If you are trying to push upwards of 700 whp. I will play it safe and rebuild the engine with cast iron sleeves. Forged rods, lower compression forged pistons. Also go for stroker kit to bump up the horsepower with the bigger turbo setup. The driveline also needs to be upgraded not just the gearbox. But also the diff since we are pushing well over 800 crank horsepower to it. Drag applications see tuner upgrade the half shafts and stronger prop shafts. If the chassis is similar to the 370Z. Those chassis bracing and suspension upgrades should be similar or just need small modifications to fit.
Unfortunately the VR30 is an open deck design. AMS has a video on their youtube channel that reveals they have a built motor that they converted to a closed deck so they could sleeve the block. They also claimed it will make 1000 horsepower, and said they want to have it in a new Z making 1000whp in the first 6 months of the car being released. Supposedly the prototype is already in their red alpha car. Haven't heard news of it at the track or on the dyno yet though. Performance shops are out of control lately and I love it.
Looking forward getting my hands on this Z. I'll be tracking mine so will focus more on chassis mods. 450rwhp will be more than enough for me with basic mods & a tune.
Great video, imo a JB4 is good enough for me. Most likely will add intakes, downpipes and exhaust just for some more noise. Not really looking at this car to be a numbers car but instead a fun daily with great power and a lot of fun that can be tracked but also be reliable.
@@chodkowski01 I'll most likely throw on lowering springs then coilovers in the future and a thicker swaybar. The car should be good enough for the track right out of the gate though
Wow! Amazing video. As a newcomer to car tuning and someone who is interested in the new Nissan Z, this is a fantastic video! Can you also do a similar video covering body kits for the Z? Thanks.
Very interesting Video! When I listened to your comparisons to other Modells I had an idea for a video 😅 I bought a 2014 GTR and want to do some maintenance by myself, thanks to your videos 😉 now, a video about what engine parts, gaskets, solenoids etc are the same from the 370Z or others to the GTR would be awesome. The reason is, that in my country I can’t buy GTR parts at the Nissan dealer, they exclusive to Nissan Performance centers, but I can buy Z parts there 😉
@@GTContent Depends on markups - Lotus says 5000 units for the Emira around 80k USD which isnt bad but with the chip shortage still going everything is 20 to 30% over sticker. I paid about 12k over sticker for the FK8 ....now they want 20k+ lol Had an LE on showroom for 100k+ Might wait a bit to pull trigger but the Emira with the M39 engine and 8 spd DCT fits me well ....but at 40k the Z is so cheap its hard to not save the money and just mod it lol Emira is just so rare, gorgeous and mid engined. I prefer it over the new NSX ....then Chevy just dropped the new Z06 ugh.....what the NSX should have been. Also crazy markups there too. My CTR will stay around 500ish whp for daily duty - weekend car should be a bit more special so tough to choose - might have to lease a few to decide. This is like the final days of ICE cars so I want to buy a classic before we are stuck with an EV
@@Asiansxsymbol from what I have seen building motors rwd cars are more like 20% drivetrain loss at the wheels (slightly less at the hubs) fwd or mid engine around the 15% mark. So his estimate is pretty much bang on.
Folks - We have ONE smart person here. Less = More. I'm upgrading tires, front swaybar, alignment, brakes, and enjoying the canyons 10 mins from my house that are not CLOGGED with prius/subaru drivers.
After I've seen the performance of Mines R34 on best motoring back in the day, 600-700whp has always been enough for me. Not really Into straight line speed, just need a strong mid range for the twisties
Great info. I’m def disappointed that it’s prob around $16-19k incl labor to get to 700whp…. It cost less than that to do a full supercharger with exhaust and tune on my s550 mustang to get to the same power numbers….
@@mayuravirus6134 What nissan said is the 9 speed is from the titan and probably the 6 speed's from the 370z and i saw that launch control on fb man this car is quick.
I have a q50 on my channel. Go racebox has 1000hp q50. Tuned full bolt on q50 beats a stock GTR all day. Also VPF tuning just came out with air to air kit for the vr30 also.
