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Ford Mustang Mach E Review // Could have been great!
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2021
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This is a Motormouth couple car review of the Ford Mustang Mach E electric SUV. The Ford Mustang Mach-e has an eye-catching design with sleek and muscular curves. It comes standard with LED headlights and taillights, a manual liftgate and 18” wheels. Our Premium trim test model comes with a panoramic glass roof and 19” wheels, it goes 0-60 in 4.8 seconds with the extended range battery. The Ford Mach-E is available with standard and extended range battery options with either RWD or AWD powered by one or two electric motors. All models have a magnet motor, which is located on the rear axle. The Mach-E AWD also has a secondary electric motor on the front axle to boost performance. Here is a break down of the EV range: Standard Range RWD gets 355km/230 miles of EV range and AWD gets 325 km/210 miles. Extended Range RWD, 475 km/300 miles and AWD 425 km/270 miles of range. AWD is an extra $3500 CAD/$2,700 USD and the Extended Range is $7,000 CAD/$5,000 USD. If you choose the Extended Range RWD you get an extra 120 km EV range and Extended Range AWD an extra 100 km. Is it worth the extra $7000 CAD/$5,000 USD?There is also a difference in horsepower and torque depending on whether you choose Standard or Extended range, RWD or AWD. Standard Range RWD and AWD has 266 horsepower.Extended Range RWD has 290 horsepower and AWD 346 horsepower. RWD gets 317 lb-ft of torque and AWD 428 lb-ft of torque. The Mach E GT Performance Edition gets the most power with 480 horsepower and 634 lb-ft of torque. That’s more torque than the Porsche Taycan Turbo at 626 lb-ft of torque. The Mach-E offers front seats that deliver comfort and support along with plenty of legroom. The seats are an ActiveX faux leather material and the steering wheel is wrapped in a soft vinyl. Leather is not available on any trims. Three adults can fit comfortably in the rear seat; it has a flat floor, which offers more space for the middle passenger. There is 29.7 cubic feet behind the rear seat and almost 60 cubic feet of overall cargo space. There is also a front trunk (frunk), which adds another 4.7 cubic feet of space.Ford has used mostly soft materials with very little hard plastic except on the doors and at the bottom of the centre console. I like the use of cloth on the dashboard and doors, it elevates this interior adding elegance to the cabin. The Mach-E offers plenty of tech with a standard 15.5” touchscreen which is intuitive to use, a 10.2” digital driver display and wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The best value trim in Canada goes to the Mach-E Premium for $59,495 CAD/$47,600 USD. Some standard features include, a hands-free foot activated power tailgate, a glass roof, heated front seats, driver seat memory, heated steering wheel, a B&O 10-speaker sound system which sounds excellent, 19” wheels, Ford co-pilot 360, Active Park Assist, and a 360 degree camera with split view. If you want AWD, add $3500 CAD/$2,700 USD and the Extended Range $7,000 CAD/$5,000 USD. There are 3 drive modes available Whisper, Engage and Unbridled. Whisper is comfort mode, great for coasting in the city and has some propulsion sound piped in through the audio system. Engage mode is more fun but subtle, the goldilocks of the 3 modes in my opinion. Unbridled is the most exhilarating mode. Ford says, this mode pays homage to the legacy of the Mustang sound but in a unique package designed for an EV. You can turn off the propulsion sound that is piped in if you don’t like it.
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Zack took a BIG risk here on the business side of things giving us his honest opinion. I hope Ford looks at this and goes “we have some improvements to make” not “let’s ban/punish motormouth for not sticking to the script”. A lot of respect for taking the risk and staying true to your viewer base, we appreciate it💪🏼
The air vent thing was a bit ridiculous BUT it’s an issue which is exacerbated by all the other annoyances of the car. Door handles that make no sense, suspension, cost, non functional entry exit, expected easy access functions like a trunk button being buried in the infotainment etc.
My only regret with this channel is not finding it sooner!
you haven't drove it so how is this guy correct? he is a a negative Nancy
ANd he has no idea what he is talking about. Like the “regular door handles comment”. EV companies dont use common car handles because of aerodynamics. A car handle can cause a range loss penalty into the 10’s of miles.
He didn't take a risk, trust me half of Ford or more probably bitched about those door handles and are still bitching about it, I am in Michigan, I know my people, trust me a lot of people at Ford definitely didn't want that crap. This is a company that makes trucks for very conservative buyers that don't like change, very few people at Ford were asking for these door handles. I despise the Model 3 and Ys garage door handles, especially how they reverse open and once I mention it to others and they try it too they hate them.
