I have to stop using my EVGA 4090...
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- I have been using my EVGA 4090 for a year and a half in an open PC case... of course it got complete full of dust so I needed to completely tear it apart to clean it...
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That's some hefty swamp gooch
Oh yeah you truly know that!!!
The greatest technician that ever lived out in the wild😂
Pff that's a light dusting compared the gooch "The greatest technician that's ever lived" dives into.
Wouldn't even have to steal my moms toothbrush for that piddly job, I'd let him borrow it.
@SalemTechsperts He even took your mother’s toothbrush.
Jay you should go to your mothers bathroom to check if her toothbrush is still there.. 😂👌
Love the "be fucking productive" wallpaper lol
He probably missed it
Had the same thought lol
Haha me too!
fuck being productive (the misprinted version)
I saw that immediately and love it! I too have to give myself little hidden reminders inn various places that difficult to avoid, wallpaper, screensavers, fridge, post-it in the car, on my PS5 controllers, in my lab space. My brain will jump through hoops finding anything it can to distract rather than stay on-task and get the important things done.
You all remember Kingpin, the gpu overclocker that made special-edition cards for EVGA? Good news is that he's reportedly returning to gpu manufacturing for the 50 series. He's eyeing a potential partnership with PNY for his return.
Edit: when I commented this at the time, I didn't see that GN made a video on this too.
Yah his gamers nexus video
If you listened to what he said in steves video he said a good possibility he didnt say that he has signed with anyone as of yet
@@davidsmyth3818 read between the avoiding breaking NDA lines.
If he signs and the cards don't come out as KingPNY.
I'll fricking mald.
PNY will become the top brand soon.
EVGA: We are not making GPUs anymore
Also EVGA: Here Jay, an EVGA 4090
right? Super envious!
Card: Barely has any dust whatsoever
Jay: This is filthy as hell, all covered in dust and stuff. Need to take it apart.
I have an EVGA FTW 980Ti . It runs GREAT! (Win XP legacy system for old work software.)
I have an EVGA FTW3 1080Ti . It runs GREAT! (Win7Pro legacy system for old games.)
I have an EVGA FTW3 3080Ti . It runs GREAT! (Win10Pro for current games. Last Win system ever)
I MISS EVGA. I wish them nothing but good things and they definitely "got out" when the gettin'-was-good but man....... I do miss them.
Peaceful Skies.
I still use my EVGA 1080 hybrid. I swear, I must have ended up with the superhero version, because I hear people using WAY better GPUs having issues with performance on things I just don't have issues with.
WOW!
Weirdly intimate relationships people have with corporate companies.
Love my 1080ti ftw3 been rocking since 2018 and still going today
@@Mcnooblet you clearly dont buy your own stuff.
There is never a pointless video talking about EVGA graphics cards.
It will serve as reminders what we all have lost
"It belongs in a museum!" - Dr. Indiana Jones
"We named the dog Indiana." - Dr. Henry Jones
"He's named after a dog? Haha! " - Sallah
“I told you… _DON’T_ call me Junior”
Ezreal
So do you😂
EVGA made the best video cards!!😢
Yes. I only bought EVGA. It was always the best looking (in my opinion)
@@CurieBohr EVGA always went for a more elegant yet badass look that looks to curvature over linear geometry when designing there housing for video cards. EVGA FTW!!!
Too bad man, I loved all my EVGA cards, too. They are slowly dissolving the entire company tho.
EVGA was my go to card from the beginning. I wish they would have stayed in the video card business.
They rarely made the BEST cards. They usually made the bare minimum like Zotac, sometimes even for their FTW3 series. Their customer service though was 2nd to none and this is why I bought them. Usually and lately, ASUS made the best cards, incl the TUF
So Jay just got a PNY 5090Kingpin ,but he is not allowed to show it :)
Maybe in a year or so. Vince is just getting started with them.
Pogchamp!
My son has my EVGA 3090 when I moved to a 4090. EVGA cards were so great!
