@@carterf3585 even if they make no mistakes, it's over. Mercedes has caught up, and they're gonna improve a lot more than Ferrari because it's Mercedes and their morale is crazy high right now.
@@umm7649 They put medium tired on him after the hard ones. Did you mean they ran out of soft tires? Pretty sure this is also not correct. At worst they still had used tires, but that would still have been faster then those hards.
When Charles had a first engine problem, I thought the engine durability will be the number one issue that may stop him from getting the WDC. I was wrong lol.
@@gandalf_thegrey Everyone seems to forget from what places Charles DNFd compared to max.... Max DNFd 2times with pretty much gurranteed 2nd place finishj.... leclerc DNFd from a comfortable win and a chance to fight for a win.... even if you think there is no way leclerc could have fight for the win in baku and that he would finish 3rd... He STILL would have lost more points than Verstapen... and dont forget.... the next few races would be Monza and SPa.... so I am expecting atleast one engine failure....
Wait you are allowed to change more then just the lap you are going come in on?????? (the Ferrari strategists). I honestly would not be surprised if all their plans D, E ,F calls are just 4, 5, 6 lap extensions of the main strategy (yes literally just their position in the alphabet).
Ferrari have definitely lost the plot this season, i really feel for Leclerc he must be fuming. Even Max, Lewis and Russel was laughing at the hard tyre on Leclerc’s car.
Just this season? I can remember plenty of times they just looked like they forgot about Kimi. At first it looked like he was to throw up a road block and slow those who had pitted down for Seb, only to leave him out there a couple more laps after being passed (on extremely old tires).
Everyone makes it sound like they were in the cooldown room laughing on the floor. It was a nervous "are you seeing what I'm seeing?" chuckle and that was about it.
They laughed, but they already know that he will get that. If you check the first laps in the Qualifying, you will see the reason, not just Mercedes, but even the McLaren, Alpine and Alfa Romeo was on already used tyre, but Ferrari was on new tyre there too, they simply doesn't left any mew soft tyre to the race. If you check the last laps for Leclerc, he only gained 3sec against Perez in the last 14 laps (before VSC). 0,2sec in each lap when your opponent has tyre disadvantage? (30+ laps with medium vs 14 laps with soft, pretty clear who have the advantage).
Matt is absolutely right!!!! Charles needs to speak up and take charge when it is needed. With Verstappen and Hamilton they have spoken up with determination when they don't agree with a team call even though at the time it might seem extreme. They are the drivers actually driving the car!!!!! The pit crew and team strategist are there to make sure the driver has the best car and support the driver to win the race, Not tell the driver every move to make and how to make it. This is where Lewis and Max have excelled with their driving. Look at Sainz Win!!! He completely ignored Ferrari pit wall and got a win!!!
I admire Sainz and his patience. That is one virtue that is hard to have as a Ferrari driver this season. Charles too. But probably why they are one of the best drivers in the world.
3:09 both Max and Hamilton does a lot of strategy calls with their teams. They could both be their own strategists, which anyone who has done even a lick of simracing knows isn't all that difficult IF you have all the information available too you, doubly so for F1 drivers who have literally spent their entire lives dedicated to racing. These guys knows wtf they're doing. Leclerc just gets a "We are checking" whenever he tries to talk about strategy. It's a complete communication breakdown over there
Ferrari is just full of old geezers who think they know better then the younger drivers.. they are Ferrari ofcrourse... the company thats out of touch for years now, both in f1 and the car industry
Not only that, how did Sainz get his first win? “Stop inventing”. That’s the approach of a champion. Drivers are driving they know what the feeling is like, computers and data should be assistants and stay as that.
McLaren in 2012 was similar. Started the year as best car on the grid. Lost development race. Hamilton and Jenson DNF´ed like 5 times while leading the race, pit stops were terrible. And they finished third in the constructors.
Matt I agree with you!! Charles needs to be more vocal like Hamilton, Vettel or Sainz at helping his team out a bit by letting them know if he can get tyres into temp range and his overall feel with the current tyres, rather than following them
@@didickcheeseburger I am afraid that "handling things'' that way is not tolerated at Ferrari. To many people high up in the hierarchy need to be kept happy. Ferrari is living in the past... They need a wake up call, but nobody speaks up. They desperately need a toto type of guy, but they won't hire him because of their ego. Lauda was right, as always: once the Italians reign at Ferrari it's downhill from there on....
@@fa7471987 I dont think so, I think if you have a strong personality (Like schumi) or adapt one, you can be a bit of a maverick and prove with your results that the team needs to listen to you when there are tricky situations.
@@fa7471987 i know. scuderia ferrari seems like its run by the mafia. theyve always had that vibe like "never go against the family". like when mattia binotto had his finger in leclercs face like he was telling him watch what you say even though the team kinda screwed him over
The reason for this disaster was the rain. I was sure, as was anybody, that the rain was gonna hit within the first half an hour of the race. Ferrari put on the mediums to keep safe in case the rain was gonna be late. But then the rain went away and no more was going to come, so they panicked and thought they need to respond to undercuts, rather than protect tire life because near the end of the race it was likely going to rain anyway, so they didn't need the tire life cause they were going to switch to the inter. But the rain never happened enough to get wet.
Yeah but they should have extended that first run then to see if the rain would come after lap 20 then. Thats what i thought they were going to do personally
It's incredible how every other team responds to change mostly fine. It's so uniquely Ferrari to bin it at the strategy level. Really shows how it's a team sport and we know what part of the team is bringing the rest down.
I was at the track on Sunday, and it was raining the whole race (more like drippings) but you could feel drops of rain for the whole race, and that confused them enough to make another mistake on the race..
FIA: The Andretti Motorsports team has asked what it takes to finish 4th and 6th in F1. Mercedes: "Continue developing your car throughout the season" Red Bull: "Hire two strong drivers" McLaren: "LuL wut?" Ferrari: "Easy, just start the race in 2nd and 3rd"
That sad thing is when I was watching, I thought putting on the hard tyre was a good idea when they did it. You wanna know what was a worse idea that even I didn't think was good? Pitting Leclerc AGAIN!