Trunk access is on my key, a foot wave, a phone tap, and a button on trunk lid. I am happy with this.
110%, definitely appreciate the honesty. Kudos to them, I'll definitely come back to check this channel for any car I'm seriously thinking about.
I've seen most if not all the Mach-E RUclips reviews and not a single one has touched on some of the points that Zach raised in this review, such as the lack of a physical hatch release button.Well done Zack for telling it as you see it.
@@andreaspencer9813 Car and Driver EV Car of the Year so clearly it's a great first effort. You guys picked up on things no one else had. Well done.
@@marcelstanford430 Great first effort is not worth $70K.....or even close.......When I can still buy gas for Half the price.................Paul
you are totally right - i have watched several Mach-E reviews a few months ago, and though, wow, Zach and Andrea unfortunately received the car late, and it will be more of the same. boy was I wrong, this is why I keep coming back and watching the two of them, such a unique, well thought out opinions of the car. LOVE IT!!
That’s definitely another “copy Tesla” thing. Not sure how it works on the Mach-E but on a Model 3 in Park, the screen shows a huge picture of your car with frunk, trunk, and charge port opening “buttons”. It works well because the screen is so consistent and always on. [If I had to dig through touchscreen menus I would hate it. As it is on the Tesla, it’s not much harder than hunting for a button under the dash next to the wheel.]
@@juanlin555 The vast majority of the time I'm in my trunk without the car on. This car has to be on for the truck button on the touchscreen to work. That' means actually getting in and putting your foot on the brake to turn it on I'm assuming.
What a pain in the ___that would be.
Picked up my MME three weeks ago. The driving experience is fantastic, constantly taking the long way home. The Mustang name was a good marketing move. I have talked to more people because they see the pony and ask what it is. No issues with doors or the hatch.
Thanks for sharing, glad you haven't had any issues with your Mache-E. Enjoy!
Love the door handles.
Yup. Owner since Feb. Hatch was well known prior to purchase. No problems with doors, air vents, etc. Phone as a key? Problem! (SW update coming fall). People are very interested in the car and ask questions with smiles on their faces because they like what they see! Yes, expensive. Others driven and considered: Model Y, Volvo XC40RC, Kia Niro, and many PHEVs. To get what we wanted in each model they all ended up in the 50s-60s USD. EQS is what we really want to drive next (for the wife). When my wife says the ME is fun to drive, then I know it is REALLY fun to drive ;)
@@dh216832 Thanks for sharing! I'm with you guys, so FUN to drive! Enjoy your Mach-E
To be fair you won't know if the door handles are an issue until you are in an ice storm and your car is covered in a sheet of ice. 🤷♂️
We just got our new '21 Mach-e an absolutely love it. Traded a '17 BMW that was giving us problems. Home run Ford! Luxurious & sporty! Go see it. Amazing engineering.
I love Andrea's eyes when Zach goes on his rant right before night life HAHA!
You guys make a dynamic duo car reviewers! KEEP IT UP!
I am 100% with Zack about the vents blowing direct on me.
It is one of the most annoying thing when you drive.
As a regular driver and quite a fan driving it (4000+ miles), I agree with Zack on this one. By the way: all the other quirks: tail gate etc. have been fixed in OTA updates.
That's funny cause I'm a fan of vents blowing directly onto me 😅
The Bolt doesn’t do this it has enough movement to offset the flow..
Every gripe Zack said I was nodding my head... "YES!"
This was the funniest episode yet. The couple bickering was hilarious. So relatable. I really enjoy watching the two of you. 🤣😂🤩
Thanks so much!
Love the rant! Andrea, good work balancing the perspective. All together you are terrific, thank you both. Definitely waiting for Mach-E v2.0 :)
Zack wants a regular door handle that works. Boy your very demanding! 😆
Holly Molly did Zack switch to decaf that morning?!? But I must say I really appreciate your comments and I am surprised a lot of these "deficiencies" have not been reported by others.
Watched a lot of Mach E vids as a potential buyer and have never seen that door issue before. They got theirs late. Probably an already beat up press car. Still, glad to see that this can be an issue for some people at some point.
@@locsmiths Tesla had horrible door handles issues due to an over-design just asking for trouble. I agree with Zack 100% on this.
@@benhaze1010 I agree with him too, that his test car had door issues. It was obvious given the video evidence. But as a potential EV buyer, I have watched dozens of Mach E videos from reviewers and owner's since release and this has not been an issue. I browse several forums and this has not been an issue. There are reported issue with the Mach E such as the phone as a key functionality and some weird shit with the charge port cap, but not the doors. His experience is his experience, but is not representative of the experience reported by many others. His other gripes are personal to him and even differed from his partner so I don't care about those.