+100 Dad points for giving him that card
@@snxc1627 yeah but he might be a lil spoiled The opposite happened with me I get rtx 4060 and I gave my dad my rx 580 and power supply but its a power supply from 2009
"So much dust in there." It's doesn't look like the dryer lint screen after a load of towels, so no that's not a lot of dust. I have literally pulled a sheet of dust off a buddy's computer before.🤣
Yep, I have dust filters in my PC case and my radiator, after just one year, was all grey. It's not as much as other people's PCs have collected but it massively affects the temperatures for sure. I wish they had shown how Jay blew compressed air on the heatsink, and how much dust came out of there.
"So disgusting"
-Looks at my fans...
boy have i got a treat for you. lmao.
I have a friend who's PC within months would get like that and it got into everything. The CPU, GPU and PSU intake all had a layer a few mm thick dust on anything air should flow through
I pulled an entire dust bunny from my old 2012 laptop's blower fan
Good timing. I did this to my EVGA 3060 yesterday preparing for summer.
I've been using a vacuum cleaner to clean out my PC's for years, and I've haven't killed anything yet. It's fine to vacuum fans, and heatsinks just don't let the vacuum spin up your fans as that will create a voltage that the card would have to sink. I use a large makeup brush to get into places, and displace the dust with the vacuum tube close by. Just don't touch bare PCB's with the vacuum or the brush, and be aware that the vacuum tube itself can potentially build up a static charge from all of the dust passing over it.
You sound like you have watched a lot of Jay’s two cents videos
I used a leaf blower for years. Recently, I did that outside. Killed my motherboard. Not sure how, but I’ll never do it again.
The fan’s producing voltage only happens if they happen to spin in one direction and they have to be a certain type of fan design anyway. Besides it’s a non-issue as there are diodes that prevent voltage backfeeding into to GPU so this concern is moot.
In other words it’s a myth that just won’t go away.
@@South_0f_Heaven_true. Diodes, voltage regulators, the “ground wire”, capacitors all are safeguards.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ Magnets moved over coils produce a voltage regardless of direction. Yes, there should be diodes but they are only good upto a certain voltage. If for some reason you exceed that voltage, bad things will happen. I killed a 3d printer motherboard once by just moving the bed too quickly. Same thing.
On the topic of brushes for cleaning tech, I actually use a blush makeup brush. The bristles are nice and soft and won't damage any caps or anything but tough and won't break off.
It looks like Jay got one of these Evga rtx4090 cards, Remember! Evga is out of graphic cards business but they made a very limited number of the 4090 cards and some of these were actioned for more than 10K USD. He decided to open it up because the card was a little bit dusty, the fans blades and the heatsinks were a little bit dusty.
Nobody would open up a card like that just for that reason....
The time it takes to disassamble tells alot about the build quality in my experience. That card seems god tier and there would have been some very happy customers, dear EVGA ...
I like the wallpaper on the PC in the background...
Steve from Gamers Nexus interviewed Kingpin about the 12VPHWR Connector: Jay may one of the few Burnproof RTX 4090's. Putting the Power connector on the Side of the Card has some Drawbacks, like bigger and long power Conduits, but is has one Bonus: It keeps the Powerconnector cooler, and EVGA has figured the Problem of the Overheating Powerconnector out: When it gets to warm it starts hotspotting and dies, moving it to the side keeps it cooler. The 12VPHWR has only a 10% reserve at 20°C which means at 45°C it runs out of Reserve and may start melting. Getting the Connector away from the Heatsource, like EVGA did, reduces the risk of burning Adapter. Kingping confirmed to Steve that EVGA new about the Risk and it looked cleaner.
EVGA also used 3 pin connectors on the pcb of the 3090 cards, which they would have used in the 4090's. Using 3 pin connectors instead of trying to shove all that dangerously high amps through a singular tiny fragile connector meant that all 3 pin connectors are sharing the load into one thirds. Ironically, EVGA would have swept the market for this series card because everyone would be clamouring for the only brand that had burnproof 4090 cards. Jay undoubtedly has one of the few burnproof cards in the world.
EVGA 3090ti cards have these connectors on the end too and I've never heard of one melting even when pulling the full 600 watts.
@@luminatrixfanfictionEVGA 3090 Ti’s have a 12VHP plug on the side of the GPU and they work just fine.
