The ULTIMATE Retro Gaming Experience - Analogue Nt Mini Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2017
- Luke's obsession with retro games continues! The $449 Analogue Nt Mini is, quite frankly, one of the best ways to play retro games.
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Наука
For $498 it'd better blow on the cartridges for me.
betaomega04 It should blow me for that money.
Perhaps if you're into paying for that sort of thing :-D
What are you talking about, everyone likes to get blow jobs.
For money? No thx
for that price tag i expect that thing to give me a blow job, never mind the cartridges!!!
5000 hours in engineering yeah? Well I've got 5200 hours in Garry's Mod... Beat that... ;-;
Yeah, you got so much "engineering" practise from Gmod. They should've hired you.
You're right man, they should have hired me. I'm way more qualified.
The weld tool knows it better than anyone.
I thought my 133 hours was a decent amount. but 5200 HOURS, WHAT DO YOU WITH YOUR LIFE.
I guess that answer to that would be Gmod
I could be pretty close to that with World of Tanks, i mean, ive been playing that game for 6 years now...
@Harry Welchman
Your math is indeed wrong:
let's say, normal 40-hours-a-week job, that's 2080 hours without vacations or days off.
With that same number, that would be 2 and a half years without a single day off or holiday, etc.
Ok, so "2 and a half years experience" isn't as spectacular, I admit, but in real-life work, when you have 5000+ hours into something, it's still a demonstration of a certain level of experience and dedication. Even pilots go around saying "I have 5000 hours of flight" and that's fairly impressive.
This is amazing and all. But... for that price? Sadly I don't think I'd be able to pay that much for it.
I think I could get an original console as well as a SD-card Cartridge and play roms that way, for less than getting that one.
Sure, I wouldn't get all the kinds of consoles, but if it's just for NES and SNES, I'd stick to getting the SD-card cartridge, since those consoles aren't very expensive in the end.
For the price this thing is, you could get a modded SNES and NES for the HDMI and upscaling, and still have enough money for the SD carts, and maybe a modded Genesis on the side.
Still need to mod the cable for a SNES to get the RGB, unless you buy a premodded one or a scart cable. If you have a SNES mini, you still need to mod it to enable its disabled rgb hardware. Plus again, its not terribly expansive to buy a premodded ones with RGB output rca jacks on it, which itself is an easy and minor mod.
Yes i am aware, but you need to mod the Snes Mini to actually get RGB out of it, since its disabled by default.
Isnt this only for NES and Famicom? I didnt hear the part where he said it playes SNES/Super Famicom games aswell
NES and Famicom(JP NES)*. For $450, I would have expected it to at least be able to play SNES/Super Famicom.
Phantom Hourglass, not Wind Waker
Silviu Stroe lol to this day im convinced Luke isnt a real gamer.
Ya that shit doesn't fly lol
... Our DS mics died for nothing. They've forgotten our sacrifice. :*(
Silviu Stroe I WANT THE SALVAGE ARM
3:36 Small correction, HDL is Hardware Description Language not Hardware Definition Language.
I was about to make the same comment. Glad I scrolled down.
STBtas at least there are some people that understand it XD. as an electrical engineer this comment section gives me a short circuit.
I was about to make the same comment as well...
i don't know how you know that, and i don't even care, i'm just gonna like and go on with my life..
Yeah I was gonna say something watching this last night. Definitely cool to see something I work on regularly (FPGA) get exposure to mainstream audience. Really interesting and powerful things can be done with this stuff.
RgB is enough to buy this shit, it doesn't matter if it runs crysis or not.
Aman Kr. he was talking about the color space
Amaury Ayala Its a joke.
I Am Sekou Man... u live under a rock...
Put RGB on a piece of toast and I'll buy it.
+Ben Sutherland where's razer when you need them
$449.00???
..............
Nope...
