Plasma 6.1 Is Better Than I Expected... Mostly

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
  • Last week I did a stream on Plasma 6.1's release and whilst Plasma 6 was a relatively solid release, 6.1 was only better so let's put together my thoughts on this new update in a more coherent form
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  • @lainalien
    @lainalien 5 месяцев назад +263

    I love that there's no apparent limit to cursor scaling, I can just wiggle my mouse and have a giant pixart Hatsune Miku

    • @vilian9185
      @vilian9185 5 месяцев назад +14

      best feature i don't care, if they change i learn c++ just to make a pull requesting adding it lol

    • @NotTheGaslighter
      @NotTheGaslighter 5 месяцев назад +12

      wait, you have a Miku cursor! I just found a Kasane Teto cursor, how coincidental!

    • @Hyperboid
      @Hyperboid 5 месяцев назад +4

      best part is there WAS a limit in 6.0

    • @acegear
      @acegear 5 месяцев назад +12

      thats a feature not a bug

    • @CorneliusCornbread
      @CorneliusCornbread 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@acegear It BETTER be, I EXPECT to see this in Plasma 6.2. My ADHD will be very upset if it isn't.

  • @nategraham4027
    @nategraham4027 5 месяцев назад +174

    It's pretty hilarious watching this video hours after I reviewed and merged like 5 fixes for issues you talked about lol. Most are fixed already in 6.1.1 and 6.1.2!
    Please do report the multiscreen maximized NVIDIA glitch though. I haven't seen any existing bug reports for it.

    • @nikiiv
      @nikiiv 5 месяцев назад +14

      People like you make me use Arch based distros. Thank you kind sir

    • @emperorarasaka
      @emperorarasaka 5 месяцев назад +10

      Hello Pointy Stick! Have a nice day

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hopefully you didn't outright remove unlimited cursors

    • @jeffrodrequez
      @jeffrodrequez 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! I didn't know about the cache bug but I absolutely ran into that a ton before - ugh drove me crazy!

    • @gizzmoguy.
      @gizzmoguy. 5 месяцев назад

      This bug or similar happens when using AMD hardware as well but it only happens when using Wayland. When the is coming from maximize to restore state it flashes briefly on second monitor. I've only notice this with Firefox and chrome browser. I am guessing Xwayland and or Wayland not sure

  • @lupomikti
    @lupomikti 5 месяцев назад +78

    The clicking in the blurred parts to exit edit mode is most likely to mimic what people expect out of a modal dialog say a website pops up for settings or something. It dims the background and you're supposed to be able to click out of the modal to dismiss it, so having that here as well makes sense, I can see a lot of people defaulting to that

  • @prgnify
    @prgnify 5 месяцев назад +35

    @5:58 this was one of the things that just felt SO RIGHT to me, I didn't think about it and it worked as I expected. It is really cool how your experience is different!! Goes to show how "difficult" UX/UI can be.

    • @guigs4467
      @guigs4467 5 месяцев назад +4

      Also, I'm pretty sure I've encountered this behavior somewhere else, to the point this felt intuitive.

    • @Rich-kq7eb
      @Rich-kq7eb 5 месяцев назад

      To me this seems like how I would expect Windows to work. Which to me as a Windows user switching to Linux feels intuitive. Maybe they are trying to cater to a broader audience. If that makes sense

  • @willft520
    @willft520 5 месяцев назад +25

    The cursor bug is the Mario 64 glitch that made it into Plasma 6.1

    • @Maud_on_YT
      @Maud_on_YT 4 месяца назад +11

      "Eventually the cursor becomes so big, that it becomes bigger than the WM itself, but if we keep growing the cursor for a few minutes, the kernel panics"

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ 5 месяцев назад +15

    I wish kwin devs would finally fix the issue that causes global font blurring when using kwin effects such as "invert", "high contrast", lightlyshaders(!), and so on while fractional scaling is active. I also miss latte-dock.

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  5 месяцев назад +5

      Invert is known about and is hopefully being worked on

  • @thefr0sk
    @thefr0sk 5 месяцев назад +17

    Don't know why but I find the "when X cursor was made people weren't magnifying cursors" incredibly funny

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 5 месяцев назад +31

    Its possible they could have a raster cursor and swap for an SVG automatically depending on which one os required

    • @vilian9185
      @vilian9185 5 месяцев назад +5

      the limitation is in the library tho, at least with wayland that problem is easy to fix, they could just throw always the rasters cursors and completely switch to svg cursors, that's what the new protocol can do, now on xorg....

    • @NotTheGaslighter
      @NotTheGaslighter 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@vilian9185 I believed KDE even had plans to use hyprcursor as a standard since hyprcursor accomplishes exactly what is needed for SVG cursors... maybe not a universal standard at this point, but hopefully more progress is made

    • @vilian9185
      @vilian9185 5 месяцев назад

      @@NotTheGaslighter exactly, but they can't use that in x11, or maybe they just have more important things todo than add the protocol lol

    • @nategraham4027
      @nategraham4027 5 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah, we just did that for 6.1.1.

