Fr, it was open season, smurfs, the emoji movie, and then suddenly the spider-verse movies and Mitchell's vs the machines. It's like they just suddenly started trying out of nowhere
Sid's "a dandelion! Musht be the lasht one of the sheashon" became a meme with my friends recently and now I love ice age so much more than I already did
I think Snow White suffers a issue that a lot of early Disney Animated films had in that the story is put on the backburner while the animation takes more of the focus of the movie. That's probably why a lot of the scenes drag, because it's made not with the intention of telling a story, it's mainly to showcase the animation.
If anyone wants to learn more about this and the context behind Snow White in general I HIGHLY recommend There Will Be Fud’s Snow White video essay. It genuinely gave me an incredibly deep understanding and appreciation for a movie I never really cared about
When I recently watched it after watching a bunch of old shorts made in the decades leading up, it makes so much sense. The format animation was before this was 10 minutes that were either a pretty song thing or a gag. Little stories, one continuous sequence. The pacing of snow white, especially the songs, feels like a whole bunch of animated shorts strung together - early disney even has awkward, too-long-by-modern-standards crossfades where they've finished one sequence and haven't figured out how to smoothly transition to the next. I'm not arguing that the pacing of Snow White is Good Actually - it does in fact drag out and end up sorta awkward and stilted by modern film standards - but I fully understand how and why it happened, in the film context of the day
That is actually typical pacing in those times. It isn't really much as the story being put on the backburner, that is just how the people those days want their stories done. Modern films can actually be too frenetic. This is really more on the culture and taste at those times. The scenes "drag" but that is what people at those times wants. They do this on live action films too. Even in their writings. This is mainly because, things are new back then and many things presented on screen is something most people haven't seen, known and experienced before. There was no internet and television is not common and quite primitive. Movie viewing is really a very unique experience. So, if there are some beautiful scenery depicted, the audience wants the film to linger so they could take their time to enjoy it. Same for the emotional moments. They to bathe these moments. Of course, taste and culture have changed now. Films and animation is incredibly common and you probably watched dozens if not hundreds of hours of them right at home before you even see a film in theaters. Beautiful scenery and intricate artwork aren't going to keep attention anymore, nor would you want the film to linger on them.
The most interesting thing about Sponge Out of Water is how much content was scrapped. A lot of people probably know about "Thank Gosh It's Monday" was scrapped for time, but what interests me the most is how some of the deleted scenes expanded on the villain's backstory, which probably could've helped give the film more weight to it, but another thing is that there was a cut scene of Squidward doing a little "interpretive dance" in the live action setting, yet one of the lines from that scene still made it into the film (albeit during the end credits). Tho nothing will ever top the first movie removing a scene of CGI Sandy with a gun.
From what I know, the creative team behind the movie had almost no control behind what made it onto the film because out of touch executives just kept asking for this and that to be included, with no regards for how that would actually fit in with the overall movie. And it seemed to be very hit or miss, where it worked well or decently in the first half, but their demands and "ideas" likely became so overwhelming in the second half that it started to feel incongruent with the rest of the movie.
I always forget Antz is the first film for Dreamworks, i always close it off and see The Prince Of Egypt as their true first, that would slap Dreamworks in the number 1 spot instantly
Man, that scene in Chicken Run in the beginning when Mrs. Tweedy kills that chicken, followed by Ginger crying will forever live in my mind When I was little I was scrolling through the TV because I was bored, and I found that this movie was playing on a channel I never watched. This was my first time seeing this film, and wouldn't you know it, it was this exact scene playing. Man, what a first impression for 8 year old me, huh?
All good that you didn’t click with Secret of Kells, but I want to sell it to anyone who hasn’t seen it to give it a chance as it’s still probably my second favorite Cartoon Saloon movie after Wolfwalkers. The thing you’re missing is that it’s way more than a father-son conflict, it’s a conflict of the old vs new traditions, of oral history vs written history, of paganism vs religion. It’s an incredibly ambitious first movie and I found the ending incredibly satisfying because we were literally flipping the page in the history books. It’s definitely not for everyone but I can guarantee you’ll never see a movie like it.
Man, Klaus is my favourite Christmas movie. It's so sweet and wholesome, and absolutely one of my favourites, not only on this list but of all time. I think the only movie that could beat it out is the Lego Movie.
This was a lot of fun! Reminded me that I definitely need to watch more Aardman and Studio Ghibli movies, I’ve only seen like one movie from each of them despite how much praise I hear for both of them.
Honestly, I’ve always held a soft spot for Sponge out of Water, even if it isn’t the best, and definitely not better than the first movie, I still love it.
I have a nostalgic connection to the ice age franchise, I used to love these movies and I can’t make myself hate them (except the 5th one. Fuck that movie)
OK I checked your letterboxd, and noticed 2 potential themes for that last ranking video. The first is Godzilla films, which I'd more expect Nemesis to do on his own. And the other, much funnier route is every film that has ranked last place on a Schaffrillas Productions ranking video.
@@chrisrockett5897 Laika IS Will Vinton studios. The only reason they didn’t keep the name was because Will fought for the right to his name after Phil Knight stole the studio. But it’s the same. Laika is built upon the foundation that Will Vinton created.
@@thecollector4332 Valid, but if Laika doesn't consider Will Vinton's works their first, neither will I despite how awful the situation is. It's funny as shit connecting The PJs to Paranorman though, no disrespect to Will Vinton's works at all.
This video rocks, i can’t put into words how happy i felt when i finally found Song of the Sea and The Secret of Kells again after almost a decade. I watched those movies when i was about 2 or 3 and ive been trying to find them ever since. Thank you for helping me rediscover these early childhood classics.
I got to rewatch Coraline during a school celebration, and I am still completely stunned at how unique, visually stunning, and terrifying it was. Easily a top 5 movie of all time for me.