I like your honest reviews! Kept it real
I'm with Zack all the way! When it comes to car usability, especially an "everyday" car(as opposed to a SuperCar), form needs to follow function. The most touched and often used features should be fool proof and tactile, not on a touch screen or some tech for tech's sake door opening system!
I respectfully disagree that vehicle price is the main factor keeping more EVs from being sold. Most people I have talked to have a problem with range anxiety due to the sparse number of fast charging stations. If the vehicle is only used puttering around town, that is fine, but on road trips it will not work. In our area of the United States there is no good network of fast chargers. Even the Tesla stations are too spread out. If on a vacation, I do not want to spend my time waiting in line for a charger or waiting hours at a slow charger to 'fill the tank'.
Until the battery technology and charger infrastructure are improved, a RAV-4 Prime seems to be the best of both worlds.
I really enjoy your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Fair enough, thanks for sharing your point of view. I hear from a lot of followers daily that they just don't have the budget for an EV especially if there isn't a rebate available. We have the Chevy Bolt next week and it's priced around $40,000 CAD, more affordable for people. Looking forward to driving that one.
I think Zack is one of the most objective experts when it comes to cars so when he has something to rant about, I listen. Good review. Thank you both.
Thanks for watching!
I agree with zack. I don't want my car to annoy me. I'm not a Mach E customer for sure.
Edit: and that includes the tires screeching when cornering 18:03.
There is no money in keeping the price down and the more bells and whistles that can go wrong the more likely you will trade in and buy the next model. Awesome review love the dichotomy between you two and the fact your obviously in love.
Check out the Sandy Munro teardown on Munro Live.
Excellent structurally but a disaster in the cooling HVAC system which is critical in EV's. Maintenance and service calls guaranteed
Zack needs to convert to decafe coffee. The car looks great and appears to have everything I would want. But w/o driving it who knows. Unlikely I will ever own one. Ill be well into my 70's by time I need another car so don't know if an EV is in my future.
ok Andrea and that pic with the Mustang. ❤️ Supermodel💯
I don’t blame you on the price, way too expensive! I think Ford in general has been pricing their popular vehicles too high which scares off potential consumers. I know the domestic auto manufacturers often offer more discounts but it is still scary to go to their website and see the MSRPs for their Explorer, Bronco Sport, F150, Expedition, etc. I feel over the last 2 years prices have gotten out of control!
Yes, too expensive. I am sure Ford will come out with less expensive options in the future. It's only a matter of time.
Thanks for the honest review Zack and Andrea. I would never buy one.
Zack: "Expensive! Let's leave it there." Now tell us how you really feel about the Mustang Mach E. lol
he was acting like a baby
@@kmoney7582 Pretty much
Zach not holding back, love it! Thanks for being candid and your honest review.
I agree with Zack about the door handles and the HUGE screen. Why?!? The fact that the back door and rear hatch didn't work on a new car is not a good sign. Thanks for the review & rant.
lol! Thanks for watching!
Good to know I'm not the only husband who is relentlessly mocked by their wife. Stay strong Zack, we're not the crazy people, it's THEM. ( At least that's what the voice in my head tells me. )
Be careful Robert or we’ll tell your wife.
Zach acted like a child here I rode in 1 and it felt amazing
@@kmoney7582 Really fun to drive!
Hyundai and Kia are blowing every car company away! Not even close.
Yeah, the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are way more appealing than this thing. Plus they have much better fast chargers, a better warranty, and Kia/Hyundai materials and build quality blow Ford out of the water.
“…potholes in downtown Montreal!” 😂😂😂 The best potholes. Ever. 😂😂😂
They are epic, could swallow a Mustang!
lol!
@@Motormouth... They could!! ... lots of missing Mustangs. You just have to find which hole 😂😂
@@ericcharbonneau7842 I wonder where all the billions of dollars they get from Ottawa go every year?
Some our roads are horrible, one of the few things I dislike about Montreal. Like riding a bumpy roller coaster argh!
Zach is 100% right. Ford should have put proven components that work right from day one and stop with the iffy gimmicks. The doors and trunk need to be able to open each time with no issues, otherwise it's very annoying to deal with. On another review, I saw that the charging port door keeps opening by itself, which again is very frustrating. And that the car only came with one key fob because you are supposed to use your phone as the other. Problem is the app does not work consistently. Ford Motor Company has been around for 118 years and they still can't get it right. Seriously?