    • @vilian9185
      @vilian9185 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@nategraham4027 let's gooo

  • @insu_na
    @insu_na 5 месяцев назад +7

    the edge barrier feels momentum-based to me. if I move the cursor quickly between screens it's like it's not even there, but if I move the mouse very delicately then it takes a long time to overcome that barrier. maybe there's a "hidden" speed threshold above which the additional distance you set is ignored, and only when you move your mouse slow enough the distance calculation takes effect
    I still experience kwin freezing for 1-2ms when opening overview mode via the Meta key as shortcut (modifier-only shortcut), and I have my kwin cache in a tmpfs

    • @JessicaFEREM
      @JessicaFEREM 5 месяцев назад

      Yep it's based on "pressure"

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 5 месяцев назад

      KDE has a great bug tracker! I searched for my bug for a few minutes and found a few others that had my issue. I don't know if it was just luck, but they claimed to have fixed the issue in only a few days! (now I just have to wait until it hits my distro repos).
      I think the edge barrier isn't customizable enough, nor is it something that I would want to be on by default.
      In my opinion the velocity threshold to skip it needs to be configurable as well as the distance.

  • @АлексейШилин-д1ф
    @АлексейШилин-д1ф 5 месяцев назад +22

    Do windows really need to fly by at light speed when entering/leaving Edit mode? Or is it an intended jumpscare?

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify 5 месяцев назад +4

      That *might* be governed by the animation speed setting, or desktop effects animation speed - something like that that I can't double check as I'm on mobile rn. Personally, I'm always happy with the fastest possible or even better, no animations.

    • @OfficialViper
      @OfficialViper 5 месяцев назад +2

      If I remember correctly, you can change the effect from flying away to flying "into the background" and disappearing. It's the desktop overview effect of something like that.

    • @АлексейШилин-д1ф
      @АлексейШилин-д1ф 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@prgnify The issue is not in the speed they have, although this adds to confusion, but in the very fact that some windows *from a different screen* just casually fly by when you enter or leave Edit mode. IDK about you but it's not something I expect to see.

    • @ghosthunter0950
      @ghosthunter0950 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@АлексейШилин-д1ф ngl your initial phrasing was bad. but now I get what you mean. ye it's visually annoying.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@АлексейШилин-д1ф Thank you for the clarification! Absolutely not what I thought you meant.

  • @kdcadet
    @kdcadet 5 месяцев назад +10

    i love the lack of cursor limit! this is a feature!

  • @tranthien3932
    @tranthien3932 5 месяцев назад +41

    Hyprcursor strikes again

  • @AlexanderAhjolinna
    @AlexanderAhjolinna 5 месяцев назад +8

    started using KDE since 4.6 on ChakraOS (which I helped to maintain), and when KDE released their first plasma 6 beta version I started using the git version (still using)...on openSUSE tumbleweed ....yes yes I'm that kind of masochist

    • @phoneticalballsack
      @phoneticalballsack 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah bru im rocking KDE Ninja 7.4 on CornmealOS rn with the Dijon kernel.

  • @JamesColeman
    @JamesColeman 5 месяцев назад +9

    From what I understand, the adaptive sync problem occurs on other operating systems as well. When looking to buy my monitor, the review site rtings mentioned flickering with it enabled.

    • @LaBBe_
      @LaBBe_ 5 месяцев назад

      for me it doesn't happen on windows at all 🤷

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 5 месяцев назад +1

      Inconsistent frame rate can also cause flicker

    • @somenameidk5278
      @somenameidk5278 5 месяцев назад

      i had a similar issue a while ago (i think it was with the proprietary nvidia drivers on X11). The funny part was that i had seen that issue on Windows before as well, but specifically only when playing Terraria in fullscreen. Doing that on Linux though, there was actually no flickering, it was the desktop that was flickering instead. Changing the refresh rate of my monitors down to 60hz also made the flicker go away.

    • @ChrisD__
      @ChrisD__ 5 месяцев назад

      @@LaBBe_ Mine starts flickering on Windows too at low refresh rates.

    • @somesalmon5694
      @somesalmon5694 4 месяца назад +1

      As far as i understand its a monitor config issue where the minimum and maximum framerates are farther apart than expected so when it rapidly changes back and forth the brightness changes cause a flicker. This can be fixed by changing your monitors edid file to bring the minimum and maximum refresh rates closer together. I personally dont know how to do this but if someone figures it out please do share :)

  • @DryPaperHammerBro
    @DryPaperHammerBro 5 месяцев назад +25

    I can't get my ogg of Never Gonna Give You Up working :/

    • @guiorgy
      @guiorgy 5 месяцев назад +6

      Personally, I would've made it play "why are you running" or "there's no escape"

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  5 месяцев назад +4

      There is a time limit but I'm not sure on what it is

    • @Yaya0001
      @Yaya0001 5 месяцев назад +1

      I had an antire ogg already of it has to be this way from mgrr, played the whole thing lol.

  • @michadybczak4862
    @michadybczak4862 5 месяцев назад +9

    Plasma fixes bugs pretty quickly and devs are responsive to complaints. It's completely opposite to Gnome, where they ignore you and if they respond, they tell you, it's all good, even if it's not. It's like talking with idiots. That is one of many reasons why I left Gnome and never looked back. Plasma is addictive ;).
    I love the shake cursor feature! I had to many times "loosing" the cursor and was wildly shaking it, in hope I will notice it somewhere. Now it's easier. Blurry part will be fixed, so no problem.
    You forgot about bugs with panel and moving icons on a task manager, but it's known and fixed with the next patch. Ah, what do you know? The patch update 6.1.1 is already waiting to be installed! Great!