In fairness leclerc pitting again wasn't entirely stupid. It was clear Hamilton and sainz would overtake him and that he would end up just ahead of Perez if not behind if he stuck with hards. The issue with the pitstop was that leclerc was piss poor on the softs going slower than sainz and gaining like 1 second in about 10 laps on a guy that was on old mediums
Pitting in for softs was a good call given what has happened because there were drops of rain near the end. The track is too cold for hard tyres and was getting cooler because of the rain. Getting softs on greatly reduces the risk of slipping, even when you do lose 20 seconds, which he probably would've anyway if he stayed on the hards.
Literally not mentioned here at all was the fact that Carlos actually did the M>M>S tire route that would've made more sense, yet was still passed on-track by Lewis on the exact same strategy. I can only guess this was all because the Fezzas were a lot harder on tire life than the other teams.
Correct. Sainz couldn't make the medium last long enough to make this strategy work and ended up spending way too much time on the soft for his level of tyre degradation. If not for the late VSC, he would've been caught by Perez, and possibly also by Leclerc on his improvised 3-stop-strategy.
The truth is that he didnt have enough pace there. Even Max had better pace when his 30 laps medium was worse than Sainz's 20 soft tyres. In Austria it has been shown that Ferrari is better than RB when it comes into tyres so tyres shouldnt be an issue
That's true, but Leclerc could have made it work, especially if Ferrari hadn't brought him in too early on his first stint. He was way faster that day, fastest of everyone.
So max was so rapid that he literally intimidated them into reacting to his stop and pace because they figured they wouldn’t make up the ground later in the race. Max was fastest in Q2, had bad luck keeping him off the front row & then won from 10th. Imagine if he’d qualified were he should have would have… easy dubs for max. It would have made the race anti climatic but still. The pace of Ferrari wasn’t the same as they didn’t adapt to well to the cold temps.
Because if they did not have terrible strategy, they wouldn't be Ferrari. The team of "aerodynamics is for those who can't build engines". They've always been really keen of selfsabotage.
Lol, it was my first F1 race ever. Even i could see that it was a panic move. You could early on see how bad the hard tiers worked for Haas. I respected at the very least the change over to soft at the end as a practical admission of error. Very confuced what Haas is even doing tho, i understand that they have bad cars, but hard tiers and just "chilling" at the back was just weird to see
Ferrari seem to let the race come to them a lot of the time, just reacting. Looking surprised, not being proactive which has obviously cost them loads.
Good video idea at the end there @WTF1. "Fastest cars to not win the championship". McLaren 2012 comes to mind. Bad reliability, pitstops etc. Came 3rd in the end with the best car on most weekends.
We'll have to see what happens later on in the season because people forget how bad 2012 Mclaren were. What happened to Lewis then is essentially happening to Charles now. But the way Ferrari are going it looks like they are going to surpass Mclaren 😂
Bro this is ferrari if leclerc doesn't obey his team he will banned like seb and ferrari don't even care mercedes understands lewis and they have team spirit so they don't saying like you don't obey me i ban you instead they did what lewis's want and they win simple Ferrari have to get rid of their ego and start to understand their driver and going to wind wdc and wcc🏎💨
Honestly the strategy should've been a simple soft, medium, soft/medium. It was the easiest call. But in typical ferrari style, they have to screw everything up
I do feel like Lecrec needs to take charge when its him on the track. He understands what the car is going through as the race is going down so it should fall to him to make final say about the pit strategies until Ferrari stop panicking.
1:05 I liked the little "editing hocus pocus" (sorry if my technical jargon is a bit out of everyone's league 😉) they used to switch from medium to the hard tyres. What can I say I'm easily entertained, which is why I like Matt so much 😙
Charles Leclerc: "I can totally win a F1 Title with this car." Ferrari Strategists: "...actually, we have a better strategy, we'll lose instead." I swear, how is this the way Leclerc's title run seems to be decided? Do Ferrari even WANT to win anymore? I can understand one strategy blunder on occasion, but this? This has gotten to comedic levels at how often this happens. Ferrari is trying to win a championship, while at the same time, slashing their own Tyres. Something needs to change, right now, otherwise, Ferrari will forever be known as the farce that it is, instead of the serious team that wants to win, maybe this is how Andretti Motorsport comes in, by replacing a joke of a Ferrari team. Seriously, Charles would be LEADING the championship, or at the very least be arm's reach of the top spot, if it weren't for Ferrari's blunders. Instead, we get this: Max Verstappen wins due to Ferrari's mechanical failures. Max Wins due to blown strategy call. Max has a problem! Charles finishes 4th due to poor strategy. Getting pole doesn't do you much if you can't finish. And right now, I don't even think Ferrari WANT to finish. I feel horrible for Leclerc, and Sainz. How can you seriously go for race wins, when you can't trust any strategy posed by Ferrari? They deserve better, and the fans deserve better!
Doesn't really change anything if he get the soft tyre, just check Sainz result without the hard tyre. The main problem they have only already used soft tyres to the race (if you rewatch the Qualifying Q3 first measured lap, you will see only the 2 Ferrari and Verstappen used the shiny new soft there, 7 cars just saving one set new soft to the race). So the final result was horrible, Leclerc wasn't even competitive against Perez in the last 16 laps, Perez was on 30 laps old medium, Leclerc was on 16 laps old softs, but he only halved the 6sec to 3sec in 14 laps (before VSC). 0,2sec per laps on newer tyre is sad, but if they are also had softness difference too, that is laughable.
I thought Binotto had already made clear this year that “2022 goal is not to win the title”, everyone thought he was just taking the pressure of the team, but my guy was god damn serious about that.
I remember the radio call between them arguing hard or used softs (they had no fresh softs), at a stage softs wouldn't last until the end. Had Leclerc extended the mediums until the softs could go a full last stint, no extra stop was needed.
That radio message made me think "OMG, no! How could they do or think that!?". And then they cut a good stint short to actually do that. Thats their B...no A...we go for D strategy.
Starting with mediums wasn't a bad idea: Ferrari was performing amazingly with those on, so extending 2 mediums stints and then mounting soft tyres at the end with a lighter car would have been a perfect strategy for them.
It worked for Hamilton, he went from 7th to 2nd by the end of the race. Charles, starting in 3rd should have at the bare minimum scored a podium with the correct strategy.