Fox Then consider the RetroUSB AVS then. It's also an NES FPGA solution but much cheaper at $199
Hey now that RetroUSB AVSlooks like cool little console. unfortunately $199 is still pushing it for me.
My maximum would be $100, flat.
The NES FPGA looks like amazing (Love the look of the bare motherboard) but it looks like bit of a pain in the ass to set up.
Great recommendations none the less.
Fox It's not that hard to setup. You just need to adjust the aspect ratio so it looks even and that's it. ^-^
$450 is a bit steep. I'll stick to my actual NES and 36 inch CRT.
$4.49 is a great pri... oh
So UNDERPOWERED
Hi Lucus! I met you at PAX. I was completely star struck when I saw you. Thanks for being such an awesome person about it! Keep up the great work I love all of the videos you guys make!
Guys, The expansion port is not for the Famicom Disk System. The FDS drive is connected to the FDS RAM adapter that plugs into the 60 pin cartridge port. The expansion port is for controllers, 3D glasses, light guns, save game memory and other similar peripherals.
Did you know the main cause of shark attacks are sharks?
I thought it was people being in water
no it's the Illuminati's fault
Alex Morgan I thought it were seals
damn I thought it was dumb people swimming in shark infested waters
+John Wick Sharks
Nope. Sorry. No machine can recreate the reason why retro games were so good.
Being young.
Rickard that's what nostalgic fucks seem to forget
Rickard Well, I'm young and I get really bored with most of today's games. Guess I'll have to borrow nostalgia from someone else then, bummer.
Eduardo, tell that to a doctor and you'll get prescribed some delicious amphetamines for the ADHD you clearly have /s
andiCNH You're quite funny eh, nice one.
andiCNH Forgot the word most, terribly sorry.
Would this allow for the light gun for Duck Hunt to work correctly on a modern tv with the HDMI output being lag free?
Small smart-ass correction: the Famicom Disk System does not connect through the Famicom Parallel port, but rather through the Famicom cartridge slot via RAM adapter.
If this isn't actually emulation, then could Nintendo sue the makers of this? Not saying I'd support them doing so, but, legally, do they have the ability?
Jabberwockxeno yeah probably could
copyrights still cover nintendo games. and their tech. in the same way books still hold copyrights hundreds of years after they were writen
Copyrgith for written word is more limited than you think it is, depending where you live of course.
No. Standard patents are lost after 30 years. Copyright shouldn't be an issue since they didn't copy the games.
Jabberwockxeno "Some of Nintendo's patents on the Famicom expired in 2003, followed in 2005 by NES-specific patents such as those covering the 10NES
lockout chip. While Nintendo still holds various related trademarks,
NES hardware clones are no longer necessarily illegal on the basis of
patent infringement." - wikipedia
Oh this looks great!... How much do they want for it?!
Would you please do a review/comparison on the zotac en10 mini pc (the ad in this video) vs msi trident 3, maybe including other options as to what you consider to be the best small form factor pc.
i must have missed something but when do you use a mic in wind waker
Retro games.. You mean retro nintendo games, I don't see any sega console slots
Or atari
5:30 - 5:55
should play atari 2600 cartridges
I've seen this thing at least 4 times already.
Not sure if this is what you meant when you meantioned the SD slot. With an SD card in you could put a cartridge in and create your own ROM of it? Not sure if I understood that correctly/
yeah buddy Miami High toque @3:30 Cloverdale represent!
I rather just make this with a rasberry pi
You don't understand...
"What a truly great, inspirational man that Steve Jobs was. " said my mate in the pub.
"What is your favourite Apple product? " he asked.
"Cider, " I replied.
The expansion port on the back isn't used for the Disk System, it's used for stuff like 3rd-party controllers and the famicom version of the Zapper.
Using this system, is it possible to get the Zapper working with the LCD?
Is that 450 Canadian Pesos or real money
I see what you did there.
AvE ?
We actually use icicles up here tyvm.
emulation for most 2d consoles is pretty much perfect. you can say what you want, but this really isnt necessary.