  • @howdy2053
    @howdy2053 5 месяцев назад +3

    I'm not gonna lie, the mouse cursor growing is pretty damn neat when shaking. I don't think they should fix the "bug" as that seems more like a feature if you ask me

  • @mariocraft95
    @mariocraft95 5 месяцев назад +5

    I absolutely love KDE plasma. It is probably one of the best computer experiences I have ever had. It isn’t perfect, but definitely better than Windows that plasters ads every where, pushes its own garbage on you, purposefully breaks customization programs.
    Definitely got its issues, but damn they do good work

  • @mnoxman
    @mnoxman 5 месяцев назад +7

    So my computer gets wood when i shake my mouse?

  • @Artoooooor
    @Artoooooor 5 месяцев назад +2

    I hope they don't add the limit, it's funny.
    7:04 Zoom could be locked to the desktop/thing you are looking at. So when the desktop is pushed right, the "camera" follows it.

  • @nostalgianinja
    @nostalgianinja 5 месяцев назад +4

    Oh, so that's the reason why my top monitor and bottom monitor felt a little sticky on the mouse...

  • @moetocafe
    @moetocafe 5 месяцев назад +3

    Never used Plasma, but looks very polished and highly customizable, which is great.

  • @hunnybon
    @hunnybon 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, as someone with eyesight issues, I usually need to use the magnifier. The jumping around can be just a tad bit much, but otherwise, this is shaped up to be an amazing update.
    If you want my experience as someone who actively uses the zooming feature day to day, I usually, typically, zoom out when messing with widgets anyway.

  • @yosiyoda263
    @yosiyoda263 4 месяца назад

    In Plasma 6.1.1 the cursor isn't that pixly anymore. They made it way smoother. I use the Breeze cursor theme.

  • @hotshot2472010
    @hotshot2472010 4 месяца назад

    awesome video btw! quick question. how did you get your icons for the virtual desktops to look like that on the taskbar. i like that way better because it doesn't take up as much space

  • @DSdvdDS
    @DSdvdDS 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for mentioning the edge barrier! I could tell it was a feature but I didn't know what it was called to disable it.

  • @256shadesofgrey
    @256shadesofgrey 5 месяцев назад +4

    I never experienced the IO bug before, but that's probably because after installing the OS, I just go into settings to disable all animations. I feel like the animations just slow down my workflow, even if it's just a fraction of a second.

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 5 месяцев назад

      Animations are good to have a mental idea of what's happening.
      In my opinion having stuff just appear in an instant it's confusing

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@no_name4796 Complete opposite to me, animations just make it take longer to get things done and waste resources. Probably because I've been using computers so long and upgrading was always about the interaction getting faster and faster. An artificial delay for animations seems like a huge regression in UI responsiveness.

    • @draftofspasiba2
      @draftofspasiba2 5 месяцев назад

      That was a bug affecting HDs and afaik it was way more frequent on plasma 6. SSD/NVME users wasn't affect though

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@draftofspasiba2 ssds just process the io faster. They could still create slowdowns depending on the overall load

    • @draftofspasiba2
      @draftofspasiba2 5 месяцев назад

      @@NJ-wb1cz that's right

  • @SamuelDePauw
    @SamuelDePauw 5 месяцев назад +2

    Aight the bell sound for me is now "access denied" XD

  • @kennyheimbuch8686
    @kennyheimbuch8686 4 месяца назад

    Perfection for is one of the first things I do: remove Akonadi and the KMail/Kontact Suite stuff. Doesn't come with all distros, but does on Fedora.

  • @dexterman6361
    @dexterman6361 4 месяца назад

    You can't edit tray icon settings when in edit mode
    Yes I think the cicking in the empty space should be disabled.
    Desktop panel autohide is broken - it doesn't show when cursor is hovered over)

  • @qlum
    @qlum 5 месяцев назад

    Ah yes the edge barrier, I noticed that too, seems the intention is that it's not a fixed distance, but rather a number of px with a movement speed multiplier.
    So for slower movement the distance is much greater and for faster movements the distance is much shorter.

  • @gerarderloper
    @gerarderloper 5 месяцев назад +1

    Desktop flicker/fluttering when freesync/adaptive sync is enabled is a long time issue that they need to fix. I've had it happen on my 4090 but no doubt it just happens all the time if you enable it.

  • @maxanimator9547
    @maxanimator9547 5 месяцев назад

    the padding can't be in pixels. The density of your monitors is what matters, as two adjacent monitors may either not have the same resolution or not the same scale. Having the zone be displayed on each monitor taking those factors into account would be a nice feature though.

  • @VallThyo
    @VallThyo 5 месяцев назад +1

    I had the QML file error in my laptop, but after an update was fixed. And aside from that, 6.1 is very good and literally no errors.

  • @EvanEdwards
    @EvanEdwards 4 месяца назад

    Re: Desktop configuration margins: Clicking out of something to reset it to default mode feels like a natural UX. It's a gut feeling, I can't explain (and shouldn't -- what feels intuitive is what the question is about).