An italian journalist counted how many points leclerc has lost by strategic and individual mistakes and it was 126 with counting the durability issues. Wow 🤩 that’s insane and think how many points red bull wouldn’t have if they hadn’t lost. I hate that it is a Frenchman ruining Ferraris races since they are an Italian team.
Toto Wolf explained this in his post-race interview: Ferrari didn't have a choice (!) on race day because the mistake happened on Friday. They had only hards and softs left and didn't allocate the correct number/types of tires. Of course, your point stands that they shouldn't have relied on hards based on the data. And yes, both Leclerc and Sainz need to start resisting bad calls!
Seeing the data afterward, Ferrari is lacking some pace, red bull is actually quicker than them. Even them going their own strategy to medium medium soft, it’s not a guarantee win for them, but can at least fight for podium. It’s not a surprise for max win after seeing their data. All the causes of shit strategy is lacking pace, it’s just like a domino effect.
Ferrari did the same thing in AbuDhabi 2010, panicking to cover Vettel's pitstop when Alonso didn't need to pit. Alonso got stuck behind Petrov so Ferrari handed Vettel the championship. Ferrari strategy has been a shtshow since Ross Braun left.
That was done to cover Webber’s pit stop whose stop only happened due to Webber’s right rear scraped a wall and was damaged. Ferrari panicked and thought Webber was doing an undercut but instead Ferrari seemingly and totally forgot about Vettel’s chances
There is no way Ferrari will keep P2, Merc actually behaves like a team that knows how to win championships; good reliability, consistency, knowing when to take the risk and when to play it safe. If the floor change after summer makes even the slightest difference, then that is it for Ferrari, they'll spend another decade without a title.
First: you're correct. Ferrari at the very least should have put Sainz on softs and Lecelrc on Mediums. This means Leclerc would be covering lewis behind him and Sainz would be chasing Russell ahead. Both strategies could have worked to be honest. Second: Ferrari focused too much on covering other teams. The first set of mediums didn't go long enough. Sainz came in one lap after George and still didn't get an undercut. Charles at least got an extra 5 out of the first set but then they got hardly anything on set 2. What a waste of a tire, there was still plenty of meat on the bone. Third, as Toto said, they lost it on Saturday by using misallocating the tires. Even if they had come onto softs, I don't think either driver had a new pair like Lewis (correct me if I'm wrong). Lastly, since Leclerc could have made it to the end on hards, why bother coming in to change back to softs? You've already paid the time to put the hards on, they can go to the end, at least make some people overtake you.
Did they still have medium tires to do a medium>medium>soft 2 stop strategy ? According to an interview from Toto, they (ferrari) consumed the majority of mediums on friday. So if that is the case, they already lost the weekend on friday. Can't somebody look that up, what tires ferrari used throughout the weekend ?
Toto indeed told in a post race interview that Ferrari probably did use the mediums up either on friday or saturday so they didnt have options, only hards and softs left and it was too early for softs.
You know both Ferraris ran two sets of mediums in the race, right? I'd say that's pretty conclusive proof they had enough for a strategy that required two sets of mediums. They were new sets too, in fact the only reason they couldn't switch to softs was that they panicked and stopped too early to try and prevent an undercut from Verstappen. The fact Lewis pulled off an M > M > S strategy very nicely, Max and Russel did S > M > M and even poor Carlos managed to stretch to an M > M > S strategy despite being stopped too early by Ferrari being spooked by undercuts and ruining his mid/late race pace shows conclusively that it was completely possible.
It's not just the 2nd pitstop. The 1st one was a rash decision as well pitting Sainz to overcut Russell. If they had done exactly what Hamilton did, the sensible strategy for a medium tyre start, they could easily maintain position behind Russell and use the softs at the end to easily overtake him, if they hadn't already.
because of ferrari consistantly make the wrong choices, and literally being in the fight for the championship. Mclaren fell off so no one cares about their strategy lmao
Why?? Ask Rueda, he is the accountable for the strategies and he decides to ruin Leclerc races in Monaco, Silverstone and Budapest. But the championship is still long.
Just fire the strategist already. Had a lot of chances to proove but season after season the same mistakes showing up. If they wont make this step Im gonna officialy sign a petition and convince some partners(sponsors) to do the same! Is it really that hard?
Apparently, our Italians ran out of tyres and in a panic mode set to massimo - they dived for hard set without thinking - they have a fetish for hard i guess - they had softs also available - ke sera sera ... what to say - rest is tragedy
I think Ferrari engineers just look what the computers say and when the circumstances change or the driver questions the strategy they panic, they really need to adapt and make fast decisions. In favor of Ferrari it's true the weather played a role, both drivers looked uncomfortable on Sunday except Charles with the medium.
they didnt HAVE to pit him again on the softs at the end. When he got the hard tire somewhat working the pace was probably ok to keep the position. That was actually another ferrari mistake none talks about because the first one was so crucial :D
I mean, Carlos did it just right on the last time Silverstone. Charles have to step up and be decisive himself when the Pit of Clowns just calls him for some cripple's diceroll of a strategy.
redbull and Mercedes take accountability for mistakes then work on making sure it doesn't happen again that's why they win championships. Ferrari is all politics and we can do no wrong
Because Ferrari. It’s quite simple really. No I think they thought Charles could go to the end while others would have an extra and their tires would go off and Charles with the Ferrari could make up the time. But underestimated how slow the tires were. But hey Ferrari no. Grazie ragazzi pagliacci!!
I think if Charles wants to win a WDC he has to leave Ferrari, and replace either Hamilton at Mercedes or Alonso at Aston (if they manage to have a decent car in a couple of years) when they retire.
