Running Pex water lines for the bathroom and shower
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- One of my favorite parts of renovating is running new pex. Some people prefer branch systems, but personally I'm in the home run camp. What that means is that every fixture gets a direct line from a manifold to the fixture. This ensures that everything gets the same amount of water, you minimize joints which minimizes points of failure and in the case of hot water you'll waste less and typically wait less for the hot water to flow.
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Great tutorial thanks for all you detail for us amateur plumbers
Thanks for this helpful tutorial, can't believe how neat and clean the pvc pipes are fitted, great job! hope to see more!!👍👍
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback!
LOL! was going to ask for your choice of shower valve, and * BAM!* 8:01 , u answered!
Glad I got ahead of you! :)
I like the background music 🎶
Finsihed wall should be half inch plus thinset and tile if you are doing shower.
The handheld wand can be hooked to the ceiling for rain head. So you don't need two shower heads or the extra plumbing.
It sure can, but luxury is often about excess and laziness. People enjoy not having to rig something when you can have a bigger better version built in.
With these new materials you will not need a plumber anymore.
Dead right. But when things go wrong, you do need a properly qualified & experienced plumber. I have had to sort out or even redo plenty of DIY installations in my time. But I'll always respect a tryer.
Well there are still the individuals that have never heard of a fitting and don't work with their hands and don't trust themselves as easy as it looks. Stuff still has to be lined up right for a proper connection only thing ya eliminate is a torch and Flux. The pipes in my house is all compression which doesn't require a plumber just a wrench and patience. Patience is also what many don't have
@@TheBmonster1 I'm too impatient to listen to your Babel. :)
Clean job 👍🏻
Nice keep sharing the info 👍
I'm so glad you liked it!
Make sure you put vibration spacers on your pex, wherever you plan on routing a hole for a pex line to run through it needs to be cushioned with a spacer. So that you don't run the risk of a gradual leak as the line bangs around and vibrates. Over time itll etch out just enough a gouge to leak. Or worst just bust wide open
I am just now starting to run a new home from a pex manifold. That is very good advice. Thank you.
Great advice. Those spacers are an absolute must!
I read this 2 days after completing all the pex 🤣 ive noticed some will squirt some foam around it? Thoughts
Just use a bigger piece of PEX pipe or old garden hose for this purpose. No need to buy extra junk when you have junk just laying around.
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
IDK. My folks have been in their home for 43 years with no plumbing issues yet with their copper pipes. The older I get, the shorter and shorter those 43 years seem. It would be tragic to have to tear out all the plumbing every 25, 30 years. Uponor poly only has a 25 year warranty!!!
Oh wow this is a fascinating comment, thank you! So yes Uponor "only" has a 25 year warranty. Almost all of the items in my home come with a 1 year warranty, but I don't expect them to fail at 1 year or or 14 months as you suggest with replacing plumbing at 25 to 30 years. Most things in a house that are faulty will fail in the first few years. Settling, pressure, vibration, use etc should cause a defective product to show itself pretty early on. That 25 year warranty is complete overkill. Heck if you're still the original owner after 24 years and you remember that the pipe had a 25 year warranty AND the failure was a defect and not due to some other failure that would be a near miracle.
I'd also like to point out that traditional copper pipe doesn't really come with any warranty. Most fittings and pipe itself has very little to show which manufacturer cast or extruded it. Those that are clearly marked are often wiped away with age as it's inked on. I'd love to see someone try to hunt down and hold liable any copper pipe company for a defect in their products and then prove that it wasn't the installers fault.
PEX has been around for nearly 60 years at this point and the technology is only getting better. I'll trust Uponor over copper any day! If you still have worries, check out some of Matt Risinger's videos. He's done 4-6 showing PEX vs PEX and PEX vs copper in pressure and freeze conditions proving that most good PEX pipe and Uponor specifically blow the pants off copper.
I noticed that there are no water hammer arrestors installed in the supply lines. Does the plumbing code allow these to be eliminated when using PEX tubing?
Correct, they were not required in my city. They may be elsewhere though.
Where can I buy that mixing valve and diverter. Does it come with the handles for the valve. Could you add links? Thank you.
Hi Carlos. I actually bought it all on Amazon. They had the best prices at the time. The trim is always separate I've added the links to the description above. Thanks for your question!
Thank you so much, that was so helpful. You’re awesome.
@@carloslizarazo5608 My pleasure!
How do you determine how deep the blocks on wood is to support the different fixtures?
A good question! The valves have instructions that will tell you how far they should stick out beyond the finished surface, so you just need to figure out how thick your tile, water proofing and substrate are and it'll give you the rest. It's not crucial to be exact there is a good bit of room to "err"
I have a master bath with a separate shower and tub. We’re replace burst copper pipes with pex. Is there an advantage to keeping this separate tub and shower on separate water lines? So the bathroom (ignoring the sinks) would have two colds and two hots. Or is it better to keep them on one and just tee off of it (one cold and one hot)
Most plumbing systems are teed off of another branch. The only benefit I can think of running a whole new branch would be if you have a tub that needs a lot of water to fill it. Or you’re in the habit of having the shower and the bath running at the same time, but even then you probably won’t notice much of a drop in pressure unless you have poor water pressure to begin with.
