Nes Collector and Pi-head here. Playing old Nes/FC games on a proper console is the pinnacle of enjoying the hobby vs emulation. The NT preserves the ritual of the NES, and provides intrinsic value of ownership, and gaming purity to your collection. I really want one, but I'm settling for an AVS. If one comes around cheap enough, I'll score one. Great video. FYI you need Splatterhouse Wanpaku Graffiti, Downtown Special, Crisis Force, and Recca Summer Carnival 92 in your collection.
I remember when Analogue Nt made the Neo Geo AES system covered completely in a wooden shell, instead of plastic. They make cool stuff, but they're definitely catered towards collectors with deep pockets. (which ain't me...lol)
One great thing that I immediately noticed over the AVS is that you don't have to exit the game to access the menu to change options. Nice to know that light guns aren't forgotten either.
this was such an awesome video dude. I want to buy one of those now. thanks for showing us and a shout out to your buddy for giving it to you so you could share it with us.
This is way outta my price range as well. It's really cool that one of your patreon supporters let you review it though. I'm happy with my retrousb avs. The jail break thing is cool, and apparently it's going to support more 8bit systems in the future.
I wonder... what are the major contributors to success for an emulation or recreation system? And what system would be most in demand, now that NES is probably covered the best it could be? What system would you like to see recreated personally?
I have a vague impression that a honest, cycle exact N64 may very well be very close to impossible to recreate. It might not seem like it, but its complexity is an order of magnitude higher than anything before it. The main processor alone is like well over a million transistors, while playstation is less than 150000, exotic memory, and a second processor of again similar complexity, that if not emulated fully will break some games, like Golden Eye. Then again, N64 is also so slow, that getting it exact may not at all be the goal, and getting games to play can be done with some hacks. I'll try to think of something, but ultimately this would be a project that I'd lack resources to really implement. Too recent, too complex.
Honestly, for a diehard NES fan $500 starts placing you close to the range for a brand new original NES. However, for the Diehard NES fan....this thing is like an NES on a whole bunch of steroids. One heck of a package. If a SNES version hits the market, I would really have to restrain myself from picking one up. Great vid!
Shawn, you forgot to mention one of the best things about this neat system. You can almost totally make the artifacts dissapear when scrolling to the right, left, up or down (example: the green artifacts at the right side of your screen in Mario Bros 3 will dissapear). You need to go to settings, cropping sides and make the sides another value. Your games will look 10x better. This would be THE REASON for me to buy it.
When you play through Double Dragon 3, get in the habit of moving diagonally instead of in straight horizontal lines. If you move in straight horizontal lines, you get your ass kicked. Moving diagonally and vertically means the enemies have to walk up/down to you to attack and gives you an opening. Also, when you get Chin use him for trash enemies. His regular punches take out trash quick, and when you use his claws it takes out bosses really quick.
No problem man. DD3 is one of my favorite games on the NES, and ever since it came out people have shit on it relentlessly. Anything I can do to give it some of the credit it deserves. If you need any help with the bosses or anything else really, get with me. I beat the game dozens of times and I pretty much know it backwards and forwards.
DD3 has multiple characters that each play differently, more stage and enemy variety, less annoying platforming elements and a more satisfying end boss fight. I played both DD2 and DD3 and beaten each multiple times, and I just prefer DD3.
Is the Analogue Nt better then the AVS USB other then one plays in 1080p and the other plays at 720p which is probably pointless. How well does it play the EVERDRIVE-N8. I want more information about that jailbrake thing your talking about. Can you put the whole collection on the sd card???
I'd say if you are BIG on graphical adjustments and audio adjustments, it's better. And yes, you can put pretty much everything, although there are compatiblity issues.
Was doing some research and found some forums for more info about the last 2 questions for the ever drive compatibility issues witch there working on fixing krikzz.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=luvkab0mmke32mkg9bqbbpc5n2&topic=5127.75 and for the jailbrake which they may add more systems in it.( maybe emulation maybe IDK) I found this on another youtube video. reading into this soon. atariage.com/forums/topic/242970-fpga-based-videogame-system/page-42#entry3687219
Thought this was way beyond what I was willing to spend but with the recent news that there'll be other stuff released for the FPGA in this thing I'm definitely interested.
So, what's up with the graphical anomalies on Double Dragon II in this vid? I see play tests on that title on an Analouge that don't have the odd duplication of the level graphics on the top/bottom of the screen. Is that from bad cropping settings in system or the capture card used in this vid?
awesome video made my shitty day a little better,,,loved the "rgt85 the video game" segment I've noticed how large your channel has become ,,keep up the great work
Your video is getting me fired up to order the new analoge nt noir. I hope I can save up the money by JULY. It'll take that long to get it. Thank you for this review.
the famicom games i imported were Gradius 2, holy diver, parodius, Recca, super mario bros 3 is more difficult, because if you get hit once you shrink all that way down. no matter how many powerups you have. I also got a famicom disk system, which can be hooked to the nt or avs, and so i got smb 2 as well as doki doki panic. i also have kid drac, thats a great one.
