how does tf2 decide who gets the assist?

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  • @shounic
    @shounic  4 года назад +1661

    FAQ
    - TRY DO THIS IN THIS ORDER
    this information is confirmed by looking into the code, not learned by testing. this means that even if i didn't show something in the video, the information i've given you can be safely trusted. obviously, because of the numerous combination of things to test, i can't create an exhaustively comprehensive demonstration of everything - so for stuff like the medigun, i opted not to show every combination of order and weapons.
    though i fully expect you nerds to think of some other wild edge cases that even i haven't thought to test and there'll be a part two :))))
    also, update on the sapper stuff. sapping with another spy doesn't change anything. not 100% sure why but there's nothing new to report, so no part 3.
    (blanket disclaimer: idk if what i said makes sense, i didn't sleep well so i'll come back later to edit this with proper english if it sucks)
    thanks for reading, here are some bonus thumbnails: i.imgur.com/rOsjLXd.png i.imgur.com/AMyh1ZK.png

    • @bokieiey
      @bokieiey 4 года назад +12

      you're welcome for reading

    • @skyixyes3971
      @skyixyes3971 4 года назад +29

      amputator taunts can give assists btw (sorry to be that guy)

    • @spycookie6174
      @spycookie6174 4 года назад +1

      But were any Baby Engie Mains harmed in the making of this video

    • @TehPlayer14
      @TehPlayer14 4 года назад +11

      Sapper gives assist too if someone destroy the building before your sapper kills it

    • @BlazingShadowSword
      @BlazingShadowSword 4 года назад +3

      Thanks for clarifying the stuff with multiple spies not affecting a bugged sapper. Very nice.

  • @borutoburrito6547
    @borutoburrito6547 4 года назад +5053

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"
    Wow that was the shortest mystery novel I've ever read.

    • @QWERTY708100
      @QWERTY708100 4 года назад +251

      Heavy Is Dead in a nutshell

    • @joeboyd1964
      @joeboyd1964 4 года назад +111

      At least it's one of those mystery novels where the reader can solve it before the ending; those are satisfying

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 4 года назад +80

      People die when they are killed.

    • @spaghettthesomeone9625
      @spaghettthesomeone9625 4 года назад +21

      @@littlenyancat5754 wait really? Wow... The more you know

    • @b-17theflyingfortress
      @b-17theflyingfortress 4 года назад +10

      @@QWERTY708100
      YA TA YATATA
      IT IS GOOD DAY TO BE NOT DED

  • @oktayyildirim2911
    @oktayyildirim2911 4 года назад +1361

    1:41 "For debuffs, it tiebreaks by ordering the weapons by release date."
    I wouldn't expect anything less from Valve developers.

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 4 года назад +151

      I find it quite smart, i expected then to just base everything on who joined first

    • @MickyVideo
      @MickyVideo 4 года назад +175

      It actually works quite well and is possibly less computationally expensive.

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 3 года назад +227

      @@bruschetta7711 Instead of being the player who joined first, it's the weapon who joined first

    • @h4724-q6j
      @h4724-q6j 2 года назад +4

      What solution would you prefer them to use?

    • @Bluejet_007
      @Bluejet_007 2 года назад +61

      @@h4724-q6j Something like who put debuffs first or last would have made more sense. Not the most accurate method, but makes way more sense.

  • @AceTheOcarinaMaker
    @AceTheOcarinaMaker 4 года назад +2306

    A lot of weird kill credit in the past makes sense now. Great video as usual.

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 года назад +12

      fancy seeing you here

    • @drcrooked2620
      @drcrooked2620 4 года назад +6

      Excuse me there's only 2 comments on a ace comment why don't I see more

    • @dracon2963
      @dracon2963 4 года назад +3

      Nice it’s you ace im a big fan

    • @Destro65
      @Destro65 4 года назад +2

      Oh look its ace

    • @cameonmate4293
      @cameonmate4293 4 года назад +2

      hi dad

  • @Tudsamfa
    @Tudsamfa 4 года назад +1935

    The most important assists are pet accesories while in pyroland.