I was washing dishes while I was listening to this video so I kind of tuned out for a second, but for a moment I honestly thought you ranked 8 Crazy Nights above Toy Story and Chicken Run.
My ranking 14. Antz 13. Open season 12. The secret of kells 11. Snow white and the seven dwarfs 10. Chicken run 9. The spongebob movie sponge out of water 8. Ice age 7. Despicable me 6. Batman mask of the phantasm 5. Castle in the sky 4. Coraline 3. Toy story 2. Klaus 1. The lego movie
It's been 10 years and i'll still never get over The Lego Movie. I'll never get over how incredible it is, how funny it is and how visually stunning it is. I remember my first viewing of it like it was yesterday; first time i ever fell in love with a film first viewing. It really help push me creatively and helped me become an artist!
Here's my ranking based on interest: 14: Open Season 13: Sponge Out of Water 12: Ice Age 11: Despicable Me 10: Antz 9: Chicken Run 8: Klaus 7: The Lego Movie 6: Batman: Mask of the Phantasm 5: The Secret of Kells 4: Coraline 3: Castle in the Sky 2: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1: Toy Story
here’s mine: 14. antz 13. sponge out of water 12. open season 11. chicken run 10. ice age 9. snow white 8. the secret of kells 7. klaus 6. toy story 5. despicable me 4. the lego movie 3. batman phantasm 2. coraline 1. castle in the sky
Great Ranking overall, despite me being an Open Season fan. Which I like because nostalgia and I actually find some of the scenes funny. I also might check out Coraline and Klaus around this Halloween and Christmas Edit: Also, from the films you have recently seen, the best guess I can make is Ranking The Worst Animated Movies ever
About DC movies I think are just as good, there is Batman Beyond: The Return of The Joker. Batman: Under the Red Hood. Batman: Year One and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and 2. Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay. Not as good as the Mask of the Phantom but also very good there is Superman vs The Elite. Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox. All Star Superman. Justice League: New Frontier.
I totally get your criticisms of the secret of kells in fact I pretty much agree with them, but even if the animation was the main thing carrying it, surely that in combination with the fact that nothing else is particularly bad about it would be enough to get it a little higher. At least above snow white, they were both made to showcase their animation and the secret of kells does both that and the story better, so I don't see why it would be below it That said, though I disagree with that one thing, this is a pretty great, well made and entertaining video. Good job and thank you
There's not a huge gap between Kells and Snow White. I just let that one rank higher since I got more enjoyment from the jokes and the interactions between the characters, plus it being a big piece of animation history gave it a bit more of a novelty. Everything ranked above them had a story I was invested in and emotional beats that landed without anything to sink the experience for me.
@@ThatLegoGuy-10140 They are really good movies but I feel like you kinda need to watch the animated series that go along with them which just makes them a harder entry point.
I mean generally from what I've heard between DC and Marvel, historically DC's been the one dominating in Animation, while Marvel has the better history with Live Action.
I personally disagree with your thoughts on Sponge Out of Water's second half, as I enjoy the movie as a whole, preferring its characterisation of Plankton and liking its comedy just a smidge more than its predecessor, even if the original has the stronger story and message. Otherwise, this is an incredibly solid ranking!
Yeah I feel like Sponge out of Water gets a bit too much hate. I feel like it does more unique stuff than the first movie which when you look at it is really just a glorified road-trip movie (a great one but still feels cliche). I also think the movie uses it’s cast better than the first movie as well as have a more entertaining villain (plankton is a bit too generic tbh in the first movie). I do think the third act of the first movie makes the first one better than the second one, but I say it’s significantly closer than most claim
I heard that a new studio was made with Nimona as their first movie. They will release 2 more soon, with a video game movie adaptation of “Stray” being one of them.
I have a very soft spot for Ice Age, the first 3 movies in particular but I did find enjoyment in the 4th one. I love Manfred's design and his journey throughout the saga from a troubled loner to a loving father given his past. It's also one of the few trio dynamics across animated movie franchises, with the only other competition being Finding Nemo, even if both moves has their titular characters separated. They use the Freudian Trio trope pretty well imo. I'm also a sucker for Scrat's antics and it's facinating seeing a 3D attempt at Looney Tunes style comedy this early into the medium's life. And the setting is still very unique to this day with very few other movies taking place in the time period. Collision Course can go extinct for all I care though.
You know it’s funny, the only part of Coraline that scared me as a child that still uneases me the most to this day is the one open mouthed ghost girl. Don’t know what it is about it but it’s so creepy and uncanny with the way they designed her.
For me it was mostly just kinda creepy throughout I guess and also pretty scary and sad because of the themes of losing parents, but the scene with the mice in the circus show genuinely creeped me the fuck out, cuz the characters were so entertained but I just thought it was all so creepy. There will be creepy shit happening but the main character doesn’t see anything wrong with it. That’s why I think it’s so creepy, because we all relate to Coraline but when in the other world getting everything she wants, we see how truly twisted her desires are. Like the other Wybie being silenced by the other mother and staying quiet through the whole film Coraline sees nothing wrong with it, it’s unnatural and wrong for him to just be quiet forever but Coraline doesn’t notice, because that’s the way she wants it. She gets everything she wants and it’s creepy and wrong and unnatural, but she’s a child getting what she wants so she doesn’t even notice nor care at first.
the fact that the only Scottish character was not just an animal, but a fucking squirrel instead of a unicorn that is the most meticulously written character whose performance would make me cry so hard that I sob out my own brain is ridiculous I am no longer joking when I say Scotland CANNOT GOD DAMN WIN 😭
Not a film, but a great animated DC project was the episode of Batman Beyond called Meltdown (guess who the villain was). You won’t need much context, maybe just a brief recap of what Mr Freeze did in Batman, the animated series and what little people remember from the Batman Beyond Death Battle.
