a coax to ethernet adapter. SO in one room, I have a coax line split to the screenbeam and my coax router. In the next room, I have a second screenbeam taking the signal and translating it to ethernet for the Amplifi router.. except the Amplifi router cannot put off a new WIFI signal from this. I can test download speed from it via onboard touch screen, and the ethernet cable works from Amplifi to other device.. but I am unable to even identify a WIFI network signal from the Amplifi at all.
Since my router using the coax cable in the gameroom would I use a coax splitter? One side is router other side is the ScreenBeam device? Then I plug in the other ScreenBeam where I want the connect to go?
This was great! It has given me some ideas for how I want Starlink to work with my RV. My RV has an external connection for campground cable on the outside, and it winds up in a closet inside the RV. I am thinking this concept should work - I can connect my Starlink antenna to an adapter and connect it to the external coax port - and then do the same on the inside? Any suggestions would be appreciate. I have seen some folks drill holes to do this, but since that cable is already there, I should be able to use that.
doesn't the starlink dish get it's power from the network cable too? (PoE) it doesn't seem like this 'moca'-thing would support PoE, but i could be wrong...
If you place your mesh waypoints within a proper range from the main hub and the device supports wifi 6E it should always fluctuate between 700 - 900 mb/s wirelessly .
Quick follow up on this. 1st off, thanks for posting! 2nd, he's my current set up. Cable provider comes into house on the COAX. I then have to go from COAX to my modem and wireless router. So that's the set up I currently have and I want to come off the COAX in two rooms straight to ethernet. Is one of these sufficient in each room to achieve this goal? Plain and simple, I want to take my son's gaming computer OFF the Wireless and get him wired to the network directly. Appreciate the feedback!
An aside about device cabinets/Devices/Mounting and cable rounting I'm intriigued by your cabinet device mounting...esp the beam running along the back...it doesn't seem the holes in it are being used....what is it's intent ?...how are you adhering the devices to the back wall ?....Is it an easily found standardized form ? Is it easily cut ? About cable routing....the bane of us all....I've been considering using hot wax to adhere cable tie bases to the route points....I'm afraid of hot weather melting the wax and it's being easily torn away....which would be a good point for re-routing...I was thinking of using a heat gun to "solder" in and "desolder"....any opinions ?
I have frontier internet in southern California and the mocha adapters that they install in my house Would fail regularly and they actually sent a tech out to disable them all. I hope these will work better
Quick question. If you have a cable modem then how do you have an internet connection when the coaxial cable is not connected to your modem. Where is the connection coming from for the internet to your modem. I like this idea I’m just trying to figure out how that part works.
Thanks for the video! I'm in the process of doing this at my house. Have lots of coax, but few Ethernet ports. Mesh system is okay, but loses a lot going through walls, so I want to hardwire the satellites. Router is near a coax, so gotta MOCA that, reroute the coax splitter, then adapt one of those cables to feed the Ethernet switch I added. It's never simple, lol. Kinda sad to see how much signal loss you still get, but it's at least a good improvement over what you had. 🤷🏻♂️
What I have is a MoCA block installed in the ceiling of my basement. So, basically it allows you to pump in the signal from the screenbeam then it sends the ethernet signal out through all of the coaxial terminations in your home simultaneously. So, same thing as you have here except instead of plugging the screebeam into one coaxial, you tie it into the coaxial MoCA splitter block.
now using the backhaul feature would those other ethernet ports become bridged to the main unit? in essence making the other 2-3 poorts not used by the back haul just a network switch
I cut the cord a while ago, but I also ran ethernet cables through my house as well. I plan on using my coax to connect to my antenna (once I figure out how I want that all to be set up. Something else to think about...if you have a cable modem, I'm not sure you would want to use this if the coax is coming off a splitter with your modem. It needs to be separate. It's not that hard to run ethernet cable. I have a hardware firewall/router (that I built using an old pc...you dont need much to run one) that completely separates out any desktop/laptop in the house from any wireless access points. So if someone is a guest on your wifi, they are not able to access any wired devices. I would never rent a modem...that's a big waste of money. I got a great DOCSIS 3.1 modem for under $100. I wonder how much these coax to ethernet cost...might have to check it out to boost my wifi
What did you use for firewall/ router. pfsense or similar? I just installed cat6 throughout the home and want to expand later with PoE cameras. Bought the tolink Dx (step below this One). My coax and phone lines running cat 5 were birdnested all over. I have a dead zone in my home and still struggling with signal in that room. ( no idea why I have an architecture background as well. Just curious on the router/ firewall as I want something more and have some small carcasses to build up. May even look at a pi. Trying to not have wife freak out with me redoing media cabinet ( which I am ). Waiting for good deal on 16-24 port mamaged switch Sucks only having a DSL line to the house. At max end of run with 25/5 speeds. ATT sucks here. Let. Me know on router and how it sorked out. I just want more control. Favor Linux over MS crap.
@@stemmentor9700 I used smoothwall express 3.1 but it's not really in development anymore since around 2020. I like it because it will run on older hardware and it runs on an old PC. You just have to make sure you have at least 3 ethernet cards. One for your internal wired network, one for your wireless access point, and one for your incoming internet connection (coming from your modem). Smoothwall exp labels these Green, Purple, and Red. PFSense would also be a good choice. I've actually been looking at a mini form factor PC to run my router/firewall to take up less space, but you dont need much to run this (as far as hardware)
If you're paying for a 1000 down and 1000 up do you have fiber to the house? If so are you using the cable modem in bridged mode as a residential gateway connenet to an ONU? I would be amazed if you were getting 1000 up via a true cable modem connection.
Yes, you need a minimum of two. I think you can have up to 16 within a house. Each one converts between ethernet and coax, so if you want to connect two devices with ethernet connections (say your cable router and your computer that's in a different room), you'll need one MoCA adapter for each of those two locations.
