This is truly one impressive plane. A perfect example of you get what you pay for in life. It looks perfect in every attitude. Beautiful evening and another great video. Thanks for all of the flying in the side yard area. 👍. I just finished a wonderful 2 hours of flying this morning myself. Have a great weekend. God bless.
All I can say about the Draco, one day when I get good enough to fly it comfortably, and when I save up enough pop bottle money. But I will have one that is for sure.
Brian, I love all your videos. I put a few hours of flying time on my Draco this weekend. I bought my brother the Carbon Cub S2 to get him into the hobby. It was awesome to see how quickly he picked it up and we were flying together, after a day of flying we installed the flaps for him and he is having a blast. This is an amazing hobby and you guys are awesome stewards of it, Thank you!
So glad you and your brother can enjoy this hobby together. I like how you gave him a "Free sample" just like the drug dealers - now he's hooked for life ;) I wish more people would do this for their brothers...I know I should!. My brother would probably be a good pilot, but he's not as disciplined into this type of activity as me...we played (and still very occasionally play) disk golf together, and that was real fun, and that too requires a lot of skill, but it's also more public and cheap. You can play for a couple hundred dollars and be outfit like a pro and then most courses are free. I predominately played with my cousin Scott, but then he moved to live with his wife in MO, so I lost my primary disk golf partner, and then I decided to get into flying rc aircraft....the rest is history ;) When we moved out here to this new property, it was a huge investment, but it wasn't just for RC planes...we had been looking for property prior to my starting into the hobby. In fact, but it took 7+ years to find and buy this land, then another year to build the house and runway ;) Now this property has enabled me to keep flying like I was able to do in town...mostly in front of the house (kinda right before all the BS FAA rules started) and at a community college right across the main highway, North of our development. This was a huge aid in helping me LEARN to fly, since I could fly every day, if the weather cooperated, AND I DID. I know having a venue is a big part of helping people make success of their RC efforts, but I wish the bar for entry could be lowered as much as possible to help people bring in their brother or friend or kids, etc... I'm so glad you lowered the bar to help your brother into the hobby, but more importantly, glad your brother jumped over the bar ;) That's kinda where I've struggled with my brother...I haven't exactly offered, but maybe I need to do that first. If he jumps, good...if not, at least I tried. Yes, and it's my preferred pack...fits nicely, and long flight times.... 7000 6S bit.ly/2U5OB7K
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the reply, I do not currently have a place to fly where i live. I have to pack up everything and drive (the closest place is about 20 minutes). The Draco especially takes up a lot of room. plus my 3 boys are into it also so I usually have to pack their flite test foamies and whatever tools and batteries we need. It's usally quite the operation. I am so excited to buy a place that can accommodate a runway. We are hoping to buy a place with land within the next year. Definitely try to get your brother into it. It was awesome flying with mine. He lives in Colorado (pipeline worker) and I live in Ohio so we don't get to spend much time together. I am excited to see how he progresses in the hobby and trade experiences on our phone calls. Have a great day and keep up the awesome videos. Maybe you can make it out to Flite Fest Ohio one year, It was awesome this year!
Hi Brian, Enjoyed your video. After a long wait my Draco finally arrived in UK. As I have an NX10 I put reverse onto the left roller on the back and the lights onto the roller on the other side - both being very easy to reach. Particularly compared to the knob! On maiden flight I checked trim and flap trim then opened throttle to full in a gentle descent. When I started to level it wouldn't. Closed throttle and no effect with full up elevator. Roll OK. Draco smashed into ground and seriously damaged itself. Examination of the wreckage in situ I noticed no damage to the tail section which didn't impact the ground BUT the elevator was detached from the horizontal stabiliser and only held to the aircraft by the control rod. The elevator surface is secured with 4 fibre hinges. All hinges had slid out and showed no signs of adhesive. I gently pulled each hinge and all slid out. On assembly of the Draco it appeared to me the elevator was only secured by foam - as is often the case with EPO constructed aircraft. The hinges were not visible. Because it was a bit stiff I waggled it back and forth a few times to loosen it up and it felt secure. I have since discovered there have been similar failures but mine being the first in UK. It is a heavy aircraft. Had it injured anyone or caused damage itcwould now be a Police matter and because Horizon have taken no steps to warn owners but know about it, they would not be in a happy position! I am pleased to be able to say I have been informed by my retailer that the Horizon agent in UK has agreed to replace my Draco but it will be a few weeks before they are back in stock. I will be fitting some more substantial hinges and ensuring they are glued! All very annoying. It would be a good idea if Horizon instigated a Safety Alert System for their aircraft because inevitably this sort of thing will occur from time to time, whether due to faulty design or poor quality control. As a professional pilot, we have it in full scale aircraft and so we should for models to protect those on the ground.
A good post Tommy, and as for myself flying the full scale models it is always an early morning trip to the field when nobody else is around, seeing to many near misses on a crowded Saturday, solo flying removes that one element of stress and uncertainty.
Sorry this happen - did you elevator pull OUT (to the rear of the craft) - I had that happen to me when I was testing the throttle on my maiden flight, I put my lets on the leading edge of the horizontal stab, and gave some throttle...then the part popped out - so yeah, I know what you're talking about, but haven't had it pop out since. It had to be BRACED to pop out in my case. I wonder if this part should be taped in or glued to keep it solid. Possibly a bracket with a bolt to keep it seated. This would keep the assembly together. The trouble in your situation, what came first, the chicken or the egg...sounds like you're crash investigation was good, but it's still tough to be 100% sure when that part came off...in flight causing the crash, or as a result of the crash. I guess we could conclude, since others have had similar issue, that you're was the CAUSE? Either way, glad you're safe and nobody got hurt, and very glad HH is replacing your model, albeit annoying to go through such a situation, I'm very glad to hear that they are taking care of you on this issue. So many other companies would have let you out to dry on this.
@@BrianPhillipsRC From what you say I gather the whole tailplane clicked out whilst you were holding it for a full throttle run-up? That wasn't what happened with mine. In my case the elevator detached from the horizontal stabiliser. The foam was not strong enough and it should have been held by 4 hinges which one could not see because they are embedded in the foam. It was clear there was no adhesive on those hinges and when I pulled the exposed half of the hinge it easily came out. When building the aircraft the elevator hinge seemed quite stiff - as is often the case with foam hinges - so I waggled it back and forth to ease it. This probably did more harm than good with this foam connection because after the crash I could see it was very thin and would never have withstood any force, although whilst waggling it felt secure. I suppose it comes down to both inadequate quality control and a design that does not reveal the construction. There do seem to have been a few similar cases but probably very few as a percentage of those sold.
Thanks for reminding me to double check the hinges. It's so easy to pass it over when all you can think about is getting it up in the air! Good luck on the new Draco
Ordered mine in March..... it arrived 24th December.....cant wait to fly it..... I hope you and your family have a great christmas and new year....... from me and my family here in Oz.... where its like 36C,,,,, feel free to send snow to cool us down....... cheers mate
By watching you I’d learn something today. The other day I was flying my night timber. I haven’t flown it in a long time so I went to make my approach to land, I reached over to flip it in the safe mode on and I hit the motor reverse 🤯. So a new prop and a little hot glue on my right gear and I’m backup in the air again, fly’s like never happened. A couple of guys out at the field said for me to change the “B” switch to “I” button for reversing. So now I just drop the RPM push the button and I have reversing so so cool. A little getting used to but I love it. 😇. Oh and by the way guys fantastic video and the Draco. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Very happy to have found your channel. First year in RC. Based on the fun you where having, I have bought the T-28, valiant, Timber EVO, Draco and FW190.