I personally own one and know this to be fact so your statement is not factually correct.
Mine came with an adapter which is a 3 PCIE into 1 12VHP angled connector that works just fine. Checked the temperature of the plug and the temperature is no different then a PCIE power plug so zero issues and not a thought ever enters my mind about it burning up.
The ones that burn up are from user error. Not plugged in all the way, tension on the plug, XOC VBIOS being used that draw more current then the plug is rated at, using PSU’s that don’t provide enough current, etc.
This notion that they will all burn up needs to end as it’s based on bad information then the internet ran with it blowing it out of proportion without including relevant details as to why some burned up.
Regular user that has the plug seated properly with no 800 watt XOC VBIOS installed or any of the other factors I mentioned will never have a problem.
@@South_0f_Heaven_ Perhaps I meant the 3080's. You're not factually correct however, the ones burning up is not user error. That's been debunked multiple times. There's more than 50 amps being shoved through fragile connector cable and pin connectors that was rated for only a certain voltage and current. The theoretical limit is not the same as a real world application limit. They built it with 12VHP in mind based off the theoretical limit, not real world limit, not accounting for impurities in the copper wiring (which causes electrical resistance). That resistance directly translates to heat energy waste, hence the burning connectors. Ergo, a design fault. The 4090's which got fixed at Northridge, are going to continue needing to get it repaired and connectors replaced every six months. Also, your 3090 won't draw as much power compared to a 4090, so you won't have that issue.
@@ffwastthe connectors on the 30 series were different from the standardized 13vhp.
I'd like to see a teardown maintenance tutorial on graphics cards. Specially how you go about figuring out and buying the correct sizes(thickness) of thermal pads. I'd like to convert my Asus 1080ti from water blocked back to air cooled. But I have no clue how to replace the thermal pads, where to put them, what size goes where, etc.
Your best starting point is to find a guide with pics from someone tearing the card down to clean or put a block on it to see where the pads go, then see if you can find info on the specific cards pad thicknesses(ram and VRM often use different pad), or measure/guesstimate from your old pads if you have 'em. Keep in mind one size thicker is usually fine, one thinner might not be. Good luck. I had to do the same but with a GTX-680 a long time ago, had a watercooled pair, then one went flaky and I swapped the whole setup to a 1080, and then needed the good 680 for a secondary rig, I found an old forum thread about a guy wateblock swapping the same card asking the same thing since he ripped a pad.
The way Jay caressed the EVGA build with his thumb...
I live beside a port and obviously also a busy street. After a month of an open air system(just the panels removed) you can mesure the dust with a ruler.
I respect wanting the card to get actually used, and I also totally understand wanting to stop using it now. On a sort of related note... I saw in the last Steve Nexus video where he was at Kingpin's lab, and Kingpin was working with a PNY 4090 (iirc). Maybe PNY will fill the high end quality GPU void that EVGA left? It would be awesome if some company went back to making //quality// GPUs that could handle XOC versus just making BLING cards.
Other companies do make extreme overclocking cards.
Wipe the fan blades with a piece of paper towel with ipa on It , works great. I also use a toothbrush to do the Initial cleaning, gets into small places well.
Forgot how sick that rig came out. Not only is the whole build drippin, but that card is constructed from pure unobtanium.
fr
Its Not a Pointless Video Jay. Its a Video to Show Us What EVGA Could of Done. I Owned a Few EVGA Cards over the Years.
Does anyone also think Jay will become a PNY fanboy now that KingPin is designing KingPin PNY cards?
We are going to need GamersNexus to test out their RMA process and warranty. I've seen enough reports online that they will never replace EVGA. No second hand warranty coverage, warranty void stickers (and people claiming denied because of it) told warranty will be voided from maintenance (paste and pads changed)
Depends how good the cards are.
