Even though it’s difficult I keep faith because I know God will change my situation. I trust in you Father and keep faith even as I struggle to take care of my children. I’m so ashamed. The past two years have been hard on me. I’m a single mom. I suffered an heart attack and I’m battling lupus. Both of my sons are autistic and to be honest Heavenly Father I’m so overwhelmed. I’m constantly struggling financially to buy groceries and struggling to pay my rent and now that I’m home schooling my sons I’m struggling to buy their school supplies. I want to give up. But even in hard times I know I must choose to have faith. No matter our struggle, we can turn to God. He knows us personally and can give us strength to overcome our challenges. I Trust in YOU LORD PLEASE HEAR MY PRAYERS!
I'm glad this topic was discussed. I used to be a street magician and that lead me to study magical theory and how it relates to perception. I have a few thoughts I would like to share: 1. This was touched on but it's worth stating more clearly: magical performance is like acting in a movie. While you're watching it you suspend disbelief and engage in it as though it were real. The sin in "magic" is in either deceiving people as to what is really going on or engaging in actual ungodly spiritual practice. 2. Sean kept going back to blind spots; in terms of magic/illusion we have the main one that Joshua mentioned is attention. The movie Catch Me If You Can is all about this. Another is speed (the hand is quicker than the eye). Another is actual line of sight. If you can see the card in the magician's palm, then to your brain it simply doesn't exist. But in terms of how this translates to life more broadly, I think a huge one is again, attention. Christian life is all about keeping our eyes on Jesus and not the waters beneath us. The modern world is all about distraction and that's the key takeaway. This also works on a purely mental level too. We're surrounded by signage and lights etc and we just take it all for granted. Same with advertisement; even when you're not aware of it, stimuli get lodged into your brain and can have an effect and create cognitive biases. Every presupposition we have should be interrogated. 3. In having studied magic in a performance sense, and the occult (both academically and unfortunately personally when I was separated from the Church) I can see how little understanding there can be among Christians about these two forms of "magic." Secularism and Occultism are two realms through which the Enemy attacks God's children and both need to be understood and resisted. Unfortunately, the word "magic" is an area where these two realms intersect and a sort of bait and switch can occur. People will get into horoscopes or tarot from a secular mindset and take it as a very superficial thing. For most non-believers it never goes past this and they openly mock anyone who "actually believes in that stuff." But to the more spiritually minded, these are doorways to a secret world that promises to solve their hardships in life and answer their questions. And the worst part is it can offer a lot to people who are searching for meaning. A person can see new wonders in creation, and find hope and community and even better themselves in some areas. But it's always at a cost. And the debt isn't collected on until a person has gone very far down that rabbit hole. This is why how we live as the Church matters. The cunning of apologetics is needed to defeat the subtle arguments of the Occult. The beauty of our worship is needed to outshine the aesthetics of esoteric traditions. And our communities need to be more loving and less condemning (only God is the judge of a person's heart). For that last point, I am NOT saying to be "affirming" or soft on peoples "identities" or "lifestyles." But Jesus who was God himself, seemed able to maintain relationships with prostitutes and the like. Too many people run away from the Church because they feel hated and attacked. Thanks again for this excellent video! God bless all of you!
People like you disgust me. You are definitely a Christian if you practice magic, you are only a religious person. Repent and do something meaningful with your life.
Using the “name of Jesus” to perform ‘supernatural wonders’ is the “magic” that Christians need to be most concerned about, especially when piety performances manipulate the vulnerable and discredit faith.
As far as his profession goes, I would think most if not everyone going to see a magician perform knows it’s all illusionary and knows there being “deceived” in a way which means it would cancel the deception itself out completely. The only time I would say that magic is a sin is when it’s done spiritually, as in witchcraft with performative magic (mostly) is not that in the slightest. Just a ‘slight of hand’ performance
There's an interesting point in JP Moreland's book on miracles that I'm reading where he talks about Jesus' miracles. He used to think the miracles proved Jesus was God because he was doing them from his divine nature. But he now believes Jesus was performing them from his human nature in total dependence of a filling from the spirit. (And that view doesn't compromise his divinity) It's interesting. I mean the apostles and other Christians were then doing the same types of miracles - even raising from the dead. So, is there anything even remarkable about Jesus miracles (I mean in relation to other miracles performed by other Christians with the spirit, I'm not suggesting there's nothing remarkable happening!)?