I just found you channel with the c8 engine video but I’m a Nismo lover my self. But I never been in any Nissan faster than a KA-E 240sx (which I owned) :(
FINALLY - a CLEAR video on the potential and ROI. Here's my plan: 1) Clear bra on the entire front half of the car because Nissan paint is almost as bad as Subaru. This has kept my 8+ year old Z looking amazing. 2) Ceramic Coating on the paint - I'm lost on why seemingly everyone WAY overthinks this part. If you can wash a car, you can do your own ceramic without paying some RETARDED $1100 cost these "Detail" shops seem to get off on. CarPro is around $80 for a basic entry level kit that lasts 12-24 months, or you can go baller status and go for some of the more expensive ceramics. Nissan paint from my experience is a pain to deal with, so if you want to save time/effort/money/frustration, get film and ceramic on it as quickly as possible from day one! Toyota/Lexus owners have it made...must be nice! I don't care how "fast" a car is, the FIRST thing I see on peoples vehicles is all of the lateral scratch marks and paint issues, to me the JUMP out and distract. 3) Tires - I'm guessing it's going to have the same $hit show Bridgestones, so those will work for "maybe" 6-8k miles before they start breaking loose on cold mornings, so PS4's, will be a no brainer for us SIMPLE folk that drive on public roads. I know everyone else here has a personal race dedicated race track in their backyards. Must be nice! 4) FRONT swaybar - Yes, FRONT ONLY! Fixes turn in, but retains stock rear end compliance. I did this on my 370z, and despite the TRILLIONS being blown on this so called "Infrastructure" bill, I hardly doubt any roads will see improvements, thus to retain most traction and compliance under power, you do want the rear to retain compliance. I would leave the rear stock unless it's going to be doing auto-x/track time. Hotchkis $150 was easily the best aftermarket modification to any car in my entire life, just that one front swaybar turned my Z from a pig to a pig on a diet...it's still no Cayman or 911 but it really improved turn in response. 5) Alignment - My 370z from the factory went through rear tires like nobodys biz... It took me a while to figure out why - the rear camber was off and at a stupid amount. Got that all dialed in and I don't feel like I gave up anything in terms of handling for PUBLIC roads where my car is 100% of the time. So when you get those expensive tires, get the "stupid" alignment, because tire costs will continue to rise due to inflation and the coordinated supply chain breakdown (it's on purpose, because it's more profitable). 6) Brakes - I don't care what anyone says! While the stock 4-piston "upgraded" Akebono's on paper are wonderful, you HAVE to upgrade the pads at a bare minimum. I would go one step further and get the Z1 2-Piece rotors. Mine have put up with 5+ years of abuse. 7) Window tint - It'll be interesting to see in person what the stock windows look like once in production. 8) Then all of the stage 1-2 mods discussed in this video - Personally I'd just stick with whatever is bolt on/simple/reliable on 91 octane and call it a day.
Slap on some coil overs, strut braces, possibly sway bars, good track tires, maybe cat back and Thunderhill/Sonoma raceway here I come. You don’t need much skill to go straight, but you need some balls to corner
this platform will see well over 1000+ the 9 speed is gonna be the icing on the cake for the vr30 the 7 speed held back the true performance for a while now we get to see what the vr30 can really do.
After all this I am thinking of a coyote with a hellion kit. Seems more bang for your buck or even a stinger you can get 800 whp at less a cost and that is awd. The real question comes down to usable power and handling. I like to take twisting mountain roads as a form of relaxation so while have to take a spirited test drive before any final decisions are made
The Q50 wasn't really promoted as such because historically coupes never sold well. You're right though, this is kinda premature. Yes, same engine but there have been plenty of fixes that Nissan "says" they have implemented going into the new "Z". Slight criticism, just say losses the next time "negative gains" comes up. Sorta doesn't make sense and adds where it doesn't need to.
I have heard rumors that the VR30 motor has reliability issues and that it isn’t uncommon for the first owner to use the power train warranty for an engine replacement after 40,000 miles. Can anyone confirm if the engine is worth it when it’s out of warranty?
Here is what you didn't take into consideration when quoting those figures, the HP/TQ output in a manual vs an auto. The known numbers are from an auto trans. That 7sp auto trans isn't the most efficient either and it's am auto. So the car might very well be able to put down at least 900hp or higher
I believe Nissan is tweaking the VR30 to put out way more power than advertised in the Z. Borrowing the same method of the German automakers. Why else would they take so long to release it? They’re making sure the Z outguns the Supra.
The VR30DDTT is already underrated in the Q50/Q60 with it's 7-speed automatic. With a 6-speed manual, it should produce more power because of less drivetrain losses. We'll see if Nissan gives the Z larger turbos to distinguish it from the Q50/Q60.
@@rezanassib7126 Probably just a theoretical 5-10hp from a Nismo exhaust. The VR30DDTT is pretty maxed out stock if it uses the same turbos as the Q60.
I can't get passed the front. I just looks way too plain and I hate the headlights. I would have considered it if the front looked as good as the rear.
I can live with it. I never was in love with the CHROME headlights on the 370z, but over time, Jim, as vehicles around become uglier, the Z seems to age/grow with class because of it's simplicity. It's truly like a breath of fresh air on the road because all of these BETA males have bought SUV's/CUV's, so the Z just sticks out in a good way.
I’m alright with it. It looks pretty good in person I think. Also it’s a Z so it will probably have a lot of aftermarket body support and different bumpers.