The entire dcamu is really good. I definitely think that the first movie is the best, but I wouldn't call any of the movies bad. I definitely recommend it.
I think you should have included the first animated films from Vanguard (Valiant) and the studio that currently has John Lasseter as its leader, Skydance (Luck). I think one of them would have been below Open Season.
If it's any consolation, I watched Ice Age: Continental Drift numerous times, so I hope that evens out its disappearance from the IA part. Sad you're missing on Captain Gutt, but... still. Good video, like these more interpretive scripts and videos, highlighting unusual topics. Movies neato, I think Tamatoa Guy (I'm not putting his full name) covered this, he hasn't, glad to have a fresh take on it. Thumbs up.
I was stockholm-syndromed into liking Open Season because i watched that movie like four times a year - I have two brothers who often didn't wanna watch the movies I wanted to and vice versa, but this was one we could usually agree on. Also i was a kid (3 when this one came out, though I don't think i watched it that young) so my humor was ass lol. I really remember liking the first... I don't know, ten minutes or so? Because i liked the bear's owner, but retrospectively I think I had a crush on her more than anything else I haven't watched it in at least five years though, so I'd probably think differently nowadays
I’m with you on that Ice Age bit to where I liked the movie but the only thing I didn’t like was Scrat and that was because of only two things, A: his screaming, which makes my throat ache now because of it because man, imagine how many lozenges and all of that throat remedies they must’ve given to his VA for doing a lot of screams and to me, his scream alone from the first two movies alone to me sounded like they video taped a super crazy mother going through pain and suffering while in labor with a kid, like if they didn’t give him a voice/scream at all, I would’ve liked the character almost a whole lot and B: the way he looked in the first movie was scary to me and that was because of the animation a lone in that department, thank goodness both computers and its animation got a whole lot better throug time tho especially with how the other movies looked different than the first movie and that was alone because of the evolution of both the computer programming and it’s animation style as well!!! And I liked Sid but I agree with you that I liked/loved both Manny and Diego more than Sid, no offense to him tho but still, he’s an okay character in the end in my book and IMO, I like Sid way more than Scrat!!!
One thing I will say about Open Season, while it is a terrible movie with so much missed potential, the backgrounds of it were surprisingly beautiful when I rewatched it as a joke with a friend.
My guess? 14. Open Season (C) 13. Antz (B-) 12. SpongeBob SquarePants: Sponge Out of Water (B-) 11. Ice Age (B) 10. Klaus (B) 9. Despicable Me (B+) 8. Castle in the Sky (B+) 7. Chicken Run (B+) 6. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (A-) 5. Coraline (A-) 4. The Lego Movie (A-) 3. The Secret of Kells (A) 2. Toy Story (A) 1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (A) (Judged by modern standards? Yeah, there's a lot wrong with it. ESPECIALLY on a script level. But, judged as The First Animated Movie Ever, as it pretty much is? Yeah, I can't get mad at any of the faults, really.)
What I think about these films: -Open Season: meh, but I feel nostalgic towards it. -Antz: it's an ok movie, but Bugs Life is better. -Sponge Out of Water: funny, but the final battle was kinda lame. -Secret of Kells: never watched it. -Snow White: it's alright. -Ice Age: great movie, better than the sequels. -Despicable Me: awesome 😎. Also, like Ice Age, its better than the sequels. -Chicken Run: loved it. -Toy Story: I love it, but I love Toy Story 2 more. I had not watched the other films. Lego Movie: AWESOME 😎
I saw Ice Age as an kid and did based on the start not expect much, but the movie started to grow on me fast and i loved it overall. I Saw Despicable Me after being tired of minions everywhere, and was surprised how well they did fit in the first movie, also liked the plot and villain way more then expected With Snow White, it is taking it slow and the ending is kinda fast, but the movie keeps having so much charm. I also do not think it has aged bad, only the pacing is very off for modern times, but i love some things like the Hunter arc, and the nightmare stuff, and the queen is great as a villain there. The upcoming one keeps making fun of the old one while very likely being worse in most aspects and clearly lacking any charm
I feel like you should’ve put and watched at least Hakujaden (1958) since that was the debut film of Toei Animation (which is up there with Disney as one of the oldest animation studios in the world). Also, Open Season was mostly a guilty pleasure for me, even though Sony Pictures Animation have made far better movies since then.
For the DC animated films recommendations: Batman & Mr Freeze Sub-Zero, Teen Titans Trouble in Tokyo, Batman vs Dracula, Ninja Batman, Superman Unbound, Batman under the red hood, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, Justice League Flashpoint Paradox, Wonder Woman (2009),Superman Unbound, Batman/Superman public enemies, Batman & Superman World Finest and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and 2 are the ones I recommend in my opinion to watch cause it's so good. Also, yes watch batman the animated series and the rest of DCAU (DC Animated Universe) the animated companions Superman the animated series, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. It's basically DC's cinematic universe but good.
Ah yes a fellow fantastic mr fox enjoyer. Chad. Also my personal Laika ranking fyi: 1:ParaNorman 9/10 I rate it lower, but this is my favourite. Amazing twist and IMO the funniest Laika movie. 2:Coraline 9.5/10 You know why. 3:Kubo and the two strings 7/10 Pretty fun, good action, tho a little bit blue balled by the ending. 4:Missing Link 6.5/10 so yeah kinda predictable, but I think its the second funniest Laika movie. 5:Boxtrolls 6/10 not bad, but definitely my least favourite. With its main flaw being the one thing that drew me to Laika, its predictability.
