Harley Davidson Glide Off: Electra Glide vs. Road Glide | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2017
- How does having a fork-mounted fairing or a frame-mounted fairing affect the dynamics of a motorcycle? Does having the weight of the fairing on the fork make it floppy at low speeds? Do fork-mounted fairings interact with prevailing wind or turbulence coming off of vehicles? How noticeable is the improved wind protection on the frame-mounted fairing - particularly during cold-weather riding?
We test a 2017 Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Ultra Classic and a Road Glide Ultra to find out.
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Thanks guys. A comparison I get asked about every day. It was interesting to hear your take on it.
What's your take Matt?
The should have compared the Road Glide Ultra to the Ultra Limited. Now that's apples to apples
I had a batwing on my old Superglide, but I like the frame mounted fairing on my RGU. Keeps the wind buffeting down
Ur the man!
I really liked the way you guys provided a very thorough summary of the bikes without getting into all the technical aspects that others do. Nicely done guys.
Chose a 2019 Road Glide Ultra. Fairing creates a significantly more protected pocket and is more stable in turbulent situations ie. passing semi trucks. Aesthetically, I prefer the aggressive, menacing shark nose which I think matches it's ability to eat the road. Both are awesome open road touring machines. Can't go wrong with either.
Both beautiful motorcycles. More partial to the Road Glide myself.
I got the 108th roadglide love it
I have a 2019 road Glide Ultra. Love it. No complaints.
I've been looking for this video that shows the difference. Great post.
This video is what I have needed. Thanks.
Great video. I have the 2016 Road Glide , Riden both. .
im surprised the liquid cooling only got a brief mention. The hp gain isnt really the big deal with the liquid cooled heads. its all about not having to deal with overheating in hot weather.
Do R/C! good information
M8 doesn’t get so hot like the twin cam did.😎
This video was about the differences between the two fairings for the most part. They both chose the batwing over the frame mounted fairing. I agree with their assessment.
I rode through Utah in 95 degree heat this summer on my 2013 Streetglide, im runing Modil 1 20w50 V Twin fully synthetic and lower fairings, i just kept moving to keep air flow and i was fine. The bike never acted strange or ran bad at all, The next day i was 12,000 feet above sea level in Colorado and still running like a top. I've had good luck with all different brands but Harley has been a great riding expierience for me. Like anything, check your fluid levels and tire pressure, change the oils and understand your bike. Stuff i read online makes me wonder who the heck is typing.
@@nobodysreview6137 you said it in your comment. You had to keep moving to keep air flowing. Sometimes people don't have an option such as in stop and go traffic. In those cases overheating can and will happen.
Great video very informative
Great vid. If someone else has pointed this out, please disregard my following comments.
I think the main cost difference come from the fact that the Electra Glide in your demo is a Classic and Road Glide is a Limited. I think if you were to price an Electa Ultra Limited, you would find that the prices are pretty much the same. The main mechanical difference being in the way the engine is cooled - with the Ultras (both models) having two small radiators in the lower fairings. There's also some other minor things like the rack on the Tour pak, etc.
All of this said, I have read that H-D will stop production of the Ultra CLASSICS and sell only Ultra Limiteds in both the Road Glide and Ultra Glide.
I have owned a 2017 Electra Glide Ultra Limited for 1.5 weeks and have 1500 miles on it. Your comments about the Daymaker headlights on the Electa is spot on. The only negative comment I have is that I wish they had put LEDs on ALL lights, and not just the headlights.
Again, nice video.
It doesn’t matter as long as you enjoy the ride... 114SGS owner and love it. I like the instrument cluster and radio arrangement of the SGS.
My 2000 Roadglide with S&S 111 is pure enjoyment!!! Handles the twisties with ease pure torque from start to finish LOVE IT!!!
I ride the Ultra Limited but could be happy with either one no doubt. I love the classic look of the Ultra Limited with the passing lights and fender bumpers.
Great review! I have the Road Glide Ultra, and I prefer that particular feel. 🤗. Go figure!
I have owned both I like the ultra.and daymaker all day long. The light that thing puts out is incredible
At 1:42 you say "this guy" with the frame mounted fairing... pointing to the EG. Seems you meant "fork mounted."
