The best option should be a factory setting of being able to do that very thing. As the vehicle owner, I think it should be up to them to decide how they want the vehicle to perform. I know, we apparently aren't worthy of doing that in the opinion of the powers to be but should.
Naturally, the overreaching government and authoritarian EPA are to blame - the EPA offers incentives to automakers on their fuel economy targets if vehicles are equipped with auto start-stop, but only if the customer can't disable it. (You can also thank the FEDGOV for intrusively noisy pedestrian-alert speakers ruining the silence of electric cars.) The claimed fuel economy savings of auto start-stop is about 4-5 MPG, but it's probably much less, and the wear and tear is far greater because of the loss of oil pressure during off-cycles prior to restart, and the amount of fuel used when starting the engine is greater than when running the engine. The ideal choice would be a device that can connect to the OBD-II port that automatically issues a CAN signal to shut off auto start/stop after about 30 seconds of the vehicle running, and ideally with a pass-through that allows another OBD-II device to connect after it. Also, complain to your congressperson and tell them you will VOTE THEM OUT for shortening the life and hampering your enjoyment of your vehicle unless they do something to rein in the EPA. Then actually FOLLOW THROUGH - most incumbent politicians have a history of corruption that helps keep them there.
@@Acoustic_Theory If this is being done because the EPA is offering incentives, that tells me it's not a regulatory requirement. It's a financial incentive to the manufacturer. That's a simple fix. Simply refuse to buy them. That will outweigh the government overreach, quick, fast, and in a hurry.
I own a 2020 Ford Ranger. To disable the Auto Start Stop function all I need to do is plug a small LED night light (110 volt) into the 110-volt outlet on the rear of the center console. Note that the Auto Start Stop function is not enabled IF an electrical accessory is turned on or plugged in. This is mentioned on page 145 in 2020 Ford Ranger Owner's Manual. This should work for other Ford SUV and pickup trucks as well. This guy is trying to make money like the salespersons promoting cookware on TV. He always praises all products from different companies despites of what. What the hell?
No, he's not even using an affiliate link, so how does he make money? Your LED night light idea could work, but it'll kill your battery if you park at an airport for vacation and forget to remove it since it's always draining current.
Side note, I recently did some genealogy research into my family and one of the early settlers into Jamestown was Hugh Gwynn (1600). He is my 8th Great Grandfather. The Gwynn surname was spelled many different ways including Wynn but they were all from the same family. So long story short, you could be my cousin.
Good presentation, and I'm glad you didn't promote some of the bad solutions that are common on the internet. I suggest everyone who wants to defeat the system use one of the products you showed, which will keep all the other systems working as designed. Messing with modern vehicles electronics is a good way to screw up multiple systems. They are much too complex for the average owner to mess with. Yes, those solutions are expensive for what they are, but all the other cheap fixes are no where near as good.
Surely you still need the engine running for aircon to turn the compressor? Here in Europe the manufacturers love these Start-Stop devices - I always disable it on my friend's Land Rover - we have an extra issue. We have a lot of turbo diesels and if you want a turbo to live a long time you should let it idle for 30 seconds at start-up and before shutting off the engine (called simmering) to ensure cooler oil reaches the turbo bearings. Stop-Starts don't always alklow this leading to premature turbo failure.
We call that coking the turbo here. The oil cokes up, or cooks, in the turbo from the heat. Same issue on the Eco-boost gas engines. The air conditioning does not have a compressor running, but while turned off it cuts the fan in half and still pushes cooler air. In the summer, it sucks.
The one that you plug in behind the switch is just a latching toggle-switch type electronic gate that does the same thing as shorting the wires. If you’re comfortable with your abilities you can just put a toggle switch in its place. I’d probably put an appropriately sized fuse in line too just to be safe.
Well I must be weird because I have an F150 2015 Platinum that stickered over $50 ,000.and it has every conceivable option on it except start/stop.I go to Florida for the winter and some of their traffic lights are literally 5 minutes long.Thats a lot of wasted gas.My last F150 came with it and I got used to it for that reason..I would gladly trade for s/s and get rid of the lane change alert that grabs your steering wheel unless you stay perfectly between the hi way lines.Or the second option I detest is adaptive speed control [cruise].I just want to drive my truck the way I have been doing for yrs. and not how some engineer decided how you will pilot your vehicle .I dont understand why people are waiting for self driving cars.We wont be in control but just get in and sit and be driven as if we re on a streetcar...
@@WorkshopAddict You are right.However Im a Michigan boy and also a retired carpenter.I dont pay attention too much to temperatures around me.When Im in Fl.for the winter my windows are usually down and my sirius satis turned up to Motown music.Fl.does do something to the body tho cause my snowbird family Fl.residents cant function without something blowing on them.I tell them the state made them weak..lol
Thanks for the video!! START/STOP does NOT save gas (much)!! It takes MORE fuel to start a gasoline engine than to run it for a short while. Way back when I was a teen, it took 2 minutes of fuel to restart a car. With better efficiency engines, I'm sure that time has shortened, BUT it ain't ZERO! So, there is no benefit. The engine DOES turn off in the heat, so no AC in SE La is NOT a smart move. Also, about the "powers that be"- The car is YOURS. YOU bought it. You can do what you want with it, as long as it is legal. Are you responsible for making sure that what you do will not harm the car? Yes! So, do your homework first. Starting and restarting your car puts a lot of wear and tear on your engine. This causes the need for expensive engine repair. So much for the "powers that be". 😊
I just watched a video and guy just discnnected his trailer lights and signals plug, said it worked fine if hauling a trailer make sure you remember to plug back in???? ever heard of that sound too simple
I just installed an Auto Stop Eliminator on my 2020 F150. I was easy to fit in the dash. The same company also sells an OBD version but I figured I would never want to not have it on plus I use my OBD connector every once in a while for other stuff.