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 года назад +147

      Dude I honestly forgot about those lol. I assume those would just rank last, like beneath damage

    • @258thHiGuy
      @258thHiGuy 4 года назад +229

      @@christianaustin782 They only show up as an assist if there was no actual assist

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 года назад +95

      @@258thHiGuy soooo technically correct that they rank last 😬

    • @KoboldCloaca
      @KoboldCloaca 4 года назад +10

      Slithering scarf gang

    • @randomzergling
      @randomzergling 4 года назад +17

      @@christianaustin782 Morale support

  • @kerbonaut2059
    @kerbonaut2059 4 года назад +1082

    3:23 "This is a 10,000$ custom-tailored Louis Crabbemarche jacket. The cloth is from silkworms raised at a suit microfarm in Tuscany, from a secret pattern passed down by monk tailors since the 7th century."

    • @Kaiwala
      @Kaiwala 4 года назад +113

      Then scout meets god or something idk

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes 4 года назад +80

      You just ruined it by coating it in pee.
      Fuck you.
      -Spy

    • @apple-de8tx
      @apple-de8tx 4 года назад +4

      laughing

    • @onedoompunchman7549
      @onedoompunchman7549 4 года назад +22

      New unusual

    • @slyseal2091
      @slyseal2091 4 года назад +17

      @Dick Faggotson - "the spy", seconds before realising that his current state would give the man in need of a diaper full crits.

  • @bareodin
    @bareodin 3 года назад +566

    Fun fact you forgot to mention: if a pyro reflects a stun ball at an enemy player who then dies, the assist goes to the enemy scout. This can results in sometimes an enemy scout getting an assist in his own death.

    • @Lilithksheh7723
      @Lilithksheh7723 2 года назад +82

      That’s a “you played yourself” moment right there.

    • @Hugonche29
      @Hugonche29 2 года назад +95

      Same if a friend medic heals an enemy spy who backstabs a teammate.
      Actually, both scenarios allow players to dominate players from their own team!

    • @theweirdwolf1877
      @theweirdwolf1877 2 года назад +64

      Imagine dominating yourself

    • @quintonwinton7210
      @quintonwinton7210 2 года назад +18

      @@Hugonche29 i believe it lets medic dominate himself

    • @modmaniamadness
      @modmaniamadness 2 года назад +2

      @@quintonwinton7210 revenge crits

  • @krisztianpapp6717
    @krisztianpapp6717 4 года назад +655

    all of the dripping effects looks like an unusual effect waiting to happen

    • @topminator1667
      @topminator1667 4 года назад +129

      new unusual effect added: dripping toilet

    • @Wittymations
      @Wittymations 4 года назад +51

      @@topminator1667 I'm thoroughly disgusted. Add it, Valve.

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 года назад +28

      that would be op because you couldnt ever tell if someone had a debuff

    • @krisztianpapp6717
      @krisztianpapp6717 4 года назад +20

      @@gangstascout3593 Well, it could be a orbiting effect like nuts n bolts or else but am sure they could implement it in a non game breaking way maybe

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 года назад +37

      @@krisztianpapp6717 idk man, i mean who would want to have a water,milk,piss and motor oil aura around their head

  • @davistoa
    @davistoa 4 года назад +1978

    It's amazing how you keep finding questions to things that are so interesting, yet I never really thought that hard about before. You're pretty much the only TF2 content creator still full of fresh ideas, so hats off to that.

    • @RoastCDuck
      @RoastCDuck 4 года назад +25

      Thats why this is one of the fews RUclips channel related to TF2 that i watch now since i quit TF2 on december 2019, I don't want to call this a TF2ber as its content is technical and debugging, something different from the main TF2 theme, pointing out flaws, facts, pros and cons, literally answering useful questions and pointing whats wrong with the game, not something alot of TF2bers do since they are scared of talking or pointing out flaws on TF2 which is their main problem, no one talks or asks what really is wrong with the game or how does it work in the core and proceeds to lie to themselves and the community about the current state of the game, is not running on its full potential that time was long ago, the game is struggling and dying.

