Oh how the mighty have fallen...
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- My D-Frame build was one of the most powerful PCs you could build in 2018... so how does it compare to todays "mainstream" PC tech?
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RIP EVGA and all the legendary SLI builds 😭
Second to last evga build
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we need to compare frame generation vs S.L.I.
I bet S.L.I is/was still faster.
@@kevinerbs2778 When it worked it was on par at best, but like Jay said, Nvidia's support for SLI was a joke, and the cost of entry to SLI was almost always higher than just investing that money towards a higher tier or faster single card.
Frame Gen technology is virtually free and can be adopted towards almost any hardware.
@@Cwayne1989 A big advantage of SLI was scalability. You didn't have to buy a more expensive single card when you could add another cheaper card. If frame gen was actually so good an SLI setup running frame gen would be even better.
It kind of does a great job showing how these expensive systems can relatively quickly be outdated in a short time period.
This is literally my system :/, spec wise, i built mine in 2019, its the first custom water loop I've built. Seeing all the new gen stuff kick my pcs ass, hurts a little XD
@@NMCustomsjust let it go because next gen should always beat old gen lol
It just means you have more bit farming machines.
6 years, not that short
Idk, this machine would still rip a lot of AAA games in 1080 and 1440 maybe
It's been 6 years?! Where TF did time go?
😆 I wonder that every year when New years comes back around.
I've been wondering the same
I don’t know either, in my mind it’s still 2020
... in the past. 😢
@mniakan754 Sometimes mine thinks it's 2010
Moral of the story, your cutting edge probably 5k USD+ build of today in 10 years will probably have the performance of a budget pc that costs 800 to 1000 usd.
And that budget pc price also already factors in Inflation. So the "value" will be even lower than the 800-1k build.
Well, yeah
Whats really crazy is if you think about it processors 12 years ago were around 100-200 dollars for the top of the line maybe 300. Now its 700-900. Graphics cards like the 1080 was 399, but no you can buy cards that put the 1080 to shame. i.e 6600x, 2070 for like same price. But you can actually double or even tripple the perfromance if you spend 1,000 on graphics card. Unfortunatley even a ryzen 5 5600x = 150 dollars. Released 4-5 years ago. Building a system today will run you around 700-800 dollars. Where 2012 it would of been around 500-600.
Well to comment on your statement, pc parts today or released 3 years ago is still keeping its value longer then it did before. 4090 been out for a couple of years now and it increased in price lol.
@@reaverdropper2997 yeah but they are sitting in shops. we all wait and see the 5000 serie cards
13:04 That’s Jay’s “I’ve been water cooling PCs before you were even born” face
I remember this build. You thought it was crazy using all those angle adapters going from the GPU to the CPU block, but it worked. If it's dumb, and it works, it's not dumb.
In this case I agree. In general tho, dumb but works is still dumb.
Im not sure if i'm the only one, but if you do revive this build I think you should do a modern version. rtx 3090s and 3090 ti's still support SLI and with the return of threadripper consumer chips you can still fit 8 sticks of ram in. It would be really impractical and Insanely expensive but it would still pay homage to the previous build while adapting it for more modern times
Your iFixit Ad is the only one I enjoy watching and I don't jump through!
Perfect illustration of there is no such thing as "future-proofing". Build the computer that you need today and next year, and replace it every four to five years.
It might be old, but still looks amazing - Pascal has really held its own all these years, I retired my 1080Ti back in April after a solid 7yrs and hope the 4070Ti Super gets me another 7yrs.
12gb vram isn’t lasting 7 years 😂
@@lucasjames8281 you spend too much time on reddit.
@@lucasjames8281 That card is 16GB VRAM
@@lucasjames8281 it has 16GB
@lucasjames8281 the 4070 ti super has 16 gigs of vram.
"2080 6 years ago"
I'm still rocking a 1070... Its that old now? 😅
my plex pc has a 560 ti lol
1080 ti is 7 years old
Just upgraded from a 1050ti to a 6700xt a month ago, I really didn't think my beloved 1050ti was that old already
@@IsTheOrderASapling thanks. i was feeling bad about my 3900x and 2080ti system but you made it better ;)
I have a GTX745...
Whatever fluid you used, did not seem to stain the glass at all either for just sitting for so long. That is impressive
what's more impressive to say it was his daily for awhile and then just sat around not being switched on, it mixed back up pretty damn well. Would be interested in the state of the blocks etc when it's emptied
I used a Titan X for a couple of years, it was a very capable card. It got sold for an insane amount of money to a guy who was rendering animation. I got a secondhand water force 1080ti after, similar vram but significantly faster clock speed.
