RetroUSB sells their AVS NES clone system. It's also FPGA, can take NES & Famicom carts as well as use the Disk System. It's only $185. The one fault it may have is that it runs games at 720p rather than at 1080p.
@@DJ_Macphisto 720 over 1080 on 8bit is not really that big of a deal if you ask me. I use my AVS on my 4K TV and 1440p PC moitor and it looks so good on both. (the tv offcause softscales it to "4K")
I work in a retro game shop and I give credit to a bunch of my knowledge to you Metal Jesus. Thanks for making awesome content as I'm sure its inspired more people than just me to pursue our passion.
I really love MJR and his videos as well but I have to admit when it comes to proper knowledge and research there are more accurate channels on RUclips for this topic. Modern Vintage Gamer or The Gaming Historian are top tier level of research and very accurate in terms of in depth knowledge. MJR is however very relatable as his videos are made with passion for the hobby and it shows.
"The peoples wish made always the best consoles" Tommy Tommerico. ;) A emulation console borrrriiiiinnnnng. Its funny reading such comments. Have you invested money in the polyscam? ;)
After seeing number 6...seriously, I'm glad I got a RetroUSB AVS. Only issue with it is the pin connection is ridiculously tight. But man is it fantastic.
it looks like a cheap piece of junk tho. the only reason i didn't buy one is that ridiculous door and the super cheap looking build quality. how does the door just not snap off over time?
I use the Cyber Gadget Retro Freak. It supports 12 consoles (PC Engine, TurboGrafx-16, Super Grafx, NES, Famicom, SNES, Super Famicom, SEGA Genesis, SEGA Mega Drive, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance) 13 consoles if you have the Sega Power Base Converter for Sega Master System support. Plus, it lets you copy your physical cartridges to a micro SD card so you can keep your carts safe!
I saw a video from Pat The NES Punk a while back, basically doing a shout-out for the product while saying it was "in development"; since then most of what I've found "on the Internet" is people growling about refunds. Could you provide a useful link?
Ngl, watched this hoping there'd be am update on the Polymega. That thing is exactly what I need in my game room, and yet their communication has been beyond abysmal
The Retron 5 is my most favorite of the bunch. Not only is it reliable, I had no difficulty getting almost all of my NES/SNES/GB/Genesis carts to read and play. The emulation features of the retron 5 rock, and the ability to use an sd card to store and use translation patches is a Godsend. Although the included controller sucks, you can use any NES/SNES/Genesis controller or a third party knock-off controller to play. Imagine playing Sonic the Hedgehog with a Super NES-style controller. That would've been sacrilegious 30 years ago.
One of the staff members from Polymega was on a Polymega Stream that Popixel was doing a few weeks ago, and he was communicating a ton about the Polymega. He was stating part of the hold up, and that they have about 5000 units they’re expecting to receive from the distribution plant to start shipping for customers in May. Great video as always, Metal Jesus!
I love the Mega SG too; it was the first Analogue console I got (now I have the Super NT and the Mini Noir). You can even hook it up to an original Sega CD and play those games on it too.
I had bought the Retron 5 several years back and I truly loved it! I love the design and it played flawlessly. Yeah, I only used the crappy controller it came with 1 time and that was it lol. It's also awesome that you can play whatever system controller you want that supports it. Oh yeah, and the fact that it's an emulator that can save and load at any point is pretty sweet.
13:06 I just want to add that the "awesome mix tape" meme is a reference not to Guardians of the Galaxy, but originally to the 1997 movie "Boogie Nights", that Guardians got it from. Both cool movies, but the original "awesome mix tape" is from the 1997 film.
Informative and a joy to watch, as usual, waiting for the new pickups video with Reggie dying to see what you guys have picked up over the past few months.
Same here. Not a fan of these clone consoles that dump the rom save games and aren't able to save to the cartridge itself. Need to be able to pick up where I left off on portable hardware for Gameboy/SNES games
Mike sent me the upcoming RetroTink5xPro, but I haven't had time to mess with it yet. But based on his previous products, it will probably be a winner too.
I find the most compelling argument for clone consoles is reliability. My original SNES just can't handle the power-draw of the SD2SNES and starting blacking out after about a month of use. It's similarly nice not having to worry about batteries dying or capacitors failing.
@@MetalJesusRocks You should check out this vid, it'll tell you how to get the settings for your Retron SQ right to get it operating properly. ruclips.net/video/KPcHN-RSN6M/видео.html
There needs to be an Atari 5200 clone console! I gotta mention it every time these are brought up, but I guess the lacking interest is keeping them from being made. That 5200 hardware has so many problems, modern support would be greatly appreciated.
FrameRater I can completely agree with your sentiments here! An Atari 5200 clone console whether a pure hardware clone, emulation, or an emulation hardware Atari 5200 clone console would definitely be a great asset.
@@daniellebackus819 I got mine at a retro video game store 5 or 6 years ago. I did a search online just now and they do seem hard to find, or very marked up. I suggest contacting local game stores to see if they have any still in stock. You could also try sending Hyperkin an email to see if they can help.
I would have liked to see the Retrousb AVS included. It's a more affordable FPGA NES that you can actually still buy and which has a different cartridge loading system.
Purchased my AVS 2 years ago. Just a quality affordable and available Fpga Nes- Famicom system. No idea why MJR did not make mention of this stand out console. Perhaps they didn't send him a free unit for review.
@@RetroGamePlayers How does it compare to the Analogue in terms of cartridge connection reliability. In theory, the horizontal loading system should be less prone to wobble, but how does that work out in practice?
@@madcrowmaxwell So I bought the Analogue Noir, which doesn't have that wobble. The AVS cartridge was like a deathgrip on carts, I had a tough time pulling the damn thing out. If I remember the AVS only supports 720p.