Nismo is typically just suspension, body kit, wheels, interior and exhaust. The extra power increase may come from the exhaust and a slight increase in boost. Yes, it's probably going to be similar.
For 97% of my driving it might be ok but downpipes, cbe, tune, heat exchangers not only gives insane dollar to hp gain ratio but also that nice drop in underhood temps, better exhaust note and
@@rymeliawatson9509 if you purely want to tune a car that wont be the car. buying a brand to car just to tune that a naaaa. buying a older car to tune is more worth your money. its about money vs HP that what i see when tuning. unless u have ton of money then that dont matter what you get.
@@not4younot4you70 my point still stands. buying corvette and spend more money to tune it it's gonna be roughly the same, and the vette is roughly the same, maybe having a bit more hp than the Z depends on the model
@@rymeliawatson9509 only a fool will buy a brand new car for tuning to get to 600hp lol. buy a K motor and tune it get more then 600hp. lose all warranty if something happen to the motor or transmission bla bla bla. Like i said only rich MF can do that. normal people will only buy what they can afford.
@@not4younot4you70 isn't that what the tuners these days are? spending money on a car to make it faster? it's how THEY want not you, anything can be fast if there's money for it, same goes for these new cars, or old shitboxes, so your point once again, useless
Stillen and AMS rebuilt the Q50 Red Sport, and the crank is cheap and cracks with over 500hp. So you can only add 100hp and then you got to rebuild the engine with a stroker kit to produce 500-800hp. Stillen built a 700hp Q50 and AMS built a 800hp engine. Research their builds. And the intercoolers are NOT water cooled. Water cooled has a seperate water reservor and electric water pump, and you can put ICE in the reservor. No, this Z has hot radiator coolant circulating threw these hot intercoolers that is close to 200deg temp. These stock intercoolers are trash. So 98% will not have over 500hp on their new Z, unless you're a mechanic that owns a Z. You need a car lift to drop that engine. Engine has to be removed to upgrade turbos on all Z cars.
I don't care about HP, max tq at 1800 rpm is all I need! it's the perfect basis for my new streetable drift car! Straightline speed is for fools on the street
I’m having a hard time between tlx type s or this Z. Of course GTR but that’s to rich for my blood. They are both great looking cars but I just want something pure Japanese.
Two different cars and purposes. There's also a $10-15k price difference. The Z is a sportscar while the TLX is a sport sedan. Performance should be better with the Z.
@@GTContent My buddy just picked up a 2021 GTR. That thing is sweet. I don’t want a American car. I wish the Japanese would do something to rival the mustang 5.0 and all the American cars I hate at a affordable cost. GTR or NSX out of the price range. That’s why I ride, 10s all day no mods for less than a super car but not the same feeling as having a badass car.
I love the TLX type s but I want a pure sports car from Japan. I wrench on my own cars. I’m not scared to take motors out of any these cars. I have a 2000 integra gsr I’m keeping that car forever, it just has a special place in my heart. I wish when they brought that new integra out they would have retro the 90 classic.
@@GTContent It's going to be JATCO again.... so it lets hope they fixed the flexdisk as the main failure points. Also, on the 6-speed, I'm hoping Nissan has fixed the CSC issue that nearly ever 6-Speed owner has had to deal with.
Come on! Who expects any 3 liter 6 cylinder engine to make 1000hp without internal engine mods? Lol. Bottom line is,to get more power and go faster,theres no way around it, money is what it takes. Its basically how much you can spend.
@@GTContent not even a RB or 2jz is going to last long at 1000hp with the factory stock internals. 1000hp with the stock internals is sketchy even for the VR38.
@@conradsealy9603 I agree. There's sometimes a stigma that goes with an engine that it is untouchable. Of course, it's mostly not the case, that is why we have to bring it to light.
700+ is not realistic without solid deck block or sleeves, etc and a whole lot of supporting mods. Basically tons of money. Just stick to the 500 zone and be done with it, u want something faster buy something with a solid deck block or a Tesla. The cost when you factor in all the extras means you could of just bought one of those platforms instead. It was about 35k in parts and ‘some’ labor to get my 350z to hit 1004 whp but it still needed more supporting mods for more stability and tons more money. ruclips.net/video/8vnHdrOs-34/видео.html sure it was fun but I played that open deck block game and wouldn’t recommend it.
@@GTContent np, easily one of the best no bs let’s look at the costs and parts/mods vids out there. Having done the journey I can’t say I wouldn’t rather just buy a new Tesla and run 9’s while also auto piloting my ass back home while troll posting on my350z 🤣
Might need a a bigger tire with the smallest wheel that will still accommodate the factory rear brakes in the upper hp range if you choose to go to the drag strip
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This blueprint is amazing! Now all I need is the money to get the Z to begin with 😂
I hope you get it bro
@@cosmic_gate476 I hope you get one too!