  • @nyaaaaaaaa
    @nyaaaaaaaa 4 месяца назад

    the flickering issue with freesync happened to me too! For some reason I had to disable it on my monitor and not just in KDE

  • @JordanPlayz158
    @JordanPlayz158 5 месяцев назад

    That ghosting bug of windows has occurred since I upgraded to Plasma 6 (I'd assume .0) so hope it gets fixed, it is not a big deal but is quite annoying when multitasking

  • @wrathofainz
    @wrathofainz 5 месяцев назад

    My only real problem in the latest updates to plasma is that windows can fail to drag across virtual desktops.
    Like, I'll be trying to snap a window to the side, accidentally drag it to desktop 2 and be completely unable to move it back or to desktop 3.
    Before that my issue was a weird gimmic where windows being focused makes the desktop brighter, so there would be a big change whenever I minimized a window.
    I think the fix was to look in settings to disable a random effect, but I don't remember

  • @iBolski
    @iBolski 5 месяцев назад

    Looks like 6.1.1 broke it. Now the cursor just disappears. I've manually set the size in Accessibility under the "Shake cursor" setting but nope. It disappears.

  • @bennypr0fane
    @bennypr0fane 5 месяцев назад

    Another way to get rid of the rightclick menu in system settings is to hover the mouse over it and press Esc

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 5 месяцев назад +1

    I want custom resolution support. My TV often gets mistaken for 4k30 but once i setup the 4k60 mode, it doesnt realize i have 4k60 until it feels like it. All could be avoided if i could just say "yea i really have 4k60 trust me bro"

  • @WyvernDotRed
    @WyvernDotRed 5 месяцев назад

    14:20 Most definitely the screen switches to displaying the window's part of the framebuffer, but the window does not refresh it, leaving the previous image stored there to be displayed.
    I've seen similar behaviour plenty of times in various desktops by opening apps, usually while the processor is clocked slowly for laptop battery saving.
    Sometimes I've seen it in apps while the system is not slowing itself down or on my desktop, it's just expected occasional behaviour to me.

  • @Stroopwafe1
    @Stroopwafe1 4 месяца назад

    I know I should probably report this as a bug, but the timer widget doesn't actually keep time correctly, its seconds are faster than actual seconds. But I don't feel like making a whole account just for something so small

  • @Wampa842
    @Wampa842 5 месяцев назад

    My personal favorite 6.1 feature is the corner barriers. I used to whip my cursor into corners a lot on Windows, and not having this when I switched to Linux was extremely jarring.
    Now if only we could copy panels between screens...

  • @osbert
    @osbert 4 месяца назад

    I still have a ton of lockups like this cache bug you're describing.
    Open dolphin. Super + right to maximise right, system locks up. drag dolphin window off the edge, system locks up. Nothing showing as disk i/o though so I guess something else...
    Oh... and it's specific to the hell that is wayland 🙄🙄🙄
    Works fine on X11

  • @mble
    @mble 5 месяцев назад

    6:00 this is most likely for the people that accidentally enter the edit mode. Clicking the empty space to exit edit mode is something people are used to (for example from iOS)

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ 5 месяцев назад

    Funnily enough, adaptive sync is working fine for me (6800 XT, AOC Q24G2, Kernel 6.9.6, Plasma 6.1.0). When brightness flickering happens, the issue is either the kernel mode GPU driver or a faulty VRR implementation in the monitor (was quite common with earlier ones). What can also cause problems, is using mangohud and forcing on adaptive sync there while kwin or gamescope also enable it this can cause all sorts of madness, including flickering, laggy mouse cursor and horrid framepacing.

  • @chyldstudios
    @chyldstudios 5 месяцев назад +1

    The "grow cursor on shake" is standard on macos.

  • @XanTheXanadul
    @XanTheXanadul 5 месяцев назад

    I checked 6.1 out yesterday and I like the new features. My personal favourites are the new edit mode and screen edge barrier.
    But until per screen workspaces are a thing, I'll hold off on trying to daily drive it.

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 5 месяцев назад

      Per screen workspaces and actual autotiling (which is crazy kde doesn't has support for those two big things. But on the bright side, someone did propose those as a goal for the next 2 years, and it was popular. Just hopying)

    • @XanTheXanadul
      @XanTheXanadul 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@no_name4796 Yeah, proper tiling would be really nice. I could work with floating and their current tile layouts though if need be.
      I can understand that they don't support it yet, it is pretty niche, so most desktops don't (upcoming cosmic is the exception rather than the rule). Also, in X11 it was possible for the user to swap kwin with another window manager like i3 if they wanted to.

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 5 месяцев назад

      @@XanTheXanadul i mean they have the useless cube, would be nice if they also had even just some simple autotiling like cosmic
      But i know it's not that easy, as there are lot of choises to make, like how to treat pop up window, what windows to not tile by default, and many more
      But autotiling is made me use hyprland instead of kde. And also the semplicity of changing keybindings, and the fact that you can literally just save the config file, and you get the 100% same environment on a new computer.
      Kde has lots of configurations in config file, but unless you backup the entire .config folder, it's a mess to keep track of what files you need to save or not

  • @Clave238
    @Clave238 5 месяцев назад

    The setting at 15:24 seems to be working as intended but the name is far from clear. From what i've observed, it seems to refer to the cursor speed (in pixels traveled) needed for it to change between displays. If you set this to a low value, less cursor movement is required to change screens when reaching the border. If you set a high value, more movement is needed.
    If you set this value to... idk... 900px, and you move your mouse so slow that the cursor never jumps that amount of pixels on the screen, you will never change displays.
    But yeah, "Edge barrier" doesn't get that across imo.