@@madcrowmaxwell It's fine. Grips well in both Nes and famicom orientations being horizontal and vertical. The Nes pin connection was tight initially and freed up with usage. Zero problems with reliability after 2 years of usage. I have both Analogue SG and NT consoles however no matter how i tried just couldn't justify the cost of the noir. The Avs looks great in 720p. No need for 1080p. Cheers.
I love the Retro AVS! This is such a great way to play your Nes games and much cheaper than Analogue. I have a preorder for the Polymega and cannot understand why they just go radio silent. That being said I'm still hopeful it will come out!
Great video, Love you commentary on each of the consoles, also as one of the main composers from carpet shark i really appreciate the little clip you added, If you where wondering I'm Logana, I plan on sticking around here for a bit, happy to just discover you through the project I got the pleasure to help make, and I also get to compose all the music for the next game after Carpet Shark, sorry about the comment mainly being about a tiny clip at the end, this is seriously interesting stuff, Can't wait to see another video in my inbox, and in the mean time im gonna go back and binge your other content
I love my Retron 5. I'd say I'm a casual retro gamer and it has been great for playing those games. I also don't have the patience for those older games, so I appreciate the save states.
@@BobbyxZx I’m glad I’m not the only one! I hear there’s a possibility it may be our TVs to blame though. If we have cheap quality TVs, particularly newer models without game modes, the lag is caused by that. My TV qualifies.
Love the Atariman, it look super cool. I'm sure there is a market for it even if it costs $100s considering retro game enthusiasts pay $800 for a high end NES/Famicom FPGA clone.
The reason it cost that much money was because it was one of the earliest FPGA devices mass produced, and so it was incredibly expensive to make. The atari man was from the same era, and would likely have cost even more given the lower demand for atari. Now, with more mass production for FPGAs, things are much cheaper. Which is reflected in analogues pricing since.
Also worth mentioning if you are on a really tight budget you can use a stream box with steamlink app. Then connecting a controller to it and streaming emulated games from your gaming PC to the living room, rather well!
I got the NT mini noir V2 a few weeks ago and I love it! One thing I did notice in their description of this newer model, is that they improved the cart issue. I never had the first model, so I can’t really compare, but I will say I’ve had zero issues thus far :)
I don't own any clone consoles, only the ones I've never gotten rid of. I will say that clone consoles are for any die-hard gamer who wants a dose of nostalgia.
I have the NT mini noir and on three different occasions I lost a save file from bumping the console. So now if the game has battery back up I usually use my AVS. I do love my NT noir but the floppy slot sucks.
If you're disappointed by the Analog NT, you should look at retroUSB's AVS system. It is also a hardware clone (not software emulation) that not only holds on to the cartridge tighter (alot tighter, almost too tight), but has much more of a NES look to it than Analogs version. I think you'd like it.
The Nt Mini Noir has reinvigorated my love of NES games and the majority of games I have played to completion lately have been on this thing hooked up via RGB to a CRT. That said, you are 100% correct in calling them out on that cartridge slot - I really do have to fiddle with carts a lot to get them to play and thats with super clean pins.
I have the Cyber Gadget Retro Freak - it's essentially a more robust version of the Retron5. Not only does it support all the same systems as the Retron5, it also adds PC Engine and TurboGrafx16 support as well as gives you the option of copying the ROMs to SD card so you don't even need to use the cartridges anymore.
Hey MetalJesus, this is a question that’s off topic but may you post a video on things to do in Seattle during Covid? I plan on visiting your state and would like to hear about the tourist and non tourist attractions that you like/recommend. Thanks again and love your content 🤘
The only one of those that I have is the Super NT. I ended up paying a premium for it, because COVID, but my only regret is not having bought it, when I had the chance. Now, I'm impatiently waiting for the restock on the MEGA SG.
A few months ago they even updated the system firmware, so I know they are still working on it. But as to the overall status, your guess is as good as mine. Really wish they would have responded to my request this week for an update.
@@MetalJesusRocks Fingers crossed! In the chat of a popixel stream last weekend Eric C stated they expect 5000 units to ship in October if all goes as expected. Hope that becomes a reality!
One clone system I didn't see here (and my personal favorite) : the Retro Freak by Cyber Gadget. It plays everything the Retron 5 does, plus PCE/SGX/TG16.
@Nik Im going to put custom firmware and boot from card most of the time so thatd suck but wouldnt ruin the consoles use for me. And adds psx, pce, & wonderswan. With no adapter to use original controllers too, unlike retrofreaks usb ports.
@@williammiller3277 I never really put cfw on the R5 but it sounds like they've come a long way since I owned one. Having all the ports in the console itself is a big win.
Finally some clarity on Clone consoles! I did not want to spend another coin on something that could not play classic games as I remember it... or play it at all. Thank you!
It’s worth noting that the Retron1 HD (and possibly other retron consoles) has the same issue that the analogue nt has that Metal Jesus points out, where the cartridge does not stay firmly locked in the cartridge slot.. If you bump it or it moves at all while the game is running, the game will glitch out or freeze..
Personally the only problem I've had with mine was with trying to use the pack in controller. It always crashed the system for me. Other then that I love it, especially for importing games.
Just received my Analogue NT Mini Noir and Super NT today, haven't unwrapped them yet but super excited. Shame about the NT cartridge thing... no other review videos bought that up...
I went through 3 Retron77's and all of them couldn't play certain games for some reason. The games were different on each one too. I was so mad cause it looked good on my tv. Has anyone else had problems with game carts not working?