My backordered Draco should be at my door tomorrow, while my new NX10 here Monday. I bought both during holiday weekends with 4X RC Club points, plus bonus point on the NX10. I cashed all my RC Club points in for a FREE Turbo Timber EVO. 👍 My name's Bob and I'm a Horizon-holic. 😜
I like doing a steep approach in reverse early to grease it in. I'm glad to see you tried that technique. I'm keeping my eye out for real shocks in anticipation of the eventual blow out of the stock ones. Another great video team!
@@BrianPhillipsRC a few challenges will defiantly be the complex flap system and the pneumatic air- suspension that's able to lift and lower the plane. BUT, If any one can do it, Its Horizon Hobby🙂
Hi Brian, from Ontario Canada, first I do very much enjoy your videos especially before I purchase an airplane to see how it is to build and fly. Anyways a few months ago FYI I did purchase a Draco and the motor quit a few feet before maiden takeoff, ( thank goodness it quit on the ground) the ESC was defective and HH replaced it free, it took me a month or more to get around to installing the ESC but tested the model in the backyard to see if the engine and ESC worked, it did, didn't have a chance to maiden it because I had too many other airplanes to maiden so everything once again seems to be good on the Draco once again I will get it up asap in the spring. Yes I just purchased the RV7 and the FMS 1400 Pitts they fly great now the Sig Something Extra. Keep it up Brain!!!!!! Larry Shimoda
HI BRIAN I LIKE THE I BUTTON FOR THRUST REVERSE. EACH TO THERE OWN. I GOT MY DRACO LAST WEEK AND IM LOVING IT. EVERY THING ABOUT THIS PLANE IS JUST AMAZING. THANKS FOR FILMING CAMERA CREW AND THANKYOU FOR POSTING SIR.🇬🇧🇺🇸♥️🕊️👍
I've heard a lot of guys like it, but I have trouble getting to the I button. I fly with my thumbs, but I know some other pilots fly with "pincer grip"
Uuuggghhhh I need this in my life!! I did however just get a timber x 1.2m. Gonna maiden it tomorrow. Also, the eachine f-16 50mm is freakin awesome. I've been flying the heck out of it and I freakin love it.
It is GREAT! I find it strange there's so many that have had some issues with this or that on the Draco, but we've been REALLY happy with ours. Hope you get one soon!
Good work Brian! I have found that it requires more rudder than other planes to enjoy it properly. Clearly you fly with your rudder, so you enjoyed how great it is 👊🏻💥👊🏻
For sure! Rudder is a way of life for me ;) Coordinating turns make them look, and fly a LOT better. Mixing doesn't do the trick alone, but it helps some.
Awesome video man, just ordered myself one due to your videos! I’ve just gotten back into the hobby I’ve had a lot of fun with my carbon cub, hopefully this is a good next step
I would have loved to have gotten that airplane. Way out of my budget. But thanks for the heads up on the poor man's Draco. The turbo timber evolution 😜🤗
I have yet to fly my Draco. Still practicing on the computer sim with the NX8 and waiting for some new tires from Europe on back order. I have three battery's the heaviest of the three 7000ohms.
@@BrianPhillipsRC The Battery was bought by accident from Horizon Hobby when I clicked on buying another product and Amazon decided I bought that battery too. So no biggie. I bought my AMA lisc for two years yesterday. just so I can fly locally in Seattle area. I'm using the the NX8 with MSFS2020 and Plane X , DCS. learning the controls.
For some reason everybody in my club hates the Draco. Many people have returned them or sold them. I have the new 1.5M TTE. It flies great probably the same as this plane, except half the price.
I don't understand it. I LOVE mine...but it's not probably going to be an "everyday flier" since it's more delicate. Also, it gets hot, so if you flew it's wings off 2-3-4 times in a row, I bet it would have more issues that I ever have with it. The Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m is a better analog, if you ask me....so much fun...not to take anything away from the Turbo Timber Evo 1.5m, but it's just so easy....weird "complaint" I know, but I want a bit more challenge...am I crazy?
THAT WAS AWESOME FLYING!!!!!.....NO ONE ON YOU TUBE HAS LANDED THAT BIRD CORRECTLY.......WOW YOU FLEW THAT LIKE MIKE .....BETTER!!!! IN YOUR BACK YARD????
Thanks Lee! I'm so flattered you'd say this, but this plane really makes me look good!!! It's amazing flying, and suspension makes up for a lot of screw ups on my part. When Mike Patey lands in our back yard, that will be the day ;)
So I watched this vid at1st while at work today, and again now , after work. All day I thought about flying Draco. So, here I go. Going to the field with Draco.😋
Great follow-up video Brian ! Just got mine Draco ! Been seeing a lot of chatter in FB groups and forums about elevator separating from horizontal stabilizer and elevator servo fails. Have you heard anything about this ?
I hear about things like this, but not on this plane. I accidentally pulled out the horizontal stab while I was screwing with it before takeoff once, so if you're concerned, put a couple drops of CA in there. As for servos failing???? I haven't yet. I have had servos fail on many plane from years of flying a lot of planes. Failure rate on HH is arguable "better than usual"...but I HAVE had some fail on me ;( Don't fear, just fly it...you will forget very quickly about the nay-sayers. When you see the performance, you'll get how things could fail - this plane will allow you to BEAT IT TO DEATH - please don't, she's so beautiful!!!
Hey Brian..!!! ✌️ Just got mine today and followed the setup as per manual..🤣🤣🤣 I’m using the DX9 black edition and surprised to see everything working properly except reverse thrust..😳 I made the purchase because of your reviews, your flying, your enthusiasm for aviation and of course, “Camera Crew”..! Great job..! Can she put some cameras on the planes..? DJI..? GoPro..? Maybe she could review suitable cameras for different models..!
I bet you tired to enter the menu too slow........you have to do it within a couple seconds of BOOTING THE PLANE....so unplug the battery, then plug it back in and follow the screens to hold the sticks. You'll get it this time!
yes, and it's good ;) you will love it if you want it...but yeah, over $1000 for everything you need, but then you'll be able to use about half the stuff for other AMAZING planes ;)
100% NX8 always. NX6 will get the job done, but you'll use all our channels if I recall with the Draco. There's LIGHT CONTROLS too, don't forget ;) NX10 would be even better ;) And then you'll get the bigger battery, and better sticks, not that the NX8 or NX6 has bad sticks by any means. Both are great! My 2 cents - if you're dropping this kinda cash, don't even think about the NX6 - go for at least the NX8. You will never regret getting a nicer Transmitter (unless you quit...and then you'll regret lots of other stuff too - LOL). Tx bit.ly/3J05xSj
I don't think its too expensive but I go by parts prices. I added up the parts and was over 1200 dollars quickly so I didn't buy one. 150 dollars for half of a foam wing. If it was fixable at a reasonable price I would buy one.