Great review! We eagerly awaited this one- you didn’t disappoint! Disclaimer we just put our deposit down on the. Mach-E, just fell in love with the drive. With price… in the US we have the $7500 and in looking at this, the Volvo, and hybrid plug-ins (Audi, BMW, Lexus) this came in a bit cheaper for the Premium trim. Plus we thought if your going EV just do it already and don’t bother with a plug-in hybrid. Side note: when we test drove we found we accidentally put the child lock on the back doors, easy to do as it’s next to the side window adjustments. Also the kick open on the trunk is a setting in the info screen. Not saying this was the reason for the problems, but maybe? Thanks for your candid take!
Thanks for sharing, glad you liked the review! Congratulations on your new Mach-E!
Aaron, I agree with you, this was an excellent and fair review of the Mach-E. I've gone a step further and I actually purchased the Mach-E two months ago and I have not regretted my decision at all so far. Like Andrea, I don't mind the design of the vents. I've not had any trouble with the rear door handles operating properly when pushing the button. I live in Tennessee, so like you, I get the $7500 tax credit. I live in a mild climate state and park the Mach-E in my garage so I don't anticipate issues with getting into my car in cold weather. The kick open on the truck can sometimes get on my nerves but it operates most of the time. I don't know about you, but I get stopped at least daily from strangers walking up to me asking about this car. When I purchased the Mach-E, I drove 6 hours back home to get the full experience of what it feels like to travel long distances in an EV. I stopped to fast charge twice for 25 minutes and once for 15 minutes and got home with no problem. EVs are not for everyone, including my wife, but I am satisfied so far with the Mach-E and would recommend it to anyone considering an EV. I believe Ford's decision to integrate some hardware buttons along with the tablet display will help with the transition from a gas powered vehicle familiarity to an EV's tech driven environment. It was a deciding factor for me.
Love this review! I like it when Zack rants. I wouldn't want to live with a vehicle that doesn't listen to my inputs. I still like the Mach-e a lot, however it is expensive and it should have the government breaks as well. Its good to hear about all these little nuances that plague an otherwise fantastic product. Honesty is honesty and consumers need to hear hear some of the not so good.
Yes, we definitely had some issues with this press vehicle, hopefully Ford will work out the kinks and maybe bring down the price of it. It is a beautiful looking EUV.
Zack is grumpy today 🤣
It's those air vents.
You go Zack! This is the kind of info and critique we want to know about a car. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this review of the Mach E.
This is a great review. It’s not unprofessional to call it as you see it. Both of your opinions are very valuable, I believe. Don’t hold back. Great job
We appreciate that! - Andrea
They are right-on about price. Give me a long-range, 30k, electric car that looks decent and I’ll buy one tomorrow. Don’t need screens and bs all over the place. Apple CarPlay or Android auto, am/fm radio and I’m happy. Are you listening manufacturer’s? As always a great video. You two are fantastic!
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it.
I don't care what Ford says, that E-vehicle is not a Mustang, it is an SUV. A Mustang is a sport car. Zach made some strong arguments against the "me, too" design.
Good morning Andrea & Zack ! Thanks for the research you have done and to have answered my question during the Questions segment regarding the vehicle entry system.
I wasn’t expecting to see Zack “all fired up” about the vehicle’s lack of door handles (lol on Zack ranting) but I think it’s certainly something to be concerned about in Canada and as Zack mentioned, it doesn’t make sense, not in cold climate anyway.
As usual, great job on the vehicle review and have a wonderful weekend you guys 👍👍.
Zack … you ok now bud 😆😆😆.
@@andreaspencer9813 I bet he does 😆.
Air suspension might work great ....while it still works. But, everyone knows that nobody can make air suspension that lasts the life of the vehicle and longevity is everything for me . I buy my vehicles for the long haul . The less expensive repairs I have the better.
One of the funniest videos yet. Lots of ranting haha
Thanks for watching!
for the first time in my life I can say I want a ford
You 2 have the best reviews, and even if I have zero interest in the car, I will watch. Thanks for the your real honest reviews that I don't get anywhere else. Ford really missed the mark on this one
Thank you!! These EV's are too damned expensive. Period! Would I love to drive an EV? Of course, but I'm not going to drop the kind of cash necessary to acquire one. The Mustang is a decent effort on Ford's part but I don't like the hood (disproportionately long), the skinny tires, the push button door handles or the huge infotainment screen. Thanks for your review candor, that's what I'm looking for in a review.
Great, thank you!