Great video. I have the same set up as you except my extender is Eero. My cable modem is in the basement. I was able to find the coax to my office which is upstairs. I can see on the Eero app that it is wired to the right room. Unfortunately it is only modestly boosting the speed. I don't think the connections are off so I am trying to figure out why there is no appreciable increase. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Interesting. I use two Amplify Alien mesh routers. They talk to each other at speeds way about my service speed of 150/150mBps without a backhaul. (one upstairs and one downstairs). Half of the downstairs devices connect to the upstairs remote unit. I do have plenty of dark coax. Are all of these devices one-two one? They seem to be sold in pairs. They are cheap enough but it would be nice to split the one connected to the ethernet to service more than one remote location.
You suggested a good idea. However my room has single TV receptacle. How can I use it to connect to the modem and through a coax/Ethernet adapter to the router at the same time?
If I plan to run a deco mesh system with 2 satellites, do I need to do anything to my existing coax cable network? Or just put a Moca adapter at each router? FYI, all my wall jacks run to a splitter in the attic. I don't have any services currently running on this system.
thx for the video. It's great to see double speed of the Deco in the den... but is it possible to get the speed of what you paid for (1000 up & down) in the den? If you connect to the "main" Deco in your closet that connects directly to the cable modem, do you get 1000 up and down?
So, I'm trying to figure out how this sort of system works. Would I just be able to plug the transmitter into any coax outlet and the receiver in any other coax outlet and have it work? Or will the cable splitting off into different areas and whatnot cause issue?
Pretty much. The main unit needs to be plugged in close to where your router is. You plug an ethernet cable into the main unit and then plug that unit into the coax port. You then plug in the secondary unit in the room where you need a connection and that has a coax cable. You plug an ethernet cable from that unit into your computer or network switch or other device.
Question, cable connections are throughout my house. One of them is used to connect to my cable Modem, which is connected to my wifi Orbi router. Can I use a cable splitter and use the same cable outlet that feeds my modem to the screenbeam device to connect to my wifi Router? Will the signal piggyback on the cable to send to a cable jack elsewhere in the house? I have a spot that needs a stronger signal than my mesh system will deliver.
Question,. Can I bypass using another router and still use my modem with wifi capabilities to use the mesh wifi with an attachment via coax? I would love to install a mesh node in another part of the house, but not need another router middle manning the modem and mesh system.
My equipment has a modem and a router provided by spectrum. How do I connect the moca to that setup? I just want to use it to enhance the wifi connection with a wifi mesh.
What do you need the splitter for? Also, if I have a current mesh system and i want to plug a few of them in by ethernet through coax, will they still function properly like a mesh system or will they behave like independant access points?
Great vid! question: I have two homes on my property. I want to connect two routers to two locations connected to the same internet connection. The main home has main internet connection. The second home (mobile home) has the coax connection. Will this give me the solution that I am looking for two separate both routers to two homes connected to one network? Will this also give me two separate SSID? any insight is appreciated!
Is that a deco i see? If you’re thinking to get one then please please please consider your usage carefully. Tplink deco have no fixed ethernet port. If your wan goes down then any lan connected to main hub will go down because it’s searching for wan on all available port. It sucks and Tplink doesn’t seem to want to fix it anytime soon
one thing i dont understand, can you use these when you ALSO have and plan to keep, cable internet over the same coax lines? I believe the answer I came too when I googled this a while back was a tentative yes?
It never crossed my mind convert my house' coax into Ethernet. However what I did was to use the tp-link AV2000 to convert current/power lines to Ethernet. What do you thingk about this conversation? Is it better to use the Coax-Ethernet option? I still have cable with Xfinity so I'm connecting their cable box from a wall coax. Thanks!
I have a question; I live in a rented apartment, and there isn't much I can do or change. I would like to buy this MoCA device, but I have a doubt. If my internet provider uses coaxial cable, I have the modem in my room and the PC in the living room. The question is, to which coaxial cable should I connect the MoCA if I'm already using the output in my room to receive the internet signal?"
I don’t have any network boxes around my house (coax/Ethernet) except for the coax that comes into my house to provide my cable modem and ultimately router with internet access. I want to install network infrastructure in my house so there’s a panel in each room. I can run wires through the crawl space. I was just wondering if it’s necessary to put coax on each of these or would a more modernized setup just prioritize Ethernet? I have no intention of getting a cable TV Service. Also is there any sense in me installing optical fiber into the infrastructure to be ready for the future?
Does this method limit you from using 6E? I thought you would need to run 6E ethernet through your house to use hard wire. Or do you just need to run 6E cable from the coax converter, and it will work?
Been using moca for years now and twice I had a problem with a malfunctioning action tech causing issues and disconnects with the rest of my system. Went through 2 expensive routers last time before unplugging the actiontec and the router worked flawlessly after that. New screenbeam and all is well.
Are all MoCa adaptors the same? Most say 2.5 Gbps, but the pricing differnence is as much at 100 bucks? And ebay has some, new in box, for $60! What do I need to be looking for ? thanks..
Currently I have a second router plugged into my main router, so that way I have an upstairs and downstairs network. Is there anyway I could set the second router to work as an extender rather than making it’s own double NAT network?
Is your 2nd router providing wifi coverage upstairs? If so, see if it has an access point mode. I think most modern routers have this. When you enable it, it disables all routing functionality and just acts as a wifi access point. If it isn't being used for wifi and you need wired connections, it makes more sense to install a network switch instead of a second router.
So my question is if my router that my provider installed is already using coax can i use one screen beam in my room or would i need to run one at the router and one in my room?
Your iPad Air 4th Gen only supports 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands so it wasn't using the 6Ghz band that the deco mesh wifi supports. If you have a 6E compatible device you'll get much faster speeds over wifi then what you showed. The mocas are useful for anyone living in a 2 story brick house with no basement.
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Hey! I’d love to know why you used a switch instead of going from the Deco straight to the MoCA. Currently trying to solve a problem and that answer would help big time. Thanks!!!😊
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@@reginacastaneda4955 you could go straight from the Deco to the MoCA but, i have 12 additional cables running throughout my house so that's why i'm using a switch.
can something like a netgear 4 port switch be used on one of your outlets. Like in a media room where you have computers and other electronics?
lol @ 1:50 he sets the AP right next to a fish tank. In case anyone is wondering, water is one of the best materials for absorbing radio waves. If you want to block your AP from covering a certain area, this is one of the best ways to do it. It's even better than concrete because it doesn't bounce off and reflect. It just stops it cold.