They are not perfect, what the fuck are you talking about?
the music sounds way too clean on emulators. it is very high pitch compared to the original console and sometimes hurts your ears depending on how early the game game came out for the system or how crappy the music was. i also think the game looks better on the original console no matter what filters you put on it in the emulator. i just bought a flash cart for my nes because of this reason, still waiting for it to arrive. flash carts are basically an emulator in terms of being able to make save states and load whatever game you want onto it but it runs on original hardware.
Incorrect, Mega Drive (Genesis in the US) is one I can immediately call from the top of my head as having faulty emulation on any attempt, both hardware and software, there's simply not enough data available on the ICs inside it, the YM2612 being the most notorious chip for being difficult to emulate correctly in order obtain correct sound output, the console also relied on interpolation to correctly display "transparent textures" simply make it too difficult, and arcade consoles like the Neo Geo are simply impossible to emulate correctly, the SNK core on MAME comes close but it still has it's faults.
Emulation may not be perfect on the Genesis/Megadrive or SNES, but come on, it's either $449 plus all the bloody cartridges you'll need to own already or buy, or well, zero dollars and any game you want.
Richard Bagg If people want perfection and no possible glitches, then money is probably not an object to them. When people want the absolute best, they are willing to drop the big bucks. (Titan X comes to mind here.)
Actually, the Famicom Expansion Port is not used for the Disk System, that is connected trough the cartridge slot. It's just a differently shapped Controller Port including some additional I.O. (ie. Sound for the Data Recorder), as the original Famicom featured hardwired controllers.
This is really cool. Gotta buy one of these. This video is great
the times when 60 FPS was amazing.
DT B you mean 60fps
no , I mean the times of the nintendo NES games that had 6 FPS like pac man and mario etc...
but those games were 60fps
Piece o' LEGO , no they didn't have the GPU to make 60 FPS.
It's okay, noone will judge you for that...
/popcorn
But the Xbone and PS4 already game at 144p 15fps, how more retro can you get?
LOL
AMD Ryzen my PS4 gets better fps than my PC. rip.
lol amd fanboy kills himself XD
AMD Ryzen fun fact: the original mario bros played at 60 fps
4k 60fps actually
Huge retro addict here, keep up the retro vids.
does duck hunt work? or a y game utilizing the zapper gun? because the CRT's used quick flashes of light to detect where the gun was aimed at..
but a raspberry pi 3 can emulate them for only $40
Them and like 20 more consoles
Ares5933 did you even watch the whole video?
did you watch the whole vid??
iVirtualPlays actually, the raspberry pi can play most psp games. Did it on retropie
but my phone can too
The best retro experience is with the original console and a crt tv
When I start my pc I get a blue screen giving me the WHEA Uncorrectable Error. I can't access anything on my pc so I can't download anything to check what the problem is. Any help please?
As an older gamer who still has his NES, SNES, Genesis, et cetera, and still plays retro games, this is the console I have been waiting for! Pick this up, go to the local game shop and go wild on their NES and SNES bin!
I wouldn't mind Luke blowing my cartridge if you catch my drift ;)
Jeowhaosgsosvaoshs
haha
....or get an emulator
had no idea there was a retro gamer at LTT. Good video, trying to decide if I want one of these or if I should stick to my PVM and modded systems
I have as retron 3 which does NES, SNES, and genesis and it's japanese counterparts, however, I also have all the original systems hooked up in my garage and play them with my friends on friday nights. so luke, your invited man! I even got world class track meet with the power pad!
$450, hell no.
Raspberry Pi + 8bitdo.
Or my phone + 8bitdo + slimport
Theres too much input lag on RasPi or phone for all those competitive NES games ... no wait...
ever heard of speedruns?
Hacked Wii, im that poor.
Haven't noticed any input lag, but i've mostly only been playing zelda, DW, and FF lately. Tried some Rtype and Gradius, but I suck at those anyway. I have noticed input lag depending on what TV I use. Some are terrible for gaming.