Hey Jason, I really love this video! A while ago I actually sent you a message through your website about my favourite clone console, which you do not have. It is subject to the same sort of controversy as the Retron 5, but it is so so so much better. It is the Retro Freak. This thing is AMAZING. So... it plays all the systems that the Retron 5 does + ALL the systems Mega SG plays (some with adapters) + PC-Engine/TurboGrafx-16 cards. AND THAT'S NOT THE BEST PART! Unlike the bulky Retron 5, the Retro Freak detaches from the cartridge reader so you can have a console the size of a Playstation Vita TV hooked up to your television and ready to play thousands of games. Unlike the Retron 5 the ROMs ripped from your cartridges are stored on the console. You also get 100 save states per game, the ability to patch ROMs (including translations), and you can download your cartridge saves. The thing is amazing and absolutely worth importing from Japan. Here is the Amazon link: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Retro-Freak-Compatible-Controller-Adapter/dp/B00ZZ70KMG/ Sega adapter: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B017NDI4PO/ Close up pic of how the console slides into the cartridge reader: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51R0pseVRLL._AC_SL1007_.jpg & the console slots: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y1g263SzL._AC_SL1026_.jpg It plays all of these consoles flawlessly, but with a little lag (like the Retron) due to emulation. Still, worth every penny. I have a Super-NT, but I usually play my SNES games on the Retro Freak because ease of access and the save states. I have opinions on the PolyMega. I am the right target audience for their product. I would like to save space and have a CD based gaming console all-in-one like the Retro Freak is for 8 to 16 bit consoles. I have been waiting for this machine to come out for years, but I refuse to pre-order. I cannot afford to give these people all this money (now $400) for them to sit on for years. Here is what I believe is happening: They are manufacturing these things to spec, meaning as they get money in they will make them. Rather than create 100,000 of these machines and sell them, they are waiting until they have enough money in hand to make 1000 of them and manufacture just that amount. That business model guarantees that this console will never come to market. This is why they cancelled their relationship with WalMart. As most retailers do, WalMart does not capture the funds until they have the items to ship to the customers. Since PolyMega is using funds already received to manufacture, their relationship with Walmart could not work. Making these things to spec when money is received is not inherently bad, but these people are lying to their customers. People like Retro RGB make the Gameboy Advance Consolizer to spec, but let customers know that is what is going on. PlayMaji want everyone to think that the thing they are offering exists and can just be bought like a Retron 5. It does not and I highly doubt it ever will. The fact that they sent out units exclusively to youtube influencers like yourself only adds more credence to the fact that it appears as if they only want to fool the public into thinking the thing exists. My hope is that someone with credibility and manufacturing capabilities sees how much interest there is in something like the PolyMega and creates an actual CD/DVD based emulation machine that can play Sega Saturn & Dreamcast, PlayStation 1 & 2 and all the other CD based consoles that the PolyMega does. I know for a fact that Retro Pie is already supporting using physical CDs (retropie.org.uk/2020/04/retropie-4-6-released-with-raspberry-pi-4-support/) and it won't be long before DVD support is possible. The technology is close for an all in 1 console to play all CD based consoles + PS2, GameCube, & Wii (through Dolphin). The minute someone actually creates that console, it instantly becomes my new favourite clone console. Until then it is without a doubt, the Retro Freak! Take care, and thanks for all the awesome videos!
I was close to preordering the polimega, but this was just as they pulled from walmart and glad I held out. If they get it out I will consider getting it again.
You can run the everdrive or whatever roms you want to off off an SD with the "jailbreak". Other cores are there for other consoles too. So if you don't mind not using cartridges than it's not an issue.
Dude, there is no issue. Would you stuff your hand in the nes port and start pumping the cart up and down and say... "holyshit this thing sucks it fucked my game!" no you wouldn't. There is no issue with the "slack" unless you live near a volcano and earthquakes daily.
@@TheRetroChallengerV Clearly you didn't have the experience where the slightest vibration in the floor like someone walking into the room would cause your cartridge based console to freeze. NES would do it and I have a Genesis that does it. They don't have save states so it can be a big deal.
@@ToothpickMan11 clearly something must have been wrong with either consoles or carts as we were 6 kids in the house and it would VERY rarely happen. Now I also own NT mini noir super Nt and a mega SG and still have 0 issues with 3 kids of my own in the house. Clearly you're doing something very wrong
@@dillonqaphsiel7977 i sure hope not. I can't find anything about it on their website or Facebook, got any links or a post about it or something? Thanks.
Not sure where you got that from... They posted yesterday on Twitter and Facebook from the shop about having midnight sales for Pokemon Snap, Returnal, and R-Type final.
Pink Gorilla is just fine and busy as ever. They are even thinking of expanding outside the Seattle area. If you ever come to Seattle, it should be one of your first stops!
@@MetalJesusRocks Will do! I can’t believe I’ve never been there I’m from Washington State and I’m moving back there this year. It’ll be my first stop in Seattle.
Thank you for doing this! I've retired my original systems for my son to use because they're just worn out and I've been looking at a clone to use I might have to get a Retron 5 because most of what he plays are my old Nintendo and SNES games.
Madlittlepixel released a video where he accessed the Retroarch version that the Hyperkin Sq is using and improved the GBA performance greatly. It turns out it's less a firmware issue and more really bad Retroarch settings. The frameskip for the GBA emulator they are using was set to 4.
I talk to him almost every week, but he and I are still waiting to be fully vaccinated before we sit on the couch again and do the whole Pickups thing. I get my 2nd one in May, so we'll get there. Thanks for asking!
I never knew there were multi gamesystems in one console..I got introduced to them Friday, March 11th..Of This year(2022) I am so wanting to get me one now..I was like a kid again. Brought my childhood back..And thanks for this video doing the reviews on the systems explaining them..Youve gained another sub!!