I'd kill for that green pc. My asus motherboard died 4 months ago and now I'm daily driving a 20 year old laptop. Life sucks.
im online too much.
yeaaah
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We all are
Same. Been watching more nature videos and gardening stuff for a change of pace and then it occurred to me that it's the same thing since I'm still watching videos online.
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Can't believe this is from 6 years ago! I remember thinking this build was one of the baddest PCs I'd ever seen. Time flies man.
Me still rocking my EVGA Hydrocopper GTX 1080. 😎
Should get kingpin
I love this! I bought a D frame 2 off the back of this build. I bought a white one with blue accents. I still use it to this day and it's been through several iterations. Good to see the old girl is still alive!
I ended up on this channel because of this build
saw an ad for a D frame locally and KNEW it was good but wanted to see it reviewed and HAVE a EVGA Dark X299 motherboard that was to "copy this build"
build never happened and the X299 is still "new in box" )-:
So glad to see you feeling better and I can see your energy and enjoy your enthusiasm!
I remember the "Terry Crews" build. That was a good video. Crews seems super likeable and really solidly into PC stuff. So I cannot believe I have been a Jay's 2 cents follower for like seven years. Wow.
6:00 I bet it's because it reminds you of popping the hood of a car :)
WAKE UP NEW JAY VID JUST DROPPED
As someone who was on an old box for a decade (coming from the old i7-920) days this is fantastic! No one will understand how we feel, unless they themselves have walked the long mile in our shoes. bravo good sir!
Jay. Maybe consider leaving that system together for a while for nostalgia reasons. Maybe use it again for testing again in the future. The best then vs the best now.
Still love that case. It's timeless
We need more of these actually
"Worked last time I used it" is also car speak for "ran when parked" lol
OMG,,,, awsome comment 👍👊
Awesome video !! Love this kind of content !!
That is such a cool case and an awesome build! Flashback to the golden age of pc building with SLI and EVGA! lol
Omg I remember the vid of you building this. Time flies.
I love these videos with older gaming PCs. It really hits my nostalgia because these were the systems I wanted before I could actually afford to build a system. I am thinking of building my 2015-2018 dream PC that I couldn't afford then! Keep showing some of these
Man i remember the day this build was originally posted on the channel. Where has time gone, still a beast of a build in an awesome case
Be well all
Repeatedly tells us not to blow air direct through fans when cleaning and let them just spin as it can build up electricity.
Proceeds to do exactly that
Was wondering where the leaf blower was.
To be fair normal person can't afford to have their hardware ruined unlike Jay. He's got so much hardware sitting around he'd be just fine. For the normal person such a risk is a big deal.
@JayzTwoCents I started watching your channel because of your IFix-it adds I still love them and you have more tech tips then LTT does now
so good to see you having fun again Jay and not wore out im going thru the wore out phase myself but high depression 4 me
Jay should honestly , each time he builds his yearly over the top personal pc, take a high quality photo and frame it and give it Employe of the year , then hang them on the wall like Ancestral paintings
Rebuild it and that chassis is cool for the age.
I too remember this one. I was looking to build a system and was watching custom build videos and watched that one.
Feels like its just a couple of years I watch this video. then realized when you check the video date. its the same time I build my first gaming pc and starting to watch your channel.
The fact that that pc (minus the water cooling) is only worth a few hundred dollars today is insane. For context the titans are $140-150 usd today. An x299 board is $120. A 18 core i7 is $200 usd.
Fuckin insane how high end hardware depletes in value
That means a coin farming rig is cheaper too.
@@cgjoh Crypto mining is a scam not worth the electricity
Hardware don't have to deplete in value. All depends on if the end user's needs are met - with the activities/ tasks they are busy with. So perspective does matter. :)
High end? CPUs were stagnated in most cases deliberately to gatekeep higher cores for higher prices. Nvidia if they wanted they could have passed efficiency cost savings down to the consumer but they chose not to. Prices have been inflated higher for greater profits and since people kept paying higher prices... they kept going up. The same applies to thousand dollar smartphones.... which have no msd card slot and headphone jack....
@@amirshahab3400 Nobody said it has to deplete in value.