Hope yall get one got my proto spec !
If you are trying to push upwards of 700 whp. I will play it safe and rebuild the engine with cast iron sleeves. Forged rods, lower compression forged pistons. Also go for stroker kit to bump up the horsepower with the bigger turbo setup.
The driveline also needs to be upgraded not just the gearbox. But also the diff since we are pushing well over 800 crank horsepower to it. Drag applications see tuner upgrade the half shafts and stronger prop shafts.
If the chassis is similar to the 370Z. Those chassis bracing and suspension upgrades should be similar or just need small modifications to fit.
Thanks for the additional information.
Unfortunately the VR30 is an open deck design. AMS has a video on their youtube channel that reveals they have a built motor that they converted to a closed deck so they could sleeve the block. They also claimed it will make 1000 horsepower, and said they want to have it in a new Z making 1000whp in the first 6 months of the car being released. Supposedly the prototype is already in their red alpha car. Haven't heard news of it at the track or on the dyno yet though. Performance shops are out of control lately and I love it.
@@ragingpacifist2074 how much would building the motor to become closed deck cost?
Honestly respect you giving the exact amount damn near that’s realistic and helps a lot you the goat 🐐
Looking forward getting my hands on this Z. I'll be tracking mine so will focus more on chassis mods. 450rwhp will be more than enough for me with basic mods & a tune.
Great video, imo a JB4 is good enough for me. Most likely will add intakes, downpipes and exhaust just for some more noise. Not really looking at this car to be a numbers car but instead a fun daily with great power and a lot of fun that can be tracked but also be reliable.
Maybe with suspension modifications you can track it.
@@chodkowski01 I'll most likely throw on lowering springs then coilovers in the future and a thicker swaybar. The car should be good enough for the track right out of the gate though
Wow! Amazing video. As a newcomer to car tuning and someone who is interested in the new Nissan Z, this is a fantastic video!
Can you also do a similar video covering body kits for the Z?
Thanks.
I'll probably wait until it comes out so there are more options. Thank you for watching.
Ditto! Subbed.
Great video, thank you! Keep Z-related stuff coming out!
Very interesting Video!
When I listened to your comparisons to other Modells I had an idea for a video 😅
I bought a 2014 GTR and want to do some maintenance by myself, thanks to your videos 😉 now, a video about what engine parts, gaskets, solenoids etc are the same from the 370Z or others to the GTR would be awesome. The reason is, that in my country I can’t buy GTR parts at the Nissan dealer, they exclusive to Nissan Performance centers, but I can buy Z parts there 😉
Great vid - straight forward content to bring folks up to speed on the VR30DETT
Thank you for watching.
@@GTContent Im considering an Emira or new Z and appreciate content like this. Miss my old 350z revup lol
@@TheFK8Life Cool. Let me know what you decide on.
@@GTContent Depends on markups - Lotus says 5000 units for the Emira around 80k USD which isnt bad but with the chip shortage still going everything is 20 to 30% over sticker. I paid about 12k over sticker for the FK8 ....now they want 20k+ lol Had an LE on showroom for 100k+
Might wait a bit to pull trigger but the Emira with the M39 engine and 8 spd DCT fits me well ....but at 40k the Z is so cheap its hard to not save the money and just mod it lol
Emira is just so rare, gorgeous and mid engined. I prefer it over the new NSX ....then Chevy just dropped the new Z06 ugh.....what the NSX should have been. Also crazy markups there too.
My CTR will stay around 500ish whp for daily duty - weekend car should be a bit more special so tough to choose - might have to lease a few to decide. This is like the final days of ICE cars so I want to buy a classic before we are stuck with an EV
AMS has a built +800whp VR30DETT. AMS also believes that motor can make a 1000whp.. they are just working on reliability.
800 to the wheels? That's right around almost 1000hp at the crank
theres already a 1000hp vr30 motor (not by ams)
@@mayuravirus6134 800whp is only about 900 bhp. 🙄
@@Asiansxsymbol from what I have seen building motors rwd cars are more like 20% drivetrain loss at the wheels (slightly less at the hubs) fwd or mid engine around the 15% mark. So his estimate is pretty much bang on.
If the Z eventually comes with a manual AWD option, I will definitely purchase one!
This was an excellent video bro!!
Thanks!
stock, the Z looks fun enough. especially for me coming from a stock 04 g35. any newer generation G/Z is worth it 😂
A solid video one thing left unmentioned for the 4k kit is that cars are making monster torque figures usually 450hp/500+ torque.
Thanks for the additional information.
great informational video
i plan on upgrading the heat exchangers and probably the exhaust and thats about it.
Folks - We have ONE smart person here. Less = More. I'm upgrading tires, front swaybar, alignment, brakes, and enjoying the canyons 10 mins from my house that are not CLOGGED with prius/subaru drivers.
