Mac User Installs Arch Linux for First Time

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2023
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  • @SAMTIME
    @SAMTIME  10 месяцев назад +90

    Big thanks to Incogni for sponsoring this adventure into Arch, btw!
    The first 100 people to use code SAMTIME with the link below will get 60% off Incogni: incogni.com/samtime

    • @Salt_and_Peroxide
      @Salt_and_Peroxide 10 месяцев назад +2

      hey man love your videos great channel been watching you for 5 years and its onlygetting better

    • @G0RSHK0V
      @G0RSHK0V 10 месяцев назад

      True blackberry user doesn't need incogni)

    • @zoiuduu
      @zoiuduu 10 месяцев назад +3

      how can you make a comment 5 days ago, if the video was released today? is this some arch linux wizardry?

    • @Modono...
      @Modono... 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@zoiuduu he uploaded the video 5 days ago and made it that it will be visible on 28 august 2023

    • @zoiuduu
      @zoiuduu 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Modono... sounds like arch linux wizardry to me

  • @lasue7244
    @lasue7244 10 месяцев назад +943

    It was pretty funny video. On a serious note if anyone wants to actually try Linux, don’t be take this as your expected experience. Sam is running Asahi Linux which is in alpha. It’s still insanely impressive because Asahi team had to reverse engineer all drivers for M1 Mac. Also final Asahi won’t be Arch based but will be based on fedora, which is a lot more friendly.

    • @kazzxtrismus
      @kazzxtrismus 10 месяцев назад +61

      noobs will see very little difference....this will mirror their experience even if they can get it installed.
      dear noobs.....
      1. use a live USB to try linux out....mint fedora ubuntu debian etc doesnt matter....but not arch
      2. dual boot will be a nightmare for you especially if you dont know how linux will name your current drives and partitions etc
      (cuz it wont be C:...itll be "sda" "sdb")....(also NOTHING of any kind will be named in an expected way)
      3. wifi may not work out of the box....get a cat6 cable ready (thisll be true for about 1/4 of you)
      4. theres a thousand places to find software...the distro store will have about 5% of whats available
      5. there is no downloading a zip and clicking install.exe with linux...
      the variations in the answer of "how to do it then?" are almost countless...
      6. DO NOT blindly cut and paste teminal/command line commands from the internet
      yes i know thatll be about 80% of the "help" you get/find...half of it is old outdated or for another version of linux at best wont work...at worst will break your machine.
      7. being a super/power user for windows will not help you at all...
      8. a whole bunch of your peripherals will not work....video capture cards audio interfaces etc
      9. you will not pickup/learn linux in a year...let alone the 1-2 months you expect.
      10. linux will not listen to your complaints and will actively and intentionally NOT improve for noobs.

    • @rohitk8797
      @rohitk8797 10 месяцев назад +7

      Sooner or later Fedora will be closed source…

    • @daimarstein
      @daimarstein 10 месяцев назад +59

      @@rohitk8797 imagine lying on the internet... *tsc tsc* shame you young one

    • @cartanfan-youtube
      @cartanfan-youtube 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@kazzxtrismusyou sound like Reddit goyslop

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 10 месяцев назад +11

      It's actually a very typical linux experience. Take everything in this video to be generalizable

  • @VelvetelToo
    @VelvetelToo 9 месяцев назад +216

    “The arch Linux website is the most Linux website I’ve ever seen” just wait until he finds the gentoo wiki

    • @smolbirb4
      @smolbirb4 9 месяцев назад

      The Gentoo wiki is so goddamn good, 100x better than arch’s imo, both are great but I I find Gentoo’s much easier to navigate and just use.
      It also goes into much more detail.
      Definitely one of my most visited sites

    • @waynefong5960
      @waynefong5960 3 месяца назад +5

      both are great in my opinion

    • @jackbotman
      @jackbotman Месяц назад

      @@waynefong5960 They work and that's all that matters

    • @FahimHoq
      @FahimHoq Месяц назад +2

      Or Linux from scratch 😂

    • @MisterZig0
      @MisterZig0 15 дней назад

      @@FahimHoq That's just a book…

  • @moose43h
    @moose43h 10 месяцев назад +89

    Running Linux literally on the least supported device

    • @Captain_Shadow10
      @Captain_Shadow10 Месяц назад +9

      With an indev build

    • @saidtorres3
      @saidtorres3 Месяц назад

      Bet windows can run on it flawlessly.

    • @Captain_Shadow10
      @Captain_Shadow10 Месяц назад +1

      @@saidtorres3 unlikley, well mabye, but it couldn't run x64 or x86 based apps iirc, due to it being an arm system and not a x64 system

    • @ThejaKarnati
      @ThejaKarnati Месяц назад +1

      The most Linux thing anyone can do

    • @frostiefops
      @frostiefops 19 дней назад +1

      @@saidtorres3 windows can't run natively on apple's modification of ARM - the asahi team literally had to reverse engineer the architecture (and most likely write drivers for it) so it's impressive linux runs on it at all

  • @deadeye1652
    @deadeye1652 10 месяцев назад +216

    Asahi linux is experimental distro which they built with reverse-engineering the m1 architecture. it's pretty impressive what they accomplished and its still in experimental state for dev use only. obviously most features won't work.