I came across an option while perusing the 2022 order form and found an option to have the start/stop shut off at the factory. People looking to order a new vehicle from Ford might want to ask about it. It might be a fleet option, I couldn't tell from the form I saw.
Hey there, I loved your thorough approach here. I agree on staying away from the more invasive methods. I personally am leaning toward the Start stop eliminator that wires into the switch circuit. Thanks for your video....
I bought a 2023 f150 and three things are driving me nuts. 1. This issue. 2. I wanted to remember that I had it in Eco because I just had to run to Aldi's... And I can change things if I need to haul something right? 3. I have everything Android paid for and when I hit the talk button I just want Android to hear me. I currently have to hit the mic button on screen of Android Auto. I had a much better experience in my 2016 Hyundai. Unreal. I think a test drive these days should also include a test drive of the freaking utilities.
I have a 2019 f150 alt and I didnt have to buy anything to disable the auto start stop function. There is a wire you disconnect on the driver sie by the harness panel and you just pull that wire out and u dont have to worry about the start stop function. The guy that showed how to do this is on utube and his young son did it. The problem is that its been so long that I cant remember the link. You can search for the F150 Ford truck that explains how to do it. Its easy and simple and it doesnt interfere with anything nad I have been using it for a couple of years with no problems of any kind...look for it on utube its the father telling his boy to disconnect the wire. sorry i cant remember the link shoulldnt be too hard to find... and it doesnt cost anything..
Nice! When I was car shopping I eliminated all with that annoying start/stop "feature". Now I have options. Anyone know why Chevy back-up lights (white) come one when parked /off ? I always think they are backing up in parking lots. Wtf?
That feature drives me crazy too. Always see those back up lights on, and think it’s someone backing up, but it’s just them getting out of the car or similar. It can cause an accident in a parking lot 🤦♂️
Just disconnect the black plug on the trailer tow module down by the brake pedal and it deactivates the auto stop start just plug it back in when you decide to tow.
Also disables park assist (throws a slip differential error if you hit the button for park assist). That being said, who actually uses park assist?!?!?
Takes me longer to pick my nose than to press the little disable button and now I don't worry about forgetting to reconnect the frkn trailer lights and getting pulled over for no lights after having a couple of refreshments at the boat dock. I know people hate nannys but seriously, every hack I've researched for disabling this idiotic but simple-to-press-a-disable button system has drawbacks. No thanks. I'm just hoping in 10 years this dumb "fuel saving" measure is history anyway. Until then, pressing the button is as habitual for me as putting the vehicle in gear....
I have a way that costs ZERO money. Pop the hood and locate the negative battery terminal. Unplug the tiny wire harness plug. This is the battery state of charge sensor. That's it, you have now disabled start/stop. It will not throw an engine code or affect anything else. The bonus is that it disables Sync 3 anti playlist scrolling. Now my passenger can scroll music with out it locking.
You have done exactly what the FORScan module does to remove the Start Stop and that does effect your charging system. It does work, but long term there are some downsides.
@@jeffmayberry4064 That “charging sensor” acts like a trickle charger and sets parameters to when the battery gets charged by the alternator. Supposed to start charging when the battery level drops below xx and stops the charging when the battery level reaches yy. These were never in “older”vehicles as stated in this video. Older cars kept constantly charging the battery. This system is “supposed” to extend the battery life by not keeping the battery at constant charge of 100%. Instead it keeps it about 80% fully charged and may kick on when it drops below say 70%. I’ve heard this system has actually prevented batteries from functioning long term because they never get to be fully charged, like they used to in them older vehicles 🤔🤫?? That being said, I do believe it’s there to keep the power somewhat consistent so all those chips in your new vehicle don’t get any surges or drops to prevent hiccup in the software or hardware.. much like home computers usually are plugged into power surge protectors?? Just my two cents.
@@SA-hk8xj I've had mine unhooked for nearly a year now. Doesn't seem to affect anything. I'll report back if I see any ill effects. Pretty sure it just monitors the battery voltage, so the system knows when to restart the engine after extended periods of "auto stop".
@@jeffmayberry4064 I've had mine unhooked for about two years. No effect other than eliminating the annoyance of start/stop. If my truck explodes one day or suddenly catches fire I'll let you know. But so far it seems like the simplest solution to a maddening problem added by Ford to placate Big Nanny and bug its customers.
I took me about three weeks to learn to do it as a conditioned reflex. And since my grandson is a superhero fan, he happily reminds me to push the "Avengers Button!"
Come on man....$100? You can get the same thing on ebay for $8. I would say just lower your prices to something reasonable and people will choose the easy and safe route that yours provides. My 2 cents.