  • @infinitivez
    @infinitivez 5 месяцев назад

    I'm afraid to switch. Nothing significant for me to switch FOR, just yet (I'm already on 6.0.5), unless they fixed the emojifier. (487250)
    Last time I updated KDE (from 5 to 6), my entire desktop went a bit wonky, and I lost all notification sounds. Still can't get a single sound to play to this day / no idea what's causing it. I've been told everything from notification sounds just don't work, to trying notify-send commands (which work). No one in the IRC channels seem to be much help / are just as confused as I am.

  • @somesalmon5694
    @somesalmon5694 4 месяца назад

    Freesync has been so awful on linux for quite a while. Its a monitor config issue for me, the rapid change from high to low framerate causes quick brightness changes leading to flicker :( i still am not sure how to fix it but would love to get help solving it

  • @hamburger--fries
    @hamburger--fries 5 месяцев назад

    Can you do a install guide on how you got BTOP to look so good with Alacrity? around 4:29 in the vid. Thanks!

  • @sylvershadow1247
    @sylvershadow1247 5 месяцев назад

    13:35 I checked my monitor's settings on my gaming PC with Tuxedo OS with Plasma Wayland and I have Adaptive Sync on (MSI MAG342CQR), and not seeing any flickers. Is it possible that its something on your side?

  • @sergeilunev2244
    @sergeilunev2244 5 месяцев назад

    Interesting. I thought the VRR flickering was because of lack of explicit sync patch.

  • @theepicosity
    @theepicosity 5 месяцев назад

    having adaptive sync on completely makes my desktop unusable for a few seconds whenever i open a program D: it flickers like crazyyy

  • @alexatkin
    @alexatkin 5 месяцев назад

    I finally upgraded to Fedora 40 after the last video. Generally really impressed with Plasma 6.1, it seems way more responsive than Plasma 5 which I thought was Wayland, but its just as fast on Xorg. Although Firefox is WAY smoother on Wayland, but I can't use Wayland until Synergy supports it. I do still have Compositing disabled though, as KWin was always less stable with it on in the past.
    The only thing that threw me is file previews disabled themselves after the upgrade, yet Dolphin still had Preview enabled. Seems odd to have the Preview button there if previews are disabled in settings. Left me thinking something was broken for a couple of days.

  • @pmcomputing2459
    @pmcomputing2459 5 месяцев назад

    The desktop cube seems somewhat broken on 6.1, I have to disable and reenable it after each use which didnt happen on 6.0+

    • @pmcomputing2459
      @pmcomputing2459 4 месяца назад

      6.1-1 is out and the cube issue seems to be fixed

  • @andreobarros
    @andreobarros 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly the shaking cursor think is kinda cool ngl. I would prob reduce the max size to like, twice or thrice the cursor size.
    Also since i barely use the mouse and often am using two monitors, it sure is nice to just quickly find it when i want.

  • @TheExileFox
    @TheExileFox 5 месяцев назад

    The freesync issue might be resolved by setting the monitor to the highest refresh rate it supports. I have this bug with a g-sync monitor.

  • @realmwatters2977
    @realmwatters2977 5 месяцев назад

    @Brodie Robertson how do the hell I switch off applications from launching that i had from last time I turned on my computer KDE 6.1

  • @thedevminer
    @thedevminer 5 месяцев назад

    How do we disable Adaptive Sync? I couldn't find anything on any forum about this...
    Edit: Found it, it's in the display settings.

  • @turtlefrog369
    @turtlefrog369 5 месяцев назад

    what about window transparency? is it working nicely in plasma 6? or reusing the desktop wallpaper. Windows terminal has option to use desktop wallpaper as background image. I wish more apps did that other wise i never see the desktop lol

  • @AlokMeshram
    @AlokMeshram 5 месяцев назад

    I have the "mouse feels like it's low framerate" issue, but in sway and hyprland, and instead of adaptive sync being the trigger, it was being in a high refresh rate (>120 Hz)!!!
    On plasma, the higher refresh rate causes a different problem - I get severe flickering artifacts on the right half of the screen. I thought it was an issue with the intel integrated gpu or the i915 driver.
    Brodie or anyone else reading this - If you create a bug about the adaptive sync issue, please post a link to it - I would love to add my issue as well.

  • @yusefaslam9675
    @yusefaslam9675 5 месяцев назад

    You noticed the cursor lag now? I've had this issue for ages lol, very annoying

  • @CorneliusCornbread
    @CorneliusCornbread 5 месяцев назад

    The freesync flicker bug is actually a hardware bug, some implementations of freesync are kinda crappy and when they're at the lower end of their freesync refresh range (the range that freesync can actually make the given frames smooth) will begin to flicker. I had a monitor that would do this on Windows in Unity's editor, insanely annoying, and it wasn't just me, there were many other's who's freesync displays would flicker too.
    My new monitors have never had this issue in Windows or Linux, there's likely a software workaround where you can disable freesync _before_ you get to the lower end of the freesync refresh range that would solve this.