  • @truthmatters7573
    @truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад +509

    Audio will be enabled once it is guaranteed to work flawlessly. The speakers are one of the few components that you can actually physically damage if a bug causes the wrong signal to be sent to the speakers. If you crash your computer that's one thing, but blowing out your speakers will mean you have to get a repair done, and we all know how bad apple is with repair 😜

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 10 месяцев назад +70

      especially when they discover your put Linux on it lol

    • @ThePlacehole
      @ThePlacehole 10 месяцев назад +14

      "Once it works under Linux" should be the new "when pigs fly..."
      You still get painful headphone-destroying POP every time you connect the jack on almost every device. Well worth the price though...

    • @maxpoulin64
      @maxpoulin64 10 месяцев назад +22

      The audio driver is actually progressing pretty well, they think they can manage to make it sound a bit cleaner than Apple too.
      Asahi has a pretty decent amount of funding and on track to being one of the best supported Macs on Linux. It's going extremely fast. The fact that we got fully compliant GLES 3.1 already is impressive.

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 10 месяцев назад +9

      2023 will be the year of Linux on Macs! Remind me every year from now until I die to update this

    • @_thresh_
      @_thresh_ 10 месяцев назад +13

      apple be like: YoU PuT LiNuX On iT NoW ItS BeYoNd rEpAiR ThAt wIlL Be 100000 dOlLaRs fOr hArMiNg oUr bRaNd

  • @biscotty6669
    @biscotty6669 10 месяцев назад +373

    "Tell me everything I'm doing wrong.": Installing Arch. Everything else wrong is a logical consequence.

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 10 месяцев назад +30

      I mean there were a lot of contributors, but yeah. Hell even I don't bother to use native arch, I just use a derivative that pulls from the native arch repos. Using alpha asahi/arch on an m1 and minimal linux experience is basically asking for trouble.

    • @biscotty6669
      @biscotty6669 10 месяцев назад

      @@robonator2945 Arch is good for learning how to fix things when they break, and everyone loves the AUR repo. In a world of distrobox, etc. you can always use an AUR package if you really need to, which most people won't. And I prefer not having to fix things. (BTW NixOS actually has a larger repository.)

    • @romantechplus
      @romantechplus 10 месяцев назад +7

      As a Manjaro user I... yeah... that's about right tbh

    • @TrevelyanOO6
      @TrevelyanOO6 10 месяцев назад +8

      I assume it was an AppleSilicon mac, Ashahi linux was his only real option and it’s currently based on arch.
      So assuming your premise, he was doomed before even starting.

    • @tangledwires485
      @tangledwires485 6 месяцев назад +4

      Arch (btw) user here...yeah you're right

  • @oussama7132
    @oussama7132 10 месяцев назад +28

    the reason you had a terrible experience is that you didn't install [Insert linux distro here]

    • @somnia3423
      @somnia3423 10 месяцев назад +2

      but he didnt had a terrible experience did he? arch did just work

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@somnia3423 Most people here don't realize that Asahi is still not ready. So they are talking about issues like the audio.

    • @jimmyneutron129
      @jimmyneutron129 10 месяцев назад +3

      The big reason is that Asahi is alpha, so it's a bit like if I install a Windows developer version and blame Windows for not working. If people tell you to use alpha state software, they are dumb

  • @MasterGeekMX
    @MasterGeekMX 10 месяцев назад +98

    Asahi isn't linux "made easy" for the mac. Is a massive project that takes linux and adapts it to run on the new M-series macs, as they not only use ARM CPU's (unlike most of computers out there that use x86 CPU's), but they have custom graphics and other stuff that they need to reverse engineer as there is no documentation or anything about them.
    It initally used Arch as their base, but recently they made a partnership with Fedora to use them as base instead.

    • @user-nl7hr1ny5m
      @user-nl7hr1ny5m 10 месяцев назад +1

      may I ask the recommended linux to install on m2?

    • @MasterGeekMX
      @MasterGeekMX 10 месяцев назад

      @@user-nl7hr1ny5m Asahi. Currently there is no other option.

    • @RMED24
      @RMED24 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-nl7hr1ny5masahi Linux or the fedora asahi spin

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 4 месяца назад

      ​@@user-nl7hr1ny5mThere is none

    • @CapCreeperGR_Main
      @CapCreeperGR_Main 3 месяца назад

      @@user-nl7hr1ny5m Do not. None of it is good at the moment and probably won't be for at least another 3-4 years. If you are a beginner just stay away from Linux on any arm mac. If you have an older intel mac you can try any Linux Distribution you find online. Personally I recommend Linux Mint. It's easy to use, fast and looks good but virtually anything will work. JUST do not try arch or anything based on it. Arch is a Linux distribution created for experienced users that want to have control over every simple thing on their system

  • @CG_Hali
    @CG_Hali 10 месяцев назад +156

    Sam proving that though he's only got one ball now, he still dares the world like he's got 2 humongous ones!

    • @asbeltrion
      @asbeltrion 10 месяцев назад +5

      What was that about a ball?

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@asbeltrionhe had testicular cancer a few years ago. Had to get rid of one of his boys.

    • @pcmark-nl
      @pcmark-nl 10 месяцев назад +5

      Uniballers unite! I am a lefty, Sam!

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 10 месяцев назад

      @@pcmark-nl now kith

    • @lil_brumski
      @lil_brumski 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@markm0000ouch!

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah 10 месяцев назад +246

    Who in the right mind suggests Arch + KDE to a macOS user... I feel sorry for everyone who watches this video and might think "wow, Linux looks as ugly and obtuse as I've always imagined it to be" and frankly, rightfully so. Linux doesn't have to be hard! Something like Fedora or Debian + GNOME can sit much better on the hands of a macOS user, much better and familiar UI/UX experience.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 10 месяцев назад +72

      even worse when you consider that he's using a VERY early alpha version of linux for M1 mac since Apple document fuck all

    • @smishyt
      @smishyt 10 месяцев назад +39

      GNOME is the one that gives bad impression of Linux.