    • @Gotmilk0112
      @Gotmilk0112 4 года назад +21

      Hats off? No, hats on.

    • @burnzey4470
      @burnzey4470 4 года назад +1

      @Kody Pendleton i know right? these small questions are so much more intriguing and engaging than"gttthhhk wacky map *wheeze*"

    • @Scoutscout1000
      @Scoutscout1000 4 года назад +5

      this one is actually something i've always wondered, I hate headshotting someone and they die right after and I dont get the assist.

    • @endig4501
      @endig4501 4 года назад +2

      I haven't even played TF2 since the matchmaking update and I still watch these videos. It's good stuff.

  • @bukachell
    @bukachell 4 года назад +177

    Imagine if it just included everyone on the list of assisting actions and like 20 dudes all work together to kill one engineer

    • @UH-60_Blackhawk
      @UH-60_Blackhawk 2 года назад +6

      infinitely long kill feed

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 6 месяцев назад +12

      Some “you were killed again by the sentry gun of the late” type shit

    • @nataliaborys1554
      @nataliaborys1554 Месяц назад

      You deal the killing blow after someone else already hit the Engie and four other guys gave him all the debuffs, all the while you're being healed by four Medics, with three Soldiers with different banners activated nearby.

  • @supersonicfan6404
    @supersonicfan6404 2 года назад +73

    3:24 Wow, spy has some SERIOUS drip!

  • @ducksociety3514
    @ducksociety3514 3 года назад +295

    Shounic: "If I shoot someone, I'm the killer"
    Audience: "Dear god"
    Shounic: "There's more..."
    Audience: "No"

  • @hexa138
    @hexa138 4 года назад +188

    Guy I'm dominating: [Gently blows my hair]
    Me: [Dies 25 years later]
    Game: THAT'S AN ASSIST. HE GOT REVENGE ON YOU!

    • @sillypinkmoth
      @sillypinkmoth Год назад +4

      i smell frustration

    • @yetanotherperson1833
      @yetanotherperson1833 10 месяцев назад +4

      Meanwhile I deal like 75 damage to a scout, a soldier finish hims off, and I get rewarded with absolutely nothin

    • @UNALLOYEDSLOP
      @UNALLOYEDSLOP 2 месяца назад +3

      Guy I’m dominating 🥵😳

    • @hexa138
      @hexa138 2 месяца назад

      @@UNALLOYEDSLOP holy shit is that a sex reference

  • @Bobcat1573
    @Bobcat1573 4 года назад +655

    Me: “does 2990 damage to heavy robot”
    Scout out of no where: “uses pistol”
    Spy out of no where: “facestabbs it”
    Me:”doesn’t get even a assist”

    • @Fel1xF7W
      @Fel1xF7W 4 года назад +24

      i mean you got unlucky because of the scout but if you don't frag the enemy you shouldn't appear in the killfeed

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 года назад +41

      team: "ree can't you do your fucking job"

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 года назад +29

      I don't think you know what quotes mean

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 года назад +2

      @@cavalcadeofbobs3559 I have this feeling you forgot what dialogue means

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 года назад +23

      @@Manavine really, then I would like you to read that comment out like each character says the quoted words. Instead of, y'know, asterisks because these are actions and not dialogue.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 года назад +225

    So that's why it's pretty common for a decent medic to top score, just heal everyone and you'll get the credit xD

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 года назад +114

      Medics earn it though, they really do make or break the team in most games

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 года назад +65

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Exactly, if a medic is top scoring that means he is frequently, if not always, healing the people in a battle or people running toward frontline, hell yea

    • @awabfarass9054
      @awabfarass9054 4 года назад +2

      @@MeekerMW why did you say the same thing 3 times?