Not gonna lie, it is a little funny to hear you critiquing the characters, romance, and plot of Snow White, which was... a very literal, one to one adaption of the fairy tale story. Yeah the prince doesn't have a character and the evil stepmother's plan is strange, that's how fairy tales be. that's not the important part of the story. Personally, for this list of movies, Klaus and Castle in the Sky would be battling for first with Secret of Kells and Coraline close behind - which honestly just shows how my interests and preferences differ from yours! As far as other Laika films - I'd say Paranorman is very very solid as well, perhaps more comparable in quality to Kubo than Coraline (I do agree that between the two, Coraline is the stronger movie - Kubo has some great qualities but also has some parts that fall fairly flat imo) - and Boxtrolls I enjoyed a lot but probably lags behind the rest. Still haven't seen missing link, personally
If they’re flaws with the original story then yeah it’s not a fault of Disney if that’s just what they had to work with. But that still means they’re directly adapting the parts that don’t work for me without doing much to improve on them. I’ve been glad to see more support for Kells in the comments lately. I still like it but it’s cool to see how many more people really love it.
You're honestly not missing much by not rewatching the sequels for Ice Age, anything after 2 or maybe 3 if we're generous is a pretty bad nosedive in quality, the single redeeming quality being scenes with Buck. Just seeing the first one is pretty much all the ice age you'll need.
I say 2 and 3 are the only ones that really matter. 4 and especially 5 just suck. Ice Age 1 feels pretty distinct from 2 and 3 tho so it’s probably better than watching the sequels
If you’re interested in more DC animated movies, Batman: Under the Red Hood is one of my favorites of all time. Would definitely recommend checking it out.
I used to _love_ Open Season as a kid, I then rewatched it when I was older and I kinda find it hard to watch now 😭the second one is better but I think the only watchable parts of it are the scenes with the dogs. Elliot is still a bit of a prick tho
I'm so with you on your hatred for Open Season. My younger sister used to watch it over and over and it always made me feel ill. Animation is ugly, characters are mean, gross-out humor. I don't even like to see footage of it lol
It could be argued that Nausicaa was actually the first Ghibli film, despite technically being released under Topcraft. Castle in the Sky was the first movie released by Studio Ghibli however.
A case can be made either way since Nausicaa got added to their lineup retroactively. I chose Castle in the Sky since it’d been years since I last saw it whereas I watched Nausicaa for the first time in December, plus Castle in the Sky is by far my preferred of the two
I was going to say that Sponge Out Of Water is not place 13 bad, but as soon as pkace 12 showed up yeah it checks out Guess only Sony and DreamWorks were willing to put out the worst of the worst as their debut
For as much as I ragged on Antz I don’t think it’s anywhere near Dreamworks’ worst. I’ve also had my eyes opened to Surfs Up 2 so Sony can definitely go lower than Open Season
29:10 you know, Woody was actually written as unlikeable in the Black Friday trailer. Look it up sometime, it'll make you grateful for the version we got
You forgot to mention if you hate the Ice Age baby or not anyways good video, would love a similar one like maybe ranking every highest ranked movie from these studios (though probably not for a while since I imagine there'd be some overlap)
how sony went from open season to the spiderverse films is beyond me
LMFAO REALLL
Fr, it was open season, smurfs, the emoji movie, and then suddenly the spider-verse movies and Mitchell's vs the machines. It's like they just suddenly started trying out of nowhere
They also made THE EMOJI MOVIE and MITCHELL’S VS THE MACHINES like wtf is Sony animation?
I feel like after the emoji movie they were like "oh shit we should probably make good movies now"
I mean they’re made by different directors, just sponsored by the same studio
It is pretty wild to see how different every animation studios' first films are.
Sid's "a dandelion! Musht be the lasht one of the sheashon" became a meme with my friends recently and now I love ice age so much more than I already did
I think Snow White suffers a issue that a lot of early Disney Animated films had in that the story is put on the backburner while the animation takes more of the focus of the movie. That's probably why a lot of the scenes drag, because it's made not with the intention of telling a story, it's mainly to showcase the animation.
Didn't know tech demo movies were a thing
If anyone wants to learn more about this and the context behind Snow White in general I HIGHLY recommend There Will Be Fud’s Snow White video essay. It genuinely gave me an incredibly deep understanding and appreciation for a movie I never really cared about
When I recently watched it after watching a bunch of old shorts made in the decades leading up, it makes so much sense. The format animation was before this was 10 minutes that were either a pretty song thing or a gag. Little stories, one continuous sequence. The pacing of snow white, especially the songs, feels like a whole bunch of animated shorts strung together - early disney even has awkward, too-long-by-modern-standards crossfades where they've finished one sequence and haven't figured out how to smoothly transition to the next. I'm not arguing that the pacing of Snow White is Good Actually - it does in fact drag out and end up sorta awkward and stilted by modern film standards - but I fully understand how and why it happened, in the film context of the day
I don't think it drags, but it's also not too plot heavy. I think it's beautiful and really relaxing.
That is actually typical pacing in those times. It isn't really much as the story being put on the backburner, that is just how the people those days want their stories done. Modern films can actually be too frenetic.
This is really more on the culture and taste at those times. The scenes "drag" but that is what people at those times wants. They do this on live action films too. Even in their writings.
This is mainly because, things are new back then and many things presented on screen is something most people haven't seen, known and experienced before. There was no internet and television is not common and quite primitive. Movie viewing is really a very unique experience. So, if there are some beautiful scenery depicted, the audience wants the film to linger so they could take their time to enjoy it. Same for the emotional moments. They to bathe these moments.
Of course, taste and culture have changed now. Films and animation is incredibly common and you probably watched dozens if not hundreds of hours of them right at home before you even see a film in theaters. Beautiful scenery and intricate artwork aren't going to keep attention anymore, nor would you want the film to linger on them.