Brian, you have flown all the large ones . which would you say youd buy if it would only be one . the draco, the carbon z cessna the carbon cub or the beaver? thanks
I love them all for different reasons. The Draco is the most scale looking, then Beaver/Cessna for second in terms of scale, and Carbon Z Cub last for scale...but in the reverse order for flight fun. I LOVE the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - I can fly it in CRAZY wind, and still enjoy it. The Draco is Fast and POWERFUL, but it's also more delicate, from what some have suggested, but I have had great luck with mine (some say the main CF on the mains is too weak, but I can't say I agree, since I've not had that issue...but a lot of people have had issues)/ If I had to "save one" from a fire in the basement, it would be a tough call.... Carbon Z Cessna 150 bit.ly/30PJkkD Carbon Z Cub SS bit.ly/30P5mUA Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix Beaver 2.0m bit.ly/3zZGqKn + AR637T bit.ly/3pW3u86 Just keep in mind LED's on all of them and FAR Best on the Draco. NONE on the Carbon Cub SS 2.1m (I agree, how lame!) Also, keep in mind, you'll need an Rx in the Beaver, which makes it appear to be a cheaper choice, but it's not really. Also, it's the ONLY one without Avian ESC, so if you want thrust reversing, you could get the AR631 (save a few bucks) and get Avian ESC and you'd have it ALL. Tough call. All VERY good, and that's no bs - I don't care which one you pick, but they all use the same EXPENSIVE lipos, and will all deliver a GREAT stock experience, BUT at the end of the day, the Cessna 150T probably delivers the most impressive, straight out of the box fun...except it suffers to drive backward without tearing up the tail dragger.... I just have to say - they are all so good, this is a tough call!
Tough call. They're close in price, but the Cessna is a lot bigger, so I suppose depends on if you want SUPER SCALE or a BIT larger. They're both great, but I'd say the Cessna 150T is a BIT better overall plane...but it's almost too close to call!
Wow wow wow. Amazing model. You should do a review on the avios spot fire from hobbyking. Only looking for around 300 dollars. I'd imagine you have 6s batteries for it. No rush
We made a strategic decision to pass on Hobbyking models, generally. I did a few in the past, but we haven't worked with them for some time. Sorry to disappoint.
This plane is awesome would love one but by the time I am confident enough to buy and fly one it will be discontinued LOL but the up side is the replacement could be Scrappy with a bit of luck. Brian why do you keep sounding like the enemy robots in Battlestar Galactica the sound keeps going to a distorted voice LOL.
Sorry to hear that, and I think this one will be around for some time. As for sounding like Battlestar Galactica - We are not sure WHY this happens....we filmed the Carbon Z Cessna 150T about 30 minutes prior to this flight (published Tuesday or Wednesday) and no Battlestar Galactica - Why??? We don't know. We want to figure it out, but we haven't isolated why it happens, so we can avoid it. At some point, when and if we would ever get proper video editing software, we could possible CUT out and VOICE over the weird noises...but until then, it's Battlestar Galactica for you all ;) Hope you don't mind too much...we do ;( - it's frustrating, since we mic test every single time we start filming and always check for this phenomena. Thanks for understanding!
Hey Brian... I bought the 6" Pneumatic wheels for my Carbon Z Cub to do your suggested upgrade... but I just got my Draco and after 1 afternoon of flying it, I decided I might sell the Carbon Z, which only has about 6 flights, and I haven't put the new wheelz on yet. lol I can tell it lands so nice and smooth compared to the Carbon, but would you suggest doing the pneumatics on the Draco? I think they're not quite 6", but close enough.
Tires on the Draco are so much better stock, than the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - those ones are HARD. The Draco wheels are fairly soft, stock, but pneumatic tires would be an improvement on most plane...they are a lot heavier though.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I agree... And as I've looked at them a little more. The 6" might be too big on Draco anyway. Maybe I'll just do the Carbon upgrade before selling. Thanks Brian
I ordered one and forgot that I did, in the meantime I bought one from a friend and then the ordered one showed up 😳 So now I have two I barely fly lol. I enjoy this plane very much actually. The only complaint I have is the way the elevator is attached. It’s very flimsy
Heya Brian, another great video. I am gonna pull the trigger on the Draco now. Are there any parts I should buy with it to have in case something happens? I have put the bigger tires already. Thanks in advance. Great shooting from The Camera Crew!👍
I don't know that you need spare parts, but if you're worried about the prop, get a prop. Other than that, possibly a tail dragger? I broke mine backing up a hill in the dark - LOL ;)
Another great video Brian! Any plans to do a second thoughts on the cherokee 1.3m? Trying to decide between that and the 1.1 t28. I’m a sucker for LED’s and really scale looking planes.
I love the Cherokee 1.3, and we haven't got big plans for a second thought, but I can tell you between the two, I like it even better than the T-28 1.1m - Here's why... Flaps LEDs ....BUT if you want more fast flying action, you might want to consider the T-28 first... it's more "exciting" to fly. Cherokee bit.ly/3vyjdNi T28 bit.ly/3eOh9Lk BOTH are great choices, and you'll be happy with either. Maybe let price make the decision? Flip a coin? :) Buy both!
I have a carbon cub s2 and am stuck between upgrading to a carbon z cub or a draco. Draco checks every mark on the list as far as looks and detail where has the carbon z cub is less scale. If you absolutely had to choose one which would you go with?
Tough call. Carbon Z Cub 2.1m will be a better flying experience, but the Draco is absolutely amazing. You gotta make a tough call - buy both, and eat ramen for a few months - LOL ;) CZ Cub SS bit.ly/3OlTJem Draco bit.ly/3zi8URp
@@BrianPhillipsRC I could only imagine the deployable twin slat and the adjustable Baja buggy suspension. Do you know of any rc planes that have retractable slats because I have only seen ones with fixed slats.
Both...sorry...I know they are both great!!! Honestly, if you want the middle ground, get the Carbon Z Cessna 150T ;) - LOL Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix VS Beaver 2.0m bit.ly/3zZGqKn AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c VS Carbon Z Cessna 150 bit.ly/30PJkkD VS Carbon Z Cub SS bit.ly/30P5mUA I put these all in the same arena and love them all. They are GREAT options, and all of them will make you smile ;)
No...Most of the planes we do are BNF or PNF, but we occasionally do a RTF, but they're usually in the "toy grade arena" - meaning a little $50-100 cheap Chinese toy...that DOES fly, and might be a blast, but not something you'll be flying in 5 years. THIS Draco is BNF, and I use my NX8 and SMART battery in it for this flight (description has a list of the items I used). Here's a quick breakdown for you.... The BNF (Bind and Fly) planes require you provide the transmitter and battery (And charger). RTF (Ready to fly) comes with most of what you need...sometimes you have to have an AC to USB charger adapter, or 4 AA batteries...but super small things. (PNP or PNF) Plug and Play / Plug and Fly comes with the plane, less the RECEIVER, transmitter, and battery (and charger) - this one is good for a plane that one manufacturer makes, but assumes another non-proprietary radio system will have a high rate of adoption by their customers... For instance, if you use a FUTABA (FHSS Radio) radio, and want a Horizon Hobby (Spektrum DSMX Receiver Equipped) plane, you can get a FUTABA receiver, and use your Preferred transmitter, then buy a PNF plane from Horizon Hobby. Some of the transmitters use proprietary TRANSITION PROTOCOLS, meaning, only DSMX Transmitter will talk with a DSMX Receiver, for example.
I just watched all his videos of draco on his channel, amd he said there's projects being built he can't talk about. I wonder if he's building another Draco?.???