Ten years ago, I'd have definitely recommended Holy Diver. It was my first import, completely on impulse for cheap, and I wasn't disappointed. But god damn it got expensive. Priced perfectly for an Analogue Nt owner now, I guess.
Double Dragon 3 was best game on the NES. It was garbage in the Arcade, and overall DD2 was a better game in the arcade, extremely fun, but it's a different game DD3 NES.
Ignoring price is tough though. Is it "better" than the AVS? In terms of graphical and audio adjustments you can make, for sure. It has way more options in those departments, whether they are worthwhile or not, than the AVS. The Nt also is 1080p, AVS is 720p
pretty sure quadralords is based off the 1980 arcade game 'warlords' Here is a few famicom games I recommend: Gradius 2, King Kong 2, Goonies, bio senshi dan, cosmo police galavan, mr gimmick, JJ: Tobidase Daisakusen 2 (sequel to 3D world runner)
Wow! Great review, I play enough NES that it would be worth the purchase... if I had the $$! Dig those custom output settings and all the video standards.
RetroUSB is my preference. People complain about the price but it is really not that expensive when you consider what you get and how much other products like some Everdrives or SD2SNES go for. All of which are worth it!
FC cartridge imports you need in your life? So many. But here are 2: Crisis Force and Over Horizon. I really want an NT Mini but it's SO unnecessary. I got as far as the "place order" button, but shipping to Japan is $100.
Dammit Shawn, I hated your opening theme song first time I heard it, but then it got stuck in my head and it won't get out........ and I absolutely love it.
RGT 85 I just picked up a GPD XD and I'm really enjoying it. Have you seen it yet? I posted up a video on it. That's my Retro game solution. I was just curious if you saw one since you love Retro games like I. Take care!
You like Konami games. Look out for Wai Wai World 2 on the Famicom. You get to play a bunch of different Konami characters like Goemon, Bill Rizer, Simon Belmont, and some others. It's easy, but it's worth getting.
For me, playing games on the Nt Mini is a better experience than on the AVS thanks to a couple of small things. One, it's top loading. It's so much easier to switch out carts on a toploader. There is a lot of wiggle room on the Nt Mini however, so if you accidentally bump your system, you may reset your game. Two, the 8bitdo receiver is powered even if the system is turned off. This means when I'm switching games or leaving the system off for a long period, my 8bitdo controller doesn't lose it's bluetooth connection. Maybe it was user error on my end, but I constantly had to re-establish my bluetooth connection using the AVS, even when I just switched out carts. All I really want now from the Nt Mini are the Game Genie codes built in like they are on the AVS. Someone make that happen.
What actually makes this system $500 besides how heavy it is? Can you plug it into a crt and play light gun games? What is the compatibility percentage vs a clone like the Super Retro Trio? Now I know the trio has problems playing Castlevania 3 but is close to 100 percent compatibility.
This is a hardware clone, and it supports most everything. Not sure if it's exactly 100%. It can be hooked into a crt, but I'm not sure about light gun support.
Had to return mine, to get any clean game to work had to pull it out and put back in many times till it worked. They all worked fine on NES have no idea why. For 450.00 Id expect a flawless system. But they will send me another, once they get mine. Fingers crossed.
Yeah it's worth pointing out that 1080 scales better on 1080/4k TVs. Also you can install an unofficial firmware on this (made by the creator of this) to play other 8 bit consoles simulated on the FPGA.
I think it would be better if they ditched the Famicon port, and added SNES. Now, I know the console would have to be bigger, as the Famicon and NES work on the same board, but still, I rather have an NES and SNES slot, instead of NES and Famicon. If you wanted to play Famicon, you could just buy an adapter. But whatever. Cool system, but still too much for me.
It wouldn't need to be physically bigger. The console core is an FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array), and while a higher capacity FPGA needs to be chosen for SNES than for NES/Famicom, a simple hidden end switch in the sockets could switch the firmware IC or address line that the system boots from. FPGA is essentially a RAM-like device where each cell's stored data determines where it takes two signals from, and what logic function to apply, so it acts like a huge breadboard of millions of simple logic chips, but the wires are determined by software. You can simulate any sufficiently slow and sufficiently simple digital circuit with it, and basically all 16-bit consoles are all within realm of possibility, but as opposed to emulators running on general purpose processors, it can be done exactly with the same timings as the original hardware, no latency, potentially absolutely exact. As opposed to general purpose processors that are predominantly sequential in execution model, the FPGA can also represent fully parallel hardware units and behaviours, and the signal latency from one end of the FPGA to another is very comparable with switching speeds of transistors in older processors, making them so suitable for classic hardware recreation. Since an FPGA doesn't have internal permanent storage, it's loaded up with the wiring diagram of sorts, the program, by an external microcontroller or a special-purpose flash ROM IC on powerup, and that's when you can choose to give it a different program to have it simulate different hardware. But development of FPGA software is a very difficult and slow process, much slower than developing an emulator for a general purpose processor, and there aren't many console recreations written for FPGAs that you can just port, so i guess they just had to release what they already had rather than keep working on it with no money rolling in for another year. It's possible that they could provide a SNES adapter (only a handful of simple components) and firmware upgrade to SNES later.