Exactly what I summarised from the consistent strategy f ups… they keep reacting to the others instead of just driving the most optimal strategy. This certainly wasn’t the first race this season they’ve ruined their race chasing undercuts and reactionary strategies
Chuck (lol) is like Lewis in 07 at the Chinese gp where he trusted in the team rather than himself....wore the tires so badly he had no grip at the pit entry....I think after that lewis decided to trust himself more in the feel of the car
Nope. You got it wrong too. It's so funny watching everyone criticise Ferrari, while showing they're too stupid to understand what went wrong. It's like watching amateur chess players criticise the tactics of a Grand Master; saying _"oh, he shouldn't have moved his bishop there, that lost him the game"_ when that move was the only option at that stage, and the wrong move occurred back when he advanced his knight. Ferrari's mistake was NOT starting on the Mediums, contrary to your ridiculous claim, because that could have worked; Hamilton started on Mediums and came second. As a matter of fact it was a really good idea to start on the Mediums, and it could have worked really well. Their mistake was changing from Medium to Medium. THAT was the tactical error, but you clearly don't comprehend that fact, or the reason why...
Absolutely. 100% Charles needs to change teams in order to become world champion. He should be Hamilton's replacement as that will leave Mercedes with an extremely talented driver lineup with Russell and Leclerc.
Leclerc and Ferrari can be great of the right people are on the right spots in Maronello. Like in the 1997/2006 Schumacher era. 1996 was a building year. Lets hope 2022 is also a building year so the can go for the title in 2023.
Ferrari seems to be using a computer simulation only for their strategy, ignoring all external and human factors. This is the only explanation for this disaster... They have the best car, the best drivers and still they are struggling badly. I too believe that Mercedes will overtake them in the championship, unfortunately. Poor Leclerc...
To be fair, the mediums worked out as Charles was miles ahead, the problem was not maximizing the mediums and then switching to the softs or inters (if required) at the end. Of course using those awful hards was the biggest blunder of all
Max was so surprised to see the hards , he had to do the 360 to actually confirm visually that they actually did that
Nah man that was a spin out of happines. He saw the hards and was like "Weeeeeeeeeeee i don`t have any competition again" 🤣
😂
😂
And then did a little laugh
😅🤣........thats brutal 😂👍
We need a compilation at the end of the season of all of Ferrari's blunders in 2022 You know this one won't be the last...
It’s gonna be 5 hours long
@@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie How disappointing 😆
We've got what, 9 more races? That's between 9 and 18 horrendous Ferrari fuck ups guaranteed.
@@carterf3585 even if they make no mistakes, it's over. Mercedes has caught up, and they're gonna improve a lot more than Ferrari because it's Mercedes and their morale is crazy high right now.
With a benny Hill soundtrack on it
You know things are bad when Mercedes and Red Bull come together to laugh at you :/
Yea
Ferrari RAN OUT of medium tiers
@@umm7649 you do realize that you have to use at least two different compound of tires
@@umm7649 They put medium tired on him after the hard ones. Did you mean they ran out of soft tires? Pretty sure this is also not correct. At worst they still had used tires, but that would still have been faster then those hards.
@@ronrolfsen3977 charles did medium-medium-hard-soft. Sainz medium-medium-soft
The battle we were hoping for : Leclerc vs Verstappen
The battle we got : Leclerc vs Ferrari
When Charles had a first engine problem, I thought the engine durability will be the number one issue that may stop him from getting the WDC. I was wrong lol.
Haven't they had as much dnfs as RB?
Charles led by 45 point or so 3 races in.
@@gandalf_thegrey Everyone seems to forget from what places Charles DNFd compared to max.... Max DNFd 2times with pretty much gurranteed 2nd place finishj.... leclerc DNFd from a comfortable win and a chance to fight for a win.... even if you think there is no way leclerc could have fight for the win in baku and that he would finish 3rd... He STILL would have lost more points than Verstapen... and dont forget.... the next few races would be Monza and SPa.... so I am expecting atleast one engine failure....
Same 😁
Traditions
@@saytam_ar leclerc would have won baku, he had better tires, and he was faster.
Max and Red Bull: We changed the strategy before the race and adapted it to the conditions
Ferrari: We don't do that there
Ferrari RAN OUT of medium tiers
@@umm7649 You think a 3 stopper with 3 mediums and a soft would have been better? Because they need to change colour at least once.
Wait you are allowed to change more then just the lap you are going come in on?????? (the Ferrari strategists). I honestly would not be surprised if all their plans D, E ,F calls are just 4, 5, 6 lap extensions of the main strategy (yes literally just their position in the alphabet).
@@umm7649 boxed Charles way too early, almost the same as Max's red stint. Horrible call by Ferrari
Nah the plan was do whatever red bull doesn't do
Ferrari have definitely lost the plot this season, i really feel for Leclerc he must be fuming. Even Max, Lewis and Russel was laughing at the hard tyre on Leclerc’s car.
Just this season? I can remember plenty of times they just looked like they forgot about Kimi. At first it looked like he was to throw up a road block and slow those who had pitted down for Seb, only to leave him out there a couple more laps after being passed (on extremely old tires).
Strategically they've been shit for the last 6 years.
Everyone makes it sound like they were in the cooldown room laughing on the floor. It was a nervous "are you seeing what I'm seeing?" chuckle and that was about it.
@@Sertifi Yep. They've been terrible since the Vettel years. But this year just seems so much worse.
They laughed, but they already know that he will get that. If you check the first laps in the Qualifying, you will see the reason, not just Mercedes, but even the McLaren, Alpine and Alfa Romeo was on already used tyre, but Ferrari was on new tyre there too, they simply doesn't left any mew soft tyre to the race. If you check the last laps for Leclerc, he only gained 3sec against Perez in the last 14 laps (before VSC). 0,2sec in each lap when your opponent has tyre disadvantage? (30+ laps with medium vs 14 laps with soft, pretty clear who have the advantage).
Top tip for any other team: do whatever ferrari doesnt
Yes
Yes
And do exactly the opposite of what Ferrari does.
@@Edittname yeah that's what he meant
yes
The 360 spin for the fans was my favorite part of the entire race... I felt as if Red Bull wanted to stick it to Ferrari as if Max was a snowboarder.
Max was looking in the rear mirror and thought he spotted Charles having hard tires. So to take a better look he did the 360.
Ferrari RAN OUT of medium tiers- they started the race with lechare last set of mediums
@@deadbeef576 What a spin tho.