A couple of things I enjoy about the batwing, are since it's fork mounted, the bars almost feel like there's a steering stabilizer attached to them. It also seems to smooth out the ride in the hands by absorbing additional energy from bumpy roads.
One thing I haven't gotten used to on the shark nose, is where the bike is going to right itself in the apex when throwing it over from side to side in the twisties. The added weight, up high and out front, seems to act like a pendulum; something I've never experienced on an Electra Glide.
i've owned both, now riding a 2017 road glide. what a machine. wish i'd purchased one years ago. but i guess that comes with age. the lowers were my biggest concern, thought i would hate them because of heat but not the case. they're a blessing for the cold though. only negative is that they are bug magnets and make oil filter removal quite the challenge. definitely need the funnel tray. they have shrunk a bit from years past. installed tall boy seat. at 6'2" 230. was a game changer. the new suspension and handling is unbelievable s well.did i mention my wife loves it. that says it all.
OK right at the beginning the guy on the left points to the electra glide with the fork mounted fairing and says it is a frame mounted fairing and vice versa. So I know these two guys are real experts. I've ridden the Road Glide. They're phenomenal! You could go forever.
In the 1980's I owned 2 "Tour Glides " the predecessor to the RG . They were fabulous machines which we rode cross country several times. I have also owned 3 "Electra Glides " over the years & like you , find little to chose between them. My main concern is that a frame mount fairing should help you maintain control in the event of say a DEER collision [which has happened to me twice ] I got a buck right in the fairing on a frame mount & was able to bring the bike to a safe stop. Love them both & currently ride a Road King ! Go figure!
Love my street glide and plan on trying a road glide this summer.
I have a 2017 Road Glide and I definitely prefer it over the Electra Glide. I traded in my Victory Vision which I must admit, was more comfortable for me (6'2"). The Road Glide was the closest motorcycle I could find that would compare to the Victory. I tried all the big cruisers and Road Glide was it. Great video and thanks for putting this together.
I’ve owned both, the batwing and the sharknose. Looks-wise, I favor the sharknose. If you like the older traditional/heritage look, I would understand you liking the batwing better. Plus I think the reach to the radio may be closer. I have found that the sharknose transmits less turbulence and vibration to the handlebars, something that is most apparent when following a semi, especially at 70mph or more.
I can’t comment on the headlight difference, but almost every road glide owner I’ve talked to had to adjust the lights upward, as they seem to be set low from the factory. I have a ‘15 CVO RoadGlide now, and the light are good at night.
I think the Venting is better with the sharknose, but you’ll likely want to put the proper height recurve windscreen on it and get rid of the factory screen.
And as far as freaking out because the fairing doesn’t swivel with the handlebars, you’ll never notice it once you get used to it.
Great video I thinking about getting one.
I have rented or borrowed both the Road Glide and Electra Glides in the past. I held off buying any HD touring bike, but I eventually purchased a Road Glide Ultra, based on those previous riding experiences...
The main difference I noted is that the Road Glide Ultra feels a little heavier in slower parking lot type riding. That nose gets top heavy quickly, and it can get dicey if you are not paying attention. But on the open road, the Road Glide is like riding in an air bubble as compared to the Eltra Glide. That fixed fairing cancels out a lot of the air buffeting issues as compared to the bat wing.
Lastly, I always feel the bat wing is too, "in your face," as I feel more wide open viewing with the fixed fairing.
Ace's in their places. All big bikes are iffy in tight low speed parking lots and off road dirt trails. But as a slab eater. They rock and if thats where you are planning on riding you will be served well by either bike.
After watching this video and a few others like it, I rode to Daytona on my ‘17 Road King. Then, I test rode the ‘19 Road Glide Ultra and the ‘19 Ultra Limited, among other brands like Honda, Yamaha and Indian. I settled on the Limited. I like the riding position. I like the feel of having the controls closer to me. The only thing I don’t like is the open space between the upper fairing and lower fairing which allows cold air through. The thing is, compared to my old Road King, it still keeps much more air off of me than what I’m use to.
Test drove both the RGU and the UL - went with the UL. I like the look of the RGU but preferred the handlebar position of the UL. I seemed to be able to hear the stereo better at freeway speed with the UL - probably because the speakers are closer to you. Touchscreen was also a few inches closer. My preferences - YMMV and happy riding! Both are great bikes.
