SAMTIME tried KDE Plasma... but he MESSED UP
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It's already a miracle that Asahi works this well on Apple Silicon
Bloody oath!
No miracle. Just hard work from all the legendary Linux developers.
I seem to be the only person I know who PREFERS to use his Asahi Linux on his M1 Mac instead of the native macOS. Even though I can only get sound over Bluetooth, I like Asahi, and it works. SAMTIME has got to be much more clever and computer literate than I. I suppose he's just trying to get laughs...
Why? Apple silicon is no different from any other new platform Linux have to work with
@@damnhatesyou No programmer's manual, no vendor kernel that are forced to open source because GPL?
I won't really call it a miracle but it's significantly more work than getting say an Allwinner SoC to work for sure.
I love Arch Linux, I use it as my daily driver, but I would never suggest it to anyone other than someone who is already familiar with linux and looking to learn a lot and wants to tinker.
100% true. It's just going to frustrate them
I agree though in many things, once you learn Arch it becomes easier than the pre set distros
Yeah, I run Arch-based as my daily driver (CachyOS w/ hyprland) and on my work system. I usually get newbies starting on something Debian based, sometimes OpenSUSE depending on the person.
@@gorrumKnightAgree with you. Usually, I recommend Ubuntu/Mint or Fedora/OpenSUSE.
@@gorrumKnight Yeah, I'd generally recomend KDE neon, I've never had any problems arrise from it and it really feels like it's trying to keep you from needing the command line
He couldn't have failed more spectacularly if he tried. In fact, I think he planned this all along. 🤣
I think that's one problem with the video - it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not
Obviously.
@@markusTegelane He's a comedian. Take a guess.
@@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019zelensky is a comedian as well... its hard to know what comedian do these days.
That's just it. He DIDN'T. He knows nothing about Linux and yet this is where searching for what to do took him. Right there is the problem.
"Asahi Linux, which is basically just Arch Linux but made a little simpler"
yeah, he's already dead
😂
You are correct, the audio issues are not KDEs fault,
Asahi linux is WIP and it says on their wiki that speakers are intentionally disabled as there is plausible risk damaging them when used with current drivers.
( ah, wrote this before the comment section of the video, sorry :P)
Microphone is not implemented yet.
On using ubuntu, he can't do that on m1.
Only asahi or fedora asahi spin work on that machine natively, however that does not excuse the fact that the video did portray a WIP distribution as the standard of linux as a whole.
Ubuntu would have worked easily in the VM software he wanted to use at the begining (parallels).
>first time user
>experimental hardware
>advanced, minimalistic, rolling release DIY distro
i mean, this just had to go wrong, i'm surprised he even got it installed
The script? Maybe the calamaris installer? I guess we'll never know. I wish we had a video of the install, that would be interesting
@@swagmuffin9000 yeah i looked it up apparently asahi comes with calamaris so that'd explain that part
It was a train set to go off a cliff.
I'm surprised it didn't go even more wrong.
12:15 the mythical "one-click fix button" every GUI users need
Yeah, the one you will never see because if the OS can fix it by a simple clic he would just fix it himself when the issue appear.
Windows troubleshooters try to do that and let's just say they don't really work 99.99% of the time lol
The expose thing he mentioned for gestures is a mac feature that brings up a separate layer of widgets. So he’s trying to do apple things in Linux (while wearing a NASA shirt).
First mistake is running Linux on a Mac considering all the hurdles they have currently on the arm CPUs just to get it running, but I mean it's a usecase I guess xD
I mean if you wanted to run Linux on a Mac get an older one... or just wait till Ashai/Fedora is in a better place.
Of course a lot of that is the hardware being intentionally designed to prevent you from doing what you want with it. After all, Linux has been on ARM processors for decades and working perfectly on a vast number thanks to the Raspberry Pi Foundation. This is why I'll never buy a Mac.
Arch on my 2011 Macbook Air runs like a dream. Granted, I'm running x-org/awesomewm so .... I'm not the typical mac user :P
If anything, run Linux as soon as apple stops giving updates your system. My laptop was bricked, and now it's 100% usable again
I hope he watches this video 😂😅😁😬🫠
if he does i hope his response video starts with
"EALLLOOO Im Sam Tuckah from the yt channel 'Nicco loves linux' and.."