This video was extremely entertaining and well put together
This felt like a top tier Schafrillas video.
Congrats
I’d say it’s better then the recent Schaffrillas rankinfs
With a much better mic
The best part of Open Season is when the hunter hits the deer with his truck
The most interesting thing about Sponge Out of Water is how much content was scrapped. A lot of people probably know about "Thank Gosh It's Monday" was scrapped for time, but what interests me the most is how some of the deleted scenes expanded on the villain's backstory, which probably could've helped give the film more weight to it, but another thing is that there was a cut scene of Squidward doing a little "interpretive dance" in the live action setting, yet one of the lines from that scene still made it into the film (albeit during the end credits).
Tho nothing will ever top the first movie removing a scene of CGI Sandy with a gun.
From what I know, the creative team behind the movie had almost no control behind what made it onto the film because out of touch executives just kept asking for this and that to be included, with no regards for how that would actually fit in with the overall movie.
And it seemed to be very hit or miss, where it worked well or decently in the first half, but their demands and "ideas" likely became so overwhelming in the second half that it started to feel incongruent with the rest of the movie.
I always forget Antz is the first film for Dreamworks, i always close it off and see The Prince Of Egypt as their true first, that would slap Dreamworks in the number 1 spot instantly
It might be due to Prince of Egypt being hand-drawn animation, and thus might have an 'earlier' film.
This is way cooler than the “Animation Studios Rankings” I expected.
My top 5
5. Coraline 8.5/10
4. Klaus 9/10
3. The Lego Movie 9.5/10
2. Toy Story 9.5/10
1. Batman Mask of the Phantasm 9.77383993/10😊
Surprised that you didn’t put Shrek on here since you have it as your username
@artagle_14 No I mean from this list, it would be there if this was from all time
Greatest movie ever
the numbers on the first one lol
Open Season is one of those movies where i know it's not that good, but still love it due to memes and nostalgia.
Man, that scene in Chicken Run in the beginning when Mrs. Tweedy kills that chicken, followed by Ginger crying will forever live in my mind
When I was little I was scrolling through the TV because I was bored, and I found that this movie was playing on a channel I never watched. This was my first time seeing this film, and wouldn't you know it, it was this exact scene playing. Man, what a first impression for 8 year old me, huh?
All good that you didn’t click with Secret of Kells, but I want to sell it to anyone who hasn’t seen it to give it a chance as it’s still probably my second favorite Cartoon Saloon movie after Wolfwalkers. The thing you’re missing is that it’s way more than a father-son conflict, it’s a conflict of the old vs new traditions, of oral history vs written history, of paganism vs religion. It’s an incredibly ambitious first movie and I found the ending incredibly satisfying because we were literally flipping the page in the history books. It’s definitely not for everyone but I can guarantee you’ll never see a movie like it.
So theres this movie called “Teen Titans Go! To the movies!” Its pretty great. I think you’d love it if you liked Mask of the Phantasm
It would be so awesome
@@BiffWeedbestest reference
"It would be so cool..."
I can almost see koopa troopa rn
It would be the most incredible superhero movie the world has ever seen
Man, Klaus is my favourite Christmas movie. It's so sweet and wholesome, and absolutely one of my favourites, not only on this list but of all time. I think the only movie that could beat it out is the Lego Movie.
This was a lot of fun! Reminded me that I definitely need to watch more Aardman and Studio Ghibli movies, I’ve only seen like one movie from each of them despite how much praise I hear for both of them.
Honestly, I’ve always held a soft spot for Sponge out of Water, even if it isn’t the best, and definitely not better than the first movie, I still love it.
I have a nostalgic connection to the ice age franchise, I used to love these movies and I can’t make myself hate them (except the 5th one. Fuck that movie)
OK I checked your letterboxd, and noticed 2 potential themes for that last ranking video. The first is Godzilla films, which I'd more expect Nemesis to do on his own. And the other, much funnier route is every film that has ranked last place on a Schaffrillas Productions ranking video.
Technically, Laika’s debut film isn’t Coraline, but “the adventures of Mark Twain”. Released in 1985.
That was pre-Laika though. It's specifically a Will Vinton production.
@@chrisrockett5897
Laika IS Will Vinton studios. The only reason they didn’t keep the name was because Will fought for the right to his name after Phil Knight stole the studio.
But it’s the same. Laika is built upon the foundation that Will Vinton created.
@@thecollector4332 Valid, but if Laika doesn't consider Will Vinton's works their first, neither will I despite how awful the situation is. It's funny as shit connecting The PJs to Paranorman though, no disrespect to Will Vinton's works at all.
This video rocks, i can’t put into words how happy i felt when i finally found Song of the Sea and The Secret of Kells again after almost a decade.
I watched those movies when i was about 2 or 3 and ive been trying to find them ever since. Thank you for helping me rediscover these early childhood classics.
I got to rewatch Coraline during a school celebration, and I am still completely stunned at how unique, visually stunning, and terrifying it was. Easily a top 5 movie of all time for me.
I was washing dishes while I was listening to this video so I kind of tuned out for a second, but for a moment I honestly thought you ranked 8 Crazy Nights above Toy Story and Chicken Run.
Well that obviously would’ve been number 1
Nemesis Bloodryche never disappoints
This one's been in the oven for quite some time, glad to see it finally out!
It’s crazy that the studio that brought us Open Season is now making banger Spiderman movies
My ranking
14. Antz
13. Open season
12. The secret of kells
11. Snow white and the seven dwarfs
10. Chicken run
9. The spongebob movie sponge out of water
8. Ice age
7. Despicable me
6. Batman mask of the phantasm
5. Castle in the sky
4. Coraline
3. Toy story
2. Klaus
1. The lego movie
The Man Carrying Thing reference caught me off guard
It's been 10 years and i'll still never get over The Lego Movie. I'll never get over how incredible it is, how funny it is and how visually stunning it is. I remember my first viewing of it like it was yesterday; first time i ever fell in love with a film first viewing.