And here I'm still running an 8600k and a 1070ti from late 2017.
lol 8700k and a 2080 that replaced my exploded 1080, its about time to upgrade for us
8600k AND 1080TI here
Just built a new PC, was rocking a 1070 and a 7700k
@@rjkent5 1080Ti is the GPU that many call Nvidia's best just because of how long it has remained capable of running a game at reasonable settings.
Still running a RX580, but upgraded to a 5700X from a 1700X.
I’ve been watching your videos for a very long time jay! Been a subscriber for very long I think atleast 9 years now. Thanks for this video loved it felt just like old times!! Keep up the great work!
Wait, did Jay spin the fans while cleaning with the dust machine at 3:00.... 😇😁🤣
You kids, "look at the old titan build, lol".
I still have my first PC build. 8088, with 16 color EGA monitor, built (assembled) in 1988.
I still have an old gaming pc with an Intel X980 which is dated 2008. I just upgraded the GPUs, for many years, say 2010-2015 Intel CPUs were upgraded incrementally and the X980 held it’s own. PCIe made this possible to keep upgrading GPUs.
OMG your moving ! I can so easily remember you moving in there not that long ago and shuffling desks around etc lol
Hey Jayz, I just wanted to tell you that you're doing an AMAZING job! I've been with you since I was a kid and always admired your setups and knowledge of the PC Master race. It has been so inspiring and continues to be every time I watch your videos. Thank you for everything man.
ooh man, what a sick throwback, for a while, this was one of my fav builds that you did.
Bring it back! This build is so SICK!
well then my 1070 build is like from prehistoric ages, and still letting me rock my games at medium at least on more and less actual games
I remember watching those videos as soon as they dropped and yes it was exciting times, I had SLI and a triple monitor setup, but support dropped off for all of those great things and definately less exciting nowadays. Great memories. Can't believe I have been watching you for 7 years!
Jay, Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I remember watching you build this back in the loft studio. I recently recreated my first HEDT from 2013. Hit a rough patch back in 2016 (health issues) and lost most of my possessions. ASUS Z97-PRO MB, i7 4770K, 32GB 2866 RAM Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO double fans! EVGA 670 in SLI 850W PSU (New rig twin NVIDIA founders 1080 Ti). Windows 7 Pro Cooler Master HAF full tower with 360mm Fan on top. Plexi side panel and 2 count em, 2 DVD drives. Now Windows 11 Pro after installing TMP 2.1 to MOBO. Run older games made for SLI; FAR CRY 3, Dishonored, and yes it can run CRYSIS!. Hope you're feeling better, saw your hematological update VID. God bless you and your family.
2014/2015 I dropped 10 grand on an 4790k based EVGA Classified Z97 (got 4900 and occasionally 5000 MHz), monster 1600 EVGA modular power and 4 Nvidia 780ti's in SLI, water-cooled. Converted to 2 1080ti's shortly after that. Still have that system and it still kicks butt. I fire it up ever now and again when the laptops are misbehaving and I need something done. And it takes me back to my benchmarking days and watching JayzTwoCents for all the cutting edge hardware content. Special days, special memories.
I miss these Builds! Start doing this builds again! I really enjoy your custom builds.
That’s so good to see how old tech is performing nowadays. While the Titans are lagging behind, they retain some value. Thank you for sharing!!
That still looks amazing! Your "old" computer is still years newer than mine. I'd kill to have something like that. Then again, I built mine with all used parts (except HD) and barely spent $250.
I started buying parts for my current rig in 2017. I still need to get a a few more fans and some fittings, but my rig is going to last me for the next 5 years.
it feels i literally just last year i built my rtx2080ti amd 2700x system, and then POW, its been 6 years
16:20 just a random npc teleporting out of nowhere to hitch a ride at 50mph.. lol cyberpunk glitches are awesome! Glad you got that on camera.
Awesome to see, I still rock my In-Win Dframe exact same color. My PSU's capacitor's are busy trying to escape so would love to do a PSU rebuild to keep the housing true to the dframe.
Ooh, I love these! I do this myself with older rigs too. Look at it later see how it is.
X299s are still my main build. Finally, a video relevant to me. Thanks Jay and team!!
I love looking back at older builds and how they perform in today's workloads and games. Very fun!
I was just thinking about the InWin D-Frame like a week or so ago. And now we have Jay looking at an old D-Frame build.////
I remember this build. I was just getting into building PCs and was consuming everything i could, even though this was well outside of my budget and skillset.
Such a great build, thanks for the trip down memory lane.