What really nice is setting up google drive on the phone/pi/computer and having all your saves synced.
Also have all the emu on my Wii homebrew. Wish Wii U homebrew was better.
I have looked at a Vita for emu, but apparently it really isn't much of a thing.
My vita running Retro Arch with Snes9x2010 core will like to disagree with your statement.
GEEEEZ, and here I thought that the freaking Nintendo Switch (saving money for) is expensive, dafuq.
the switch is not expensive.....
bosnia has BAM as money... it's fucking 800 with games... [please kill me]
It kind of is, honestly.
Did you sincerely think emulation on the Nintendo Switch would be as good as this hipster knockoff? Ah casual!
Not really. I just wanna experience the "Portablity", but I have the damn Gamecube... I can't use that as "Portable".
0:38 no, I'm pretty sure Luke is the most beautiful piece of hardware I've ever laid my hands on
Oh damn didn't think Luke was such a retro enthusiast! Been planning on getting a framemeister for a while, cool to see this type of stuff on LTT!
mancave lol do people still use that word
You might as well download an emulator on your PC!
Exactly! you can get a phone that can do so for about a $100
This does a lot more things than an emulator, it's not for people that just want to spend 20 minutes with a hacked rom they downloaded from the first google link they found.
This is vastly different than an emulator on a PC, though. This replicates the way the original hardware worked using non-original parts, which is actually amazing! That way, it's guaranteed to behave exactly the same as the original hardware.
Puffy > actually you are not guaranteed anything, they could have done mistakes in their hardware implementation. Assuming they did it right though, it's the closest you can currently get while not running the actual original hardware though.
With a lot of much needed modern features too, of course.
startide Of course, I was rather unclear. It does work just as well as the original hardware, ASSUMING that it's coded correctly. They do have a skilled engineer, though.
No HDMI 2.1? What if I want to play it at 8k? Or ultrawide?
Oh my gosh as a computer science student I am blown away that they did this through FGPA. unfortunately most people won't appreciate this. But thank you like, you are the only personI have seen who has reviewed this product to mention this.it really speaks of the quality of LMG
get a DELL Optiplex with a i5 2400/2500 on Ebay for $100 and throw a RX 460 for $80 and You got yourself a $180 PC with gaming capabilities that will emulate ANYTHING out there: Atari, Amiga, NES, SEGA Master system/II, Genesis, SNES, MAME, N64, PSX, PS2, Wii, Gamecube, Gameboy, Game Gear, and so on and so forth.
OctoMan PC's Plus it will play retro PC games and low spec indy games. Which probably outnumber console games by a huge margin.
@900p it will play AAA games at high no problem too :)
What part of ebay are you getting all these i5 dells for $80?
The Dell Optiplex with a i5 2400 can range from 100 to 150 USD, the RX 460 SFF goes for $75-85USD on newegg.
www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-390-Tower-i5-2400-3-1GHz-4GB-500GB-DVD-Win-7-Pro-DVD-RW-Free-Ship-/182491762683?hash=item2a7d5b4ffb:g:sL0AAOSwCU1YwDnm
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137089&cm_re=rx_460-_-14-137-089-_-Product
Enjoy
Octoman, I assume you are running Gamecube and Wii on Dolphin. Can you recommend a laptop that would work with dolphin for cheap ? Also I'd like to run linux.
Potato
Hello console
Potato apply cold water to burned area
Potato I want fries
Agumon I hope you realize that you insulted consoles as well by implying that "console" was the insult instead of "potato"...which is genius...
Hello majority of the human population of Earth.
No games today can give me that feeling I hade with the nes !! Still now when I see duck hunt and Zelda I go back in time and smile ...my friend bought the game castlevania and that looked so cool !! I miss my zapper
i see what you did there in the beginning "Thankfully my job is really cool, and that 0K" Nice one, love it :D
$450 is a joke, this should not cost more than $150.
not really, old tech is more expensive to produce these days and more expensive to maintain should it go wrong. the price is fine
Agreed. Its a reasonable price
Thankfully the RetroUSB AVS is only 180, and does basically the same thing.