It really help push me creatively and helped me become an artist!
Number 9 is my 3rd all-time favorite animated movie.
Here's my ranking based on interest:
14: Open Season
13: Sponge Out of Water
12: Ice Age
11: Despicable Me
10: Antz
9: Chicken Run
8: Klaus
7: The Lego Movie
6: Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
5: The Secret of Kells
4: Coraline
3: Castle in the Sky
2: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
1: Toy Story
here’s mine:
14. antz
13. sponge out of water
12. open season
11. chicken run
10. ice age
9. snow white
8. the secret of kells
7. klaus
6. toy story
5. despicable me
4. the lego movie
3. batman phantasm
2. coraline
1. castle in the sky
Great Ranking overall, despite me being an Open Season fan. Which I like because nostalgia and I actually find some of the scenes funny. I also might check out Coraline and Klaus around this Halloween and Christmas
Edit: Also, from the films you have recently seen, the best guess I can make is Ranking The Worst Animated Movies ever
"Why is the studio Ghibli movie that high?"
No, I asked myself *_"Why is it so low!?"_*
About DC movies I think are just as good, there is Batman Beyond: The Return of The Joker. Batman: Under the Red Hood. Batman: Year One and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and 2. Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay.
Not as good as the Mask of the Phantom but also very good there is Superman vs The Elite. Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox. All Star Superman. Justice League: New Frontier.
You should rank every final movie of animation studios that went out of business!
I totally get your criticisms of the secret of kells in fact I pretty much agree with them, but even if the animation was the main thing carrying it, surely that in combination with the fact that nothing else is particularly bad about it would be enough to get it a little higher. At least above snow white, they were both made to showcase their animation and the secret of kells does both that and the story better, so I don't see why it would be below it
That said, though I disagree with that one thing, this is a pretty great, well made and entertaining video. Good job and thank you
There's not a huge gap between Kells and Snow White. I just let that one rank higher since I got more enjoyment from the jokes and the interactions between the characters, plus it being a big piece of animation history gave it a bit more of a novelty. Everything ranked above them had a story I was invested in and emotional beats that landed without anything to sink the experience for me.
DC animated movies that are really good.
- Batman under the Red Hood
- Superman vs the elite
- Justice League a new frontier
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths is pretty good, too.
BB:return of the joker and MotP mop the floor with them
@@ThatLegoGuy-10140 They are really good movies but I feel like you kinda need to watch the animated series that go along with them which just makes them a harder entry point.
I mean generally from what I've heard between DC and Marvel, historically DC's been the one dominating in Animation, while Marvel has the better history with Live Action.
Why is SpongeBob out of water so underrated it was to me a fresh idea
Could've included Ron's Gone Wrong by Locksmith Animation, but it's not a big deal.
My Ron’s Gone Wrong senses were tingling
This video is actually quite good
I personally disagree with your thoughts on Sponge Out of Water's second half, as I enjoy the movie as a whole, preferring its characterisation of Plankton and liking its comedy just a smidge more than its predecessor, even if the original has the stronger story and message. Otherwise, this is an incredibly solid ranking!
Yeah I feel like Sponge out of Water gets a bit too much hate. I feel like it does more unique stuff than the first movie which when you look at it is really just a glorified road-trip movie (a great one but still feels cliche). I also think the movie uses it’s cast better than the first movie as well as have a more entertaining villain (plankton is a bit too generic tbh in the first movie).
I do think the third act of the first movie makes the first one better than the second one, but I say it’s significantly closer than most claim
Its my story,
A toy story
-jacksfilms
Was not expecting that sound bite
I heard that a new studio was made with Nimona as their first movie. They will release 2 more soon, with a video game movie adaptation of “Stray” being one of them.
Highly recommend The Breadwinner, that and Wolf Walkers are both masterpieces in my eyes
I like this video but there is something missing. You forgot to add in Don Bluth's debut film, "The Secret of NIMH".
I have a very soft spot for Ice Age, the first 3 movies in particular but I did find enjoyment in the 4th one. I love Manfred's design and his journey throughout the saga from a troubled loner to a loving father given his past. It's also one of the few trio dynamics across animated movie franchises, with the only other competition being Finding Nemo, even if both moves has their titular characters separated. They use the Freudian Trio trope pretty well imo. I'm also a sucker for Scrat's antics and it's facinating seeing a 3D attempt at Looney Tunes style comedy this early into the medium's life. And the setting is still very unique to this day with very few other movies taking place in the time period.
Collision Course can go extinct for all I care though.
I absolutely love Klaus, I'm really glad it so high up on the list
Open season was my childhood 😭😭😭
I'm sorry for your loss
Secret of kells is my fav cartoon saloon and one of my fav animated movies ever
You know it’s funny, the only part of Coraline that scared me as a child that still uneases me the most to this day is the one open mouthed ghost girl. Don’t know what it is about it but it’s so creepy and uncanny with the way they designed her.
For me it was mostly just kinda creepy throughout I guess and also pretty scary and sad because of the themes of losing parents, but the scene with the mice in the circus show genuinely creeped me the fuck out, cuz the characters were so entertained but I just thought it was all so creepy. There will be creepy shit happening but the main character doesn’t see anything wrong with it. That’s why I think it’s so creepy, because we all relate to Coraline but when in the other world getting everything she wants, we see how truly twisted her desires are. Like the other Wybie being silenced by the other mother and staying quiet through the whole film Coraline sees nothing wrong with it, it’s unnatural and wrong for him to just be quiet forever but Coraline doesn’t notice, because that’s the way she wants it. She gets everything she wants and it’s creepy and wrong and unnatural, but she’s a child getting what she wants so she doesn’t even notice nor care at first.
