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I'm a protestant , and I decided to put this video on while I did my treadmill workout. By the time the Father showed the close up of the face and described the injury I bursted into tears and had to stop running. Thank you Jesus for your suffering
God Bless you, Amanda!--the shroud is not the only artifact worth looking into. Jesus has made himself known in Eucharistic Miracles for thousands of years. Especially notable are those of Buenos Aires (1992) and Lanciano (750). Many more are collected in the book "The Eucharistic Miracles of the World". In these cases, the Eucharist outwardly manifests its reality as the flesh and blood of Jesus. The blood types align over 1000s of years of different Eucharistic miracles and secular scientists have reported that the flesh of the aorta and grains of the wheat are interlaced at microscopic levels that are impossible for humans to produce. This is not some medieval myth but the result of double-blind electron microscopy conducted in the last few decades. The physical evidence tells us the same thing the bible has told us since antiquity: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnate, bled, and died for us. He took on our nature, defeated Satan, and redeemed fallen humanity. He gave His apostles, and through them His Church the power to confect His body, blood, soul, and divinity, to forgive sins, and to cast out demons. He will not leave us orphans but will be with us unto Eternity. Amen!
This is easily the best "Pints With Aquinas" Episode of all time, and the best presentation I have ever seen on The Shroud of Turin. I can't imagine how any Catholic can fail to be deeply affected and inspired by Fr. Dalton's incredible analysis. Praying The Sorrowful Mysteries today will take on a much deeper dimension.
When I was 15 I had a dream of the shroud, never having seen it before (grew up Protestant). I had no idea what it was, I thought it was an image of Christ's face carved into wood. In the dream a drop of blood ran down the side of his nose. I treasured that dream, and it wasn't until I was in college that I finally saw, on the back of a book, the photograph of the negative image of the shroud of Turin, and it was an exact match to the image I saw in my dream. I literally fell down stunned on the floor of the bookstore I was in.
That's an amazing story. I left Christianity some years ago but had studied the available information on the Shroud. I am still a believer in The Lord, The Father. A new feeling for me is that the Shroud is in some way miraculous and could be the instrument to bring a lot of people back to faith, this is simething needs to happen to save the modern world, I cant see anither way.
What a great discussion! I am a 75 year old Catholic. When I first learned about the Shroud I was a young woman, an Episcopalian, in 1971 reading a popular magazine one afternoon at our summer cottage where an article appeared written by Karl E Meyer, “Were You There When They Photographed My Lord?”. As I read the article the hair stood up on my head. It was the beginning of my long journey into the Catholic Church. I can say that the Shroud changed my life.
You must repent of your sins you must be born again. This Catholic Church is not of God it is of Satan. God's word says do not make on yourself any graving image yet they're engraving images all over the Catholic church grounds! There's one mediator between man and God, Christ Jesus! Why do Catholics pray to Mary, a Lost Sinner that was headed for hell, blessed above all women in the fact that she is the only woman who ever had or ever would be able to have her own savior come from her womb. She is not someone to be worshiped. God is the only one to be worshiped that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ created everything, including Mary. Your good works will not get you to heaven they will only get you to help. Through the righteousness of Jesus Christ is the only way you get to heaven. Our good works are as filthy rags before God. We get there is because of how good God is through his grace and his Mercy his love his forgiveness. Being baptized as an infant will not save anyone. You must repent you must be born again a baby cannot do that. You are a sinner and you have to realize that and repent and accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made on the cross for your sins.
I am a protestant who invited Jesus into my heart at age four. This evidence adds earthly and historical evidence to the reality of my friendship with My Lord Jesus Christ, added to the Bible that contains his story.
I am a shroud nerd and a eucharistic miracle nerd and present this stuff to the young adults preparing for confirmation. I am definitely signing up for the Shroud Studies postgraduate certificate. I truly believe that faith and reason go hand-in-hand and people need to be taught about this. Thank you Fr. Andrew for such an awesome presentation and than you Matt for all that you do.
What was the eucharistic miracle where there was human cardiac tissue of a stressed heart.The cells were intertwined in to the eucharist almost as if they originated from within. Was it Buenos Aires in the 1990s?
@@den8863 this is called the Lanciano miracle in Italy. 7th century. It was type AB blood same as shroud and sudarium. Lanciano is the name of the city where it happened
@@GoodShepherdFilms3333 iI just did a quick internet search. There was in fact a recent miracle that occurred in 1996 in Buenos Aires Argentina that was very interesting.
Fr. Dalton is an excellent interviewer. Thanks, Matt, for not interrupting him when he was going on for long periods of time. This is easily one of the best PWA episode of all time. Thank you and God bless the both of you!
He occasionally interrupting the conversation, cut down some of the information. I think it will be batter if he let Fr. Dalton finished his point before cutting him.
Poor Matt is like that impatience kid who can't wait until the adult finishes their sentence to interject. 🤭 Unfortunately, his guests get thrown off their flow of thought flow and we loss out on the full answer/info.
so lucky of you. I will do evertyhing in the world to see the shroud and venerate it. WHile people liveing around it have already apostasized, despised God and embraced satanism
GIVE YOURSELF A CHRSTMAS GIFT! Listen to this in its entirety ! I was in the middle of Christmas baking and had to put my cookies aside and focus on this presentation!!!! Mesmerizing!!!!!! Thank you Father and Matt. Holy Christmas!
HE was unrecognizable! Disfigured! The shroud should be covered in blood too. HE was so disfigured after being scourged that there should be zero face recognition in the shroud. Pure lies. As if there would only be blood where the nails were. People, HE was bludgeoned to death. Think about that.
I am really excited to see Father Andrew Dalton here. He was one of my professor for my Postgraduate Certificate in Shroud Studies. He loves the Lord and is really passionate about spreading the truth about the Shroud. and the evidence that this is truly the burial cloth of our Lord.
Hi, Patrick!! My fellow mate from the Postgraduate Certificate in Shroud Studies.... it's been 4/5 years since we've done this....the memories of the whole study and process are still so vivid😅
So fascinating! Thank you both so much. The core mysteries of our faith are indeed the incarnation and the resurrection And are of course here - by definition when addressing the truths bound up in this uniquely Holy Shroud - which i like to think of as simply having taken an imprint of the RESURRECTION ie the geatest miracle of all time - inevitably -at the very center of every minute of this extraordinary , detailed and mesmerising discussion & presentation. I can well see why Father Andrew has found it to have become the very spearhead of his vocation. For those scientists who maybe challenged to take seriously the questions posed by the resurrection, one word which was not used in this discussion was “radiation” or light energy. In another video i watched faitly recently on the same subject, the person was comparing the energy released at the point of resurrection, to the number of lumens required to light a massive football statdium in the US near where that person lived. His conclusion was that far more was involved in the resurrection & that was how he accounted for the “time stamp” left on the shroud Thank you and congratulations Matt Fradd for giving Father Andrew this platform! You have blessed us all immeasurably!
Same here, except I didn't return to the catholic church. I'm more a Christian then a catholic. I am so happy you've returned to the lord, its so beautiful! We are all Christian, I know many will argue this with me, its one reason I don't go to a church, as in a building, but I do gather with brothers and sisters from all branches of the faith, I grow with information and deeper faith by the day. I became a VERY bad man, went to prison , became a drug addict, I was very violent, and a leader of other bad men. I even tool many from the faith, I am highly educated in world religions and coukd use the bibke as a weapon against people of the faith, shredding men of faith like a demon, and as a good looking , well built , trained fighter with years of being a violent leader of men I was skilled in manipulation I could do so with ease. Now I find disgust in what I've done, and I have no ide why God opened my eyes, I didn't ask, but they opened and I was filled with a deep fear, I could FEEL and SEE the evil in the world and a very large part radiated from me, I felt the demons and they enjoyed me, tortured me, mentally and emotionally, my pride wasn't me anymore, I could HEAR them goated me, and I cried out, and I felt peace and warmth for the first time since childhood, don't get me wrong I didn't change in a second but I could resist more and more , the demon which sounded like me, showed me memories and made me feel how I should react no longer could make me act anymore, it was a choice again, at first I made bad choices, but I grew stronger and stronger, I stopped hiding my faith, who I was around changed, as my old followers no longer accepted me, but I could be better. I'm still growing and would love prayers and will return them, if your willing. God bless you, may you find peace and love in Jesus, and may the spirit guide your steps.
@@beentheredonethat5908Many of the prophets were killers, adulterers swindlers and tormentors. You are not alone, Brother. The road to Christ is laid before you. Prayers for your full redemption.✝️
Same, i was an atheist for 18+ years. I'm 30 now and making my way back to the Church. I've always believed that those stories in the Bible were myths made up my men thousands of years ago and had no relevance to me whatsoever. After watching The Passion for the first time in years, I wept. I felt sick after seeing what Jesus went through for me even after the life I lived. How could I have been so ungrateful? I heard the story since I was a child in Catholic school but never realized what this Man went through for us. Actually seeing what was done to His body made a difference for me, it made it real. I've been reading the Gospels now in a whole different way, as if it was real and the truth, because it is. I never believed in the shroud until recently. After seeing the damage done to His body in the movie and seeing the wounds that were documented in the shroud I now have no doubt it is real. I highly recommend everyone watch the Passion of the Christ, it's a life changing movie once you realize it really happened.
The mass, confession and receiving the Holy Euchrist is a blessing so necessary in our relationship with God. Please look into this. For healing and freedom and the love of God.
What an explosive start to 2023 content! Wow! I defy you to top this interview in the remainder of this year, Matt! This was AWESOME! And thank you, Father Dalton, for sharing your time and expertise so generously with all of us! Glory to Jesus Christ!
I am a Baptist. I have never heard a better explanation of the crucifixion than the one you guys gave. I thought you pausing to pray for folks who want to be believers in Jesus was great.
@kinglear5952 also baptist but tbh i am now part denominations. Corruption exists in all ministries. Adult baptism is sacred to me as it is biblical. The reverence of orthodox and catholics, especially monastic, is compelling. How I move forward with my own seminary studies is going to be difficult. What I do know, is meditations on the cross, my own pain in combination with surrender and prayer has brought me to Christ. I watched this now 3 times.
Baptist? You must repent of your sins you must be born again. This Catholic Church is not of God it is of Satan. God's word says do not make on yourself any graving image yet they're engraving images all over the Catholic church grounds! There's one mediator between man and God, Christ Jesus! Why do Catholics pray to Mary, a Lost Sinner that was headed for hell, blessed above all women in the fact that she is the only woman who ever had or ever would be able to have her own savior come from her womb. She is not someone to be worshiped. God is the only one to be worshiped that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ created everything, including Mary. Your good works will not get you to heaven they will only get you to help. Through the righteousness of Jesus Christ is the only way you get to heaven. Our good works are as filthy rags before God. We get there is because of how good God is through his grace and his Mercy his love his forgiveness. Being baptized as an infant will not save anyone. You must repent you must be born again a baby cannot do that. You are a sinner and you have to realize that and repent and accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made on the cross for your sins. shroud is not His. He was only there 3 days!
I believe that Jesus Christ is too small to be contained in one little box. He is the Creator and wants to inhabit the whole Universe that He made, but most of all He wants to live in the heart of each of His creatures/ persons.
This is incredible to me. I am a recent convert to Christianity again, but I was still struggling to believe in the resurrection. As an engineer by trade, this talk seems like absolute proof of the resurrection. I don’t know how you’d make this mark so perfectly unless the body itself emanated amazing amounts of light. This needs to be shown everywhere.
At the lobby of our church, there’s an altar dedicated to the articles of the Shroud of Turin with pictures of different sections of the Shroud. When our pastor was explaining how the scientific facts proved Jesus’ Resurrection, he cried and could hardly go on.
The official scientific conclusion is that this shroud is a proven forgery. It was made in about 1300's (the same time when it was first "discovered") All this hype around it, is a very basic Catholic immorality, it is like with the Catholic mystics like Padre Pio. It is all made up to keep the hype up. They will seriously answer to God for this.
I was led back to Christianity this year after years of unhappiness in new age practices .. This conversation about Jesus crucifixion is so so sad but has helped me love Jesus and my faith even more ❤
I wish my 28 year old daughter could talk to you. She is deep into new age practices. She is not happy in her life today. Left Jesus in her early twenties and found new age religious beliefs. She came from a Christian home . Praise God your back in his arms!
@@juliecox8694 Thankyou Julie! You never know who can be saved .. just 6months ago I was a practising astrologer and reiki ‘healer’ .. I gave it all up and I pray your daughter may aswell ❤️
@@elenasodyssey8087 Thank you Elena! All I can do as a parent is pray that Jesus leads her back to him. She works at Whole Foods, a very new agey store. She has been pushing me away, is not coming to our family Easter dinner tomorrow because she says she does not practice Christian holidays. I am just so heartbroken over this.
I am devoted to the shroud, one day I was meditating in my bedroom on the Passion with the image of Jesus back from the shroud and I felt a very intense presense at my side, I knew it was Jesus, I could not see Him, but I was overwhelmed with sorrow and I understood how I had done this to Him and I cried and cried and asked Him for forgiveness, I was hugging my pillow because I wanted to hug Our lord so bad!! It was truly a mystical experience! Thanks be to God!❤
Unfortunately for you, it is proven to be a forgery beyond a shadow of a doubt and not only by science! But the artist who made the shroud confessed that it was a forgery! Moreover, there is no credible way to harmonize the biblical evidence regarding Jesus's burial with the image on the shroud of Turin! It is definitely a forgery. Even the Pope says that it was a man-made icon but not a historical one!!!
What a blessing. I was going to be on my way to the pub for some alone time, but merely clicking on this video, assuming I would be able to resume it later, has left me gripped to my laptop for three straight hours. There's so much that I didn't know about the history, science and theology of this incredible relic, the narrative fulfillment of the Genesis passages in the Passion blew my mind, and I definitely cried somewhere in the middle. God Bless you Father Andrew, and God be with all who are evangelized by the face of Jesus!