Pretty solid list. I can't really argue with your top choice as it seems to be without flaws. As a fan of your channel I do have a slight request. Could you try to put labels on your gameplay in the future? Not everyone can recognize fan favorites like Aleste at 15:09 or hidden gems like Lilo and Stitch at 11:06. It's a small thing that I think would go a long way. Thanks, Jason. :)
Wow, I had no idea the NT Mini cartridge slot was that bad! That makes me more comfortable having not ordered the Noir on the last run. I really like my Retro AVS anyway. It has a death grip on your carts, but I just put an Everdrive in and never need to pull it out anyway. Thanks for the rank list!
Hyperkin also has a 3 in 1 adapter for playing Game Gear, SMS, etc. Works with the retron 5 and retrofreak systems. I'm happy to finally play these games again.
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I cannot ever imagine paying almost $900 on an nes/famicom clone. That is absolutely insane.
That's the after market pricing. New it was 500 but they don't make it any more.
Especially one that doesn't read cartridges well
@@39zack Its sure as fuck not worth $500 new either.
RetroUSB sells their AVS NES clone system. It's also FPGA, can take NES & Famicom carts as well as use the Disk System. It's only $185. The one fault it may have is that it runs games at 720p rather than at 1080p.
@@DJ_Macphisto 720 over 1080 on 8bit is not really that big of a deal if you ask me. I use my AVS on my 4K TV and 1440p PC moitor and it looks so good on both.
(the tv offcause softscales it to "4K")
THUS BEGINS THE CLONE WARS!!
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*Beast Wars guitar riff intensifies*
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I work in a retro game shop and I give credit to a bunch of my knowledge to you Metal Jesus. Thanks for making awesome content as I'm sure its inspired more people than just me to pursue our passion.
I appreciate that. Rock on! 🤘
I really love MJR and his videos as well but I have to admit when it comes to proper knowledge and research there are more accurate channels on RUclips for this topic.
Modern Vintage Gamer or The Gaming Historian are top tier level of research and very accurate in terms of in depth knowledge.
MJR is however very relatable as his videos are made with passion for the hobby and it shows.
@@jarodnorth7134 Lode Runner, NES
@@MetalJesusRocks If I wanted to um...worship you? Would that be an issue?
the atari walkman guy did an amazing job, what a beauty
I love the Walkman inspiration in the design. On a production unit would obviously love to see the cut outs for the ports be flush for the inputs.
@@jarodnorth7134 Load Runner
21:20 CARPET SHAAAAARK! Thanks for putting my game in there! Was wondering which clone systems it was able to play on. Great video as always 🤘🏻
You bet!
Carpet Shark looks awesome!!!
@@KBXband Thank you! 🔳🦈
It's always a good day when MJR uploads.
You're the best!
@@MetalJesusRocks Same to you! Keep up the great content.
SWAT kats needs to come back man seriously 😁😁😁
@@random_gamer_guy82 Hell yea dude, it does.
I really do wish that the people over at Polymega would be more transparent with the community because I REALLY want the Polymega to succeed.
I agree. This is a console that is absolutely exactly what i want. I really hope it will be released this year👍
Seems fans are more interested in Polymega succeeding than Polymega themselves lol.
Fuk dat bootleg Soulja Boy shiz
"The peoples wish made always the best consoles" Tommy Tommerico. ;) A emulation console borrrriiiiinnnnng. Its funny reading such comments. Have you invested money in the polyscam? ;)
I totally agree. I collect physical media and would love one device for my older consoles. So many options. But not really interested in the modules
After seeing number 6...seriously, I'm glad I got a RetroUSB AVS. Only issue with it is the pin connection is ridiculously tight. But man is it fantastic.
I am surprised that the AVS Retro USB is not in this video. It would rank high if it was.
@@QuinnNoble agree
Interesting! Thanks for the tip.
it looks like a cheap piece of junk tho. the only reason i didn't buy one is that ridiculous door and the super cheap looking build quality. how does the door just not snap off over time?
I hope they will release an updated version one day with 1080p support and I would like some design improvements.
MJR seeing this video straight up helped me get out of bed this morning. Thanks for all you do here on the tube!
I use the Cyber Gadget Retro Freak. It supports 12 consoles (PC Engine, TurboGrafx-16, Super Grafx, NES, Famicom, SNES, Super Famicom, SEGA Genesis, SEGA Mega Drive, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Game Boy Advance) 13 consoles if you have the Sega Power Base Converter for Sega Master System support. Plus, it lets you copy your physical cartridges to a micro SD card so you can keep your carts safe!
@@jamespope398 noone asked
Great video! I hope the Polymega can still come out, but not looking good for them ATM.
I saw a video from Pat The NES Punk a while back, basically doing a shout-out for the product while saying it was "in development"; since then most of what I've found "on the Internet" is people growling about refunds. Could you provide a useful link?
Actually: I did another search just now, and Nintendo Life are saying there may be a Light Gun in development! [drool]
Hoping so too. Even just for selfish reasons. I've got one pre-ordered with every module so..... I'd like that to happen haha
oh l@@k its the Immortal one :O Wooo hoo!!
Hi there big guy :O
@@nickalotdegit They want to use a version of the Sinden Lightgun. Check it out: www.sindenlightgun.com/
Ngl, watched this hoping there'd be am update on the Polymega. That thing is exactly what I need in my game room, and yet their communication has been beyond abysmal
Not exactly all-stars at business or delivering a product either.
My dream is if they partner with Sinden and release Polymega with a bundle pack with a Sinden light gun. Oh man!!!
Would it be a good idea to get one?
It's out now btw
The Retron 5 is my most favorite of the bunch. Not only is it reliable, I had no difficulty getting almost all of my NES/SNES/GB/Genesis carts to read and play. The emulation features of the retron 5 rock, and the ability to use an sd card to store and use translation patches is a Godsend. Although the included controller sucks, you can use any NES/SNES/Genesis controller or a third party knock-off controller to play. Imagine playing Sonic the Hedgehog with a Super NES-style controller. That would've been sacrilegious 30 years ago.