"im gonna try linux" installs beta quality distro
More like Alpha, as its also mentioned on their website
this is even worse than when Linus tech tips used linux
The difference between him and Samtime is that Sam at least makes it funny and nobody will take him too serious. LTT is a more serious tech channel and he has a lot more followers. So, LTT is still worse IMO.
@@joemann7971I think the same
Probably Sam actually knows how to use linux (or any *nix btw) but exaggerates the flaws for comedic and educational purposes and Linus well is just Linus trying to pimp every cent of every view at any price
@@joemann7971 Here is the thing, Linus is actually more tech savy than the vast majority of people.
So the fact that he and Luke had so many problems showed the issues of Linux adoption quite clearly...
It was actually a fair review....
@@memovilmx6239 No, he honestly gave it a shot...
He actually demonstrated quite well why Linux is so hard to adopt for many people....
There is a reason that Linux users are in general better with computers than people who use other OS....
Linux is a confusing mess when you are first getting into it....
But the people that stay do so because they actually have fun.
But that's the issue... the people that stayed had so much fun that they don't fully remember all the hardships of the systems because we were actually enjoying it.
Linus was trying to join the community as a reviewer and as an average user...
He didn't go into it having fun.....
So I actually respect that Linus gave his review and think the Linux community probably needs to see what mistakes he made and how we can help people avoid those mistakes....
You should collab with him and walk him through a proper KDE experience.
@danielhalachev4714 It would be fun for me and possibly other people to watch. Its content, which makes it not a chore, waste of time and has benefit. Who knows, maybe someone learns something as well. Nicco obviously likes him and samtime is pretty funny. It would be a good video. The image linux has doesnt really matter. Its never going to be super mainstream and doesnt need to be. The 2% of people like myself that wants to use it will always find their way there, the others will use windows and mac.
@danielhalachev4714 I'm interested. I want to use Fedora properly but I feel their documentation is soo crappy for ACTUAL beginners to Linux.
The hardware he wants to use simply is not ready for it anyway.
@danielhalachev4714 Samtime is definitely nerdy and interested in tech. But he is also a comedian and is coming to Linux from that angle. Hence probably also the weird choice of hardware. It's the same shtick as with "Top Gear". But noone would say that Clarkson and May are not "car guys"
@danielhalachev4714 Oh, FFS, he's a comedian. He's done other linux content ( ruclips.net/video/H0r8TNjKrEo/видео.html ), in which he pokes fun at linux stereotypes. Just like he portrays apple users as smug money slaves to their ecosytem overlord, who censors all kinds of criticism ( ruclips.net/video/yO2cANbNYZg/видео.html ). Or how Windows always crashes and how Windows 11 is horrible (it really isn't worse than Apple's walled garden). It's a comedy bit. It's not meant to be accurate. That's why he intentionally chose the worst hardware / software combination out there, even though he is obviously aware of other linux flavors ( ruclips.net/video/zxtkQ6IOsSE/видео.html ).
And regarding the "actual problems with Linux": I agree with you that his comedy targets actual problems with other companies, e.g. Apple's horrendous environmental record ( ruclips.net/video/iOyukQBGG9o/видео.html ). But that is our OPINION. An Apple slave would say: I don't care! It's not a problem for me. I have the money. I just don't have the time to get informed and choose the right linux distro.
For me it's just a humorous shtick trying to make an unfinished distro run on sub-optimal hardware. And I would love to see a Nicco / Sam collab. I wouldn't be very insightful for linux nerds. But it would be funny.
Mac user installs Arch Linux with no understanding of Linux and then blames Linux for problems. Sounds about right for the Mac users I know.
His channel is parody.
@danielhalachev4714 Exactly. Linux isn't perfect but when you go into it blindly like this and then blame it for failing it seems to be an intentional jab from someone who just wants to make their preferred platform look better. "Oh all you silly Linux users out there, this is why Mac is sooooo superior. It just works." I've seen this scenario from iPhone people using an android for the first time and not bothering to take any time to learn how it works.
@@roxsonixx it's kinda frustrating because now a lot of people are gonna see that video and just go linux bad he could have chosen anything else even an arch based distro and most things would have worked that said i have no idea if there even exists another distro for apple silicone
@@eiboeck88 There is Fedora Asahi Remix.
@danielhalachev4714Sam's channel is brilliant. As a Linux fan boy for well over a decade - this is a all humour - possibly satire. His work is never to be taken seriously.
Lol, I love how Nicco's Italian really comes out when he starts doing his hand motions "it's YOOOU!" 🤣
As long as he doesn't send a few goons to snuff out Sam it's all good!