@@SuperMonkei kind of like Vettel
Matt is absolutely right!!!! Charles needs to speak up and take charge when it is needed. With Verstappen and Hamilton they have spoken up with determination when they don't agree with a team call even though at the time it might seem extreme. They are the drivers actually driving the car!!!!! The pit crew and team strategist are there to make sure the driver has the best car and support the driver to win the race, Not tell the driver every move to make and how to make it. This is where Lewis and Max have excelled with their driving. Look at Sainz Win!!! He completely ignored Ferrari pit wall and got a win!!!
You really think Charles isn t ?
Jup Vettel had to do that as well, that's why it looked like he was making the calls for the strat team because he actually was.
Just comes with confidence and experience. But it's mainly the engineers and staff fault
This is the most true fact I've ever heard 👍👍
More like Lance. "YES YES YES LEAVE ME ALONEEEE"
Sainz also did about 20 laps on a set of softs, reminds me of Vettel in Spain 2020
Ferrari drivers deserve better
23 iirc. Hamilton did 20. Both had good pace at the end.
It s just temperature
@@ijustfelldown Hamilton did, but I was surprised at how much slower Sainz was on those same softs.
I admire Sainz and his patience. That is one virtue that is hard to have as a Ferrari driver this season. Charles too. But probably why they are one of the best drivers in the world.
The way he said 'Max managed to pass him, 360 spin for the fans then pass him again!' Had me laughing fr 😂🙏
I was dying🤣
3:09 both Max and Hamilton does a lot of strategy calls with their teams. They could both be their own strategists, which anyone who has done even a lick of simracing knows isn't all that difficult IF you have all the information available too you, doubly so for F1 drivers who have literally spent their entire lives dedicated to racing. These guys knows wtf they're doing. Leclerc just gets a "We are checking" whenever he tries to talk about strategy. It's a complete communication breakdown over there
Ferrari is just full of old geezers who think they know better then the younger drivers..
they are Ferrari ofcrourse...
the company thats out of touch for years now, both in f1 and the car industry
Will come back to you.....
Stand by......
@@gruisman i think they ar full of stupid people that need to get fired because they suck at their job especially the strategy team all of them fired
Not only that, how did Sainz get his first win? “Stop inventing”. That’s the approach of a champion. Drivers are driving they know what the feeling is like, computers and data should be assistants and stay as that.
@@gruisman *Ferrari has sued you
Drive to survive Is gonna be full of Ferrari drama this season 😂😂.
I think the next season of DTS will be the first i watch for this reason solely
Alternative title: 4 minutes of Matt releasing his pent up frustrations of ferrari's questionable strategies
Questionable??? I am not sure they would rate even that high. The sad part McLaren did exactly the same thing.
@@glenchapman3899 I know :'( I think my heart broke a little for Daniel then
@@AahanaGoyal Absolutely. He had been having a pretty good race to that point.
@@glenchapman3899Exactly! It was a solid p8 at least for him
McLaren in 2012 was similar. Started the year as best car on the grid. Lost development race. Hamilton and Jenson DNF´ed like 5 times while leading the race, pit stops were terrible. And they finished third in the constructors.
I applied to the 'Strategist' vacancy at Ferrari.
I'm over qualified apparently as I could spell F1.
but do you know the difference between a 5 second penalty and a stop and go?
@@fireworx_925 I rely on the driver for this kind of technical advice 😎
@@UseYourNoodle Damn then you might have chance to get hired
I immediately went "they've thrown away Leclerc's race again" as soon as I saw the hards in the pits.
Matt I agree with you!! Charles needs to be more vocal like Hamilton, Vettel or Sainz at helping his team out a bit by letting them know if he can get tyres into temp range and his overall feel with the current tyres, rather than following them
leclerc seems like he puts too much faith in ferraris decisions. if they say "box for inters" when its dry and sunny leclerc wouldnt second guess them
@@didickcheeseburger I am afraid that "handling things'' that way is not tolerated at Ferrari. To many people high up in the hierarchy need to be kept happy. Ferrari is living in the past... They need a wake up call, but nobody speaks up. They desperately need a toto type of guy, but they won't hire him because of their ego. Lauda was right, as always: once the Italians reign at Ferrari it's downhill from there on....
@@fa7471987 I dont think so, I think if you have a strong personality (Like schumi) or adapt one, you can be a bit of a maverick and prove with your results that the team needs to listen to you when there are tricky situations.
@@fa7471987 i know. scuderia ferrari seems like its run by the mafia. theyve always had that vibe like "never go against the family". like when mattia binotto had his finger in leclercs face like he was telling him watch what you say even though the team kinda screwed him over
@@10sukhwinder But it wasn't just the maverick Schumacher was it? It was the dream team with Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and others.
The reason for this disaster was the rain. I was sure, as was anybody, that the rain was gonna hit within the first half an hour of the race. Ferrari put on the mediums to keep safe in case the rain was gonna be late. But then the rain went away and no more was going to come, so they panicked and thought they need to respond to undercuts, rather than protect tire life because near the end of the race it was likely going to rain anyway, so they didn't need the tire life cause they were going to switch to the inter. But the rain never happened enough to get wet.
Yeah but they should have extended that first run then to see if the rain would come after lap 20 then. Thats what i thought they were going to do personally
Yh, Ferrari was sure it was going to rain
It's incredible how every other team responds to change mostly fine. It's so uniquely Ferrari to bin it at the strategy level.
Really shows how it's a team sport and we know what part of the team is bringing the rest down.
I was at the track on Sunday, and it was raining the whole race (more like drippings) but you could feel drops of rain for the whole race, and that confused them enough to make another mistake on the race..
No, lol
FIA: The Andretti Motorsports team has asked what it takes to finish 4th and 6th in F1.
Mercedes: "Continue developing your car throughout the season"
Red Bull: "Hire two strong drivers"
McLaren: "LuL wut?"
Ferrari: "Easy, just start the race in 2nd and 3rd"
This comment is just... ✋😑👌 perfect.
That sad thing is when I was watching, I thought putting on the hard tyre was a good idea when they did it. You wanna know what was a worse idea that even I didn't think was good? Pitting Leclerc AGAIN!
In fairness leclerc pitting again wasn't entirely stupid.
It was clear Hamilton and sainz would overtake him and that he would end up just ahead of Perez if not behind if he stuck with hards.