Saying the Bible categorially prohibits anything *called* magic is just an abuse of language. I've even seen people condenming names that are twice-removed from the witchcraft meaning of magic.
Dark Magic is referenced in Scripture but In God's Eyes Scripture let's Us know We shouldn't and are not to be involved in anything affiliated with Magic as it can be a doorway to allowing The Demonic into Your Life(Mediums Necromancers Foretellers Divinations Astral Projection Users Reiki Users Are known Examples of People We as Christians Shouldn't Affiliate With)
Ignorance of christian beliefs is a stumbling block for many nominal christians. Believers, I included, need right teaching and sermons. How many pastors, priests and elders were and are fully trained and grounded in the Bible? Let not the blinds lead the blinds.
I would make a distinction here between illusionists and magicians. They are two different things all together. Illusionists practice physical and psychological manipulations, while magic taps into a spiritual practice that is demon influenced.
Hi Angie. Thank you for your comment. In the entertainment industry that I am part of, an illusionist is actually synonymous with a stage magician, whereas magician would be anyone who does close-up or stage or any performer of the magical arts. And most people in the industry are aware that what we do have secular explanations instead of supernatural ones.
Deception by definition requires malice and ill intent on the part of the deceiver. Performing magic or playing sports is predicated on the goodwill of the participants and the desire to compete and entertain
But the magicians of Egypt did the same with their secret arts; Exodus 7:22a Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, “This is the finger of God.” Exodus 8:19a
I'd be interested to know how Joshua would categorise a "Mentalist"? We have a well-known guy in Ireland who's very popular, and, from what I've seen, I would have concerns that he uses hypnotism and possibly psychic powers at the very least. Have you heard of them and if so, what would be your take on this? Thanks! 🙏🏼
Hi there. I am Joshua, the guest in Sean's video. Thank you for your question! Mentalism is a subcategory of the magical performance arts. It is characterized by a performer apparently being able to obtain inaccessible information from his subjects. In fact, the showpiece that I did in the beginning with Dr. Rae, where I apparently read his mind, could be considered mentalism. Without exposing the methods that mentalists use, most of us have secular explanations as to how we get to know certain information. Mentalists rely on certain human tendencies and knowledge to achieve these effects. Funnily enough, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett in their book "Counterfeit Kingdom" cited how NAR "apostles" and mentalists both use the same technique to apparently "divine" the scenario of an individual. This is not to say that all apparently supernatural events could have a secular explanation, but sometimes that is more probable than others. In terms of hypnotism, I have once watched an instructional video on how to do it by a Canadian mentalist called Spidy who does this really well and tours all-across Canada and the United States doing this. As I understood it, the method is secular and it captalizes on certain natural human tendencies to do so. But most people do not realize how much a hypnosis show actually takes in order for a mentalist to successfully hypnotize his participants. From my understanding of things, it takes on average of 20-25 minutes from the moment the mentalist calls people on stage to the moment they are hypnotized. But capitalizing on something I call "The Show-Business Effect", the audience only remembered the most emotionally memorable moment, which is the fact that the mentalist hypnotized people. This adds to the "telephone game" effect, that people only tell others the memorable moment without the unmemorable details.