NICE JOB. TKS.
How would you like to drill all them holes? I counted, and there are exactly 47,221 holes.
netterstyl if you say so!
This was a great video, thank you.
Around 2:13 of the video you showed metal brackets and and plastic straps that snap into them, did you get these on amazon? I can't seem to find them.
Thanks !
They are a sharkbite product you can buy at Lowes. www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-2-Pack-1-2-in-to-1-2-in-dia-Plastic-Pex-Bend-Support/1000182869 But I don't recommend them, they are utter garbage. The bend supports didn't stay in the metal strapping very well and the whole thing was just very flimsy feeling. If you can stubout in copper do that, if you want to use pex fittings for your valves then maybe look at something more robust like this product. www.supplyhouse.com/Sioux-Chief-525-P2M1-Face-Plate-with-PEX-Bend-Support Supplyhouse.com is where I got the vast majority of my Pex supplies.
@@LivingInTransit1 Great info, thank you. I was about to install those plates
U can run pex right to the shower n tub? Thought u switch to copper there?
That's a great question! You can run it straight to both, but I would only run it to a shower valve myself. If you run the pex to a tub faucet the faucet itself will be rather wiggly and will flex. I would switch to at that point. For mixing valves though it works great!
What is the purpose of having a huge manifold like that? Wouldn't it be a lot more economical to Tee-off the main distribution for each fixture? Lol
Home-run manifold systems use the least hot water and the most pipe
A large-diameter (3/4 in.) main water line feeds the manifold; smaller lines run from the manifold to each fixture. Any fixture in the house can be shut off at the manifold. And because home-run systems don’t rely on a large pipe for distribution, you save both water and energy. Simply put, you don’t have to leave the faucet running as long before hot water reaches the sink. This design flexibility has a cost, however. Because a dedicated line is going to each fixture, you use a lot of PEX and might end up drilling a lot of holes. Since this house was on a 1,000 sq ft footprint and the manifold was almost in the center of the house it honestly didn't use much more pipe than a branch system. Pex is inexpensive, fittings are costly. Home-run systems use fewer fittings. For me though it really all came down to the beauty of being able to shut off an entire fixture like a circuit breaker. which I did many times as this renovation was done slowly over the course of nearly a decade.
@@LivingInTransit1 I understand your points but at that cost wouldn't it be more economical/better to have a recirc line? ive been a ticketed plumber for 12y and from my perspective see no advantage to having a water distribution system like this aside from being able to turn a fixture off from the manifold and not the actual fixture itself. Having 3/4" to the manifold and 1/2" to each fixture really limits the amount of water/volume each fixture has. Filling a bathtub on the other side of the house using that system would be painful.
@@77costa77 to each their own. There was not much additional cost and as there are no bathtubs and the furthest fixture from the manifold is less than 15 feet none of your points are really an issue.
Pink? I think you meant purple
Thinking.......... are you sure you're doing that.
Line for shower head is 3/4 ?. .can be 1/2 inch?
Sure. It can be 3/8 or 1/4 if you want. Larger line equals more water to the fixture. The smaller the line the less water.
Just curious , what is the shop vac doing on the drain? Is that a test or something? I’m a wanna be plumber. Lol
It was for a repair I did on a leaky joint. You can watch it here ruclips.net/video/oSDplKng2rk/видео.html
hello sir how do u measure to install support brace for shower system?
I'm not sure I understand. Are you asking how do I know where to place the 2x backer brace or something else?
@@LivingInTransit1 do i screw support bracket FLUSH with existing 2x4 , what im trying to do is make sure it fits when i install the backer board and tile
@@ginagvlogs2386 Ah I see what you're saying now. Well sadly I cannot answer that as it's unique to your mixing valve and how thick your backer and tile are. If you read the manual for your mixing valve it should give you the range of depth. It's a little forgiving, so you don't have to be exact.
A tape measure.
What shower faucet combo would you recommend
That is a question I really wouldn't even begin to be able to answer. The Delta brand models I got worked great but I don't know enough about all the brands out there to make decisions like that. Start with a look you like and then do some research and see if they are a good quality brand that will last or even have available parts for you if/when you need repairs.
@@LivingInTransit1 thank you for the prompt reply if like a model where it doesn't have the temperature adjustment just one where the lever goes all the way from hot to cold
Whats the name of the plug u used. Yellow item always used old shower arm with cap
If you google "Shower test plug" they will come up, here's one I found on Amazon
www.amazon.com/Jones-Stephens-H54050-Handi-Plug-Small/dp/B009YA1L1O/ref=asc_df_B009YA1L1O/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242112303984&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14518643461149130975&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061153&hvtargid=pla-717675402472&psc=1
I learned nothing. But thanks
I don’t think it says anywhere that you will learn something.
Of course you learned something, you learned he has nothing to teach you and then you call him "But thanks" why..? :)