Yeah, but this is not old tech. This is all new tech.
Do you have any idea what kind of Hardware that thing has built in? $450 seems absolutely reasonable for an FPGA with all that functionality. Those things usually cost $300 and upwards, and do nothing unless you know how to program them (which is very time consuming and has almost nothing to do with normal programming). And they even added all those in- and outputs to it.
I agree that it is a bit too expensive for what it DOES, but it is fairly priced for what it IS.
$450 for retro gaming??? I'll pass on that just get me another 1080 and game at 120hz 4k and if I'm bored ill download a retro emulator.
hy linus plzzz can you explain what is the use of scroll lock key on keybord?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who still uses a CRT TV for console gaming. I have all my consoles up to the Wii hooked up to a 20" CRT in my den/kids' play room and wouldn't have it any other way. I have looked at things like the NT Mini, but they're just too much right now. Besides, I find a lot of fun in modding my consoles for component output and get a nice, fuzzy nostalgic feeling when bombarded by high amounts of radiation from my old CRT.
#givetheconsoletoluke
why should buy this 450$ console, when you can play such games on a potato PC even on pentium 2 :p
yeah, it should be like 5 times cheaper at least. and that's only if playing retro games on it is convenient and you don't need to mess with emulation unlike on pc
Because your emulator with your hacked roms are not the real thing...
See this article as to why :
arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/
Because it's not a software emulation platform like RetroArch. If its performance is indeed on par with the original Analoug NT, it's what one could consider a re-implementation of the NES using modern FPGA hardware. Which in turn allows for those who seek the best modernized expereince from an old system to have cycle-accuracy, high performance, native HD output, 99% compatibility and much more.
And as Luke said, those who pay for such systems are ture purists, not the avarage consumers who could just get-by with an RPi or a smartphone running some software emulator.
+night but does it need to be so expensive? i doubt the hardware costs anything as much, these would probably sell like hot cakes at a good price
Timo > because the cost of hardware is not the sole cost, making it happen was obviously time consumming.
Also : it's a niche product... it will never sell like hot cakes, even at 150 dollars.
I’m hear because I just purchased the Noir. Now I need a new video Linus!
That Intro was catching!!
4:54 if you're a purist you'll have the original system.
Maybe you want to keep your consoles intact
why would you play 449 dollars to play retro games when you could just emulate them on pc?
same
If you have to ask that question you'd never understand the answer.
So, a non-answer then? Even if it's simply the feel of a gamepad as opposed to keyboard, you can just plug one into your PC. Unless staring at a box of Chinese plastic makes the experience for you.
WhnNinjasAttack Sweet answer
its like you didnt watch the video lol, the video iteslf gives you the answer
as a retro gamer i would LOVE to see more related videos from such a professional channel like LTT. Compared to the retro gaming channels yours is miles ahead in terms of ... anything. And it suits you well.
Can I assume that it doesn't get the zapper working with LCD/plasma screens?
I am ashamed for anyone who pays 446 dollars to play roms...
450$ ??? What a joke
30€ south korean consoles already exist, they also play megadrive cartridges.
aedelya that's emulation, this is not.
aedelya well emulation is 100% legal soooooo.
And emulating doesn't work with everything, adds lag, etc.
This is legal, the patents expired over a decade ago.
Zack in fact some of them aren't
Love the soundmixing. Nice and crisp at 10k ;)
Honestly, given the niche market and amount of hours and skill needed to develop an accurate, faithful hardware clone on an FPGA I'm not surprised by the price tag.
He s become a console peasant, we ve lost Luke guys...