I've watched this at least 3 times and for someone like me (a 50 year old potential Catholic convert from non-practicing methodist studying at the Church of the Internet), the science is what reaffirms my belief after God revealed Himself to me 20 years ago. However, I was on my way out of the house when Father started to speak about the referencing of thorns and thickets throughout the Bible and I had to come back and take notes in my Bible. Those references are gold.
Theeeres a ram in a thicket sooomewheere, theres a ram in a thicket somewhere, somewhere, dont be scared, look over there, theres a ram in a thicket somewhere.
Please look into Christianity BIBLE BASED only non denominational. The Catholic Church is WAY INVOLVED with idol worship and traditional beliefs non biblical .
Matt, I'm so grateful for you and for the blessing to share about the amazing love of our Lord Jesus Christ. May he continue to bless you and your listeners, whom I also thank for their kind and encouraging words. With my love and priestly blessing, Fr Andrew
@@pintswithaquinas Hello. Could you please forward the following to Andrew Dalton. It would be great to get first hand statements on my claims. Many thanks: NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said: 1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear): Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg]. Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews. Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus. (1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"? I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts. Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only? If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from? Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON? Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph. (2) SPICES > stains/particles Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!? But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!? And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin? Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross. (3) SOUDARION Shroud If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!? Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection. (4) WOMEN > anointing Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus. How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices? To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!? Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin. So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said: 1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear): Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg]. Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews. Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus. (1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"? I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts. Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only? If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from? Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON? Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph. (2) SPICES > stains/particles Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!? But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!? And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin? Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross. (3) SOUDARION Shroud If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!? Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection. (4) WOMEN > anointing Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus. How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices? To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!? Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin. So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
(Please do not delete, give answers) NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said: 1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear): Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg]. Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews. Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus. (1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"? I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts. Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only? If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from? Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON? Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph. (2) SPICES > stains/particles Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!? But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!? And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin? Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross. (3) SOUDARION Shroud If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!? Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection. (4) WOMEN > anointing Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus. How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices? To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!? Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin. So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels! I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said: 1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear): Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg]. Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews. Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus. (1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"? I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts. Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only? If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from? Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON? Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time. And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph. (2) SPICES > stains/particles Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!? But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!? And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin? Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross. (3) SOUDARION Shroud If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!? Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection. (4) WOMEN > anointing Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus. How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices? To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!? Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin. So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
THANK YOU for this EXCELLENT segment with Father Andrew! I am a Protestant: "Born Again" Evangelical Christian who regularly enjoys Pints with Aquinas (THANK YOU Matt!) EWTN (started watching Mother Angelica 28 years ago as a new Believer) and other videos/ broadcasts re: Catholic/ Orthodox traditions, Church history, etc. Father Dalton is a Treasure Trove of knowledge about the Shroud, and the scriptures, and by the end of this video I was crying tears of JOY and praising God once again for His sinless sacrifice for us! I especially appreciated the discussion of how Jesus perfectly fulfills EVERY Messianic scripture/ prophesy, and all of the details about the Crown of Thorns, "thorns and thickets", Abraham/ Issac, etc. The Word is SOOO DETAILED and so AMAZING, just like our Jesus, and Father Andrew is so gifted in his eloquent descriptions. Praise be to God, and BLESSINGS to you both for your dedication to sharing the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ! 💜🙏✝🕊
2:58:13 I love this! Protestant here. I have pretty much no experience with the Catholic Church, but this man is the real deal in the Kingdom of Heaven! Thank you for your passion in preaching about Jesus! This felt like many sermons I’ve sat under in my Baptist (and many Methodist) churches. The passion, knowledge, understanding of scripture is contagious. Thank you for being a vessel that God is definitely using to expand His kingdom.
We are all Protestants, even us Catholics. It is noble to protest the thing that you love turning into a vestige in the clasp of Satan. The irony of this is that if the Devil is after it, it must be something we can consider belonging to God.
Study the history of Catholicism … and the Early Church. Put side by side their belief systems. Know your 66 books of the Bible… by praying to God and asking Him for complete knowledge and truth…and be wise.
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusanThe early church held the exact same beliefs as the Catholic Church today. In fact the early church called itself Catholic in the very first century king before Constantine. They also had the same teachings & customs, be that the Eucharist, veneration to Mary etc etc
My late father conducted talks about the Shroud of Turin. He was with this lady, who I forgot her name now, that started it all. Am Filipino and a closed Catholic. My siblings and I are blessed to have had a father who, in the last 2 decades of his life, dedicated his remaining years to evangelizing to his family, friends and strangers. More power and blessings to you Fr. Dalton. 🙏
Not a catholic but I'm only an hour in and I've cried several times while driving. Even if it weren't authentic, the power or the details and descriptions and possible actual image of Christ's sufferings is life altering.
I am a returning Catholic but it is all about the love of the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is active in our day, here, and now. Didache, the teaching and theology, is wonderful and helps guide and enlighten us, but Wonder, Mercy, and His Presence is what throws us to our knees.
I’m a professional iconographer(Orthodox), and I have a near-life sized print of the Shroud in my iconography studio. As far as I am concerned it is the first icon of Christ and it is a constant reminder to me as to whom I serve. Great episode ❤️☦️
Not quite. I do love the shroud as a testimonial relic. However, The Ark of the Covenant, the MercySeat, with our Great High Priest Yeshua’s blood upon it, predates the shroud and the glory-photographing of the Resurrection miracle. This Ark received His blood sprinkled according to fulfillment the Law to make Atonement for mankind. Jeremiah hid up the Ark and it was beneath Golgotha to receive the Holy Blood of Jesus…and He said: “It is finished.” And He gave up the ghost. It is the 1st witness to the Christ; the Shroud is the 2nd. There may be more relics, but by 2 or 3 witnesses shall every word/work of God be established.
If you're an Orthodox icon maker, you know that is not the first icon of Christ. What about the Image of Edessa, the image not-made-by- hand during the Christ's earthly life?
When I came to realize that the Shroud was real and proved the Resurrection it forced me to acknowledge that Christ was Lord, and that if He did rise then I had to change my life. It lead directly to me becoming Catholic. Within 6 months of coming to believe In Jesus Christ I was enrolled in RCIA, and within the year I am now a part of His Church. Praise be to God.
Father Dalton’s way of speaking is so eloquent. The Lord has blessed us with this miracle. I appreciate this interview very much. I loved his ‘homily’ at the end, where he ties everything together. Thank you to the interviewer and to Father Dalton for his passion that he brings with him for The Shroud of Turin.
I love your honesty! My experience was, once I gave my whole heart to Jesus, acknowledging who He is (Son of God) and who I was (an imperfect sinful man) willfully surrendering my last 1%, it made all the difference in my life AND in the life of others around me. I was still the SAME person but my outlook on life was different, I had hope, I was able to love more, to be more compassionate, more confident, content, forgiving and grateful for my life. Not looking back at my past but transformed into the person God made me to be… that I always wanted to be…I discovered freedom from any past guilt & shame… I could now ask for forgiveness and forgive others experiencing reconciliation. I don’t know you but I wish you too to have the same personal relationship with Jesus… you will not regret. We humans love imperfectly but His love will not change!!!
I had the same reaction. I'm listening to this for the second time so I can give my CCD class some real information on the Shroud. When I heard how many wounds were on the body I immediately went up to the Divine Mercy Shrine...I live 15 minutes away...and did their outdoor Stations of the Cross...felt compelled to.
The writer of a song called "How Big is God?" says "He's big enough to make the wondrous Universe, but small enough to live within your heart." Thank you, Jesus.
I could have listened to Father Dalton speak about the shroud for another three hours. This was incredibly interesting, thought provoking, uplifting, heartbreaking but seeing the obvious delight Fr Dalton has for this incredible topic is a joy to behold. I'm so grateful for Pints With Aquinas for putting this together. God bless.
The last 30 minutes of this was the most beautiful evangelical explanation of the crown of thorns and Adam and Eve and Isaac being almost sacrificed. It explained the reason for Jesus being called the second Adam - the perfect lamb- the veil being torn- - Jesus finished the costly penalty for sin in our place. We should be so humbled and overwhelmed by The Love of God and the willingness of Jesus to suffer so much for us.
I am not very religious all though I did spend the first 12 years of my life going to church because my grandparents made us go every Sunday but this is all very fascinating and this guy really knows his stuff and the way he says it and his enthusiasm really does inspire me to reconsider getting back into it. Fantastic job, I am blown away
Along with the evidence for the shroud of Turin look into the evidence for the resurrection and adding both together you have a case for Christianity using scientific and historical method ruclips.net/p/PL1mr9ZTZb3TUYymBPce08oyuhnHLLkR_B
I'm happy to hear that😊. The thing we have to remember is that we can't judge Jesus and His validity, by his representatives on earth who are sinful and imperfect. What I guess I'm saying is even if you aren't comfortable in church, you can have a relationship with Jesus right in your bedroom. God is everywhere and would continue to exist if every church and priest, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox were destroyed. So, it's easy to ease back into it, by just reestablishing your Relationship with Jesus and talking to him. Then he will help you find the right church. I've seen God do some amazing miracles.
But your gonna die soon, this life isn't long, nothing here will last forever. There is no risk in following Jesus and trusting him. There is a huge risk in ignoring his existence it's not worth meeting Satan. We all want proof and we have proof Satan's actions are not hidden, they are all around you, the horrors of this world, the evil that is. The evil makes sure it hides the truth from us. When you have faith their is no fear of death, who cares if you die tomorrow If you know your going to a better place forever. Imagine the hell scape world if we was all atheist and where cut off from God's existence? If more could find their way to him the world would only become a better place, we need you to be a warrior of God and find him, and get out and spread the word, we need you and you need him.
The "Hound of Heaven", the Holy Spirit, continues to follow you just as the Good Shepherd cares for you. Read your Bible always asking the Holy Spirit to interpret for you. God bless you.
This is the best PWA episode (and I’ve watched a lot!!) I learned about the shroud around 5 years ago, converted to Catholicism 2 years ago and now my faith has increased more after watching this. Thank you Matt for having Fr Dalton on. What a gift to me! I’ve sent it to many others too.
I read and watch a lot of murder cases and forensic type shows. I can take a LOT. I can handle hearing about things that will curl your hair. THIS brought tears to my eyes, especially when the priest suggested Jesus repeating, Father, forgive them, Father forgive them..."
It made me cry when you described what my Lord and Savior went through. Not just on the cross but the beating He took for me. How the thorns were driven into His head, how heavy the cross was. Even if the shroud is not proven, it won’t change my belief or my love for Jesus.
I can not stop listening to this! I have to find this Father Dalton elsewhere. I am a devout Christian but not even Catholic! I think his denomination is blessed to have him in a lead role in the topic he teaches!
Sorry but the Catholic church is not a denomination the Catholic church is the only Christian church, you protestants and your sect are heretics denominations
This Father Andrew Dalton is one of a kind...We have Father Dalton here in our parish, was ordained less 2 years ago, but acting and over powering our in- charge priest...so, be aware....
Sis i hope you understand as others here Catholics are christian it's just a denomination name the real church don't forget started with Peter Thus where all other churches come from and broke off Catholics are christian like you yet not all obviously because like even in regular churches they don't preach on Salvation and gospel message of Christ and many churches are accepting sin to be allowed like LGBTQ. Or having lesbian ministers and gay pastors when the bible is very clear on homosexuality as sin that must be repented or. I grew up a Baptist in a Baptist Church these Catholics grew up as believers in Christ in the Catholic Church just a demonization I had to write this sadly because most Christians think Catholics aren't christian like hello they believe and worship Christ lol though as said there's many false Christians in the Catholic Church such as the Roman Catholic beliefs are far from the actual Bibles teachings they follow men and mens ways not God. Though there's good Christians slash Catholics also who are saved and have accepted Christ as lord and do follow Christ and walking in love and forgiveness and a daily repentance....
Each time I watched "The Fabric of Life", I wept. Watching this now, I cannot wipe the smile from my face: HE IS RISEN!!! Hallelujah! PRAISE the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! PS This protestant family loves our Catholic brethren and we pray for you every night.
I hope you weren't harmed. In defense of individuals who are innocent of such things- every one is a person who must answer for their actions or inaction. Jesus,God,the Holy Spirit will NOT be mocked. If so- I pray you will be healed,emotionally, physically,and spiritually,and be blessed for your suffering☘️❤️🕊️✝️🦁@@AstroKid513
Yep, Astro me too. A priest moved from parish to parish until a massive lawsuit had to be publicly settled. Defrocked, he passed before I could go visit him and offer forgiveness in Jesus’ name. I never found out how he lived out his life.
Passing this on to friends and family. As a scientist, I deeply appreciate these conversations where faith and reason are “wings” raising the human spirit. Loved this conversation, Matt. We so often in our field are called to defend our faith on a whim with little to no preparation or honest dialogues. It feels as if we need to justify why God exists rather asking how God can not exist. Appreciate you, brother.
Interesting that secular “scientists” deliberately ignore the plausibility there is a God. I would think an objective mind would consider all possibilities in order to maintain their credibility. Not only do they refuse honest dialogue, they will viciously attack and attempt to destroy any ideas or theories contrary to their beliefs. That would be a difficult field to be involved with. There are many very capable, accomplished and extremely intelligent Christian scientists.
Hello everyone, I just watched this earlier in the day, alone; kids and even dogs were out enjoying this beautiful Pentecost Sunday. I stayed to wash dishes and start a RUclips video of one of my favorite channels PWA. I cried at times listening to the description Father Dalton related of our Lord and Saviour. The tears in turn helped unlock a poignant childhood memory; how as a 6 year old I sat on the floor, crying as i watched a movie of Christ Jesus being crucified. My father must have heard me because he came over to see what was wrong. I know it endeared him then. Today, I decided to learn more about the Shroud of Turin so as to be able to share with others the Immense Love God has for us all. Thank you both for this presentation!