    • @Ajay-pf6bv
      @Ajay-pf6bv 10 месяцев назад +16

      In fact, as an almost 20 years Mac user I switched 3 years ago from MacOS to ArchLinux with KDE Plasma but on x86. Tried Tiling Window Managers and Gnome with tiling functionality in between and now I'm using the best of all worlds in Plasma. Mac desktop layout, a start menu like in Windows, virtual desktops and auto-tiling as you would use it in a TWM. One of the best decisions in my life.

    • @maxpoulin64
      @maxpoulin64 10 месяцев назад +28

      ​@@smishytGNOME is a bad choice for Windows users, but for Mac users it's actually fairly similar to the Mac workflow and a good choice. They're already used to needing to use exposé, the lack of taskbar, oversimplified menus, limited options and choices.

    • @MrAshCreates
      @MrAshCreates 10 месяцев назад +3

      Tbf you can fully customize kde to look like a mac and that’s what mine looks like

  • @APPLP1E
    @APPLP1E 10 месяцев назад +7

    Debian user here, probably the worst thing to install Linux on is a Mac. Like, seriously.

  • @ekim4926
    @ekim4926 8 месяцев назад +40

    > Install a developing version of an unstable distro on unsupported hardware
    > “WhY dIdN’t StUfF wOrK oUt Of ThE bOx?”

    • @Brahvim
      @Brahvim 10 дней назад +1

      Surprised about *_how much_* actually worked.

  • @solidhyrax
    @solidhyrax 10 месяцев назад +16

    You're using Asahi Linux which is a development distro still not ready for shipping. If you actually want a working setup you ideally don't use an apple product. Asahi isn't Arch btw.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 10 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't say that. Asahi is the hardware drivers and all needed to run Linux on macs. The distribution is still Arch. So yes, it's still arch but with more pain, cus of lacking hardware support.

    • @vlad165
      @vlad165 8 месяцев назад

      @@monochrome_linuxI believe now Asahi is based on Fedora. But at the moment when this video was recorded it was still Arch

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@monochrome_linuxWell... He wasn't stuck on a CLI trying to partition his disks before the install. So I would agree that Asahi is not Arch já hahahaha. Its more a Manjaro, they give you a "ready to use" KDE environment.

  • @unicodefox
    @unicodefox 10 месяцев назад +12

    1:03 - Asahi Linux isn't an easier way to install Arch Linux. Its a project for making Linux run on M1. While there is a distro called Asahi Linux that you can install on your machine today, in the future, the goal is for there to be no such thing as Asahi Linux you install, you just install Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc for M1 which includes all the M1 drivers and special sauces
    4:16 - Audio through the internal speakers would be possible to enable today if they wanted to - however, they still haven't worked out all the proper safeties and tunings to prevent your speakers from blowing up. Apparently, this contains a lot of very complex math (like having to simulate the temperature of the speakers).
    The Asahi developers in general are very focused on doing things *right* before doing it fast.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      The audio is now fixed on fedora ;)

  • @TheZedrem
    @TheZedrem 10 месяцев назад +73

    Fun fact: website (the safari browser engine that the chrome one is also based on) is based on KHTML, a browser engine made by KDE.
    So basically, safari is a Linux
    /s

    • @KanadGodse
      @KanadGodse 10 месяцев назад +11

      WebKit*

    • @nabsi2321
      @nabsi2321 10 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah Safari is based on WebKit that is developed by Apple, but you know the reasons the UserAgent in browsers say something like "Safari 1.0 (KHTML; Like Gecko)" something along those lines. Is due to the reason the websites use the UserAgent to disable and enable certain features, and for example if web browser supported all Gecko and KHTML features but the actual browser lacked some, it could use these variants instead indicating it has support for it. It's essentially used to indicate whenever browser supports certain HTML/CSS/JavaScript features.
      edit: But originally yeah it was based on KHTML, but the original code is probably long gone. And on the other hand MacOS itself is Unix, very close to Linux in terms of architecture and API.

    • @electricalbatross5797
      @electricalbatross5797 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@nabsi2321 nerd

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@electricalbatross5797Ur boring

    • @aqua-bery
      @aqua-bery 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@nabsi2321that's cool! Thanks for the info :)

  • @Spencer-wc6ew
    @Spencer-wc6ew 10 месяцев назад +35

    The Arch wiki used to have a setup page that was way friendlier to beginners.
    But it violated the wiki's rule of "assume people read every page you link to and repeat no info"

    • @Voidkitty_
      @Voidkitty_ 10 месяцев назад +4

      it takes a while to figure out how to RTFM but once you learn, you are invincible and also a god (I use arch btw)

    • @albatross7
      @albatross7 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂 those basement dwellers need to touch grass sometimes to get a grasp of real world

    • @wwtapsable
      @wwtapsable 5 месяцев назад

      regular arch actually made an install script for stupid people, just boot up run the script and arch is automagically installed. I don't like it, ever since that, support forums have been getting a lot more traffic from stupid people who should be using ubuntu instead. at least gentoo is still safe for now

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      Imagine having to update that page every time another thing change hahaha

  • @Hatchray
    @Hatchray 10 месяцев назад +16

    Arch users are screaming at their screens in rage watching this......... I love it.