@joshuang6896 thank you so much for such a comprehensive, thoughtful and detailed reply - that's very helpful, especially when I'm sure you're extremely busy. I'm going to come back to this comment and re-read - I feel I have more questions, but I totally accept and understand if you're too busy to answer more. However, the impression I'm getting is that you're saying most of the skill is being well-acquainted with patterns of human behaviour and using that to portray an illusion. I certainly feel happier with that idea 🙂 I'm pretty sure I've also seen a British mentalist - Derren Brown, conduct what i think he described as a mass séance (??) in the basement of the Royal Albert Hall (edit: apparently very haunted), with multiple groups being around different tables, which began moving (it looked more like the movement of Ouija Boards). Some of the things I've seen him do, do seem to be like black magic, but maybe it's just *very* clever illusion, too. Thanks again, Joshua! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@elizabethryan2217 I know the works of Darren. He is very well respected in our industry because he knows how to present his material in a convincing way. And most of us know that his work also has secular explanations, just being presented as seance or supernatural;)
@@elizabethryan2217 Hi There is nothing "black magic" about what Derren Brown does. It's a combination of illusion, slight-of-hand, attention control and suggestion/ influencing, showmanship and, yes, a bit of trickery (like clever editing of video). A lot of what Derren does relies on psychological research into how we are influenced - a great book that everyone should read is Robert Cialindi, "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion".
The magic required to miraculously heal injuries, turn water into wine, or walk on water is much different than the magic used on other occasions. That's why its okay sometimes but not other times. What exactly is different about it? Well duh. Some magic is done by Jesus or his disciples and other magic isn't. That's obviously the difference.
Are you living in some kind of alternate reality? The laws if physics are what they are, a miracle would involve breaking those universal fundamentals.... which is highly unlikely, maybe even impossible. Hence why there has NEVER been a confirmed miracle. Ever.
we are all being fooled by the greater mind, I was trained by God for 6 months, I learned many things, I was given gifts and abilities, I should be a holy man. I got to see the truth behind Christianity. Jesus was created by this Mind to get people to act better, as people are not good. I was promised greater miracles. only a Greater Mind who can fool everyone into believing could do this, I had powers for 6 months, I can't get those back, wish I could be the Greatest Person to Ever Live, but I can't get those powers back, I can't do miracles
I am extremly disgusted with this topic. There is no acceptable explanation for this form of entertainment, especially when the name of Christ is added to it. Lets stop packaging witchcraft and sin.
Magic and sorcery are much the same, both of which have to do with a person evoking demonic power for his own purposes. The same can be said of religionisrs who rely on the anointing of religious spirits to empower their preaching. The Philippian girl of Acts chapter sixteen is an example of how it plays out. Everything she said was 100% correct and was 100% the truth, but it was a religious spirit speaking through her. And so it is with all of these RUclips religionists (people like these three guys running their mouths in this video). None of the RUclips religionists have an anointing of the Holy Spirit, so if they want to stay in the limelight they're pretty much forced to rely on the empowerment of religious spirits. In case you don't already know, the religious spirits are the highest echelon of warrior/foot-soldier demons in the kingdom of darkness hierarchy who are meticulously groomed by the kingdom of darkness overlords (aka principalities/ fallen angels per Ephesians 6:12 in the King James Version) to know how to mimic the Holy Spirit when necessary (some of them can be very convincing), which is done mostly through human mouthpieces operating in soul power and presumption "Who have said, with our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?" Psalm 12:4 (and accompanied by their posture of perfection). And conversely, the religious spirits also know how to oppose the Holy Spirit when necessary, which is done mostly in church meetings by the man-at-the-top (so-called "Pastor"), and/or by the church matriarch who is usually his wife (but not always... sometimes it is a bold Jezebel character who may actually have control over the pastor and the congregation), and especially by music ministers. RUclips was concocted by the kingdom of darkness overlords (aka principalities/ fallen angels) to be propped up as a forum for religious spirits to speak through hand-picked human mouthpieces in order to acclimate Christians to soul power ministry that is energized by religious spirits. And it is working famously well for them. Only an outpouring of the Holy Spirit can interrupt it. With that in mind I think we should all be praying and asking the Lord to please send the end-time outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Funny how none of these so called "magicians ", will ever show the audience or the rest of us EXACTLY how it's done, or how he magically knew the card...🤔. God forbid, they'd actually have to get a REAL JOB, AND ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING, AND BE A WORTHWHILE CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY!!
"Can the miracles of Jesus..." What miracles? Oh, you read mere words in a collection of books written by fallible humans. Well that's convincing. LOL.