5000mAh 6S 30C is totally fine. We have used 4000, 5000, 7000mAh 6S 30C packs in the Draco - all work well, but I prefer 7000mAh just since it gives me a longer flight time, and the plane can handle the weight nicely.
Hi Brian, a quick question about thrust reverse. I have the Turbo Timber Evolution and I always set switch A to safe/AS3X. I saw that aux2 was also on A and switched it to G. I do not want to use reverse thrust. From what I understand it is NOT on automatically, but would need to be programmed first, I am correct? Thanks from Switzerland! (Poor man`s Draco - Turbo Timber Evolution!)
You have to go into your ESC and program the behavior. It is NOT automatic. You will not have it "Accidentally" turn on. BUT, it's totally awesome....so much fun!
Hi Brian. Love your videos. I’m thinking of buying the Draco. What sort of flight times can be expected with Draco? Any advice in terms of batteries would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have a few flights on the playlist for the draco. If you're thinking about it, you might want to order it FIRST then, think about it...the stock is going to be gone quick!!! P.S. I'm sorry for my SLOW replay - we've had some very big things happening here... As for flight times...I've gotten like 20+ minutes on a 7000mAh 6S 30C pack, but I want you to watch and make sure I'm NOT misguiding you. I think that was on the maiden flight videos... Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix Batteries I have used and recommend... SMART G2 5000mAh 6S 30C - bit.ly/3jbgUff - this would be where I would fly, if you want to keep from mortgaging for the 7Ah battery SMART G2 7000mAh 6S 30C - bit.ly/2U5OB7K - this is the BEST pick for the Draco, but I fear it might ONLY be used for the draco? If you're only gonna use it for the Draco, maybe you could get the 5Ah so you have a better "middle ground"...might get you flying a few more great new releases.
A stunning air machine! And possibly the ugliest airplane I've ever seen :) Your vids are wonderful! And you're a very good pilot and instructor. Be well
BNF is Bind and Fly, What you will need separately from the BNF purchase is a Transmitter, Batteries and Charger. All you have to do is bind your transmitter to the airplane receiver (make sure you buy a compatible brand transmitter) Draco is Spektrum brand.
@@BrianPhillipsRC haven't gotten one yet. I keep hearing they're just springs with NO dampening or oil :0 Thanks for replying to your comments btw You're a well of knowledge 🙂
I hope I'm not wrong, but when I was hearing a TON about this plane prior to it's release, that was a big "Thing" and it was going to be an "option" but they decided to just include it. I did look up the replacement part, and it's only $10 per strut, so I'm kinda like...can it really be oil filled at that price??? Either way, not I'm nervous I'll be wrong and disappoint you...please forgive me if you find out I'm way off base ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC when I first saw those I wasn't sure if they were part of my RC truck parts or something and were left on the dining room table were I do all my builds and repairs lol.
@@BrianPhillipsRC it's not that I'm a dravo hater, it is just that if I mix chocolate and peanut butter, it's a peanut butter cup... Top wing eflite Rigs are in the double digits.. from 4 different timbers to Carbon z models to apprentice and draco.. Feels like Madden 19, 20, 21 22.. same game with updated rosters
Brian. I took the time to put a clear coat on my DRACO and the results were amazing and worth every second it took the real DRACO had a super shiny paint scheme and I think yours should too. Other than that DRACO is incredible and I love it. Check out my videos on my channel. I got some good ones too 👍👍😎✌👊
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian. I am not sure of the added weight to the plane but I used 2 cans of polychrylic. Spray cans that is. And it doesn't effect the flight quality at all. Sure does brighten up the dull red from horizon. Just do it. You will thank me later ✌😎👊
This is truly one impressive plane. A perfect example of you get what you pay for in life. It looks perfect in every attitude. Beautiful evening and another great video. Thanks for all of the flying in the side yard area. 👍. I just finished a wonderful 2 hours of flying this morning myself. Have a great weekend. God bless.
Thanks Jeffrey!
All I can say about the Draco, one day when I get good enough to fly it comfortably, and when I save up enough pop bottle money. But I will have one that is for sure.
Good luck! It's a blast to fly!!!
Brian, I love all your videos. I put a few hours of flying time on my Draco this weekend. I bought my brother the Carbon Cub S2 to get him into the hobby. It was awesome to see how quickly he picked it up and we were flying together, after a day of flying we installed the flaps for him and he is having a blast. This is an amazing hobby and you guys are awesome stewards of it, Thank you!
So glad you and your brother can enjoy this hobby together. I like how you gave him a "Free sample" just like the drug dealers - now he's hooked for life ;) I wish more people would do this for their brothers...I know I should!. My brother would probably be a good pilot, but he's not as disciplined into this type of activity as me...we played (and still very occasionally play) disk golf together, and that was real fun, and that too requires a lot of skill, but it's also more public and cheap. You can play for a couple hundred dollars and be outfit like a pro and then most courses are free. I predominately played with my cousin Scott, but then he moved to live with his wife in MO, so I lost my primary disk golf partner, and then I decided to get into flying rc aircraft....the rest is history ;) When we moved out here to this new property, it was a huge investment, but it wasn't just for RC planes...we had been looking for property prior to my starting into the hobby. In fact, but it took 7+ years to find and buy this land, then another year to build the house and runway ;) Now this property has enabled me to keep flying like I was able to do in town...mostly in front of the house (kinda right before all the BS FAA rules started) and at a community college right across the main highway, North of our development. This was a huge aid in helping me LEARN to fly, since I could fly every day, if the weather cooperated, AND I DID. I know having a venue is a big part of helping people make success of their RC efforts, but I wish the bar for entry could be lowered as much as possible to help people bring in their brother or friend or kids, etc... I'm so glad you lowered the bar to help your brother into the hobby, but more importantly, glad your brother jumped over the bar ;) That's kinda where I've struggled with my brother...I haven't exactly offered, but maybe I need to do that first. If he jumps, good...if not, at least I tried.
Yes, and it's my preferred pack...fits nicely, and long flight times....
7000 6S bit.ly/2U5OB7K
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the reply, I do not currently have a place to fly where i live. I have to pack up everything and drive (the closest place is about 20 minutes). The Draco especially takes up a lot of room. plus my 3 boys are into it also so I usually have to pack their flite test foamies and whatever tools and batteries we need. It's usally quite the operation. I am so excited to buy a place that can accommodate a runway. We are hoping to buy a place with land within the next year. Definitely try to get your brother into it. It was awesome flying with mine. He lives in Colorado (pipeline worker) and I live in Ohio so we don't get to spend much time together. I am excited to see how he progresses in the hobby and trade experiences on our phone calls. Have a great day and keep up the awesome videos. Maybe you can make it out to Flite Fest Ohio one year, It was awesome this year!