    • @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
      @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT 10 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah I don’t understand why my fellow arch btw users get so mad about this video, i think it was really funny

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 10 месяцев назад +1

      At this point it's just a comedy show 😂 like LTT's videos

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@monochrome_linux actually this is a more honest review than LTT's video. If Linus got his hands on this installation he might have messed up the one liner to get discover working and then borked his system somehow.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      Honestly I laughted my ass out. I think Arch users don't want other people using their system so they don't care much about those things...
      I use Arch btw. Im legally bound to write that sentence hahahahahahhahahaha

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@randomness0I don't think Linus would get out of the boot CD terminal... Asking Linus to install Arch is like asking your grandmother to install Windows. She makes a hell of a good cookie, but she cannot format your laptop.

  • @PavakPaul
    @PavakPaul 10 месяцев назад +11

    As a Linux user running Arch on desktop and Ubuntu on laptop, I had fun watching this video.

  • @itismezed
    @itismezed 10 месяцев назад +11

    “Why isn’t the alpha software not 100% functional?” - the entire video

  • @g4mingaz
    @g4mingaz 10 месяцев назад +83

    Please do a part two. This was super fun to watch!

    • @truthmatters7573
      @truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад +6

      possibly with fedora asahi

    • @senorbinario2855
      @senorbinario2855 10 месяцев назад +1

      I agree

    • @Iisakkiik
      @Iisakkiik 10 месяцев назад +5

      Part 2 with fedora or something else with gnome desktop.

    • @b4nes
      @b4nes 10 месяцев назад +1

      part two is he got the macos back, that's why this video is uploaded

    • @Jokamutta
      @Jokamutta 10 месяцев назад

      @@truthmatters7573Is the Japanise Asahi beer named after that? :D

  • @edwardecl
    @edwardecl 10 месяцев назад +75

    Now try Windows on your M1 mac...
    The fact that it works at all is impressive considering people had to reverse engineer the hardware drivers, also it's "alpha".

    • @clockblower6414
      @clockblower6414 10 месяцев назад +23

      Nah that's disgusting lol! he fixed his hardware by installing Linux best not screw it up by installing spyware on it

    • @radio_marco
      @radio_marco 10 месяцев назад +2

      Oh dear, oh dear... This sounds fun. I don't have a mac though.

    • @XeZrunner
      @XeZrunner 10 месяцев назад +3

      Given that it can only be virtualized for now, it would pretty much be a "one-click" install in Parallels.
      I do wonder if it ever will be able to install on bare metal though.

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@XeZrunner uh, does anyone want to tell them?

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@XeZrunnerVMs doesn't count... I wanna see he trying to install on bare metal hahahahahahahhaha.
      And your "for now" is pretty optimistic hahahahahahahhaha

  • @jubinthomas5204
    @jubinthomas5204 10 месяцев назад +7

    dude u are gold..its sad to see you are not getting any new followers..cheers mate

  • @arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088
    @arrayindexoutofboundsexcep1088 3 месяца назад +1

    Installing Arch and expecting that everything works is like saying "I buy a house" and just buy the bricks and then complain that the kitchen stove doesn't work properly.

  • @athirsonsilva3808
    @athirsonsilva3808 10 месяцев назад +28

    I would suggest trying out Gnome for your Desktop Environments as it is similar to MacOS in some aspects, more than KDE at least, and a Distro like PopOS, Mint or even Ubuntu, that aren't as bare-bones as the one you installed (Asahi isn't Arch btw).

    • @someguy9175
      @someguy9175 10 месяцев назад +17

      also don't run linux on a m1 mac

    • @myles124
      @myles124 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@someguy9175Asahi Linux is great on the M1

    • @athirsonsilva3808
      @athirsonsilva3808 10 месяцев назад

      @@someguy9175 Yeah, if you want to just use Linux why bother buying an overprinced product to install it on.

    • @Untitled_Pribor
      @Untitled_Pribor 10 месяцев назад

      @@someguy9175that’s probably the best advice. Even on later intel macs linux isn’t that great. On my MacBook (MacBookPro14,2) the wifi barely works, speakers don’t work and for whatever reason i can’t mount usb drives. Fortunately i have a better computer that runs linux perfectly

    • @smishyt
      @smishyt 10 месяцев назад +2

      Hell no. GNOME runs so much worse on M1 Mac. Stay with Plasma.

  • @archux_
    @archux_ 10 месяцев назад +5

    sam now will use the phrase "i use arch btw"

  • @MrMoto655
    @MrMoto655 6 месяцев назад +4

    As an arch user, this made me laugh harder than it should've because it is relatable.

  • @misha54321
    @misha54321 10 месяцев назад +11

    As an Arch Linux user, this was quite painful to watch (but quite entertaining). By the way, pacman is the tool used to install apps (the PACkage MANager). Also, Linux is not normally as painful as this. If you use a beginner friendly distro (e.g. Linux Mint) on an x86 machine it will be much easier to use. It is, however, quite difficult to run Linux on Apple Silicon Macs due to the ARM architecture so it's probably better to stick with MacOS (or install Linux in a virtual machine).

    • @MarcRitzMD
      @MarcRitzMD 10 месяцев назад

      None of the problems shown in the video were related to ARM

    • @misha54321
      @misha54321 10 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@MarcRitzMDNot directly, but the ARM architecture is the main reason why it is so difficult to get Linux working well on Apple silicon chips since ARM chips differ significantly from one another. It was much easier to run Linux on Intel Macs.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 10 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@MarcRitzMDnot ARM specifically, it's due to Apple Silicon, and other hardware that is there on the Mac, i have a modern Intel MacBook and Linux is still quite finicky on it due to lack of drivers and such.
      In simple terms, apple users more custom made hardware which have little to no drivers on linux, so unless people reverse engineer everything and make their own drivers, you're screwed.

