I actually thought that he was building up into showing Plus immediately after talking about wanting a Plus version. I was surprised to see that it was actually a very old video and it cuts to the newly recorded segment.
Mega Collection Plus on PS2 is the thing that made my brain go "Hey you see this blue guy? Yeah that's your hyperfixation for the rest of your life. Deal with it."
I had 1, 2, 3 and 3D Blast on my Genesis and I still picked Mega Collection Plus to be my birthday game. I don't know why okay I think I was high off how much I loved discovering Mega Man through the Anniversary Connection earlier that year...
This is probably already pretty well known by fans, but there's actually a text file in Smash Pack Vol. 1 adressed to pirates and hackers saying that it's set up in a way that you can actually make your own Vol. 2 with the emulator included, and that they pay their respects to Uncle Sonic being it was released so close to the Dreamcast's end.
Sonic Team couldn't get the emulation right for CD in Mega Collection so they just left it for Gems Collection, and even then it's just a port of the PC version. Knuckles Chaotix wasn't included in Gems for a similar reason as CD in Mega Collection, and SegaSonic the Hedgehog wasn't included due to difficulties emulating the trackball.
Yuji Naka actually stated at some point that CD wasn't included in Mega Collection due to space concerns on the Gamecube disc, which makes sense since Sonic CD (Even the windows 95 pc version) takes up around 600-700MB for primarily it's music and Gamecube discs could only hold up to 1.5GB and Mega Collection already uses up most of that space due to bonus content and the collection exclusive music. So, they would have had to comprise on either one end, downgrade Sonic CD's music quality, or not include much bonus material.
Same, after that first sonic movie in 2020 I've been getting back into sonic these past 4 years, collecting wii and Xbox sonic games, getting sonic fan games on pc and even going to a sonic symphony last Saturday which was FANTASTIC
Sonic Classic Collection is how I was allowed to play the Genesis games when I was a kid. Sure, it’s not as filled as PSP’s Genesis Collection, but for a kid like me who adored his DS, it was the perfect collection to get into the franchise with.
41:12 what’s funny is…the switch version DOES have a smaller art book that fits within the case. at least in japan, where i got it. so that’s very funny
There's one thing to note about the Genesis Classics Collection's virtual room menu thing. Sega has a bunch of Genesis titles available on Steam. Originally, these were very straightforward releases, where each game was a separate entry on your steam library and booting them up just immediately booted up the game. However, in 2016, years after they were released on Steam, Sega updated them with the "Sega Genesis Classics Hub", which is the virtual room with the CRT TV and posters and everything. The games were then changed from independent game releases to DLC releases for the hub program. This was then used as the basis for the console Genesis Classics release a couple years later. The Steam version does get a few more extra benefits, like VR support (though I believe that was added later) and Steam Workshop support for romhacks.
@@JeskidoYT No, only the Genesis versions of Sonic 1, 2, and 3&K were when Origins released. The rest of the Genesis games are still up, including the other Sonic games.
Well, in some kind of crazy coincidental timing, Sega recently announced they'd be de-listing the whole collection in early December this year (plus some other classic titles). My guess is that they're planning on replacing it with something else, but I can't say for sure.
Mega collection is making the rounds on TikTok for how exceptionally nostalgic it is and the menu music especially. It evokes a weird self-aware nostalgic feeling as a kid and then a fully nostalgic one now as an adult.
The term nostalgic is the main theme of Mega Collection I feel, at least Mega Collection Plus. It has a historical archive feel to its presentation which is also translated into its music.
We owned Sonic CD on the PC in the late 90's when we snagged it from Best Boy along with the original Rayman. They both ran well on our ancient Windows 95 Pentium 1 computer and our Gravis game pad with only two action buttons so we were pretty happy.
Sonic Gem's box art was the biggest lie to me as a kid. When I saw the box I thought there was a new super awesome 3D Sonic game that is about fighting metal Sonic. When I learned it was just a collection of old games it broke my heart LOL. Never forgot that
I guess I'm one of the few kids from the time who checked magazines and the back of boxes to understand what I might be asking from my mom for birthdays or whatever. Also, I had already gotten Mega Collection at that point... and, I mean, it says "Collection," so that makes it pretty clear that it's multiple games and not one brand new one.
@@SamProcrastinates You were disappointed that this wasn't a "new super awesome 3D Sonic game about fighting metal Sonic" but plenty surprised when you got to the end of sonic the fighters and found out it was actually a "old super awesome 3D Sonic game about fighting metal Sonic" right? ( Insert twitch kappa emote here ) P.S. Also metal Sonic new rocket ship form was cool and the inserts quarter here they put on him for his fight was a nice detail. 🙂
Same feeling I felt when I picked up Rayman DS back in the day. When I realised it was just Rayman 2 it broke my little young heart (even though I loved that game to bits)
The Sonic Mega Collection box art just feels right. Especially for that generation of consoles and handhelds where sonic merchandise, games, tv show, everything was in full swing. The art style for this and the GBA games all went together perfectly and was just charming. Loved the art style for sonic in the early 2000s.
I absolutely love how Ken Sugimori did the cover art for the 3DS Sega collections. He’s my favorite video game artist and I dig his style for Sonic. It’s wild to see him drawn in a more Pokémon-like style.