I have been using an Actiontec MoCA setup in my 3000 sq. ft. home for over 10 years. The main MoCA adapter connects directly to the Internet using ethernet cable via my router. This main MoCA adapter will now send Internet through my entire coax cable wiring in my home. So, I have three MoCA extenders that not only provide direct ethernet cable connections but also contain a dual-band Wi-Fi transmitter. Simply connect a MoCA extender to any coax outlet in my home and Wala I have high speed Internet access. We have coax cable throughout our home and this MoCA system has worked flawlessly. Highly recommend MoCA for anyone having coverage issues but have coax wired in their home. Before MoCA, I tried Powerline extenders but performance was mediocre at best. MoCA uses your home's "shielded" coax cable which protects the integrity of the Internet signal. Great video, thanks!
I've gotten the same moca adapter along with the moca router/extender and I can't seem to get anything connected, I have my adapter connected to the main router via ethernet, than the coax cable running to the router/extender yet can't seem to get internet even though it shows up on my wifi list & the coax cable doesn't light up on either ends of the moca devices even tho being connected directly, is there a way to fix these issues?
@@RiZeEmpire You may have a defective MoCA adapter(s). Test it by simply connecting a short maybe 2 feet of coax cable between the two adapters. If you still don't get the "Coax lights" to shine on both devices, then consider one or both adapters are defective. Good luck!
@@stevenz933It's not always the adapter. Linus from Linus Tech tried using MoCA adapters on one of his employee's internet setup and couldn't get it to work, adapters weren't defective. It depends on the coax wiring in your hous..
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@@RiZeEmpire could be a wiring issue with the existing coaxial
Just bought a house a few months ago. First thing I did since I have a full basement is run RG6 and Cat6 to every room. Some rooms have multiple drops if there is a possibility in putting furniture in a different arrangement or the potential need for another jack elsewhere. Long ago, I used to install networks for a big box retailer, so I have the knowledge on how to do this.. Happy I did it. Just hope the next owner realized how nice it is to have the house 100% wired in every room and have an awesome network rack with nicely combed/labeled wires coming into a patch panel... The Coax to Ethernet converter is interesting, always wondered how fast they were.
Right now I can get about a gig from any room in the house, and that's nice to have.
Thats something i want but im not smart enough to tackle this myself. The thought of me drilling and making holes in all the walls and not to mention the dangers of the whole operation... my partner will go ape shyt on me.
@@dfektd1 partner? Business partner? Or do you mean your wife or husband?
@@philmccracken2012 the wifey lol
Just wanted to point out that even with out of use coax there are a few gotchas to watch out for. Splitters inside the walls can lead to problems if they're rated under 1000mhz. Powered "booster" splitters cause issues, and multiple splits can cause issues too. As long as each room is a home-run all should be fine but if there are issues, these are the things to check.
Great advice! Thanks Kevin.
Yes any amplifier has to be moca bypass or it will kill the signal.
I think this is happening to me. I'm getting really low speeds and a ping of 40-50. I didn't expect to get 1 gbps but something like 400-500 would show me it's actually working. I don't even know how to get to the splitters. I think they're in the walls.
@@stevenortiz8525 Any splitters are likely be in the attic, crawlspace, or behind a wall plate as they would need to be accessible if they go bad.
@@reasonerkevin depends on the age of the house. I’ve found them behind drywall in walls and in between sub floors.
I started doing ethernet over cable / MoCA about 2 years ago. My internet cable modem / my router had to be installed in a closet where house cable junctions were. I wanted to have a hard wired LAN connection for my office network / computers 60' away. Never had any problems with it. Good topic for a video as most people are not aware this can be done.
did this today for my ps5 no regrets
I used MoCa 2.5 adapters connected from my router in panel in laundry room to each coax cable and no problems.
here is a better idea. I used the installed coax cables in the walls as fish tape to pull the ethernet cables. Doing this worked out very well. it was very easy and cheap to do
That is precisely my thought and what I was planning on doing, fewer failure points too.
@J J the ones in my walls were stapled in using those nails in the shape of a U. it was loose enough for me to easily slide the coax and taped ethernet cable thru it. others might be different but all the ones I had would like this
Totally agree, that is the better answer for regular size homes, but large homes with coax can go horizontal and vertical multiple times making it difficult to pull and more likely to snag somewhere sealed tight with fire resistant caulk or fire blocks. This product completely negates that issue while also letting the user keep there non-moca tv connection completely open and usable.
Hopefully others aren’t unlucky like myself… installers stapled the coax inside the walls before the drywall was hung.
Perfect! 😂
I have used the ActionTec (now known as ScreenBeam) MoCA adapters for 4 years now and they work fantastic, giving me 1gb wired network speeds all through my home. Speedtest averages around 940Mbps down, 940Mbps up using AT&T Fiber for my internet provider. You can mix other brands in your MoCA network and they'll work fine... I have one of the Motorola MoCA adapters on a guest bedroom and it works with the ActionTec adapters.
I have 3 family members working from home that need hi-speed connectivity in each office location. So does that mean I would need 3 screen beam MoCA adapters, 1 for each room?
TIA!
@@ytvideos101 If they require an ethernet connection and can't use Wifi, then yes.
Bro! It’s important to tell everyone that you log into your AT&T gateway and place it in BRIDGE mode, to ensure you allow your Deco system to fully take over.
Just turning off the wifi broadcasting won’t do ya any good. You’ll experience intermittent connectivity.
Double NAT galore
My DECO System issues IP's on a separate subnet than the AT&T Router, so I don't see any benefit in switching to Bridge mode. I am not having any issues and my internet speeds seem fine.
@@tekshield You're still in double NAT. It won't stop you, but it isn't ideal. Not best practice.