    • @monochrome_linux
      @monochrome_linux 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@misha54321you can run linux on ARM just fine, brother.

    • @catchnkill
      @catchnkill 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@misha54321 It is not ARM. Linux runs on ARM for many years and has been fine. It is Apple's proprietary hardware which there is no Linux drivers available. Apple also does not provide any documentation for developers to write drivers. Apple is a close ecology and they do not want other people to use their hardware in alternate way.

  • @superhero5390
    @superhero5390 6 месяцев назад +6

    Most intelligent mac user😂

  • @Hardcore_Remixer
    @Hardcore_Remixer 10 месяцев назад +9

    Bruh, arch linux is a distro with a community that will 95% tell you to read the arch wiki when you ask for advice.
    It is specifically made so you use the command line and struggle to learn stuff as you use it.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 10 месяцев назад +5

      95% of the issue are documented in the Arch wiki to the point that others distro user use the arch wiki. Also i've used Arch my machines for the last 5 years and the only moment i needed the command line is when i dev something and the tools are CLI.

    • @kazzxtrismus
      @kazzxtrismus 10 месяцев назад +1

      gotta problem?... im here to help!...here's 5hrs of reading!...good luck

    • @somnia3423
      @somnia3423 10 месяцев назад +3

      yeah i hate when there is an error and i can just look it up to solve it, i wish there wasnt an arch wiki!!! why should we be able to look stuff up omg

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      The arch wiki is so good that other distro users use it as reference...
      Its like the bible of Linux. Or even better, the dictionary of Linux. It has everything. And I mean EVERYTHING.

    • @rrnonya5472
      @rrnonya5472 17 дней назад

      Basically work 50+ hours a week, BUT spend your entire weekend troubleshooting weird sheet because Arch... or to interpret "reasons..." I use Linux Mint because ... I have a life... Using Arch isn't the flex that most "Archies" think it is...

  • @truthmatters7573
    @truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад +9

    Nice to see you living life on the wild side! You can also try Fedora Asahi next time :)

  • @fptbb
    @fptbb 5 месяцев назад +1

    How to try linux: Start not using a Mac machine for that...

  • @LuealEythernddare
    @LuealEythernddare 10 месяцев назад +5

    There is a qt5 dependency you need to install the dependencies to get discover to work. It is pretty simple to add, it’s due to arch being very barebones, literally all that’s installed is what you request to be installed.

    • @albatross7
      @albatross7 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah yeah that’s how people are supposed to use their computers, sure

    • @LuealEythernddare
      @LuealEythernddare 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@albatross7 well arch and kde are both primarily meant moreso for power users. People who already know what they’re doing. For someone who isn’t already familiar with Linux I’d say use Ubuntu, Linux mint, or pop os, either gnome or cinnamon for the desktop environment, you’ll immediately be able to get around the os as naturally as if you were just using windows or macOS.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@albatross7Being honest. People should not use Arch as their first contact with Linux...
      You wouldn't make your first computer drawing on Photoshop, you would start with Paint...

  • @zorromci
    @zorromci 10 месяцев назад +9

    Really enjoying this channel (subscriber since the Linus Tech Tips apology), hopefully it beats the algorithm soon!!

    • @mitchmarq428
      @mitchmarq428 10 месяцев назад +1

      He's been doing this for years, I wouldn't count on it

  • @davey820051
    @davey820051 10 месяцев назад +2

    Even Sam's advert reads are funny ("...get ahold of your privates and try 'em out!")

    • @IcHamza
      @IcHamza 10 месяцев назад

      his KiTi video is one of the best

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti 10 месяцев назад +4

    I've never tried using Linux on a Mac but have had excellent luck with it on ~wintel~ machines. Mostly old Atom netbooks, and a few P4 era things. I haven't tried Arch though, pretty much just Ubuntu based things, Mint mostly.

  • @KuraV12
    @KuraV12 10 месяцев назад +5

    Sam literally read my mind, i just installed arch on my intel macbook manually btw

  • @Joe_Brig
    @Joe_Brig 10 месяцев назад +2

    2023 is the Year of the Linux Desktop!

    • @IcHamza
      @IcHamza 10 месяцев назад

      i read that 2000 will be when i installed red hat in 1999

  • @slapout7
    @slapout7 10 месяцев назад +22

    We need a whole series of videos with him trying different operating systems and distros

    • @IvoPavlik
      @IvoPavlik 5 месяцев назад

      Sounds like fun 🙂

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      But he is on a Mac. Dunno how feasable it would be (not ironically).

  • @perrypereyra6671
    @perrypereyra6671 10 месяцев назад +16

    just finished watching this, the most laugh I've ever had this month. good job Sam!!!

  • @AyaWetts
    @AyaWetts 10 месяцев назад +2

    You installed Asahi, which is based off Arch. Its not Arch... its also very experimental and incomplete work in progress and known to have many issues on Apple silicon.

  • @alfredolouro3773
    @alfredolouro3773 10 месяцев назад +21

    I've been running Linux Mint on my Macbook and my Imac for years, and it works beautifully. If it was for Apple I wouldn't be able to do anything with them because the last version of MacOS they could handle wasn't supported any more.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      Intel macs are far easier to install Linux because they are basically PCs with MacOS hahahaha

  • @brazenbunnies
    @brazenbunnies 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sam should be nicer to his niece when she wants him to buy Girl Scout Cookies.