@@Bullcutter and it's Mark who can't figure out I'm not a boy. That must cause you all sorts of problems, Mark. Unsurprisngly, rather than show I'm wrong, Mark, you simply try to be insulting. Insults only work if your opinion is valued.
@@davidjanbaz7728 and poor Dave, still has nothing to support his claims about his imaginary friend or me. Present evidence for your jesus and ihi miracles, Dave. No one noticed them, no one noticed him. All you have are stories in a set of books known for not being supported. "Love the proof you have! Nothing but ignorant biases!"
Even though it’s difficult I keep faith because I know God will change my situation. I trust in you Father and keep faith even as I struggle to take care of my children. I’m so ashamed. The past two years have been hard on me. I’m a single mom. I suffered an heart attack and I’m battling lupus. Both of my sons are autistic and to be honest Heavenly Father I’m so overwhelmed. I’m constantly struggling financially to buy groceries and struggling to pay my rent and now that I’m home schooling my sons I’m struggling to buy their school supplies. I want to give up. But even in hard times I know I must choose to have faith. No matter our struggle, we can turn to God. He knows us personally and can give us strength to overcome our challenges. I Trust in YOU LORD PLEASE HEAR MY PRAYERS!
Amen
I'll keep you in prayer. Hold the faith.
Have you applied for SSI or Social Security for you and each of your children?
Our father never over fills the plate he provides. Trust him. I will pray.
I'm glad this topic was discussed. I used to be a street magician and that lead me to study magical theory and how it relates to perception. I have a few thoughts I would like to share:
1. This was touched on but it's worth stating more clearly: magical performance is like acting in a movie. While you're watching it you suspend disbelief and engage in it as though it were real. The sin in "magic" is in either deceiving people as to what is really going on or engaging in actual ungodly spiritual practice.
2. Sean kept going back to blind spots; in terms of magic/illusion we have the main one that Joshua mentioned is attention. The movie Catch Me If You Can is all about this. Another is speed (the hand is quicker than the eye). Another is actual line of sight. If you can see the card in the magician's palm, then to your brain it simply doesn't exist.
But in terms of how this translates to life more broadly, I think a huge one is again, attention. Christian life is all about keeping our eyes on Jesus and not the waters beneath us. The modern world is all about distraction and that's the key takeaway. This also works on a purely mental level too. We're surrounded by signage and lights etc and we just take it all for granted. Same with advertisement; even when you're not aware of it, stimuli get lodged into your brain and can have an effect and create cognitive biases. Every presupposition we have should be interrogated.
3. In having studied magic in a performance sense, and the occult (both academically and unfortunately personally when I was separated from the Church) I can see how little understanding there can be among Christians about these two forms of "magic." Secularism and Occultism are two realms through which the Enemy attacks God's children and both need to be understood and resisted. Unfortunately, the word "magic" is an area where these two realms intersect and a sort of bait and switch can occur. People will get into horoscopes or tarot from a secular mindset and take it as a very superficial thing. For most non-believers it never goes past this and they openly mock anyone who "actually believes in that stuff."
But to the more spiritually minded, these are doorways to a secret world that promises to solve their hardships in life and answer their questions. And the worst part is it can offer a lot to people who are searching for meaning. A person can see new wonders in creation, and find hope and community and even better themselves in some areas. But it's always at a cost. And the debt isn't collected on until a person has gone very far down that rabbit hole. This is why how we live as the Church matters. The cunning of apologetics is needed to defeat the subtle arguments of the Occult. The beauty of our worship is needed to outshine the aesthetics of esoteric traditions. And our communities need to be more loving and less condemning (only God is the judge of a person's heart).
For that last point, I am NOT saying to be "affirming" or soft on peoples "identities" or "lifestyles." But Jesus who was God himself, seemed able to maintain relationships with prostitutes and the like. Too many people run away from the Church because they feel hated and attacked.
Thanks again for this excellent video! God bless all of you!
Well said!
@@jjeennnnnn Thanks! :)
Healing a man who was know by the community to have been born blind would have been quite the illusion trick.
As a Christian who is also a magician I really liked this show! I have had some interesting interactions with christians while performing.