Some shit like Chicken Rush before Ice Age is a straight up crime
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥! 😊😊
Atleast sponge out of water got SpongeBob out of its dark era until like season 13 premiered
Nickelodeon’s first animated movie is the Rugrats movie
the fact that the only Scottish character was not just an animal, but a fucking squirrel instead of a unicorn that is the most meticulously written character whose performance would make me cry so hard that I sob out my own brain is ridiculous
I am no longer joking when I say Scotland CANNOT GOD DAMN WIN 😭
Rorschach car is S tier
39:30 WHAT!??? You gotta watch it. I'm sure you'll understand why everyone considers Kevin Conroy to be THE Batman
Not a film, but a great animated DC project was the episode of Batman Beyond called Meltdown (guess who the villain was). You won’t need much context, maybe just a brief recap of what Mr Freeze did in Batman, the animated series and what little people remember from the Batman Beyond Death Battle.
Toy Story being this low is criminal
If Vanguard Animation’s Valiant was on here, it would probably be between Open Season and Antz.
I guess you can consider the Lego movie as the first Lego animated movie so yeah I think it counts
This video made me go down a rabbit hole of Biff Weed's Letterbox and his reviews of TMNT 1990 and Garfield are sending me
Speaking of TMNT, I think the 2007 movie from Imagi is missing from this list.
@@joshuaW5621 that movie was the coolest thing in the world for me
The entire dcamu is really good. I definitely think that the first movie is the best, but I wouldn't call any of the movies bad. I definitely recommend it.
I think you should have included the first animated films from Vanguard (Valiant) and the studio that currently has John Lasseter as its leader, Skydance (Luck). I think one of them would have been below Open Season.
I don't think I heard of Vanguard before. Excluding Skydance was a conscious choice, I am not getting anywhere near Luck
I would definitely recommend Batman the Animated Series if you liked Mask of the Phantasm
If it's any consolation, I watched Ice Age: Continental Drift numerous times, so I hope that evens out its disappearance from the IA part. Sad you're missing on Captain Gutt, but... still.
Good video, like these more interpretive scripts and videos, highlighting unusual topics. Movies neato, I think Tamatoa Guy (I'm not putting his full name) covered this, he hasn't, glad to have a fresh take on it. Thumbs up.
Captain Gutt was one of the few parts of the fourth movie I actually liked
I can’t believe I spent fifty minutes watching this
I was stockholm-syndromed into liking Open Season because i watched that movie like four times a year - I have two brothers who often didn't wanna watch the movies I wanted to and vice versa, but this was one we could usually agree on. Also i was a kid (3 when this one came out, though I don't think i watched it that young) so my humor was ass lol. I really remember liking the first... I don't know, ten minutes or so? Because i liked the bear's owner, but retrospectively I think I had a crush on her more than anything else
I haven't watched it in at least five years though, so I'd probably think differently nowadays
I’m with you on that Ice Age bit to where I liked the movie but the only thing I didn’t like was Scrat and that was because of only two things, A: his screaming, which makes my throat ache now because of it because man, imagine how many lozenges and all of that throat remedies they must’ve given to his VA for doing a lot of screams and to me, his scream alone from the first two movies alone to me sounded like they video taped a super crazy mother going through pain and suffering while in labor with a kid, like if they didn’t give him a voice/scream at all, I would’ve liked the character almost a whole lot and B: the way he looked in the first movie was scary to me and that was because of the animation a lone in that department, thank goodness both computers and its animation got a whole lot better throug time tho especially with how the other movies looked different than the first movie and that was alone because of the evolution of both the computer programming and it’s animation style as well!!! And I liked Sid but I agree with you that I liked/loved both Manny and Diego more than Sid, no offense to him tho but still, he’s an okay character in the end in my book and IMO, I like Sid way more than Scrat!!!
Wow... You hurt my heart!😢💔 Well at least I'm still better then the new characters from the ice age sequels, right?
i just gotta say- WATCH BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES. its fucking incredible, people are obsessed with it for good reason
One thing I will say about Open Season, while it is a terrible movie with so much missed potential, the backgrounds of it were surprisingly beautiful when I rewatched it as a joke with a friend.
My guess?
14. Open Season (C)
13. Antz (B-)
12. SpongeBob SquarePants: Sponge Out of Water (B-)
11. Ice Age (B)
10. Klaus (B)
9. Despicable Me (B+)
8. Castle in the Sky (B+)
7. Chicken Run (B+)
6. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (A-)
5. Coraline (A-)
4. The Lego Movie (A-)
3. The Secret of Kells (A)
2. Toy Story (A)
1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (A) (Judged by modern standards? Yeah, there's a lot wrong with it. ESPECIALLY on a script level. But, judged as The First Animated Movie Ever, as it pretty much is? Yeah, I can't get mad at any of the faults, really.)
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What I think about these films:
-Open Season: meh, but I feel nostalgic towards it.
-Antz: it's an ok movie, but Bugs Life is better.
-Sponge Out of Water: funny, but the final battle was kinda lame.
-Secret of Kells: never watched it.
-Snow White: it's alright.
-Ice Age: great movie, better than the sequels.
-Despicable Me: awesome 😎. Also, like Ice Age, its better than the sequels.
-Chicken Run: loved it.
-Toy Story: I love it, but I love Toy Story 2 more.
I had not watched the other films.
Lego Movie: AWESOME 😎
I saw Ice Age as an kid and did based on the start not expect much, but the movie started to grow on me fast and i loved it overall.