Fun Fact: the emulator used for Sega Smash Pack on the Dreamcast was actually the same one used for what could arguably considered the earliest predecessor to the Virtual Console, in which online subscribers of SegaNet could play old Genesis AND PC Engine games on their Dreamcast, also the PC Engine games didn't have any of the sound issues that the Genesis games do.
as a kid i had a psp with sega mega drive (genesis) collection and I used to play sonic 1 + 2 so much on there. These collections get young kids into older games
The main channel is incredible, but as time goes I’m appreciating this channel more and more. The videos might be less scripted and planned, but they’re a lot more frequent and more ‘off the cuff’ and go into more random niche things that I find myself thinking about every now and then, which is awesome. It’s really cool to see Scott get a platform where he can just chat about his passion with us
So many afternoons in my childhood spent on Mega Collection. From trying to beat the genesis games (never did it as a kid) to playing with my family at Mean Bean Machine. Even looking at the Archie comic covers, which i never really got around to reading fully. It was great. Loved Ristar.
Sonic Gems Collection was the main reason I bought a Gamecube. Every time I was able to play a Sonic the Fighters arcade cabinet the power would go out. I was stoked to know it was actually getting a home port.
I think Scott is downplaying how unique and different the Master System/Game Gear Sonic games can be, particularly Sonic 1 and 2. Those are completely different games in terms of level design compared to the Genesis versions, and they actually are quite good when i played them on Origins Plus
@@jokuemt Right, he did do that in this video. However, he spoke on these games multiple times in the past and kinda just dismissed them as throwaway bonuses nobody would actually play, which was what I had issue with. Yeah, there are some borderline worthless games in there like Labyrinth or the GG version of Mean Bean Machine, but still.
I think the most frustrating thing about Sonic Origins is the fact that the Sonic 3 prototype music actually sounded really good on original hardware with the Genesis soundchip. But then they had Jun Senoue try to touch those tracks up for Origins instead of just using the original prototype versions on the ROM, and they stick out like a sore thumb. They don't blend in with the rest of the OST at all anymore! It's weird how Jun Senoue just can't do chiptune anymore. Then again, I think it was more like the programmers translated his compositions for games like 3D Blast because Green Grove is also a banger. But Sonic 4's OST was also stinky when he tried to do "retro."
Jun Senoue is the main composer for most of the modern 3D games (mostly notable in the Adventure games), his guitarist skills are drastically different than comparing it to Masato Nakamura (STH1&2, Advance), Howard Drossin (S3&K, Spinball), Naofumi Hataya (SCD), Masafumi Ogata (SCD)... they've handled the classic 2D games while chiptune isnt Senoue's style. also, i never realized Senoue composed Sonic 4! (probably cause i never play it) big wtf for me.
@@Retrblu I know that. What I'm trying to say is that they tried remaking the prototype tracks, and they sound worse in Origins than in the leaked ROM. It's like they used different instruments or something. I don't know what, but they definitely don't sound like Genesis music anymore. Carnival Night sounds more depressed in Origins than the prototype track as well, for example.
@cullbear55 the versions of the tracks used in origins were already created during Sonic 3's development, SEGA just used those versions instead of the one's from the leaked prototype, they didn't change anything, they used already existing versions of the tracks,that were what the Sonic and Knuckles collection versions were based off of
@@Retrblu First of all it's incredibly stupid for Sega to use earlier prototype music, instead of the more finished ones from the prototype that is completely publicly accessible. Second of all, I can almost guarantee that if we ever get the prototype that Sega is pulling these tracks from, that they are going to sound better than what we got here in Origins. In fact, I'd argue the PC Sonic & Knuckles Collection versions of these tracks sound better than the ones in Origins.
The biggest thing I think you didn’t touch on was the games that allows you to play Sonic 3 + Knuckles specifically. So many complications didn’t allow that, or didn’t even have 3 at all, which is a lot of people’s favorites. The Mega Collections and the DS ones were the only ways for a long time if you didn’t have a PC (steam version was OK and made better with fan mods)
Yeah, I suppose it was like that for a long time for collections! There was Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles available separately for the Xbox 360 marketplace and Wii Virtual Console outside of Mega Collection and Classic Collection at the time. Don't know if they were also on PS3 Store but Sonic 1 and Sonic 2.
I remember being really sad I couldn’t play sonic 3 and knuckles as a complete game but then losing my mind when I figured out you actually could on the ds collection. Made it worth it for that reason alone
Sonic mega collection plus has to be the best (in my opinion) Back then it was $20 for more then 7 games, Archie comics, the music is great, and trailer to new Sonic games at the time. Played this so much on the ps2
I really wish origins did more for its extras game gear is fine and i like the art and videos but some IDW comics included wouldve been awesome its crazy how many archie comic were fully readable on mega collection
20:57 Fun fact: from what i can remember from when i played this as a kid. Whenever you'd pick up the speed shoes in sonic 2 (and i think 1,3&k aswell) the music woulld just pitch up instead of actually speeding up like its meant to
FUN FACT Sonic CD was going to have a level in sonic generations. Wacky Workbench was planned but they cut it so that there would be three levels per era, they considered having it be dlc before they decided against that too.
Sonic Mega Collection on Gamecube made me the Sonic Fan I am today, love the presentation, the Gallery Theme where you view the character profiles, manuals, and trailers, still resonates with me to this day, it was weird how you had to keep playing some games a certain number of times to unlock the other hidden games.
I was actually kinda dissapointed that Shadow Generations didnt have the weird slip cover with Geralds journal being the book instead of an artbook. They made it tiny enough to fit in the Switch case.
I feel like the Scott the Woz channel and Scott’s Stash kind of have their own feels. Scott the Woz is a funny channel where he talks about games, it’s funny and over the top. Scott’s Stash feels like something I could watch while drinking tea, it’s chill, occasional jokes and such and an all around good chill time.