His accent has always sounded French to me.
The problem is not Arch itself, I use EndeavourOS as a daily driver, he just jumped in the worst way possible in Arch :'D
Love your sense of humor : ) Enjoyed this and the laughs. I am a daily Arch + KDE Plasma user so this was all quite funny !
I absolutely LOVE KDE Plasma! I had previously used XFCE, I tried KDE out just to see how it ran...and haven't looked back. Thanks for the work you all put into it!!!
At least he didn't roll with Gentoo for his first distro.
The irony is that Intel Macs actually works surprisingly well with both Linux and BSD these days. Now I want to see Samtime try out OpenBSD´s M1-version. For some strange reason I want to see Mr. Tucker get his head around FVWM.
I used FVWM a long time ago. I liked how it's one of those pieces of software that actually do as configured.
Asking an Apple user to get out of his comfort zone is like a baby crying for his pacifier.
You can ask a Linux user to get out of his comfort zone to try Mac OS and Windows
You can ask an Android user to try iOS and, heck, even a Symbian or KaiOS phone
You can ask a Windows user to give Linux or MacOS a whirl
But an Apple user, whether MacOS or iOS user to try others? Yeah you'll have better luck at the Earth stopping from spinning.
@@diwaalejandrogalvez796 Honestly, I think y'all say things like this to feel better about yourselves. Personally, I've been running Linux (Arch, Gentoo, etc.) for two decades. During that time, I've known lots of Mac users who use Linux and Windows. Shit, most of the STEM students/professors I knew were dual booting MacOS and Windows, while shelling into headless Linux servers they built themselves.
Expose is a Mac specific software feature. It has nothing to do with gestures except that it can be invoked that way. Not sure why anyone (technical or not) would expect that to work on Linux. You can very easily map a similar feature on KDE or Gnome to that gesture.
I think one of the situations you can run into is that if you ask a random number of people which distro they use, often they'll not be using the more user friendly options, and perhaps they'll recommend the one they're using instead.
Similarly, guides on how to do things are often written by experienced people, and the guides can similarly show how to do things in another distro and leave it to the user to figure out the differences.
This is a situation that windows users and mac users don't have to face.
3:00 my classmate heard that I use Linux, and she immediately asked if I use Kali Linux
SDDM always looks that way on a fresh installation on arch. You just have to go apply the theme once you login.
😂😂😂 bla bla bla
@@albatross7¿?
So he uses a WIP Arch based distro that is also beyond his skill level, doesn't configure what he needs to correctly out of box, and has problems? Color me shocked I say, totally shocked.
Jokes aside KDE works great OOB on Intel based Macs. I set one up per a customer request at work and they were blown away by how great it felt to use (I gave them Kubuntu because they're a Linux newbie).
I'm actually surprised that Asahi is running that well on Apple silicon -- it's still really early for it, and you still are living on the cutting edge running it.
If you call it “running well” you Linux people have a pretty low bar for what you consider acceptable.
One thing KDE legitimately does badly is not having app names that make sense
That's just the *nix community in general.
Come on bro dolphin name for file manager totally make sense.
Well good luck distinguish the various "file manager" or "video player" etc if they all have the same name !
Yeah, this isn't a kde problem per Chris.
Whenever opening my software menu, I'll have some apps in each letter, but when i get to "K", it's like 80% of everything on my computer. Not complaining, I just think it's funny
Trying to put myself into Samtime's mindset, I could see him having some incentive to go with Arch over any easier options because it would make for a more entertaining video. It's a whole lot more fun when things go wrong than if everything went exactly as they were supposed to.
Btw I'm using Manjaro/KDE.
It took me going through like 20 distros until I finally landed on arch and, yes, it's really hard to get going properly.
I don't really get why people say that arch is hard to get up and running. You can install the plasma group package and it basically setups the entire DE for you.
@@happygofishing agreed, Arch with KDE was my first distro and aside from a more involved install process (and there are ways to make this easier), It's really not that hard to use.
But it's also a very rewarding learning experience, once you get it to work, there's no going back. And it's not even that hard, you don't have to anyting different from the wiki, so it's not really hard, it's just time consuming, I guess.
I'm an Arch user for almost 10 years now
@@happygofishingfacts. Initial installation is hard but kde makes it hella easy
love both your videos
TLDR he used mac with apple silicon that's shit and used distro for experienced users as a beginner
Much love Nico!