There are really two ways to tackle this. You can disable WIFI on the ATT router and then put your mesh units in access point mode. So they only do WiFi. That's fine. Or you can put it in bridge mode and have the Meshes do everything. The latter is ideal, but some ISPs are real arseholes about not seeing their router live.
@@rickrodriguez121 I should of updated this, I went ahead a put into pass through mode!
We just bought a house in December that was built in 91 that is wired very well with coax all over the place even the kitchen. MoCa saved the day for us! So easy and fast!
How much does it cost to buy a MoCa adapter and install it on each end, on each home run on your network? are these devices inexpensive?
WOW, YOU JUST REINVENTED MoCa lol. I am a former DirecTV installer, which I started by 1996. I made my first MoCa connection by 2008, after my MoCa training. Yeah, there is a lot advantage using MoCa, the primary reason was, distance, and time and labor saver. The most important thing I love about it is NOT speed nor packets lost. In some cases MoCa is obsolete use, mean while, for COAX LOVERS it is still a breath.
I also have been using MoCA for over 10 years (Tivo User). The modem router supplied by Comcast/Xfinity has it built in, but I did have to get assistance to enable it. It works flawlessly with no technical setup. I do have a filter to stop the signal at the demarc and a signal booster as I have numerous cable connections and spliters.
Wish I would have known this 4 years ago
Just a heads up, new high split implementation from Spectrum and Comcast will disable this feature. They will utilize the higher frequencies from MOCA
Exactly
Make sure you check behind that coax wall plate. Make sure that fitting is good. Lots of homes with pre-wired coax have bad fittings (braid coming out the back of the fitting, dielectric suck out, excessively long center conductor, braid wrapped around the center conductor) I could go on and on. These fittings were most likely installed by the builder, and they just don't have the experience with attaching compression style fittings.
And...whats going to happen with a bad fitting exactly?
I see that you covered the RJ-45 CAT5/5E/6 jack with tape, are you planning to replace your existing network cable with MoCA? Unless your cabling is older CAT5 (most CAT5 made in the last 10 years is probably actually CAT5E even if no5 rated as such), then I would not use MoCA as a replacement, only in addition to. My recommended hierarchy of different LAN connectivity is as follows:
1) Fibre (only if money is not really a concern)
2) CAT5E/6/6A
3) MoCA 2.5 (or soon 3.0, but. MoCA adapters can get expensive, at least here in Canada)
4) MoCA 1.0/2.0 (only if 2.5 is not available to you)
5) Powerline networking (preferably the AV2 2000 spec for close to full duplex gigabit speeds, no experience with the latest Gh.n standard from Europe that is used by TP-Link in their latest hybrid powerline mesh wifi system PX50, which unfortuantly wont come to Canada apparently)
6) WiFi (unless mobility is required or not supported, such as new Roku and most smart home devices (don't even get me started in the lack of wired options for smart home devices) WiFi is lowest priority for me.
I tell customers all the time wired is ALWAYS superior to wireless, unless mobility is required, most are baffled by this and don't seem to understand. Oh the power of marketing.
I've been using the gocoax moca 2.5 adapters since last summer to get a wired connection into my home theater and it's been great. Just a heads up though that it wasn't completely plug and play in my house. Initially I was only getting about 90 Mbps through it. It ended up being due to 2 issues. One was I have a loose connection on one of my wall plates. The other was due to the cheap splitters that Cox or DTV (not sure who last touched before I moved in) used. Once I redid those connections I'm benchmarking over 900 on my gig connection now. I should fixed the wiring now to the far end of the house to put another node there with an AP to give a stronger connection to my cameras.
Very helpful information, indeed! We have coax cables running to practically every room in our home. Our current setup with Spectrum cable internet is that the internet cable enters our home in the utility room in the farthest north corner of our basement. From there, there is a dedicated coax cable running to my office in the farthest south corner of the basement where we have our WiFi router to send a wireless signal to the entire house (5,000 square feet). We then have a WiFi extender on the main floor somewhat close to the location of the WiFi router in the basement. This has been working pretty well for the most part to get a signal to the basement rooms, the Roku in the master bedroom and kitchen on the main floor and outside in the back yard. I like the idea of using the existing coax cables to increase the signal to other parts of our home. Until recently, our only option for internet service has been Spectrum cable. AT&T Fiber is now available to our home. We scheduled an appointment to have someone come to our home and get us connected but, we were not happy with how they were going to install it. Simply drill a hole straight through the wall (from the inside to the outside) in my basement office which would have been about six feet above the floor. We said, "Absolutely not!". We are going to ask an AT&T rep to come back out so we can discuss in more detail how they are going to get the line from the node to our home, where it needs to enter our home, what will be on the outside, where it needs to enter our home on the inside, what requirements are needed near the inside entry point (electrical outlet, etc.) so we can ensure proper installation. We were not impressed with that initial visit. The main thing is this video opened my eyes to more possibilities and things to consider before we make a change in our internet provider. So, I thank you for sharing this with us!
Do it yourself or hire a pro
Can you use a 4 to 1 coax splitter at the router? I have 4 coax cable runs and it seems like a lot of clutter at the modem.
For ppl who cant figure out their coax, they sell a simple toner at Lowes or Home depot. If you're using a cable company, you will need a mocha filter at the demarc, outside hookup, to prevent mocha from getting in the mainline.
I used MoCA adapters to put wifi into a 15000 sq house a few years ago. They had home run coax to each room. Ended up installing 7 wifi routers to cover the entire home. I used software to see signal strength and moved things around as needed. They had barely any coverage to full coverage. One room on the east end had a 3 foot thick wall of brick and stone from an old expansion.
The other part is I had to HIDE the routers....
Why did you use routers everywhere?
@@DriveCarToBar I think the idea is that it adds wifi wireless signal strength to all sides of the home. Acts like a mesh system but better, along with extra ethernet plugins for each router. I'm thinking of doing the same but with 2 routers or maybe 3.
@@THANOS_Disciple Don't use routers. Use wireless access points.
If need be, put a PoE switch in to run the AP and give you the extra network port you need. There are also access points that will give you an additional LAN port on-board. Unifi and Ruckus both come to mind. Even the TP Link Deco Mesh units give you an additional port.
