retroUSB AVS NES :: RGB305 / MY LIFE IN GAMING
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2016
- The Ultimate NES Clone FPGA Console? There are so many ways to play NES and Famicom cartridges on your HDTV, but retroUSB's FPGA-based AVS offers a new high-quality approach.
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00:00 - Intro 
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I never tire of how much excellent technical info you guys cram into every episode!
ditto
This is the only review of the AVS thus far that actually presents an honest and thorough picture of the strengths and weaknesses. Well done guys! This is THE definitive AVS review and should go a long way towards guiding the future improvements of both the AVS and the upcoming NT mini.
I have absolutely no need for one of these. But I want one anyway...
Same here, and I'm actually fine with just playing my retro games on an FC Twin and/or Retron 3. :)
@@sonicmario64
I think the main appeal of a CRT, aside from that retro nostalgic authenticity, affordability & flawless latency, is the incredible blur free motion clarity, which simply put, doesn't exist on Modern 4K OLED & LED displays. Motion blur is the name of the game these days, and i can't stand it. We've gone completely backwards.
The trick is to either use Black frame insertion or higher frame rates(120fps-144fps) beyond 60fps to reduce OLED motion blur by 50% or more. Problem is, BFI has too many drawbacks(Higher latency, too much brightness loss and flicker on whites), and 120-144fps isn't compatible with most games since they're total power hogs. :P
Thinking about getting an AVS and pairing it with a smaller QD-OLED....But then I'd just be making a big sacrifice to motion Clarity, even latency AND my Wallet($1800 later) and the AVS can't replicate that smooth RF or AV CRT filter effect...Just scan lines, which also darken the image. On the flip side, QD-OLED has perfect blacks, high brightness, it's light, Thin, and makes the experience feel fresher and modern. Vhat' to do. :P
This channel is a treasure. I can't wait for your NES Classic Mini review ^_^
Really like the intro/outro music on this channel.
Eat your heart out, Retro VGS! This thing has a *working* FPGA running games.
LOL
Get out of here rich
Carl Siemens I think you ment to say colleco scammellon.
Carl Siemens I like your icon
Carl Siemens Retro VGS? Who are they?
I love mine. It kicks ass! Great work as always gents.
Hey man, your review of this was great too!
Your review convinced me I should get one! It was also first video I saw on your channel last year! Still need to get my RetroUSB AVS soon after I get my Super Nt and my PS4!
Is your avs still holdin up??im interested in buyin one..
It's a great console.. Unfortunately the last firmware update broke compatibility with Gradius 2; I'm hoping it gets fixed in the future.
Hey man thanks for reporting on all that cool stuff
I'm such a geek. I've watched this 3 times as I eagerly await my AVS! Hehehe
I did the same thing! lol
You guys always get the technical details and explain them in such an easy to understand way. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
You've definitely made it quite tempting for me to buy one of these.
Thanks for all of your hard work. Absolutely love this channel. Putting together the different video comparisons via different outputs alone makes this video invaluable.
Just wanna say that you guys are doing a wonderful job. The show is very technical, fun and enjoyable to watch. Thank you.
You guys put so much work in to this. you deserve way more views!
Love this channel. Even though I am an emulator person I always enjoy learning about the hardware and technical side of all this stuff. It really helps dial in my emulation set up.
Hey, whatever method works for you, just as long as more people get to enjoy some of the classics
By far one of the best channels on RUclips! Solid presenting and solid information, thanks a lot
I've been waiting all week for this video.
I ordered an AVS last week because of this video. You guys are some of the only people on RUclips with pickier taste in AV quality than I have. I love your channel.
Wish you came out with more videos! By far the best production quality out there in retro gaming.
*subscribed* thank you for this video, this is EXACTLY the information I was looking for. Can't wait to binge on all the other videos!
This is a subject I am really well read up on, and I still appreciated your well thought out video. Great job!
For something almost 1/3 of the price of an nt Mini, this seems like a great option.