If I understand it right, with Arch Linux you only get Linux itself and a command line and package manager and that's it? Because I've heard it from many people that Arch Linux is like this minimal starting point from which you start to build your own actually usable system.
you actually make quite good videos. Keep it up!
question: in the new suit of mail/kontact/kalendar
is 365 going to be supported natively? Meaning MFA support and authentication, not just imap/pop3
11:18 "you should have use ubuntu" meanwhile the panda is breaking the keyboard its so funny to me im crying
I hate how so many people just don't research how to ACTUALLY do what they want and what it actually is. Like they literally don't care at all
I lulled all the way through this video. Thank you. 😂
Maybe you should invite Sam for a QA tester :), apparently he has spare free time.
Nicco are there any fixes with placement of windows, on 5.27 windows spawn pretty weirdly when using two monitors, and do not follow mouse
He's trying a three finger swipe up, which on macOS is "show all windows + desktops"
is there a sound equalizer in kde? you seems to turn the volume up and down. with a sound equalizer it will be good
4:54 I think it was from editing BUT we need a login sound for Plasma now! It's a small detail that's really nice and would give Plasma an identity. Also, you could make it configurable same as switching wallpapers, accent colors, etc.
I mean I currently have a login sound setup in KDE but the setting is so obscure that even I may not be able to find it a second time.
I think they are implementing sound themes and customization for plasma 6
Sound themes are really few and far in between in Linux through the board, just like I don't remember ever seeing a well working screen saver either. Not that they are needed, or didn't waste energy, but seeing your PC doing something when you walk in the room, is like seeing your kid playing, instead of just face down and motionless on the floor!😜
This is sort of how I imagine Mac users going through daily life.
I am a die-hard Fedora user and a Linux enthusiast with years of experience. I've never tried Arch (except Manjaro, but it's not the same). Why do some people attempt to drive a semi-truck after a Toyota Corolla and then wonder why it's much harder than they expected?
what distro do you use KDE with?
On knowing what I'm doing with Arch, I was able to recreate my boot partition using a live usb, so I _think_ I'm good? Then again, I deleted it in the first place 🤔
KDE taskbar clock - can it be done to increase the font size ? Like in the Puppy Linux ? Why some KDE distros completely removed Konqueror and others still include it ?
When I watched his video this was my exact thought process 😂
@12:00 But... if it can tell it is on Arch and using pacman why can't it also just in the very least show the command to install what it needs if not give you the button to kick it off (with the instructions as a failback)?
9:50 kontact is the best, was always using it for caldav, carddav and other accessories. Now im on gnome since it runs better on my machine with wayland, and I miss kontact sooo much
Hey Nicco,
Great video, per usual 🙌🏼😃
I thought you would be using Arch Linux. I started with Ubuntu and other Debian/Ubuntu based distorts, now I’m only using Arch Linux with KDE and I love it.
I also like Samtime, he’s funny and takes the pis on all tech related, so it’s not only Linux/KDE.
I just figured Sam was goofing around and having a good laugh about it. He certainly got me laughing. 🤣
Nico do you know why packagekit does not manage flatpak and discover sucks so much at it (fails when updating especially when multiple installations are present)
I run Arch but Im a experienced poweruser , Arch is a hobbyist distro. i like fixing broken things. it mostly works. but it doesnt sometimes when i tinker with it, but thats fun for me to fix problems because I want to learn EVERYTHING . this video was an amazing video
I think that it is not a particularly Arch problem. It is a general thing for rolling release distros. They do not have the time available as regular release like Ubuntu to test everything perfect. Rolling release breaks things. I agree with you that Arch is a hobbyist distro.
As someone whose first Linux was Slackware and who used Arch for years (btw), i'm legitimately, genuinely impressed that a Mac user who has never used Linux before was able to get a booting, semi-functional Arch Linux install put together is amazing to me. It's really impressive!
It's first time I'm seeing your channel You sound Finnish.
Is there a distro with android emulation configured out of the box?