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 года назад +1

      @@awabfarass9054 ah fuck

    • @JellyMyst
      @JellyMyst 4 года назад

      So you're a fan of TF2 as well as vtubers? Nice.

  • @Hoodiebud
    @Hoodiebud 4 года назад +67

    3:18 When you run for 1 second.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 года назад +230

    I love how even after 13 years, we still have something we don't know about TF2 and it's still being analyzed
    I just hope TF2 team didn't update the game too soon, so this video is going to be useful... Oh wait

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 4 года назад +4

      This video will be useful until they release Half-Life 3....in other words, your grandkids will still be referencing it.

    • @ruruisu
      @ruruisu 4 года назад +1

      Thank source leak for a lot of these

  • @dingchat555
    @dingchat555 4 года назад +26

    Bit of a correction on 5:40: A spy can get an assist on a destroyed building if he places a sapper on the building and a teammate destroys the building while it is being sapped.

    • @kuni2330
      @kuni2330 Год назад +2

      Other teammates destroying a building with a sapper still gives the Diamondback crits as well.

  • @jankkhvej434
    @jankkhvej434 4 года назад +91

    can we talk about how this guy is literally the 3kliksphilip of tf2?

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus 4 года назад +10

      I went in the other direction, I started watching 3kliksphilip even though I don't play CSGO

    • @dinonuggiesguy4847
      @dinonuggiesguy4847 4 года назад

      Same lol

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 4 года назад +79

    Another reason why the Jarate is the superior weapon

    • @razormaw
      @razormaw 3 года назад +6

      Tis first time i saw you with so little likes and comments. Quite alien

    • @abdogad1
      @abdogad1 10 месяцев назад +1

      Fr

  • @JemiDove
    @JemiDove 4 года назад +135

    A videoediting question (anyone can answer); how did you get the TF2 animated character models (and any animated ingame special effects associated with them) with a transparent background such that you could composite in your own background? Did you capture videos of them against a greenscreen custom map or something?

    • @shounic
      @shounic  4 года назад +88

      yes

    • @JemiDove
      @JemiDove 4 года назад +20

      @@shounic I see, thanks for the insight :D

    • @hogpilot9735
      @hogpilot9735 3 года назад +2

      You can use loadout.tf to get the animations you want and add cosmetics.

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 года назад +81

    Me: *does 90% of damage to enemy*
    Random sniper getting overhealed: *body shots and kills them*
    Game: *credits the sniper and medic*
    Me: "What the fu-"

    • @turi6233
      @turi6233 4 года назад +4

      *95%**

    • @John-ek4xc
      @John-ek4xc 4 года назад

      Imagine thats your nemesis

  • @Kenajcrap
    @Kenajcrap 4 года назад +26

    great vídeo as always. But although you explained that the first medic to start healing you gets priority on the assist, I think it would be worth mentioning that this even applies if the second medic Ubers or Kritz the target.
    It is too common for a gibus medic who is just following a random guy to steal a good 5 or 7 assist when I Kritz him, simply because I commited the sin of healing my team as a whole, switching targets constantly and launching arrows :(

  • @Umicron_
    @Umicron_ 4 года назад +412

    Does uber-ing the killer increase the medic's priority? Like if the second medic to heal the killer Ubers the killer before they get the kill do they get the assist?

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 года назад +125

      Lol something similar to me happened last night. I was running stock medi gun and another medic went kritzkreig. We both had Uber and popped in on a pyro (killed like 8 people it was epic). Even though I popped Uber before him, only the pyro and the kritz medic got credit for the kills, since he started healing the pyro first

    • @kamils6975
      @kamils6975 4 года назад +81

      Ubering does not increase priority

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 4 года назад +2

      Medigun, Kristkreig, and Quickfix Ubers should count

    • @allenholloway5109
      @allenholloway5109 4 года назад

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Good to know.