I always looks forward to whatever content you put out. Metal Jesus really does rock!
One of the staff members from Polymega was on a Polymega Stream that Popixel was doing a few weeks ago, and he was communicating a ton about the Polymega. He was stating part of the hold up, and that they have about 5000 units they’re expecting to receive from the distribution plant to start shipping for customers in May.
Great video as always, Metal Jesus!
I’ll believe it when I see it
Sounds like they could be victims of COVID as well to get their parts and units built and shipped timely?
May of 2022?
This channel always makes me happy, thank you.
I love the Mega SG too; it was the first Analogue console I got (now I have the Super NT and the Mini Noir). You can even hook it up to an original Sega CD and play those games on it too.
I love Analogue products, too! Mega Sg complemented with Terraonion’s MegaSD is wonderful. I also have Nt Mini Noir and have Pocket pre-ordered.
I had bought the Retron 5 several years back and I truly loved it! I love the design and it played flawlessly. Yeah, I only used the crappy controller it came with 1 time and that was it lol. It's also awesome that you can play whatever system controller you want that supports it. Oh yeah, and the fact that it's an emulator that can save and load at any point is pretty sweet.
you can also "hack" it to play roms and load ips patches. if it were fpga, it would be the best console on the market. the lag tho...
And I can confirm that it plays Castlevania 3!!!!!
Love the Cannonball Run poster. One of my favorite movies.
13:06 I just want to add that the "awesome mix tape" meme is a reference not to Guardians of the Galaxy, but originally to the 1997 movie "Boogie Nights", that Guardians got it from. Both cool movies, but the original "awesome mix tape" is from the 1997 film.
I'm sat here wishing it was a real cassette player... with Supercharger compaitility for the Atari 2600 side!
Informative and a joy to watch, as usual, waiting for the new pickups video with Reggie dying to see what you guys have picked up over the past few months.
I love the idea of the clone system but I'm good with legit hardware, then connect via RetroTink. I do love my Mega SG, though.
Same here. Not a fan of these clone consoles that dump the rom save games and aren't able to save to the cartridge itself. Need to be able to pick up where I left off on portable hardware for Gameboy/SNES games
Mike sent me the upcoming RetroTink5xPro, but I haven't had time to mess with it yet. But based on his previous products, it will probably be a winner too.
I use a framemiester on my newer tv but same difference I guess? Otherwise I’m rocking a SCART connection to a CRT for everything PS2 and backwards 👍
I find the most compelling argument for clone consoles is reliability. My original SNES just can't handle the power-draw of the SD2SNES and starting blacking out after about a month of use. It's similarly nice not having to worry about batteries dying or capacitors failing.
@@MetalJesusRocks You should check out this vid, it'll tell you how to get the settings for your Retron SQ right to get it operating properly. ruclips.net/video/KPcHN-RSN6M/видео.html
There needs to be an Atari 5200 clone console! I gotta mention it every time these are brought up, but I guess the lacking interest is keeping them from being made. That 5200 hardware has so many problems, modern support would be greatly appreciated.
FrameRater I can completely agree with your sentiments here! An Atari 5200 clone console whether a pure hardware clone, emulation, or an emulation hardware Atari 5200 clone console would definitely be a great asset.
I love the Retron 5. Being able to easily mod it to play roms from an SD card, and to be able to use original controllers is awesome.
Do you remember where you purchased yours? Having trouble finding one just from spending ~10 mins looking online.
@@daniellebackus819 I got mine at a retro video game store 5 or 6 years ago. I did a search online just now and they do seem hard to find, or very marked up. I suggest contacting local game stores to see if they have any still in stock. You could also try sending Hyperkin an email to see if they can help.
@@sinthetic4878 thanks for the advice!
@@daniellebackus819 I just got mine from Amazon I think they still have them in stock
Saw them on Amazon a few months ago almost bought one
I would have liked to see the Retrousb AVS included. It's a more affordable FPGA NES that you can actually still buy and which has a different cartridge loading system.
That one is really good, I had one for awhile and only sold it when I finally got a Analogue
Purchased my AVS 2 years ago. Just a quality affordable and available Fpga Nes- Famicom system. No idea why MJR did not make mention of this stand out console. Perhaps they didn't send him a free unit for review.
@@RetroGamePlayers How does it compare to the Analogue in terms of cartridge connection reliability. In theory, the horizontal loading system should be less prone to wobble, but how does that work out in practice?
@@madcrowmaxwell So I bought the Analogue Noir, which doesn't have that wobble. The AVS cartridge was like a deathgrip on carts, I had a tough time pulling the damn thing out. If I remember the AVS only supports 720p.
@@madcrowmaxwell It's fine. Grips well in both Nes and famicom orientations being horizontal and vertical. The Nes pin connection was tight initially and freed up with usage. Zero problems with reliability after 2 years of usage. I have both Analogue SG and NT consoles however no matter how i tried just couldn't justify the cost of the noir. The Avs looks great in 720p. No need for 1080p. Cheers.
i have the nes and snes analog systems and love them both how ever i’m waiting for a really good n64 system
I love the Retro AVS! This is such a great way to play your Nes games and much cheaper than Analogue. I have a preorder for the Polymega and cannot understand why they just go radio silent. That being said I'm still hopeful it will come out!
Not gonna lie. I am very jealous of all your analogue consoles. Great video man!
Love your content MJR just dropping by to show some love!
Now, this is some good internet content right here
Hopefully Analogue designs the Duo in such a way that the Hue cards are read easily. Not exactly a dime a dozen these days for Turbografx 16 games.