Remember when they could use the Modern Characters on the Boxart and all Merchandise before the Classic and Modern split? They would definitely not do that today and to be honest it's something I kinda miss about the 2000s Era of Sonic, this specific point in time for Sonic. Not only did the Mega Collection have the modern branding in the classic games it also featured the comics quite prominently, and when you jump into Sonic Adventure DX that game had some Sonic X stuff injected in too. It really felt like the brand as a whole was a lot more unified, if you liked Sonic you liked all of Sonic.
I've always viewed Sonic Gems as the Sonic & Knuckles of the 2 Gamecube collections. It always felt like both collections were at some point meant to be 1 big one, but in development, had to get cut in half for whatever reason.
The presentation in both Mega Collection and Gems Collection are designed to be “nostalgic” on purpose, even back in the day. The compilations are going for a historical archive feel, especially in Mega Collection Plus and Gems Collection. I personally like this archival aesthetic more than the typical Sonic aesthetic seen in Origins. As for Origins, it’s not a terrible port if you don’t own a PC or care to play the native fan remasters of the classic games. It has some questionable creative choices, especially with game customization, but it’s still a standard Sonic collection for people that just want to sit down and play the classics on their modern consoles or even PC if they don’t care about Team Forever’s fan port or S3 AIR
Playing sonic collection on ds was how i played all the original games (except knuckles as i did play that at a friend's on the Genesis). Absolutely love that collection. Playing those games on the go and being able to play as Knuckles in 2 and 3 was awesome.
Classics Collection on DS was definitely my jam growing up. A Sonic jam if you will. These days I no longer have the game but Origins Plus is definitely good enough for me.
The SEGA Genesis Classics (PS4 version) actually came first on PC, and branded itself as a VR title, hence the presentation. They also tried to do some weird Steam Workshop stuff with it, it was a very odd time for SEGA on PC.
I only have Sonic Mega Collection Plus, through a pack-in collection with Adventure DX, Riders and Heroes for PC. That is still my prized possession related to the Sonic series, because I'm pretty sure it was an Australian exclusive for a time.
_Sonic PC Collection,_ right? Shit takes me back... And yeah, it was released exclusively in Australia and New Zealand. Literally nowhere else got it, which was amusing to find out when I was older.
37:20 Sonic Origins Plus already happened, and Amy became playable in all of the compilation's games save for the Game Gear titles. Also, some Game Gear titles got thrown in as a bonus. Sure hacks like Amy in Sonic 1, Sonic 2 Pink Edition, and Sonic 3 Cz exist, but I think Sonic Origins Plus is easier for Sonic fans that want to play CD and the original trilogy as Amy.
In Sonic Gems collection's defense, it does have a robust set of unlockables via the museum, which includes the final level of a ton of games for you to play. Which is mega weird how they flat out emulate those games in a save state but don't let you play them outright without cheat codes.
One thing not mentioned about Classic Collection on the DS... While yes, there is screen crunch having to squeeze the original resolution to match the DS', the start button couldn't do anything, you NEEDED to press the touch screen in order to pause the game. You also couldn't input the classic cheat codes with that in mind too. The main standout for this collection was the ability to play the Genesis games on your DS... then the 3DS remasters came out for the first two games, leaving you with only 3 & Knuckles being the only way to play that game on the go... unless you decided to hack your 3DS of course. It's still perfectly playable if you can adapt to using the screen crunch, the touch screen to pause, and don't have any intention of using any cheat codes. Supposedly (and controversially at the time), it was revealed the game pack had an emulator playing these games as roms. 26:00 - As for THIS Collection... the PC version on Steam actually had Sonic 3 & Knuckles along with more games and you could also further add even more games to it using actual roms, this includes romhacks... However, that's just the Steam version, I have this on Switch as well and... there's quite an annoying input lag (about 1 whole second) that keeps me from playing this as much.
Fun fact: the Genesis emulator inside the 2001 Sega Smash Pack for Dreamcast gained popularity with homebrew groups where it became major point of investigation under Operation Fastlink, a 2007 FBI undercover bust of over 100 individuals distributing pirated software.
Does he not know that Sonic 3 and Knuckles were on the Steam version of Sega Genesis and Mega Drive Collection? They were removed for the console versions for some reason.
I knew they were going to cheap out on trying to get the rights, and I was prepared to swallow that, but the fact they basically kept it a secret up until the last minute....yeah. I am a huge classic Sonic fan, and I refused to buy the Origins collection basically because they couldn't be arsed to be truthful up front.
I grew up with Sonic Classic Collection on the DS and it has problems. For one you can't use the sound test/ stage select room and debug mode in normal Sonic 2 because the title screen was deliberately changed not to include the options on the title screen (selecting whether you wanted to play as Sonic or Tails was changed to be something you do on the title screen instead of the options menu, also the title screen was probably changed to remove the multiplayer mode), but you can in Knuckles in Sonic 2 using a cheat code on the title screen. Emulation wise it's obvious that part of the screen is cutoff, especially with the light blue chaos emerald in the opening of Sonic 3. Loading a save file only loads at the beginning of the stage rather than the spot you saved at. Also when loading your save the special stages in Sonic 1 and 2 would not let you retry them if you failed them even if you load a save from before you failed them. The special stages in Sonic 2 and 3 had low frame rates that made them way harder. I will say it was cool having the knuckles lock on features included in Classic Collection because it wasn't included with Sonic's Ultimate Sega Genesis Collection. Despite growing up with Classic Collection, it's difficult to go back to.
Easily the best part of these side channels for popular RUclipsrs, for them to produce quick & dirty videos that are more stream of conscious than their regular output, which requires a considerable degree of planning & execution, is how you get to discover how they truly think about things and thus are truly vapid they are.