2 Timotheus 3 16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 1 Corinthians 15 (NKJB) 1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
2 Timothy 3,16+17 ALL SCRIPTURE [Old and New Testament] is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Hebrew 4,12 For the WORD OF GOD is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. John 14,26 (gospels) But the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS], the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 15,26+27 (acts) “But when the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS] comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. John 16,13 (epistles and revelation) However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
Fr Andrew Dalton is riveting. I just hang on his every word. He described so powerfully what Our Blessed Lord suffered at the garden, at his scourging, the crowning of thorns and the terrible way they nailed Our Precious Lord on that wooden beam and raised Him to hang on the Cross. I just broke down and cried. He did it all to save us.
When they described the soil on the feet, knees and nose ( that was broken ) I was overcome with grief. The thought that my own sinfulness in a very real way caused my Lord to endure this is unbearable.
And yet, HE also receives our sin as a gift so that HE may be close to us ❤️ Such a beautiful and spousal Savior; HE truly receives us in full. (Look up Loved and Wounded by praise nation if you’d like.) God bless you!!
Come on , countless other man and women have endured punishments of this kind and even worse tortures and died from no sin whatsoever except to the displeasure of some tyrannical king or despot !
I share your sorrow,it is VERY difficult to face the hellish suffering he endured,if we turn away from sin, his incredible sacrifice will not be in vain.
Don't put too much on yourself, we are all sinners in a World and a condition designed by The Lord, it is a very realistic, dramatic, tragic divine play and we all play equal parts.
One of the best guests youve had yet. His passion for the the truth of Christ and the shroud is inspiring. Just as anyones should be by the miraculous that God has shown us. I cant imagine anyone not believing in Christ when they look into the miraculous.
It was a miracle when I first believed. Something I thought impossible until I met Jesus one Day as I walked with Him, I soon realized it was "He" and didn't even know it until reality set in and Scripture was alive within me, the love, the sustanance and assurance was all there. I was filled with awe, I was so happy, I cried. I just wept typing this because he died, replaced by joy, because He lives! Thank you for your work Andrew. I woke up to this video, this Morning an hour ago blasting on my TV set! Thank You Jesus!.......
Thank you Father Andrew & Matt Fradd!! I’m a believer. This information is amazing!! I read the papers in ‘88, but I didn’t believe them. Since I heard about The Shroud, & read about it when I was young, I have always believed it was the burial cloth of Jesus. I do believe it is the result of the “nature effect of a supernatural event”!! Thank you both for this 3 hour event!! This is the 4th time I’ve watched it.
Father Dalton is indeed a brilliant and scholarly man. I appreciated this very much. His well earned and proficient wisdom and learned approach to sharing that as if people can think truly touched me. Makes me proud to be a Catholic and it has been some time since I have seen what makes me feel that. Thank You!
Matt, thank you for this amazing interview. Certainly sharing it with many in my life. How amazing is Fr. Dolton. Well done with such passion and devotion. Jesus is the Supernatural power we all need to have permanently in our lives at all times. well done and thank you from OZ.
Already shared link on Facebook. Thank you for doing this interview. I imagine the Trinity saying, “We have their attention. Let them wrestle through the night, many nights.” I like how you bring reason to the point of faith, where free will drives the next step. I have not been able to identify the source of the words on a favorite can cozy. After watching this, I’m thinking maybe Jesus should get the credit. “If you’re not living on the edge, you’re taking up too much space.” The Shroud as a revelation of the Resurrection bring us to the edge. If I may, I’d like to share what I’ve felt led to-about divine blessing and God’s hope for humanity. I have faith in divine blessing, that God’s lovingkindness guides and sustains all creation. Further, we are invited to say Yes to God’s hope for humanity-that we embrace, embody, and express God’s lovingkindness. Jesus demonstrated the depth of our human capacity to love when we are open to the Father’s love and the power and wisdom of the Holy Spirit. We can fulfill God’s hope for humanity. We can cultivate kindness and create a culture of kindness. Be the blessing, be the light. Commit to kindness, mindful kindness. Pause, breathe, choose. Choose kindness, mindful kindness. Namaste.
I can say I converted to be Catholic because I watched about shroud of Turin for the first time when I was 12 years old. After that day I saw Jesus in different way.
I love the paradox of such an incomprehensibly delicate and yet likewise powerful image. Nanometers wide, made with profound energy. Gentility and power married together, just like Him. He is a gentle stream, a stream that never stops flowing, no matter what.
Fellow believers, if you are reading this, can you pray for my sister Catherine? 😢 She has been diagnosed with cervical cancer. She has a CAT SCAN Friday to see how advanced it is. She needs salvation and healing. Ask our Lord to pour out His Holy Spirit upon her to bring her to salvation and also supernaturally heal her. I am afraid she will give up and I want her to be here when Yeshua returns to set up His millenial Kingdom. Thank you. 😢😢😢
God please bless your sister and heal her. I pray that you find peace in His decision. I will never fear death because it’s our eternal life that is glorious. I pray my children come back to the Catholic Church and total belief in Jesus.
@@captivedesk3168 Hey, if you’re curious, you should watch Metatron’s breakdown of the authenticity of the shroud. He says the painting hypothesis has been thrown out pretty much, no scientific evidence of pigmentation or techniques used by artisans. Plus he mentioned they could identify the shroud indeed had real blood, AB- I believe. Several hypotheses that attempt to explain the creation of the image also exceed our current understanding of the laws of physics. I don’t base my faith on the shroud, but many arguments I’ve heard against it just don’t hold muster. *Also, it is in fact dated to medieval era, but this is likely because they only took a sample from one area of the shroud. Reweaving I think is to have been done for a fabric so old, hence would not be surprised to find if different areas of the shroud are different ages.
I too am a protestant believer and like Amanda, couldn't stop weeping listening to this amazing presentation on the Shroud of Turin! Thank you! He is risen! He is risen indeed!
I'm on a Lenten slump. The devil working double time here. And I was praying to God and to Mary to help me rekindle my relationship with my faith at this time (most especially). And I had a sudden urge to look at some new stuff from Pints with Aquinas and it led me here. I feel pumped to be Catholic. Thank you Matt. Thank you Jesus! ❤
@hcox1111 Do you plan to tell Jesus to his face that his mother isn't important? It isn't about needing Mary in order to get something; it's about loving her because she is, as the angel said, "full of grace". Asking someone to pray for you is Biblical and meaningful. How much more so asking the mother of Christ to pray for us!
Thank you Fr Dalton for explaining these studies. As a Catholic and a scientist listening to the details that have been discovered from the Shroud, connecting to the events of Jesus's Passion and Death, has truly touched my heart in a way I can't put into words. I pray this episode and further studies into the Shroud will bring unbelievers to belief 🙏 I will be looking at the cross and pray the sorrowful mysteries in much different way from now on. Thank you.
Hello there, I am so blessed to know Jesus and to have the hope of Him. I am a protestant, and I’ve never really cared if the shroud of Turin was authentic or not. Like you guys said, it wouldn’t change my faith either way. But some of the things I heard on this podcast Really got me excited! Thanks so much for the discussion.
@@Awaiting_YHWHs_Return I believe because God reached out to me in a personal, intimate way when I was struggling in my life and God let me know that He was patient and kind and merciful and He is where I belong.
I’ve seen many Shroud presentations since I first saw an exhibition in Canberra Australia with the actual Shroud in 1984 as a 17 yr old , but this one wove a biblical reality through it, and brought the Passion to life. Not ashamed to say that I was in tears contemplating Jesus suffering for me, all of us so profoundly animated by Father. What an extraordinary mind and heart for Jesus he has This is one of those podcasts that has turbo charged my relationship with and dedicated life to Jesus. So grateful for this experience. I could literally listen to Matt interview him for many more hours
The Shroud of Turin has never been to Australia. It has been only in Turin since 1578. In 1578, the house of Savoy moved the shroud to the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, which later became part of Italy. It has remained there ever since, with the exception of World War II, when Italy relocated it for safekeeping. It is such a valuable relic of the Catholic Church that it has been protected and kept in the same Cathedral for the past 445 years. You may have seen one of the replicas, but in order to see the original you have to travel to Turin, Italy. The Shroud was never on public display between 1978 and 2000.
@@jeffscully50613 there you go. Always thought it was the original, but must’ve been a facsimile. Interesting to have seen it as a 17yr old , and now I’ve reverted, profound to delve deeper into it Thanks for the information and detail on the actual shroud
@eddiej9733 I've seen posts of others on social media claiming to have seen the actual Shroud of Turin in places other than Italy. Apparently in the early-mid 1980s there was a traveling exposition with a facsimile of the Shroud. It is such a valuable (and fragile) relic that it would be impossible for it to be traveling anywhere. There are many replicas today traveling the world with experts giving lectures on this amazing relic. The next time it will be open to the public is in 2025. Of course, in Turin.
@@jeffscully50613 of course. Thinking about it now it is the most extraordinary artefact in existence and also the most fragile. I didn’t give it much of a thought at the time. We were on a family bonding holiday after the tragic death of my mother. I always thought it was a kooky item, later ‘proved’ as a forgery by the labs, only to have some serious credibility when one looks at the research and data in greater detail I think its most powerful attribute is the reality and detail it brings to Jesus’ torture and finally death. A reminder that the things in the bible actually took place and that Jesus substitutionary acts were beyond comprehension Thanks for the info and correction. It has been much appreciated
So happy to catch up with this story. My children were 1 and 3 when they did the old test in the 70's. I remember anxiously waiting to find out about the results of 1988. This so has opened my heart in a way I can't explain. But it reminds me of my first experiences in Sunday School when I was 4 - 5. I was a child of empathy, trust, and joy. I remember having love and tears for Jesus and felt so close to Jesus then. Thank you for reawakening those memories and feelings as well as the fact that Jesus continues in his pain for use. I don't imagine I'll stop my tears tonight.... maybe never now that my mind understands what my heart has known for so long. Bless you teaching and you two men.
This is the 3rd time listening to this podcast and won't be the last. The information is so enormous. The detail, the kmowledge far outreaching. Thank you.
I’m watching it for the 2nd time and I think I’m gonna make it a yearly thing to watch during Holy Week or Easter. Too much information for me to hold on to lol.
This was amazing, I wish this was 6 hours longer! What a pleasure to hear Fr. Andrew, the things he said and with the heart that he said them moved me to tears. Thank you so much for this, I wish everyone knew about the Shroud, it really does have the power to make unbelievers believe, to get them to know our Lord Jesus
I am very early in my faith journey after going my entire life with very little information about Christianity. But when I saw the face in the shroud I literally had to catch my breath, it was so beautiful and pure. I’ve been looking to educate myself further and try to find “proof” of Jesus and the resurrection, and I feel like this podcast was something I’ve been looking for for a while, even though I didn’t know what the shroud even was. It’s the type of scientific data that I’ve been searching for.
Thank you thank you thank you for talking about this!!! I work in Archeology and have never heard of this remarkable artifact. Grant it I work with much younger funerary traditions so it’s not necessarily in my wheelhouse but I just went and bought a book and am trying to soak in as much information as possible. It is truly exciting to learn about, I can see why the priest couldn’t sleep after that lecture!
I also cried and keep on crying by seeing the face of our HOLY LORD JESUS CHRIST on the Shroud! We can go out and spread the good news of salvation!!!!! IT IS VERY URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt, I am very happy for you. When I started watching you, you had about 150K subscribers. Now you have 300K. You are inspiring many and leading people to the Church. Good work.
I love this analysis by Fr. Andrew Dalton especially the detail of the enormous amount of excruciating suffering that Jesus underwent for all our sins. This makes it so real and alive in the moment of Jesus's passion for all of humanity.
I am so impressed by this young priest's intelect, languages skills, scientific mind and communication skills. He is so likable! But, moreover; he is informatively believable and enthrawling!
I’ve been fascinated with this since the 80’s. I would love for Fr. Dalton to come to our parish. He is so smart but humble. What’s so sad for me is that the atheists in my life wouldn’t even deign to listen to this. They’d refuse to go to the lives presentation, too. God is giving us torrents of signs and wonders and the disbelief in them seems obstinate. Prayers, prayers, prayers. 🙏🙏🙏
Totally agree, why doesn’t everyone know this? It’s crazy. I won’t let my nieces and nephews get to grade 7 without already knowing at least some of this
@@greggrimer1428 God loves humility more than any other grace. The fact that you say, with great pride, that you stayed within the church does not make you any more of a Christian than the girl who left and returned. God is all about love. Maybe you should develop your love for others and try to appreciate the path they took and that they found a way back to God.
I'm a long time listener and Patreon supporter, and I think this is one of you best episodes ever. Huge thanks to Father Dalton for sharing this wonderful information. Faith and reason - the data from the scientific examination of the shroud is great miracle of the modern age.
THIS IS LIFE CHANGING! As much as I already love Jesus...this brought me to a place of worship and gratitude that was deeper than I've ever been before. Thank you!
I have been an advocate of the Shroud since the original research group back in the 1970's. Tracing the theology of the thorns back to Genesis was just profound from my point of view. As a Protestant, this was fascinating and uplifting. Well done.
I learned so much about the shroud today. I knew it was a cruxified person in the shroud now I know it is of Jesus Christ our redeemer. thank you very much. God bless you both for sharing this video.
This is excellent. I went through all this with my year nine girls when I was a teacher. I’m retired for years now but it’s great we are still believing! I didn’t believe the news it was fake and didn’t even read about it properly. It’s very confirming of Gods Resurrection of Jesus ❤️
This is absolutely amazing! I’ve not heard any of this before in my life. I saw the shroud picture you pulled up and just began ugly crying. I don’t even have the words to describe the feeling. Wow. Just wow!