Thanks for sharing 🙌
After I've seen the performance of Mines R34 on best motoring back in the day, 600-700whp has always been enough for me. Not really Into straight line speed, just need a strong mid range for the twisties
Great info. I’m def disappointed that it’s prob around $16-19k incl labor to get to 700whp…. It cost less than that to do a full supercharger with exhaust and tune on my s550 mustang to get to the same power numbers….
Different cars with different engines, bro. 3L V6 TT vs 5L V8. Factory turbo cars are expensive to uograde.
$16-$19,000 just to get to 700 hp. What’s the price to get to 1,000 hp like you claim?
Labor!?
Tf
The first round of upgrades is the sweet spot for me, around 100whp for $4.3k.
not a single dislike! good content ma man 😀👍
The auto probably handles more torque but less hp than the 6 speed.
Well the thing is Nissan CD transmission are the powerhouse where people found out that it can hold a lot of torque and power
@@mayuravirus6134 What nissan said is the 9 speed is from the titan and probably the 6 speed's from the 370z and i saw that launch control on fb man this car is quick.
Bruh, that’s not how it works 🤣 transmissions are only rated by torque
bruh
@@jeffreyxiong205 does it have launch 🚀 control? Like Nissan GTR?
I have a q50 on my channel. Go racebox has 1000hp q50. Tuned full bolt on q50 beats a stock GTR all day. Also VPF tuning just came out with air to air kit for the vr30 also.
I wish the Z came as a 2+2 ttop. I would buy it in a heartbeat
Great video.
I just found you channel with the c8 engine video but I’m a Nismo lover my self. But I never been in any Nissan faster than a KA-E 240sx (which I owned) :(
My first car was a 1989 240SX w/KA24E. It was a great handling car and I loved it for that.
Great video! I was considering the new 400z but nope…
Great info!
I WANT THAT ZEE !!!! LOVE IT
The 480 pump/510 E85 hp is perfect along with suspension upgrades and dropping more weight....that would put it in the Porsche GT4 RS category.
Upgrade fueling
Flex fuel sensor
Intercooler upgrade
Tune
Turn boost up high as you can safely
New Z comes with adaptive suspension to even handle 400hp around corners or requires stiffer suspension immediately?
Thanks for the vid. In my opinion thats way to expensive to get big power. Saw your GT-R in the background thought you sold it?
No. Still have it.
I sold my ND2 Miata RF Club in anticipation of this car coming out. I need it here now! LOL
Was going for the nd2 cuz I want something fun, but will wait for the Z for sure
@@GJCcontent the ND2 was fun in the tight turns but not enough power in the straight.
FINALLY - a CLEAR video on the potential and ROI.
Here's my plan:
1) Clear bra on the entire front half of the car because Nissan paint is almost as bad as Subaru. This has kept my 8+ year old Z looking amazing.
2) Ceramic Coating on the paint - I'm lost on why seemingly everyone WAY overthinks this part. If you can wash a car, you can do your own ceramic without paying some RETARDED $1100 cost these "Detail" shops seem to get off on. CarPro is around $80 for a basic entry level kit that lasts 12-24 months, or you can go baller status and go for some of the more expensive ceramics. Nissan paint from my experience is a pain to deal with, so if you want to save time/effort/money/frustration, get film and ceramic on it as quickly as possible from day one! Toyota/Lexus owners have it made...must be nice! I don't care how "fast" a car is, the FIRST thing I see on peoples vehicles is all of the lateral scratch marks and paint issues, to me the JUMP out and distract.
3) Tires - I'm guessing it's going to have the same $hit show Bridgestones, so those will work for "maybe" 6-8k miles before they start breaking loose on cold mornings, so PS4's, will be a no brainer for us SIMPLE folk that drive on public roads. I know everyone else here has a personal race dedicated race track in their backyards. Must be nice!
4) FRONT swaybar - Yes, FRONT ONLY! Fixes turn in, but retains stock rear end compliance. I did this on my 370z, and despite the TRILLIONS being blown on this so called "Infrastructure" bill, I hardly doubt any roads will see improvements, thus to retain most traction and compliance under power, you do want the rear to retain compliance. I would leave the rear stock unless it's going to be doing auto-x/track time. Hotchkis $150 was easily the best aftermarket modification to any car in my entire life, just that one front swaybar turned my Z from a pig to a pig on a diet...it's still no Cayman or 911 but it really improved turn in response.
5) Alignment - My 370z from the factory went through rear tires like nobodys biz... It took me a while to figure out why - the rear camber was off and at a stupid amount. Got that all dialed in and I don't feel like I gave up anything in terms of handling for PUBLIC roads where my car is 100% of the time. So when you get those expensive tires, get the "stupid" alignment, because tire costs will continue to rise due to inflation and the coordinated supply chain breakdown (it's on purpose, because it's more profitable).