Absolutely. I surprised he hasn't already started with PNY videos. With that said though im glad to see KP partner with PNY, if its happening, that will be a great fit. He can push their company further down the Gaming PC enthusiast rabbit hole. They are respected in the professional world, so hopefully they can continue in the enthusiast market.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 Gamers Nexus had a good video, kind of funny watching him fanboy over GamersNexus merch. Good interview, recommend people watch. (After they watch Jayz videos first! 😉
I just cleaned my Graphics card with Brake Kleen after taking it out of the case. It works and evaporates, you can also use Contact Cleaner or even soapy water as long as you dry it properly after. I also used Deoxit on the ports and any small spots of corrosion.
That's quite clean for 1-1.5yrs of use.
You can retire it in my computer :)
4:31 isn’t that thermal putty?
Also the paste job shouldn’t matter because it looks like it’s using the phase change material stuff everyone’s moving towards now
8:40 yeah I thought so too when I took apart a legion Slim 7 and repasted, and the temperature was worse. Guess what? It had PTM7950 in there that performs and lasts way longer than paste. But hey, temps at the end of the day was great with KPX though
Yeah, thought so as well
Looks like PCM on the core to me as well and chokes(did he call them caps?) are using thermal putty. Surprised to see him seemingly oblivious to these.
Jay, If your A/C filter is not cutting the dust down enough then invest in some room air filters. I have two in my home and it is amazing how much dust they collect.
That wallpaper behind Jay in the intro is awesome👍👍
Did u hear???? Kingpin iz back
MAYBE, I don't think his PNY deal is finalized yet
Kingpin isnt back yet his deal isn’t finalised. Also the EVGA 4090 is more like their FTW3 GPUs than kingpin
@@ThePrimordialArchon he is looking so he is planing to come bacl
@@koky179 planning doesnt mean his deal with PNY is finalised. PNY can pull out and he’d have to spend another year looking.
Either way once hes back his cards should be the true top of the line
@@ThePrimordialArchon planning does not mean it will be pny
Man, videos like this really make me want to take apart the used 3080 that I bought last year because I really feel it's getting pretty warm rather easily. I'm just real scared I might end up just making things worse or maybe even break it.
not sure what the concern was, really.. that's nothing in terms of dust accumulation.
but I get that you wanna preserve it. there's a good Jay.
I wish to have a EVGA 40xx card aswell.
My favorite custom design company. I still cant get over the fact that they are gone.
Any chances that they will work with AMD or Intel?
Imagine the new battlemage flagships with EVGA custom designs. I defenitely need to buy that if something like this comes out.
Highly unlikely. Kingpin was also pretty clear when he said "EVGA is gone".
Very sad...
None of the people doing that work there anymore.
Kingpin implied he is going to PNY for 5000 series.
@@WayStedYou that sound really good. Lets hope they listen to him and we get a "new" EVGA quality from PNY.
@@chasethefeel Have you ever held a consumer PNY product in the past few years? Contrary to what your perception of their consumer products are, they're very well made, just without the frills and BS you get from the other manufacturers.
They're also (and have been since forever), a big player in the enterprise space as well. If anything I'm surprised people aren't digesting this and realizing they're the only OEM partner with the least BS. It in turns hurts their marketing appeal, but that's what make this speculated move for KingPNY so great.
It's saddening on many levels, one of which being it's simply the best looking one they ever made. Just simple, straight forward, no "gamer" bs, just business.
Man I miss EVGA good members with them, great company, great customer service, Sad to seen them leave.
I bought my son an NZXT prebuilt. It’s rock solid.
I don't feel quite as bad now. My 5700XT that I just tore apart and cleaned for the first time after 4 years didn't look as bad as your 4090. I even smoke and live in El Paso, where we get a lot of dust, wind, and everything else that goes along with living in the desert.
I use a Makeup Brush for cleaning the single wings in my fans and it works great, it is soft, the brush-lenght is about an inch.
Love the wallpaper on the screen behind Jay.
Sick build Jay. Long live EVGA. Good to see u in good health. Also side note are u going to make a video about kingpin?
Can we also appreciate the EVGA logo in the pass through hole, that's awesome!
Just bought the Ifixit tool kit can't wait for it to arrive love you show I've learned so much just from watching thanx buddy PS and you're funny
Consider something like a JET Air Filtration System. Comes with a remote you could turn it off the system during filming. ....Just a thought.