15000sqft house?😮 Well done
@@DriveCarToBar I dodn't have much of a choice but to use wireless routers. This was several years ago when ACs were crap. Also, i could not use PoE. There was no direct ethernet. I ended up having to create a moca network for everything.
One tip: Since the deco xe75 pro has three ethernet ports, you can use the 3rd port on your main router to go straight to the moca adapter. I have it setup this way for one less hop to the nodes.
I too have Ethernet running throughout my house from a communications ingress in my first floor closet. Used a MoCa device to hardwire my office that didn’t have a network drop. Very easy to do.
As for the TP-Link Deco Mesh systems, in my experience they are a great bang for the buck. I typically deploy the P9 3 pack (when peak speeds are not required and stability and reliability are higher priorities) due to its use of powerline networking+wifi or ethernet+wifi combined backhaul for homes with walls that impede wireless (structural walls tend to do this, washrooms with a wire mesh in the floor to support tile, etc.) or where there are no electrical outlets available in the ideal locations for each AP (which I find common in homes here). Unfortunately the P9 is EoL and it's replacement the PX50 appears to be US only (TP-Link Canada told me they have no plans to bring it to Canada). I would love a hybrid mesh kit that supports max WiFi 6/6E speeds, ethernet backhaul, MoCA 2.5/3.0 backhaul, and Powerline AV2 2000 backhaul, that would be the mesh kit I'd provide clients without even considering anything else other than Uniquiti UniFi (which of course would be more expensive)
Very nice
I'll second all of that. I'm a professional IT consultant, and the P9 3-pack has been my go-to mesh kit for the last couple of years. I've worked with all the other major manufacturers' mesh kits, and they all require multiple attempts to get access points online, and then, after the mesh is up, I've often gotten called back when access points fall offline. None of the TP-Link kits I've deployed win speed competitions, but they have yet to generate an unhappy client. They set up like clockwork, usually on the first attempt, and they usually stay up until someone unplugs an access point or the power fails.
@@mar4kl Yeah, the P9 3 pack is great! I used it in a client's home, it's a split-level home with a thick load bearing wall in the middle of the home with no wifi and the home was likely built in the '60s, not sure when the basement was done, '90s or '00s probably, so a mix of older and newer electrical. Could not get a wifi signal from the upper levels to the basement with any normal router or mesh system because of the wall and the available power outlets for 2nd floor were not ideal from a wifi perspective. The P9 solved this problem perfectly, older electrical wiring, bad power outlet locations, thick wall and all! As long as the customer doesn't mind not having peak performance and prefers reliability and stability, then this kit makes for a happy customer!
I've used Linksys Velops successfully too and heard good things about Netgear Orbis (mind you, not really a mesh system, but close enough), but despite the lower price points and supposed lack of features (tri-band with dedicated 5GHz backhaul, etc.), the Decos punch above their weight class! Just too bad the P9 is EOL and the replacement PX50 isn't expected to come to Canada. We need more hybrid powerline mesh kits.
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What is sad, sad person you are. I truly feel bad for you.
After spending thousands of dollars on different routers and Mesh systems over the years, I found this to be a great and fast solution. I used the one with the 2.5Gb ethernet jack and it served as a good backhaul for my Mesh system. Last week my internet provider marked the ground for fibre optic installation. They offer 8Gb internet speeds. I called my electrician and had the whole house done properly with Cat 8 Cables with ethernet jack outlets. Also, I upgraded my Wifi Mesh and purchased 2 Asus AXE 16000 (it has 2 10Gbe ports) routers. Finally, I bought a bunch of 10Gb switches to finish up this setup.
The MOCA setup is definitely great for those who need convenience and do not require more than 2.5Gb network speeds.
I dumped my cable TV (keeping ethernet) and then used MoCA adapters with ROKU across my internal coax cables. Works great throughout the house and saved myself $130/mo. Just needed the correct filter where the main coax comes into the house.
My biggest issue so far with ATT Fiber is, they installed the router in my Garage. I am concerned that heat will negatively impact the router come summer time. I may have to consider investing in having a Fiber drop installed from the Entry point of the house to the Wiring closet.
You will be fine unless the temp go over 60+° C in your garage.
@@IwCk Thanks, that is also what AT&T told me, so for now I will just monitor it. Thank you!
It'll be fine, really.
Yeah have been using MOCA for 7-8 years now. It's the backhaul of my mesh wifi network. Most streaming apps work a lot better over a wired connection and MOCA fits the need.
I have fiber run to my house but no ethernet to the rooms. So I used the existing coax with moca 2.5gb adapters, ran the fiber ONT into the moca and then from moca back to ethernet into a pfsense router. Using that existing coax that was doing nothing to avoid running ethernet and destroying some walls. It works!
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to start shipping pretty much any time now. It's rated at 10Gbps. If you're looking at getting into MoCA and can wait a bit longer, it's probably worth it to wait until later this year / early next year for the massive speed boost of the new version.
Moca 3.0 is very out dated we’ve been using moca 3.1 for years
@@devonsykes2598 - Huh??? Can you point me to a shipping MoCA 3.0 or 3.1 adapter currently on the market? The MoCA 3.0 specs were released in 2018, with the first commercial chips expected to start being available to product manufacturers in late 2022 / early 2023. Once the chips are available, then companies will probably take a couple months to ramp up production of products and put them on the market.
There's literally no MoCA 3.1 spec even on the MoCA alliance roadmap, let alone shipping product (which is usually several years after a spec is released).
Maybe you're confusing MoCA with HomePNA 3.1? But, HomePNA 3.1 has a maximum speed of 320Mbps, where MoCA 2.5 has a maximum speed of 2.5Gbps and MoCA 3.0 has a maximum speed of 10Gbps.