    • @Tracenji
      @Tracenji 5 месяцев назад

      freesync flicker also seems to happen more on Nvidia, or at least it did back when Nvidia first enabled freesync support, but that could have changed, i haven't tried freesync on Nvidia in about 2 year

    • @CorneliusCornbread
      @CorneliusCornbread 5 месяцев назад

      @@Tracenji I'm not able to compare unfortunately, I've long since sold my old monitor but even still it was improved when I changed monitors. I wouldn't be surprised if NVIDIA's display sync protocol has/had teething issues.

    • @Tracenji
      @Tracenji 5 месяцев назад

      @@CorneliusCornbread yeah, it was an issue on some monitors but not others, i had a monitor with freesync flicker on Nvidia but when i changed to an AMD GPU it no longer flickered

  • @paullee107
    @paullee107 4 месяца назад

    LOL! I thought there was a limit to the cursor zoom, but yer right. Muahahaha just spent 10 minutes getting it bigger than my screens!!

  • @nikiiv
    @nikiiv 5 месяцев назад +4

    Can't believe people are so hung up on the "blurry" cursor

  • @anarchicnerd666
    @anarchicnerd666 5 месяцев назад

    ah, this is the big update Garuda got :D Linux newbie here and Garuda has been my first distro, the desktop is the Dr460ised version of Plasma and i got the update a few days ago. it works well overall, i'm partially blind so mouse shake is damn useful, and not having every option after selecting shut down or restart is a good change, i don't know if i'm gonna stick with it tho, wanna play around with Fedora and MATE a little XD

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd 5 месяцев назад

    5:17 That’s how I quit KDE Neon years ago. Bugs for days - from minor version update to the other they would introduce bugs and I got fed up with it. Now I use Gnome with a Ubuntu-based distro - I need work to do, I can’t afford breakages…

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 месяцев назад +2

      Neon is a essentially a niche KDE testing/development distro that is _supposed_ to break. Right now Fedora is the KDE distro for normies who want bleeding edge - updates are quick when they're relevant, but without becoming too unstable. It's on 6.1.1 already btw, that has bugfixes compared to what Brodie was reviewing

  • @Daimo83
    @Daimo83 4 месяца назад

    Windows 10 still has the right click menu bug. Funny how that's the same on both systems

  • @bhargavjitbhuyan9394
    @bhargavjitbhuyan9394 5 месяцев назад

    When will color management support come to plasma 6 wayland?

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 5 месяцев назад +2

    3:53 One time I made the bell the Windows 3.1/95 tada sound. (Used on Windows 3.1 startup and Windows 95 shutdown.) It definitely was a troll! 😂

  • @sylvershadow1247
    @sylvershadow1247 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hope Tuxedo updates it to 6.1.1, but so far I’m loving it on my gaming PC
    I can’t wait for COSMIC, gonna switch my laptop from Kubuntu to Pop!_OS once it’s almost ready.

  • @sprinklednights
    @sprinklednights 5 месяцев назад +6

    Waiting for Plasma 6.9.

    • @YaniX_3
      @YaniX_3 4 месяца назад

      Wouldnt ylu think that plama 6.6.6 will be better?

    • @sprinklednights
      @sprinklednights 4 месяца назад

      @@YaniX_3 No 69 funni number

  • @Kevin-sg8jq
    @Kevin-sg8jq 5 месяцев назад

    hows tilling on 6.1? i tried using polonium but it crashes my desktop sometimes

  • @maxanimator9547
    @maxanimator9547 5 месяцев назад

    they should at least scale the rasterised cursor in nearest neighbour mode rather than the blurry bilinear filter they're currently using

  • @Geo25rey
    @Geo25rey 5 месяцев назад

    I can finally switch from Gnome to Plasma. Plasma 6.1 is the first release that works with comparable performance to Gnome and without major crashes when running the Nouveau driver on RTX 2000+ series cards. Things are really coming together with Nouveau, nvk, and the mesa project as a whole for recent Nvidia cards. Between the GSP driver updates from kernel 6.7+ and this update to Plasma, Nvidia cards using Nouveau are becoming much more viable as a daily driver.

  • @Viirax
    @Viirax 5 месяцев назад +1

    11:10 honestly, I still want the old style power interface back. I'm so used to a single power button on my panel just opening old interface and then choosing either shutdown or reboot from there depending on what I want to do. It just looks better to have a single button on my panel, so at least having the option to use the old interface would be nice.
    On to a bug, I've noticed that if you use the Super key to open the app menu (start menu) then you can hold Super and press Ctrl to toggle open and close the menu. This is extremely annoying if you have any shortcuts that rely on both Super and Ctrl as you have to make sure to hit Ctrl first; in my case I use Super+Ctrl+"Arrow Key" to move windows to another screen, and I just end up moving the app menu to another screen if I hit Super before Ctrl.
    It also doesn't seem like old bug with Plasma Search where plugins aren't saved correctly and are reset on reboot is fixed yet. Personally it just feels like unnecessary clutter when I just want to search for my installed apps and it also shows system settings and stuff, so while not a massive thing I still find it annoying.

    • @sharp14x
      @sharp14x 5 месяцев назад +1

      You can have the full menu on a shortcut like CTRL+ALT+DELETE.