I 3D printed a part for my Analogue NT Mini Noir and it works fantastic. Sucks that the first Mini wasn't up to snuff.
print one for metaljesus, im sure hed appreciate it !
Open-source it😀 great job! Which i had a 3D printer...my co-worker does😊
@@jengelenm just search for analogue nt cartridge slot and you'll find it
I just use a famicom flash cart, problem solved.
Great video, Love you commentary on each of the consoles, also as one of the main composers from carpet shark i really appreciate the little clip you added, If you where wondering I'm Logana, I plan on sticking around here for a bit, happy to just discover you through the project I got the pleasure to help make, and I also get to compose all the music for the next game after Carpet Shark, sorry about the comment mainly being about a tiny clip at the end, this is seriously interesting stuff, Can't wait to see another video in my inbox, and in the mean time im gonna go back and binge your other content
I love my Retron 5. I'd say I'm a casual retro gamer and it has been great for playing those games. I also don't have the patience for those older games, so I appreciate the save states.
by "new firmware" they mean setting frameskip to "0" in retroarch core for GBA.
I love my Retron5, translates import games to English with downloaded patches...YES PLEASE!
...but the lag! Damn. Mike Tyson’s Punch Out is unplayable. Super Mario Bros.? I can release the jump button entirely before Mario even jumps!
@@SumDumGy i use mine to play famicom wars in english. it's about the only use i get out of it due to the lag.
@@BobbyxZx I’m glad I’m not the only one! I hear there’s a possibility it may be our TVs to blame though. If we have cheap quality TVs, particularly newer models without game modes, the lag is caused by that. My TV qualifies.
Yes yes yes a new video, thanks MJ
You bet!
Love the Atariman, it look super cool. I'm sure there is a market for it even if it costs $100s considering retro game enthusiasts pay $800 for a high end NES/Famicom FPGA clone.
The reason it cost that much money was because it was one of the earliest FPGA devices mass produced, and so it was incredibly expensive to make. The atari man was from the same era, and would likely have cost even more given the lower demand for atari. Now, with more mass production for FPGAs, things are much cheaper. Which is reflected in analogues pricing since.
Also worth mentioning if you are on a really tight budget you can use a stream box with steamlink app. Then connecting a controller to it and streaming emulated games from your gaming PC to the living room, rather well!
I got the NT mini noir V2 a few weeks ago and I love it! One thing I did notice in their description of this newer model, is that they improved the cart issue. I never had the first model, so I can’t really compare, but I will say I’ve had zero issues thus far :)
Analogue NT should be #1. The genius behind recreating the cartridge slot problems of the original NES just shows the commitment to authenticity.
The new Retron 5 along with it's hq2x filter feature is the best in my opinion.
Don't forget about Mega CD support on the Mega SG! When I saw it was number one I thought it would be due to the Mega CD
I don't own any clone consoles, only the ones I've never gotten rid of. I will say that clone consoles are for any die-hard gamer who wants a dose of nostalgia.
I wish PolyMega could be more successful to meet the demands & finished their final products. People are still waiting for their pre-orders from 2018.
I have the NT mini noir and on three different occasions I lost a save file from bumping the console. So now if the game has battery back up I usually use my AVS. I do love my NT noir but the floppy slot sucks.
If you're disappointed by the Analog NT, you should look at retroUSB's AVS system. It is also a hardware clone (not software emulation) that not only holds on to the cartridge tighter (alot tighter, almost too tight), but has much more of a NES look to it than Analogs version. I think you'd like it.
The Mega SG is so much more though. Expansion port for real Sega cd hardware and 32x support via the Analogue DAC. :(
You won me over on the Polymega - hoping that it's able to come out!
hey @MetalJesusRocks quick request, any way you can put the game titles up on the screen when they are shown in your videos?
THIS!!!!
He’s been ignoring that request for years.
Your clone console content has been super helpful to me as I try to navigate the market!
Glad to hear it!
The Retron 77 is really interesting!
(And by the way, great video ^w^)
Glad you think so!
The Nt Mini Noir has reinvigorated my love of NES games and the majority of games I have played to completion lately have been on this thing hooked up via RGB to a CRT. That said, you are 100% correct in calling them out on that cartridge slot - I really do have to fiddle with carts a lot to get them to play and thats with super clean pins.
I'm currently building a Mister system. We need a Mister vs Analogue comparison!
Beyond cart support I can't think of much the Analogue systems have over a MiSTer
Have carts? Buy Analogue. Have no carts, by MiSTer and save money. Easy. The end result is the same.
@@jasperfredrickson4420 you'd think but some people get angry when you try to inform them of alternatives
@@jasperfredrickson4420 Yeah I have all the Analogue systems and whenever I play the Mister I wonder why I'm keeping them.
Lol the mister. It looks stupid. Who wants to look at that frankenstein POS
I love seeing what old counsels were made as prior to dial up internet as a window in time of what they viewed would be frame work of future devices
I always felt that the Polymega was too expensive.
I have the Cyber Gadget Retro Freak - it's essentially a more robust version of the Retron5. Not only does it support all the same systems as the Retron5, it also adds PC Engine and TurboGrafx16 support as well as gives you the option of copying the ROMs to SD card so you don't even need to use the cartridges anymore.
What I wouldn't give to finally get my hands on the Polymega.
I managed to get a Retron 5 for 75$ CAD and I do not regret it one bit! I never had any serious issue with it so despite its flaws, I love it!
metal jesus does rock!
Hey MetalJesus, this is a question that’s off topic but may you post a video on things to do in Seattle during Covid? I plan on visiting your state and would like to hear about the tourist and non tourist attractions that you like/recommend. Thanks again and love your content 🤘
The Hyperkin logo looks like a child's memory of the Hyundai logo.