I personally would not accept an infotainment screen any larger than what's on My CX30..........Or one that requires You to lift Your arm off the Arm rest..........Try to don that going thru potholes........Like where I live.....Paul
Model 3/y my friend
I bought a Mach-E AWD 4X. I have a 240V Grizzl-E charger I paid $430 USD and $360 to have a 50 AMP dedicated circuit installed to my carport. Charges from 0-100% in 13 hours. Costs me $5 to fill the battery at home. Costs $18 to charge to 80% with Electrify America using DCFC while traveling.
I really appreciate (love) him giving a candid overview of vehicles. Not everything has to be rosy all the time. You tell it how you see it and ppl can decide if it makes sense for them. Good stuff guys!
I love that my bmw i3s has a key to get into the car if the 12 volt battery dies unlike the mach e🤣
Dealerships to Ford: EV has a very little maintenance, and fewer parts to go wrong.
Ford to its dealers: don’t worry, I’ve got you (just came from Sandy Munro’s latest video) 🤣
Love these reviews! Love how candid and riled up Zack can get and love how calm, cool, collected and unruffled Andrea is!
I’ve test driven this EV and personally decided to pass on it. Totally agree about the unsettled floaty suspension. I really wanted to like this Mach-E... really wanted to but Ford shows it’s true colours through poor quality, quickly ramping up the price through add-ons and no heat pump!!! No heat pump?!?!?! All Kia/Hyundai EV’s have heat pumps!
This review only confirmed my already made decision to not buy one.
Keep up the great work you two!
This video aged well… still brilliant! Best line? … “you are ‘mocking’ me!” Mocking or… ‘Mach-ing’. Great video to see again, especially as one of my neighbours purchased a base model (same colour). It has been two years since this, I’m still not so impressed… not even used ones (well under $30k CAD now). Cheers.
Great as usual guys!!!
Thank you very much!
EV's are too expensive right now, except the CHEVY BOLT! That's why I bought a 2022 bolt LT1 with a couple of options for $32,400. I've had it for a month now and I'm averaging 4.2 KW per mile in my daily driving which includes highway and freeway at 70 mph. Super impressed with this range and the ride quality and features for price. Plus, there's a history with this car since 2017 and I feel it's going to be very reliable based on everything I've read and reviews I've seen. Yes they had an issue with battery fires on a small percentage of previous models, but they've learned their lessons and I'm extremely confident that that is sorted out completely. I've put a thousand miles on mine at this point and I couldn't be happier. Plus since I live in Washington state my electricity rates are super low so to drive that thousand miles it's cost me less than $30 in electricity. I got my credit to get my level 2 charger installed. That's a big bonus in my opinion for incentive to buy the Bolt. In a performance, features, and price comparison I think it's very difficult to beat what the bolt offers. Looks are very personal. I don't think it's the best looking electric car out there, but it definitely has its own character and I've got many compliments on it. I really think if you currently have two cars or you're thinking of getting a second car and your other car is an internal combustion car, getting electric car as your second car is definitely the way to go.
How about making use of an already "electric" iconic name as Thunderbird?
I can't see Mustang here. The American V8 muscle car concept is contrary to what electric transportation wants to achieve.
Keep up the fine work guys.
Thunderbird! Perfect name for this vehicle IMO
I completely agree with the coffee rant. Give us real buttons and switches. Give us regular door handles. Leave vehicle settings to the MIDI, and leave audio/infotainment separate from vehicle functionality.
I like this review as it represents views of two different people! Kudos to you guys as always! Keep the videos coming!!
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it.
One precision about government rebates: the non GT Mach-E is eligible for the $8k Quebec rebate because the base price is under the maximum allowable threshold. You can see it on the Ford pricing web tool. Ford had to revise the base option content to qualify for the Quebec rebate otherwise it would have been a complete sales flop in the biggest EV market in Canada.
@Hugh MacIsaac LOL. It does miss options that are standard on $20k Korean cars for our market.
Andrea. I am so sorry. I have to agree 100% with Zack. Although to exterior design is OK, the interior and especially the dash is a completely amateur effort. I think they were trying to make it a Fordla.
Cosmetically the car is beautiful but on the technical side Ford has a lot of work to do. Maybe they'll work it out in about 4-6 years. Thanks for an informative and entertaining review!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
I love the way she calmly shuts him down.
As usual a great vehicle review from Zack & Andrea. I love it when Zack is in "rant mode" - it reminds me of.. ME! :)
Great honest review. I like the looks of the vehicle. Like that they used the mustang name. I like the idea of electric ⚡️ but the cost is insane. Also I don’t like the idea of getting locked out of the vehicle - not saying it’s going to happen but they need to consider this. Cheers!
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
@@andreaspencer9813 Getting locked out of your car, reminds me of the time the 12V battery died on my son's BMW. It had to be hauled to the dealer's to charge it. I was not impressed, I was glad to hear your defense of common sense in automobile design.