@@WorkshopAddict yea i thought that too the dealer checked it and said everything’s normal he said he could go in and figure out why it wont stop but i said not to i dont like it saves the starter from wearing out faster too
I'll just push the free button! Well I just got an F150 that has AS/S, maybe it will start to annoy me eventually.,if it does I will buy this ...But the as/s is really the dumbest thing ever installed on a vehicle. Sure...everyone wants their vehicle to conk out at a busy intersection!
@WorkshopAddict it definitely worked on my 2018.The auto apart stop symbol still shows itself on dash when brake is applied but the truck does not shut off
Our memorizer version for the F-150 does allow you to re-enable and disable the system with the button at any time. We do not have any print specifying otherwise.
Might want to check out this vid before spending time or money. ruclips.net/video/RJEzjws0k-g/видео.html. Takes maybe 10 seconds and it’s absolutely free, You will have to reconnect the plug to get the trailer lights to work when and if you hitch up a trailer and then disconnect the plug again to disable the auto stop when you unhitch. But that beats the shit out of hitting that stupid button every time you get in the vehicle.or spending money on a gadget.
The recommended solution is cost prohibitive...way over priced. FORSCAN option is best...obviously. Warranty is never an option anyway since nothing they cover is ever anything that breaks, and when it does it's 2 days after the warranty expired. Besides, you going to let a dealership work on your vehicle? Good luck with that and you better have deeeeeeep pockets.
Our Start Stop Eliminator goes into a ultra low power "Sleep" mode when the vehicle is turned off and only wakes up when the other electronic modules wake up. Power draw will never be an issue, even when the vehicle is stored for long periods of time.
First, coaching people on how to communicate, awesome! People hide behind their technology and have forgotten how to respectfully communicate. Wonderful that you realize this is controversial and so you set up the conversation. Two, thank you for the information. I’m not sure I could purchase any new car, just too many nannies for me so it is good to see there are safe work a rounds that frankly are good for many many reasons but not for everyone. Love your channel has climbed to the top of my list😎 S
I just unplug the black wire under the dash that plugs into white box. The one that controls my trailer lights. Whenever I hook up my trailer I plug it back in.
This feature is bad for the battery, bad for the starter and bad for the engine ($$$$). And it's utterly unnerving. I hate it. It's a battery eater and the proof of it is that start/stop is automatically put to off when outside temperature is 4 celsius or less. Finally it does no good for environment as replacing these parts has its ecological print, far exceeding the negligible fuel economy. (Except for certain exceptionnal situations like a big trafic jam or waiting in line at the car wash.) I think it will be withdrawn some day, or at least disabling it become permanent until you put it on again.
Brett Mullis 1 second ago I agree. Just remember to plug back before visiting the dealership. Also if towing a trailer or camper. If not the lights on the back will not work. I forgot one time ...
be aware it will affect other systems. My '17 F150 XLT 2.7 V6 ... loses the trailer brake lights. sigh. Higher end/features ... I know the tailgate release and a touch door handle on the Platinum ... those features are also lost. It seems like Ford designed this to be a real bugger to debug. pony-up $100 for the plug-in deal ... or get to re-wiring.
@@WorkshopAddict Yep, don't buy that garbage at all, never had a problem turning a key, and when I start my truck I want it running, not shutting off every time you stop, that's a horrible waste of energy and fuel and hard on the engine...regardless what people think & say now, time will prove my point when all that crap fails. Yeah you can turn it off every time you start your car but I shouldn't have to, it shouldn't be a standard feature, if you want to shell out extra money for that junk then fine, but don't force it upon everyone because someone at the engineering office thought it sounded cool.
@@wildbill23c It's going to be standard on every new vehicle, so unless you only want to purchase a n older, used vehicle in the future, you won't have a choice.
@@unitedgray Exactly what I have and what I'll keep, older vehicles without all that garbage. There's nothing new out there that I would ever want in the first place.
@@wildbill23c ikr, older cars are so much better and cheaper to repair and take less time to repair. I hope they still keep making the necessary parts!
Call me cheap but $100 is a bit expensive for this hardware. I went with the free option of unplugging the black connecter (bottom one of 3) on the box just under the steering wheel. The only downside of this is that it removes the power to the tow lights, but for a guy like me who might tow something once every 2 years, I can just plug it back in for the trip.
On my 2018 F150 I just unplugged the wire to my negative battery post. Open the hood and find the battery. On the negative battery post are two tiny wires one red and one purple with a single plug that plugs into a sealed electrical component that is mounted on the wires attaching to the negative battery post. If it takes more than a minute from the time you pull the hood release, your doing something wrong.
Stop voting for obtuse self serving scandalous minded legislators that pressure or incentivize auto manufacturers and over reach their bureaucracy on issues that aren't as important or what is really needed while adding complexity to a easy fixable problem by adding idiotic draconian legislation that fixes nothing while adding additional problems that shouldn't exist. Always Think For Yourself and Question Authority ✌🏽♥️
It sucks Everytime you get in the truck and have to remember to hit off I'm just going to have to get used to it because if you buy a device to eliminate auto start stop Incase of fire I'm sure Ford will find a way to say that you caused the issue so thanks but I just have to deal with it I just bought my 2020 f150 platinum
So THE ONLY Frakkin option to disable this "feature" is to waste $100 at this random 3rd party company and plug an extra component into your vehicle and who knows WTF it's doing. But somehow everyone is blindly trusting and promoting this company. Wow.