The issue with the pitstop was that leclerc was piss poor on the softs going slower than sainz and gaining like 1 second in about 10 laps on a guy that was on old mediums
It cost him a place. Perez was behind but after the pit, he was ahead and he didn't catch up either
Pitting in for softs was a good call given what has happened because there were drops of rain near the end. The track is too cold for hard tyres and was getting cooler because of the rain. Getting softs on greatly reduces the risk of slipping, even when you do lose 20 seconds, which he probably would've anyway if he stayed on the hards.
Literally not mentioned here at all was the fact that Carlos actually did the M>M>S tire route that would've made more sense, yet was still passed on-track by Lewis on the exact same strategy. I can only guess this was all because the Fezzas were a lot harder on tire life than the other teams.
Correct. Sainz couldn't make the medium last long enough to make this strategy work and ended up spending way too much time on the soft for his level of tyre degradation. If not for the late VSC, he would've been caught by Perez, and possibly also by Leclerc on his improvised 3-stop-strategy.
Also Sainz was pitted to early on his mediums. Had to do 20 laps on USED softs . Lewis still had new softs..
The truth is that he didnt have enough pace there. Even Max had better pace when his 30 laps medium was worse than Sainz's 20 soft tyres. In Austria it has been shown that Ferrari is better than RB when it comes into tyres so tyres shouldnt be an issue
That's true, but Leclerc could have made it work, especially if Ferrari hadn't brought him in too early on his first stint. He was way faster that day, fastest of everyone.
I think sainz also had some slow pit stops.
So max was so rapid that he literally intimidated them into reacting to his stop and pace because they figured they wouldn’t make up the ground later in the race. Max was fastest in Q2, had bad luck keeping him off the front row & then won from 10th. Imagine if he’d qualified were he should have would have… easy dubs for max. It would have made the race anti climatic but still. The pace of Ferrari wasn’t the same as they didn’t adapt to well to the cold temps.
Because they wanted the 3 points in the social media team championship 😂
You gave the perfect answer. Well done 😉
they need to make jokes every race to win social media team championship
So it’s all Matt’s fault
Shit, this is the earliest winner of the internet for the day ever congratulations.
They have their priorities straight. XD
Charles needs to do stratergies himself, its getting ridiculous. Im not sure if they were even watching what Alpine and Haas' lap times.
Ferrari strategists saw the white tyres on the Haas and alpine and thought "I need to get me one pair of those"
Because if they did not have terrible strategy, they wouldn't be Ferrari.
The team of "aerodynamics is for those who can't build engines". They've always been really keen of selfsabotage.
Lol, it was my first F1 race ever. Even i could see that it was a panic move. You could early on see how bad the hard tiers worked for Haas. I respected at the very least the change over to soft at the end as a practical admission of error. Very confuced what Haas is even doing tho, i understand that they have bad cars, but hard tiers and just "chilling" at the back was just weird to see
Ferrari seem to let the race come to them a lot of the time, just reacting. Looking surprised, not being proactive which has obviously cost them loads.
Gotta say, I was expecting a 3 second long video of Matt yelling "There was absolutely no f**king reason!"
Good video idea at the end there @WTF1. "Fastest cars to not win the championship". McLaren 2012 comes to mind. Bad reliability, pitstops etc. Came 3rd in the end with the best car on most weekends.
We'll have to see what happens later on in the season because people forget how bad 2012 Mclaren were. What happened to Lewis then is essentially happening to Charles now. But the way Ferrari are going it looks like they are going to surpass Mclaren 😂
Bro this is ferrari if leclerc doesn't obey his team he will banned like seb and ferrari don't even care mercedes understands lewis and they have team spirit so they don't saying like you don't obey me i ban you instead they did what lewis's want and they win simple
Ferrari have to get rid of their ego and start to understand their driver and going to wind wdc and wcc🏎💨
Honestly the strategy should've been a simple soft, medium, soft/medium. It was the easiest call. But in typical ferrari style, they have to screw everything up
your way to present the things is really awesome, so much detailed and clean. its really very nice. greatman....
I do feel like Lecrec needs to take charge when its him on the track. He understands what the car is going through as the race is going down so it should fall to him to make final say about the pit strategies until Ferrari stop panicking.
I feel bad for LeClerc especially since Ferrari was his dream team along with his godfather Jules Bianchi.
1:05 I liked the little "editing hocus pocus" (sorry if my technical jargon is a bit out of everyone's league 😉) they used to switch from medium to the hard tyres.
What can I say I'm easily entertained, which is why I like Matt so much 😙
Charles Leclerc: "I can totally win a F1 Title with this car."
Ferrari Strategists: "...actually, we have a better strategy, we'll lose instead."
I swear, how is this the way Leclerc's title run seems to be decided? Do Ferrari even WANT to win anymore?
I can understand one strategy blunder on occasion, but this? This has gotten to comedic levels at how often this happens. Ferrari is trying to win a championship, while at the same time, slashing their own Tyres. Something needs to change, right now, otherwise, Ferrari will forever be known as the farce that it is, instead of the serious team that wants to win, maybe this is how Andretti Motorsport comes in, by replacing a joke of a Ferrari team.
Seriously, Charles would be LEADING the championship, or at the very least be arm's reach of the top spot, if it weren't for Ferrari's blunders.
Instead, we get this: Max Verstappen wins due to Ferrari's mechanical failures. Max Wins due to blown strategy call. Max has a problem! Charles finishes 4th due to poor strategy.
Getting pole doesn't do you much if you can't finish. And right now, I don't even think Ferrari WANT to finish.
I feel horrible for Leclerc, and Sainz. How can you seriously go for race wins, when you can't trust any strategy posed by Ferrari? They deserve better, and the fans deserve better!
Doesn't really change anything if he get the soft tyre, just check Sainz result without the hard tyre. The main problem they have only already used soft tyres to the race (if you rewatch the Qualifying Q3 first measured lap, you will see only the 2 Ferrari and Verstappen used the shiny new soft there, 7 cars just saving one set new soft to the race). So the final result was horrible, Leclerc wasn't even competitive against Perez in the last 16 laps, Perez was on 30 laps old medium, Leclerc was on 16 laps old softs, but he only halved the 6sec to 3sec in 14 laps (before VSC). 0,2sec per laps on newer tyre is sad, but if they are also had softness difference too, that is laughable.