I consider the image his final act of love while in the physical body. I had a major falling away from God few years back. Then I tried to come back to God but it felt very ritualistic and I could never regain the original connect with God. I kept asking for it and eventually came across a video explaining the Shroud of Turin. Watching it brought back memories of when I first fell in love with God, it was his sufferings on the cross and the realisation it was all for me that made me love him. Watching the video made me realise it again and made me break into tears, it's been a few weeks and i am able to feel his presence when i pray (which i had lost). I think the this was the purpose of the Shroud, to remind and bring back people like me into realising his love
@@factandsuspicionpodcast2727 Was she not sinless? She couldn't just die like sinners. That's you, me & all but Jesus & Mary. God made His own mother. Would she be less that perfect for the job? God intended us all for union with Him. Our first parents blew plan A. Plan B for all but Jesus & Mary & of those only Jesus rose again on His own. Mary had to have been assumed away from this sinful world. She is the OT Revelation Woman (new Ark of new Covenant) who crushes the head of the serpent.
@@maryqcarnes4482How could she be sinless? Only the finished work of the cross does that. The only sinless one was Jesus. I am not saying Mary was not a good woman, only that she was a woman. No one is sinless. We can believe what Jesus did and are changed, but that is the only way and Jesus said He was the only way to the Father. The Bible doesn't talk about Mary's death. John, the Baptist's death is in there, Paul's death is recorded, but not Mary's death. She was human. She still had to go to the Father through Jesus even though she was his mother. That is Biblical. Still not saying that she was not a good woman. Just that as a human, she could only go to heaven because of what Jesus did and not her good works. The Bible says our works are like dirty rags. That means we can do nothing to earn Salvation, it is a gift. If you have to work for a gift, it is no longer a gift, it is your pay cheque. The Bible also says that Faith without works is dead. The Faith in the finished work of the cross comes first. The works, or good deeds, come from a humble gratitude of what Jesus did and wanting to share the love we experienced with others. The attitude is totally different. If we do good works to earn God's gift, then the gift is meaningless. It is no longer a gift. The Bible says we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. ALL, which included Mary, have sinned. Again, it doesn't mean she was not a good woman, she believed in the scripture and loved God, but she was a believer in the first covenant, where you had to do certain things to get God's favour. There were sacrifices and dietary rules and many other things, some where add ons by religious people because no one can truly follow the 10 commandments. I am not Catholic, but I went to a great Catholic high school. A Priest sometimes did Mass for students during special times. I was there, and was part of the school band that played for them, but I didn't take communion with them, I did that at my own Church. Anyway, the Priest always said that Protestents know the Bible better than Catholics because we read it and encouraged all the students to read it. I encourage you to start with the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. It does not say Mary was sinless.
I am 30 minutes in. This is amazing. People that don't want to believe won't. No evidence will prove it to them. This is not for them. This is for people who want to believe. The Holy Spirit is all that can help the former. Pray for them. Hate and apathy can shut people off to seeing. Pray that their eyes are opened.
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 Yo, friend. ^^ Hey, have you ever heard of a radio show called "Catholic Answers Live"? It's a call-in show where experts in the Christian faith -- in the Catholic tradition -- take questions from all sorts of people! Literally anyone can call -- Christians, atheists, agnostics -- anyone! And it's 100% free. I don't mean to antagonize you in any way by posting this! I just wanted to suggest that you could call them and pose your questions. :D Please, try it! I think you'll find a lot of neat and surprising answers to your objections against the faith. Because -- yes, of course there are answers to everything! How could there not be? :) Christians and people of faith are not your enemy, my friend. :) I care about you; I want nothing but eternal joy for you! And nothing in the Bible is absurd when you read it in context (you know -- historical context, linguistic context, literary context, etc.). The things you mention in your post just happen to be somewhat flawed interpretations of Scripture, tragically! I'm not saying it's your fault -- just that sadly many atheists aren't all that skilled at biblical interpretation. The reality is that faith and reason are not opposed to each other. They are the two wings with which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of God! So, yeah, definitely do call the Catholic Answers apologists and fire all your questions at them. Many Christians you encounter on RUclips might not be as well equipped to explain their faith to others, because everyone is at a different stage in their learning process -- but take on the pros, and you'll be so glad that you did. It'll be a much better investment of your time and energy than these comment box debates! Lastly, another tip: read the book "Hard Sayings: A Catholic Approach to Answering Bible Difficulties" by Trent Horn. I think it'll go a long way toward helping you interpret the Bible in a more correct way! While I'm at it, I also recommend checking out the website catholic.com. I swear I'm not deliberately promoting the Catholic faith to you, haha. I'm just suggesting it because there are a lot of free articles there that can help with your questions. There you can search up anything -- for instance, "Lot" or "Noah" -- and you can find some good guidelines regarding how to interpret that particular narrative. Different articles may have slightly different points of view, but they're all valid. For instance, here's an article about Noah's ark that I think you might like: www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/a-catholic-perspective-on-a-new-attraction Anyways -- in all sincerity, I believe very few people in the world actually deny the Christian faith. But a HUGE number of people deny what they mistakenly believe to be the Christian faith! I'm not asking you to "unquestioningly" accept everything we propose; just.... well, maybe be willing to open your mind to the possibilities. :) As the original commenter said: If you outright refuse to accept God, nothing anyone can say will convince you. But if your heart is open -- if you're willing to honestly examine the evidence for God FROM OUR POV and letting it speak to you..... I mean, who knows, right? I will never lose hope that you too can have eternal life! Cheers, friend, I'll pray for you; may my Lord bless you. :)
Thank you very much for this incredible video. I am in awe of the love of our Lord for us His little children. As we get close to Lent, I will recommend this video to my friends along with the 24 Hours of the Passion meditations dictated by our Lord to SOG, Little Daughter of the Divine Will, Luisa Piccarreta, where He shares very specific details regarding His sufferings during His Passion.🙏🏽
This is my favorite episode of Pints with Aquinas, Father Dalton is a very eloquent speaker and his passion for the Lord is more than evident. I don't need to be convinced of anything. I am a believer, and I think that the work that he and his colleagues are doing is excellent.
Thank you for this excellent conversation about the Shroud! I have listened to it many times and am touched in a unique way each time. I leave for Rome tomorrow evening, on an Italy Pilgrimage, and will surely experience each spiritual moment in a heightened way. God Bless you, Fr. Andrew & Matt!
I started this episode thinking it might be mildly interesting, and ended up finding it really life-changing. Thank you, Matt - this was one of your best episodes ever! And thank you, Fr. Dalton, for coming on the show and for all of your work. You were amazing. As a soon-to-be-former Protestant, I had only childhood memories of hearing of the shroud, mostly consisting of "some silly superstitious nonsense that was quickly debunked ." I'm so glad to have the chance to correct those misconceptions.
I've been looking for love all my life, and now I've found it in Jesus.Now it is even perfectly clear why he did it,imagine loving someone you would die for,you must have had that kind of love.He did it for all of us and especially for those who believe in him.I love you Jesus with all my heart and soul.
This priest and his knowledge and his in depth understanding of the research on this garment was incredible and inspiring. I didn’t need this to be a believer in the resurrection but those who are skeptics should certainly be interested in the possibility. My faith in Christ and His death on the cross began as a child in a Christian home which I will always be grateful for. Jesus shed His blood to cover our sins - the perfect lamb of God - those who believe,receive and walk in faith will live with God for eternity.
Your faith in Adult Santa began when your parents lied to you about Adult Santa. Wow! Who would have thought... I mean... isn't it obvious that children will make this crap up all by themselves? :-)
@@schmetterling4477 You have not studied anything at all about the Shroud, have you? How pathetic to want to compare Jesus to Santa Claus. Man is that ever sad right there. Perhaps you would like to give us your theory just how the fabric, the pollen and dirt on it at date to Biblical days of Jerusalem? They have *proven* was that it contained a body that was beaten like Jesus was, scourged like Jesus was, was crucified like Jesus was AND wore a cap of thorns (only Jesus in recorded history was crucified wearing one of those) like Jesus was. To those of us that are blessed with better than average intelligence that spells it out quite clearly. And the thousands of manhours of research do a fine job at showing who was on the Shroud as well.
As an Engineer, I know the constraints of measuring systems, especially in Chromatography, it always puzzle me how “scientists” say a particular planet has this or that composition based on spectral analysis done light years away, I remember reading an article where they said with a plain face that on a particular plant it would rain sunscreen, and nobody calls it BS, and yet, an artifact like is deemed BS by people that clearly NEVER tried a simple experiment, let alone something mind blowing like this.
I could listen to Father Dalton speak on The Shroud for days. My faith in Jesus Christ is affirmed and deepened. To actually see the face of Jesus is … I don’t even have a word for it. I’ve never been more in love with Jesus. 🙏 Please bring Father back for further discussion.
This is absolutely the best summary of details and research about the Shroud I have seen/heard. I just spent the last several weeks looking at and reading on several documentaries and resources on the Shroud in order to summarize for my 9th-grade students some of the amazing qualities of the shroud. If I had just watched this first, I could have saved myself so much time and effort AND learned more than I did through the others. Thank you so much!!
Thank you for being a teacher! I'm a medical guy who has watched many of the same videos on the Shroud. Agree that this one is best; however, I think much of his information relates to these other, older sources. If I can be of any help, let me know. Makes me think of some of my own teachers.
Watched this today, Tuesday, and prayed the sorrowful mysteries of the rosary. It really brings Jesus suffering to life. For the sake of your sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and the whole world, Jesus!
I won't forget how devasted I was in 1988 when it was "dated". Not because it shook my faith but rather that it could not be used to bring millions of converts as the tilma of Guadalupe did. Thanks for reminding us that " there is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed."
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 The world's Christian population is expected to grow from 2.2 billion in 2010 to 2.9 billion in 2050. Nearly one-in-three people worldwide (31%) are expected to be Christian at mid-century, the same share as in 2010
Hello from Scotland...Absolutely amazing and answered some of the questions for me about why so much suffering of Jesus and more..I'm sharing far and wide. Just wonderful, beyond inspiring. Encouraging for the times we are living in .. I'm pumped as Matt would say .. Thank you all 🙏
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the 13 century hoaxer must know we would soil test and carbon date
I'm a protestant , and I decided to put this video on while I did my treadmill workout. By the time the Father showed the close up of the face and described the injury I bursted into tears and had to stop running. Thank you Jesus for your suffering
I was raised protestant and turned Catholic in 2015, at 50 years old! Best thing I ever did, highly recommend it! God bless you.
God Bless you, Amanda!--the shroud is not the only artifact worth looking into. Jesus has made himself known in Eucharistic Miracles for thousands of years. Especially notable are those of Buenos Aires (1992) and Lanciano (750). Many more are collected in the book "The Eucharistic Miracles of the World". In these cases, the Eucharist outwardly manifests its reality as the flesh and blood of Jesus. The blood types align over 1000s of years of different Eucharistic miracles and secular scientists have reported that the flesh of the aorta and grains of the wheat are interlaced at microscopic levels that are impossible for humans to produce. This is not some medieval myth but the result of double-blind electron microscopy conducted in the last few decades. The physical evidence tells us the same thing the bible has told us since antiquity: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnate, bled, and died for us. He took on our nature, defeated Satan, and redeemed fallen humanity. He gave His apostles, and through them His Church the power to confect His body, blood, soul, and divinity, to forgive sins, and to cast out demons. He will not leave us orphans but will be with us unto Eternity. Amen!
@@drillsargentadog”I am with you until the very end of the age”
You are always welcome to come home to the one true holy apostolic catholic church founded by Jesus Christ
Take a pilgrimage if you can. They allow public viewing once a year
This is easily the best "Pints With Aquinas" Episode of all time, and the best presentation I have ever seen on The Shroud of Turin. I can't imagine how any Catholic can fail to be deeply affected and inspired by Fr. Dalton's incredible analysis. Praying The Sorrowful Mysteries today will take on a much deeper dimension.
I'm an hour in. I need to see if it beats the episode with Fr. Vincent Lampert
A rehash of the same ol' Shroudie talking points garbage. Seen one seen 'all.
He is assuming that because the man on the cloth resembles paintings of Jesus is Jesus.
Wow..."easily the best of all time". Quite an endorsement. Thank you!
@@jeangenibrel2149 Did you actually watch the video? If you did, could you please cite the time when such assumption was made?
When I was 15 I had a dream of the shroud, never having seen it before (grew up Protestant). I had no idea what it was, I thought it was an image of Christ's face carved into wood. In the dream a drop of blood ran down the side of his nose. I treasured that dream, and it wasn't until I was in college that I finally saw, on the back of a book, the photograph of the negative image of the shroud of Turin, and it was an exact match to the image I saw in my dream. I literally fell down stunned on the floor of the bookstore I was in.
That's incredible!! God is so good
You like me, have been shown.
What a beautiful acquaintance!
God knows who we are, in our spirit...He draws us to Him 💖
Wow. So amazing. Thanks for sharing.
That's an amazing story. I left Christianity some years ago but had studied the available information on the Shroud. I am still a believer in The Lord, The Father. A new feeling for me is that the Shroud is in some way miraculous and could be the instrument to bring a lot of people back to faith, this is simething needs to happen to save the modern world, I cant see anither way.
What a great discussion! I am a 75 year old Catholic. When I first learned about the Shroud I was a young woman, an Episcopalian, in 1971 reading a popular magazine one afternoon at our summer cottage where an article appeared written by Karl E Meyer, “Were You There When They Photographed My Lord?”. As I read the article the hair stood up on my head. It was the beginning of my long journey into the Catholic Church. I can say that the Shroud changed my life.
You must repent of your sins you must be born again. This Catholic Church is not of God it is of Satan. God's word says do not make on yourself any graving image yet they're engraving images all over the Catholic church grounds! There's one mediator between man and God, Christ Jesus! Why do Catholics pray to Mary, a Lost Sinner that was headed for hell, blessed above all women in the fact that she is the only woman who ever had or ever would be able to have her own savior come from her womb. She is not someone to be worshiped. God is the only one to be worshiped that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ created everything, including Mary.