2019 F150 5Lt I just put it in sport mode. Shuts off auto start stop. Someone knew it wasn't "SPORTY" having it turn off during spirited driving......go figure....
On my silverado the plug on the battery has apparently shaken loose all by itself. No idea how that happened. Hope I remember to tell the dealer when next I need service. I'll just have to live without it for now, sigh.
undo single plug at battery negative that monitors battery voltage/condition for stop/start system...no reference voltage...no stop/start....turns on "stop/start deactivated" icon on dash.
My Chrysler Pacifica Limited has a ton of different settings for everything from mirrors to lighting, and everything in between. It would have been nice to have a setting to turn off auto stop, but unfortunately you have to remember to turn off the switch every time you start it. I chose the auto stop eliminator. It took 15 minutes to install, and now I don't have to think about it.
I am having issues with not getting to work had new battery fitted under warranty that fixed the issue for 2 weeks and then stopped working again, not that want it to work lol
I don't know about old RAV4s, but the newer ones would never turn off with something like the AC on. They look at 50 parameters before they turn off. So if outside temp is too cold, won't turn off either.
@@WorkshopAddict Auto Start system requires the consumer to pay for the bigger battery, starter, engineering and when were done, the gov gives them our tax money too. We basically paid twice for it, and still cant just turn it off.
I noticed the voltage on your truck was first at 12.5 then 14.5. Was the 12.5 when the truck not running and th e14.5 a running voltage? You should do a video about FORD's BMS Battery Monitor System. Generally a battery would be fully charged state at 12.6 volts... 2.1 volts per cell, but with Fords BMS it prohibits the battery from accepting a ''full charge''. It's a weird concept to wrap your head around.
the device at 5 20 that plugs in i dont see it at the link you provided? they only have the one where you have to take the cover off to get to it? where can i get the small box one that just plugs in to the computer. ty
The best option should be a factory setting of being able to do that very thing. As the vehicle owner, I think it should be up to them to decide how they want the vehicle to perform. I know, we apparently aren't worthy of doing that in the opinion of the powers to be but should.
You are 100 Percent correct. We paid for the vehicle, let us choose.
I'm not screwing with it and then I would be the blame Incase of a fire hell no
Naturally, the overreaching government and authoritarian EPA are to blame - the EPA offers incentives to automakers on their fuel economy targets if vehicles are equipped with auto start-stop, but only if the customer can't disable it. (You can also thank the FEDGOV for intrusively noisy pedestrian-alert speakers ruining the silence of electric cars.) The claimed fuel economy savings of auto start-stop is about 4-5 MPG, but it's probably much less, and the wear and tear is far greater because of the loss of oil pressure during off-cycles prior to restart, and the amount of fuel used when starting the engine is greater than when running the engine. The ideal choice would be a device that can connect to the OBD-II port that automatically issues a CAN signal to shut off auto start/stop after about 30 seconds of the vehicle running, and ideally with a pass-through that allows another OBD-II device to connect after it. Also, complain to your congressperson and tell them you will VOTE THEM OUT for shortening the life and hampering your enjoyment of your vehicle unless they do something to rein in the EPA. Then actually FOLLOW THROUGH - most incumbent politicians have a history of corruption that helps keep them there.
@@Acoustic_Theory If this is being done because the EPA is offering incentives, that tells me it's not a regulatory requirement. It's a financial incentive to the manufacturer. That's a simple fix. Simply refuse to buy them. That will outweigh the government overreach, quick, fast, and in a hurry.
@@Acoustic_Theory the EPA is but another of CA's long list of BS.
Just got a new 2020 Raptor, thought they would have dropped this system. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!
I own a 2020 Ford Ranger. To disable the Auto Start Stop function all I need to do is plug a small LED night light (110 volt) into the 110-volt outlet on the rear of the center console. Note that the Auto Start Stop function is not enabled IF an electrical accessory is turned on or plugged in. This is mentioned on page 145 in 2020 Ford Ranger Owner's Manual. This should work for other Ford SUV and pickup trucks as well. This guy is trying to make money like the salespersons promoting cookware on TV. He always praises all products from different companies despites of what. What the hell?
No, he's not even using an affiliate link, so how does he make money? Your LED night light idea could work, but it'll kill your battery if you park at an airport for vacation and forget to remove it since it's always draining current.
Side note, I recently did some genealogy research into my family and one of the early settlers into Jamestown was Hugh Gwynn (1600). He is my 8th Great Grandfather. The Gwynn surname was spelled many different ways including Wynn but they were all from the same family. So long story short, you could be my cousin.
Good presentation, and I'm glad you didn't promote some of the bad solutions that are common on the internet. I suggest everyone who wants to defeat the system use one of the products you showed, which will keep all the other systems working as designed. Messing with modern vehicles electronics is a good way to screw up multiple systems. They are much too complex for the average owner to mess with. Yes, those solutions are expensive for what they are, but all the other cheap fixes are no where near as good.
Surely you still need the engine running for aircon to turn the compressor? Here in Europe the manufacturers love these Start-Stop devices - I always disable it on my friend's Land Rover - we have an extra issue. We have a lot of turbo diesels and if you want a turbo to live a long time you should let it idle for 30 seconds at start-up and before shutting off the engine (called simmering) to ensure cooler oil reaches the turbo bearings. Stop-Starts don't always alklow this leading to premature turbo failure.