@@GenealogistBuchanan Yes, I was a little surprised when the door wouldn't open. We had a BMW 7 series that had electrical issues, it just wouldn't start. Used to drive me crazy, it didn't last long, we sold it. lol!
Lots of mistakes in this video. Contrary to what was stated early in the video, the Model Y, which the Mach-E competes with, doesn't have air suspension. There's also no longer a standard range RWD model Y available as claimed at 15:30. Simply going to their order page would have shown that.
RWD cars aren't an issue in colder climates. AWD may have better re-sale value, but they also cost more to buy / lease. A good set of winter tires for snow/ice will keep the car planted in slippery conditions. Speaking from experience, having owned two RWD vehicles in cold climates. Winter tires don't necessarily add to TCO since you're sharing miles between two sets of tires, and each set should last longer. The e-tron and Mach-E are the only two cars to offer a RWD variant. The Mach-E is the only model to offer a standard range battery. The e-tron and Mach-E can both be configured for much cheaper than a model Y.
The bumper to bumper warranty of the Mach-E is 3 years / 36k miles, the powertrain and safety restraint warranty is 5 years / 60k miles, and the battery warranty is 8 years / 100k miles.
Expensive... I mean... yes, but you're not giving any context on the price. These aren't entry level vehicles. However, versus pure gas cars, fueling and maintenance savings will be substantial over the life of the car. Typically it costs about 1/3rd the price to fuel with electricity at home instead of filling up with gas. So if you typically spend $150 on gas per month, expect your fueling bill to drop by $100 per month. Monthly car payment goes up, monthly cost of fuel goes down. Charging at fast chargers is maybe slightly cheaper than gas. However, you also get the benefit of time and hassle saved by never needing to go to the gas station. You plug in at home and start every day with a full charge. Unlike a gas car, you can actually park in your garage at night and pre-heat the car using energy from the plug in the morning. A gas car has to be parked outside, requires loads of gas to heat up, and do you really want to spend your morning scraping ice off the car?
PHEVs are much closer in terms of fuel and maintenance savings and convenience benefits, but only if they're plugged in every night.. They're also currently cheaper to buy, so I'd definitely still recommend PHEVs over BEVs today. That said, you're not simply buying an electric crossover for $50k (CAD); you're buying one with solid ride quality, fairly premium interior, and fast acceleration.
As to why EVs aren't selling as well as gas cars in the US... a big part of the problem is supply limitations of the batteries. Tesla's constantly sold out. Ford and VW just started mass production. The Bolt EUV is a solid choice... it's super cheap and gets the same benefits as any other BEV. The only downside is that the car doesn't work great for long road trips. Customers could use some of the savings on the car to rent a fuel efficient car for road trips, and then they don't have to worry about long charging stops. An option I think too few people are willing to consider.
Hi, it's Andrea. Thanks for sharing your point of view and for pointing out there is no Model Y RWD option anymore. I used my notes from the last time I was on the site and it wasn't too long ago, amazing how fast things change. Next time I will visit the site again before our review. I'm disappointed to hear there is no RWD option anymore, I really liked the price point of that model.
I never mentioned the Model Y, I said Tesla, and the other models have air suspension
While rwd is fine in winter for enthusiasts and people who are somewhat enthusiastic about driving, for vast majority of average drivers it’s simply a no go. When I think of all of my friends/coworkers/family I can’t think of anyone’s spouse who would welcome driving a rwd car in winter unless no other option. It’s doable, but why? This is backed up by these options having mostly disappeared from the Canadian market other than to satisfy a price point and quality for the rebates.
Another great review. Like most folks, I start the video and immediately scroll down to the comments. Got to agree with Zach about the door handles and the center screen, and he makes an excellent point that if Ford had removed these expensive gadgets, they could have got the price of the Mach-e down to VW ID.4 levels. The current price of the Mach-e puts it right at the same price as a Telsa Model Y (even with the $7500 Federal Tax Credit). Sorry Ford, but you can't compete with the Model Y.
Love your review. I appreciate the truth and you guys gave it. Big fan.
Thank you! 🙏
I soooo appreciate the honesty. This way Ford can fix the issue and I won't spend all my cash and then all my time hating Ford. Take the criticism and do better.