    • @Viirax
      @Viirax 5 месяцев назад

      @@sharp14x That's not really a valid replacement for being able to just click a button on my panel using the mouse though. I found a way to bring the old interface back (excluding the timer) but having to copy and modify a file to do it instead of just having a toggle in the settings is not great. It doesn't have to be default, just give people the option to choose.

  • @Rocky_the_Protogen
    @Rocky_the_Protogen 5 месяцев назад +3

    To fix a bug is to create two more

  • @sirgermaine
    @sirgermaine 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am so pumped for shake to grow cursor, I constantly lose track of the cursor, and I love this.

  • @okashiromi5541
    @okashiromi5541 5 месяцев назад

    Personally I kinda miss the all in one power menu... Let me just set a shortcut for one of them and Go from there.
    As for the edit mode jumping around, personally I think it's ok for the panel settings to cover the desktop (if that's open then it means you're not working on the desktop, especially now that the chances of misclicking the bar are low), as for the widget panel.... That's more up to discussion but you could make the panel retreat when you tak a widget out and come back when you hit a confirmation button that you're done with the widget. It'll probably be a more complicated thing to write tho

    • @turtlefrog369
      @turtlefrog369 5 месяцев назад

      yeah i agree whats the point of hiding the options.

  • @joseoncrack
    @joseoncrack 5 месяцев назад

    It's great. I've been using Plasma for a year now as my daily driver. 6.1 has a few nice improvements. The thing that sounded good but is actually very annoying, in a dual-monitor setup, is the cursor sticking to the screen border (common side between monitors) unless you move the cursor very fast. It sounded nice to be able to click on items that are close to the border more easily, but in practice, it gets very annoying when you move your cursors very often between monitors.
    The cursor hide on typing is great, and frankly. That's something that Windows have had for over 2 decades. It was about time.
    Regarding the cursor shake thing, it's nice when you have hi-dpi displays (you can sometimes lose track of it indeed!). Unfortunately, it's too sensitive IMO and I often get the enlarged cursor even when I don't intend to shake it, just by moving the cursor normally (it's probably worse when you use a high DPI setting for your mouse). The fact that the cursor is just a bitmap and looks not so good when magnified is not that bad - unless you use a cursor size that is already big relative to the resolution of your display, the aliasing is not that noticeable, and using this feature for lower resolution makes no sense.
    All in all, Plasma is the DE that has the most features of anything in existence, including Windows and macOS. The parts that would require more work are the "KDE applications", which are not all great. I use Okular as my main PDF reader, and it's good enough, but it still have annoyances, such as a very high RAM consumption (never seen a PDF reader that was so memory hungry, and I'm talking about the "normal" memory setting). It also still doesn't have more than 10 entries and in recent files, it's not configurable, and it still doesn't have any session (saving the list of currently open files and being able to restore it).

    • @mrgarlic2639
      @mrgarlic2639 5 месяцев назад

      You can configure the screen edge thing to be less sensitive by going to System Settings > Screen Edges > Edge Barrier! (I had to do this too)

    • @joseoncrack
      @joseoncrack 5 месяцев назад

      @@mrgarlic2639 Ah, thanks. One can disable it altogether. Otherwise, there's just one setting which is 100px by default (on my setup). What did you set it to to make it less "sensitive"?

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz 5 месяцев назад

      Okular is probably the best free PDF app period, there's nothing better even on windows. Afaik Gnome has some basic thing that's interchangeable with anything else

    • @mrgarlic2639
      @mrgarlic2639 4 месяца назад

      @@joseoncrack You can reduce the px in that settings menu, I have it set to 50.

  • @Ozzy_Helix_
    @Ozzy_Helix_ 5 месяцев назад

    I have been noticing screen flickering with adaptive sync set to Automatic but it only appears if I am looking at a screen share on rustdesk or if the thing I am looking at doesn't match the refresh rate of my screen as for the screen lagging I have experienced that as well and I've been able to fix it by logging in and out of my plasma desktop but it happens randomly that was happening on Plasma 6 and before tho. I am using a RX 7800 XT tho so maybe NVIDIA users now are experiencing the issues AMD users have had.

  • @SamuelDePauw
    @SamuelDePauw 5 месяцев назад

    I just installed kde 6.1.0 on my fedora 40 desktop. Since when is my blue yeti microphone a mouse XD. In settings if I go to my mouse settings by default it was using my microphone as mouse. I also want to know why my logitech g502 hero does still work even though it says that my blue yeti is my mouse now. XD

  • @v10-debug
    @v10-debug 5 месяцев назад +87

    i use arch btw

    • @marcusmeaney
      @marcusmeaney 5 месяцев назад +4

      typing this on arch rn

    • @ps3guy22
      @ps3guy22 5 месяцев назад +4

      i use arch btw jumpscare

    • @esra_erimez
      @esra_erimez 5 месяцев назад

      😁

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro 5 месяцев назад +2

      I use Neon btw

    • @par5ek
      @par5ek 5 месяцев назад +3

      really? wow! can I be your friend?
      and does it run crysis too?

  • @JEgkt
    @JEgkt 5 месяцев назад

    what do you guys use for autotiling in kde? In gnome i'm using forge extention similar to popshell. Auto tiling is an important feature for me and thats the only reason why im still gnome i'm not really a fan of gnome extension when gnome gets an upgrade, extensions gets broken like nvidia graphics switcher.