People like you disgust me. You are definitely a Christian if you practice magic, you are only a religious person. Repent and do something meaningful with your life.
Using the “name of Jesus” to perform ‘supernatural wonders’ is the “magic” that Christians need to be most concerned about, especially when piety performances manipulate the vulnerable and discredit faith.
Sleight of hand is not "magic". This young man and all similarly situated magicians are simply using the term colloquially.
As far as his profession goes, I would think most if not everyone going to see a magician perform knows it’s all illusionary and knows there being “deceived” in a way which means it would cancel the deception itself out completely. The only time I would say that magic is a sin is when it’s done spiritually, as in witchcraft with performative magic (mostly) is not that in the slightest. Just a ‘slight of hand’ performance
Excellent show! I'm always smarter after watching you.
Haha, that’s my goal!
@@SeanMcDowellDr Sean, with everything you're doing... how do you have time to teach at Biola??
Trickery vs illusion?
It almost falls into the category of eating meat sacrificed to idols, doesn’t it?
Jesus is no illusion and his miracles were 100 percent real. Jesus is the way the truth and the life
No man comes to the Father but by Jesus.
Those who don't want to believe have to find excuses instead.
There's an interesting point in JP Moreland's book on miracles that I'm reading where he talks about Jesus' miracles. He used to think the miracles proved Jesus was God because he was doing them from his divine nature. But he now believes Jesus was performing them from his human nature in total dependence of a filling from the spirit. (And that view doesn't compromise his divinity)
It's interesting. I mean the apostles and other Christians were then doing the same types of miracles - even raising from the dead.
So, is there anything even remarkable about Jesus miracles (I mean in relation to other miracles performed by other Christians with the spirit, I'm not suggesting there's nothing remarkable happening!)?
Saying the Bible categorially prohibits anything *called* magic is just an abuse of language. I've even seen people condenming names that are twice-removed from the witchcraft meaning of magic.
The "magic" that is prohibited seems to be a different sense, more like ceremonial magic.
Dark Magic is referenced in Scripture but In God's Eyes Scripture let's Us know We shouldn't and are not to be involved in anything affiliated with Magic as it can be a doorway to allowing The Demonic into Your Life(Mediums Necromancers Foretellers Divinations Astral Projection Users Reiki Users Are known Examples of People We as Christians Shouldn't Affiliate With)
Praise Him with a skillful coin vanish
How would healing people be a trick. Takes more faith to believe it was all a hoax than to believe it was all real.
Ignorance of christian beliefs is a stumbling block for many nominal christians. Believers, I included, need right teaching and sermons. How many pastors, priests and elders were and are fully trained and grounded in the Bible? Let not the blinds lead the blinds.
Ask yourself if you would still follow the teachings of Jesus if the miracles weren't literal. That reveals the true state of your heart.
I would make a distinction here between illusionists and magicians. They are two different things all together. Illusionists practice physical and psychological manipulations, while magic taps into a spiritual practice that is demon influenced.
Hi Angie. Thank you for your comment.
In the entertainment industry that I am part of, an illusionist is actually synonymous with a stage magician, whereas magician would be anyone who does close-up or stage or any performer of the magical arts. And most people in the industry are aware that what we do have secular explanations instead of supernatural ones.
If you know magicians, you know exactly what I mean.
Excellent discussion.
What about the deceptive nature of this art?
Deception by definition requires malice and ill intent on the part of the deceiver. Performing magic or playing sports is predicated on the goodwill of the participants and the desire to compete and entertain
But the magicians of Egypt did the same with their secret arts; Exodus 7:22a
Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, “This is the finger of God.”
Exodus 8:19a
Oh Josh! We love frogs too!
Apostle Paul says, may all men be considered a liar, and the Communication be true.
I'd be interested to know how Joshua would categorise a "Mentalist"? We have a well-known guy in Ireland who's very popular, and, from what I've seen, I would have concerns that he uses hypnotism and possibly psychic powers at the very least. Have you heard of them and if so, what would be your take on this? Thanks! 🙏🏼
Hi there. I am Joshua, the guest in Sean's video. Thank you for your question!