Both are beautiful bikes and I have owned both types. I prefer the Road Glide over the Limited. Thanks for your insight and video.
On my '14 Street Glide Special, set up with lowers and the adjustable fairing vents, just like the Ultra. True you do get a lot of air coming up over the lowers work the vents turned the way shown on the video but if you turn them as far open as possible you WILL NOT feel the air flow mentioned. Makes it a lot warmer while cold weather riding.
I now have a '15 Road Glide Special. The extra storage, in the fairing is nice, but I miss my Street Glide.
that is how I did with my Street Glide, but my 2016 RG Special is my second one and my first choice on road bikes.
For a bigger guy, the Road Glide feels less jammed up. You eluded to the more forward positioning of the EG and that’s the biggest factor when you’re 6’4”. I have an 08 RG and like the stability and comfort vs the EG. Both beautiful bikes... I’m partial to the red.
Thanks Guys! Gotta love the EGC! I know I do😊
Very interesting review. Just came back from Sturgis on my 2010 SG, My bike has 35k and runs like a champ. Seriously considering a new bike, saw a grip of RG's. RG owners swear by the fixed fairing.
Great break down guys, thanks
I put a truck lite LED headlight in my 2016 street glide, led headlights should come standard on all motorcycles, they're incredible.
Thanks for the video, when I get around to buying a bagger this'll come in handy.
Take one out for a ride.... you'll be surprised. To me your fighting the Batwing in the wind more then the Sharknose (Road Glide). I had a weird side to side rocking motion at 70 mph with the Batwing, where the Road Glide didn't. I eventually bought a 16 Road Glide Ultra and I couldn't be happier. In the end you'll know what bike you want.
“I like blue.” Wow. That’s an in-depth analysis. And yes, it’s so important to listen to the radio while riding my motorcycle.
I actually prefer the road glide, I like the more open space between me and the fairing, I test drove a CVO ultra And although it's a fantastic bike in its own I felt compacted I guess. But it is all personal preference I prefer the frame mounted fairing the the distance between me and the fairing.
I own a '07 Ultra and spent almost 20 years on my Tour Glide. I agree with you, I feel more closed in on my Ultra. The Tour Glide just felt a little roomier. It was a great bike, but so is my Ultra Classic. I think for an extra 2K for the Road Glide, I too would save the money and purchase the Ultra.
This was a really good talk. I have a garage full of Harley's, BMW's, and a Ducati. I really really really loved my Road Glide, until she got stolen(that sucked), however my Street Glide is an absolute pleasure to ride. My Street Glide truly is my most favorite bike. So Street or Electra is the right money. It really is.
The Road Glide is more practical for long distance and touring, and actually overall when it comes to the fairing, yet the Electra Glide just looks bad ass in comparison!
I agree that the fork-mounted fairings get a little "wobbly" in high-wind situations. They can catch the wind kind of like a sail on a boat. The add-on wind deflectors increase that feeling. That's why I took mine off! Strong cross-winds can provide some serious cause for "pucker-power" if you catch my drift.
I've owned both, and I prefer the Electra Glide Ultra Classic. Liked you comment of "felt like I was steering it with a tiller", I felt the same.
I have had a couple road glides and the biggest thing I seen is the wind buffering in the bars can be a workout with the Street Glide / Electra Glide vs the fixed fairing of the Road Glide. As for the bars differences, most people change the bars anyways. As for the headlight, you can get daymaker knock offs on ebay for like $100-$200.
Can't you put the bulb from from the other bike into the day makers shroud? Thanks
And the saga continues. .....it's a matter of preference.
I've rode both, and I also prefer the Electra glide
What wind suit is he wearing and is it insulated
They are both excellent choices imo
I ride a 2016 ultra limited. I had planned on looking at the 2020 RG special tomorrow. The UL was my first Harley. I’m curious if I’ll like the RG special tomorrow. I ride the UL most of the time without the trunk except on the cross country trips. Not sure how it will
Go tomorrow.