Vice Presi he was a console peasant to begin with
iVirtualPlays nope I always had a pc and nothing else
Vice Presi schwanch
Liking consoles doesn't make you a peasant.
+Cairo Murphy
Exactly! Only denying that the PC is the objectively superior platform does. Liking certain consoles is absolutely fine.
Good job youtube finally 600 views 14 likes 30 comments
Aus Es Do not live.
did anyone know that the little red square in the intro fell down from above? I did not realize
1:08 did Luke just inhale a bit of helium off-cam? xD
Still a console
And
a pc is just a console thats harder to use and takes up more space
KeithShizuo and you know performs betters, has more games, and can do much, much, much, much, much more
i played a racing game on pc once. the cars went just as fast as the ps2 version. performance wasthesame
its not what you have, its ow you use it
Nice paid commercial, because it's hard to call it any sort of review.
I'm not gonna discredit your comment, but I want to know what would you have done differently for it to be called a proper review in your book. In my humble opinion, Luke delivered the facts I was curious about.
Requiem Aeternam mention that it's ridiculous for the price and that it's for a very niche market which is what they usually do (at least Linus does) but um...they got paid maybe or bad script lol
Ya, the obvious conclusion to this review should be "Uhhh really?"
Why would they have to say that, though? Because if that's your basis, then all iPhone reviews should include that statement. The console does what it advertises it does regardless of the price. It's now in your discretion, as a consumer, to think for yourselves if the product is worth it or not based on the video. That's what a review is for.
Purranormal Catatonic He obviously doesn't think it is ridiculous for the price and he is the exact target market, but it's still his honest opinion.
What would you recommend as a good entry level CRT monitor? What should I even look for in a CRT monitor?
I like the simple inclusion of the real intro into the pre-video intro with the orange square. Just don't change up the intro at all
The ultimate retro gaming experience is actually the pc this can't even play ps1 and ps2 games.
This is an ULTIMATE joke video
It's a paid promotion but Linusshill tips wont disclose it as always
I love them so much that's why I still have an NES and snes.
Also, No save states are implemented or planned due to limitations in the physical hardware.
Since the beginning I have had the problem that ALL modules are played too "fast". In other words, sound and game run faster than on the original NES. My problem is that I can't find a menu item anywhere where you could adjust it. And since almost nobody unpacks the console and plays it, I haven't received any information about the problem until now. Does anyone know the problem of the analog consoles?
Sorry für my Bad English
Does it allow the nes zapper to work on a hdtv?
so does it let you play duck hunt on things other than a CRT or nah?
Anyone know the name of the music playing at the intro?
Quite the improvement from that overview on unbox therapy, now I see where some of the price comes from.
One of the most insane features on this (at least for me) is that you can increase the sprite limit for NES games. Anyone who's ever played Mega Man or Castlevania knows that if there are too many enemies and items on screen at the same time, you encounter sprite flicker and slowdowns. By upping the limit from 8 to 16 it eliminates this and makes Mega Man run silky smooth even with shit flying all over the screen. That's crazy. It's completely optional, but it's there if you want it.
luke kevtris worked with analog and hes making adaptor boards for alot of other cart systems for the nt mini
Moving back around the back
what headset is that @ 2:29?
Fun Fact: the original Analogue NT used original hardware from a SNES inside of it
if you want see a more in depth video on this, watch my life in gaming. they provide a much more detailed look at the system and all of the settings that are within the software of the console.
I have never find a single emulator that has no input lag. Most people don't even realise there is delay between pressing a button and the reaction on the screen. This is due to the large number of layers the information needs to go through when using emulators. But it is always there and it affects negatively the gameplay. This little beauty has zero input lag.
what was the song for the intro?
architecture pc build help ? do i need more cores like amd ryzen or better be fast intel i7 7700k ?
How does the upscaling compare to the Framemeister?
I have one question, does it run at 60 fps or does it run at the original NES frame rate, 60.09?
i checked their side but i could not easly find the other supported consoles games you can run on it