Mentalism is a subcategory of the magical performance arts. It is characterized by a performer apparently being able to obtain inaccessible information from his subjects. In fact, the showpiece that I did in the beginning with Dr. Rae, where I apparently read his mind, could be considered mentalism. Without exposing the methods that mentalists use, most of us have secular explanations as to how we get to know certain information. Mentalists rely on certain human tendencies and knowledge to achieve these effects. Funnily enough, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett in their book "Counterfeit Kingdom" cited how NAR "apostles" and mentalists both use the same technique to apparently "divine" the scenario of an individual. This is not to say that all apparently supernatural events could have a secular explanation, but sometimes that is more probable than others.
In terms of hypnotism, I have once watched an instructional video on how to do it by a Canadian mentalist called Spidy who does this really well and tours all-across Canada and the United States doing this. As I understood it, the method is secular and it captalizes on certain natural human tendencies to do so. But most people do not realize how much a hypnosis show actually takes in order for a mentalist to successfully hypnotize his participants. From my understanding of things, it takes on average of 20-25 minutes from the moment the mentalist calls people on stage to the moment they are hypnotized. But capitalizing on something I call "The Show-Business Effect", the audience only remembered the most emotionally memorable moment, which is the fact that the mentalist hypnotized people. This adds to the "telephone game" effect, that people only tell others the memorable moment without the unmemorable details.
@joshuang6896 thank you so much for such a comprehensive, thoughtful and detailed reply - that's very helpful, especially when I'm sure you're extremely busy.
I'm going to come back to this comment and re-read - I feel I have more questions, but I totally accept and understand if you're too busy to answer more.
However, the impression I'm getting is that you're saying most of the skill is being well-acquainted with patterns of human behaviour and using that to portray an illusion.
I certainly feel happier with that idea 🙂
I'm pretty sure I've also seen a British mentalist - Derren Brown, conduct what i think he described as a mass séance (??) in the basement of the Royal Albert Hall (edit: apparently very haunted), with multiple groups being around different tables, which began moving (it looked more like the movement of Ouija Boards). Some of the things I've seen him do, do seem to be like black magic, but maybe it's just *very* clever illusion, too.
Thanks again, Joshua! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@MarisaHoare exactly who i was thinking of 🙂
@@elizabethryan2217 I know the works of Darren. He is very well respected in our industry because he knows how to present his material in a convincing way. And most of us know that his work also has secular explanations, just being presented as seance or supernatural;)
@@elizabethryan2217 Hi There is nothing "black magic" about what Derren Brown does. It's a combination of illusion, slight-of-hand, attention control and suggestion/ influencing, showmanship and, yes, a bit of trickery (like clever editing of video). A lot of what Derren does relies on psychological research into how we are influenced - a great book that everyone should read is Robert Cialindi, "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion".
The magic required to miraculously heal injuries, turn water into wine, or walk on water is much different than the magic used on other occasions. That's why its okay sometimes but not other times.
What exactly is different about it?
Well duh. Some magic is done by Jesus or his disciples and other magic isn't. That's obviously the difference.
Given the current physics all miracles of Jesus are theoretically possible and infinitely likely.
Are you living in some kind of alternate reality? The laws if physics are what they are, a miracle would involve breaking those universal fundamentals.... which is highly unlikely, maybe even impossible. Hence why there has NEVER been a confirmed miracle. Ever.
As all people know God is against all so called practioners of magic.God power is in his word.He is God Creator of all things.
Magic is what it is.slight of hand.
@@jamescarter7655 except for god, who uses god-magic.
@@jamescarter7655 how did god do it?
we are all being fooled by the greater mind, I was trained by God for 6 months, I learned many things, I was given gifts and abilities, I should be a holy man. I got to see the truth behind Christianity. Jesus was created by this Mind to get people to act better, as people are not good. I was promised greater miracles. only a Greater Mind who can fool everyone into believing could do this, I had powers for 6 months, I can't get those back, wish I could be the Greatest Person to Ever Live, but I can't get those powers back, I can't do miracles
Dr Sean is a video magician 🎩 too
The good works that Christ did got reduced to a word called miracles by those wanting to discredit the good things He unselfishly did.