I got my dad the sport cub s2 to get into the hobby and it went straight into treee
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Hi Brian, Enjoyed your video. After a long wait my Draco finally arrived in UK. As I have an NX10 I put reverse onto the left roller on the back and the lights onto the roller on the other side - both being very easy to reach. Particularly compared to the knob! On maiden flight I checked trim and flap trim then opened throttle to full in a gentle descent. When I started to level it wouldn't. Closed throttle and no effect with full up elevator. Roll OK. Draco smashed into ground and seriously damaged itself. Examination of the wreckage in situ I noticed no damage to the tail section which didn't impact the ground BUT the elevator was detached from the horizontal stabiliser and only held to the aircraft by the control rod. The elevator surface is secured with 4 fibre hinges. All hinges had slid out and showed no signs of adhesive. I gently pulled each hinge and all slid out. On assembly of the Draco it appeared to me the elevator was only secured by foam - as is often the case with EPO constructed aircraft. The hinges were not visible. Because it was a bit stiff I waggled it back and forth a few times to loosen it up and it felt secure. I have since discovered there have been similar failures but mine being the first in UK. It is a heavy aircraft. Had it injured anyone or caused damage itcwould now be a Police matter and because Horizon have taken no steps to warn owners but know about it, they would not be in a happy position! I am pleased to be able to say I have been informed by my retailer that the Horizon agent in UK has agreed to replace my Draco but it will be a few weeks before they are back in stock. I will be fitting some more substantial hinges and ensuring they are glued! All very annoying. It would be a good idea if Horizon instigated a Safety Alert System for their aircraft because inevitably this sort of thing will occur from time to time, whether due to faulty design or poor quality control. As a professional pilot, we have it in full scale aircraft and so we should for models to protect those on the ground.
A good post Tommy, and as for myself flying the full scale models it is always an early morning trip to the field when nobody else is around, seeing to many near misses on a crowded Saturday, solo flying removes that one element of stress and uncertainty.
Sorry this happen - did you elevator pull OUT (to the rear of the craft) - I had that happen to me when I was testing the throttle on my maiden flight, I put my lets on the leading edge of the horizontal stab, and gave some throttle...then the part popped out - so yeah, I know what you're talking about, but haven't had it pop out since. It had to be BRACED to pop out in my case. I wonder if this part should be taped in or glued to keep it solid. Possibly a bracket with a bolt to keep it seated. This would keep the assembly together. The trouble in your situation, what came first, the chicken or the egg...sounds like you're crash investigation was good, but it's still tough to be 100% sure when that part came off...in flight causing the crash, or as a result of the crash. I guess we could conclude, since others have had similar issue, that you're was the CAUSE? Either way, glad you're safe and nobody got hurt, and very glad HH is replacing your model, albeit annoying to go through such a situation, I'm very glad to hear that they are taking care of you on this issue. So many other companies would have let you out to dry on this.
@@BrianPhillipsRC From what you say I gather the whole tailplane clicked out whilst you were holding it for a full throttle run-up?
That wasn't what happened with mine. In my case the elevator detached from the horizontal stabiliser. The foam was not strong enough and it should have been held by 4 hinges which one could not see because they are embedded in the foam. It was clear there was no adhesive on those hinges and when I pulled the exposed half of the hinge it easily came out. When building the aircraft the elevator hinge seemed quite stiff - as is often the case with foam hinges - so I waggled it back and forth to ease it. This probably did more harm than good with this foam connection because after the crash I could see it was very thin and would never have withstood any force, although whilst waggling it felt secure. I suppose it comes down to both inadequate quality control and a design that does not reveal the construction. There do seem to have been a few similar cases but probably very few as a percentage of those sold.
Thanks for reminding me to double check the hinges. It's so easy to pass it over when all you can think about is getting it up in the air! Good luck on the new Draco
Ordered mine in March..... it arrived 24th December.....cant wait to fly it..... I hope you and your family have a great christmas and new year....... from me and my family here in Oz.... where its like 36C,,,,, feel free to send snow to cool us down....... cheers mate
WOW! That's a long wait! I know you'll love it!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC ruclips.net/video/bpbKwh0Oy4o/видео.html after todays effort I might hand off with the Draco for a bit..... stay safe
By watching you I’d learn something today. The other day I was flying my night timber. I haven’t flown it in a long time so I went to make my approach to land, I reached over to flip it in the safe mode on and I hit the motor reverse 🤯. So a new prop and a little hot glue on my right gear and I’m backup in the air again, fly’s like never happened. A couple of guys out at the field said for me to change the “B” switch to “I” button for reversing. So now I just drop the RPM push the button and I have reversing so so cool. A little getting used to but I love it. 😇. Oh and by the way guys fantastic video and the Draco. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I've moved my switch for reversing to "G", a less than commonly used switch, and somewhat protected from the dreaded accidental flip ;)
Very happy to have found your channel. First year in RC. Based on the fun you where having, I have bought the T-28, valiant, Timber EVO, Draco and FW190.
Holy cow - that's an expensive first year - Your basement is gonna look like mine if you keep that up ;)
My backordered Draco should be at my door tomorrow, while my new NX10 here Monday. I bought both during holiday weekends with 4X RC Club points, plus bonus point on the NX10.
I cashed all my RC Club points in for a FREE Turbo Timber EVO. 👍
My name's Bob and I'm a Horizon-holic. 😜
So glad you got one! Good luck!!!
I like doing a steep approach in reverse early to grease it in. I'm glad to see you tried that technique. I'm keeping my eye out for real shocks in anticipation of the eventual blow out of the stock ones. Another great video team!
Thanks!
I really would like to see them make scrappy that’s would be amazing.
me too!
@@BrianPhillipsRC a few challenges will defiantly be the complex flap system and the pneumatic air- suspension that's able to lift and lower the plane. BUT, If any one can do it, Its Horizon Hobby🙂
I love that plane 😊. Still waiting for mine to arrive, I ordered it in March…
Well in the meanwhile I can watch you flying it.
Love your videos.
Wow! I bet you have it now ;)
Not yet
Your right about it looking so real very scale aircraft!!! Love it
Agreed!
Hi Brian, from Ontario Canada, first I do very much enjoy your videos especially before I purchase an airplane to see how it is to build and fly. Anyways a few months ago FYI I did purchase a Draco and the motor quit a few feet before maiden takeoff, ( thank goodness it quit on the ground) the ESC was defective and HH replaced it free, it took me a month or more to get around to installing the ESC but tested the model in the backyard to see if the engine and ESC worked, it did, didn't have a chance to maiden it because I had too many other airplanes to maiden so everything once again seems to be good on the Draco once again I will get it up asap in the spring. Yes I just purchased the RV7 and the FMS 1400 Pitts they fly great now the Sig Something Extra.
Keep it up Brain!!!!!!
Larry Shimoda
A month!??!?! That's a long time to wait to fly that beast...I would have taken it up for just a super quick spin ;) LOL
I just got it for Christmas what a plane and as always thank you for sharing
Totally! I'm glad you're checking it out Steven - it is fantastic!
That's owesome you got the dreams runway nice property and the best hobby of the world
It is awesome!!! Thanks Ramiro!
HI BRIAN I LIKE THE I BUTTON FOR THRUST REVERSE. EACH TO THERE OWN. I GOT MY DRACO LAST WEEK AND IM LOVING IT. EVERY THING ABOUT THIS PLANE IS JUST AMAZING. THANKS FOR FILMING CAMERA CREW AND THANKYOU FOR POSTING SIR.🇬🇧🇺🇸♥️🕊️👍
I've heard a lot of guys like it, but I have trouble getting to the I button. I fly with my thumbs, but I know some other pilots fly with "pincer grip"
Brian I absolutely love your channel, been watching since 4 years now, 15:41 is your money shot 👌 BB
For sure ;) Love watching a short landing.
Uuuggghhhh I need this in my life!! I did however just get a timber x 1.2m. Gonna maiden it tomorrow. Also, the eachine f-16 50mm is freakin awesome. I've been flying the heck out of it and I freakin love it.