I bought Ifixit kit like four years ago and I love it
Same here. It’s useful for all kinds of things. Last I used it on my stove fan to open it and clean it since it used an unusual screw.
Love my 4090 tuff. I also love not having to worry about upgrading for a long time/playing their evil game.
7:18 Maybe not performance (much, or noticeable at all) but the sound will change. The extra weight from the dust and not being able to move through the air smoothly causes it to use a tiny bit more power and sometimes spin slower. Sometimes, a can of air can make it worse, by cleaning one or two blades well and the other not so well, and causing an imbalance, and thus vibrations.
😢I serviced 1 that had a solid eighth inch of silt everywhere, heatsink, case, psu everywhere!and it still ran fine. Pulled it completely apart, including the psu , and put them in the bathtub. Had a hand wand and used Dawn dish soap. Flushed the circuit b oards with iPad and all was good.
@5:32 "Thanks, Steve!"
Coway makes a great little air purifier AP1512HH. It has cut down the dust in my office by 80%+.
15 year commercial air conditioning tech and I have never seen a commercial unit not be filtered. You got something funny going on there brother
Yeah Jay, I'm in the desert too plus I have cats. Keep the filters clean.
Why not install an air filter unit of some sort for that work room? Would eliminate alot of those contaminants you spoke of.
Hey, I've had (supposedly) PTM that went just like that after a few heat cycles, almost flaky, solid, pushable but distributed quite evenly and thin. Was malleable, goopy, sticky on install just days prior.
Can it be fake? Can it be that this 4090 was assembled with it?
It looks absolutely identicla to the strix cooler. Like identical. Also please never reccomend for everyone to do this to clean there gpu. Most people shoupd never open them up because alot dont know what they are doing and couod do serious damage. But other then that awesome video.
Also they all look like this so they are all good none are dumb lol. It looks the same as every other 4090. Slightly different due to samples but its a 4090 lol we actually have even bigger heatsinks in some but idk how this one is less dumb then the others. The others perform if not a little better so yeah.
RIP EVGA, never forgotten. Long Live KingPiN and PNY
RIP EVGA :(
Happy to see ya making sure to take care of the card ya got :3
52c is nice and all, but 75% fan speed? If it's the same fan speed as 3090, then your fans are spinning at 2,250RPM, that's LOUD. I get the EVGA circlejerk but noise-normalized that's not better than Gigabyte/ASUS models
New paste and thermal pads for my 3090FE. It's thermals are so much better.
I think this is the first time I have noticed that wallpaper, I like it.
Maybe FILTERED AC and airlock-like building access? If you know what the problem is, you can cure/ameliorate it.
It is by far the best looking 4090 that was (n)ever build
I miss EVGA, I have an EVGA 3080 in my vpin and just picked up an EVGA RTX 2080 ti for $200 today that is going to go into my arcade cabinet in place of a 3060 ti. Not big diff in performance but much more historic card. I also just picked up a used PC lot with 2 EVGA z370s(honestly not very good MBs), and EVGA 2070 and 2 EVGA PSUs. I think the guy I bought the lot from had thing for EVGA(more than me). They really shined in the GPU space.
Hi Jay,
Nice video as usual, but want to mention that thermal paste on this gpu is phase change material (same as on ftw3 3090), and "paste" on the inductors is laird tputty (liquid thermal pad, same as on ftw3 3090), and its better to be replaced with thermal putty or soft thermal pad.
Just for your information))
Honestly this is a crazy idea I had, but I really want Buildzoid from AHOC to see this card and do a PCB breakdown. Nice collab idea. I think Jay would be extremely impressed and possibly barely able to understand.
09:48 That hurt when you scraped the bent fins with the screwdriver instead of straightening them with a plastic wedge! 😧
i'm glad Kingpin is planning to return, i would love if he considered either AMD or Arc as well
All HVAC systems commercial/residential has filters so you should have a HVAC tech to come out and check your unit.
If you're just going to put it on the wall for decoration why would you feel bad if it stopped working 🤣
The best way to honor a system is by using it not by putting it on display to rot. If you had a nice car, would you put it for display only or would you use it to honor it?