Your good works will not get you to heaven they will only get you to help. Through the righteousness of Jesus Christ is the only way you get to heaven. Our good works are as filthy rags before God. We get there is because of how good God is through his grace and his Mercy his love his forgiveness. Being baptized as an infant will not save anyone. You must repent you must be born again a baby cannot do that. You are a sinner and you have to realize that and repent and accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made on the cross for your sins.
I am a protestant who invited Jesus into my heart at age four. This evidence adds earthly and historical evidence to the reality of my friendship with My Lord Jesus Christ, added to the Bible that contains his story.
I am a shroud nerd and a eucharistic miracle nerd and present this stuff to the young adults preparing for confirmation. I am definitely signing up for the Shroud Studies postgraduate certificate. I truly believe that faith and reason go hand-in-hand and people need to be taught about this. Thank you Fr. Andrew for such an awesome presentation and than you Matt for all that you do.
What was the eucharistic miracle where there was human cardiac tissue of a stressed heart.The cells were intertwined in to the eucharist almost as if they originated from within. Was it Buenos Aires in the 1990s?
@@den8863 this is called the Lanciano miracle in Italy. 7th century. It was type AB blood same as shroud and sudarium. Lanciano is the name of the city where it happened
@@GoodShepherdFilms3333 iI just did a quick internet search. There was in fact a recent miracle that occurred in 1996 in Buenos Aires Argentina that was very interesting.
@@GoodShepherdFilms3333 my mistake, there was a more recent miracle in Sokolka Poland that is more interesting.
@@den8863 ❤ what a blessing that there are so many of these miracles, each better than the last, as to require multiple updates ! hahaha
Fr. Dalton is an excellent interviewer. Thanks, Matt, for not interrupting him when he was going on for long periods of time. This is easily one of the best PWA episode of all time. Thank you and God bless the both of you!
He occasionally interrupting the conversation, cut down some of the information. I think it will be batter if he let Fr. Dalton finished his point before cutting him.
Poor Matt is like that impatience kid who can't wait until the adult finishes their sentence to interject. 🤭 Unfortunately, his guests get thrown off their flow of thought flow and we loss out on the full answer/info.
@@borneandayak6725 yes, but overall, Matt keep quiet for much of it and let him talk.
Born in Turin, and raised in Turin as a cradle Catholic. I saw the Shroud in 1978 and in 1998. A forever fascination! This episode is sooooo good!!!
Salutations depuis la Savoie Française.
@@bernardevillaw3410 Mate I'd advise you to take some heart burn medicine and then watch the show
so lucky of you. I will do evertyhing in the world to see the shroud and venerate it. WHile people liveing around it have already apostasized, despised God and embraced satanism
@@celtoroma4013 There isn't a non-French Savoy
I long for that Opportunity. God bless you .share. bear witness!
GIVE YOURSELF A CHRSTMAS GIFT! Listen to this in its entirety ! I was in the middle of Christmas baking and had to put my cookies aside and focus on this presentation!!!! Mesmerizing!!!!!! Thank you Father and Matt. Holy Christmas!
HE was unrecognizable! Disfigured! The shroud should be covered in blood too. HE was so disfigured after being scourged that there should be zero face recognition in the shroud. Pure lies. As if there would only be blood where the nails were. People, HE was bludgeoned to death. Think about that.
I am really excited to see Father Andrew Dalton here. He was one of my professor for my Postgraduate Certificate in Shroud Studies. He loves the Lord and is really passionate about spreading the truth about the Shroud. and the evidence that this is truly the burial cloth of our Lord.
Hi, Patrick!! My fellow mate from the Postgraduate Certificate in Shroud Studies.... it's been 4/5 years since we've done this....the memories of the whole study and process are still so vivid😅
Thanks, Patrick, for these kind words. God bless you!
God bless you! Bear witness. Bring others to Christ!
Ok.
Now I jealous.
So fascinating! Thank you both so much. The core mysteries of our faith are indeed the incarnation and the resurrection And are of course here - by definition when addressing the truths bound up in this uniquely Holy Shroud - which i like to think of as simply having taken an imprint of the RESURRECTION ie the geatest miracle of all time - inevitably -at the very center of every minute of this extraordinary , detailed and mesmerising discussion & presentation. I can well see why Father Andrew has found it to have become the very spearhead of his vocation. For those scientists who maybe challenged to take seriously the questions posed by the resurrection, one word which was not used in this discussion was “radiation” or light energy. In another video i watched faitly recently on the same subject, the person was comparing the energy released at the point of resurrection, to the number of lumens required to light a massive football statdium in the US near where that person lived. His conclusion was that far more was involved in the resurrection & that was how he accounted for the “time stamp” left on the shroud
Thank you and congratulations Matt Fradd for giving Father Andrew this platform! You have blessed us all immeasurably!
Im a lapsed Catholic who at one time was sure that i was now an atheist. This podcast was such a gift to me. Thank you
I lapsed for decades. Am so glad to be back with Our Lord. Welcome back brother 💚🙏🔥
Same here, except I didn't return to the catholic church. I'm more a Christian then a catholic. I am so happy you've returned to the lord, its so beautiful! We are all Christian, I know many will argue this with me, its one reason I don't go to a church, as in a building, but I do gather with brothers and sisters from all branches of the faith, I grow with information and deeper faith by the day.
I became a VERY bad man, went to prison , became a drug addict, I was very violent, and a leader of other bad men. I even tool many from the faith, I am highly educated in world religions and coukd use the bibke as a weapon against people of the faith, shredding men of faith like a demon, and as a good looking , well built , trained fighter with years of being a violent leader of men I was skilled in manipulation I could do so with ease. Now I find disgust in what I've done, and I have no ide why God opened my eyes, I didn't ask, but they opened and I was filled with a deep fear, I could FEEL and SEE the evil in the world and a very large part radiated from me, I felt the demons and they enjoyed me, tortured me, mentally and emotionally, my pride wasn't me anymore, I could HEAR them goated me, and I cried out, and I felt peace and warmth for the first time since childhood, don't get me wrong I didn't change in a second but I could resist more and more , the demon which sounded like me, showed me memories and made me feel how I should react no longer could make me act anymore, it was a choice again, at first I made bad choices, but I grew stronger and stronger, I stopped hiding my faith, who I was around changed, as my old followers no longer accepted me, but I could be better.
I'm still growing and would love prayers and will return them, if your willing. God bless you, may you find peace and love in Jesus, and may the spirit guide your steps.
@@beentheredonethat5908Many of the prophets were killers, adulterers swindlers and tormentors. You are not alone, Brother. The road to Christ is laid before you. Prayers for your full redemption.✝️
Same, i was an atheist for 18+ years. I'm 30 now and making my way back to the Church. I've always believed that those stories in the Bible were myths made up my men thousands of years ago and had no relevance to me whatsoever. After watching The Passion for the first time in years, I wept. I felt sick after seeing what Jesus went through for me even after the life I lived. How could I have been so ungrateful? I heard the story since I was a child in Catholic school but never realized what this Man went through for us. Actually seeing what was done to His body made a difference for me, it made it real. I've been reading the Gospels now in a whole different way, as if it was real and the truth, because it is. I never believed in the shroud until recently. After seeing the damage done to His body in the movie and seeing the wounds that were documented in the shroud I now have no doubt it is real. I highly recommend everyone watch the Passion of the Christ, it's a life changing movie once you realize it really happened.
The mass, confession and receiving the Holy Euchrist is a blessing so necessary in our relationship with God. Please look into this. For healing and freedom and the love of God.
What an explosive start to 2023 content! Wow! I defy you to top this interview in the remainder of this year, Matt! This was AWESOME! And thank you, Father Dalton, for sharing your time and expertise so generously with all of us! Glory to Jesus Christ!
Thank you for TRUTH.....
I am a Baptist. I have never heard a better explanation of the crucifixion than the one you guys gave. I thought you pausing to pray for folks who want to be believers in Jesus was great.
Lovely. 100% agree
This was fantastic! I can’t believe I watched the whole 3 hours, but I did. Couldn’t turn it off. Oh my goodness, what He endured for us. For me. 😢
@kinglear5952 also baptist but tbh i am now part denominations. Corruption exists in all ministries. Adult baptism is sacred to me as it is biblical. The reverence of orthodox and catholics, especially monastic, is compelling. How I move forward with my own seminary studies is going to be difficult. What I do know, is meditations on the cross, my own pain in combination with surrender and prayer has brought me to Christ. I watched this now 3 times.
Baptist? You must repent of your sins you must be born again. This Catholic Church is not of God it is of Satan. God's word says do not make on yourself any graving image yet they're engraving images all over the Catholic church grounds! There's one mediator between man and God, Christ Jesus! Why do Catholics pray to Mary, a Lost Sinner that was headed for hell, blessed above all women in the fact that she is the only woman who ever had or ever would be able to have her own savior come from her womb. She is not someone to be worshiped. God is the only one to be worshiped that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ created everything, including Mary.
Your good works will not get you to heaven they will only get you to help. Through the righteousness of Jesus Christ is the only way you get to heaven. Our good works are as filthy rags before God. We get there is because of how good God is through his grace and his Mercy his love his forgiveness. Being baptized as an infant will not save anyone. You must repent you must be born again a baby cannot do that. You are a sinner and you have to realize that and repent and accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made on the cross for your sins.
shroud is not His. He was only there 3 days!
I believe that Jesus Christ is too small to be contained in one little box. He is the Creator and wants to inhabit the whole Universe that He made, but most of all He wants to live in the heart of each of His creatures/ persons.
This is incredible to me. I am a recent convert to Christianity again, but I was still struggling to believe in the resurrection. As an engineer by trade, this talk seems like absolute proof of the resurrection. I don’t know how you’d make this mark so perfectly unless the body itself emanated amazing amounts of light. This needs to be shown everywhere.
At the lobby of our church, there’s an altar dedicated to the articles of the Shroud of Turin with pictures of different sections of the Shroud. When our pastor was explaining how the scientific facts proved Jesus’ Resurrection, he cried and could hardly go on.
Jesus is the light of the world!
I'm convinced that the image was made when the dunsmis power of the Holy Spirit brought Jesus back to life. It can't be explained any other way.
Yes! Amazing unfathomable amounts of light ~ God Himself, the Light!
The official scientific conclusion is that this shroud is a proven forgery. It was made in about 1300's (the same time when it was first "discovered") All this hype around it, is a very basic Catholic immorality, it is like with the Catholic mystics like Padre Pio. It is all made up to keep the hype up. They will seriously answer to God for this.
I was led back to Christianity this year after years of unhappiness in new age practices .. This conversation about Jesus crucifixion is so so sad but has helped me love Jesus and my faith even more ❤
Same!
I wish my 28 year old daughter could talk to you. She is deep into new age practices. She is not happy in her life today. Left Jesus in her early twenties and found new age religious beliefs. She came from a Christian home . Praise God your back in his arms!
@@juliecox8694 Thankyou Julie! You never know who can be saved .. just 6months ago I was a practising astrologer and reiki ‘healer’ .. I gave it all up and I pray your daughter may aswell ❤️
@@elenasodyssey8087 Thank you Elena! All I can do as a parent is pray that Jesus leads her back to him. She works at Whole Foods, a very new agey store. She has been pushing me away, is not coming to our family Easter dinner tomorrow because she says she does not practice Christian holidays. I am just so heartbroken over this.
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I am devoted to the shroud, one day I was meditating in my bedroom on the Passion with the image of Jesus back from the shroud and I felt a very intense presense at my side, I knew it was Jesus, I could not see Him, but I was overwhelmed with sorrow and I understood how I had done this to Him and I cried and cried and asked Him for forgiveness, I was hugging my pillow because I wanted to hug Our lord so bad!! It was truly a mystical experience! Thanks be to God!❤
Amen! 🙏🏼👼🏻💕
Unfortunately for you, it is proven to be a forgery beyond a shadow of a doubt and not only by science! But the artist who made the shroud confessed that it was a forgery! Moreover, there is no credible way to harmonize the biblical evidence regarding Jesus's burial with the image on the shroud of Turin! It is definitely a forgery. Even the Pope says that it was a man-made icon but not a historical one!!!
God wants to live in your heart and will hold you in His arms always.
What a blessing. I was going to be on my way to the pub for some alone time, but merely clicking on this video, assuming I would be able to resume it later, has left me gripped to my laptop for three straight hours. There's so much that I didn't know about the history, science and theology of this incredible relic, the narrative fulfillment of the Genesis passages in the Passion blew my mind, and I definitely cried somewhere in the middle. God Bless you Father Andrew, and God be with all who are evangelized by the face of Jesus!
I've watched this at least 3 times and for someone like me (a 50 year old potential Catholic convert from non-practicing methodist studying at the Church of the Internet), the science is what reaffirms my belief after God revealed Himself to me 20 years ago. However, I was on my way out of the house when Father started to speak about the referencing of thorns and thickets throughout the Bible and I had to come back and take notes in my Bible. Those references are gold.
"the Church of the Internet" lol. Can you describe how God revealed himself to you? I'm very interested in such things.
What is the deal with all of us “Methodist, potential Catholic coverts”? I saw this and thought, “What? You too?” 😂
Theeeres a ram in a thicket sooomewheere, theres a ram in a thicket somewhere, somewhere, dont be scared, look over there, theres a ram in a thicket somewhere.
Please look into Christianity BIBLE BASED only non denominational. The Catholic Church is WAY INVOLVED with idol worship and traditional beliefs non biblical .
@@tombourne9930 The Catholic Church actually has the more accurate reading of the Bible
Matt, I'm so grateful for you and for the blessing to share about the amazing love of our Lord Jesus Christ. May he continue to bless you and your listeners, whom I also thank for their kind and encouraging words. With my love and priestly blessing, Fr Andrew
Thank you so much!
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Hello. Could you please forward the following to Andrew Dalton. It would be great to get first hand statements on my claims. Many thanks:
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels!
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!?
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus.
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels!
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!?
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus.
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
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NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels!
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!?
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus.
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels!
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of RUclips channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body (except the head) was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). Despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!?
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in linen with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been almost impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus.