Thanks for the Blaster Master! Can never have enough of that BM music.
Wow! I have an AVS and I love it. Yall's videos are great 👍.
I love my avs. Running around buying converter's to my old nes and snes hardware was wearing thin on my enjoyment of my old cartridges.
And when playing games like duck hunt or freedom force its nice to go orginal hardware on a CRT.
But sharing gamplay and just playing games with friends on my hd tv the AVS is a fantastic solution to my graphical and lag woes.
Im very happy with the avs for the nes graphic and non lag capabilities.
Next up the super nt. And the new sg nt are the next on my upgrades list so i can happily play my old carts like there sappose to he played. The collection is up on the self ready tk be played and the AVS gave my collection what it needed. No lag and near flawless pixle display.
That Ryu Hyabusa theme! Love the video, great work.
It is an absolute travesty that you guys only have 35,XXX subscribers. This is easily the best gaming channel on RUclips. Kudos to you, gentlemen.
Thanks for the review. I was hoping you'd cover this system as I've been on the fence about it and I knew you guys would provide a wealth of good information.
great review! I pre-ordered mine, cant wait to get it and test it out
Going to have to support this project so that more like it are successful.
Thanks so much! You guys have delivered another great episode!
always good! Can't wait to see the next episode
Thanks a lot for this video, been looking for a NES and this looks like the best option for me!
Already have several NES but I cannot wait to get my AVS order, the waiting is killing me! BTW I absolutely love your channel!
wow.. awesome review guys... always love your episodes.. so much great info!
As always, excellent video. Keep up the great work.
I like the brighter color palette of the AVS, it's close enough to accurate and it makes Kirby's Adventure really shine, among other games
Great series . Keep up the good work.
I would kill for an HDMI FPGA Neo Geo AES/MVS system
Thanks for another fantastic episode!
Great review, guys! I especially like that you used the term "hardware simulation" to distinguish what the AVS does from something like the Retron 5. Early press on the system didn't do a lot to break down the difference between the AVS and other NES HDMI solutions. You knocked it out of the park, as always!
+Retro Tech Select [Try4ce] The usage of the term "hardware simulation" was thanks to Artemio Urbina's input! Originally I wrote "hardware emulation," not for lack of understanding of what it was doing, but I didn't know of another word to use. Artemio's advice helped make the distinction much more clear.
I've been wanting an AVS for a while now. Much like you, I'd love to see something like that for other consoles, especially the SNES or N64.
Excellent video once again...bravo, bravo
Just ordered one of these. Can't wait to experience what I couldn't as a kid.
SO thorough. THANK YOU.
This is a great episode, and will without a doubt help sell many units. I use an RGB modded toaster with a small PVM, but this device looks enticing to play on my large HDTV without having to buy a scaler.
Definitely will get this one along the line. I just hope they make an updated version with higher resolution support. The Hi Def is way too expensive especially considering I get 25 percent import tax. I got my framemeister but I need a HD Nes fix.
LOVE it!! I'm gettin one!
That thing is impressive! But for me I use a Framemeister Mini for all my videos, and can really appreciate its versatility. But if I didn't have multiple game systems I was trying to record or see in HD I would totally get one of these. Another great episode guys!
Great video as of usual guys! I was very curious about this device and you explained it well. I think for the time being I will stick with my HDMI HiDef original NES though.
I finally got one! So glad I did, it's great. 👍👍
Well! According to RetroUSB's Facebook, they will be adding palette selections in an update, including Unsaturated-V6 from what I read. Very excited to see that come out.
you can try it now by downloading the v1.20b1 AVS firmware from retrousb.com/downloads !
Just tried it. Video palettes work, but it creates errors in the audio performance, so I rolled back to 1.10
Have they added it yet?
Just ordered one of these to see what its all about. I own two NES's and needed an HDMI solution for NES game play and Analogues Nt is way out of my price range. Excellent review.
A very fine review! Thanks!!