Siana Gearz Further, since the NES has the most pins of any Nintendo cartridge, one could use a pin converter that also contains a microcontroller that tells the FPGA to use a different system architecture, and effectively run all Nintendo cartridges through a single slot.
hi RGT, great video, that's an amazing piece of kit. but it's like anything, you get what you pay for. I've just picked up a retron 5, haven't tried it yet, having way too much fun with my Genesis and cursed. 😀 👍 👍 👍
Tommy Pheap u can really hack an nes classic? I thought I read somewhere that Nintendo put an anti hacking program in it. a message comes up basically saying u fucked it up in a nice way, and it's fried.
Wicked Dick Of the West you're not good at reading are you? The abridged version.... no... there is no anti hacking program its an unsecured customized install of linux running a specialized nes/famicom emulator. The message found in the famicom version was a request for people who were reading it to be respectful and not make a mess when playing with the files.
I don't understand the demand for the NES Mini. If you want a cheap device that can play NES games, then get a Raspberry Pi. If you want a more authentic device, (for example, sound emulation is noticeably off on the NES Mini) then get an original NES off eBay. The cool thing about the AVS is that it can be used for either; emulation is 100% accurate (outside any visual enhancements, if you choose to use them) and you can play old NES cartridges on it, but can still output in HD. $500 is a tough sell though.
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the Analogue NT Mini is a good investment for future resale purposes? The price is ridiculously high, but I might actually consider buying one if I knew I could get my money back out of it in the future. Not to make a profit, but just to have it for a while and still be able to sell it without taking a big loss if ever something better comes along.
ScoobTube I'm going to say no. All this will do is drive FPGA based clones down in price. When someone comes to market with something similar for less than this that does the same thing, it will just ignite a price war and a market flood. Stay far away if you're looking for good resale.
+DaneSaysStuff Thanks for the reply. I'm inclined to believe these things will hold their value, due to their limited supply and the increasing value of NES consoles on the secondhand market. I know clones are being made, but none have the build quality of this thing. Of course I could be wrong.
thanks for letting us know what this thing was all about, It sure picks up fingerprints like no other. I still think I would go with the cheaper Retro AVS should my original NES crap out on me.
Some other good Famicom games are one called Twin Bee by I believe Konami there was even a Famicom McDonald's game also Sky destroyer was another good Famicom game there was one this hacked version of the game Columns called Magic Jewelry there were two versions of it Magic Jewelry 1 and Magic Jewelry 2 they were both pretty much the same game just that Magic Jewelry 2 had a little more options than Magic Jewelry 1 and there also was a game called B-Wings for the Famicom and another game called Gyrodine and and also one called Flipull An Exiting Cube Game that one I believe was from Taito and one called Flappy (which may or may not have made it to North America) and I think Flipull made it to North America on Gameboy but I'm not sure if it made it on to the North American NES system though oh and also there is a good Famicom game called Challenger and in North America we got Arkanoid but there is a Famicom game called Arkanoid 2 and we got Dig Dug 2 Trouble In Paradise by Naco but the fort Dig Dug is only on Famicom and we got Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man in North America but there is a Famicom game called Pac-Land which I don't believe we got in North America so those are just a few Famicom games that I know of
As good as the Analog Nt look or how many advance features it had, paying $500 for an Famciom/NES is just wrong. You can pretty much buy an original NES, a RetroUSB AVS, a Raspberry Pi, and a NES Mini altogether for cheaper than the Analog Nt.
I agree, I'm not quite enough of a Nintendo fanboy to pay that much money. However,.....the jailbreak with all the 8bit consoles (and rumored 16bit coming) does definitely sweeten the deal. "The Lamborghini of NES clones" is perfect. All the reviews give props that it's the best one. I'm doing PSTV w/RetroArch to hold me over. Not a little kid-friendly interface but all the games run as good/better as anything else I've tried. I even found a scanline setting too!!! Yay! Take care good video.
Awesome review Shawn! I was hoping the 'mini' would be somewhat cheaper...nope! lol. I was shocked to see that Analogue got rid of their CMVS line. I was hoping to pick one up at some point with my tax return money :-/ They also got rid of the regular NT.
This is an awesome product but the price is a lot to ask for. I'd rather get the AVS for the price but if I had $500 to spend I'd get the NT- looks so fuckin sexy and the wireless gamepads a great addition
Hi RGT 85.. Congrats for your NES game... it's a nice hack... responding to your question about good Famicom games... I would recommend you to check out Game Dave's RUclips series called "Famicorner".. you will get to see very good gems on the Famicom that are actually language friendly... meaning... they don't require you to know japanese to play them... you might find a couple of games there that are actually worth buying... Thanks for all the work you do... we enjoy it a lot... hope your channel keeps growing... Regards...