I wish EVGA would've sent me one. I had one EVGA card (3060) and it was hands down my favourite card I ever had for various reasons. Then a month later they made their announcement.
i am in desperate need of a tear down, cleaning, and rebuild of my PC. I planned on repasting my CPU, but hadn't considered trying to tear down my GPU. Maybe I'll get around to it this weekend...?
Jay would you be willing to do a cable management video? not in case but under desk, my stuff is A MESS and can never figure out a good way to tuck things and stuff
My 2080 Ti FE had that same kind of retention bracket on the stock cooler.
Jay, do you advise the hobbyist/home builder to remove and disassemble their GPU and repaste? Why did you decide to change from paste to pads? I don't understand the use case difference. Thanks for the information you have provided. ♫
hey jay, i need some help!!!! im running a r7 3700x and need to know if i should upgrade. idk if i want to rebuild or just upgrade to the latest AM4 cpu to keep it going as long as possible. any advice would be amazing! btw love the videos keep them coming please and bring back RTFM show lol
"Do as I say, not as I do. I'm a dad." - Life's wisdom right there
On an unrelated note, I hope you fellas put the mats back in stock someday. I’d love to buy one.
I miss EVGA...I am still rockin my 3080 FTW3...
Nice tear down video, but me personally I would have just cleaned the card ever month. As in dusting, and ran the card until it failed or some better faster cards came out. I just hate to see a card that powerful sitting on a shelf collecting dust and not being used, it if still works.
I miss my evga 1080ti already. Ahhh the memories. Those were awesome cards quirks and all. I'm sad they got out. Wish they'd make a huge comeback. Don't get me wrong my 4080 super is insane but the pascal era cards were just special. Pour one out for evga.
Wonder what GPU will be king two and half years from now, compared to this one? I'd still use it, just clean it annually instead of two and half years.
Also, you can retrofit a filter on the A/C unit. That stuff is getting into the GPU and is floating around the people in there, too.
So basically Jay's building builds up more gunk than someone smoking 3 packs of Gauloises in a phone booth for a year. Jay : let's clean this PC, this can't be good for it!
Bad Jay! dirtying up a evga.
Ive seen alot worse Jay. Its nice to see your commitment to keeping your systems looking great. EVGA builds seem to get some extra attention though ... not that your biased 💪
That wallpaper just made me rewire my whole electrical system in my house.
If you think desert is bad, try the US south during pollen season. Any car color? Now yellow.
acrer came out with a laptop that had a camera programmed to follow the movement of your eyes the screen moving accordingly. Also what was it called. A gamer capsule with fancy chair cage and 3 huge monitors. 10k or 12k.
thank you for your service and contributions ,NITR0 out
Did Jay just mention Space Engineers?! I love that game and play it constantly (like this morning). I am so geeked out - if I heard him right.
Yes, Jay and Phil are huge space and astronomy geeks, they talked about the game in some RTFM shows back then if I remember correctly
I've been watching kingpins RUclips channel, he has like 4 videos now lol. But he has thst same open chassis case up on a shelf in his studio.
im surprised your not using Ceramic coating to coat the fan blades which prevents the dirt and dust from sticking....you know that automotive ceramic spray on coating....its gives your OCD a break
I am so lucky to have my cx3 3080ti.. soon as you learn the fan curve omg ....
what i really dont understand, why cut out a logo of branding in the PCB when you could save some 'length' or is it just me?
As soon as I heard Jay say "well that's another pointless video", my immediate response was "well, I'll show you!" and clicked that like button. ;)
There.... that'll learn ya!
What card did you replace it with? And I did see one of those same cases at Kingpin’s place when Steve interviewed him.
Thank you for wasting my 12 minutes Jay. Gotta love EVGA. Definitely gotta miss them.
4:06 when I did this to my card, it took a shit ton of effort to get it off, it was just stupidly well stuck to it.
There were points when I was pulling it, that I thought the board was flexing too much and stopped for a bit to think up a new plan.
Eventually got it off after super carefully using a very thin iFixit spatula thing to slowly unstick the thermal pads.
Edit: also I wonder if Jay knows Kingpin stuff is coming back but through PNY?