    • @sampletext9426
      @sampletext9426 4 года назад +9

      @@Nigel-nv3lr
      now imagine a pyro ubered by stock, kritz and quickfix

  • @nubert916
    @nubert916 3 года назад +14

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I am the killer"
    What a great quote to start the video

  • @BotAurelionSol
    @BotAurelionSol 4 года назад +17

    3:18 "As if I would ruin a $3000 Dollar suit. Good. Good" - Spy

    • @Lactopurg4
      @Lactopurg4 3 года назад +1

      is that from the comics?

    • @mane8246
      @mane8246 3 года назад +1

      @@Lactopurg4 is a voice line

  • @kingjensen8091
    @kingjensen8091 4 года назад +20

    *hits guy for 8 with the pistol*
    TF2 when that person dies: Good work!

  • @creamgravy5732
    @creamgravy5732 4 года назад +2

    As a comp player and engineer main who often uses the frontier justice, thisis actually really valuable information
    Thank you! Been trying to figure this out for quite some time after thinking I should get sentry assists but them just not happening, but now I know that my damage has to be the most recent damage, and within 3 seconds, and debuffs or bluffs or healing can get in the way of assists being awarded to me sentry. Also, odd thing, it seems as though it is impossible for an engineer's sentry to get an assist from the engineer who built it, by which I mean if someone is peppered by my sentry and I finish them with my shotgun, no assist will be awarded

  • @Finluz
    @Finluz 4 года назад +37

    "If I shoot someone, and they die, I'm the killer. Anyway, back to TF2..."

  • @ChipDrewPog
    @ChipDrewPog 10 месяцев назад +2

    Another thing for buildings: You can also assist in destroying a building if it's sapped, if you hit a sapped building and it dies to the sapper you get an assist on it
    I think it works the other way around too where the spy gets the assist for sapping a building that is then destroyed but I'm not entirely sure.
    Though I don't know how a medic's healing plays into this, further testing is required.

  • @shurbrrt
    @shurbrrt 4 года назад +98

    3:18 women after they see my lego bionicles collection

  • @AzzieEquinox
    @AzzieEquinox 4 года назад +47

    After Jungle Inferno, airblasting people into kill barriers will sometimes ignore the airblast, crediting nobody for the kill. It'll just credit anyone who did damage.
    Additionally, the Shortstop's push will never credit you for pushing an enemy into a kill barrier, despite it dealing 1 damage.

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 года назад +13

      Man every day i discover new ways in which the shove is useless

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 года назад +3

      You're disgusting

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 года назад

      @@viporal7898 why? Because of the furry avatar?

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 года назад +4

      @@mohammadwaled409 you guessed correctly

    • @theali8oras274
      @theali8oras274 4 года назад +4

      @@viporal7898 you're disgusting

  • @asdf-23512
    @asdf-23512 Год назад +3

    Imagine getting kill priority over a pocket medic by gassing all their should have been assists

  • @MrBump2
    @MrBump2 4 года назад +6

    I've always wondered about a lot of this, thanks for explaining. Many times I've never received obvious assist kills in a quick skirmish. Like, only the killer would get a single credit while I was attacking the enemy also. Must have been some of these unnamed instances you showed. Good video.

  • @Calzonieee
    @Calzonieee Год назад +10

    0:01 You may be a killer, but you ain't man enough to be the Killa.

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 Год назад

      why didn't you just say 0:00

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee Год назад

      @@DavidGaming69 ignore alt deletes your comment

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 Год назад

      @@Calzonieeewhat?

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee Год назад

      @@DavidGaming69 Ignore: Ignores comment
      Alt: Reverts attack
      Delete: Deletes attack

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 Год назад

      @@Calzonieeeim confuse

  • @alchemispark7751
    @alchemispark7751 4 года назад +8

    1:09 POV you're about to get vibe checked

  • @Kimri
    @Kimri 4 года назад +12

    3:19 The fact that you don't have any reason to do this but you did it anyway is why i love your content.

  • @TheFlamingPiano
    @TheFlamingPiano 4 года назад

    This thought randomly popped into my head a while ago, particularly about mad milk scout or medic getting the assist. Then I see this video.