That thing looks so awesome :o
Definitivelly I want it!!! Very Cool Nes
I never had the money for an Analog NT Mini, but the AVS is really good and does exactly what I want.
the very best video on the subject. thanks!
Thumbs up guys!Really detailed,paced and relaxing.In case you get the chance to test the NES(& Co.)on a 4K TV remember that,apart from one Professional Sony 31" Oled Monitor,there are no native consumer 4K TV screens on sale.Horizontal resolution is slightly lower:3840x2160(UHD)vs 4096x2160(4K).Just so you know when looking in detail to what's happening to the pixels that the resolution might not be what you think.P.s.This 4K advertising(Sony in particular)of UHD just brings more confusion to standard understanding.Keep up the excellent work!And thanks again for your tests and videos.
[Try4ce] I think "UHD" is what we want to deal with, because 3840x2160 is what the standard video resolution will scale cleanly to. Of course, it's not actually 4K pixels wide, but I'd rather have an aspect ratio that matches earlier standards, then something that probably won't be useful for anything but PCs.
Great overview of the console.
I just ordered one yesterday!
After watching this video, I think this is the best option for me right now. I want to stay as pure as possible for the least amount of money and I think this is the best option. Thanks!
Both this and Analogue's efforts have been so much better than what the Retron 5 could do. 👍
great review guys!
This is a really good video, Thanks for this... :D
I already have an NES and a Framemeister, so I guess I'll do the RGB mod on my NES. However, the AVS NES is cool! Thanks for the video on it.
Hot damn, I need one of these things in my life (in gaming). Great look at this piece of hardware, fellas. I knew it looked promising, probably just what I need since I don't know where/how to RGB mod my Famicom.
This is really good great job!
Out of all the ways to see NES games I prefer the RGB way using the Framemeister. The pixels look perfect in shape and has the light blur to smooth out the jaggies
If I had the extra cash flow, I would for sure be picking one of these up along with a flash cart for my setup, but as it stands the best value for me is my homebrewed Wii with component cables.
Since i didn't get into Nintendo consoles until well into the SNES era, i don't feel compelled to hunt down a NES in good condition and then shell out another $100+ to get it HDMI ready (like i have for my SNES, N64, GBA, GameCube and Wii), so this looks like an excellent option, and i just ordered one. Great video as always!
i hope more of these kind of consoles are made in the future
McHenryGames I'm thinking more of this, but for the snes.
sadly the snes is so complicated the only way to get really good display is resulting in very expensive hardware. and all the clones suck
I used to hate all hardware clones with a passion (especially emulators on a chip, dime a dozen clones) and even rolled my eyes when I saw that RetroUSB made their own clone hardware.
But then I looked into FPGAs and how much more accurate they are than the trash $50 clones. Now I have an AVS and Super NT of my own.
What inspired you to go with both?
@@SumDumGy the super NT is a SNES FPGA, the AVS a NES FPGA
@Dokter Roetker, I know.
@@SumDumGy oh okay. Wel having both is logical then isn't it, the one plays NES games and the other SNES.
@Doktor Roetker, I know all of this as well. I’m sure there was a reason for asking my question but that was two months ago and I don’t recall what that reason was. It’s possible I misread the original comment and maybe thought the person got the AVS and the Nt Mini, and asked why both? I don’t know at this point.
I have an AVS now, myself, and would also have a Super Nt if Analogue would step up their replenishments.
I have a Retro USB AVS and its a great HD solution to playing NES games on an HD television. Games look beautiful how they should.
Keep em coming chaps, great content!....pls do a Neo Geo Aes vid and also best early lcd / plasma TVs for classic games!
o my god..this video was everythin i wanted to see..great video dudes...i cant wait to see somemore videos and comparsion..n64 hdmi affordable would be sweet...hyyyyypeeeeee...do a retron 5 comparison guys plz..
Is it just me or does the AVS look better than the Analogue NT?
retroUSB AVS looks like shit...