One more game I think I forgot to mention in my last comment actually 2 this first one in North America we got a game called Mappyland but there was a Famicom game that was just called Mappy and this other one may have made it to North America but I'm not sure it was called Circus Charlie by Konami not sure who made Mappy and Mappyland though oh and a third game which also may or may not have made an appearance in North America was another Konami game called Road Fighter and this other game that I am like 99% sure never made a North American appearance was a game called Pooyan but it just so happens that for that Magic Jewelry game I told you about in the previous comment and for Pooyan and for Circus Charlie there are iPhone game apps for them I think there I there is one for Road Fighter as well but I am not 100% sure on that one there is even an iPhone game app for a game which again may or may not have made it to North America called Yie Ar Kung-Fu these game apps could be available on Android but I personally am an iPhone IOS user so I'm not sure if they are or not
It is not a clone system it is an FPGA based system. a clone system would be all in hardware. It is similar because the NES circuits are cloned in the FPGA but not the same as a clone system.. The only other thing that would compare to this right now is the Retro USB AVS.
okay good deal... The great thing about the FPGA is that is is programmable to clone exactly the original hardware functionality which is a far closer representation to the original than a hardware clone with better compatibility. This one is the current king on the block because it can do 1080p but the retro usb AVS is great too.
Update on this comment. The Analogue NT Mini has a jailbreak firmware available directly from Kevtris for free that allows the FPGA to be re-programmed on the fly to different 8-bit system cores. Kevtris is adding systems and is constantly developing the firmware to add cores.
Famicom game worth importing? Famicom Wars! if you love Advance Wars like i do having FW is a must to complete the collection. The Japanese menus are a bit of a chore at first but you memorize them quickly. Story is pretty nonexistant.
Famicom game I own and love.. Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa Wai Wai World 2 Parodius Da Toukon Club (Best wrestling game on the NES) Don Doko Don King Kong 2 Have these disc games too.. Ai Senshi Nicol Super Mario Bros 2
Nes Collector and Pi-head here. Playing old Nes/FC games on a proper console is the pinnacle of enjoying the hobby vs emulation. The NT preserves the ritual of the NES, and provides intrinsic value of ownership, and gaming purity to your collection. I really want one, but I'm settling for an AVS. If one comes around cheap enough, I'll score one. Great video. FYI you need Splatterhouse Wanpaku Graffiti, Downtown Special, Crisis Force, and Recca Summer Carnival 92 in your collection.
+DJ Psyko M1 I love my AVS. I did a review on it when it first came out. Yeah crisis force is so damn expensive now! I got a repro of splatter house.
I remember when Analogue Nt made the Neo Geo AES system covered completely in a wooden shell, instead of plastic.
They make cool stuff, but they're definitely catered towards collectors with deep pockets. (which ain't me...lol)
yeah I can't hang with it price wise. lol
Thx to whoever lent it for review
One great thing that I immediately noticed over the AVS is that you don't have to exit the game to access the menu to change options. Nice to know that light guns aren't forgotten either.
Great review man!
this was such an awesome video dude. I want to buy one of those now. thanks for showing us and a shout out to your buddy for giving it to you so you could share it with us.
This is way outta my price range as well. It's really cool that one of your patreon supporters let you review it though. I'm happy with my retrousb avs. The jail break thing is cool, and apparently it's going to support more 8bit systems in the future.
I believe those are Karens in Double Dragon 2 that you're beating up, not Lindas, but hey, it was early '17 at the time.
I wonder... what are the major contributors to success for an emulation or recreation system? And what system would be most in demand, now that NES is probably covered the best it could be?
What system would you like to see recreated personally?
N64 is actually the most in demand I'd say, simply because of how foggy and muddy the graphics were at default. And I'd love an "HD" N64 clone :)
I have a vague impression that a honest, cycle exact N64 may very well be very close to impossible to recreate. It might not seem like it, but its complexity is an order of magnitude higher than anything before it. The main processor alone is like well over a million transistors, while playstation is less than 150000, exotic memory, and a second processor of again similar complexity, that if not emulated fully will break some games, like Golden Eye. Then again, N64 is also so slow, that getting it exact may not at all be the goal, and getting games to play can be done with some hacks. I'll try to think of something, but ultimately this would be a project that I'd lack resources to really implement. Too recent, too complex.
I absolutely love the intro
Honestly, for a diehard NES fan $500 starts placing you close to the range for a brand new original NES.
However, for the Diehard NES fan....this thing is like an NES on a whole bunch of steroids. One heck of a package.
If a SNES version hits the market, I would really have to restrain myself from picking one up.
Great vid!
Shawn, you forgot to mention one of the best things about this neat system. You can almost totally make the artifacts dissapear when scrolling to the right, left, up or down (example: the green artifacts at the right side of your screen in Mario Bros 3 will dissapear). You need to go to settings, cropping sides and make the sides another value. Your games will look 10x better. This would be THE REASON for me to buy it.
at 16:27 what's the name of the background music? thank you
Some day I will buy one of these...you know when I'm rich.
is that a 8bit version of Deftones - be quite and drive (far away) in the background?
it is
nice! they are one of my favorite bands.
When you play through Double Dragon 3, get in the habit of moving diagonally instead of in straight horizontal lines. If you move in straight horizontal lines, you get your ass kicked. Moving diagonally and vertically means the enemies have to walk up/down to you to attack and gives you an opening. Also, when you get Chin use him for trash enemies. His regular punches take out trash quick, and when you use his claws it takes out bosses really quick.