@@someoneoncesaid6978 no lol moca 3.0 has been homes for years. I’m a cable technician…. I instal moca 3.1 modems on the daily. Very little people still use dated 3.0 modems
@@someoneoncesaid6978 hitron makes a moca 3.1 so does airis and sagecom… I install multiple a day
@@someoneoncesaid6978 it’s impossible to achieve more than a GB of speed in a coax line anyways. Fiber yes coax is limited. Like I said search up sagecoms wifi 6 or hitron 3.1 moca it’s like a tall box Bassicly
You can have one MOCA at modem feeding more than one MOCA thru-out the home. They are great to use.
I just did this in my home. I had to use 4 of these devices because not everything ran through the basement hub, but it worked well, and all devices are at (or close to) the max speed that I pay for through my provider
Hey Steve! Can you do the same with the Powerline adapters? I.e. use them to connect two parts of the mesh system?
Back in the day, ethernet was run using Coax, so no surprise there. 🙂 The bummer is that we only have three Coax connections in our house, and mostly in the wrong areas for something like this. When we built the house 25+ years ago, we had ethernet put in ... unfortunately for nowdays, all Cat 5. Worked great for many years ... initially ran off a 10 Mbps hub ... but now it restricts anyone on the network (I connect directly to the Router, but no one else can) to about 80 Mbps. I've been thinking about adding Mesh to make my wife happier.
Really so. Ethernet started with thick-coax, then come thin-coax with BNC-connectors, both with tapped connections in the middle, then come AT&T_Systimax + RJ-45 with start shaped cabling, now Systimax is called Cat-cable.
I want to run the reverse… will it work? I’m trying to use my Ethernet wired how to carry a coaxial video signal and also a coaxial data signal? Want to be able to have a cable box but only have cat 6 cable runs.
Great concept. I never thought about reusing my old coaxial connectors this way. 👍🏽
Steve, i have a larger mid 90s home that has a split design. Could i put the coax converter in a central location and use a splitter and put 2 out on each side of the house for total 3 devices, or do i need four? 2 for each line? does that make sense?
Hi, is there a way to convert the coax wall port to a analog line? My builder put coax cables throughout my house and in my office I have no telephone line port for my fax machine but 2 coax ports.
I’ve been told “MoCA is the home run”. It is amazingly fast. I’ve also found homes that have CAT 5 run for the home phone which nobody uses anymore. That is an easy conversion for hi-speed Wi-Fi.
I’ve seen videos where the installer uses the old telephone wire to pull the new CAT 5/6 wires through the walls and into the desired rooms.
@@adamr4198 That is one that I will keep in my back pocket. Thanks!
I'm getting 1GB over my Cat 5, not 5e, but Cat 5. Even had the ability to plug in some POE Unifi inwalls without issue to the regular cat 5, and it works great.
@@adamr4198 That’s what I’ve been doing for several years, I wired every “phone jack” (PSTN?) in my house, to be used strictly used for internet data, it’s nice to have Ethernet connections all over the house…..it just sucks that all these “smart devices” only run on wifi.
I’m looking to bypass this crap modem/router (moto BGW210) that AT&T uses for my 1g fiber internet, the WiFi signal blows!
I’m thinking I can get by with 2 mesh devices…..any thoughts?
Cat 5 isn't for home phone
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but it is a good idea to put a MoCA Point of Entry filter on your cable inlet to avoid having your network go back up the cable line outside of your house.
This!!!
lol, that's too advanced for this RUclipsr. Don't worry, just send all your network traffic to your entire town by doing the method shown in this video. RUclips is great, but sometimes in this example, it's really not. Perhaps the RUclipsr might take a intro to networking class first.
@@slkfjariao Looked to me he only hooked to individual panel to room lines, not a splitter
Question: Why use a switch and the deco in the first room at all? Can't you just plug the screenbeam from the cable Modem into the screenbeam directly? Or why plug the Deco into a switch then into the Screenbeam?
Concern: I have a new Amplifi Alien mesh router and wanted to use this as my new primary router in the house for the fastest possible WIFI. My issue is that all the coax cables have direct internet access from ISP, but I cant just plug in the screenbeam as a coax to ethernet adapter.
SO in one room, I have a coax line split to the screenbeam and my coax router. In the next room, I have a second screenbeam taking the signal and translating it to ethernet for the Amplifi router.. except the Amplifi router cannot put off a new WIFI signal from this. I can test download speed from it via onboard touch screen, and the ethernet cable works from Amplifi to other device.. but I am unable to even identify a WIFI network signal from the Amplifi at all.
I have spectrum and the modem is connected to the coax. Do I need to just connect the moca box to each room to get the internet around the house?
Since my router using the coax cable in the gameroom would I use a coax splitter? One side is router other side is the ScreenBeam device? Then I plug in the other ScreenBeam where I want the connect to go?
This was great! It has given me some ideas for how I want Starlink to work with my RV. My RV has an external connection for campground cable on the outside, and it winds up in a closet inside the RV. I am thinking this concept should work - I can connect my Starlink antenna to an adapter and connect it to the external coax port - and then do the same on the inside? Any suggestions would be appreciate. I have seen some folks drill holes to do this, but since that cable is already there, I should be able to use that.
doesn't the starlink dish get it's power from the network cable too? (PoE) it doesn't seem like this 'moca'-thing would support PoE, but i could be wrong...
If you place your mesh waypoints within a proper range from the main hub and the device supports wifi 6E it should always fluctuate between 700 - 900 mb/s wirelessly .
Don’t Have Cox cable here in Australia We are On Nbn fixed wireless connection!! 2:18 0:58 1:00 1:03 1:06 1:10 1:47 1:48
Quick follow up on this. 1st off, thanks for posting! 2nd, he's my current set up. Cable provider comes into house on the COAX. I then have to go from COAX to my modem and wireless router. So that's the set up I currently have and I want to come off the COAX in two rooms straight to ethernet. Is one of these sufficient in each room to achieve this goal? Plain and simple, I want to take my son's gaming computer OFF the Wireless and get him wired to the network directly. Appreciate the feedback!
An aside about device cabinets/Devices/Mounting and cable rounting
I'm intriigued by your cabinet device mounting...esp the beam running along the back...it doesn't seem the holes in it are being used....what is it's intent ?...how are you adhering the devices to the back wall ?....Is it an easily found standardized form ? Is it easily cut ?