  • @frazer_1997
    @frazer_1997 4 года назад +153

    Cute girl: "Hi! How you doing?"
    Me, an introvert, sweating, pissing myself and puking out: 3:23

    • @palidengamer2540
      @palidengamer2540 4 года назад

      first like

    • @Marsaw
      @Marsaw 4 года назад +17

      Where does the milk come from?

    • @ridhosamudro2199
      @ridhosamudro2199 4 года назад +31

      @@Marsaw probably it's not milk in his case

    • @AviansEnthusiast
      @AviansEnthusiast 4 года назад +24

      Hate to be that guy, but introverts aren't necessarily bad at socializing with people. You can be an introvert and be more confident around people than extroverts, it happens. Main thing is that introverts like their time alone, as that helps them recharge themselves from socializing and is where they feel most comfortable.
      Nonetheless, you're just making a meme

    • @Cece-Cece
      @Cece-Cece 4 года назад +2

      @@AviansEnthusiast neat info

  • @commenter_HIMIK-MAN
    @commenter_HIMIK-MAN 4 года назад +11

    3:18 Looks like he's dripping Skittles.

  • @spadesauce3391
    @spadesauce3391 4 года назад +8

    I just love how clean his videos are

  • @bingoos9641
    @bingoos9641 4 года назад +1

    Rest in peace, jim.

  • @kazzafraz5607
    @kazzafraz5607 4 года назад +9

    5:52 I must go, my people need me

  • @memesmemes3143
    @memesmemes3143 9 месяцев назад +1

    so .... the sandman stun feature LITERALLY has the highest top priority in giving assist !!

  • @killerspieler7784
    @killerspieler7784 4 года назад +39

    "If i shoot somone and they die i'm the killer" Yep. That's how the law works.

  • @Keiinnn
    @Keiinnn 4 года назад +1

    Woaaaah, the editing was great, keep up the good work dude!

  • @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203
    @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203 4 года назад +4

    The funniest killfeed will be forever assisted suicide by the enemy team

  • @sandunderrad
    @sandunderrad 4 года назад +2

    Jim is not having a good day.

  • @toanuva6178
    @toanuva6178 4 года назад +4

    0:06, I think federally they’re called an accomplice

  • @ThePikminCaptain
    @ThePikminCaptain Год назад +1

    Don’t forget the 5th spot in the assist credit list, items like the nabler/balloonicorn etc

  • @ismaelcortes1698
    @ismaelcortes1698 4 года назад +24

    The Healing amputator Taunt effect count like "healing" (like the medigun) or like a "buff"?

  • @siewierszczyzna
    @siewierszczyzna 4 года назад +2

    IIRC Spies also get assists if they sap a building that someone else destroys.
    I.E. If a Spy saps a sentry, but a Demoman blows it up after the sapper is placed but before the sapper actually destroys the building, the Spy will get an assist.

  • @alphagem7080
    @alphagem7080 3 года назад +4

    You forgot about the spy when he saps a building and someone else destroys it the spy gets credit for the sapper

    • @VagueCastle649
      @VagueCastle649 2 года назад

      Since sappers are technically buildings that apply a debuff to engineer buildings, the spy gets the assist over the medic.
      _(Unfortunately does not apply to the cow mangler)_

  • @skepter4745
    @skepter4745 Год назад +1

    Engineers were harmed at the making of this video

  • @KT8D5
    @KT8D5 4 года назад +33

    I just love when i almost kill an enemy and random soldier kills him wirhout my credit. Really, does it work or not?

  • @thediamonddragon1256
    @thediamonddragon1256 2 года назад +1

    “If I shoot someone and they die, I’m the killer”
    The more you know

  • @squishybrick
    @squishybrick 3 года назад +9

    1:52 is the jarate.. .. Behind his hand??