Great job bringing real world practicality to this vehicle. I may be confused but it seems as if Zach was not a big fan :). I have actually been watching this vehicle for quite some time and, as a Ford driver, I was really hopeful this was going to be the EV for me. So far there are too many issues for me to be able to dive in. First off this really is not an SUV but a station wagon. That ground clearance is terribly too small. The frunk only opening by pulling the handle twice (who thought that was intuitive), no power frunk open/close, no ventilated seats, no ability to shade the pano glass in blazing heat, the fuel door dents the body if you are not careful and the part about the jumping through front end when battery dies are all things I just don’t accept in this price point.
Well done!!!!! Most honest review of this thing yet. Ford are you listening to Zach? The name is wrong. Should have called it Thunderbird EV IMO.
Yes, Ford has some kinks to work out.
I agree with Zach!!!! Weird door opener .. WHY! Huge screen.. personally BMW does it right .. small .. clear and doesn’t bump your knee… love your channel!
Thanks glad you like it.
Love watching you both ...great video
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Beware of newer "Hot" models. With no support for replacement parts if anything goes wrong (like a collision) you could be waiting months for parts to repair the car
Tesla is horrible to deal with for replacement parts in collisions and you have to go to a "Tesla Approved" body shop for repairs.
I'm with Zach. Car manufacturers should listen to what people want and not what the engineers and the marketing department think is good for the buyers. After all people outside of the car companies buy their product in tens or hundreds of thousands of units. I think it's a big middle finger to the buyers. Car companies are like: thanks for buying our vehicles and giving your money but we'll still do the design and engineering the way we want it.
I just found your channel on RUclips and I like it. The two of you freely give your opinions, even when counter to each other, and that makes it interesting, lending to a full picture. I value truth and facts in addition to some emotion and color thrown in for good measure. You guys do that. Now, this Mach E Mustang. I'm a Ford fan and have been for decades. I really like the fact Ford is now moving very assertively into the future with their full array of products. North American leader for sure. This Mach E was engineered to be sporty, not boring. It seems to be the right size, not too small, not too big , with adequate head room and back seat room. I would side with Andrea in terms of liking a sporty, taut, suspension, but not too bouncy. I drive a Fiat 500 X and the ride is just about right, not as jiggly as a Mini Cooper but responsive. The fact you can dial up the sport mode you want with the Mach E is cool. Btw, I think they made a mistake calling it a Mustang, that's their "other" car, and they're different, as they should be. Mustang purists are not pleased. Just Mach E would have been fine. Mustangs have always been two door coupes. The range on this Mach E is great. People want range of over 200 miles and everything electric is leaning that way, even the trucks. I agree with Zack regarding the door buttons. Give me good handles every time. Back trunk space a bit limited? Well, that's why the back seat has more room, I guess. The styling is nice. Zack is right about the small info screen above the steering wheel. I like a good size speedometer and tachometer there, right in front of me, as on my Fiat. The large touch screen in the middle looks unappealing but it's practical and useful, as in the Teslas. Speaking of Teslas, I know the guys that buy them like the really "cool" and futuristic features they can brag about, and to many of these guys, price isn't too much of a factor. Looks like Ford is trying to appeal to this crowd with the Mach E, as opposed to what we see with the much less expensive Chevy Bolt, geared to the more frugal and practical among us. I haven't driven the Mach E yet but really want to. If I buy one, it will probably be when I can find one slightly used and much less expensive. I'm also looking forward to the release of their all electric F 150 based on the Rivian platform. Electric is the future but I wonder about battery life and battery replacement costs. Love your videos. Keep up the banter!
andrea having to reel zack in and keep things on track, lmao! it's nice to see two DIFFERENT opinions on the same car! gives you real information about the pros and cons.
You two are great. Love your channel!
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I have no interest in this car, but watched it for the rant lol 😂
100% agree with Zack about air blowing directly on me, hate it. I just want to feel the right temperature, I don't want air blowing on me while I drive, or any other time. If you find it annoying you find it annoying, and it's enough for me to not buy a car because of that. I would also dread this car in the winter, not way you're not going to have some frustrating mornings if you live in areas where winter is WINTER like most areas in Canada.
"You're Mach-ing me!"
Intentional pun?
I like the difference and "picking " on each other. It def shows they have different taste and style and views, and now get to see other views instead of a one way Bias review
Absolutely! Just because one may not like a vehicle, it doesn't mean it's not a good EUV or that Ford's first try an EV isn't good. There are definitely some kinks to work out and the pricing is high but in line with the Model Y.
Great review!!!!! Hope you guys can get your hands on a Kia EV6 soon😀
Great review of the Mach E Andrea and Zack! Might have to test drive one someday.
Zack seem to like the Nissan Leaf.