The only one of those that I have is the Super NT. I ended up paying a premium for it, because COVID, but my only regret is not having bought it, when I had the chance.
Now, I'm impatiently waiting for the restock on the MEGA SG.
Been waiting 2.5 years and it's just crazy to see that Polymega sitting there.
Im glad to see it working, i just hope the company can build and ship with their supply chain problems.
A few months ago they even updated the system firmware, so I know they are still working on it. But as to the overall status, your guess is as good as mine. Really wish they would have responded to my request this week for an update.
@@MetalJesusRocks Fingers crossed! In the chat of a popixel stream last weekend Eric C stated they expect 5000 units to ship in October if all goes as expected. Hope that becomes a reality!
@@MetalJesusRocks they've started putting their updates on a changelog on their website.
This is what we need. Not the phoned in videos featuring other channels. What’s up man? Taking lots of vacations?
One clone system I didn't see here (and my personal favorite) : the Retro Freak by Cyber Gadget. It plays everything the Retron 5 does, plus PCE/SGX/TG16.
For like $300 more. More do custom firmware on your retron 5 and do them for less.
@@williammiller3277 I had a R5 previously but all the cart slots died on me within like 2 years.
@Nik Im going to put custom firmware and boot from card most of the time so thatd suck but wouldnt ruin the consoles use for me. And adds psx, pce, & wonderswan. With no adapter to use original controllers too, unlike retrofreaks usb ports.
@@williammiller3277 I never really put cfw on the R5 but it sounds like they've come a long way since I owned one. Having all the ports in the console itself is a big win.
@Nik retrofreak is a good piece of kit. Just cannot justify the price. Wouldnt be upset if I got one as a gift for sure.
I love your videos no matter the topic. Brings me a lot of joy when things are shitty. Gaming is a nice mental escape.
man my first ever game was the smurfs on the atari 2600
Finally some clarity on Clone consoles! I did not want to spend another coin on something that could not play classic games as I remember it... or play it at all. Thank you!
You rock metal jesus!
🤘😎
The channel even says “MetalJesusRocks”! 🙂
It’s worth noting that the Retron1 HD (and possibly other retron consoles) has the same issue that the analogue nt has that Metal Jesus points out, where the cartridge does not stay firmly locked in the cartridge slot.. If you bump it or it moves at all while the game is running, the game will glitch out or freeze..
I keep saying I'm going to pull the plug and pick up a Retron 5, but I haven't yet. Now I'm thinking about it again thanks to this video.
Personally the only problem I've had with mine was with trying to use the pack in controller. It always crashed the system for me. Other then that I love it, especially for importing games.
i had to lube mine with wd40 to get it to let go of the carts (really). search for it on youtube if you dont believe me
Just received my Analogue NT Mini Noir and Super NT today, haven't unwrapped them yet but super excited. Shame about the NT cartridge thing... no other review videos bought that up...
Game Sack did.
@@MetalJesusRocks must have missed that one! Seriously I spent like 4 hours watching reviews before dropping the $500 on it!
I went through 3 Retron77's and all of them couldn't play certain games for some reason. The games were different on each one too. I was so mad cause it looked good on my tv. Has anyone else had problems with game carts not working?
I have also had this problem, so frustrating!
Hey Jason, I really love this video!
A while ago I actually sent you a message through your website about my favourite clone console, which you do not have. It is subject to the same sort of controversy as the Retron 5, but it is so so so much better. It is the Retro Freak. This thing is AMAZING. So... it plays all the systems that the Retron 5 does + ALL the systems Mega SG plays (some with adapters) + PC-Engine/TurboGrafx-16 cards. AND THAT'S NOT THE BEST PART! Unlike the bulky Retron 5, the Retro Freak detaches from the cartridge reader so you can have a console the size of a Playstation Vita TV hooked up to your television and ready to play thousands of games. Unlike the Retron 5 the ROMs ripped from your cartridges are stored on the console. You also get 100 save states per game, the ability to patch ROMs (including translations), and you can download your cartridge saves. The thing is amazing and absolutely worth importing from Japan. Here is the Amazon link: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Retro-Freak-Compatible-Controller-Adapter/dp/B00ZZ70KMG/ Sega adapter: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B017NDI4PO/ Close up pic of how the console slides into the cartridge reader: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51R0pseVRLL._AC_SL1007_.jpg & the console slots: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y1g263SzL._AC_SL1026_.jpg It plays all of these consoles flawlessly, but with a little lag (like the Retron) due to emulation. Still, worth every penny. I have a Super-NT, but I usually play my SNES games on the Retro Freak because ease of access and the save states.
I have opinions on the PolyMega. I am the right target audience for their product. I would like to save space and have a CD based gaming console all-in-one like the Retro Freak is for 8 to 16 bit consoles. I have been waiting for this machine to come out for years, but I refuse to pre-order. I cannot afford to give these people all this money (now $400) for them to sit on for years. Here is what I believe is happening: They are manufacturing these things to spec, meaning as they get money in they will make them. Rather than create 100,000 of these machines and sell them, they are waiting until they have enough money in hand to make 1000 of them and manufacture just that amount. That business model guarantees that this console will never come to market. This is why they cancelled their relationship with WalMart. As most retailers do, WalMart does not capture the funds until they have the items to ship to the customers. Since PolyMega is using funds already received to manufacture, their relationship with Walmart could not work. Making these things to spec when money is received is not inherently bad, but these people are lying to their customers. People like Retro RGB make the Gameboy Advance Consolizer to spec, but let customers know that is what is going on. PlayMaji want everyone to think that the thing they are offering exists and can just be bought like a Retron 5. It does not and I highly doubt it ever will. The fact that they sent out units exclusively to youtube influencers like yourself only adds more credence to the fact that it appears as if they only want to fool the public into thinking the thing exists.