Jay, Im not even kidding, this is beautiful. It would outperform my current system I use for orchestral music writing, plus, is gorgeous. I used to feel like PCs were about form, stick it somewhere, use it, who cares what it looks like, but this system sings to me in the way it looks. Sure, the specs might be dated, but for my meager needs, outside of needing more memory (I need 64 gb minimum, pref 128), this would do everything I need and more, plus the dual SLI setup would make my preferred reverb engine, MIR 3D Pro, run like a dream
love the look of that system
While _you_ might not have been into 3D printing in 2018, I would consider it both cheap and mainstream back then. We started getting 4k resin printers, monochrome screens and some nicer features on the midsize printers back then in the $5-800 range (considerable cheaper than the commercial models in the $2k+ for an entry level), and you could build a 48" tall delta printer for $400.
2007 on the other hand, it was still pretty niche.
Add: In PC history, I had SLI 400 series GPUs and GPU rendering in real time was in its infancy. There, made it relevant to the channel. 😁
I remember the first SLI rig I had was 3DFX Voodoo 2 babe back in 1998! Back then SLI was Scan Line Interleave.
I remember watching you build this years ago! That’s crazy
Man this was a blast from the past. Right when I started watching you, because I was planning a pc build. I held out for a year and ended up going Ryzen 3000 series then and still rocking that computer. I keep thinking I’m going to do another but it’s still going strong after a gpu swap.
Got my gaming mat/ Looks great. Thanks man.
Phil turning in that chair looking like a future bond villian lol
I was wondering what happened to this build. I remember the 1st video you put out and seeing the finished PC thinking 'wow that's a cool case design and concept! Still looks good today.
Such an Awesome build still! I Love your excitement. I Love building PC's too but it's so expensive now I just can't afford it as a hobby now with my Son!
All 30 of us at the shop just got our Moray kits last week. We all love it.
I have the same case (but in gold) and I still love her like the first day ❤❤❤
i just started watching your channel when you built this bad boy, got me into water cooling officially back in the day
Always nice to look back at SLI being popular to have in your set up compared to now.
I'm impressed that your old setup was able to boot up and operate decently despite being idle for years. It's amazing how these old systems can still work somewhat efficiently, even though the components are obsolete.
Holy shit, i just realized how long iv been watching you man... that build made me feel old...
I just want to say, while i didn't see the original build, this is still a good looking PC. I for one love the look.
I remember watching you do the build video of this system.
The classic ifixit sponsored segment, something not only you don't mind watching through, but you find yourself mouthing along xD major kids adverts on nickelodeon vibes
Uuuu, new studio. Cannot wait.
I mean, what's stopping you from bringing back this era of youtube videos? Doing nuts builds, or fun unique builds, etc?
Like, there's so much more variety in cases, more manufacturers (even if some are just 011 clones lmao), there's so many cases from the past few years, with all the unique blocks and systems that I think it could probably make a comeback
8:20 "60 is all we got back then even in sli" I'm sorry Jay but sometimes stuff you say... ^^ This card has DP 1.4a, the card is perfectly capable of running 4k 144hz
I love the EVGA box in the background that says Not 4090 🤣
This takes me back. My first gaming rig was one I built in a clear case, 2x GeForce FX cards (I think?). I can't even remember, cause it was over 20 years ago. I learned several valuable lessons from building that rig. The most important: being an early adopter of new tech sucks. Jeez did SLI suck when it was just released. The gain from SLI was most noticeable from the power-consumption.
6 years ago what the hell. I remember that video when it came out.
I remember when you were building that. Cannot believe 6 years. Where.
Until 2 weeks ago, my daughter was still using my old Pc from 2013 with a i5 Ivy- Bridge, delidded and under an Ek Waterblok direct die cooling. Had benchmarked that CPU to 5.2 GHz, and was running it stable over all the years on 4.9 GHz The system was also running with 2 AMD HD7870 in Crossfire, i am still amazed how long that pc was running nicely, greetings from Belgium
That's insane. I knew it would be quite a bit faster but that's nuts lol
That is still a badass PC. Jay Rocks
@JayzTwoCents
Jay, that glorious rig deserves some new hotness! Hit it up good sir!!
Well it may not be that fast but boy is it beautiful.
Man thats a beautiful case. I live that metal frame.
The iFixIt Intro never gets old love it. DAYUM THAT BUILD
Just took apart my old one to get some stuff for my PC area.... found my old GTX 960 , good times , bet that card could still run great on my 1080p screen