I agree, the AVS looks like an actuall NES clone and not some chunk of metal.
That's It, I'm Getting One.
gotta say im REALLY close to crying as i tried doing my own rgb mod on my top loader and i messed up nes motherboard in the process!! selling the rgb board which still works and saving up for this!! thanks for doing a review as a lot of the ones already on here seemed kind of newbish..
Very nice device! I think I will buy me one.
I already have an original NES and NES PowerPak, but this thing makes me think I might buy it - mostly because of the color palette, scoreboard, automatic cheat codes and - the main thing for me - removing of sprites flickering!
i didn't grow up with an NES, but i gotta admit it does tempt me a bit.
If I just want a dedicated NES cartridge-supporting system, RetroUSB's upcoming portable NES is the only thing that has my interest.
This was great!
Slowly working my way through the whole masterclass. :D I know this is pretty old and things may/will have changed by now. But I do like the look of this AVS.
[Try4ce] The AVS is still an excellent system! Interpolation was added in a firmware update after this video was made, so it's even better now!
I like the look of it
If the AVS had a composite out with lightgun support, i'd buy it in a heartbeat. My gameroom is USUALLY hooked through a flatscreen, but i have a CRT also, and if it could do it all i'd be sold..
I got an Analogue NT with an everdrive N8, and a Super NT with a SD2SNES and OEM used controllers for both. Perfect setup! Now they need to make a Genesis and Neo Geo FPGA console.
I this played SNES/SFC games I would have pre-ordered it. Every now and then I come across something that my Retron 5 won't play so I'd love to have something like that on-hand for those cases.
It is very tempting on getting the avs. I will have to wait until the nes mini comes out before I make my decision since that comes with built in games and I don't have a lot of nes games only a few. So the nes mini might be perfect for me.
Or pickup the AVS and a flash cart like the PowerPak or Everdrive N8 and pretty much play all the games you want from the NES library
Agent22817 Yeah that does sound like a pretty good idea.
AVS plus HDMI to AV plus a CRT or PVM = working lightgun and most authentic possible NES experience
TheKHfan358over3d do you have test it out that set up ?
I play my NES games on a sofrmodded Wii running in 240p component. It looks and plays excellent.
Looks great!!! Also I hope you guys will be comparing the NT Mini with this, once it comes out. I love to see a direct comparison between the two. Thanks!!
[Try4ce] We would LOVE to do that, but it all depends on whether we can get our hands on an Nt Mini. We hope to.
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It's cheaper than buying a real NES and a framemeister
Unless you have other 240p consoles that you want high-quality video out of.
That's the main reason I want to get a Framemeister, since it can handle multiple consoles with their original hardware. The main drawback is the older systems requiring internal mods, especially the NES.
I rather play a Modified version of the Original Famicom with longer cords.
the framemeister is not a 370 dollars? the console is 185
Or just play on an old CRT and not worry about making stuff work right for modern tech.
The more I watch this AVS system, the more I want to get it. And, since retroUSB recently added the "Unsaturated" color palette, the AVS looks like the best way to play NES on HDTVs without spending $400+
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Can't wait to see the review of the miniNES, since I don't own any carts, its compact and uses a Wii remote port with an included controllers and uses a HDMI output it looks like a pretty good device for the price all considered. Hopefully it's better than the VC's video output though seeing how dark that Mario 3 footage looked.
confirmed by Nintendo. the brightness, sharpness and color have been fixed. no details yet on resolution output.
good review
I TURNED IT UP at the Ninja Gaiden fight music!! YEAH!!
Ahhh if they'd have made it look like a front load nes I would have been sold. The sprite limit doubler is the real kicker for me. I wonder if one could gut this thing and reshell it into an nes.
Now that's a system I'd like to test out. I've spend the past 9 years looking at a variety of hardware clones and I've got bored of seeing the same flawed clone chipsets over and over again in a different box. It would be nice to test something different for a change.
Would love to see this happen for the snes