Sonic Classic Collection DS was what brought me into sonic as a whole growing up. Picked it off the shelf with my dad at a Blockbuster before it went under, even with the lackluster presentation I do feel it held its purpose for the DS era
I believe sonic gems collection had more games in Japan as well just like in mega collection. I also believe Knuckles chaotix and Sega sonic ( maybe just 1 I might be miss remembering ) were planned for gems collection but I think they lost the code for 1 and the other they couldn't figure out how to get the track ball controls to work on a controller.
Mentioning that the emulation seems worse in Mega Collection Plus reminded me; that game had a PC version, which did have an NTSC release, but it uses PAL roms regardless of region (and also has incorrect sound emulation; the most obvious tells for that are Tails's whirring sound and the jump sound). Did the console releases also use PAL roms?
Sega Genesis classics collection on switch and ps4 is a neutered version of the pc version, which has (had) a few more games available for it, and workshop support with which you can add mods to those games from the community (or even do it from outside the workshop, with just a little fiddling with files). The Ken Sugimori (pokemon artist) art for the 3ds collection is a pretty neat bonus. Just that it exists, more than a reason to get that release.
I know Scott doesn't really use mods, but on PC there's a mod for Origins called Ultrafix, that fixes all of its little issues, (including giving the Sonic 3 prototype tracks a brand-new coat of paint,) making it in my opinion the definitive way to play most of these games.
can't believe Sega 6-pak wasn't included in this discussion /lh (it only has the original Sonic The Hedgehog and thus wasn't eligible for discussion in this video)
It's a weird feeling, I guess I'd call it "incomplete shared nostalgia" where I grew up with the Mega Collection Plus on PS2, but most people grew up with regular Mega Collection on GameCube. Another one would be having LEGO Star Wars 1 and 2 seperate, whilst everyone else had the Complete Saga. It's like 90% the same expirence, but that little bit of difference has an odd feeling that I can't really describe.
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It's becoming more apparent that you actually own Sonic Jam lmao.
Well he IS the guy who owns Sonic Jam
It's in the video lil bro
Idk, I need more evidence
15:04
Could be real
Finally a 53 minute video about Sonic Jam
Michael Jackson Jam
I hope that Scott should talk about the Sega All-Stars Games one day.
Is Scott on the floor or the rug on the table?
Sir a second Scott Stash video has hit the subscription inbox
11/1
Holy sht true, I forgot lol. It is a special occasion to get two so close
Boooooooooooooooooooo
I could immediately tell this video was recorded at least a couple of years ago when he expressed hope for a Plus version of Origins.
I actually thought that he was building up into showing Plus immediately after talking about wanting a Plus version. I was surprised to see that it was actually a very old video and it cuts to the newly recorded segment.
it’s one of the videos formerly exclusive to the trading cards, they’ve been getting gradually released to the public over time
I could tell immediately by just literally reading the description
absolute insane shit i know
You mean like 5 min before he went on about plus good job sherlock
@@chaosbringer666 Imagine insulting someone when you don't actually understand what they're saying.
Mega Collection Plus on PS2 is the thing that made my brain go "Hey you see this blue guy? Yeah that's your hyperfixation for the rest of your life. Deal with it."
Literally me
That was me with Shadow the Hedgehog when I won his plush at my elementary school fun fair
Sonic fans try not to be autistic challenge (failed)
Same, only it was PC for me at my friend’s house… and Sonic Adventure, Heroes and Riders 😂
I had 1, 2, 3 and 3D Blast on my Genesis and I still picked Mega Collection Plus to be my birthday game. I don't know why okay I think I was high off how much I loved discovering Mega Man through the Anniversary Connection earlier that year...
This is probably already pretty well known by fans, but there's actually a text file in Smash Pack Vol. 1 adressed to pirates and hackers saying that it's set up in a way that you can actually make your own Vol. 2 with the emulator included, and that they pay their respects to Uncle Sonic being it was released so close to the Dreamcast's end.
I did not know this, thank you for sharing it! :D
this is the best way ive ever seen a company handle pirates
Oh trust me, Scott. You want to look into the Sonic comics. They're certainly something.
IDW or Archie?
@@sacrificiallamb4568Archie’s where it’s at. All of it.
Yeah, like when sonic cucked Tails
Where can i buy them ?
@@thetotodile7261 Your local comic shop or most major book stores.
There are SO MANY of these, but somehow, they all stand out in their own way.
Sonic Team couldn't get the emulation right for CD in Mega Collection so they just left it for Gems Collection, and even then it's just a port of the PC version. Knuckles Chaotix wasn't included in Gems for a similar reason as CD in Mega Collection, and SegaSonic the Hedgehog wasn't included due to difficulties emulating the trackball.
Yuji Naka actually stated at some point that CD wasn't included in Mega Collection due to space concerns on the Gamecube disc, which makes sense since Sonic CD (Even the windows 95 pc version) takes up around 600-700MB for primarily it's music and Gamecube discs could only hold up to 1.5GB and Mega Collection already uses up most of that space due to bonus content and the collection exclusive music. So, they would have had to comprise on either one end, downgrade Sonic CD's music quality, or not include much bonus material.
@@Turbulation1 okay but why was it a Xbox 360 exclusive for 15 years until Origins Plus??
Been on a real sonic kick lately, and this certainly won’t help stop that
Me to ngl. SonicXShadow kinda reawakened that and I've been going back to past games and am pretty hyped for the 3rd movie.