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  5 месяцев назад

      Nowadays either Polonium or Kronkhite which recently came back

    • @JEgkt
      @JEgkt 5 месяцев назад

      @@BrodieRobertson does that function exactly like forge?

  • @felixfourcolor
    @felixfourcolor 5 месяцев назад +17

    I'm a long time Gnome user. I tried KDE for the first time with 6.0, and I saw potential but I still preferred Gnome. I don't think 6.1 changes that much, so I'm gonna wait for 6.2 to try it again.

    • @Skibbehify
      @Skibbehify 5 месяцев назад +2

      I went cinnamon>KDE>Gnome & I also tried to go back to KDE but gnome just feels better like idk how to explain it.

    • @donaldc3884
      @donaldc3884 5 месяцев назад +5

      You have just enjoyed Gnomes workflow and thats what you prefer. I see this a lot like an android user getting their first apple phone... I am just the opposite, i have always preferred KDE and never liked Gnome, i use an android phone also. :)

    • @Skibbehify
      @Skibbehify 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@donaldc3884 the traditional desktop layout just does not feel right anymore.

    • @donaldc3884
      @donaldc3884 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Skibbehify I get it, im a tinkerer i guess is my thing, i like to mess with stuff...and KDE has ALL the stuff to mess with! I also just like KDE apps better, KDE connect... I am also over 50 and its familiar to my generation maybe? Actually the more i think about it, KDE just feels way more advanced. It really is.

    • @Skibbehify
      @Skibbehify 5 месяцев назад

      @@donaldc3884 I 100% agree with you that was the most fun about KDE was tinkering with ever little bit.

  • @ultimatetechcoding
    @ultimatetechcoding 5 месяцев назад +18

    team kirigami > team libadwaita (the libadwaita ones are just the kiddos who use single layout apps)

  • @claudemods
    @claudemods 4 месяца назад

    great work kde team keep doing what you do 6.2 looks gorgeous i couldnt fault your hard work like i did in the past you do what you do best no point judging what you do because you never fail to come through with greatness at the end of the day i wouldnt make an opinionated video since the internet already loves your hard work as much as i do and i know how hard it can be to create applications backends to applications and scripts as thats what i do daily

  • @Tobsson
    @Tobsson 5 месяцев назад

    I don't know why. Installed a fresh install of Kubuntu a few days ago. Played some game and a sudden freeze of the whole system. For some reason, the whole system broke. Couldn't boot back into it. As it was a fresh install I just installed Fedora again with Gnome, but something with KDE feels very janky.

    • @mmkthecoolest
      @mmkthecoolest 5 месяцев назад

      Kubuntu uses Plasma 5.27.11 currently while the latest for distros like Arch, Fedora and Neon is 6.1

    • @No-mq5lw
      @No-mq5lw 5 месяцев назад

      Kubuntu still uses the 5.27.X branch

  • @MarcoKrieger
    @MarcoKrieger 5 месяцев назад

    Plasma 6 and Wayland have made it impossible for me to use Manjaro KDE.
    There is no way to get my Wacom Tablet to work right now.
    Even people like David Revoy an French artist and Foss advocate had to switch from Fedora 40 to Debian, because that's the only distro left that ship's with the necessary drivers in its kernel.
    That's a huge No-Go at times when artists consider to jump on Linux because of the recall debacle from Microsoft and the EULA update from Adobe.
    Seems that Apple will make the cut.
    That's very bad timing for Linux.

  • @ragymahmoud4006
    @ragymahmoud4006 4 месяца назад

    How to make Obs shortcuts work in wayland ?

  • @everypizza
    @everypizza 5 месяцев назад +7

    i use lxqt btw

  • @VincentVonDudler
    @VincentVonDudler 5 месяцев назад

    Damn...I may be switching from Cinnamon. I will at least be trying it out. Last time it did feel unusable but I was on older hardware.

  • @dillbourne
    @dillbourne 5 месяцев назад

    We need a way to manually set the cursor size just for trolling purposes.

  • @estasnozes
    @estasnozes 5 месяцев назад

    The only problem I’ve encountered (I think it’s nvidia faults tho) is that xwayland crashes with some games

  • @eilamr9551
    @eilamr9551 5 месяцев назад +1

    5:00 what's that program called?

    • @tyfaspo
      @tyfaspo 5 месяцев назад

      Btop

    • @anafabula
      @anafabula 4 месяца назад

      btop running in Alacritty

  • @m4sterred853
    @m4sterred853 5 месяцев назад

    One bug I’ve come across a lot since I installed Plasma 6.1 is the screen locker just crashing, forcing me to lockctl unlock-session 2 from a tty.

    • @Reichstaubenminister
      @Reichstaubenminister 5 месяцев назад

      How does the crash look like? Does it restart a few times and then give you the option to select another window manager?

    • @m4sterred853
      @m4sterred853 5 месяцев назад

      @@Reichstaubenminister It throws the instructions (what I did) at you.

    • @justinwayland1390
      @justinwayland1390 5 месяцев назад

      Known issue, it'll be fixed in 6.1.1

  • @AClockworkHellcat
    @AClockworkHellcat 4 месяца назад

    the cursor was made by the same people who handled the cars in the GTA3 remaster