Watching Niccos reaction video is actually more fun than Samtimes original. 😊
I'm on Fedora and it installed gnome by default. How do I switch to kde plasma?
the way Arch shows how to setup SDDM doesn't use the Breeze theme by default
this video was hilarious. cheers to both of u for being good sports though lol
Thanks for your Amazing Reaction Mr Nico Good Old SamTime Didn't Know How To use Linux properly And Is it ok for Me To Keep Using Kubuntu Without Snaps
i use arch btw ... and there is a reason people say it. It requires driving-license levels of efforts to be able to use arch linux ... as in i believe anyone of sound mind is probably able to do it, but its not just "free"
Kubuntu 22.x and 23.x works very well on Macbook Air. There are specific instructions on how to get the wifi drivers after Ubuntu install on a Mac (by cable), and for the rest any hardware-related bugs are as common as for PCs (very few I mean).
Hi, I am experienced Arch Linux user and software developer, but also someone who does not claim to know everything.
But that default size thing in KDE is definitely an issue. And how it works in general, most notably with the VM experience. After resizing apps always jump back to default sizes.
But also after connecting and disconnecting monitors to a bare metal system. Is that auto resize aspect something I am supposed to configure better?
sddm defaults to that theme on Deck when you enable it by default---you need the Breeze SDDM theme set in your conf to load it
Linux distributions were always for creative people with extraordinary curiosity.
Thank you for your great work and your creativity!
Floating panels are amazing!
i am sooooooooo exited for kde 6 so so so exited
Using Linux since the late 90's, I'm about done with distro hopping. I cut my teeth on Gentoo and Slack, but now I'm more interested in getting work done more than tinkering as in the "old days." The first GUI I used was the first iteration of Gnome, then KDE2, KDE3 then after the disasterous KDE4 I switched to Gnome again, but since 2018 I'm back with KDE, which to me is the best DE of them all. I have settled on Q4OS distro, Debian based and it "just works." I'm happy!
12:00 in this case, the USER is the fix it button.
This is helping me understand Linux more than a lot of things, like tutorial videos and technical explanations. Context is important, and I feel like I'm gaining that, with this and the one with LTT.
I guess maybe it's making more sense why Linux is the way it is, but tbh, it's also a little like.. understanding why governments are the way they are. It seems hard to fix things. It looks like a lot of developers are just people with widely different opinions, and having to democratically design something is a very slow, difficult way to, well, design.
And that's on top of just having very different preferences, background and use cases from the end users coming in, and how after living in Linux for a while, what's obvious becomes a very different thing to each.
I guess after all, Linux really is something that uses up a slot for hobbies/projects. It's not just done on the side like Windows, you have to sit down and properly be into it, unless you're just doing very basic things anyways. Something you have to have or make room for, to have time for. I don't know if it's an answer to Microsoft.. Microsofting (they've really been turning it up to 11... get it?). I miss Windows 7.
I started with endeavorOS and then went to straight arch as a beginner and honestly it was very smooth for me
Im running Fedora KDE on an older Win 10 laptop and I love it.
ironically the only time i install linux on a mac, imac to be exact is when apple deemed it to be obsolete to the point youtube wouldn't even work, the only problem was a wifi driver, but guy was using ethernet so that was not a problem, oh and imac still runs to these day, probably lol
So, when we use Windows beta versions, they make sure user's know that. Mostly they put that on the desktop all the time. Linux distro's like Asahi Linux is in Alpha. So, I think it's a good idea to put something like that. Because somepeople can be put off because these kind of things.
That SDDM theme is what I always see as default on Kubuntu, Pop!_OS, Fedora, etc. I've always had to change the theme myself
Yeah, i also installed Ubuntu after hearing about what Linux was back in the mid 2000's. I used it regularly for fun, there wasn't much you could do, Wine was far from perfect and I was just experimenting with different DE's. In 2020 i finally switched to Arch Linux/KDE and it's running fantastic! Can't wait for KDE6!
Actually installing SDDM on Debian, Gentoo and Arch fallsback to this default theme instead of Breeze, but it's installed
I am no expert but before I switched to Linux I read up and watched as many vids as I could. I learned very quickly that ARCH was for experts only and was steered towards Mint or Ubuntu to start with. Only a fool would jump in at the hardest level and expect success. It is like learning to drive by jumping in high powered sports car.
I also watched many videos before switching to Linux, but I chose Arch as my first distro and it was fine. It really isn't hard to use. The command line install is more involved, yeah, but it just boils down to following some instructions on the Arch wiki. And besides, there are scripts and custom ISOs that make the install easy. Beyond that, using Arch with KDE is no different than using any other distro with KDE.
Then I'm a fool, because I got so pissed at Windows one day, I switched to Linux (Ubuntu) cold turkey. No dual boot, no Windows machine for backup, and I even destroyed the CD's! Best decision I have ever made!