We call that coking the turbo here. The oil cokes up, or cooks, in the turbo from the heat. Same issue on the Eco-boost gas engines. The air conditioning does not have a compressor running, but while turned off it cuts the fan in half and still pushes cooler air. In the summer, it sucks.
@@WorkshopAddict yes ... 3-4 minutes of cool-down from high temps is necessary. ASS mode has no idea about that, methinks.
The one that you plug in behind the switch is just a latching toggle-switch type electronic gate that does the same thing as shorting the wires. If you’re comfortable with your abilities you can just put a toggle switch in its place. I’d probably put an appropriately sized fuse in line too just to be safe.
Well I must be weird because I have an F150 2015 Platinum that stickered over $50 ,000.and it has every conceivable option on it except start/stop.I go to Florida for the winter and some of their traffic lights are literally 5 minutes long.Thats a lot of wasted gas.My last F150 came with it and I got used to it for that reason..I would gladly trade for s/s and get rid of the lane change alert that grabs your steering wheel unless you stay perfectly between the hi way lines.Or the second option I detest is adaptive speed control [cruise].I just want to drive my truck the way I have been doing for yrs. and not how some engineer decided how you will pilot your vehicle .I dont understand why people are waiting for self driving cars.We wont be in control but just get in and sit and be driven as if we re on a streetcar...
Yes, weird.... Florida people usually hate the loss of AC when the truck turns off.
@@WorkshopAddict You are right.However Im a Michigan boy and also a retired carpenter.I dont pay attention too much to temperatures around me.When Im in Fl.for the winter my windows are usually down and my sirius satis turned up to Motown music.Fl.does do something to the body tho cause my snowbird family Fl.residents cant function without something blowing on them.I tell them the state made them weak..lol
Thanks for the video!! START/STOP does NOT save gas (much)!! It takes MORE fuel to start a gasoline engine than to run it for a short while. Way back when I was a teen, it took 2 minutes of fuel to restart a car. With better efficiency engines, I'm sure that time has shortened, BUT it ain't ZERO! So, there is no benefit. The engine DOES turn off in the heat, so no AC in SE La is NOT a smart move. Also, about the "powers that be"- The car is YOURS. YOU bought it. You can do what you want with it, as long as it is legal. Are you responsible for making sure that what you do will not harm the car? Yes! So, do your homework first. Starting and restarting your car puts a lot of wear and tear on your engine. This causes the need for expensive engine repair. So much for the "powers that be". 😊
I just watched a video and guy just discnnected his trailer lights and signals plug, said it worked fine if hauling a trailer make sure you remember to plug back in???? ever heard of that sound too simple
I just installed an Auto Stop Eliminator on my 2020 F150. I was easy to fit in the dash. The same company also sells an OBD version but I figured I would never want to not have it on plus I use my OBD connector every once in a while for other stuff.
I came across an option while perusing the 2022 order form and found an option to have the start/stop shut off at the factory. People looking to order a new vehicle from Ford might want to ask about it. It might be a fleet option, I couldn't tell from the form I saw.
Hey there, I loved your thorough approach here. I agree on staying away from the more invasive methods. I personally am leaning toward the Start stop eliminator that wires into the switch circuit. Thanks for your video....
Hi, does it work also for honda ridgeline 2020? If so, can you pls give me the link where can I purchase it. I'm from Ontario Canada Thanks
I bought a 2023 f150 and three things are driving me nuts.
1. This issue.
2. I wanted to remember that I had it in Eco because I just had to run to Aldi's... And I can change things if I need to haul something right?
3. I have everything Android paid for and when I hit the talk button I just want Android to hear me. I currently have to hit the mic button on screen of Android Auto. I had a much better experience in my 2016 Hyundai. Unreal.
I think a test drive these days should also include a test drive of the freaking utilities.
I have a 2019 f150 alt and I didnt have to buy anything to disable the auto start stop function. There is a wire you disconnect on the driver sie by the harness panel and you just pull that wire out and u dont have to worry about the start stop function. The guy that showed how to do this is on utube and his young son did it. The problem is that its been so long that I cant remember the link. You can search for the F150 Ford truck that explains how to do it. Its easy and simple and it doesnt interfere with anything nad I have been using it for a couple of years with no problems of any kind...look for it on utube its the father telling his boy to disconnect the wire. sorry i cant remember the link shoulldnt be too hard to find... and it doesnt cost anything..
New cars are such a love/hate!
Great video presentation ✊🏾💯🍻 DP
Cali.
Who manufactures the one that plugs into the obd port?
Do you have a link to the device that connects directly to OBD port?
Ordered, thank you
Nice! When I was car shopping I eliminated all with that annoying start/stop "feature". Now I have options. Anyone know why Chevy back-up lights (white) come one when parked /off ? I always think they are backing up in parking lots. Wtf?
Possibly to give the driver lighting to exit the car? Maybe the same reason they put lights on battery powered push mowers. :)
That feature drives me crazy too. Always see those back up lights on, and think it’s someone backing up, but it’s just them getting out of the car or similar. It can cause an accident in a parking lot 🤦♂️
Great video brian
Just disconnect the black plug on the trailer tow module down by the brake pedal and it deactivates the auto stop start just plug it back in when you decide to tow.
WorkshopAddict Does this work? What are the side affects?