About cable routing....the bane of us all....I've been considering using hot wax to adhere cable tie bases to the route points....I'm afraid of hot weather melting the wax and it's being easily torn away....which would be a good point for re-routing...I was thinking of using a heat gun to "solder" in and "desolder"....any opinions ?
I have frontier internet in southern California and the mocha adapters that they install in my house Would fail regularly and they actually sent a tech out to disable them all. I hope these will work better
Quick question. If you have a cable modem then how do you have an internet connection when the coaxial cable is not connected to your modem. Where is the connection coming from for the internet to your modem. I like this idea I’m just trying to figure out how that part works.
Can you have a regular router and a mesh system or will they conflict and cause issues?
Does it work with a loop?
Thanks for the video! I'm in the process of doing this at my house. Have lots of coax, but few Ethernet ports. Mesh system is okay, but loses a lot going through walls, so I want to hardwire the satellites. Router is near a coax, so gotta MOCA that, reroute the coax splitter, then adapt one of those cables to feed the Ethernet switch I added. It's never simple, lol.
Kinda sad to see how much signal loss you still get, but it's at least a good improvement over what you had. 🤷🏻♂️
What I have is a MoCA block installed in the ceiling of my basement. So, basically it allows you to pump in the signal from the screenbeam then it sends the ethernet signal out through all of the coaxial terminations in your home simultaneously. So, same thing as you have here except instead of plugging the screebeam into one coaxial, you tie it into the coaxial MoCA splitter block.
If im just trying to get a Ethernet in my PC room that has a coax outlet, will one work?
now using the backhaul feature would those other ethernet ports become bridged to the main unit? in essence making the other 2-3 poorts not used by the back haul just a network switch
I cut the cord a while ago, but I also ran ethernet cables through my house as well. I plan on using my coax to connect to my antenna (once I figure out how I want that all to be set up. Something else to think about...if you have a cable modem, I'm not sure you would want to use this if the coax is coming off a splitter with your modem. It needs to be separate. It's not that hard to run ethernet cable. I have a hardware firewall/router (that I built using an old pc...you dont need much to run one) that completely separates out any desktop/laptop in the house from any wireless access points. So if someone is a guest on your wifi, they are not able to access any wired devices. I would never rent a modem...that's a big waste of money. I got a great DOCSIS 3.1 modem for under $100. I wonder how much these coax to ethernet cost...might have to check it out to boost my wifi
What did you use for firewall/ router. pfsense or similar? I just installed cat6 throughout the home and want to expand later with PoE cameras.
Bought the tolink Dx (step below this One). My coax and phone lines running cat 5 were birdnested all over. I have a dead zone in my home and still struggling with signal in that room. ( no idea why I have an architecture background as well.
Just curious on the router/ firewall as I want something more and have some small carcasses to build up. May even look at a pi.
Trying to not have wife freak out with me redoing media cabinet ( which I am ). Waiting for good deal on 16-24 port mamaged switch
Sucks only having a DSL line to the house. At max end of run with 25/5 speeds. ATT sucks here.
Let. Me know on router and how it sorked out. I just want more control. Favor Linux over MS crap.
@@stemmentor9700 I used smoothwall express 3.1 but it's not really in development anymore since around 2020. I like it because it will run on older hardware and it runs on an old PC. You just have to make sure you have at least 3 ethernet cards. One for your internal wired network, one for your wireless access point, and one for your incoming internet connection (coming from your modem). Smoothwall exp labels these Green, Purple, and Red. PFSense would also be a good choice. I've actually been looking at a mini form factor PC to run my router/firewall to take up less space, but you dont need much to run this (as far as hardware)
If you're paying for a 1000 down and 1000 up do you have fiber to the house? If so are you using the cable modem in bridged mode as a residential gateway connenet to an ONU? I would be amazed if you were getting 1000 up via a true cable modem connection.
So u need 2 MoCa in order to work (one for the main router and one for the extender) or just one for the extender is fine?
Yes, you need a minimum of two. I think you can have up to 16 within a house. Each one converts between ethernet and coax, so if you want to connect two devices with ethernet connections (say your cable router and your computer that's in a different room), you'll need one MoCA adapter for each of those two locations.
I do not recommend using it with an extender. It’s recommended with an access point or a mesh system.
@@someoneoncesaid6978 the price for the MoCa is $150 a piece, two pieces is 300 bucks! Better invest that money for a decent mesh sysyem!
Great video. I have the same set up as you except my extender is Eero. My cable modem is in the basement. I was able to find the coax to my office which is upstairs. I can see on the Eero app that it is wired to the right room. Unfortunately it is only modestly boosting the speed. I don't think the connections are off so I am trying to figure out why there is no appreciable increase. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Interesting. I use two Amplify Alien mesh routers. They talk to each other at speeds way about my service speed of 150/150mBps without a backhaul. (one upstairs and one downstairs). Half of the downstairs devices connect to the upstairs remote unit. I do have plenty of dark coax. Are all of these devices one-two one? They seem to be sold in pairs. They are cheap enough but it would be nice to split the one connected to the ethernet to service more than one remote location.
Have a coax outside. No power outlet. Is there a Moca adapter that I can use a PoC?
You suggested a good idea. However my room has single TV receptacle. How can I use it to connect to the modem and through a coax/Ethernet adapter to the router at the same time?
In my target room, do i need an extra router to plug in the moca? or can i just plug a lan cable straight from my computer to moca?
If I plan to run a deco mesh system with 2 satellites, do I need to do anything to my existing coax cable network? Or just put a Moca adapter at each router? FYI, all my wall jacks run to a splitter in the attic. I don't have any services currently running on this system.
Do you need to put an adapter where the internet enters your home? For Tivo I always needed one.
thx for the video. It's great to see double speed of the Deco in the den... but is it possible to get the speed of what you paid for (1000 up & down) in the den? If you connect to the "main" Deco in your closet that connects directly to the cable modem, do you get 1000 up and down?