I Saw Despicable Me after being tired of minions everywhere, and was surprised how well they did fit in the first movie, also liked the plot and villain way more then expected
With Snow White, it is taking it slow and the ending is kinda fast, but the movie keeps having so much charm. I also do not think it has aged bad, only the pacing is very off for modern times, but i love some things like the Hunter arc, and the nightmare stuff, and the queen is great as a villain there.
The upcoming one keeps making fun of the old one while very likely being worse in most aspects and clearly lacking any charm
I’ve watched the Lego Movie too many times. But that’s why I also love it.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
I think he went word for word on Snow White when ls mark reviewed all the Disney movies
I don't think I've seen that video so any similarity there is coincidental
You forgot to include Ralph Bakshi's Fritz the Cat and Don Bluth's The Secret of NIMH.
The first films of an animation movie always get sequels
I feel like you should’ve put and watched at least Hakujaden (1958) since that was the debut film of Toei Animation (which is up there with Disney as one of the oldest animation studios in the world). Also, Open Season was mostly a guilty pleasure for me, even though Sony Pictures Animation have made far better movies since then.
For the DC animated films recommendations: Batman & Mr Freeze Sub-Zero, Teen Titans Trouble in Tokyo, Batman vs Dracula, Ninja Batman, Superman Unbound, Batman under the red hood, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, Justice League Flashpoint Paradox, Wonder Woman (2009),Superman Unbound, Batman/Superman public enemies, Batman & Superman World Finest and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and 2 are the ones I recommend in my opinion to watch cause it's so good. Also, yes watch batman the animated series and the rest of DCAU (DC Animated Universe) the animated companions Superman the animated series, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. It's basically DC's cinematic universe but good.
Ah yes a fellow fantastic mr fox enjoyer. Chad. Also my personal Laika ranking fyi:
1:ParaNorman 9/10 I rate it lower, but this is my favourite. Amazing twist and IMO the funniest Laika movie.
2:Coraline 9.5/10 You know why.
3:Kubo and the two strings 7/10 Pretty fun, good action, tho a little bit blue balled by the ending.
4:Missing Link 6.5/10 so yeah kinda predictable, but I think its the second funniest Laika movie.
5:Boxtrolls 6/10 not bad, but definitely my least favourite. With its main flaw being the one thing that drew me to Laika, its predictability.
Not gonna lie, it is a little funny to hear you critiquing the characters, romance, and plot of Snow White, which was... a very literal, one to one adaption of the fairy tale story. Yeah the prince doesn't have a character and the evil stepmother's plan is strange, that's how fairy tales be. that's not the important part of the story.
Personally, for this list of movies, Klaus and Castle in the Sky would be battling for first with Secret of Kells and Coraline close behind - which honestly just shows how my interests and preferences differ from yours!
As far as other Laika films - I'd say Paranorman is very very solid as well, perhaps more comparable in quality to Kubo than Coraline (I do agree that between the two, Coraline is the stronger movie - Kubo has some great qualities but also has some parts that fall fairly flat imo) - and Boxtrolls I enjoyed a lot but probably lags behind the rest. Still haven't seen missing link, personally
If they’re flaws with the original story then yeah it’s not a fault of Disney if that’s just what they had to work with. But that still means they’re directly adapting the parts that don’t work for me without doing much to improve on them.
I’ve been glad to see more support for Kells in the comments lately. I still like it but it’s cool to see how many more people really love it.
You're honestly not missing much by not rewatching the sequels for Ice Age, anything after 2 or maybe 3 if we're generous is a pretty bad nosedive in quality, the single redeeming quality being scenes with Buck.
Just seeing the first one is pretty much all the ice age you'll need.
I say 2 and 3 are the only ones that really matter. 4 and especially 5 just suck. Ice Age 1 feels pretty distinct from 2 and 3 tho so it’s probably better than watching the sequels
If you’re interested in more DC animated movies, Batman: Under the Red Hood is one of my favorites of all time. Would definitely recommend checking it out.
I used to _love_ Open Season as a kid, I then rewatched it when I was older and I kinda find it hard to watch now 😭the second one is better but I think the only watchable parts of it are the scenes with the dogs. Elliot is still a bit of a prick tho
The open season disrespect is uncalled for. That movie is peak 😭
Can you not say that the Lego Movie is a decade old so casually
The passage of time catches up to us all
I'm so with you on your hatred for Open Season. My younger sister used to watch it over and over and it always made me feel ill. Animation is ugly, characters are mean, gross-out humor. I don't even like to see footage of it lol
My favourite movie was ice age for blue sky and I enjoyed the movie high up
It could be argued that Nausicaa was actually the first Ghibli film, despite technically being released under Topcraft. Castle in the Sky was the first movie released by Studio Ghibli however.
A case can be made either way since Nausicaa got added to their lineup retroactively. I chose Castle in the Sky since it’d been years since I last saw it whereas I watched Nausicaa for the first time in December, plus Castle in the Sky is by far my preferred of the two
@@BiffWeed Fair
I was going to say that Sponge Out Of Water is not place 13 bad, but as soon as pkace 12 showed up yeah it checks out
Guess only Sony and DreamWorks were willing to put out the worst of the worst as their debut
For as much as I ragged on Antz I don’t think it’s anywhere near Dreamworks’ worst. I’ve also had my eyes opened to Surfs Up 2 so Sony can definitely go lower than Open Season
29:10 you know, Woody was actually written as unlikeable in the Black Friday trailer. Look it up sometime, it'll make you grateful for the version we got
Cheers mate
You forgot to mention if you hate the Ice Age baby or not
anyways good video, would love a similar one like maybe ranking every highest ranked movie from these studios (though probably not for a while since I imagine there'd be some overlap)
nice vid man
funny how there is a death battle reference in a non death battle vid
great video!
43:26 so I hate to break it to you Keith David has voiced a black talking cat twice now…