Same here, been watching and playing way more Sonic content than I have in the last decade
Same been buying up Sonic like crazy. Just got Sonic Origins Plus and next I'm gonna get Sonic x Shadow Generations
Same, after that first sonic movie in 2020 I've been getting back into sonic these past 4 years, collecting wii and Xbox sonic games, getting sonic fan games on pc and even going to a sonic symphony last Saturday which was FANTASTIC
I've been feeling that kick lately with Sonic 1 of all games. Not even the Origins version, just plain old Sonic 1. Not sure why.
Sonic Classic Collection is how I was allowed to play the Genesis games when I was a kid. Sure, it’s not as filled as PSP’s Genesis Collection, but for a kid like me who adored his DS, it was the perfect collection to get into the franchise with.
41:12 what’s funny is…the switch version DOES have a smaller art book that fits within the case. at least in japan, where i got it. so that’s very funny
granted SEGA is more involved in Japan so that makes sense
There's one thing to note about the Genesis Classics Collection's virtual room menu thing. Sega has a bunch of Genesis titles available on Steam. Originally, these were very straightforward releases, where each game was a separate entry on your steam library and booting them up just immediately booted up the game. However, in 2016, years after they were released on Steam, Sega updated them with the "Sega Genesis Classics Hub", which is the virtual room with the CRT TV and posters and everything. The games were then changed from independent game releases to DLC releases for the hub program. This was then used as the basis for the console Genesis Classics release a couple years later. The Steam version does get a few more extra benefits, like VR support (though I believe that was added later) and Steam Workshop support for romhacks.
And now that whole collection is delisted nowadays right?
@@JeskidoYT No, only the Genesis versions of Sonic 1, 2, and 3&K were when Origins released. The rest of the Genesis games are still up, including the other Sonic games.
The collection on console doesn’t include 3 and Knuckles for some reason but does on Steam / PC (or at least did).
the Sonic 3 & Knuckles DLC did get delisted way before the Sonic Origins release, due to the aforementioned Jackson State lawsuit
Well, in some kind of crazy coincidental timing, Sega recently announced they'd be de-listing the whole collection in early December this year (plus some other classic titles). My guess is that they're planning on replacing it with something else, but I can't say for sure.
Mega collection is making the rounds on TikTok for how exceptionally nostalgic it is and the menu music especially. It evokes a weird self-aware nostalgic feeling as a kid and then a fully nostalgic one now as an adult.
The term nostalgic is the main theme of Mega Collection I feel, at least Mega Collection Plus. It has a historical archive feel to its presentation which is also translated into its music.
People always been gushing over this music...my theory is because its really really good and nostalgic! :O
We owned Sonic CD on the PC in the late 90's when we snagged it from Best Boy along with the original Rayman. They both ran well on our ancient Windows 95 Pentium 1 computer and our Gravis game pad with only two action buttons so we were pretty happy.
Sonic Gem's box art was the biggest lie to me as a kid. When I saw the box I thought there was a new super awesome 3D Sonic game that is about fighting metal Sonic.
When I learned it was just a collection of old games it broke my heart LOL. Never forgot that
That happened to me too lol
I guess I'm one of the few kids from the time who checked magazines and the back of boxes to understand what I might be asking from my mom for birthdays or whatever.
Also, I had already gotten Mega Collection at that point... and, I mean, it says "Collection," so that makes it pretty clear that it's multiple games and not one brand new one.
@@SamProcrastinates You were disappointed that this wasn't a "new super awesome 3D Sonic game about fighting metal Sonic" but plenty surprised when you got to the end of sonic the fighters and found out it was actually a "old super awesome 3D Sonic game about fighting metal Sonic" right? ( Insert twitch kappa emote here )
P.S. Also metal Sonic new rocket ship form was cool and the inserts quarter here they put on him for his fight was a nice detail. 🙂
To be fair it had the word “collection” in the name
Same feeling I felt when I picked up Rayman DS back in the day. When I realised it was just Rayman 2 it broke my little young heart (even though I loved that game to bits)
The Sonic Mega Collection box art just feels right. Especially for that generation of consoles and handhelds where sonic merchandise, games, tv show, everything was in full swing. The art style for this and the GBA games all went together perfectly and was just charming. Loved the art style for sonic in the early 2000s.
I absolutely love how Ken Sugimori did the cover art for the 3DS Sega collections. He’s my favorite video game artist and I dig his style for Sonic. It’s wild to see him drawn in a more Pokémon-like style.
Fun Fact: the emulator used for Sega Smash Pack on the Dreamcast was actually the same one used for what could arguably considered the earliest predecessor to the Virtual Console, in which online subscribers of SegaNet could play old Genesis AND PC Engine games on their Dreamcast, also the PC Engine games didn't have any of the sound issues that the Genesis games do.
Still mad Knuckles Chaotix never gets put on a collection
Sega wants to ignore the 32X i guess
as a kid i had a psp with sega mega drive (genesis) collection and I used to play sonic 1 + 2 so much on there. These collections get young kids into older games
The main channel is incredible, but as time goes I’m appreciating this channel more and more. The videos might be less scripted and planned, but they’re a lot more frequent and more ‘off the cuff’ and go into more random niche things that I find myself thinking about every now and then, which is awesome. It’s really cool to see Scott get a platform where he can just chat about his passion with us
So many afternoons in my childhood spent on Mega Collection.
From trying to beat the genesis games (never did it as a kid) to playing with my family at Mean Bean Machine. Even looking at the Archie comic covers, which i never really got around to reading fully.
It was great.
Loved Ristar.