+TheRosswise interesting. I'll keep that in mind bud. Thanks.
No problem man. DD3 is one of my favorite games on the NES, and ever
since it came out people have shit on it relentlessly. Anything I can do
to give it some of the credit it deserves. If you need any help with
the bosses or anything else really, get with me. I beat the game dozens
of times and I pretty much know it backwards and forwards.
TheRosswise dude, why DD2 is far superior in literally every way imaginable
DD3 has multiple characters that each play differently, more stage and
enemy variety, less annoying platforming elements and a more satisfying end boss fight. I played both DD2 and DD3 and beaten each multiple times, and I just prefer DD3.
Is the Analogue Nt better then the AVS USB other then one plays in 1080p and the other plays at 720p which is probably pointless.
How well does it play the EVERDRIVE-N8.
I want more information about that jailbrake thing your talking about. Can you put the whole collection on the sd card???
I'd say if you are BIG on graphical adjustments and audio adjustments, it's better. And yes, you can put pretty much everything, although there are compatiblity issues.
Was doing some research and found some forums for more info about the last 2 questions
for the ever drive compatibility issues witch there working on fixing
krikzz.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=luvkab0mmke32mkg9bqbbpc5n2&topic=5127.75
and for the jailbrake which they may add more systems in it.( maybe emulation maybe IDK) I found this on another youtube video. reading into this soon.
atariage.com/forums/topic/242970-fpga-based-videogame-system/page-42#entry3687219
Thought this was way beyond what I was willing to spend but with the recent news that there'll be other stuff released for the FPGA in this thing I'm definitely interested.
+R9delta for sure. Lots of exciting things coming to it.
So, what's up with the graphical anomalies on Double Dragon II in this vid? I see play tests on that title on an Analouge that don't have the odd duplication of the level graphics on the top/bottom of the screen. Is that from bad cropping settings in system or the capture card used in this vid?
+Frankie Viturello capture card. I didn't notice it when I was playing it
RGT 85 thanks for the clarification!
why didn't you use 5x vertical scaling???
awesome video made my shitty day a little better,,,loved the "rgt85 the video game" segment I've noticed how large your channel has become ,,keep up the great work
Your video is getting me fired up to order the new analoge nt noir. I hope I can save up the money by JULY. It'll take that long to get it. Thank you for this review.
On Quadralords - I think you were thinking of Warlords for the Atari 2600 - except in Warlords each player had to protect their corner of the screen.
I'm digging the 24k Gold one. ...And it's only $5,000! It's a damn-good thing I'm filthy fucking rich!
lol they only did a VERY limited run of those.
the famicom games i imported were Gradius 2, holy diver, parodius, Recca, super mario bros 3 is more difficult, because if you get hit once you shrink all that way down. no matter how many powerups you have. I also got a famicom disk system, which can be hooked to the nt or avs, and so i got smb 2 as well as doki doki panic. i also have kid drac, thats a great one.
Yea I'd love Holy Diver!
Ten years ago, I'd have definitely recommended Holy Diver. It was my first import, completely on impulse for cheap, and I wasn't disappointed. But god damn it got expensive. Priced perfectly for an Analogue Nt owner now, I guess.
Double Dragon 3 was best game on the NES. It was garbage in the Arcade, and overall DD2 was a better game in the arcade, extremely fun, but it's a different game DD3 NES.
How does it compare to your beloved AVS? On a scale of 1-10, where would both be if we ignore the price.
Ignoring price is tough though. Is it "better" than the AVS? In terms of graphical and audio adjustments you can make, for sure. It has way more options in those departments, whether they are worthwhile or not, than the AVS. The Nt also is 1080p, AVS is 720p
Did you tested Akumajou Densetsu with additional sound chip?
pretty sure quadralords is based off the 1980 arcade game 'warlords'
Here is a few famicom games I recommend:
Gradius 2, King Kong 2, Goonies, bio senshi dan, cosmo police galavan, mr gimmick, JJ: Tobidase Daisakusen 2 (sequel to 3D world runner)
+dezm101 thanks for the suggestions!
Wow! Great review, I play enough NES that it would be worth the purchase... if I had the $$! Dig those custom output settings and all the video standards.
Thanks for watchin!
Nice review as always.
RetroUSB is my preference. People complain about the price but it is really not that expensive when you consider what you get and how much other products like some Everdrives or SD2SNES go for. All of which are worth it!
+merlingt1 yeah I mean I do enjoy this console but when you factor in the dollar amount the AVS is just the best value.
FC cartridge imports you need in your life? So many. But here are 2: Crisis Force and Over Horizon. I really want an NT Mini but it's SO unnecessary. I got as far as the "place order" button, but shipping to Japan is $100.
Love the 8-bit Deftones background music!
Dammit Shawn, I hated your opening theme song first time I heard it, but then it got stuck in my head and it won't get out........ and I absolutely love it.
bwhahaha
DUDE!!! river city ransom!!!! is back this month! about the console... do you prefer this one or Retron 5?
+Chris Darker retron 5 does more but if you are doing strictly NES this is better.
Aaron Kosharsky would have kept it...