  • @fabiandrinksmilk6205
    @fabiandrinksmilk6205 5 месяцев назад +1

    He tried Linux on possibly the worst laptop to install it on. It's actually a miracle that it works on Apple Silicon at all since they have to reverse engineer all drivers and work around Apple's usual shenanigans.

  • @michaelwright2986
    @michaelwright2986 10 месяцев назад +1

    I should have made a video about my attempt to do stuff with a Mac. I really liked OS X in the days of the big cats, so I thought a job I needed doing would be easier on an old MacBook. I then discovered that to do a few not-really-nerdy-at-all things, I had to hold down a three-key chord while clicking on a menu item. Talk about secret handshakes. So then I tried a simple PIP A: = C:*.*, and all that happened was that I invoked the BSD d(a)emon. Do you need some kind of brain surgery to use modern MacOS?

  • @RyeMoes
    @RyeMoes 10 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing video. More tech reviews for alpha products please, love it. Haha

  • @MriA653
    @MriA653 Месяц назад

    it comes with kde plasma pre installed?

  • @DashieTM
    @DashieTM 10 месяцев назад +3

    You tried a work in progress distribution of linux that is specifically aimed at apple M1, this means there are things that are not done yet, like speakers, microphones, camera and touchID.
    Perhaps if ypu check back on this in a year or so, then it might all work, who knows.
    Otherwise on regular laptops and desktops, basic things such as audio should work like usual.
    I would say good video, funny ofc, but please keep in mind that you might also give a wrong view of linux as a whole by using something that is not marked as stable in any way by the developers.

  • @nickn1991
    @nickn1991 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don't know why I need to install Linux on my MacBook. Linux is by no means a user-friendly operating system. The fact of installing Linux on a MacBook is to forget that the advantage of a Mac is that it can be easily used as a Unix system with a graphical user interface. Plus, instead of going through the trouble of installing Linux on your MacBook, it's less expensive or time-consuming to buy and install another FreeDOS laptop.

  • @robertrodriguez1343
    @robertrodriguez1343 5 месяцев назад

    every time i setup a 'wayland' session, i feel the same way , man.

  • @bummers
    @bummers 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the comedy. Also, in other news, Sam don't usually swim, but when he does, he goes to the Mariana Trench.

  • @johnmiller0000
    @johnmiller0000 21 день назад

    Why is Recorder not ReKorder?
    I've dipped my toes into the Linux world many times over the years (mainly for doing Raspberry Pi stuff) and everytime I want to stick my head in a blender.

  • @repairstudio4940
    @repairstudio4940 10 месяцев назад +1

    Haha liked and subbed....been working with Arch myself. Haha love this. ❤

  • @SoldMoonDoggie
    @SoldMoonDoggie Месяц назад

    I thought this was a skit but no, bro really went and did the thing.

  • @JohnCrawford1979
    @JohnCrawford1979 3 месяца назад +1

    Arch also has a repository called the AUR. Though helps if you know what you're searching for.

  • @arranmc182
    @arranmc182 10 месяцев назад +1

    Stupidly the speakers are run via the security chips on the Mac so they need to break the security some how to get internal speakers work

  • @ttoommxxmmoott
    @ttoommxxmmoott 10 месяцев назад +2

    people make funny of how "clumsy" Linux installation is.. but has anyone ever tried installing Mac on a normal computer? It's the hardest thing ever lol

    • @stanb1455
      @stanb1455 10 месяцев назад

      lmao building a hackintosh is nothing like arch on m1 through the asahi linux project

    • @ttoommxxmmoott
      @ttoommxxmmoott 10 месяцев назад

      @@stanb1455 making an hackintosh on a random computer and finding all the needed drivers can be actually much harder..

  • @boredhuman9289
    @boredhuman9289 10 месяцев назад +1

    This video is a true delight! I enjoyed every second of it (as a Linux user).

  • @drewzero1
    @drewzero1 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've been using Linux over 15 years and "love-hate relationship" doesn't even begin to cover it!

  • @baeballeverwizard
    @baeballeverwizard 10 месяцев назад +10

    Uses Linux on an M1 and blames Linux for the issues...
    The issue is the hardware, not the software.

    • @jimmyneutron129
      @jimmyneutron129 10 месяцев назад +2

      The issue is that Asahi Linux is in alpha, so it is not expected to fully work

    • @lumpython5351
      @lumpython5351 10 месяцев назад

      How can you blame Apple while Apple hasn't yet put any restrictions on the M1 platform? Expect apple to support Linux? Why Apple has obligations to do that?

    • @stanb1455
      @stanb1455 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@lumpython5351 apple documents nothing about their hardware, making drivers and what not more difficult

  • @marcusjohansson668
    @marcusjohansson668 10 месяцев назад +6

    I'm assuming most is a joke because you simply can't be that dumb to say "how about a fix it button" when you previously stated that you are AWARE that this is one of the most complicated operating systems in existence.
    Also, EXTREMELY strange that you very clearly intentionally avoided the TOP SETTING in KDE, themes. Is this sneak anti-propaganda towards linux?
    The whole video is very strange.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 10 месяцев назад

      i know right ?