Also, maybe rants should be a separate segment in the video where either of you (andrea or zack) could rant about a car
@motormouth
This is my favorite version of Zach. No excuses, no bs. He's absolutely right about each issue he raised, especially poor design choices being dictated (likely) by the idiots in marketing. I wanted to really like this vehicle, and I live in a warm climate so some of the issues raised won't be an issue due to geography, but the Mach E is disappointing.
Hey guys, as usual, your reports are the best on RUclips !!! About the car, for me this Mustang is a scam. Salut from sunny Paris (25°).
I owned electric for about 4 years (Leaf then Soul EV) and couldn't live the plug-in lifestyle, for example, on a simple trip Toronto/London and back. Plus the cars are just two small for a family with teenagers. Heading to cottage country better pack light and add an hour each way. When you can get a Highlander sized vehicle for under $50K CDN then I'll go back.
Early models of the all-electric 2021 Mustang Mach-E have a battery issue that may leave owners struggling to start their vehicles despite its being fully charged, according to a technical service bulletin that Ford sent to federal regulators. ... The issue affects vehicles built on or before Feb. 3, Ford said.
So far this Mustang Mach-E has been to the dealership for service to fix issues that the owners have found. Now the Ford dealer has told the owner that some of the problems are now “unfixable.”
The Details
Vehicles recalled:
Roof: 13,544 Mustang Mach-E EVs built between Feb. 24, 2020, and July 18, 2021.
Windshield: 17,692 Ford Mustang Mach-E EVs built between Feb. 24, 2020, and July 18, 2021.
The problem: The panoramic glass roof panel and/or windshield may not have been properly installed, risking leaking and even detachment.
The fix: Dealerships will apply additional urethane adhesive, then reinstall the roof panel or windshield. The repair will be done free of charge.
Apr 9, 2021
Rant is what we want. True unbiased feedback is much appreciated. Thank you Zack!
I like the way they describe cars telling it like they see it without being opinionated.
"I definitely respect your point of view"!!! Love it. Excellent guys! Thanks from Toronto.
On my test drive I had the same concern as Zack on the instrument cluster visibility. There’s no steering wheel position where I can see the speed without tilting my head. There’s also no HUD.
I totally agree with Zack disagreements regarding doors, screen etc.
While Zack rants Andrea keeps smiling 😁way to go Andrea 🤣😂👍🏾
Zack's ranting is absolutely right. Ford had the courage to make a traditional looking F-150 lightning, but they just had to put electronic gizmos on here to woo those Tesla fanatics. I think Ford should grow a pair and just go more traditional coz that is the 90% of the market that is still driving ICE vehicles because they are USED TO THE MECHANICAL STUFF. But I know why they are doing all that. To try to sell these things at average 60k. 60k!!!!! Coz people who like fancy shiny things are willing to dish it out. This is where all the margin is, so you can't blame them.
First-time viewer, loving the dynamic! :)
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I liked Zack's rant 😁, not because i hate this car. I came to check positive review about this car but Zack rant is totally justified. Thats why i keep watching your content from last 6 years. You guys are honest. Great content.
Zack, you're on point, big screen with bigger fonts, how about improved and smooth integration into the dash that connects to the drivers screen. I hear you Zach 👂
the truck is going to be great too! I like it
Watching this two years later Andrea was shook to the core in this review. Zack went for blood! 😂
Sehr Lustig!!! You guys are too funny, Great Video, awesome content, love it!
Thank you so much! 👌
Zack hits all the points (especially door handle design) correctly, and I totally agree with Zack.
I'm glad Zack brought up some of the pains that a user would endure....hopefully they can make further improvement to it.
I am sure Ford will be working on these issues.
I totally agree with Zack about the cold air blowing directly on me. I prefer the A/C to be unnoticed and just make the cabin comfortable. And, blowing cold air directly on me is only acceptable on initial cool down when first driving away with a hot cabin.
I go with the guy, I dont need big screen and door buttons. I need an easy lift and a reliable car.
I agree with Zach price is a huge issue. I know that I didn't even consider an EV when I went vehicle shopping last year. Get a fully loaded gas vehicle or a base model electric for the same price? Also electricity prices here seem to constantly be going up (at least in Ontario) so I think when we finally do end up in a place where electric vehicles are more common that the price to operate them will end up nearly the same as gas.
Hi there, it's Andrea. Next week we have the Chevy Bolt, a lot less expensive than this. I look forward to seeing how different it is from this Mach-E especially the suspension.
Spot on warts & all. Thank you for such a frank real world review. Keep up the great work. It is appreciated 👍
You 2 are really gelling doing these reviews ... found myself smiling a few times during the review. Well done guys!
And good on you for pointing out the negatives.
Thank you, glad you liked it!