  • @juangarcia-nc6ur
    @juangarcia-nc6ur 4 года назад +2

    the spy face at 0:44 looks like sadness materialized

  • @mrstudent9125
    @mrstudent9125 4 года назад +5

    What about Spy’s sappers when crediting building destruction? I thought they always have the prioritiy.

  • @spidermanfan31
    @spidermanfan31 4 года назад

    I've been wondering this for over a decade now thank you so much

  • @sh4dowveil749
    @sh4dowveil749 4 года назад +2

    If a building is sapped then destroyed by someone then spy should always get the assist, wtf gaben

  • @yourbuddymuddy
    @yourbuddymuddy 4 года назад +2

    5:34 spies also get an assist credit if they have a sapper attached and someone else destroys the building

  • @ranibro
    @ranibro 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for curing my depression

  • @SU76M
    @SU76M 4 года назад

    Damn, I like your analysis videos so much. It's so informative!

  • @NGoldtear
    @NGoldtear 4 года назад +42

    I remember one time when I got a melee crit on a soldier taking him down to 5 HP, then the scout behind me shoots him for 5 damage immediately after, yet I don't get any assist at all? What's up with that?

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 года назад +4

      Possibly mad milked by said scout ? As demonstrated in this video, any buff / healing self applied to the killer might prevent a damaging ally to the assist credit

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 года назад +1

      @ a bit of a stretch, but maybe a soldier using the air strike is counted as "buffed" while in the air, due to the passive of the weapon ?

    •  4 года назад

      @@lesabreur3 I doubt it!
      also it was an example but it happened many times
      sometimes i got full credit when I didn't deserved it ^^'
      other times I abused these mechanics to steal the assists when i dont deserve them either hehe

  • @TF2Teleposter
    @TF2Teleposter 4 года назад +1

    3:19 the saddest spy

  • @viporal7898
    @viporal7898 4 года назад +8

    You forgot to mention the sappers on a building. When a spy saps the building and someone else destroys it, the spy gets the assist.

  • @chadasmr8304
    @chadasmr8304 3 года назад +1

    I just really love how encouraging the system is for teamwork. Celebrates helping with recognition.
    I really do love tf2

  • @Gis_Animations
    @Gis_Animations 4 года назад +4

    What if someone is healed by a crossbow? Would they get an assist?

    • @notster7114
      @notster7114 4 года назад +1

      It has to be active healing to have any effect, passive healing doesn't mean anything for assists, sandviches and the like

  • @deerymoredeer
    @deerymoredeer 4 года назад

    Bless you for 3:21 I was so curious when you started throwing that at then engineer and wanted to see how it was with the 3 of them lmao

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 4 года назад +3

    Can we get an f in chat for jim?

  • @_Kisaragi
    @_Kisaragi 4 года назад +1

    "if I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"

  • @El_Don_Comedia
    @El_Don_Comedia 4 года назад +8

    mate, it's pronounced as "conqueror". Spongebob lied to you

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu 4 года назад

    Great video. One little comment though since it might confuse newer players. Of the two people listed, the person listed first is the person who dealt the final blow (the video has it backwards).
    So if it says "Player1 + Player2 Victim" you know that Player1 is a pyro.

  • @vinicius6136
    @vinicius6136 4 года назад +4

    hey shounic i know this is not related to the video but i have question: in the guide you made to use your crosshair in tftv the guy that explains talk about "weapon script" and i dont know where the fuck this is, can you help me? thanks.

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu 3 года назад +1

    Personally, even though the buff priority is arbitrary, I feel like it is accidentally correct since I feel the heal on attack as the one least likely to have helped you make the kill. One buff increases damage. Two buffs increase survivability, but one of them only does so if you connect your shots while the Battalion's Backup buff is passive.

  • @stuff5757
    @stuff5757 4 года назад +5

    Hey I'm in the video at the top right corner of the screen 0:11

  • @awesomesauce7264
    @awesomesauce7264 4 года назад

    Fukin finally a video explaining this. You have no clue how many times I've gotten a sniper down to 2 hp as scout only then for a pyro with his stupid jetpack to fly in, steal the kill, and not give me any credit for the assist. As you can see, I'm really mad about this.