Josh would have filled it with roaches, and sold it back to the sender...
you aint wrong
Grimsie42 gross
the truth
If Batman was into Retro games I bet this would be his system of choice.
"Does it come in black?"
RGT 85 I just picked up a GPD XD and I'm really enjoying it. Have you seen it yet? I posted up a video on it. That's my Retro game solution. I was just curious if you saw one since you love Retro games like I. Take care!
The 2600 game is called Warlords, one of my favorite 2600 games ever
Would you rather buy a Geo Metro or an Analogue NT?
would u recommend this over retrousb avs??...
OMG a NES controler with 4 buttons and the R-L buttons looks weird af. But also really cool at the same time. The console reminds me of the N64
Frickin' PREMIUM MACHINE! My God! With the 8bitdo controller! Love that controller. I use it with my nes classic n gba games on my smartphone. Wow
For some reason I was thinking that it was a clone or the NES classic. Wait, now it's going to happen.
You like Konami games. Look out for Wai Wai World 2 on the Famicom. You get to play a bunch of different Konami characters like Goemon, Bill Rizer, Simon Belmont, and some others. It's easy, but it's worth getting.
Also, your hat throwing abilities are what inspired Nintendo to make Super Mario Odyssey.
Yesss I remember that game. To eBay I go.
For me, playing games on the Nt Mini is a better experience than on the AVS thanks to a couple of small things. One, it's top loading. It's so much easier to switch out carts on a toploader. There is a lot of wiggle room on the Nt Mini however, so if you accidentally bump your system, you may reset your game. Two, the 8bitdo receiver is powered even if the system is turned off. This means when I'm switching games or leaving the system off for a long period, my 8bitdo controller doesn't lose it's bluetooth connection. Maybe it was user error on my end, but I constantly had to re-establish my bluetooth connection using the AVS, even when I just switched out carts.
All I really want now from the Nt Mini are the Game Genie codes built in like they are on the AVS. Someone make that happen.
can i use this system with a pal crt tv?
+RupertDahamer39 it should yes
I really love Double Dragon 4,one's of the best game I played on the PS4
Geoff good gamer 29 it's fun, I just really wanted it to have online 2 player.
that would be cool if it has A 2 player online,I remember James and Mike talk about that during their video.
Geoff good gamer 29 It's okay
agree
When you send it back swap it with the Hamy system and see if he notices!
hahaha naw he's a good dude. Also that flight stick kinda look like a penis.
Best graphics I've ever seen for the NES and SNES. Perfect little console.
What actually makes this system $500 besides how heavy it is? Can you plug it into a crt and play light gun games? What is the compatibility percentage vs a clone like the Super Retro Trio? Now I know the trio has problems playing Castlevania 3 but is close to 100 percent compatibility.
This is a hardware clone, and it supports most everything. Not sure if it's exactly 100%. It can be hooked into a crt, but I'm not sure about light gun support.
"Don't do cartwheels in front of me, my boy. I will have to punch you in the face." LOL :-D
Had to return mine, to get any clean game to work had to pull it out and put back in many times till it worked. They all worked fine on NES have no idea why. For 450.00 Id expect a flawless system. But they will send me another, once they get mine. Fingers crossed.
Need to pick up Splatterhouse Wanpaku Graffiti for Famicom. Great game and great difficulty as well
What exactly does this system do better over a system like the Retro AVS? I am not seeing why this system costs $500.
Many thing like actually you can use zapper/rob
And now even play Roms From sd card etc etc
Avs is only 720 as nt is 1080 etc etc
Yeah it's worth pointing out that 1080 scales better on 1080/4k TVs. Also you can install an unofficial firmware on this (made by the creator of this) to play other 8 bit consoles simulated on the FPGA.
Gormond +copy nes that nice to have also
I think it would be better if they ditched the Famicon port, and added SNES. Now, I know the console would have to be bigger, as the Famicon and NES work on the same board, but still, I rather have an NES and SNES slot, instead of NES and Famicon. If you wanted to play Famicon, you could just buy an adapter. But whatever. Cool system, but still too much for me.
It wouldn't need to be physically bigger. The console core is an FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array), and while a higher capacity FPGA needs to be chosen for SNES than for NES/Famicom, a simple hidden end switch in the sockets could switch the firmware IC or address line that the system boots from. FPGA is essentially a RAM-like device where each cell's stored data determines where it takes two signals from, and what logic function to apply, so it acts like a huge breadboard of millions of simple logic chips, but the wires are determined by software. You can simulate any sufficiently slow and sufficiently simple digital circuit with it, and basically all 16-bit consoles are all within realm of possibility, but as opposed to emulators running on general purpose processors, it can be done exactly with the same timings as the original hardware, no latency, potentially absolutely exact. As opposed to general purpose processors that are predominantly sequential in execution model, the FPGA can also represent fully parallel hardware units and behaviours, and the signal latency from one end of the FPGA to another is very comparable with switching speeds of transistors in older processors, making them so suitable for classic hardware recreation. Since an FPGA doesn't have internal permanent storage, it's loaded up with the wiring diagram of sorts, the program, by an external microcontroller or a special-purpose flash ROM IC on powerup, and that's when you can choose to give it a different program to have it simulate different hardware.