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
THANK YOU for this EXCELLENT segment with Father Andrew! I am a Protestant: "Born Again" Evangelical Christian who regularly enjoys Pints with Aquinas (THANK YOU Matt!) EWTN (started watching Mother Angelica 28 years ago as a new Believer) and other videos/ broadcasts re: Catholic/ Orthodox traditions, Church history, etc. Father Dalton is a Treasure Trove of knowledge about the Shroud, and the scriptures, and by the end of this video I was crying tears of JOY and praising God once again for His sinless sacrifice for us! I especially appreciated the discussion of how Jesus perfectly fulfills EVERY Messianic scripture/ prophesy, and all of the details about the Crown of Thorns, "thorns and thickets", Abraham/ Issac, etc. The Word is SOOO DETAILED and so AMAZING, just like our Jesus, and Father Andrew is so gifted in his eloquent descriptions.
Praise be to God, and BLESSINGS to you both for your dedication to sharing the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ! 💜🙏✝🕊
Cam you show the web side again or the hallo
Why do you put Born Again in quotes? Are you being sarcastic or are you unsure that you are born again. Not being rude just curious
So easy to listen to 3 hours of Father Dalton talking about the Shroud. May the Lord bless his mission greatly.
Just checked the time. I can't believe how fast this program was. You are absolutely right.
So easy to be deluded.....
2:58:13 I love this! Protestant here. I have pretty much no experience with the Catholic Church, but this man is the real deal in the Kingdom of Heaven! Thank you for your passion in preaching about Jesus! This felt like many sermons I’ve sat under in my Baptist (and many Methodist) churches. The passion, knowledge, understanding of scripture is contagious. Thank you for being a vessel that God is definitely using to expand His kingdom.
We are all Protestants, even us Catholics. It is noble to protest the thing that you love turning into a vestige in the clasp of Satan. The irony of this is that if the Devil is after it, it must be something we can consider belonging to God.
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Study the history of Catholicism … and the Early Church. Put side by side their belief systems. Know your 66 books of the Bible… by praying to God and asking Him for complete knowledge and truth…and be wise.
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusanThe early church held the exact same beliefs as the Catholic Church today. In fact the early church called itself Catholic in the very first century king before Constantine. They also had the same teachings & customs, be that the Eucharist, veneration to Mary etc etc
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusan why did Protestants remove 7 books of the original Bible in the 1800’s?
Three hours of chills!!! Praise be to Jesus Christ!! Thank you so much for this video!🙏🙏🙏
My late father conducted talks about the Shroud of Turin. He was with this lady, who I forgot her name now, that started it all. Am Filipino and a closed Catholic. My siblings and I are blessed to have had a father who, in the last 2 decades of his life, dedicated his remaining years to evangelizing to his family, friends and strangers. More power and blessings to you Fr. Dalton. 🙏
Not a catholic but I'm only an hour in and I've cried several times while driving. Even if it weren't authentic, the power or the details and descriptions and possible actual image of Christ's sufferings is life altering.
The crying is the Holy Spirit working on you. That is a grace from our Blessed Lord.
Yes this is the precious work of the Holy Spirit which has penetrated your dark heart, and mine.
I am a returning Catholic but it is all about the love of the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is active in our day, here, and now. Didache, the teaching and theology, is wonderful and helps guide and enlighten us, but Wonder, Mercy, and His Presence is what throws us to our knees.
@@jacobortega3424you have your "facts" mixed up.
Watch the video.
John Towle did more for you than Jesus ever did.
I’m a professional iconographer(Orthodox), and I have a near-life sized print of the Shroud in my iconography studio. As far as I am concerned it is the first icon of Christ and it is a constant reminder to me as to whom I serve. Great episode ❤️☦️
Yes. The first icon. Bearing witness of what is.
Do you believe it was from the time od christ
Manufactured in the middle ages.
Not quite. I do love the shroud as a testimonial relic. However, The Ark of the Covenant, the MercySeat, with our Great High Priest Yeshua’s blood upon it, predates the shroud and the glory-photographing of the Resurrection miracle. This Ark received His blood sprinkled according to fulfillment the Law to make Atonement for mankind. Jeremiah hid up the Ark and it was beneath Golgotha to receive the Holy Blood of Jesus…and He said: “It is finished.” And He gave up the ghost. It is the 1st witness to the Christ; the Shroud is the 2nd. There may be more relics, but by 2 or 3 witnesses shall every word/work of God be established.
If you're an Orthodox icon maker, you know that is not the first icon of Christ. What about the Image of Edessa, the image not-made-by- hand during the Christ's earthly life?
When I came to realize that the Shroud was real and proved the Resurrection it forced me to acknowledge that Christ was Lord, and that if He did rise then I had to change my life. It lead directly to me becoming Catholic. Within 6 months of coming to believe In Jesus Christ I was enrolled in RCIA, and within the year I am now a part of His Church. Praise be to God.
beautiful! Praise God for your journey
Father Dalton’s way of speaking is so eloquent. The Lord has blessed us with this miracle. I appreciate this interview very much. I loved his ‘homily’ at the end, where he ties everything together. Thank you to the interviewer and to Father Dalton for his passion that he brings with him for The Shroud of Turin.
Wow. This got me. I’ve been slowly coming to Jesus the past few years. This morning I went from 15% there to 99
The prayer he gave must have also helped 😁 Praise be Jesus Christ ❤❤ I'm praying for you
@@lolafiiona7014 thank you 😊
I hope your at 100% now
Hope you have seen video of Ron Wyatt who found Jesus' blood :)
I love your honesty! My experience was, once I gave my whole heart to Jesus, acknowledging who He is (Son of God) and who I was (an imperfect sinful man) willfully surrendering my last 1%, it made all the difference in my life AND in the life of others around me. I was still the SAME person but my outlook on life was different, I had hope, I was able to love more, to be more compassionate, more confident, content, forgiving and grateful for my life. Not looking back at my past but transformed into the person God made me to be… that I always wanted to be…I discovered freedom from any past guilt & shame… I could now ask for forgiveness and forgive others experiencing reconciliation. I don’t know you but I wish you too to have the same personal relationship with Jesus… you will not regret. We humans love imperfectly but His love will not change!!!
I was washing dishes, listening to this, and it absolutely made me burst into tears as well. Had to get down on my knees.
I had the same reaction. I'm listening to this for the second time so I can give my CCD class some real information on the Shroud. When I heard how many wounds were on the body I immediately went up to the Divine Mercy Shrine...I live 15 minutes away...and did their outdoor Stations of the Cross...felt compelled to.
The writer of a song called "How Big is God?" says "He's big enough to make the wondrous Universe, but small enough to live within your heart." Thank you, Jesus.
I could have listened to Father Dalton speak about the shroud for another three hours.
This was incredibly interesting, thought provoking, uplifting, heartbreaking but seeing the obvious delight Fr Dalton has for this incredible topic is a joy to behold.
I'm so grateful for Pints With Aquinas for putting this together.
God bless.
The last 30 minutes of this was the most beautiful evangelical explanation of the crown of thorns and Adam and Eve and Isaac being almost sacrificed. It explained the reason for Jesus being called the second Adam - the perfect lamb- the veil being torn- - Jesus finished the costly penalty for sin in our place. We should be so humbled and overwhelmed by The Love of God and the willingness of Jesus to suffer so much for us.
We must have the willingness to stand for His Truth no matter the risk, for there is no greater risk to self than stand for nothing.
I am not very religious all though I did spend the first 12 years of my life going to church because my grandparents made us go every Sunday but this is all very fascinating and this guy really knows his stuff and the way he says it and his enthusiasm really does inspire me to reconsider getting back into it. Fantastic job, I am blown away
Along with the evidence for the shroud of Turin look into the evidence for the resurrection and adding both together you have a case for Christianity using scientific and historical method
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I'm happy to hear that😊. The thing we have to remember is that we can't judge Jesus and His validity, by his representatives on earth who are sinful and imperfect. What I guess I'm saying is even if you aren't comfortable in church, you can have a relationship with Jesus right in your bedroom. God is everywhere and would continue to exist if every church and priest, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox were destroyed. So, it's easy to ease back into it, by just reestablishing your Relationship with Jesus and talking to him. Then he will help you find the right church. I've seen God do some amazing miracles.
@MarisaHoarethe guy who picked holes in his hands? Poor guy.
But your gonna die soon, this life isn't long, nothing here will last forever. There is no risk in following Jesus and trusting him. There is a huge risk in ignoring his existence it's not worth meeting Satan. We all want proof and we have proof Satan's actions are not hidden, they are all around you, the horrors of this world, the evil that is. The evil makes sure it hides the truth from us. When you have faith their is no fear of death, who cares if you die tomorrow If you know your going to a better place forever. Imagine the hell scape world if we was all atheist and where cut off from God's existence? If more could find their way to him the world would only become a better place, we need you to be a warrior of God and find him, and get out and spread the word, we need you and you need him.
The "Hound of Heaven", the Holy Spirit, continues to follow you just as the Good Shepherd cares for you. Read your Bible always asking the Holy Spirit to interpret for you. God bless you.
This is the best PWA episode (and I’ve watched a lot!!) I learned about the shroud around 5 years ago, converted to Catholicism 2 years ago and now my faith has increased more after watching this. Thank you Matt for having Fr Dalton on. What a gift to me! I’ve sent it to many others too.
Wonderful Chanera I'm so glad you joined the faith!
I read and watch a lot of murder cases and forensic type shows. I can take a LOT. I can handle hearing about things that will curl your hair. THIS brought tears to my eyes, especially when the priest suggested Jesus repeating, Father, forgive them, Father forgive them..."
It made me cry when you described what my Lord and Savior went through. Not just on the cross but the beating He took for me. How the thorns were driven into His head, how heavy the cross was. Even if the shroud is not proven, it won’t change my belief or my love for Jesus.
As a protestant I am blessed by this stream
Me too.
I can not stop listening to this! I have to find this Father Dalton elsewhere. I am a devout Christian but not even Catholic! I think his denomination is blessed to have him in a lead role in the topic he teaches!
You may also be a glorious fascinated with the Eucharistic miracles to take time to learn about the Miracles of the Eucharist
I can not stop listening either!
Sorry but the Catholic church is not a denomination the Catholic church is the only Christian church, you protestants and your sect are heretics denominations
This Father Andrew Dalton is one of a kind...We have Father Dalton here in our parish, was ordained less 2 years ago, but acting and over powering our in- charge priest...so, be aware....
Sis i hope you understand as others here Catholics are christian it's just a denomination name the real church don't forget started with Peter Thus where all other churches come from and broke off Catholics are christian like you yet not all obviously because like even in regular churches they don't preach on Salvation and gospel message of Christ and many churches are accepting sin to be allowed like LGBTQ. Or having lesbian ministers and gay pastors when the bible is very clear on homosexuality as sin that must be repented or. I grew up a Baptist in a Baptist Church these Catholics grew up as believers in Christ in the Catholic Church just a demonization I had to write this sadly because most Christians think Catholics aren't christian like hello they believe and worship Christ lol though as said there's many false Christians in the Catholic Church such as the Roman Catholic beliefs are far from the actual Bibles teachings they follow men and mens ways not God. Though there's good Christians slash Catholics also who are saved and have accepted Christ as lord and do follow Christ and walking in love and forgiveness and a daily repentance....
Jesus didn't just die for us he endured the most painful death in history for us...THANK YOU LORD JESUS
You said it best Boz, (namesake of my favorite singer/songwriter)!
@@bozboz4414 Amen
Thank you, Lord.
Each time I watched "The Fabric of Life", I wept. Watching this now, I cannot wipe the smile from my face: HE IS RISEN!!! Hallelujah! PRAISE the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
PS This protestant family loves our Catholic brethren and we pray for you every night.
I love this priest’s love and passion for God and Christ.
Looks gay
Yes! He just glows with his love for Christ.
I wish they'd have more passion for god and less passion for those of us who were altar boys.
I hope you weren't harmed. In defense of individuals who are innocent of such things- every one is a person who must answer for their actions or inaction. Jesus,God,the Holy Spirit will NOT be mocked. If so- I pray you will be healed,emotionally, physically,and spiritually,and be blessed for your suffering☘️❤️🕊️✝️🦁@@AstroKid513
Yep, Astro me too. A priest moved from parish to parish until a massive lawsuit had to be publicly settled. Defrocked, he passed before I could go visit him and offer forgiveness in Jesus’ name. I never found out how he lived out his life.
Passing this on to friends and family. As a scientist, I deeply appreciate these conversations where faith and reason are “wings” raising the human spirit. Loved this conversation, Matt.
We so often in our field are called to defend our faith on a whim with little to no preparation or honest dialogues. It feels as if we need to justify why God exists rather asking how God can not exist.
Appreciate you, brother.
Brilliant
Interesting that secular “scientists” deliberately ignore the plausibility there is a God. I would think an objective mind would consider all possibilities in order to maintain their credibility. Not only do they refuse honest dialogue, they will viciously attack and attempt to destroy any ideas or theories contrary to their beliefs. That would be a difficult field to be involved with. There are many very capable, accomplished and extremely intelligent Christian scientists.
Hello everyone, I just watched this earlier in the day, alone; kids and even dogs were out enjoying this beautiful Pentecost Sunday. I stayed to wash dishes and start a RUclips video of one of my favorite channels PWA. I cried at times listening to the description Father Dalton related of our Lord and Saviour. The tears in turn helped unlock a poignant childhood memory; how as a 6 year old I sat on the floor, crying as i watched a movie of Christ Jesus being crucified. My father must have heard me because he came over to see what was wrong. I know it endeared him then. Today, I decided to learn more about the Shroud of Turin so as to be able to share with others the Immense Love God has for us all. Thank you both for this presentation!
2 Timotheus 3
16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
1 Corinthians 15 (NKJB)
1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
2 Timothy 3,16+17
ALL SCRIPTURE [Old and New Testament] is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Hebrew 4,12
For the WORD OF GOD is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
John 14,26 (gospels)
But the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS], the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 15,26+27 (acts)
“But when the Helper [comforter, PARACLETOS] comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.