6) Brakes - I don't care what anyone says! While the stock 4-piston "upgraded" Akebono's on paper are wonderful, you HAVE to upgrade the pads at a bare minimum. I would go one step further and get the Z1 2-Piece rotors. Mine have put up with 5+ years of abuse.
7) Window tint - It'll be interesting to see in person what the stock windows look like once in production.
8) Then all of the stage 1-2 mods discussed in this video - Personally I'd just stick with whatever is bolt on/simple/reliable on 91 octane and call it a day.
The older I get the more I prefer as close to stock/simple and easy mods.
Great plan!👍🏼
I'm all in if they do an awd nismo version
That would be awesome but I doubt it because that would be creeping up on gtr territory for almost 1/3 the cost.
They confirmed the Nismo Version. So yeah, it's gonna be a GT-R Junior probably.
@@KazuIza they confirmed an AWD nismo?
Slap on some coil overs, strut braces, possibly sway bars, good track tires, maybe cat back and Thunderhill/Sonoma raceway here I come. You don’t need much skill to go straight, but you need some balls to corner
Can you do a whole series on past cars as well as upcoming cars, basically giving a blueprint to any car or build preference
I've got the Nissan GTR coming 😉
this platform will see well over 1000+ the 9 speed is gonna be the icing on the cake for the vr30 the 7 speed held back the true performance for a while now we get to see what the vr30 can really do.
the car for street use be good enough with an exhaust, intake and a tune..maintains that low end response and avoid it from trying to kill you..😅😅
After all this I am thinking of a coyote with a hellion kit. Seems more bang for your buck or even a stinger you can get 800 whp at less a cost and that is awd. The real question comes down to usable power and handling. I like to take twisting mountain roads as a form of relaxation so while have to take a spirited test drive before any final decisions are made
Can't wait to get my hands on one
Is that the exact cost to the dollar to the penny to get 700 horses other 400z 2023?
You didnt put ams air filters into the equation, those are the only ones that showed hp gain accross the board and are use as upgrades by infiniti
😩 Damn ownership cost of the VR30 is a nightmare not to mention wenching on it.
I'll stick to the VQ37 and supercharge it.
The Q50 wasn't really promoted as such because historically coupes never sold well. You're right though, this is kinda premature. Yes, same engine but there have been plenty of fixes that Nissan "says" they have implemented going into the new "Z". Slight criticism, just say losses the next time "negative gains" comes up. Sorta doesn't make sense and adds where it doesn't need to.
Isn't the new Z flex fuel stock? Wonder if the 9AT can handle 500 wtq.
I don't recall. The 9AT should be similarly to the one in the Titan/Frontier. Let's hope so.
@@GTContent if it's the same one in the TitanXD then we are in luck.
@@GTContent I'm on my 2nd transmission from Jatco, so...I won't be the ginnea pig this round. It's 6-speed and new clutches for me.
B58 all day baby 👌🏽
The dealers should ADD all of this before marking it up.
500hp is more than enough.
or do most of these parts at once and be happy with the power and save 1700 in tunes.
I seriously think the base model should have kept the 3.7 engine natural aspiration....and the top trims have the turbos on 3.5ltr or 3.7ltr....
I have heard rumors that the VR30 motor has reliability issues and that it isn’t uncommon for the first owner to use the power train warranty for an engine replacement after 40,000 miles. Can anyone confirm if the engine is worth it when it’s out of warranty?
I’m happy with 700 hp. Goooo z
Do you think the new Z will be tall people friendly? Like can someone 6'6" fit in there comfortably?
If you can fit in a 370Z, then it'll be similar since they're using the same chassis.
@@GTContent Dang I guess that means I'll have to stick to Muscle Cars then lol.
@@RaceCarFriends 😂
@@RaceCarFriends Just drive big trucks and SUVs, bro. 🙀🤣
@@Asiansxsymbol That's what the wife keeps telling me but I'm determined to fit into these small sports cars lol.
Twin 2.5" exhausts is more than enough.
Man It only took about 7k to get my v6 mustang up to 600rwhp. I'm still getting the z though it was my dream car since I was a kid
It should definitely be forbidden to say something like "negative gains"! It's a loss... just call it a loss.
Thanks for the video! Very informative. I'm looking to install turbo in my 07 Acura tsx. Can u recommend a good shop for that build?
Here is what you didn't take into consideration when quoting those figures, the HP/TQ output in a manual vs an auto. The known numbers are from an auto trans. That 7sp auto trans isn't the most efficient either and it's am auto. So the car might very well be able to put down at least 900hp or higher
I did. Go back and listen closely. 😉
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I believe Nissan is tweaking the VR30 to put out way more power than advertised in the Z. Borrowing the same method of the German automakers. Why else would they take so long to release it? They’re making sure the Z outguns the Supra.