  • @ShinyTechThings
    @ShinyTechThings 10 месяцев назад +3

    For those who don't have cats how could they do this? 🤦‍♂🤣

  • @Lerothas
    @Lerothas 10 месяцев назад +1

    Using Asahi Linux with Arch Linux base with an Apple-Silicon-Mac is like participating with a Bobbycar at a military exercise. Unless you're really skilled you will fail. Using Linux+KDE with a device from Tuxedo Computers, Slimbook, System76 or StarLabs would have been a really nice experience.

  • @sleidardicumaris
    @sleidardicumaris 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is the funniest thing i've seen in a while! Keep it up Sam!

  • @MauFalcon
    @MauFalcon 10 месяцев назад +2

    Finished watching the video and still can’t stop laughing 😂 - great video

  • @PCsSabotage
    @PCsSabotage 10 месяцев назад

    Why bro at the ad was trying to be like Saul Goodman

  • @YourLocalZombie
    @YourLocalZombie 5 месяцев назад

    I tried ubuntu on my 2017 iMac. everything was smoth sailing until a sound played. everything stuttered. When I looked online I found a forum post from the developers saying they were aware of the issue with my specific model and they were working on a fix. That post was 4 years old with no update. Uninstalled.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад +1

      Honestly most intel macs are basically PCs with MacOS. But they have some weird quirks like the T2 chip that someone has to make workarounds. If nobody is interested in doing that happens... More exotic is the hardware less chances you have to work, thats the reality unfortunately.
      There's no trillion dollar company behind the software you're using

  • @da_pwo
    @da_pwo 9 месяцев назад +2

    Mac user gets suprised that Linux can run RUclips

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 26 дней назад +1

      Imagine telling a mac guy he can runs windows programs on linux installed on a mac...
      (Not yet, but we are getting closer and closer)

    • @da_pwo
      @da_pwo 25 дней назад

      @@no_name4796 well maybe for intel macs, but not silicon ones without a TON of emulation

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 25 дней назад

      @@da_pwo i mean, someone was able to make windows only games playble on linux (wine-proton), so i don't see it as impossible to do something similar but with mac hardware
      Imagine how crazy it would be to play windows game on linux on a mac lol

  • @BNBPhotofr
    @BNBPhotofr 10 месяцев назад +2

    If you must use Arch, I highly suggest Garuda Linux, which is probably the simplest Arch version I have tried.

  • @aleksandari.7834
    @aleksandari.7834 День назад

    I clicked purely because your face expression on the thumbnail made me lough so much. But the video did not disappoint either. 😊

  • @MrCaiobrz
    @MrCaiobrz 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh it comes with Google maps ... if it were made by Encarta 95 LMAO

  • @ronny12tech
    @ronny12tech 10 месяцев назад +1

    Glad to see my favourite RUclipsrs are switching to Linux as well, that's what I'm planning to do as well. Gonna make some videos of the whole process that might be helpful to some

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 10 месяцев назад +3

    You used basically the worst Linux setup possible, you chose an Arch-based distro which on top of that is also in alpha stage…

    • @terrienhumain6723
      @terrienhumain6723 10 месяцев назад +3

      And on an Apple machine :D

    • @Lampe2020
      @Lampe2020 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@terrienhumain6723
      Ah, dang it! I wanted to mention that in my original comment but forgot it, thanks for reminding me :)

  • @j0zko
    @j0zko 10 месяцев назад +16

    As a Windows user who has no experience with both MacOS and Linux, I can say that everything you've said is 100% right.

    • @Karlzzzy
      @Karlzzzy 10 месяцев назад +6

      Noob

    • @absoluteME524
      @absoluteME524 10 месяцев назад +1

      Agree

    • @vaishakhgk2006
      @vaishakhgk2006 10 месяцев назад +4

      Sorry how are you saying everything he said is right when you didn't even use that ?

    • @Karlzzzy
      @Karlzzzy 10 месяцев назад

      @@vaishakhgk2006 niceeeeeeee epic ment

  • @jaames
    @jaames 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, the comment section is a battlefield. I usually experience Windows PC Master Race fanboys throwing cannonballs my way as a MacOS user (not knowing I started using computers on DOS) but dang, Linux users attacking fellow Linux users are on a whole different ball game.

  • @kittenzrulz2314
    @kittenzrulz2314 10 месяцев назад +11

    It's beautiful (I use Arch btw)

  • @christopherparsons7125
    @christopherparsons7125 10 месяцев назад +12

    Very funny Sam. But you really did manage to choose one of the hardest versions of Linux to use. KDE and Arch? That's nuts for a beginner. Ubuntu and just stock Gnome would have been a better idea. It wouldn't have provided this level of hilarity though...
    Also, most of the bugs you experienced happened because you're using a MacBook with Apple silicon inside it. Not a Linux developer fault but much more an Apple locking down their ecosystem fault.

  • @chocolat5804
    @chocolat5804 10 месяцев назад +1

    you shoul've tried it on other pc, not on a m.1 mac, as everyone is saying, asahi is an experimental distro for the m.1 chips.

  • @johnneisler6552
    @johnneisler6552 4 месяца назад

    Linux users are the elite of the tech industry, but arch users are the elite among Linux users

  • @VibhavSinha
    @VibhavSinha 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sam, we know you are a true Linux fan.
    I use gnome with fedora btw.

  • @apTimON
    @apTimON 17 дней назад

    Sam, you should try Fedora Linux with GNOME. I would like to see your next video with your experience with it.