That is the perfect hack and it works like a charm
Also disables park assist (throws a slip differential error if you hit the button for park assist). That being said, who actually uses park assist?!?!?
Takes me longer to pick my nose than to press the little disable button and now I don't worry about forgetting to reconnect the frkn trailer lights and getting pulled over for no lights after having a couple of refreshments at the boat dock. I know people hate nannys but seriously, every hack I've researched for disabling this idiotic but simple-to-press-a-disable button system has drawbacks. No thanks. I'm just hoping in 10 years this dumb "fuel saving" measure is history anyway. Until then, pressing the button is as habitual for me as putting the vehicle in gear....
I have a way that costs ZERO money. Pop the hood and locate the negative battery terminal. Unplug the tiny wire harness plug. This is the battery state of charge sensor. That's it, you have now disabled start/stop. It will not throw an engine code or affect anything else. The bonus is that it disables Sync 3 anti playlist scrolling. Now my passenger can scroll music with out it locking.
You have done exactly what the FORScan module does to remove the Start Stop and that does effect your charging system. It does work, but long term there are some downsides.
Can someone explain what unplugging this wire actually does? I read about this and tried it on my truck, but I'm not sure what else it affects.
@@jeffmayberry4064 That “charging sensor” acts like a trickle charger and sets parameters to when the battery gets charged by the alternator. Supposed to start charging when the battery level drops below xx and stops the charging when the battery level reaches yy. These were never in “older”vehicles as stated in this video. Older cars kept constantly charging the battery. This system is “supposed” to extend the battery life by not keeping the battery at constant charge of 100%. Instead it keeps it about 80% fully charged and may kick on when it drops below say 70%. I’ve heard this system has actually prevented batteries from functioning long term because they never get to be fully charged, like they used to in them older vehicles 🤔🤫??
That being said, I do believe it’s there to keep the power somewhat consistent so all those chips in your new vehicle don’t get any surges or drops to prevent hiccup in the software or hardware.. much like home computers usually are plugged into power surge protectors?? Just my two cents.
@@SA-hk8xj I've had mine unhooked for nearly a year now. Doesn't seem to affect anything. I'll report back if I see any ill effects. Pretty sure it just monitors the battery voltage, so the system knows when to restart the engine after extended periods of "auto stop".
@@jeffmayberry4064 I've had mine unhooked for about two years. No effect other than eliminating the annoyance of start/stop. If my truck explodes one day or suddenly catches fire I'll let you know.
But so far it seems like the simplest solution to a maddening problem added by Ford to placate Big Nanny and bug its customers.
I like the plug in option and wondered if it was available for my 2019 GMC Sierra 1500?
I do not see a plug and play, but found this that most people use. www.autostopeliminator.com/store/c11/auto-stop-start-disable-gmc-sierra-2019.html
There is a easy way just raise the hood and unplug the 2 wire plug on the positive battery terminal and it will keep running
$89 and $99, I'll keep pressing the button manually and save $100 for Beer, Thanks! 🍺 🍻🍺 🍻🍺 🍻
Dude you just have to unplug the wire with the grey plug on the driver side by the left knee shin area. Done in 2sec and free !
@@rajbassi6338 : if you are hauling a trailer it will disable it. I fix it using Forscan permanently!🤪👌
@@rajbassi6338 Black wires now.
I took me about three weeks to learn to do it as a conditioned reflex. And since my grandson is a superhero fan, he happily reminds me to push the "Avengers Button!"
Unfortunately those two options are not available for Honda Ridgeline.
Simplest way is hold button in and jam a toothpick in the crack to hold button in. DONE
Come on man....$100? You can get the same thing on ebay for $8. I would say just lower your prices to something reasonable and people will choose the easy and safe route that yours provides. My 2 cents.
I just put the trans in sport mode and it disables automatically.
I wish there was a way to keep it in sport mode by default...or at least reorder the modes to put sport first.
Hello, will that start stop eliminator work on a 2022 Ford Transit 350HD Cargo Van with the 3.5 ECOBoost engine?
Mine dont even auto stop anymore 😂 i pressed the button for 6months straight now i dont even need to press the button the truck wont auto stop
That probably means you have an issue with the charging system.
@@WorkshopAddict yea i thought that too the dealer checked it and said everything’s normal he said he could go in and figure out why it wont stop but i said not to i dont like it saves the starter from wearing out faster too
Where can you purchase this device to plug in
Links in description
I'll just push the free button! Well I just got an F150 that has AS/S, maybe it will start to annoy me eventually.,if it does I will buy this ...But the as/s is really the dumbest thing ever installed on a vehicle. Sure...everyone wants their vehicle to conk out at a busy intersection!
Does anyone else have problem with the Ford F150 2018 eco-boost heater system the heater in mind keeps going out
So creating the problem and selling the solution.
Ford has to fix this
Or just go into settings,advanced settings,vehicle then click on engine start stop box and it's permanently disabled
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@WorkshopAddict it definitely worked on my 2018.The auto apart stop symbol still shows itself on dash when brake is applied but the truck does not shut off
Can't find the one on site that stays plugged in to the OSD port and no programming done
Promo code doesn't work
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I not sure if you know that the 4dtech does NOT allow you to turn the unit on and off. It's in the fine print!
Our memorizer version for the F-150 does allow you to re-enable and disable the system with the button at any time. We do not have any print specifying otherwise.