I had to go through Linux boot camp, and so dug in and took it seriously. I was on Arch and KDE plasma (Antergos) a few months later and have been with it for over a decade now! I am on EndeavourOS which rose from Antergos's ashes via the Antergos forum community.
I agree with you, I felt everything wrong while watching that video 😅
This is about what I'd expect from an apple user.
SAMTIME should have used a machine compatible with Linux with Linux preinstalled.
12:20 bro really lost it 😂
4:22 once i unistalled python from my system and the sddsm looked like this, i had to re install the os, luckily i had a separate home partition with my data.
isnt there a version of fedora that uses asahi
Sometimes I lose faith in the humanity, it is sux to test the faith for the science.
The mistake happened long before installing Asahi: buying an Apple device.
I mean, telling him to use Ubuntu is all nice and all, but... Nothing outside of Asahi would work on his machine so that's a mute point.
Arch was my first linux distro and i still use it. Do i recommend people to do that, no but it can be done. just how willing are you to spend time and effort to learn.
This was so much fun to see! But watched Sams Video when it came out and it had me in tears! Especially his Preboot joke was Gold!
If there's one thing I wish I knew how to do in KDE, it's having the same swipe Gestures as in Gnome, because I hot used to that Workflow so badly and I only work with a Trackpad (yes even when my Laptop is plugged into a Monitor, I use my Magic Trackpad). That said, KDE is really awesome and I love how customizable it is!
Asahi linux devs should watch this video.
Mandatory viewing for them.
I don"t see how it would change their work. Asahi is absolutely not for new users, and Sam didn't configured it correctly.
Asahi is a testing distro (pro users). The support of Apple devices made by Asahi will come to ordinary distro a bit later.
… and for my next magic trick I will try and learn how to fly a space shuttle 🤣
Yeahhhh he did what people in the Arch community get VERY heated about and didn’t RTFM 😂
Arch based distro that still in its early days with comparatively small dev team, on M1 silicone made by apple using Apple hardware that's notorious for being locked down as much as they can, installed by a complete beginner using KDE which compared to something like Gnome isn't as user-friendly (especially for a mac user it feel closer to that). Yeah, what could go wrong, honestly I more surprised it booted up and mostly worked.
I think the point was that the help for Arch Linux from the Arch Wiki is pretty good, albeit a little confusing. But as you said, its for experienced users. I ran it and im back on Debian KDE.
Another point that i would like to make, is that installing KDE on arch is not like installing Debian (or other distros) with KDE. It is my belief that Debian has tested and possibly tweaked KDE to run very smoothly on their OS. I don't think we all know the tweaks or black magic tricks to tweak ARCH properly to run KDE.
cheers
for mac there is only asahi and asahi because of the driver stuff need to be on arch but the create the fedora asahi, but problaby after this video
Nah to be honest I don"t think there's a more user-friendly desktop than another one. It really depends on how you take your time to learn it. For example I find KDE really user-friendly, and GNOME not so much, but that's just because I didn't take the time to learn to learn GNOME.
I was just using Ubuntu back then as a newbie and I distro-hopped a lot, until I found KDE (and later Arch, then I used KDE on it), which I immediately liked and wanted to actually learn it (and even though as a newbie I didn't understand a lot of things about Linux in general). So yeah. Depends on if you want to learn how to use of a desktop or not
This is a great take. The "beginner friendly" distros do get out of your way more than ones you have to set up though. It is 100% up to how you take your time to learn it like you said, but I completely understand if jumping in with Arch first is a bit much for some people. That said, you don't need to be an expert to run Arch. If you are willing to take your time to learn it can be a great starting point.
It's funny our paths were so similar starting with Ubuntu and distro hopping until we landed on Arch. I landed on Gnome instead of KDE and feel completely comfortable with it, yet I am not comfortable with KDE because I haven't spent the time to learn it, which further proves your point.
@@arjix8738
The last time I used Ubuntu it was using Gnome 2 lol. I learned Gnome 40 on Fedora and Arch which do start with default experiences. Either way you can still learn how to use a DE if it's preconfigured.
@@arjix8738 Well, I find that Ubuntu GNOME is relatively close to GNOME vanilla. But I understand it's not the default GNOME experience
"Not because linux, because YOU!" Is a very arch user thing to say. It's something I wanna say quite often, to myself as well.
I observed his prenology and instantly knew hw was a mac user, Scary stuff.