My hope is that someone with credibility and manufacturing capabilities sees how much interest there is in something like the PolyMega and creates an actual CD/DVD based emulation machine that can play Sega Saturn & Dreamcast, PlayStation 1 & 2 and all the other CD based consoles that the PolyMega does. I know for a fact that Retro Pie is already supporting using physical CDs (retropie.org.uk/2020/04/retropie-4-6-released-with-raspberry-pi-4-support/) and it won't be long before DVD support is possible. The technology is close for an all in 1 console to play all CD based consoles + PS2, GameCube, & Wii (through Dolphin). The minute someone actually creates that console, it instantly becomes my new favourite clone console. Until then it is without a doubt, the Retro Freak!
Take care, and thanks for all the awesome videos!
I see MJR, I give a like. Always the best videos
awesome video man, I have the Retro AVS and it's really good
Will the Harmony cartridge and 7800 games work with the Retron 77 ?
Negative on both. The community retron77 build lets one load 2600 roms onto an sd card, which works great. Cheers,
I was close to preordering the polimega, but this was just as they pulled from walmart and glad I held out. If they get it out I will consider getting it again.
Had no idea the Analogue NT Mini had that issue.
You can run the everdrive or whatever roms you want to off off an SD with the "jailbreak". Other cores are there for other consoles too. So if you don't mind not using cartridges than it's not an issue.
Dude, there is no issue. Would you stuff your hand in the nes port and start pumping the cart up and down and say... "holyshit this thing sucks it fucked my game!" no you wouldn't. There is no issue with the "slack" unless you live near a volcano and earthquakes daily.
@@TheRetroChallengerV Or breathe on it
@@TheRetroChallengerV Clearly you didn't have the experience where the slightest vibration in the floor like someone walking into the room would cause your cartridge based console to freeze. NES would do it and I have a Genesis that does it. They don't have save states so it can be a big deal.
@@ToothpickMan11 clearly something must have been wrong with either consoles or carts as we were 6 kids in the house and it would VERY rarely happen.
Now I also own NT mini noir super Nt and a mega SG and still have 0 issues with 3 kids of my own in the house.
Clearly you're doing something very wrong
Great video! I still love the Retro-Freak, such a great bang for the buck !
They’re all like Either really good or just plain bad
I love my Super Nt! You can use it with a switch pro controller too.
What? No way. How?
You should do another Pink Gorilla tour man.
I think their out of business
@@dillonqaphsiel7977 i sure hope not. I can't find anything about it on their website or Facebook, got any links or a post about it or something? Thanks.
Not sure where you got that from... They posted yesterday on Twitter and Facebook from the shop about having midnight sales for Pokemon Snap, Returnal, and R-Type final.
Pink Gorilla is just fine and busy as ever. They are even thinking of expanding outside the Seattle area. If you ever come to Seattle, it should be one of your first stops!
@@MetalJesusRocks Will do! I can’t believe I’ve never been there I’m from Washington State and I’m moving back there this year. It’ll be my first stop in Seattle.
Thank you for doing this! I've retired my original systems for my son to use because they're just worn out and I've been looking at a clone to use I might have to get a Retron 5 because most of what he plays are my old Nintendo and SNES games.
I'm a few seconds into the video. If Analogue doesn't win, I riot.
Madlittlepixel released a video where he accessed the Retroarch version that the Hyperkin Sq is using and improved the GBA performance greatly. It turns out it's less a firmware issue and more really bad Retroarch settings. The frameskip for the GBA emulator they are using was set to 4.
When are goin to see you and Reggie again?
I talk to him almost every week, but he and I are still waiting to be fully vaccinated before we sit on the couch again and do the whole Pickups thing. I get my 2nd one in May, so we'll get there. Thanks for asking!
@@MetalJesusRocks ok that's great thank you 👍
@@MetalJesusRocks J&J all day
I never knew there were multi gamesystems in one console..I got introduced to them Friday, March 11th..Of This year(2022) I am so wanting to get me one now..I was like a kid again. Brought my childhood back..And thanks for this video doing the reviews on the systems explaining them..Youve gained another sub!!
Petition for a MetalJesusLawyer TV series! (Starring Joe from Game Sack)
Man this is an amazing video i want to get a few of them but was not sure till now
What is the game @ 10:15?
Lady sia
Pretty solid list. I can't really argue with your top choice as it seems to be without flaws. As a fan of your channel I do have a slight request. Could you try to put labels on your gameplay in the future? Not everyone can recognize fan favorites like Aleste at 15:09 or hidden gems like Lilo and Stitch at 11:06. It's a small thing that I think would go a long way. Thanks, Jason. :)
I knew the Sq was going to be ranked last lol
No you didn’t
@@proud90skid15 If you watched MJR’s review on the Sq awhile back you would’ve known too.
The Analogue Super NT has that wiggle too. Realistically its not a huge issue. But the price point makes it much more hard to swallow
i can see im not the only one who notice that..i luv my suoer nt but it wiggles.some.
MJR you are my game console and videogame spiritual guide!
3:28 Lol. "We can't do what we promised, so you guys are gonna have to pick up the slack for us"
Still love my retron 5. Haven't had any issues in over 4years. It's best to get original controllers for each console and use those
*Great video and very informative! Thank you! :)*
Wow, I had no idea the NT Mini cartridge slot was that bad! That makes me more comfortable having not ordered the Noir on the last run. I really like my Retro AVS anyway. It has a death grip on your carts, but I just put an Everdrive in and never need to pull it out anyway.
Thanks for the rank list!
It was overhauled and improved for the last revision. Mine doesn’t have these issues
Hyperkin also has a 3 in 1 adapter for playing Game Gear, SMS, etc.
Works with the retron 5 and retrofreak systems. I'm happy to finally play these games again.