The VR30DDTT is already underrated in the Q50/Q60 with it's 7-speed automatic. With a 6-speed manual, it should produce more power because of less drivetrain losses. We'll see if Nissan gives the Z larger turbos to distinguish it from the Q50/Q60.
Now that the specs are out and the supra spanked the Z in a 1/4 mi drag race, i guess nissan cheapened out.
how bout mazda 2021 2.5l turbo?
I’ll just stick with my $5k in mods for my b58 for 600whp. Too much work and money for high power vr30.
enjoyed the vid.
curious what a dollar for dollar comparison for modding the zupr4 vs the z and the hp output...that may be a good video
The comparison is in the works.
I have already made one for the Supra B58: ruclips.net/video/bMEkhLdC0N8/видео.html
Great video. What would Nismo do with the Z?
Probably the same thing they've done in the past...Bodykit, suspension, interior pieces, wheels & catback.
@@GTContent Would the Nismo version potentially get any HP increase?
@@rezanassib7126 Probably just a theoretical 5-10hp from a Nismo exhaust. The VR30DDTT is pretty maxed out stock if it uses the same turbos as the Q60.
Will Jim Wolf ever tune ECU’s again LMAO
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I can't get passed the front. I just looks way too plain and I hate the headlights. I would have considered it if the front looked as good as the rear.
I can live with it. I never was in love with the CHROME headlights on the 370z, but over time, Jim, as vehicles around become uglier, the Z seems to age/grow with class because of it's simplicity. It's truly like a breath of fresh air on the road because all of these BETA males have bought SUV's/CUV's, so the Z just sticks out in a good way.
I’m alright with it. It looks pretty good in person I think. Also it’s a Z so it will probably have a lot of aftermarket body support and different bumpers.
How much would 7:00 make with e100?
A twin disk will not be required to handle 600whp lol. Fresh kicks is on a Stage 3 6 puck pushing around 800whp on his Z
Lol! I think 400hp should be more than adequate unless you are into drag race competitions.
I want the z 2023 model so bad
Wont be doing downpipes in California anymore. Rest of the country not far behind unfortunately.
Real numbers being told here. That car will cost $50,000 minimum to get it out the showroom door.
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U think it will be the same if they come out with a nismo version
Nismo is typically just suspension, body kit, wheels, interior and exhaust. The extra power increase may come from the exhaust and a slight increase in boost.
Yes, it's probably going to be similar.
This video was so amazing and informative but so Unuseful I could barely afford the z any more is out of my tax bracket 😂😂
i think AMS also makes an intake manifold for this engine
Yes. AMS makes an air intake kit, but at ~$600, the performance/dollar isn't worth the small gains
I think I'd be happy with stock as a daily car
When I see the 400z I see a car that just begs to be modded . That’s why I’m so hyped for it
For 97% of my driving it might be ok but downpipes, cbe, tune, heat exchangers not only gives insane dollar to hp gain ratio but also that nice drop in underhood temps, better exhaust note and
I'd be more than happy with 550 hp.
Love the back of the car but not liking the headlights. They should have went retro
I think this is a decent compromise assuming they can't use a more retro headlights for some reason.
Well if you add up the amount of money you just said would it wiser to buy a Corvette?
buy a corvette and using another part of the money to upgrade the car, same stuffs, besides, where's the fun in that? tuning is also a hobby so yea
@@rymeliawatson9509 if you purely want to tune a car that wont be the car. buying a brand to car just to tune that a naaaa. buying a older car to tune is more worth your money. its about money vs HP that what i see when tuning. unless u have ton of money then that dont matter what you get.
@@not4younot4you70 my point still stands. buying corvette and spend more money to tune it it's gonna be roughly the same, and the vette is roughly the same, maybe having a bit more hp than the Z depends on the model
@@rymeliawatson9509 only a fool will buy a brand new car for tuning to get to 600hp lol. buy a K motor and tune it get more then 600hp. lose all warranty if something happen to the motor or transmission bla bla bla. Like i said only rich MF can do that. normal people will only buy what they can afford.
@@not4younot4you70 isn't that what the tuners these days are? spending money on a car to make it faster? it's how THEY want not you, anything can be fast if there's money for it, same goes for these new cars, or old shitboxes, so your point once again, useless
The headlights look like the BRZ headlights.
Stillen and AMS rebuilt the Q50 Red Sport, and the crank is cheap and cracks with over 500hp. So you can only add 100hp and then you got to rebuild the engine with a stroker kit to produce 500-800hp. Stillen built a 700hp Q50 and AMS built a 800hp engine. Research their builds. And the intercoolers are NOT water cooled. Water cooled has a seperate water reservor and electric water pump, and you can put ICE in the reservor. No, this Z has hot radiator coolant circulating threw these hot intercoolers that is close to 200deg temp. These stock intercoolers are trash. So 98% will not have over 500hp on their new Z, unless you're a mechanic that owns a Z. You need a car lift to drop that engine. Engine has to be removed to upgrade turbos on all Z cars.