Might want to check out this vid before spending time or money. ruclips.net/video/RJEzjws0k-g/видео.html. Takes maybe 10 seconds and it’s absolutely free,
You will have to reconnect the plug to get the trailer lights to work when and if you hitch up a trailer and then disconnect the plug again to disable the auto stop when you unhitch. But that beats the shit out of hitting that stupid button every time you get in the vehicle.or spending money on a gadget.
Ford ranger unglued a wire on the negative cable off the battery.
Disconnect plug near ground of battery all gone
The recommended solution is cost prohibitive...way over priced. FORSCAN option is best...obviously. Warranty is never an option anyway since nothing they cover is ever anything that breaks, and when it does it's 2 days after the warranty expired. Besides, you going to let a dealership work on your vehicle? Good luck with that and you better have deeeeeeep pockets.
Just buy a vehicle without it altogether.
i just put my shit in to sport mode....
Our Start Stop Eliminator goes into a ultra low power "Sleep" mode when the vehicle is turned off and only wakes up when the other electronic modules wake up. Power draw will never be an issue, even when the vehicle is stored for long periods of time.
Thank you for clarifying further!
Do you have a link to the device that connects directly to OBD port?
Hello, will that start stop eliminator work on a 2022 Ford Transit 350HD Cargo Van with the 3.5 ECOBoost engine?
First, coaching people on how to communicate, awesome! People hide behind their technology and have forgotten how to respectfully communicate. Wonderful that you realize this is controversial and so you set up the conversation. Two, thank you for the information. I’m not sure I could purchase any new car, just too many nannies for me so it is good to see there are safe work a rounds that frankly are good for many many reasons but not for everyone. Love your channel has climbed to the top of my list😎 S
Thanks Scott
If someone would just manufacture an identical switch, but not make it a momentary switch, make it latching switch.
I just unplug the black wire under the dash that plugs into white box. The one that controls my trailer lights. Whenever I hook up my trailer I plug it back in.
Is there any consequence's for doing that ?
@@dommd9450 no it has not given me any problems. However, My truck is pretty plain with no extra electronic features.
This feature is bad for the battery, bad for the starter and bad for the engine ($$$$). And it's utterly unnerving. I hate it. It's a battery eater and the proof of it is that start/stop is automatically put to off when outside temperature is 4 celsius or less.
Finally it does no good for environment as replacing these parts has its ecological print, far exceeding the negligible fuel economy. (Except for certain exceptionnal situations like a big trafic jam or waiting in line at the car wash.)
I think it will be withdrawn some day, or at least disabling it become permanent until you put it on again.
Just unplug it under the dash it's a small black wire and clip and when you step on the brake the Icon comes on but the engine doesn't shut off
Exactly!
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I agree. Just remember to plug back before visiting the dealership. Also if towing a trailer or camper. If not the lights on the back will not work. I forgot one time ...
be aware it will affect other systems. My '17 F150 XLT 2.7 V6 ... loses the trailer brake lights. sigh.
Higher end/features ... I know the tailgate release and a touch door handle on the Platinum ... those features are also lost.
It seems like Ford designed this to be a real bugger to debug. pony-up $100 for the plug-in deal ... or get to re-wiring.
All you gotta do is unplug the wire with the grey plug by the driver side left knee foot area. Free and done ! 2seconds
Yep, tow module. Just not helpful if towing.
Won't matter... Plug it back in when towing and A.S.S. stays off@@BushmanCanuck
Super east super cheap...ziltch
I thought it was bad on my 2017 F150, god it’s horrible on my 2020 Pacifica, feels like a 3 leg horse when it fires back up.
My 2019 Volkswagen Jetta is the same it went to sleep as soon as I tried to reverse
Best way to get rid of the auto start stop garbage...don't buy a vehicle that is equipped with it.
I respectfully disagree as there are many ways to work around this and you can buy the vehicle that is right for you even if it has this option.
@@WorkshopAddict Yep, don't buy that garbage at all, never had a problem turning a key, and when I start my truck I want it running, not shutting off every time you stop, that's a horrible waste of energy and fuel and hard on the engine...regardless what people think & say now, time will prove my point when all that crap fails. Yeah you can turn it off every time you start your car but I shouldn't have to, it shouldn't be a standard feature, if you want to shell out extra money for that junk then fine, but don't force it upon everyone because someone at the engineering office thought it sounded cool.
@@wildbill23c It's going to be standard on every new vehicle, so unless you only want to purchase a n older, used vehicle in the future, you won't have a choice.
@@unitedgray Exactly what I have and what I'll keep, older vehicles without all that garbage. There's nothing new out there that I would ever want in the first place.
@@wildbill23c ikr, older cars are so much better and cheaper to repair and take less time to repair. I hope they still keep making the necessary parts!
Call me cheap but $100 is a bit expensive for this hardware. I went with the free option of unplugging the black connecter (bottom one of 3) on the box just under the steering wheel. The only downside of this is that it removes the power to the tow lights, but for a guy like me who might tow something once every 2 years, I can just plug it back in for the trip.
So basically buy this.....after you buy your truck...hahaha yeah
On my 2018 F150 I just unplugged the wire to my negative battery post. Open the hood and find the battery. On the negative battery post are two tiny wires one red and one purple with a single plug that plugs into a sealed electrical component that is mounted on the wires attaching to the negative battery post. If it takes more than a minute from the time you pull the hood release, your doing something wrong.