John 16,13 (epistles and revelation)
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
Fr Andrew Dalton is riveting. I just hang on his every word. He described so powerfully what Our Blessed Lord suffered at the garden, at his scourging, the crowning of thorns and the terrible way they nailed Our Precious Lord on that wooden beam and raised Him to hang on the Cross. I just broke down and cried. He did it all to save us.
When they described the soil on the feet, knees and nose ( that was broken ) I was overcome with grief. The thought that my own sinfulness in a very real way caused my Lord to endure this is unbearable.
And yet, HE also receives our sin as a gift so that HE may be close to us ❤️ Such a beautiful and spousal Savior; HE truly receives us in full. (Look up Loved and Wounded by praise nation if you’d like.) God bless you!!
It's honestly difficult to think about.
When you see the damage that was inflicted its hard not to feel for the person.
Come on , countless other man and women have endured punishments of this kind and even worse tortures and died from no sin whatsoever except to the displeasure of some tyrannical king or despot !
I share your sorrow,it is VERY difficult to face the hellish suffering he endured,if we turn away from sin, his incredible sacrifice will not be in vain.
Don't put too much on yourself, we are all sinners in a World and a condition designed by The Lord, it is a very realistic, dramatic, tragic divine play and we all play equal parts.
You’ve now surpassed any Joe Rogan episode I’ve seen. The Catholic Experience is an incredible ride. God Bless PWA!
I think Father Dalton should appear in Joe Rogan, it would be a great opportunity for evangelization and science propagation.
Indeed!!
Have you seen his interview with Jordan Peterson?
@@Sethpc Joe Rogan is not a fan of Christ.
@@gianlucarossi5672 yes, specially in regards to the Holy Mother Church, so sad. But still others can benefit just by presenting the evidence.
One of the best guests youve had yet. His passion for the the truth of Christ and the shroud is inspiring. Just as anyones should be by the miraculous that God has shown us. I cant imagine anyone not believing in Christ when they look into the miraculous.
It was a miracle when I first believed. Something I thought impossible until I met Jesus one Day as I walked with Him, I soon realized it was "He" and didn't even know it until reality set in and Scripture was alive within me, the love, the sustanance and assurance was all there. I was filled with awe, I was so happy, I cried. I just wept typing this because he died, replaced by joy, because He lives! Thank you for your work Andrew. I woke up to this video, this Morning an hour ago blasting on my TV set! Thank You Jesus!.......
Yes,Jesus loves me,yes,Jesusloves me,🎶yes,Jesuslovesme,🎶…the bibletells me so !!!💖🎶🙏❣️
Thank you Father Andrew & Matt Fradd!! I’m a believer. This information is amazing!! I read the papers in ‘88, but I didn’t believe them. Since I heard about The Shroud, & read about it when I was young, I have always believed it was the burial cloth of Jesus. I do believe it is the result of the “nature effect of a supernatural event”!! Thank you both for this 3 hour event!! This is the 4th time I’ve watched it.
Father Dalton is indeed a brilliant and scholarly man. I appreciated this very much. His well earned and proficient wisdom and learned approach to sharing that as if people can think truly touched me. Makes me proud to be a Catholic and it has been some time since I have seen what makes me feel that. Thank You!
Matt, thank you for this amazing interview. Certainly sharing it with many in my life. How amazing is Fr. Dolton. Well done with such passion and devotion. Jesus is the Supernatural power we all need to have permanently in our lives at all times. well done and thank you from OZ.
Already shared link on Facebook. Thank you for doing this interview. I imagine the Trinity saying, “We have their attention. Let them wrestle through the night, many nights.”
I like how you bring reason to the point of faith, where free will drives the next step. I have not been able to identify the source of the words on a favorite can cozy. After watching this, I’m thinking maybe Jesus should get the credit. “If you’re not living on the edge, you’re taking up too much space.” The Shroud as a revelation of the Resurrection bring us to the edge.
If I may, I’d like to share what I’ve felt led to-about divine blessing and God’s hope for humanity. I have faith in divine blessing, that God’s lovingkindness guides and sustains all creation. Further, we are invited to say Yes to God’s hope for humanity-that we embrace, embody, and express God’s lovingkindness. Jesus demonstrated the depth of our human capacity to love when we are open to the Father’s love and the power and wisdom of the Holy Spirit. We can fulfill God’s hope for humanity. We can cultivate kindness and create a culture of kindness.
Be the blessing, be the light. Commit to kindness, mindful kindness. Pause, breathe, choose. Choose kindness, mindful kindness. Namaste.
I can say I converted to be Catholic because I watched about shroud of Turin for the first time when I was 12 years old. After that day I saw Jesus in different way.
So we can say that the shroud is causing miracles of conversion. I mean from doubt to belief. !
I love the paradox of such an incomprehensibly delicate and yet likewise powerful image. Nanometers wide, made with profound energy. Gentility and power married together, just like Him. He is a gentle stream, a stream that never stops flowing, no matter what.
Absolutely 😮
Fellow believers, if you are reading this, can you pray for my sister Catherine?
😢
She has been diagnosed with cervical cancer.
She has a CAT SCAN Friday to see how advanced it is.
She needs salvation and healing.
Ask our Lord to pour out His Holy Spirit upon her to bring her to salvation and also supernaturally heal her.
I am afraid she will give up and I want her to be here when Yeshua returns to set up His millenial Kingdom.
Thank you.
😢😢😢
Not a believer but I really hope your sister is okay.
Prayers sent.
Praying
God please bless your sister and heal her. I pray that you find peace in His decision. I will never fear death because it’s our eternal life that is glorious. I pray my children come back to the Catholic Church and total belief in Jesus.
❤❤❤ I prayed for you both
I hope you are doing okay, nearly a year later
The shroud played an important role in my conversion. I was an Agnostic.
The shroud is the physical evidence for Christ's Resurrection.
@@captivedesk3168 And which dye is that?
@@captivedesk3168 Watch the video. All these arguments have been debunked long time ago.
@@captivedesk3168 funny because they can’t re create now. So obviously the claim was debunked. Watch the video
It's proof of His life, death & resurrection & proves that everything that's spoken about Jesus in the Gospels is 100% TRUTH.
@@captivedesk3168 Hey, if you’re curious, you should watch Metatron’s breakdown of the authenticity of the shroud. He says the painting hypothesis has been thrown out pretty much, no scientific evidence of pigmentation or techniques used by artisans. Plus he mentioned they could identify the shroud indeed had real blood, AB- I believe. Several hypotheses that attempt to explain the creation of the image also exceed our current understanding of the laws of physics. I don’t base my faith on the shroud, but many arguments I’ve heard against it just don’t hold muster. *Also, it is in fact dated to medieval era, but this is likely because they only took a sample from one area of the shroud. Reweaving I think is to have been done for a fabric so old, hence would not be surprised to find if different areas of the shroud are different ages.
I too am a protestant believer and like Amanda, couldn't stop weeping listening to this amazing presentation on the Shroud of Turin! Thank you! He is risen! He is risen indeed!
I'm on a Lenten slump. The devil working double time here. And I was praying to God and to Mary to help me rekindle my relationship with my faith at this time (most especially). And I had a sudden urge to look at some new stuff from Pints with Aquinas and it led me here. I feel pumped to be Catholic. Thank you Matt. Thank you Jesus! ❤
You can pray to Mary all you want but there is only one way to the father and it isn't Mary.
@@hcox1111 Catholics pray to Mary as an intercessor with her son. they do not worship her, and yes asking Mary is a way to get to Jesus
@@NewNostalgia Mary is not necessary to get to Jesus you are misled. Jesus is the only way to the father and you don't need Mary.
@hcox1111 Do you plan to tell Jesus to his face that his mother isn't important? It isn't about needing Mary in order to get something; it's about loving her because she is, as the angel said, "full of grace". Asking someone to pray for you is Biblical and meaningful. How much more so asking the mother of Christ to pray for us!
@@MagnusVonBlack He will tell me well done for not being deceived.
Thank you Fr Dalton for explaining these studies. As a Catholic and a scientist listening to the details that have been discovered from the Shroud, connecting to the events of Jesus's Passion and Death, has truly touched my heart in a way I can't put into words. I pray this episode and further studies into the Shroud will bring unbelievers to belief 🙏 I will be looking at the cross and pray the sorrowful mysteries in much different way from now on. Thank you.
This is one of the best interviews I have listened to in a long time. He was so fascinating. Please bring him back on.
This was incredible! That man’s enthusiasm is contagious. Praise God for his service to the Church!
Hello there, I am so blessed to know Jesus and to have the hope of Him. I am a protestant, and I’ve never really cared if the shroud of Turin was authentic or not. Like you guys said, it wouldn’t change my faith either way. But some of the things I heard on this podcast Really got me excited! Thanks so much for the discussion.
So why do you believe because you are scared of hell?
@@Awaiting_YHWHs_Return I believe because God reached out to me in a personal, intimate way when I was struggling in my life and God let me know that He was patient and kind and merciful and He is where I belong.
@@Awaiting_YHWHs_ReturnNo because he loves Jesus. The only people who need to fear hell are those who deny Christ
@@TheAmosTree "not everyone who says to me lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven" so not everyone who loves "jesus" will make it.
I’ve seen many Shroud presentations since I first saw an exhibition in Canberra Australia with the actual Shroud in 1984 as a 17 yr old , but this one wove a biblical reality through it, and brought the Passion to life. Not ashamed to say that I was in tears contemplating Jesus suffering for me, all of us so profoundly animated by Father. What an extraordinary mind and heart for Jesus he has
This is one of those podcasts that has turbo charged my relationship with and dedicated life to Jesus.
So grateful for this experience. I could literally listen to Matt interview him for many more hours
The Shroud of Turin has never been to Australia. It has been only in Turin since 1578.
In 1578, the house of Savoy moved the shroud to the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, which later became part of Italy. It has remained there ever since, with the exception of World War II, when Italy relocated it for safekeeping.
It is such a valuable relic of the Catholic Church that it has been protected and kept in the same Cathedral for the past 445 years.
You may have seen one of the replicas, but in order to see the original you have to travel to Turin, Italy.
The Shroud was never on public display between 1978 and 2000.
@@jeffscully50613 there you go. Always thought it was the original, but must’ve been a facsimile. Interesting to have seen it as a 17yr old , and now I’ve reverted, profound to delve deeper into it
Thanks for the information and detail on the actual shroud
@eddiej9733 I've seen posts of others on social media claiming to have seen the actual Shroud of Turin in places other than Italy. Apparently in the early-mid 1980s there was a traveling exposition with a facsimile of the Shroud.
It is such a valuable (and fragile) relic that it would be impossible for it to be traveling anywhere.
There are many replicas today traveling the world with experts giving lectures on this amazing relic.
The next time it will be open to the public is in 2025. Of course, in Turin.
@@jeffscully50613 of course. Thinking about it now it is the most extraordinary artefact in existence and also the most fragile. I didn’t give it much of a thought at the time. We were on a family bonding holiday after the tragic death of my mother.
I always thought it was a kooky item, later ‘proved’ as a forgery by the labs, only to have some serious credibility when one looks at the research and data in greater detail
I think its most powerful attribute is the reality and detail it brings to Jesus’ torture and finally death.
A reminder that the things in the bible actually took place and that Jesus substitutionary acts were beyond comprehension
Thanks for the info and correction. It has been much appreciated
Fr. Dalton spoke at my University a couple weeks ago, and it was so amazing! He answered the questions I had that this podcast did not explain fully.
Wow! How cool!
So happy to catch up with this story. My children were 1 and 3 when they did the old test in the 70's. I remember anxiously waiting to find out about the results of 1988. This so has opened my heart in a way I can't explain. But it reminds me of my first experiences in Sunday School when I was 4 - 5. I was a child of empathy, trust, and joy. I remember having love and tears for Jesus and felt so close to Jesus then. Thank you for reawakening those memories and feelings as well as the fact that Jesus continues in his pain for use. I don't imagine I'll stop my tears tonight.... maybe never now that my mind understands what my heart has known for so long. Bless you teaching and you two men.
This is the 3rd time listening to this podcast and won't be the last. The information is so enormous. The detail, the kmowledge far outreaching. Thank you.
It's truly amazing, isn't it
I'm with you!
I’m watching it for the 2nd time and I think I’m gonna make it a yearly thing to watch during Holy Week or Easter. Too much information for me to hold on to lol.
This was amazing, I wish this was 6 hours longer! What a pleasure to hear Fr. Andrew, the things he said and with the heart that he said them moved me to tears. Thank you so much for this, I wish everyone knew about the Shroud, it really does have the power to make unbelievers believe, to get them to know our Lord Jesus
I am very early in my faith journey after going my entire life with very little information about Christianity. But when I saw the face in the shroud I literally had to catch my breath, it was so beautiful and pure. I’ve been looking to educate myself further and try to find “proof” of Jesus and the resurrection, and I feel like this podcast was something I’ve been looking for for a while, even though I didn’t know what the shroud even was. It’s the type of scientific data that I’ve been searching for.
Thank you thank you thank you for talking about this!!!
I work in Archeology and have never heard of this remarkable artifact. Grant it I work with much younger funerary traditions so it’s not necessarily in my wheelhouse but I just went and bought a book and am trying to soak in as much information as possible. It is truly exciting to learn about, I can see why the priest couldn’t sleep after that lecture!
I also cried and keep on crying by seeing the face of our HOLY LORD JESUS CHRIST on the Shroud! We can go out and spread the good news of salvation!!!!! IT IS VERY URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt, I am very happy for you. When I started watching you, you had about 150K subscribers. Now you have 300K. You are inspiring many and leading people to the Church. Good work.
I love this analysis by Fr. Andrew Dalton especially the detail of the enormous amount of excruciating suffering that Jesus underwent for all our sins. This makes it so real and alive in the moment of Jesus's passion for all of humanity.