I thought Binotto had already made clear this year that “2022 goal is not to win the title”, everyone thought he was just taking the pressure of the team, but my guy was god damn serious about that.
Well said.
I remember the radio call between them arguing hard or used softs (they had no fresh softs), at a stage softs wouldn't last until the end.
Had Leclerc extended the mediums until the softs could go a full last stint, no extra stop was needed.
That radio message made me think "OMG, no! How could they do or think that!?". And then they cut a good stint short to actually do that. Thats their B...no A...we go for D strategy.
The number of excuses Binotto & the strategists makes equals the number of titles they won’t get 🙃
Starting with mediums wasn't a bad idea: Ferrari was performing amazingly with those on, so extending 2 mediums stints and then mounting soft tyres at the end with a lighter car would have been a perfect strategy for them.
What tyres did they put after 1st pitstop?
@@tirumalad2479 Mediums again
It worked for Hamilton, he went from 7th to 2nd by the end of the race. Charles, starting in 3rd should have at the bare minimum scored a podium with the correct strategy.
An italian journalist counted how many points leclerc has lost by strategic and individual mistakes and it was 126 with counting the durability issues. Wow 🤩 that’s insane and think how many points red bull wouldn’t have if they hadn’t lost. I hate that it is a Frenchman ruining Ferraris races since they are an Italian team.
Toto Wolf explained this in his post-race interview: Ferrari didn't have a choice (!) on race day because the mistake happened on Friday. They had only hards and softs left and didn't allocate the correct number/types of tires. Of course, your point stands that they shouldn't have relied on hards based on the data. And yes, both Leclerc and Sainz need to start resisting bad calls!
Extend the medium stint, put on soft. It's literally that easy.
Seeing the data afterward, Ferrari is lacking some pace, red bull is actually quicker than them. Even them going their own strategy to medium medium soft, it’s not a guarantee win for them, but can at least fight for podium. It’s not a surprise for max win after seeing their data. All the causes of shit strategy is lacking pace, it’s just like a domino effect.
@@waichihong Where can you see race pace data?
Medium, medium, soft problem solved. Not medium, medium, hard, soft 😂😂. They put him the first time way, way too early for no reason at all.
To add to the Charles being thankful, every time Carlos has questioned the call from the team it aften turns positive for him
Ferrari did the same thing in AbuDhabi 2010, panicking to cover Vettel's pitstop when Alonso didn't need to pit. Alonso got stuck behind Petrov so Ferrari handed Vettel the championship. Ferrari strategy has been a shtshow since Ross Braun left.
Vettel was very grateful at that moment. Later in the team not so much... 😄
That was done to cover Webber’s pit stop whose stop only happened due to Webber’s right rear scraped a wall and was damaged. Ferrari panicked and thought Webber was doing an undercut but instead Ferrari seemingly and totally forgot about Vettel’s chances
@@chanchaniceman Thanks! I would love to watch that race again.
Tell me why (ain't nothing but a hard tyre)
Tell me why (ain't nothing but a mistake)
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
There is no way Ferrari will keep P2, Merc actually behaves like a team that knows how to win championships; good reliability, consistency, knowing when to take the risk and when to play it safe.
If the floor change after summer makes even the slightest difference, then that is it for Ferrari, they'll spend another decade without a title.
Ferrari is done for 2022 either way. Their only fight is for second place with Merc
First: you're correct. Ferrari at the very least should have put Sainz on softs and Lecelrc on Mediums. This means Leclerc would be covering lewis behind him and Sainz would be chasing Russell ahead. Both strategies could have worked to be honest.
Second: Ferrari focused too much on covering other teams. The first set of mediums didn't go long enough. Sainz came in one lap after George and still didn't get an undercut. Charles at least got an extra 5 out of the first set but then they got hardly anything on set 2. What a waste of a tire, there was still plenty of meat on the bone. Third, as Toto said, they lost it on Saturday by using misallocating the tires. Even if they had come onto softs, I don't think either driver had a new pair like Lewis (correct me if I'm wrong). Lastly, since Leclerc could have made it to the end on hards, why bother coming in to change back to softs? You've already paid the time to put the hards on, they can go to the end, at least make some people overtake you.
Did they still have medium tires to do a medium>medium>soft 2 stop strategy ?
According to an interview from Toto, they (ferrari) consumed the majority of mediums on friday.
So if that is the case, they already lost the weekend on friday.
Can't somebody look that up, what tires ferrari used throughout the weekend ?
Toto indeed told in a post race interview that Ferrari probably did use the mediums up either on friday or saturday so they didnt have options, only hards and softs left and it was too early for softs.
No they couldn t, it was hard or soft and they pitted way to urly to choose softs
You know both Ferraris ran two sets of mediums in the race, right? I'd say that's pretty conclusive proof they had enough for a strategy that required two sets of mediums. They were new sets too, in fact the only reason they couldn't switch to softs was that they panicked and stopped too early to try and prevent an undercut from Verstappen. The fact Lewis pulled off an M > M > S strategy very nicely, Max and Russel did S > M > M and even poor Carlos managed to stretch to an M > M > S strategy despite being stopped too early by Ferrari being spooked by undercuts and ruining his mid/late race pace shows conclusively that it was completely possible.
It's not just the 2nd pitstop. The 1st one was a rash decision as well pitting Sainz to overcut Russell. If they had done exactly what Hamilton did, the sensible strategy for a medium tyre start, they could easily maintain position behind Russell and use the softs at the end to easily overtake him, if they hadn't already.
Love how everyone is banging on about Ferrari putting the hards on when Mclaren made the same mistake 😂
And ruined danny rics race😢
shhhhhhhhh......... dont blow our cover, we have enough problems, allow it lmao
Because Ferrari are expected to perform at championship winning levels
mclaren werent racing for an EASY win.
because of ferrari consistantly make the wrong choices, and literally being in the fight for the championship. Mclaren fell off so no one cares about their strategy lmao
But they didn’t lose much because their direct competitor Alpine also did the same. Dany lost because he made a mistake.