If you believe he used magic, you believe in lies already.
Surely as a Christian you shouldn't even be associated with the word magic. Arent you encouraging children and others to think magic is ok. IT'S NOT
This interview is disturbing. Make no mistake, Magic is deception and satin is the father of that.
I am extremly disgusted with this topic. There is no acceptable explanation for this form of entertainment, especially when the name of Christ is added to it. Lets stop packaging witchcraft and sin.
Magic is of the devil. The word says come out from among them and be separate
Magic and sorcery are much the same, both of which have to do with a person evoking demonic power for his own purposes. The same can be said of religionisrs who rely on the anointing of religious spirits to empower their preaching. The Philippian girl of Acts chapter sixteen is an example of how it plays out. Everything she said was 100% correct and was 100% the truth, but it was a religious spirit speaking through her. And so it is with all of these RUclips religionists (people like these three guys running their mouths in this video). None of the RUclips religionists have an anointing of the Holy Spirit, so if they want to stay in the limelight they're pretty much forced to rely on the empowerment of religious spirits.
In case you don't already know, the religious spirits are the highest echelon of warrior/foot-soldier demons in the kingdom of darkness hierarchy who are meticulously groomed by the kingdom of darkness overlords (aka principalities/ fallen angels per Ephesians 6:12 in the King James Version) to know how to mimic the Holy Spirit when necessary (some of them can be very convincing), which is done mostly through human mouthpieces operating in soul power and presumption "Who have said, with our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?" Psalm 12:4 (and accompanied by their posture of perfection).
And conversely, the religious spirits also know how to oppose the Holy Spirit when necessary, which is done mostly in church meetings by the man-at-the-top (so-called "Pastor"), and/or by the church matriarch who is usually his wife (but not always... sometimes it is a bold Jezebel character who may actually have control over the pastor and the congregation), and especially by music ministers.
RUclips was concocted by the kingdom of darkness overlords (aka principalities/ fallen angels) to be propped up as a forum for religious spirits to speak through hand-picked human mouthpieces in order to acclimate Christians to soul power ministry that is energized by religious spirits. And it is working famously well for them. Only an outpouring of the Holy Spirit can interrupt it. With that in mind I think we should all be praying and asking the Lord to please send the end-time outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Take Simon the magician for example smh 🤦🏽♂️
Looks like a adivination to me... Still hard to accept this is okay in the Lord's eyes
Lots of Meta-theology, very little scripture. A missed opportunity in today's biblical climate.
Yes! 😂😂
Lets get one thing clear you cant be a Christian and a magician.
Funny how none of these so called "magicians ", will ever show the audience or the rest of us EXACTLY how it's done, or how he magically knew the card...🤔. God forbid, they'd actually have to get a REAL JOB, AND ACTUALLY WORK FOR A LIVING, AND BE A WORTHWHILE CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY!!
Remember that time when the supernatural was verified? Me neither.
The miracles are not magic, they are fiction, often taken from Greek mythology.
"Can the miracles of Jesus..." What miracles? Oh, you read mere words in a collection of books written by fallible humans. Well that's convincing. LOL.
not cheap tricks. Simply made up nonsense that never happened in any form.
Love the proof you have!
Nothing but ignorant biases!
Oh, it's the usual atheist troll, the old girl Velkyn!
@@Bullcutter and it's Mark who can't figure out I'm not a boy. That must cause you all sorts of problems, Mark.
Unsurprisngly, rather than show I'm wrong, Mark, you simply try to be insulting. Insults only work if your opinion is valued.
@@davidjanbaz7728 and poor Dave, still has nothing to support his claims about his imaginary friend or me.
Present evidence for your jesus and ihi miracles, Dave. No one noticed them, no one noticed him. All you have are stories in a set of books known for not being supported.
"Love the proof you have!
Nothing but ignorant biases!"
@velkyn1 The Miracles Happened Friend Regardless of What You wanna believe it doesn't matter.
Of course the miracles of Jesus are an illusion, because Christ is an illusion.
God magic... seems to be the answer to how god did it.