The transmission will definitely be leagues better than the 7speed
Engine cc is slightly bigger than the red sport’s.
Yeah of course my dude, 400 hp wasn't already dangerous enough in Canadian winters 😂
I don't care about HP, max tq at 1800 rpm is all I need! it's the perfect basis for my new streetable drift car! Straightline speed is for fools on the street
I have a q50 redsport and I can't imagine my car being 500 lbs lighter it already flys.
So much money to barely go anywhere 😭😮💨
Wooow I can’t wait to a new Z 😀. … actually I’m a Supra fan but it an bmw 🙁
I cant get the idea to swap a VR38DETT into the new Z.... But at that point why not just get a GTR...🤣
I’m having a hard time between tlx type s or this Z. Of course GTR but that’s to rich for my blood. They are both great looking cars but I just want something pure Japanese.
Two different cars and purposes. There's also a $10-15k price difference. The Z is a sportscar while the TLX is a sport sedan. Performance should be better with the Z.
@@GTContent My buddy just picked up a 2021 GTR. That thing is sweet. I don’t want a American car. I wish the Japanese would do something to rival the mustang 5.0 and all the American cars I hate at a affordable cost. GTR or NSX out of the price range. That’s why I ride, 10s all day no mods for less than a super car but not the same feeling as having a badass car.
I love the TLX type s but I want a pure sports car from Japan. I wrench on my own cars. I’m not scared to take motors out of any these cars. I have a 2000 integra gsr I’m keeping that car forever, it just has a special place in my heart. I wish when they brought that new integra out they would have retro the 90 classic.
The upper "downpipe" is called turbo elbow
UR MOM ELBOW. How's that?
This video doesn't mention anything about labor cost. The average car enthusiast ends up paying for labor.
Labor costs will vary, hence the + after the estimated part price. Best method is to call your local shop and find out or DIY.
@@GTContent The best method would be to buy a Tesla Plaid and call it a day xD
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There were rumours early on that the 9 speed was a merc gearbox. Have we had any confirmation on it?
Not sure about Mercedes, but Jatco manufactures it.
@@GTContent It's going to be JATCO again.... so it lets hope they fixed the flexdisk as the main failure points. Also, on the 6-speed, I'm hoping Nissan has fixed the CSC issue that nearly ever 6-Speed owner has had to deal with.
Come on! Who expects any 3 liter 6 cylinder engine to make 1000hp without internal engine mods? Lol. Bottom line is,to get more power and go faster,theres no way around it, money is what it takes. Its basically how much you can spend.
You'd be surprised 🤓
@@GTContent not even a RB or 2jz is going to last long at 1000hp with the factory stock internals. 1000hp with the stock internals is sketchy even for the VR38.
@@conradsealy9603 I agree. There's sometimes a stigma that goes with an engine that it is untouchable. Of course, it's mostly not the case, that is why we have to bring it to light.
I'm surprised that it only costs $13K to make a 800 bhp car. I always thought it was more. 😎
700+ is not realistic without solid deck block or sleeves, etc and a whole lot of supporting mods. Basically tons of money. Just stick to the 500 zone and be done with it, u want something faster buy something with a solid deck block or a Tesla. The cost when you factor in all the extras means you could of just bought one of those platforms instead. It was about 35k in parts and ‘some’ labor to get my 350z to hit 1004 whp but it still needed more supporting mods for more stability and tons more money. ruclips.net/video/8vnHdrOs-34/видео.html sure it was fun but I played that open deck block game and wouldn’t recommend it.
I agree. Thanks for your insight.
@@GTContent np, easily one of the best no bs let’s look at the costs and parts/mods vids out there. Having done the journey I can’t say I wouldn’t rather just buy a new Tesla and run 9’s while also auto piloting my ass back home while troll posting on my350z 🤣
Well I prefer to VR38DETT swap it
Minimum 3" exhaust? Really?
Minimum 3" = Get an exhaust thats is 3" or larger.
@@GTContent Yes I understand what words mean, I was curious as to if a 3.5 or 4 is really needed.
Says Q50 red sport advertises a Q60 lmao
Might need a a bigger tire with the smallest wheel that will still accommodate the factory rear brakes in the upper hp range if you choose to go to the drag strip
It’s not necessary… I’ve seen low 9 seconds cars on 19s and 20s pulling 1.5 60ft 🤣 the tires available in this day and age is absolutely ridiculous
@@Texas_Road_Warrior 315 pilot cups on prepped tracks get smoked
So far they’re handling 750hp