Why?? Ask Rueda, he is the accountable for the strategies and he decides to ruin Leclerc races in Monaco, Silverstone and Budapest. But the championship is still long.
Just fire the strategist already. Had a lot of chances to proove but season after season the same mistakes showing up. If they wont make this step Im gonna officialy sign a petition and convince some partners(sponsors) to do the same! Is it really that hard?
Max only made the spin to reassure himself, that Charles was really driving on hard tires.
Apparently, our Italians ran out of tyres and in a panic mode set to massimo - they dived for hard set without thinking - they have a fetish for hard i guess - they had softs also available - ke sera sera ... what to say - rest is tragedy
I think Ferrari engineers just look what the computers say and when the circumstances change or the driver questions the strategy they panic, they really need to adapt and make fast decisions.
In favor of Ferrari it's true the weather played a role, both drivers looked uncomfortable on Sunday except Charles with the medium.
they didnt HAVE to pit him again on the softs at the end. When he got the hard tire somewhat working the pace was probably ok to keep the position. That was actually another ferrari mistake none talks about because the first one was so crucial :D
They put on the hard for the same reason they put on those masks 🤣
I don't think Ferrari is going to like you very much after this video. You know that they can do no wrong - only be wronged.
Ferrari didn't had a good strategy since 2018 where they had Sebastian as the head of strategy...as a driver.
I mean, Carlos did it just right on the last time Silverstone. Charles have to step up and be decisive himself when the Pit of Clowns just calls him for some cripple's diceroll of a strategy.
Because they are clowns and they are probably Red Bull fans in disguise lol
I'm now convinced that the whole Ferrari team is actually Toro Rosso in disguise
“Why did Ferrari put on the awful hard tyres?” … bc they’re Ferrari, videos done
Leclerc should 100% leave ferrari and go to Mercedes been saying it since 2019
in the pits they talked about women and the strategist got it wrong: hard for women and soft for cars.
Because they are Ferrari and messing up a win is TRADITIONS!
This shouldve been a 10 second video with Matt and a faceCam video saying ”I really do not know”
redbull and Mercedes take accountability for mistakes then work on making sure it doesn't happen again that's why they win championships. Ferrari is all politics and we can do no wrong
Charles needs to grow a pair and make his own decisions. What's the worse that can happen, win a race ?
I mean even Carlos has gone against the Team multiple times. Charles needs to grow a pair
For the love of God, get Mr Ross Brawn back Ferrari I beg you.
Because Ferrari. It’s quite simple really.
No I think they thought Charles could go to the end while others would have an extra and their tires would go off and Charles with the Ferrari could make up the time. But underestimated how slow the tires were. But hey Ferrari no. Grazie ragazzi pagliacci!!
It’s not over yet. Leclerc now needs to win 10 races in a row to win the champio-
I think if Charles wants to win a WDC he has to leave Ferrari, and replace either Hamilton at Mercedes or Alonso at Aston (if they manage to have a decent car in a couple of years) when they retire.
😂😂😂
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Exactly what I summarised from the consistent strategy f ups… they keep reacting to the others instead of just driving the most optimal strategy. This certainly wasn’t the first race this season they’ve ruined their race chasing undercuts and reactionary strategies
Chuck (lol) is like Lewis in 07 at the Chinese gp where he trusted in the team rather than himself....wore the tires so badly he had no grip at the pit entry....I think after that lewis decided to trust himself more in the feel of the car
I really think Ferrari is doing it just for the LOLs!
Max is so good now he’s 360 no-scoping the competition.
Another Ferrari classic another Matt heart break
Nope. You got it wrong too. It's so funny watching everyone criticise Ferrari, while showing they're too stupid to understand what went wrong. It's like watching amateur chess players criticise the tactics of a Grand Master; saying _"oh, he shouldn't have moved his bishop there, that lost him the game"_ when that move was the only option at that stage, and the wrong move occurred back when he advanced his knight. Ferrari's mistake was NOT starting on the Mediums, contrary to your ridiculous claim, because that could have worked; Hamilton started on Mediums and came second. As a matter of fact it was a really good idea to start on the Mediums, and it could have worked really well. Their mistake was changing from Medium to Medium. THAT was the tactical error, but you clearly don't comprehend that fact, or the reason why...
thank you for this
yes Medium to Soft to Medium
Hey Charles - looks like there’s an open seat at Alpine …
Non stop content from hard(tyre)working Matty
Because Binoto love the white colors...that's it 😡
Absolutely. 100% Charles needs to change teams in order to become world champion. He should be Hamilton's replacement as that will leave Mercedes with an extremely talented driver lineup with Russell and Leclerc.
Also Mercedes' reliability is bulletproof so in the course of a championship, that won't play a part in determining the standings in the end
To continue the meme ofc... its all about the PR and marketing🧠📈
nobody knows 🌟
Not to mention the 20+ laps on softs with Sainz
Because Micheal Masi is Ferraris new strategist.
Leclerc and Ferrari can be great of the right people are on the right spots in Maronello. Like in the 1997/2006 Schumacher era. 1996 was a building year. Lets hope 2022 is also a building year so the can go for the title in 2023.
Can't wait for the SPA Edition!
Ferrari seems to be using a computer simulation only for their strategy, ignoring all external and human factors. This is the only explanation for this disaster...
They have the best car, the best drivers and still they are struggling badly. I too believe that Mercedes will overtake them in the championship, unfortunately. Poor Leclerc...
To be fair, the mediums worked out as Charles was miles ahead, the problem was not maximizing the mediums and then switching to the softs or inters (if required) at the end. Of course using those awful hards was the biggest blunder of all
I love that WTF1 on the side of the early Ferrari cars 🤣
My guy needs to play My Team IRL... Leclerc straight up needs to say "SHUT UP JEFF! I GOT THIS!"
I think that all the free cases of Red Bull being delivered to the Ferrari strategy team quarters might give us a clue.
Are you saying they were too high on sugar and caffeine to think straight? :D
side note: I LOVED the porpoising effect on drivers helmet
The first 3 races of the season, I was like, man, ferrari has got it this season...
Well, my thought aged well.
You out of all channels I expected to have an PIA update... Alpine or no Alpine. This youngster needs an seat