NICE! This plane is so much fun, but don't want to take anything away from your Timber - awesome plane too!
Love this plane! Can not wait to get one of these in my hand!!!! Great video Brian!
It is GREAT! I find it strange there's so many that have had some issues with this or that on the Draco, but we've been REALLY happy with ours.
Hope you get one soon!
Love mine Brian. I should get to fly it more. I added another pilot to accompany Mike.
Well done Megan.
Thanks! I kinda wish I could get mike out, and replace him with a small ME in there ;)
hi Brian…I bet you could print a 3D pic of your face and stick it over Mike
Good work Brian! I have found that it requires more rudder than other planes to enjoy it properly. Clearly you fly with your rudder, so you enjoyed how great it is 👊🏻💥👊🏻
For sure! Rudder is a way of life for me ;) Coordinating turns make them look, and fly a LOT better. Mixing doesn't do the trick alone, but it helps some.
Wow, very. Thank you guys
you're welcome G Bro!
Awesome video man, just ordered myself one due to your videos! I’ve just gotten back into the hobby I’ve had a lot of fun with my carbon cub, hopefully this is a good next step
Glad to hear it! This plane is amazing! You will love it!
Brian has that effect.. I got one too..!
😂
Just another awesome review video! Love how you do these!
Thanks Brendan! Glad you enjoyed it!!!
I want to get an RC scrappy. That would be BA. Great video. Even if it is a year late. I have watched you for a very long time.
That would be amazing!
Thanks for being here with us Morris!
I would have loved to have gotten that airplane.
Way out of my budget.
But thanks for the heads up on the poor man's Draco. The turbo timber evolution 😜🤗
You're good with the TT - GREAT plane, similar experience. Enjoy!
I'll watch today evening for sleep!
Nice!
Oh man now i want to have the Draco i love it
I have yet to fly my Draco. Still practicing on the computer sim with the NX8 and waiting for some new tires from Europe on back order. I have three battery's the heaviest of the three 7000ohms.
7000mAh? That's a good size for this plane. She loves to fly heavy in the wind.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Ooooh I can fly this at the ranch then. It gets windy in the NE Wa Columbia Valley
@@BrianPhillipsRC The Battery was bought by accident from Horizon Hobby when I clicked on buying another product and Amazon decided I bought that battery too. So no biggie. I bought my AMA lisc for two years yesterday. just so I can fly locally in Seattle area. I'm using the the NX8 with MSFS2020 and Plane X , DCS. learning the controls.
For some reason everybody in my club hates the Draco. Many people have returned them or sold them. I have the new 1.5M TTE. It flies great probably the same as this plane, except half the price.
I don't understand it. I LOVE mine...but it's not probably going to be an "everyday flier" since it's more delicate. Also, it gets hot, so if you flew it's wings off 2-3-4 times in a row, I bet it would have more issues that I ever have with it.
The Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m is a better analog, if you ask me....so much fun...not to take anything away from the Turbo Timber Evo 1.5m, but it's just so easy....weird "complaint" I know, but I want a bit more challenge...am I crazy?
Draco being rebuilt. 🤩
Is it?
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hi Brian, it will be Draco 2 not the original. All new color.
Come on HORIZON HOBBY, let's have SCRAPPY!!!!!!!
Agreed!!! Might want to add Mike Patey into your call for action ;)
It takes 18 months to release a new bird.
THAT WAS AWESOME FLYING!!!!!.....NO ONE ON YOU TUBE HAS LANDED THAT BIRD CORRECTLY.......WOW YOU FLEW THAT LIKE MIKE .....BETTER!!!! IN YOUR BACK YARD????
Thanks Lee! I'm so flattered you'd say this, but this plane really makes me look good!!! It's amazing flying, and suspension makes up for a lot of screw ups on my part.
When Mike Patey lands in our back yard, that will be the day ;)
Would you use a 6000 battery on the DRACO,?
Nice... Hey Brian Your Mic Was Flakey Again At 2:40, 3:50, 6:20, 7:30, 8:45, 10:00, 11:15, 12:30, 13:40, 16:08--, 21:45---, 23:00, 25:00+... 😁😎
We are trying something new to fix this issue...and haven't decided if it's going to be the solution or not.
So I watched this vid at1st while at work today, and again now , after work. All day I thought about flying Draco. So, here I go. Going to the field with Draco.😋
Awesome! Good for your Philip!
Great follow-up video Brian ! Just got mine Draco ! Been seeing a lot of chatter in FB groups and forums about elevator separating from horizontal stabilizer and elevator servo fails. Have you heard anything about this ?
I hear about things like this, but not on this plane. I accidentally pulled out the horizontal stab while I was screwing with it before takeoff once, so if you're concerned, put a couple drops of CA in there. As for servos failing???? I haven't yet. I have had servos fail on many plane from years of flying a lot of planes. Failure rate on HH is arguable "better than usual"...but I HAVE had some fail on me ;(
Don't fear, just fly it...you will forget very quickly about the nay-sayers. When you see the performance, you'll get how things could fail - this plane will allow you to BEAT IT TO DEATH - please don't, she's so beautiful!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian thanks so much. I'll put a couple of drops of CA on it. Thanks again for all you do !
Hey Brian..!!! ✌️
Just got mine today and followed the setup as per manual..🤣🤣🤣 I’m using the DX9 black edition and surprised to see everything working properly except reverse thrust..😳
I made the purchase because of your reviews, your flying, your enthusiasm for aviation and of course, “Camera Crew”..! Great job..! Can she put some cameras on the planes..? DJI..? GoPro..? Maybe she could review suitable cameras for different models..!
Good luck on your maiden. Why didn't your REVERSE THRUST work???
I bet you tired to enter the menu too slow........you have to do it within a couple seconds of BOOTING THE PLANE....so unplug the battery, then plug it back in and follow the screens to hold the sticks. You'll get it this time!
Love me the Draco. Gorgeous model, but man it really demands some lots of 💵. Hopefully one day I can afford it.
yes, and it's good ;) you will love it if you want it...but yeah, over $1000 for everything you need, but then you'll be able to use about half the stuff for other AMAZING planes ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC good point
Do you prefer the NX8 or the NX6 to fly the Draco?
100% NX8 always. NX6 will get the job done, but you'll use all our channels if I recall with the Draco. There's LIGHT CONTROLS too, don't forget ;)
NX10 would be even better ;) And then you'll get the bigger battery, and better sticks, not that the NX8 or NX6 has bad sticks by any means. Both are great!
My 2 cents - if you're dropping this kinda cash, don't even think about the NX6 - go for at least the NX8. You will never regret getting a nicer Transmitter (unless you quit...and then you'll regret lots of other stuff too - LOL).
Tx bit.ly/3J05xSj
I knew it! Brian is a robot!...
LOL - Darn mics. We don't even know what's causing Mr. Roboto
Thrust Reverse should also work on the DX8, right?
I think so...but you might need to update your firmware.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks
For those who have the same problem. I got my Draco and Thrust Reverse is also working on DX8 even without an update.
I don't think its too expensive but I go by parts prices. I added up the parts and was over 1200 dollars quickly so I didn't buy one. 150 dollars for half of a foam wing. If it was fixable at a reasonable price I would buy one.
It's not cheap, but it's worth the higher price. Love flying the Draco!!!