Playing 2P Mean Bean Machine means you got to hear that kickass 2P theme
Sonic Gems Collection was the main reason I bought a Gamecube. Every time I was able to play a Sonic the Fighters arcade cabinet the power would go out. I was stoked to know it was actually getting a home port.
Sounds like the universe's way of telling you there's better games out there.
it's funny cause most of the games aren't exactly masterpieces but for me it is the best sonic collection
@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 StF is kino.
I think Scott is downplaying how unique and different the Master System/Game Gear Sonic games can be, particularly Sonic 1 and 2. Those are completely different games in terms of level design compared to the Genesis versions, and they actually are quite good when i played them on Origins Plus
He was comparing the master system and game gear versions, not game gear vs genesis.
@@jokuemt Right, he did do that in this video. However, he spoke on these games multiple times in the past and kinda just dismissed them as throwaway bonuses nobody would actually play, which was what I had issue with. Yeah, there are some borderline worthless games in there like Labyrinth or the GG version of Mean Bean Machine, but still.
6:26 for Ken Penders art jump scare
45:00 Tempting fate with that comment about the Internet Archive.
TWO scott’s stash videos??
Yeah I’m set
I think I'm dreaming. Somebody pinch me.
Right after a main channel upload!!
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I think the most frustrating thing about Sonic Origins is the fact that the Sonic 3 prototype music actually sounded really good on original hardware with the Genesis soundchip. But then they had Jun Senoue try to touch those tracks up for Origins instead of just using the original prototype versions on the ROM, and they stick out like a sore thumb. They don't blend in with the rest of the OST at all anymore!
It's weird how Jun Senoue just can't do chiptune anymore. Then again, I think it was more like the programmers translated his compositions for games like 3D Blast because Green Grove is also a banger. But Sonic 4's OST was also stinky when he tried to do "retro."
Jun Senoue is the main composer for most of the modern 3D games (mostly notable in the Adventure games), his guitarist skills are drastically different than comparing it to Masato Nakamura (STH1&2, Advance), Howard Drossin (S3&K, Spinball), Naofumi Hataya (SCD), Masafumi Ogata (SCD)... they've handled the classic 2D games while chiptune isnt Senoue's style. also, i never realized Senoue composed Sonic 4! (probably cause i never play it) big wtf for me.
The proto type Sonic 3 music used in origins was already composed during Sonic 3's development, the only newly composed track was the super theme
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I know that. What I'm trying to say is that they tried remaking the prototype tracks, and they sound worse in Origins than in the leaked ROM. It's like they used different instruments or something. I don't know what, but they definitely don't sound like Genesis music anymore. Carnival Night sounds more depressed in Origins than the prototype track as well, for example.
@cullbear55 the versions of the tracks used in origins were already created during Sonic 3's development, SEGA just used those versions instead of the one's from the leaked prototype, they didn't change anything, they used already existing versions of the tracks,that were what the Sonic and Knuckles collection versions were based off of
@@Retrblu First of all it's incredibly stupid for Sega to use earlier prototype music, instead of the more finished ones from the prototype that is completely publicly accessible.
Second of all, I can almost guarantee that if we ever get the prototype that Sega is pulling these tracks from, that they are going to sound better than what we got here in Origins. In fact, I'd argue the PC Sonic & Knuckles Collection versions of these tracks sound better than the ones in Origins.
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The biggest thing I think you didn’t touch on was the games that allows you to play Sonic 3 + Knuckles specifically. So many complications didn’t allow that, or didn’t even have 3 at all, which is a lot of people’s favorites. The Mega Collections and the DS ones were the only ways for a long time if you didn’t have a PC (steam version was OK and made better with fan mods)
Yeah, I suppose it was like that for a long time for collections! There was Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles available separately for the Xbox 360 marketplace and Wii Virtual Console outside of Mega Collection and Classic Collection at the time. Don't know if they were also on PS3 Store but Sonic 1 and Sonic 2.
I remember being really sad I couldn’t play sonic 3 and knuckles as a complete game but then losing my mind when I figured out you actually could on the ds collection. Made it worth it for that reason alone
Sonic mega collection plus has to be the best (in my opinion)
Back then it was $20 for more then 7 games, Archie comics, the music is great, and trailer to new Sonic games at the time.
Played this so much on the ps2
I really wish origins did more for its extras game gear is fine and i like the art and videos but some IDW comics included wouldve been awesome its crazy how many archie comic were fully readable on mega collection
20:57 Fun fact: from what i can remember from when i played this as a kid. Whenever you'd pick up the speed shoes in sonic 2 (and i think 1,3&k aswell) the music woulld just pitch up instead of actually speeding up like its meant to
FUN FACT Sonic CD was going to have a level in sonic generations. Wacky Workbench was planned but they cut it so that there would be three levels per era, they considered having it be dlc before they decided against that too.
And then Casino Night zone was added instead due to the SEGA contract with Sonic Team where EVERY game has to have some sort of slot machine.
That's interesting! Where have you found this information?
which adds to my peeve that the only DLC in Sonic x Shadow Gens is going to be the Shibuya stage
Sonic Mega Collection on Gamecube made me the Sonic Fan I am today, love the presentation, the Gallery Theme where you view the character profiles, manuals, and trailers, still resonates with me to this day, it was weird how you had to keep playing some games a certain number of times to unlock the other hidden games.
Thank you Scott for another video talking about something so specific yet interesting to listen
Fun fact: the box art for the sega 3d classics collections were done by Ken Sugimori, one of the main artists for the Pokémon series
I was actually kinda dissapointed that Shadow Generations didnt have the weird slip cover with Geralds journal being the book instead of an artbook.