Not sure what stereo those bikes have but on my 2015 Road Glide Special, with a full face helmet, I can't hear the radio at all.
i am on my second road glide , i used to own a BMW K1200 GT and the system is the same as the road glide ,the bat wing is a pain to the road glide , just picked up my 2017 road glide hands down a better ride
I'm x bmw too
So you are saying the frame mounted shark nose fairing does a better job at keeping the wind from directly hitting the knees than the fork mounted bat wing (even with wind deflectors)? I used to do a lot of cooler weather riding on my Electra Glide so this was a problem for me. . .not an issue when riding a 'Wing or Kawi Voyager
I have an 05 Suzuki c90 boulevard I don't have a fairing on it but I do have a windshield and I can tell the difference with the frame mounting windshield when I take it off my big question is when you're doing the corners what the frame mounted fairing out of the headlights give you around the corner
Great video! Thank you!!! I'm buying an electra in Pennsylvania and riding it home to Anza California in a few months after summer cools off a bit. This is a bucket list checked off the list. A Harley Davidson, 2300+ miles, my wife on back, across the most beautiful country on earth!! DONE✔✔✔✔ Next trip.........STURGIS!!!!
Bought a 2015 Roadglide brand new, traded it in on a 2017 Streetglide, personally I like the street better
Rode both. The Electra glide somehow feels lighter and more manageable. The road glide seems like you can't see a damn thing over it. Hitting pot holes squirrels and the occasional group of nuns.
Is the wheelbase the same?
I love my Electra glide ultra classic!!! But do like the look of the road glide
I love the look of the road glide. Problem is I ride a bike daily, all weather, day and night. I want that light pointing where I'm going, just seems safer.
Totally excellent point that should have been mentioned earlier. If you ride even a little at night on twisty mountain roads, that would eliminate the road glide for me. Great to have a headlight shooting off the edge of the corner.. (sarcasm). In fact, I wish someone would incorporate a headlight for motorcycles that actually over-corrects into the direction of turn for night-time illumination. (you turn the bars 20 degrees, and the headlight would turn 40 degrees, on some kind of cam mechanism....); you know, actually turning the headlight further up into the turn so you can see what's coming! Also take into account the lean angle- as you lean into the turn (at night) the headlight automatically aims to a lower point on the road. Or am I the only one that has ridden through the twisties on a cold dark rainy night? (north Georgia). Would have been outstanding to actually see further through the turns!!!
I think a rider's size would also have a lot to do with the comfort level. I'm tall, at 6'5" and 300+ pounds. I ride an Electra Glide Ultra and I feel the handle bars are too low for me. I like the idea of taller handle bars like my first Harley, a Heritage Softtail. My next buy will probably be the Road Glide model. If the bars feel too far back, I can always roll them forward a little.
You are absolutely right about size being a variable. I've rented both bikes (and own a Road King) and I would have to add the "Tall Boy" seat to both... and I'm 6'2" and 250. I've heard the ideal height for the stock RG is 5'8" to 5'11".
burchmd you can buy half apes or baby apes. That'll fix you up. I've seen a few MC fellas with full apes on an ultra
I just put 14"s on my street glide. Best thing I've added to the bike. I'm 6ft2 my arms are st shoulder height and it is so much more comfortable. Hands are just above fairing and I can actually use my stock mirrors now lol
I don't know if you'll see this but I watched to learn about the different fairings. I was eagerly anticipating you turning the handlebars back and forth to demonstrate then comment and you never did! Do you know of a video that does that? Thank you.
Can someone tell me the difference between the ultra limited and ultra classic ❓❓❓
Screw that. Spend the extra money and get the Ultra Limited. Nice glossy painted trim pieces, heated grips, 114 instead of 107, liquid cooled heads, and (probably) more.
I have a Limited. I love my bike.
Thanks guys. You helped me to decide on a big decision I was debating if liquid cool or classic, Electra Glide or Road Glide and I do like a classic look
Plus I am a small guy only 5.5" tall so I road tested both Bikes and the Road Glide felted a bit to massive for my sature plus I am not a big fan of the fearing
Thanks again
Love my 2011 road glide , change out stock windshield to a 12” klock werks changed the ride i can actually hear stereo
Did you guys take the time to figure out the gas mileage these two bikes got? I'm curious to know which one got better fuel economy.
I don't know about the electra, but my 2017 RGU with the 107 engine gets between 42 and 43 mpg with a combination of highway and municipal roads.