So, I'm trying to figure out how this sort of system works. Would I just be able to plug the transmitter into any coax outlet and the receiver in any other coax outlet and have it work? Or will the cable splitting off into different areas and whatnot cause issue?
Pretty much. The main unit needs to be plugged in close to where your router is. You plug an ethernet cable into the main unit and then plug that unit into the coax port. You then plug in the secondary unit in the room where you need a connection and that has a coax cable. You plug an ethernet cable from that unit into your computer or network switch or other device.
Question, cable connections are throughout my house. One of them is used to connect to my cable Modem, which is connected to my wifi Orbi router. Can I use a cable splitter and use the same cable outlet that feeds my modem to the screenbeam device to connect to my wifi Router? Will the signal piggyback on the cable to send to a cable jack elsewhere in the house? I have a spot that needs a stronger signal than my mesh system will deliver.
Question,. Can I bypass using another router and still use my modem with wifi capabilities to use the mesh wifi with an attachment via coax? I would love to install a mesh node in another part of the house, but not need another router middle manning the modem and mesh system.
Tech novice here... can you plug the Screen Beam ethernet out directly into your computer (i.e., bypass WiFi altogether)?
My equipment has a modem and a router provided by spectrum. How do I connect the moca to that setup? I just want to use it to enhance the wifi connection with a wifi mesh.
What do you need the splitter for? Also, if I have a current mesh system and i want to plug a few of them in by ethernet through coax, will they still function properly like a mesh system or will they behave like independant access points?
You don't even need the gateway installed. You can remove it completely. The internet is actually coming from the smaller coax box called ONT
Great vid! question: I have two homes on my property. I want to connect two routers to two locations connected to the same internet connection.
The main home has main internet connection. The second home (mobile home) has the coax connection. Will this give me the solution that I am looking for two separate both routers to two homes connected to one network? Will this also give me two separate SSID?
any insight is appreciated!
Is that a deco i see? If you’re thinking to get one then please please please consider your usage carefully. Tplink deco have no fixed ethernet port. If your wan goes down then any lan connected to main hub will go down because it’s searching for wan on all available port. It sucks and Tplink doesn’t seem to want to fix it anytime soon
one thing i dont understand, can you use these when you ALSO have and plan to keep, cable internet over the same coax lines?
I believe the answer I came too when I googled this a while back was a tentative yes?
It never crossed my mind convert my house' coax into Ethernet. However what I did was to use the tp-link AV2000 to convert current/power lines to Ethernet. What do you thingk about this conversation? Is it better to use the Coax-Ethernet option? I still have cable with Xfinity so I'm connecting their cable box from a wall coax. Thanks!
What do you think about power line adapters with Ethernet ports like the TP-link AV2000?
What about if your modem is conmected through a coax do you need to screenbeam adapters for it to work?? Thank you inadvance
I have a question; I live in a rented apartment, and there isn't much I can do or change. I would like to buy this MoCA device, but I have a doubt. If my internet provider uses coaxial cable, I have the modem in my room and the PC in the living room. The question is, to which coaxial cable should I connect the MoCA if I'm already using the output in my room to receive the internet signal?"
I don’t have any network boxes around my house (coax/Ethernet) except for the coax that comes into my house to provide my cable modem and ultimately router with internet access. I want to install network infrastructure in my house so there’s a panel in each room. I can run wires through the crawl space. I was just wondering if it’s necessary to put coax on each of these or would a more modernized setup just prioritize Ethernet? I have no intention of getting a cable TV Service. Also is there any sense in me installing optical fiber into the infrastructure to be ready for the future?
Does this MOCA stuff interfere with the cable box or adapter your cable provider supplied?
How would this compare in speed with the boxes that run the ethernet over your house wiring?
Does this method limit you from using 6E? I thought you would need to run 6E ethernet through your house to use hard wire. Or do you just need to run 6E cable from the coax converter, and it will work?
Is there a limit on the length of coax that MoCA can work with?
I have a nightowl NVR SYSTEM that requires power over eithernet. Do you think this conversion eithernet to coax to eithernet will power cameras?
Hello I was wondering if I did ONT Coaxial Cable > MOCA Adapter > WAN port of my router would work?
This Ethernet backhaul method do you get different SSID for each router? If yes so it isn't mesh network right?
What if your cable comes into a gang connection? Can I still do this?
My two story house built in the 90s has no coax or Ethernet in the second floor what would you recommend i do
So my house has cat5 and coaxial in every room. You think coax would beat cat5?
What do you do if your incoming coax lines are in an outside box on the side of house?
Been using moca for years now and twice I had a problem with a malfunctioning action tech causing issues and disconnects with the rest of my system. Went through 2 expensive routers last time before unplugging the actiontec and the router worked flawlessly after that. New screenbeam and all is well.
Are all MoCa adaptors the same? Most say 2.5 Gbps, but the pricing differnence is as much at 100 bucks? And ebay has some, new in box, for $60! What do I need to be looking for ? thanks..
Currently I have a second router plugged into my main router, so that way I have an upstairs and downstairs network. Is there anyway I could set the second router to work as an extender rather than making it’s own double NAT network?
Is your 2nd router providing wifi coverage upstairs? If so, see if it has an access point mode. I think most modern routers have this. When you enable it, it disables all routing functionality and just acts as a wifi access point.
If it isn't being used for wifi and you need wired connections, it makes more sense to install a network switch instead of a second router.
So my question is if my router that my provider installed is already using coax can i use one screen beam in my room or would i need to run one at the router and one in my room?
You are using 5ghz for the iot that are in the same room as those wireless access points?
if the coax is a “web” and not “home runs” to the router’s location, can that still be used as backhaul?
Your iPad Air 4th Gen only supports 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands so it wasn't using the 6Ghz band that the deco mesh wifi supports. If you have a 6E compatible device you'll get much faster speeds over wifi then what you showed. The mocas are useful for anyone living in a 2 story brick house with no basement.
He clearly showed a before and after. So it DID make a difference at the end.
I did this on my house using Moca adapters and google wifi points to do the back haul. Works great!!