  • @user-ks1oh2wx6o
    @user-ks1oh2wx6o 2 месяца назад +2

    Wait until he finds out about gentoo

  • @clampchowder9569
    @clampchowder9569 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow did not expect an alien prometheus reference

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      I was watching Alien again and I actually got intrigged if there is any connection. But unfortunately no. It would be awesome.
      But Alien Weyland and Linux Wayland are not connected 😢 The name is based on the Wayland city in Massachusetts. It has like 20k people and its probably weird when they search their city name in google hahahahahahahhaha

    • @clampchowder9569
      @clampchowder9569 4 месяца назад

      ​@arturpaivads bro he literally uses a clip from the movie alien promethius in this video like he's making that parallel that's the point what are you on about?

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 4 месяца назад

      @@clampchowder9569 Im saying that I did the same connection when I was watching alien and found intriguing. Then I've search and its just a coincidence. Just that.
      Tech stuff was named after scifi franchises before.

  • @clusterstage
    @clusterstage 10 месяцев назад +3

    samtime gestures are recommended

  • @kebman
    @kebman 3 месяца назад

    Congratulations! You chose the the educational version of Linux (Arch btw), which is less user friendly, bcos you actually have to research stuff to get it going. You'll be an IT expert in no time with this system!

  • @bkThund3r
    @bkThund3r 10 месяцев назад +6

    Going from mac to arch is like going from prek to college.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 10 месяцев назад +1

      More like University to special Ed.

    • @robonator2945
      @robonator2945 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@markm0000cope harder

    • @endo9881
      @endo9881 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@markm0000 Allow me to present to you: COPIUM

    • @Ehren1337
      @Ehren1337 Месяц назад +1

      @@markm0000 i was shook that mac users are more dumb than windows. i can already do linux after few days.

  • @M2rsh
    @M2rsh 10 месяцев назад +45

    Uses the most plain and basic version of Linux and complains that nothing is preinstalled 👍

    • @Qwami
      @Qwami 10 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, yall...I found one of the Linux dwibs

    • @randomness0
      @randomness0 10 месяцев назад

      What do you mean by nothing is installed? it had more junk than my Manjaro installation.

    • @M2rsh
      @M2rsh 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@randomness0 I know theoretically this is not arch and he installed an experimental new distro made to run on Mac's new CPU still kind of weird that it didn't have discovery backend or pipewire/PulseAudio preinstalled if it even works on Mac my guess is that he just installed kde and kde-applications

    • @bloozism
      @bloozism 9 месяцев назад

      This disto is bloated , what are you talking about

  • @ENNEN420
    @ENNEN420 5 месяцев назад +1

    And to think that if he didn't get the meme CPU macbook, he could have gotten a Linux distribution NOT in early alpha!

  • @BartKus
    @BartKus 5 месяцев назад

    He never did get to edit that document.

  • @homerjones3490
    @homerjones3490 10 месяцев назад +1

    LOL I have Fedora Server running on a MBP I5 which is broken and won't run properly in MacOS. It works fine. Installed a bunch of VMs. Manage it all remotely with Cockpit. It is configured to turn off the screen which only displays a command line in 4 minutes after a boot.

  • @mentalmarvin
    @mentalmarvin 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sam, linux isn't ready yet for apple silicon! You should try it on any x86 device instead if you want everything to work out of the box! It will still take a while longer to reverse engineer every proprietary apple component

  • @somehowimanage3902
    @somehowimanage3902 10 месяцев назад +1

    Was that watermelon from Dabuleni by any chance? 😆

  • @clockblower6414
    @clockblower6414 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sad days the only reason arch is more advanced is BC nothing is installed by default haha. All the extra background processes have to be enabled by the user including ones for sound iirc

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      you're right but for the wrong reasons. Although on pure Arch you need to install an audio backend like pipewire or pulseaudio that comes ready on Asahi. The reason the speakers didn't worked is because the speaker driver wasn't ready on Asahi at the time... Alpha software is like that... And its working today, but there's still a big list of stuff that doesn't work...

  • @Gigachad-hb7ji
    @Gigachad-hb7ji 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hold on babe,new SamTime video just dropped.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday Месяц назад

    I'm a Linux developer so I'm able to give you a little bit of insight as to why Linux is so difficult to use : We don't want you to use it, it's ours. We only made it look usable so you're tempted into making a fool of yourselves. We hid all the best bits inside Emacs.

  • @stanb1455
    @stanb1455 10 месяцев назад +1

    me when the work in progress port of the linux kernel is a work in progress:

  • @alxt111
    @alxt111 10 месяцев назад +19

    You should have, at the very least, mentioned that this software is in an alpha state. As I read through the comments, it becomes apparent that people are under the impression that this represents a typical Linux experience. However, that is certainly not the case.

    • @Matrox473
      @Matrox473 10 месяцев назад +5

      feel really dishonest or uninformed tbh...

    • @_Juke_
      @_Juke_ 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Matrox473on a satire channel ? :D

    • @roxsonixx
      @roxsonixx 10 месяцев назад +1

      Typical Mac user.

    • @arturpaivads
      @arturpaivads 5 месяцев назад

      Well... Its arch linux on comedy channel... What do you expect? Things to work properly?

  • @swagmuffin9000
    @swagmuffin9000 9 месяцев назад

    Thought this was funny. I know i ran into some of these problems at some point in my Linux journey. Funny you had them all at the same time, but that's arch for you, it's a beast starting out

  • @nothingunwaines2063
    @nothingunwaines2063 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great Video! If you are going to do more Linux, maybe dial down the difficulty to Ubuntu instead. No need to go all dark souls on your first try.

  • @digitalspecter
    @digitalspecter 5 месяцев назад

    They're progressing! KDE might one day surpass Swing applications in aesthetics.