Stop voting for obtuse self serving scandalous minded legislators that pressure or incentivize auto manufacturers and over reach their bureaucracy on issues that aren't as important or what is really needed while adding complexity to a easy fixable problem by adding idiotic draconian legislation that fixes nothing while adding additional problems that shouldn't exist. Always Think For Yourself and Question Authority ✌🏽♥️
It sucks Everytime you get in the truck and have to remember to hit off I'm just going to have to get used to it because if you buy a device to eliminate auto start stop Incase of fire I'm sure Ford will find a way to say that you caused the issue so thanks but I just have to deal with it I just bought my 2020 f150 platinum
i cannot find your recommended ODB2 for 2021 f150 xlt ? is it me or are they not avaiable for 2021 truck models?
I have the Autostop Eliminator in my 2019 Edge ST since I bought it in late 2019. It is perfect. I highly recommend the produce.
Anyone try to plug in a trailer light tester into the rest Port, it is supposed to signal the truck has a trailer and disable the start/stop
It will disable the start stop but also disables other things like backup alarms and blis.
What about cylinder deactivation? Is there anything that will eliminate that?
Yes, I use a very similar product made by Range Technologies on my Vette to keep all 8 firing.
Where do I find one of those bypasses for my 19 f150?
Does this method of disabling Auto start-stop do it, by disabling battery monitoring, as is the case with Forscan method?
No, the battery monitoring is still active.
I just stopped driving and began using the Star Trek teleportation device I received last Xmas.
Interesting.. Love the channel
Appreciate the advice, now I just need an OBDII for my vehicle 😱 not one for my model. I will be inquiring
Can you just disconnect the plug behind the brake to eliminate start/stop?
Not without a CEL
Edward Lopez yes you can
I followed the link for the OBDII version but I didn't see one for the Ford Bronco. Just had the wire harness version. Dang!
I installed the Start stop eliminator, in my 2022 f150 2 month after I bought it. 2yrs and still working.
So THE ONLY Frakkin option to disable this "feature" is to waste $100 at this random 3rd party company and plug an extra component into your vehicle and who knows WTF it's doing. But somehow everyone is blindly trusting and promoting this company. Wow.
2019 F150 5Lt I just put it in sport mode. Shuts off auto start stop. Someone knew it wasn't "SPORTY" having it turn off during spirited driving......go figure....
On my silverado the plug on the battery has apparently shaken loose all by itself. No idea how that happened. Hope I remember to tell the dealer when next I need service. I'll just have to live without it for now, sigh.
undo single plug at battery negative that monitors battery voltage/condition for stop/start system...no reference voltage...no stop/start....turns on "stop/start deactivated" icon on dash.
the link shows the wire in harness, where is the plug in under the dash?
My Chrysler Pacifica Limited has a ton of different settings for everything from mirrors to lighting, and everything in between. It would have been nice to have a setting to turn off auto stop, but unfortunately you have to remember to turn off the switch every time you start it. I chose the auto stop eliminator. It took 15 minutes to install, and now I don't have to think about it.
How do you know for sure that disabling it with foreskin also disables the smart charging system?
Just watch the volts afterward. It is very clear what happens.
@@WorkshopAddict just noticed my phone auto corrected it to foreskin lol.
@@Jason.F. I picked up what you were putting down.
Does the auto stop cause the engine light? When it’s not working properly It turns off turns back on, and the wrench comes on. 6:18
I am having issues with not getting to work had new battery fitted under warranty that fixed the issue for 2 weeks and then stopped working again, not that want it to work lol
I have a 2019 ranger I just plugged a nite light into my 120 outlet and painted it black and that disables it
I don't know about old RAV4s, but the newer ones would never turn off with something like the AC on. They look at 50 parameters before they turn off. So if outside temp is too cold, won't turn off either.
I have a 2019 F150 5.0. Once in a great while when you go to start makes a loud boom any ideas
OMG !!!! I needed this video 5 years ago. lol Better late than never. I hate my start/stop function !!! I'm going to buy that cable. Thanks !!!
Unplug tow module.
People are saying it is expensive. I can see why. New technology or products will always be expensive.
Sometimes doing things right costs a bit of money.
@@WorkshopAddict Auto Start system requires the consumer to pay for the bigger battery, starter, engineering and when were done, the gov gives them our tax money too. We basically paid twice for it, and still cant just turn it off.
Does it work on 2021 f150?
I am unsure. Did you check the link in the description? I am sure so.ething changed but I bet they figured it out.
Great video that covered viable options. I ordered the harness from your link.
I noticed the voltage on your truck was first at 12.5 then 14.5. Was the 12.5 when the truck not running and th e14.5 a running voltage? You should do a video about FORD's BMS Battery Monitor System. Generally a battery would be fully charged state at 12.6 volts... 2.1 volts per cell, but with Fords BMS it prohibits the battery from accepting a ''full charge''. It's a weird concept to wrap your head around.
the device at 5 20 that plugs in i dont see it at the link you provided? they only have the one where you have to take the cover off to get to it? where can i get the small box one that just plugs in to the computer. ty
Chevy gives you the option to deactivate this feature..fyi
Hey does the auto start stop plug mess up the warranty??
Just program your to turn it off and is free.
Government in our life again...
What is name of this product