They made it tiny enough to fit in the Switch case.
I feel like the Scott the Woz channel and Scott’s Stash kind of have their own feels. Scott the Woz is a funny channel where he talks about games, it’s funny and over the top. Scott’s Stash feels like something I could watch while drinking tea, it’s chill, occasional jokes and such and an all around good chill time.
Cool to see Scott’s adding extra content to these videos sometimes. It’s just like the extras in Sonic collections!
Remember when they could use the Modern Characters on the Boxart and all Merchandise before the Classic and Modern split?
They would definitely not do that today and to be honest it's something I kinda miss about the 2000s Era of Sonic, this specific point in time for Sonic.
Not only did the Mega Collection have the modern branding in the classic games it also featured the comics quite prominently, and when you jump into Sonic Adventure DX that game had some Sonic X stuff injected in too. It really felt like the brand as a whole was a lot more unified, if you liked Sonic you liked all of Sonic.
I enjoy Sonic Jam on Saturn via the Saroo ODE. Though I don't own a physical copy like you do, which is still an amazing feat by the way.
Two Scott’s Stash videos in one day!? Thank you!!!
I see Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, my day automatically gets better. Thank you Scott
I've always viewed Sonic Gems as the Sonic & Knuckles of the 2 Gamecube collections.
It always felt like both collections were at some point meant to be 1 big one, but in development, had to get cut in half for whatever reason.
Kinda true. Gems Collection was done so they could re-release CD, and then also took the opportunity to port Sonic R and Sonic The Fighters.
0:11 this struggle is real lol
It amazes me how Scott can just pump content day after day talking about video games
There's something so nostalgic and comfy about Sonic, I'm so happy this is 53 minutes long.
36:09 YOU FOOL THERES A SECRET BEHIND THAT WALL AAAAAA
The presentation in both Mega Collection and Gems Collection are designed to be “nostalgic” on purpose, even back in the day. The compilations are going for a historical archive feel, especially in Mega Collection Plus and Gems Collection. I personally like this archival aesthetic more than the typical Sonic aesthetic seen in Origins.
As for Origins, it’s not a terrible port if you don’t own a PC or care to play the native fan remasters of the classic games. It has some questionable creative choices, especially with game customization, but it’s still a standard Sonic collection for people that just want to sit down and play the classics on their modern consoles or even PC if they don’t care about Team Forever’s fan port or S3 AIR
The R in Sonic R stands for Racing
I love that I immediately knew exactly what Scott was gonna bitch about with Origins Plus physical release.
Playing sonic collection on ds was how i played all the original games (except knuckles as i did play that at a friend's on the Genesis). Absolutely love that collection. Playing those games on the go and being able to play as Knuckles in 2 and 3 was awesome.
4:35 oh hey Scott's talking about that game doesn't exist
Classics Collection on DS was definitely my jam growing up. A Sonic jam if you will.
These days I no longer have the game but Origins Plus is definitely good enough for me.
Very cool and appropriate using Hard Times as background music on a video about the merits of older Sonic compilations.
I understood that reference.
15:02 Insert Scott owning Sonic Jam joke here
Bro is never gonna shake the “guy who owns sonic jam” allegations
The SEGA Genesis Classics (PS4 version) actually came first on PC, and branded itself as a VR title, hence the presentation. They also tried to do some weird Steam Workshop stuff with it, it was a very odd time for SEGA on PC.
I only have Sonic Mega Collection Plus, through a pack-in collection with Adventure DX, Riders and Heroes for PC.
That is still my prized possession related to the Sonic series, because I'm pretty sure it was an Australian exclusive for a time.
_Sonic PC Collection,_ right? Shit takes me back...
And yeah, it was released exclusively in Australia and New Zealand. Literally nowhere else got it, which was amusing to find out when I was older.
37:20 Sonic Origins Plus already happened, and Amy became playable in all of the compilation's games save for the Game Gear titles. Also, some Game Gear titles got thrown in as a bonus. Sure hacks like Amy in Sonic 1, Sonic 2 Pink Edition, and Sonic 3 Cz exist, but I think Sonic Origins Plus is easier for Sonic fans that want to play CD and the original trilogy as Amy.
Sonic compilations are so fun!
Nice Sonic The Hedgehog "Sonic Collection" collection Scott
In Sonic Gems collection's defense, it does have a robust set of unlockables via the museum, which includes the final level of a ton of games for you to play. Which is mega weird how they flat out emulate those games in a save state but don't let you play them outright without cheat codes.
OMG, the Smash Pack unlocked a core memory of Sega Swirl. I also believed that was the first time I've played Shining Force
Ended up in the hospital... Took a shot every time he said nostalgia.
One thing not mentioned about Classic Collection on the DS... While yes, there is screen crunch having to squeeze the original resolution to match the DS', the start button couldn't do anything, you NEEDED to press the touch screen in order to pause the game. You also couldn't input the classic cheat codes with that in mind too.
The main standout for this collection was the ability to play the Genesis games on your DS... then the 3DS remasters came out for the first two games, leaving you with only 3 & Knuckles being the only way to play that game on the go... unless you decided to hack your 3DS of course.
It's still perfectly playable if you can adapt to using the screen crunch, the touch screen to pause, and don't have any intention of using any cheat codes.
Supposedly (and controversially at the time), it was revealed the game pack had an emulator playing these games as roms.
26:00 - As for THIS Collection... the PC version on Steam actually had Sonic 3 & Knuckles along with more games and you could also further add even more games to it using actual roms, this includes romhacks... However, that's just the Steam version, I have this on Switch as well and... there's quite an annoying input lag (about 1 whole second) that keeps me from playing this as much.