  • @MarkoVasev
    @MarkoVasev 2 года назад +2

    @1:47 God i miss the stunn so fucking bad guys the current sandman is so boring but the stun was so fun.

  • @thespectacularlymonochrome7891
    @thespectacularlymonochrome7891 3 года назад +1

    me dealing 299 damage to Heavy and then proceeding to get 0 assists when Scout deals 1 damage to him

  • @DEWILL
    @DEWILL 4 года назад

    Water + Jarate + Mad Milk + Gas
    ...Basically guacamole made out of TF2 effects?

  • @XallModel0
    @XallModel0 4 года назад

    Dude I love your content you are awesome and i think you really deserve more subs. Keep growing (:

  • @DoctorX149
    @DoctorX149 4 года назад +1

    You missed something- if a building is being sapped, but gets destroyed by another source of damage, the spy is credited with an assist.

  • @memesmemes3143
    @memesmemes3143 9 месяцев назад +1

    also -- as medic if you heal enemy spy and he gets a kill , you get assist for killing your own team mate !! lol

  • @charbomber110
    @charbomber110 4 года назад

    I love the awkward pause at the end of the intro part, like that's just asking to be taken out of context.

  • @matteo-ciaramitaro
    @matteo-ciaramitaro 4 года назад +1

    Buildings recognize assists if the spy is sapping it and someone else destroys it. Happened today while I was playing spy.

  • @dylanw.4598
    @dylanw.4598 4 года назад

    idk why but I absolutely love your editing

  • @redacted_lol
    @redacted_lol 4 года назад

    Yes! I was just wondering that recently. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @stevienitro
    @stevienitro 4 года назад +1

    So....basically all those times when I've been dealing with an enemy that's 1 shot away from dying, fucking dies by another scout and jarate combo.

  • @greasehardbody4018
    @greasehardbody4018 2 года назад +1

    4:07 - Well, I guess that makes 1 total reason to use the Buff Banner over the other Soldier banners.

  • @mewstiq
    @mewstiq 4 года назад +1

    omg, I didn't realize I had autoplay on and I just suddenly hear, "If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer".

  • @MariOfTheMountains
    @MariOfTheMountains 4 года назад +1

    You can also assist in killing a building if you have a sapper on it while it’s destroyed by something else.

  • @The_asdfghjkl
    @The_asdfghjkl 4 года назад

    Kinda glad that this guy still does tf2 things.So many people left due to the lack of new content.Just glad he still enjoys making this stuff.

  • @DJL3G3ND
    @DJL3G3ND 4 года назад +1

    wow I always just thought it was killer + damager but bloody hell tf2 has so much attention to detail

  • @bobsbrain397
    @bobsbrain397 4 года назад

    Thank you for answering just about every TF2-related shower thought I've ever had

  • @TextualDeviant
    @TextualDeviant 10 месяцев назад +1

    3:34 If it's really based on the first to heal and then the first to join the server, then what if they frame perfect joined the server and started healing you at the exact same time?
    A step further; what if all three events, kill included, all occur within the same frame?

    • @remedyreverie
      @remedyreverie 10 месяцев назад

      I don't think that's possible, for all 3 happening
      Although, heal and kill happening at the same frame can theoretically happen with the right amount of ping.

  • @Lirkz
    @Lirkz 3 года назад +1

    "if i shoot some guy and i die im the killer" ah yes this floor here is made out of floor

  • @Viktority
    @Viktority 4 года назад

    I love your content, it is so interesting. You answer the deepest and important thing in TF2!

  • @zcarp8642
    @zcarp8642 10 месяцев назад

    4:15
    Fun fact! Due to how the shell in question has 2 correct pronunciations, the concheror can be pronounced as conqueror, as conch is either pronounced as conch, or conk

  • @SkylorBeck
    @SkylorBeck 3 года назад

    1:52 hand drawn over bottle model broke my brain