But development of FPGA software is a very difficult and slow process, much slower than developing an emulator for a general purpose processor, and there aren't many console recreations written for FPGAs that you can just port, so i guess they just had to release what they already had rather than keep working on it with no money rolling in for another year.
It's possible that they could provide a SNES adapter (only a handful of simple components) and firmware upgrade to SNES later.
Siana Gearz Further, since the NES has the most pins of any Nintendo cartridge, one could use a pin converter that also contains a microcontroller that tells the FPGA to use a different system architecture, and effectively run all Nintendo cartridges through a single slot.
hi RGT, great video, that's an amazing piece of kit. but it's like anything, you get what you pay for.
I've just picked up a retron 5, haven't tried it yet, having way too much fun with my Genesis and cursed. 😀 👍 👍 👍
forgot to ask, is there any way I can get an RGT85 game. 😋
Retron 5 is super solid!
Even though I'm a DIE-HARD NES fanboy $500 is a lot and I prefer to pay scalpers $150-$200 for NES Mini I can hack n load 700+ games on it xD
I'd rather get a pi for even less :p
Tommy Pheap u can really hack an nes classic? I thought I read somewhere that Nintendo put an anti hacking program in it. a message comes up basically saying u fucked it up in a nice way, and it's fried.
Wicked Dick Of the West you're not good at reading are you? The abridged version.... no... there is no anti hacking program its an unsecured customized install of linux running a specialized nes/famicom emulator. The message found in the famicom version was a request for people who were reading it to be respectful and not make a mess when playing with the files.
I don't understand the demand for the NES Mini. If you want a cheap device that can play NES games, then get a Raspberry Pi. If you want a more authentic device, (for example, sound emulation is noticeably off on the NES Mini) then get an original NES off eBay. The cool thing about the AVS is that it can be used for either; emulation is 100% accurate (outside any visual enhancements, if you choose to use them) and you can play old NES cartridges on it, but can still output in HD. $500 is a tough sell though.
David Brailsford well I read it on Facebook. guess I should have known it was bullshit.
Can anyone speculate on whether or not the Analogue NT Mini is a good investment for future resale purposes? The price is ridiculously high, but I might actually consider buying one if I knew I could get my money back out of it in the future. Not to make a profit, but just to have it for a while and still be able to sell it without taking a big loss if ever something better comes along.
ScoobTube I'm going to say no. All this will do is drive FPGA based clones down in price. When someone comes to market with something similar for less than this that does the same thing, it will just ignite a price war and a market flood. Stay far away if you're looking for good resale.
+DaneSaysStuff Thanks for the reply. I'm inclined to believe these things will hold their value, due to their limited supply and the increasing value of NES consoles on the secondhand market. I know clones are being made, but none have the build quality of this thing. Of course I could be wrong.
thanks for letting us know what this thing was all about, It sure picks up fingerprints like no other. I still think I would go with the cheaper Retro AVS should my original NES crap out on me.
hey man there are alot of great Famicom games worth picking up there my fave is
crisis force
good pick!
why not an Intel i7 mini computer with HD graphics card about 200 dlls
+leviathan Behemot that won't play NES cartridges
RGT 85 very True.. they are some bad ass emulators that have alot of audio and video setting that makes the games look awesome.
I'd highly recommend Chojin Sentai Jetman for the FC. Great platformer.
I'll check it out!
Some other good Famicom games are one called Twin Bee by I believe Konami there was even a Famicom McDonald's game also Sky destroyer was another good Famicom game there was one this hacked version of the game Columns called Magic Jewelry there were two versions of it Magic Jewelry 1 and Magic Jewelry 2 they were both pretty much the same game just that Magic Jewelry 2 had a little more options than Magic Jewelry 1 and there also was a game called B-Wings for the Famicom and another game called Gyrodine and and also one called Flipull An Exiting Cube Game that one I believe was from Taito and one called Flappy (which may or may not have made it to North America) and I think Flipull made it to North America on Gameboy but I'm not sure if it made it on to the North American NES system though oh and also there is a good Famicom game called Challenger and in North America we got Arkanoid but there is a Famicom game called Arkanoid 2 and we got Dig Dug 2 Trouble In Paradise by Naco but the fort Dig Dug is only on Famicom and we got Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man in North America but there is a Famicom game called Pac-Land which I don't believe we got in North America so those are just a few Famicom games that I know of
+Michael Segal thanks bud! I'll check some out
As good as the Analog Nt look or how many advance features it had, paying $500 for an Famciom/NES is just wrong. You can pretty much buy an original NES, a RetroUSB AVS, a Raspberry Pi, and a NES Mini altogether for cheaper than the Analog Nt.
I agree, I'm not quite enough of a Nintendo fanboy to pay that much money. However,.....the jailbreak with all the 8bit consoles (and rumored 16bit coming) does definitely sweeten the deal. "The Lamborghini of NES clones" is perfect. All the reviews give props that it's the best one. I'm doing PSTV w/RetroArch to hold me over. Not a little kid-friendly interface but all the games run as good/better as anything else I've tried. I even found a scanline setting too!!! Yay!