Fun fact: the Genesis emulator inside the 2001 Sega Smash Pack for Dreamcast gained popularity with homebrew groups where it became major point of investigation under Operation Fastlink, a 2007 FBI undercover bust of over 100 individuals distributing pirated software.
Sonic Mega Collection is my childhood ❤. The extras menu theme is what got me into gaming music.
Does he not know that Sonic 3 and Knuckles were on the Steam version of Sega Genesis and Mega Drive Collection? They were removed for the console versions for some reason.
12:36 The voice quality difference
Thanks for sobering me up Scott. I drank too much and decided to watch you. I missed you and knew you would make me closer to sober. What a guy❤️.
Mega Collection, PS3/PS4 Genesis Collection, and Origins are my favorite
Hey it’s the guy who owns sonic jam!
HE OWNS SONIC JAM
The music issue in Sonic 3 is a huge deal for me. I really loved those tracks.
I knew they were going to cheap out on trying to get the rights, and I was prepared to swallow that, but the fact they basically kept it a secret up until the last minute....yeah. I am a huge classic Sonic fan, and I refused to buy the Origins collection basically because they couldn't be arsed to be truthful up front.
Gotta love that Scott has to say trading cards because he (Seemingly) considers mentioning G4 taboo.
I grew up with Sonic Classic Collection on the DS and it has problems. For one you can't use the sound test/ stage select room and debug mode in normal Sonic 2 because the title screen was deliberately changed not to include the options on the title screen (selecting whether you wanted to play as Sonic or Tails was changed to be something you do on the title screen instead of the options menu, also the title screen was probably changed to remove the multiplayer mode), but you can in Knuckles in Sonic 2 using a cheat code on the title screen. Emulation wise it's obvious that part of the screen is cutoff, especially with the light blue chaos emerald in the opening of Sonic 3. Loading a save file only loads at the beginning of the stage rather than the spot you saved at. Also when loading your save the special stages in Sonic 1 and 2 would not let you retry them if you failed them even if you load a save from before you failed them. The special stages in Sonic 2 and 3 had low frame rates that made them way harder.
I will say it was cool having the knuckles lock on features included in Classic Collection because it wasn't included with Sonic's Ultimate Sega Genesis Collection.
Despite growing up with Classic Collection, it's difficult to go back to.
Easily the best part of these side channels for popular RUclipsrs, for them to produce quick & dirty videos that are more stream of conscious than their regular output, which requires a considerable degree of planning & execution, is how you get to discover how they truly think about things and thus are truly vapid they are.
13:18 Want Tuah 🗿🍷
Oh nice! A new video from the guy who owns Sonic Jam!
Sonic Classic Collection DS was what brought me into sonic as a whole growing up. Picked it off the shelf with my dad at a Blockbuster before it went under, even with the lackluster presentation I do feel it held its purpose for the DS era
I really wish we got a full 3D sonic game on the Sega Saturn just because I love that look
I believe sonic gems collection had more games in Japan as well just like in mega collection.
I also believe Knuckles chaotix and Sega sonic ( maybe just 1 I might be miss remembering ) were planned for gems collection but I think they lost the code for 1 and the other they couldn't figure out how to get the track ball controls to work on a controller.
That’s for you. Poorly managing their archives since the 2000s
Never before has a topic touched my heart so much
Dr. Robotnik’s Mean Bean Machine was my childhood 😭 im glad it always wormed its way into random collections
Mentioning that the emulation seems worse in Mega Collection Plus reminded me; that game had a PC version, which did have an NTSC release, but it uses PAL roms regardless of region (and also has incorrect sound emulation; the most obvious tells for that are Tails's whirring sound and the jump sound). Did the console releases also use PAL roms?
"Oh boy! Scott gets to talk about Sonic Mega Collection again!"
-Somebody, maybe
Sega Genesis classics collection on switch and ps4 is a neutered version of the pc version, which has (had) a few more games available for it, and workshop support with which you can add mods to those games from the community (or even do it from outside the workshop, with just a little fiddling with files).
The Ken Sugimori (pokemon artist) art for the 3ds collection is a pretty neat bonus. Just that it exists, more than a reason to get that release.
babe wake up, scott released another sonic compilation video
Sonic Mega Collection on GameCube was partially my introduction to the series so I will always cherish that one since I didn't grow up with a Genesis.
Perfect timing for this video I’ve been replaying some sonic games lately since generations X shadow came out
I know Scott doesn't really use mods, but on PC there's a mod for Origins called Ultrafix, that fixes all of its little issues, (including giving the Sonic 3 prototype tracks a brand-new coat of paint,) making it in my opinion the definitive way to play most of these games.
can't believe Sega 6-pak wasn't included in this discussion /lh (it only has the original Sonic The Hedgehog and thus wasn't eligible for discussion in this video)
My favorite Scott's Stash calling card is not realizing the video has ended
It's a weird feeling, I guess I'd call it "incomplete shared nostalgia" where I grew up with the Mega Collection Plus on PS2, but most people grew up with regular Mega Collection on GameCube. Another one would be having LEGO Star Wars 1 and 2 seperate, whilst everyone else had the Complete Saga. It's like 90% the same expirence, but that little bit of difference has an odd feeling that I can't really describe.
this makes my sonic mega collection for the GameCube love feel very validated. thanks scott
Two Scott's stash uploads, both nearly an hour, in 1 NIGHT? My evening is set.
I can’t believe scott’s own video got the sonic origins plus treatment
The presentation of Mega Collection is supposed to evocative of the box art for the genesis games in Japan