I am so impressed by this young priest's intelect, languages skills, scientific mind and communication skills. He is so likable! But, moreover; he is informatively believable and enthrawling!
Be careful. Stick to Gods Word… in accuracy. Not man. Yes the info on the Shroud is incredible!
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusanThis priest claims to be nothing but a man 🤦
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusan you keep popping up to lecture people on following the Bible. You realize men wrote the Bible, yes?
Surprisingly 3 hours flew by because of the quality of what is shared and the sincerity of these two men.
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This show is incredible. Just watched this, and prayed with tears for the conversion of hearts. Praise God for His mercy. Thank you
I’ve been fascinated with this since the 80’s. I would love for Fr. Dalton to come to our parish. He is so smart but humble. What’s so sad for me is that the atheists in my life wouldn’t even deign to listen to this. They’d refuse to go to the lives presentation, too. God is giving us torrents of signs and wonders and the disbelief in them seems obstinate. Prayers, prayers, prayers. 🙏🙏🙏
Father Dalton is so impressive, if I had heard this when I was 13 I would have never left the faith.. this is what young people need to hear
How would you know? You left.
Ask some who stayed and was a devout young practicing Catholic.
Totally agree, why doesn’t everyone know this? It’s crazy. I won’t let my nieces and nephews get to grade 7 without already knowing at least some of this
No, you were very right to leave the Catholic faith!!!!! It's an apostacy
@@greggrimer1428 God loves humility more than any other grace.
The fact that you say, with great pride, that you stayed within the church does not make you any more of a Christian than the girl who left and returned.
God is all about love.
Maybe you should develop your love for others and try to appreciate the path they took and that they found a way back to God.
I'm a long time listener and Patreon supporter, and I think this is one of you best episodes ever. Huge thanks to Father Dalton for sharing this wonderful information. Faith and reason - the data from the scientific examination of the shroud is great miracle of the modern age.
THIS IS LIFE CHANGING! As much as I already love Jesus...this brought me to a place of worship and gratitude that was deeper than I've ever been before. Thank you!
I have been an advocate of the Shroud since the original research group back in the 1970's. Tracing the theology of the thorns back to Genesis was just profound from my point of view. As a Protestant, this was fascinating and uplifting. Well done.
I learned so much about the shroud today. I knew it was a cruxified person in the shroud now I know it is of Jesus Christ our redeemer. thank you very much. God bless you both for sharing this video.
This is excellent. I went through all this with my year nine girls when I was a teacher. I’m retired for years now but it’s great we are still believing! I didn’t believe the news it was fake and didn’t even read about it properly. It’s very confirming of Gods Resurrection of Jesus ❤️
This is absolutely amazing! I’ve not heard any of this before in my life. I saw the shroud picture you pulled up and just began ugly crying. I don’t even have the words to describe the feeling. Wow. Just wow!
I consider the image his final act of love while in the physical body. I had a major falling away from God few years back. Then I tried to come back to God but it felt very ritualistic and I could never regain the original connect with God. I kept asking for it and eventually came across a video explaining the Shroud of Turin. Watching it brought back memories of when I first fell in love with God, it was his sufferings on the cross and the realisation it was all for me that made me love him. Watching the video made me realise it again and made me break into tears, it's been a few weeks and i am able to feel his presence when i pray (which i had lost). I think the this was the purpose of the Shroud, to remind and bring back people like me into realising his love
I'm not catholic but I am a Christian believer in Jesus. This is the most sincere priest I have ever heard.
A lot of them are this sincere, in my very short experience with the Church.
Look up the bodily assumption of Mary in the Bible
@@montanaperkins9418I'm no Bible scholar, but I don't remember the assumption of Mary being mentioned in the Bible.
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Was she not sinless? She couldn't just die like sinners. That's you, me & all but Jesus & Mary. God made His own mother. Would she be less that perfect for the job? God intended us all for union with Him. Our first parents blew plan A. Plan B for all but Jesus & Mary & of those only Jesus rose again on His own. Mary had to have been assumed away from this sinful world. She is the OT Revelation Woman (new Ark of new Covenant) who crushes the head of the serpent.
@@maryqcarnes4482How could she be sinless? Only the finished work of the cross does that. The only sinless one was Jesus. I am not saying Mary was not a good woman, only that she was a woman.
No one is sinless. We can believe what Jesus did and are changed, but that is the only way and Jesus said He was the only way to the Father. The Bible doesn't talk about Mary's death. John, the Baptist's death is in there, Paul's death is recorded, but not Mary's death. She was human. She still had to go to the Father through Jesus even though she was his mother. That is Biblical.
Still not saying that she was not a good woman. Just that as a human, she could only go to heaven because of what Jesus did and not her good works.
The Bible says our works are like dirty rags. That means we can do nothing to earn Salvation, it is a gift. If you have to work for a gift, it is no longer a gift, it is your pay cheque.
The Bible also says that Faith without works is dead. The Faith in the finished work of the cross comes first. The works, or good deeds, come from a humble gratitude of what Jesus did and wanting to share the love we experienced with others. The attitude is totally different. If we do good works to earn God's gift, then the gift is meaningless. It is no longer a gift.
The Bible says we have all sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. ALL, which included Mary, have sinned.
Again, it doesn't mean she was not a good woman, she believed in the scripture and loved God, but she was a believer in the first covenant, where you had to do certain things to get God's favour. There were sacrifices and dietary rules and many other things, some where add ons by religious people because no one can truly follow the 10 commandments.
I am not Catholic, but I went to a great Catholic high school. A Priest sometimes did Mass for students during special times. I was there, and was part of the school band that played for them, but I didn't take communion with them, I did that at my own Church. Anyway, the Priest always said that Protestents know the Bible better than Catholics because we read it and encouraged all the students to read it.
I encourage you to start with the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. It does not say Mary was sinless.
I am 30 minutes in. This is amazing. People that don't want to believe won't. No evidence will prove it to them. This is not for them. This is for people who want to believe. The Holy Spirit is all that can help the former. Pray for them. Hate and apathy can shut people off to seeing. Pray that their eyes are opened.
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 God loves you
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 Yo, friend. ^^
Hey, have you ever heard of a radio show called "Catholic Answers Live"? It's a call-in show where experts in the Christian faith -- in the Catholic tradition -- take questions from all sorts of people! Literally anyone can call -- Christians, atheists, agnostics -- anyone! And it's 100% free.
I don't mean to antagonize you in any way by posting this! I just wanted to suggest that you could call them and pose your questions. :D Please, try it! I think you'll find a lot of neat and surprising answers to your objections against the faith. Because -- yes, of course there are answers to everything! How could there not be? :)
Christians and people of faith are not your enemy, my friend. :) I care about you; I want nothing but eternal joy for you! And nothing in the Bible is absurd when you read it in context (you know -- historical context, linguistic context, literary context, etc.). The things you mention in your post just happen to be somewhat flawed interpretations of Scripture, tragically! I'm not saying it's your fault -- just that sadly many atheists aren't all that skilled at biblical interpretation. The reality is that faith and reason are not opposed to each other. They are the two wings with which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of God!
So, yeah, definitely do call the Catholic Answers apologists and fire all your questions at them. Many Christians you encounter on RUclips might not be as well equipped to explain their faith to others, because everyone is at a different stage in their learning process -- but take on the pros, and you'll be so glad that you did. It'll be a much better investment of your time and energy than these comment box debates!
Lastly, another tip: read the book "Hard Sayings: A Catholic Approach to Answering Bible Difficulties" by Trent Horn. I think it'll go a long way toward helping you interpret the Bible in a more correct way!
While I'm at it, I also recommend checking out the website catholic.com. I swear I'm not deliberately promoting the Catholic faith to you, haha. I'm just suggesting it because there are a lot of free articles there that can help with your questions. There you can search up anything -- for instance, "Lot" or "Noah" -- and you can find some good guidelines regarding how to interpret that particular narrative. Different articles may have slightly different points of view, but they're all valid.
For instance, here's an article about Noah's ark that I think you might like: www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/a-catholic-perspective-on-a-new-attraction
Anyways -- in all sincerity, I believe very few people in the world actually deny the Christian faith. But a HUGE number of people deny what they mistakenly believe to be the Christian faith! I'm not asking you to "unquestioningly" accept everything we propose; just.... well, maybe be willing to open your mind to the possibilities. :) As the original commenter said: If you outright refuse to accept God, nothing anyone can say will convince you. But if your heart is open -- if you're willing to honestly examine the evidence for God FROM OUR POV and letting it speak to you..... I mean, who knows, right? I will never lose hope that you too can have eternal life! Cheers, friend, I'll pray for you; may my Lord bless you. :)
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 Your skeptical viewpoint will not change or oblitorate or diminish my faith.
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 May God bless you & loved you.
A privilege to listen and watch such an illuminating presentation from Fr Dalton.
Thank you very much for this incredible video. I am in awe of the love of our Lord for us His little children. As we get close to Lent, I will recommend this video to my friends along with the 24 Hours of the Passion meditations dictated by our Lord to SOG, Little Daughter of the Divine Will, Luisa Piccarreta, where He shares very specific details regarding His sufferings during His Passion.🙏🏽
This is my favorite episode of Pints with Aquinas, Father Dalton is a very eloquent speaker and his passion for the Lord is more than evident. I don't need to be convinced of anything. I am a believer, and I think that the work that he and his colleagues are doing is excellent.
Thank you for this excellent conversation about the Shroud! I have listened to it many times and am touched in a unique way each time. I leave for Rome tomorrow evening, on an Italy Pilgrimage, and will surely experience each spiritual moment in a heightened way. God Bless you, Fr. Andrew & Matt!
I started this episode thinking it might be mildly interesting, and ended up finding it really life-changing. Thank you, Matt - this was one of your best episodes ever! And thank you, Fr. Dalton, for coming on the show and for all of your work. You were amazing. As a soon-to-be-former Protestant, I had only childhood memories of hearing of the shroud, mostly consisting of "some silly superstitious nonsense that was quickly debunked ." I'm so glad to have the chance to correct those misconceptions.
"soon-to-be-former" Protestant? Are you Catholic now?!
@@bluecomb5376 Received into the church Easter vigil 2023! :)
I've been looking for love all my life, and now I've found it in Jesus.Now it is even perfectly clear why he did it,imagine loving someone you would die for,you must have had that kind of love.He did it for all of us and especially for those who believe in him.I love you Jesus with all my heart and soul.
When they went over the pain and clinical effects of crucifixion I was on the verge of tears. Whoo boy that was powerful.
And a little gut wrenching. Had to pause for a while
This priest and his knowledge and his in depth understanding of the research on this garment was incredible and inspiring. I didn’t need this to be a believer in the resurrection but those who are skeptics should certainly be interested in the possibility. My faith in Christ and His death on the cross began as a child in a Christian home which I will always be grateful for. Jesus shed His blood to cover our sins - the perfect lamb of God - those who believe,receive and walk in faith will live with God for eternity.
Your faith in Adult Santa began when your parents lied to you about Adult Santa. Wow! Who would have thought... I mean... isn't it obvious that children will make this crap up all by themselves? :-)
@@schmetterling4477 You have not studied anything at all about the Shroud, have you? How pathetic to want to compare Jesus to Santa Claus. Man is that ever sad right there. Perhaps you would like to give us your theory just how the fabric, the pollen and dirt on it at date to Biblical days of Jerusalem? They have *proven* was that it contained a body that was beaten like Jesus was, scourged like Jesus was, was crucified like Jesus was AND wore a cap of thorns (only Jesus in recorded history was crucified wearing one of those) like Jesus was. To those of us that are blessed with better than average intelligence that spells it out quite clearly. And the thousands of manhours of research do a fine job at showing who was on the Shroud as well.
As an Engineer, I know the constraints of measuring systems, especially in Chromatography, it always puzzle me how “scientists” say a particular planet has this or that composition based on spectral analysis done light years away, I remember reading an article where they said with a plain face that on a particular plant it would rain sunscreen, and nobody calls it BS, and yet, an artifact like is deemed BS by people that clearly NEVER tried a simple experiment, let alone something mind blowing like this.
I could listen to Father Dalton speak on The Shroud for days. My faith in Jesus Christ is affirmed and deepened. To actually see the face of Jesus is … I don’t even have a word for it. I’ve never been more in love with Jesus. 🙏 Please bring Father back for further discussion.
lol than your an idiot if you think this is real. Jesus was not European lmao
This is absolutely the best summary of details and research about the Shroud I have seen/heard. I just spent the last several weeks looking at and reading on several documentaries and resources on the Shroud in order to summarize for my 9th-grade students some of the amazing qualities of the shroud. If I had just watched this first, I could have saved myself so much time and effort AND learned more than I did through the others. Thank you so much!!
Thank you for being a teacher! I'm a medical guy who has watched many of the same videos on the Shroud. Agree that this one is best; however, I think much of his information relates to these other, older sources. If I can be of any help, let me know. Makes me think of some of my own teachers.
Watched this today, Tuesday, and prayed the sorrowful mysteries of the rosary. It really brings Jesus suffering to life.
For the sake of your sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and the whole world, Jesus!
I won't forget how devasted I was in 1988 when it was "dated". Not because it shook my faith but rather that it could not be used to bring millions of converts
as the tilma of Guadalupe did. Thanks for reminding us that " there is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed."
@@freewilldoesntexist4075 The world's Christian population is expected to grow from 2.2 billion in 2010 to 2.9 billion in 2050. Nearly one-in-three people worldwide (31%) are expected to be Christian at mid-century, the same share as in 2010
Update: They have retested the age of the shroud, and it turns out that it is from the time of Jesus' resurrection!
Hello from Scotland...Absolutely amazing and answered some of the questions for me about why so much suffering of Jesus and more..I'm sharing far and wide. Just wonderful, beyond inspiring. Encouraging for the times we are living in .. I'm pumped as Matt would say .. Thank you all 🙏