I was wondering the same thing. Since they're doo much alike what's the difference?
Jacob James i get 40.5 mpg riding 2up in the mountains. Haven’t really checked on a ling interstate run. 90% of my riding is backroads in the mountains. I live in WV.
I have owned both only a quart different road glide ad
Did this Road Glide have the Daymaker headlights? I thought the headlights in the two were generally the same for lowbeams.
Nyte Bytez no
Tom Cool confused me at 1:43 when he referred to the Electra Glide as the one having the frame mounted fairing. Kinda puts all his comments in question. Which bike you talking about now??
I ride long distances a lot, I prefer the wind protection of the Electra Glide over the Road glide. I'm 6' & when cruising at highway speeds the bike tracks perfect & the wind blows over my head (Klock 6" windshield) The Batwing additionally protects my hands from the wind when riding in 40 & below weather.
I feel must say... I have a 1996 Ultra glide and my fiances dad has a 2009 Road Glide. I much prefer the Road Glide, to me the handle bars are easier to move considering they don't have all that weight attached to them and the Road Glide feels roomier because the fairing is more stretched out and I like that too.
I used to ride and race the ZX-14, I prefer the Road Glide because like the ZX the fairing is mounted to the frame and you have less handle bar shake at the higher winds & speeds.
Just traded my 07Road King and 2013 ZX14R for a 2019 Road Glide Ultra. The new 2019 Ultra should be here Wednesday My HD dealer is delivering the new bike and picking up my 2 trade ins, no charge, but I still go into garage and start them Love them both but the Ultra will serve me better turning 64 this year.
So...I'm a big/tall guy I guess I'd prefer the road glide over the electraglide.
E. Simons I do As well and I just did 2 back to back rides on both bikes
6'2" and I find the ergos of the electraglide very comfortable. In fact I've changed nothing, stock bars, everything just fit me right out of the box. The seat to pegs, etc, are the same, the distance of the fairing to the rider is really the only difference, and since these bikes don't have lower fairings to encroach upon your knees, that's not a concern.
Any noticeable difference at night with the headlights during a turn? Does the fork mount seem to lead better or is the frame mount fine?
Did you ever even ride a motorcycle? The only time the forks turn noticeably in a turn is at very slow speeds. How much does your car fender rotate during a turn?
Deciding on whether to choose an Ultra Limited or a Road Glide Limited would be a nice position to be in. Guess I will keep riding my Softail.
I'd prefer the Road glide. like the shark like fairing better. the Electra glides fairing just looks bleh.
I'm not really into bumig harleys, but if I was gonna take a "bigger" one, I'd take the road glide bagger. way better looking without all those sofas on the back of the bike
the addition of the liquid cooling also factors into the extra $2000, it's not just the fairing that is different when you consider that. A better direct comparison would have been road glide special vs street glide special in my opinion. Both are great bikes though!
Had a 2014 Ultra Limited, traded it in for a 2017 Road Glide Ultra. I personally find the Road Glide to be a superior bike at a lower cost.
The road glide is more expensive not less lol.
i've ridden many many bikes. when i had a road glide i was amazed at how many "bikers" asked me how i liked the fairing. it doesn't move? i would tell them, "oh why didn't you say you didn't know how to ride. you're supposed to look where you're going. not what the fairing is doing" still dont' get why you guys can't get around it. oh wait because it doesn't look cool right?
The headlights don't turn with the bars though. You can't follow the backsides of the beauties heading into the bar without moving the whole bike!
I've put over 20k on an Ultra Limited in the last two years. Many highway miles. Never really felt the wind buffering the fairing that I've heard so much about. and some of those miles allegedly without touching the handlebar.
I've ridden and owned several bikes and prefer Harley Davidson it's all I will own in the future and I've owned 3 BMW'S too.