Brian, you have flown all the large ones . which would you say youd buy if it would only be one . the draco, the carbon z cessna the carbon cub or the beaver? thanks
I love them all for different reasons. The Draco is the most scale looking, then Beaver/Cessna for second in terms of scale, and Carbon Z Cub last for scale...but in the reverse order for flight fun. I LOVE the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - I can fly it in CRAZY wind, and still enjoy it. The Draco is Fast and POWERFUL, but it's also more delicate, from what some have suggested, but I have had great luck with mine (some say the main CF on the mains is too weak, but I can't say I agree, since I've not had that issue...but a lot of people have had issues)/
If I had to "save one" from a fire in the basement, it would be a tough call....
Carbon Z Cessna 150 bit.ly/30PJkkD
Carbon Z Cub SS bit.ly/30P5mUA
Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix
Beaver 2.0m bit.ly/3zZGqKn + AR637T bit.ly/3pW3u86
Just keep in mind LED's on all of them and FAR Best on the Draco. NONE on the Carbon Cub SS 2.1m (I agree, how lame!)
Also, keep in mind, you'll need an Rx in the Beaver, which makes it appear to be a cheaper choice, but it's not really. Also, it's the ONLY one without Avian ESC, so if you want thrust reversing, you could get the AR631 (save a few bucks) and get Avian ESC and you'd have it ALL.
Tough call. All VERY good, and that's no bs - I don't care which one you pick, but they all use the same EXPENSIVE lipos, and will all deliver a GREAT stock experience, BUT at the end of the day, the Cessna 150T probably delivers the most impressive, straight out of the box fun...except it suffers to drive backward without tearing up the tail dragger....
I just have to say - they are all so good, this is a tough call!
I have seen you perform the "corn hole" with several airplanes. What are the transmitter stick inputs? Sorry if I missed an earlier explanation.
@@jimlahey1874 Thank you Jim!
Yes ;) Right stick up and left/right, Left Stick up and Left/Right - it's fun, but make sure you have some altitude ;)
Which Horizon plane best for STOL? Almost looked like the 150T did a bit better? Thanks!
The Carbon Z's BOTH perform slightly better, but this plane is AMAZINGLY detailed too, whereas the Carbon Z's are more like fun-scale.
Awesome video as always!
What would you get cesna 150 or draco? Thanks
Tough call. They're close in price, but the Cessna is a lot bigger, so I suppose depends on if you want SUPER SCALE or a BIT larger. They're both great, but I'd say the Cessna 150T is a BIT better overall plane...but it's almost too close to call!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the quick reply!
Wow wow wow. Amazing model. You should do a review on the avios spot fire from hobbyking. Only looking for around 300 dollars. I'd imagine you have 6s batteries for it. No rush
We made a strategic decision to pass on Hobbyking models, generally. I did a few in the past, but we haven't worked with them for some time.
Sorry to disappoint.
Brian,
Love your videos, however Draco like the Phoenix could rise again :-)
I hope it does!!!
This plane is awesome would love one but by the time I am confident enough to buy and fly one it will be discontinued LOL but the up side is the replacement could be Scrappy with a bit of luck.
Brian why do you keep sounding like the enemy robots in Battlestar Galactica the sound keeps going to a distorted voice LOL.
Sorry to hear that, and I think this one will be around for some time.
As for sounding like Battlestar Galactica - We are not sure WHY this happens....we filmed the Carbon Z Cessna 150T about 30 minutes prior to this flight (published Tuesday or Wednesday) and no Battlestar Galactica - Why??? We don't know. We want to figure it out, but we haven't isolated why it happens, so we can avoid it. At some point, when and if we would ever get proper video editing software, we could possible CUT out and VOICE over the weird noises...but until then, it's Battlestar Galactica for you all ;) Hope you don't mind too much...we do ;( - it's frustrating, since we mic test every single time we start filming and always check for this phenomena.
Thanks for understanding!
Hey Brian... I bought the 6" Pneumatic wheels for my Carbon Z Cub to do your suggested upgrade... but I just got my Draco and after 1 afternoon of flying it, I decided I might sell the Carbon Z, which only has about 6 flights, and I haven't put the new wheelz on yet. lol
I can tell it lands so nice and smooth compared to the Carbon, but would you suggest doing the pneumatics on the Draco? I think they're not quite 6", but close enough.
Tires on the Draco are so much better stock, than the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - those ones are HARD. The Draco wheels are fairly soft, stock, but pneumatic tires would be an improvement on most plane...they are a lot heavier though.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I agree... And as I've looked at them a little more. The 6" might be too big on Draco anyway. Maybe I'll just do the Carbon upgrade before selling. Thanks Brian
I ordered one and forgot that I did, in the meantime I bought one from a friend and then the ordered one showed up 😳 So now I have two I barely fly lol. I enjoy this plane very much actually. The only complaint I have is the way the elevator is attached. It’s very flimsy
I clicked it out on accident once, but since then, I've never bumped it yet... I wonder if a drip of glue would be in order???
@@BrianPhillipsRC glue is how I’m going to fix it
Heya Brian, another great video. I am gonna pull the trigger on the Draco now. Are there any parts I should buy with it to have in case something happens? I have put the bigger tires already. Thanks in advance. Great shooting from The Camera Crew!👍
I don't know that you need spare parts, but if you're worried about the prop, get a prop. Other than that, possibly a tail dragger? I broke mine backing up a hill in the dark - LOL ;)
Another great video Brian! Any plans to do a second thoughts on the cherokee 1.3m? Trying to decide between that and the 1.1 t28. I’m a sucker for LED’s and really scale looking planes.
I love the Cherokee 1.3, and we haven't got big plans for a second thought, but I can tell you between the two, I like it even better than the T-28 1.1m - Here's why...
Flaps
LEDs
....BUT if you want more fast flying action, you might want to consider the T-28 first... it's more "exciting" to fly.
Cherokee bit.ly/3vyjdNi
T28 bit.ly/3eOh9Lk
BOTH are great choices, and you'll be happy with either. Maybe let price make the decision? Flip a coin? :) Buy both!
I have a carbon cub s2 and am stuck between upgrading to a carbon z cub or a draco. Draco checks every mark on the list as far as looks and detail where has the carbon z cub is less scale. If you absolutely had to choose one which would you go with?
Tough call. Carbon Z Cub 2.1m will be a better flying experience, but the Draco is absolutely amazing.
You gotta make a tough call - buy both, and eat ramen for a few months - LOL ;)
CZ Cub SS bit.ly/3OlTJem
Draco bit.ly/3zi8URp
Imagine if they make scrappy!
It would be so awesome, and so complicated ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I could only imagine the deployable twin slat and the adjustable Baja buggy suspension. Do you know of any rc planes that have retractable slats because I have only seen ones with fixed slats.
V2 beaver or draco? Which one you like better?
Both...sorry...I know they are both great!!!
Honestly, if you want the middle ground, get the Carbon Z Cessna 150T ;) - LOL
Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix
VS
Beaver 2.0m bit.ly/3zZGqKn
AR631 bit.ly/3pYNC3c
VS
Carbon Z Cessna 150 bit.ly/30PJkkD
VS
Carbon Z Cub SS bit.ly/30P5mUA
I put these all in the same arena and love them all. They are GREAT options, and all of them will make you smile ;)
AWESOME BEAST 🔥👍✌️
Oh yeah!