Take care good video.
+Rynne Taylor thank you bud
the black one looks awesome if i had the money i would get one.
would have been cool if you tested an everdrive n8
Looks like I'm buying this. Now I'll wait for the SNES model
David Garcia or u could get the real deal, refurbished Nintendo for 75 to 100. this thing is a damn rip off.
Awesome review Shawn! I was hoping the 'mini' would be somewhat cheaper...nope! lol. I was shocked to see that Analogue got rid of their CMVS line. I was hoping to pick one up at some point with my tax return money :-/ They also got rid of the regular NT.
+mtshark7 it's a beast. But pricey. Lol
Well, frankly: no...
The Analogue NT (not the mini) costs more...
I wish there was analogue nt for the master system / genesis that would be awesome.
well I added support friday for master system, game gear and coleco so there is that :-) (via the jailbroken firmware)
Shut your fucking mouth
$500 out of your budget? You are a real american. Congratulations.
Great video. Nice Job
You could get a rgb and hdmi modded nes fatty for 350 or less.
Listening to Kid Dracula there the sound quality beats my cheap famiclone.
For sure, the Analog is legit
If you didnt talk all the time we could hear the game audio which is also very important when reviewing.
Quadralords? Warlords, you mean.
yep
This is an awesome product but the price is a lot to ask for. I'd rather get the AVS for the price but if I had $500 to spend I'd get the NT- looks so fuckin sexy and the wireless gamepads a great addition
Hi RGT 85.. Congrats for your NES game... it's a nice hack... responding to your question about good Famicom games... I would recommend you to check out Game Dave's RUclips series called "Famicorner".. you will get to see very good gems on the Famicom that are actually language friendly... meaning... they don't require you to know japanese to play them... you might find a couple of games there that are actually worth buying... Thanks for all the work you do... we enjoy it a lot... hope your channel keeps growing... Regards...
One more game I think I forgot to mention in my last comment actually 2 this first one in North America we got a game called Mappyland but there was a Famicom game that was just called Mappy and this other one may have made it to North America but I'm not sure it was called Circus Charlie by Konami not sure who made Mappy and Mappyland though oh and a third game which also may or may not have made an appearance in North America was another Konami game called Road Fighter and this other game that I am like 99% sure never made a North American appearance was a game called Pooyan but it just so happens that for that Magic Jewelry game I told you about in the previous comment and for Pooyan and for Circus Charlie there are iPhone game apps for them I think there I there is one for Road Fighter as well but I am not 100% sure on that one there is even an iPhone game app for a game which again may or may not have made it to North America called Yie Ar Kung-Fu these game apps could be available on Android but I personally am an iPhone IOS user so I'm not sure if they are or not
Aaron would've made a video about it, bragged about it, said he was keeping it, then days later resell it on eBay giving excuses as to why he did it.
Who is Aaron?
It is not a clone system it is an FPGA based system. a clone system would be all in hardware. It is similar because the NES circuits are cloned in the FPGA but not the same as a clone system.. The only other thing that would compare to this right now is the Retro USB AVS.
+Maarek Stele yeah just easier for people to understand than FPGA. I do refer to it as FPGA in the vid tho.
okay good deal... The great thing about the FPGA is that is is programmable to clone exactly the original hardware functionality which is a far closer representation to the original than a hardware clone with better compatibility. This one is the current king on the block because it can do 1080p but the retro usb AVS is great too.
Update on this comment. The Analogue NT Mini has a jailbreak firmware available directly from Kevtris for free that allows the FPGA to be re-programmed on the fly to different 8-bit system cores. Kevtris is adding systems and is constantly developing the firmware to add cores.
I'd like to see sunsoft's batman or revenge of the joker on this.
It looks real good!
hot keys?
are those like hot pockets?
Review the gold one next
Wish they’d rerelease this
Awesome console with lots of options, but 500 bucks... Nah man. I'd rather buy an AVS.
Famicom game worth importing? Famicom Wars! if you love Advance Wars like i do having FW is a must to complete the collection. The Japanese menus are a bit of a chore at first but you memorize them quickly. Story is pretty nonexistant.
I don't care where, just far... +1 for Deftones
good ear!
Deftones???
I'd buy one in a blink of an eye if I could afford it.
RGT85, are you ever allowed to play any Nintendo games such as Mario when you do these reviews on the system? Or I take it Nintendo doesn't that?
That price is too much. AVS does all i want at $180. $500 would be worth it completely if it had a SNES and N64 slot too.
Famicom game I own and love..
Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti
Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa
Wai Wai World 2
Parodius Da
Toukon Club (Best wrestling game on the NES)
Don Doko Don
King Kong 2
Have these disc games too..
Ai Senshi Nicol
Super Mario Bros 2
Wai Wai World 2, just picked this up yesterday!
**builds 400$ Gaming Pc**
*PLAYS ONLY NES GAME ON THE EMULATOR*
@ RGT85 - Quadralords is not new , they ripped off a Atari 2600 Warlords, not an original idea.
A bunch of fucking "features" the most people won't and don't even know how to use.
This thing looks cool,but the only thing i will spend $500 to play NES games on is a computer!