If you have never ridden a full fairing bike. I would be almost ashamed. My God, I started riding in 1963. Before I turned 30, I had ridden bikes with fairings. Anyone with a lot of miles under them is going to be more at home with what they are used to. If you have ever raced, you will know that every road racing bike has the fairing mounted to the frame for the two reasons. First, it isn't going to affect the center of gravity. Secondly, wind gusts will not input to the bars. Granted, you will still feel them when it is frame mounted but when something has to move the whole bike plus the weight of the rider, it will take a lot more to affect it. You were just out of your element. The first time I rode Pikes Peak, I hadn't taken into effect what the lack of O2 was going to do to my blood flow. Basically, my arms became useless above 12,000 feet and it became a real thrill. You were tired and doing things you hadn't put into your muscle memory. What I am saying is it was you, not the bike. Neither one handles well. In my 70 years though, I have never met anyone who actually liked a frame mounted fairing when they first rode but they always like them after they have gotten used to them.
If you’re a tall guy like me, the RG is probably more comfortable as I don’t feel like I’m right on top of the fairing. I did ride the EGU with 14” apes and have to say that made all the difference in arm comfort. My 08 RG always seemed a little too heavy. Sold it recently and now seriously considering the EGU with apes.
once you buy one you'll never want to switch. (Mine is the fork mounted Electra Glide Ultra Classic)
You should have had the Ultra Limited for the fair comparison, same price and both twin-cooled. I have the Road Glide and my buddy has the Ultra Limited, personally at 6'2" and 220 I feel the RG fits a bigger rider better.
Definitely Road Glide. I've got Daymaker headlights on my Road Glide.
I was going to trade in my 2014 Streetglide special for a Roadglide special, now I think I'll rent a Roadglide for a weekend and decide.
Thanks guys.
Great idea. I have a 2016 RG Special; I like the lighter weight of the Specail. The RG Ultra rides nicer over the rough roads. I went to Sturgis and it was all day comfortable 600-700 miles per day. Had a 2014 Street Glide; they are cool but open road at 75-85 the Road Glide just does a better job of managing the wind.
Great review! But fix that noise reduction on Evans cuz it's annoying.
So which bike is the most comfortable ie.the least fatiguing, tiring on long rides 300 to.500 + miles? Pleas tell me. Why can't u put daymaker lights on road glide?
my 2016 road glide special comes with daymakers from the factory.
i trid both in 2019 s i liked the eltra glide best
I love my electa glide
If you ever see me rollin around on my bike listening to talk radio, please run me off the road and make sure I'm dead! Thanks in advance.
😂👍
I love Road Glide.
I had the same feeling after had those 2 bikes, Street glide more conected with the bike, feels more compact, looks road glide👍, riding Street glide 👍
Like anything else in life it comes down to personal preference.
That's why "HARLEY" makes so many variations. Road glide more💲more lights Electra glide classic cool looks from the front.
Just food for thought. I rode 4 separate 2017 Electra Glides yesterday.....every one of them felt a little bit different.
I did the Iron Butt run on an 07 Nightster - 4 shore an amazing thing, & yeah: Fuck n No I'd do it again 🤜🤛
Iv'e have owned both electra glide & a S E road glide and could tell you a ounce worthy of difference between the two
I ride a 2010 Road Glide custom my wife traded her 2011 Street Glide for a 2017 Road Glide S, no comparison
The Rushmore platform with the Milwaukee 8 motor amazing super smooth big torque she just go on and took off
The RoadGlide Ultra is a little top heavy to me my Road Glide custom your down in it easy to handle. Do not ride a 2017
Unless you plan to ride it home they are awesome.Ride safe
i have the last of the 2016 twinn cam pumped the liquid cooled 110 a heel of alot more power than the 103
Different strokes, I hate the riding position of the batwing because it always seems my knees are like 3" from my hands and that is too cramped for me, I will take a road glide 10 out of 10 times.
I can't believe you guys missed this... seriously, the 2k price difference is NOT in the fairing, it's because the road glide is twin cooled and the and the ultra isn't... both bikes cost almost the same (within a couple hundred bucks) when equipped the same way ... You guys did not compare apples to apples with only the fairing being different! How do you miss this???
Leon Smitherman what does "twin cooled" means?
Or how did they miss you could buy a Honda Valkyrie that will be running long after these old Harley junkers die on the road....LOL
Both the Ultra and the RG Ultra are "twin cooled" so they are apples to apples in that regard.
The blue bike is an Ultra Classic & does not have the liquid cooled heads. The Road Glide Ultra does. The Ultra Limited is what they should've used as a comparison the the RGU.
It might as well be metric then , Harleys never were and shouldnt be liquid cooled.