Do all these R/C planes come with the radio transmitters or do ya have to buy them seperatly???
No...Most of the planes we do are BNF or PNF, but we occasionally do a RTF, but they're usually in the "toy grade arena" - meaning a little $50-100 cheap Chinese toy...that DOES fly, and might be a blast, but not something you'll be flying in 5 years.
THIS Draco is BNF, and I use my NX8 and SMART battery in it for this flight (description has a list of the items I used).
Here's a quick breakdown for you....
The BNF (Bind and Fly) planes require you provide the transmitter and battery (And charger).
RTF (Ready to fly) comes with most of what you need...sometimes you have to have an AC to USB charger adapter, or 4 AA batteries...but super small things.
(PNP or PNF) Plug and Play / Plug and Fly comes with the plane, less the RECEIVER, transmitter, and battery (and charger) - this one is good for a plane that one manufacturer makes, but assumes another non-proprietary radio system will have a high rate of adoption by their customers... For instance, if you use a FUTABA (FHSS Radio) radio, and want a Horizon Hobby (Spektrum DSMX Receiver Equipped) plane, you can get a FUTABA receiver, and use your Preferred transmitter, then buy a PNF plane from Horizon Hobby. Some of the transmitters use proprietary TRANSITION PROTOCOLS, meaning, only DSMX Transmitter will talk with a DSMX Receiver, for example.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Okie dokie. . . . .cool. Thankya for the response back. I really appreciate it very much. Take care
Maybe the micro Draco is coming soon? Heck and also a 3.0m version... lol
I want the UMX, and a 1.2m size class. Both would be great.
I just watched all his videos of draco on his channel, amd he said there's projects being built he can't talk about. I wonder if he's building another Draco?.???
Which is the best Control NX8 or DX8e? Plissss
NX8 Check the price ;) Tx bit.ly/3f4JhZl
I remember this…
Me too ;)
Brian, have an otter question. Can I use a 5000mah battery without weight issues or burning the esc.
5000mAh 6S 30C is totally fine. We have used 4000, 5000, 7000mAh 6S 30C packs in the Draco - all work well, but I prefer 7000mAh just since it gives me a longer flight time, and the plane can handle the weight nicely.
Hi Brian, a quick question about thrust reverse. I have the Turbo Timber Evolution and I always set switch A to safe/AS3X. I saw that aux2 was also on A and switched it to G. I do not want to use reverse thrust. From what I understand it is NOT on automatically, but would need to be programmed first, I am correct? Thanks from Switzerland! (Poor man`s Draco - Turbo Timber Evolution!)
You have to go into your ESC and program the behavior. It is NOT automatic. You will not have it "Accidentally" turn on.
BUT, it's totally awesome....so much fun!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Cheers!
Hi Brian. Love your videos.
I’m thinking of buying the Draco. What sort of flight times can be expected with Draco?
Any advice in terms of batteries would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have a few flights on the playlist for the draco. If you're thinking about it, you might want to order it FIRST then, think about it...the stock is going to be gone quick!!!
P.S. I'm sorry for my SLOW replay - we've had some very big things happening here...
As for flight times...I've gotten like 20+ minutes on a 7000mAh 6S 30C pack, but I want you to watch and make sure I'm NOT misguiding you. I think that was on the maiden flight videos...
Draco bit.ly/3ttx3ix
Batteries I have used and recommend...
SMART G2 5000mAh 6S 30C - bit.ly/3jbgUff - this would be where I would fly, if you want to keep from mortgaging for the 7Ah battery
SMART G2 7000mAh 6S 30C - bit.ly/2U5OB7K - this is the BEST pick for the Draco, but I fear it might ONLY be used for the draco? If you're only gonna use it for the Draco, maybe you could get the 5Ah so you have a better "middle ground"...might get you flying a few more great new releases.
A stunning air machine! And possibly the ugliest airplane I've ever seen :)
Your vids are wonderful! And you're a very good pilot and instructor. Be well
LOL - I've heard this before, but yet I love the way this plane looks ;)
Thanks!
I wonder if horizon hobby is going to make a RC Scrappy 🤔🤞
That would be sweet!
I wanna see a UMX Draco.
Me too!
Cool
Totally!
I have a question, what do you think is a good model between electric and gas? Maybe a trainer or something else?
I'm not sure what you're asking.
@@BrianPhillipsRC An aircraft that is a good trainer for gas powered.
What is BNF. What all do you need
BNF is Bind and Fly, What you will need separately from the BNF purchase is a Transmitter, Batteries and Charger. All you have to do is bind your transmitter to the airplane receiver (make sure you buy a compatible brand transmitter) Draco is Spektrum brand.
Thanks Doug beat me to the chase ;)
Thanks guys
Has anyone found any oil filled shocks that fit the draco?
They're supposed to be oil filled. Were yours NOT?
@@BrianPhillipsRC haven't gotten one yet. I keep hearing they're just springs with NO dampening or oil :0
Thanks for replying to your comments btw
You're a well of knowledge 🙂
I hope I'm not wrong, but when I was hearing a TON about this plane prior to it's release, that was a big "Thing" and it was going to be an "option" but they decided to just include it. I did look up the replacement part, and it's only $10 per strut, so I'm kinda like...can it really be oil filled at that price???
Either way, not I'm nervous I'll be wrong and disappoint you...please forgive me if you find out I'm way off base ;)
Where ya been?
Here ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC ain't seen ya on for a bit. Really look forward to your videos. Oh by the way...got the AeroScout put back together!
Yeah....I'm going Draco...what a pity you don't have any UK-relevant affiliate links!...I'll ping you some Paypals! ;)
Thanks so much James!!! We really appreciate your support!
i see you did not put the two little black pegs in. haha
I did put them in. There's hard to see, but they're there.
@@BrianPhillipsRC when I first saw those I wasn't sure if they were part of my RC truck parts or something and were left on the dining room table were I do all my builds and repairs lol.
So glad the Draco hype is loooo'oong gone
Draco - Haters abound ;) LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC it's not that I'm a dravo hater, it is just that if I mix chocolate and peanut butter, it's a peanut butter cup...
Top wing eflite Rigs are in the double digits.. from 4 different timbers to Carbon z models to apprentice and draco..
Feels like Madden 19, 20, 21 22.. same game with updated rosters
Get a second Draco for bashing! lol
I have enough planes, I can bash them all ;)
Weed will get you every time! IJS
every time
Whats up with that robot voice? 😆
Mic issues. We think we figured it out. Hopefully Mr Roboto will be gone for good now ;)
Brian. I took the time to put a clear coat on my DRACO and the results were amazing and worth every second it took the real DRACO had a super shiny paint scheme and I think yours should too. Other than that DRACO is incredible and I love it. Check out my videos on my channel. I got some good ones too 👍👍😎✌👊
What type of weight did you add? This plane is a BEAUTY, and DOES deserve the best treatments ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian. I am not sure of the added weight to the plane but I used 2 cans of polychrylic. Spray cans that is. And it doesn't effect the flight quality at all. Sure does brighten up the dull red from horizon. Just do it. You will thank me later ✌😎👊
It finally happened. I traded for a 'flown 3 times & dont like it', draco. Saturday 11/27/2021🤯
AWESOME!!! Now you can tell the guy (or gal) they were CRAZY ;) BUT FIRST - get more of their planes they "didn't like" :) Good for you!!!!