Thanks for this video, i seen a lot a OSMO 4 videos on the internet but all of those are oversharpened, overexposed footage and I thought the DJI camera is bad because in every Hero 12 vs Osmo 4 comparision i saw, always the GoPro has the better colors and a softer image, now i see, its just settings and user error.
I appreciate your feedback. Yes, when I test cameras I like to test different settings and then provide footage that shows some of the best that the camera can capture and not just the default, out-of-box settings.
Having used the Hero and Osmo, I can confirm the Osmo's colors blow ass. I've been using Hero cams since they released the first edition ever. Even my Hero 1 from over a decade ago has better color than the Osmo. Half the time I use mine, it turns everything pure magenta like it has no idea what to do in shots that shift between dirt, grass, or sky. Its wrong a majority of the time and forces me to spend hours color grading.
I have just bought the Action 4 and I've had already the Hohem M6. Thinking it would work. But sadly I have noticed that I can't use it together. Because the M6 is made for a smartphone. So I can't see what I'm shooting because the telephone holder blocks the screen! Feel ready sad about it and didn't think of this before...
This is awesome, watching this video, I have gotten an even deeper understanding for using my Da Vinci Resolve. Brand transcending tutorials 🙂 Recently got and Osmo Action 4 and any advice and pointers towards settings for use in wilderness/forest is highly appriciated - Think hunting type recordings.
If I used your settings and the ND filters- but no gimbal and just used the internal stabilization, will that still be ok? Or will the stabilization be off? Thank you!
Great question. If you want to keep RockSteady on the only adjustment you’d want to make is set the shutter speed range to the 1/200 - 1/8000 setting. This will prevent your shutter speed from going slower than 1/200 if you go into lower light. Slower than 1/200 will introduce ghosting and jitter.
Thank you very much for the useful description of how to use the Osmo Action 4! I use this camera for my FPV drone, so a gimbal is not possible, but Gyroflow is. My question is, does the video quality remain intact if I use the 180-degree shutter speed rule with an ND filter and then stabilize with Gyroflow, or does the shutter speed need to be at least 1/200 as set with RockSteady? So far, I haven't used any ND filters and am missing the motion blur. Before I buy the expensive ND filters, I want to make sure. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to your response.
I have a video I am releasing soon that will discuss the specifics of this and how to use ND filters with RockSteady on. If you do 4K60fps with a shutter speed of 1/240 and the proper ND filter to balance exposure there will still be plenty of motion blur in your footage and you won’t have to worry about stabilizing in post.
@@GreatDayForAHike So you think it's better to film FPV drone videos at 50 or 60 fps instead of 25/30? If I understood correctly, stabilization with Gyroflow doesn't work very well with a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/60? Thank you very much for your help! P.S.: A detailed tutorial on Gyroflow would be very helpful, as there is hardly any information available online... ;)
I used a Action 4 my first time, the video at rimes looked rocky as if i was on a boat. Since it was my first time i used tne camera tne first time. What should i do next time i shoot? It seems for the cinematic mode in most cases you don't recommend rock steady😮. Please advise, i actually took notes from your video, also i don't jave a gimbal. Thx!
Hello sir, Mohit here from India. A little off topic question here though. I am really confused between Ace pro and Action 4 and I am aware that you have done an extensive video to compare pocket 3, Hero 12, ace pro and action 4 (that's how I landed on this video). I unfortunately cant buy pocket 3 as I want waterproof capabilty otherwise I would have loved that. My question is on the minimum focal disctance of the Ace pro which hardly anyone is talking about and the subject even at 40-60 cms from the camera isnt in focus. Is that something that you have also noticed? The minimum focal distance on action 4 is way lower than the acepro but acepro is probably the latest "tech and features' wise today because of which I am considering a lot but dont want to end up making the wrong decision. I will be thankful if you can share your thoughts on this. My primary use will be camping/ landscape videos, night lapses, hyper lapses and nothing around sports acitivities.
Hi there, thanks for sharing this video. I’ve just invested in my first action 4, converted from GoPro, I use my cameras mainly for fishing videos, living in the U.K. we suffer a lot of grey skies and windy days, Which settings would you suggest in order to get the best results? I’m still a bit of a novice when it comes to video creation, I would love to be able to grow my channel, My action 4 hasn’t learned how to work me yet 😂😂😂 Thanks again Sir. A new subscriber.
Im looking for using dji osmo action 4 on a scooter and for hiking purposes.I am interested in buying the ND filters but not the gimbal. Is this possible without stabilisation issues ?
Yes, you can still use ND filters to get a slower, more pleasing shutter speed while still keeping RockSteady on. The trick is to manually set your shutter speed range on the Action 4 to a range of 1/200 - 1/8000. Doing this will ensure your shutter speed doesn’t get too slow and cause ghosting and jitter with the EIS. The way the ND filter helps is if it’s a bright, sunny day your default shutter speed might be 1/1000 without an ND filter but adding an ND16 filter might enable you to get a balanced exposure at a shutter speed of 1/480 or 1/240. That slower shutter speed will look much more appealing and have some motion blur.
@@GreatDayForAHike I understand, thanks for this response, but if I plan to record my trip in 30 FPS for example, doesnt that mean that my shutter speed should be set to FIXED 1/60 for that cinematic look ? And if I set it to 1/60 and rocksteady is on, It will do ghosting, and if I turn stabilisation off, it will be shaky. I am speaking about action camera only, wouldnt be more efficient to add the motion blur in post ?
@Mr.Flex1992 Correct, that is why for that use I recommended keeping the shutter speed range at 1/200 - 1/8000 regardless of your frames per second to ensure you don’t have any ghosting or jitter in your footage. Yes, in some video editing programs you can add motion blur later on.
Thankyou for the great information, I just got my new osmo action 4, I am going to filming Mt.Everest basecamp trek. I need your assistance more. Keep following your tips and tricks. If you're interested join my trip.
Great video! I just wanted to understand if any of the smartphone gimbals from companies like DJI works with action cameras? Will it work out the box or do we have to somehow make it work? If you can help me with an explanation it would very useful
Amazing video, very informative. it's actually the sole reason that tipped the balance for me to buy the action 4 and I love the colour grading towards the end of the video. I just had one point to note though, I think there is something up with your audio/mic? listening to you on headphones I hear a scratching type sound under your vocal, tried other videos to make sure its not on my end but wanted to point it out for future videos perhaps. going to hazard a guess that its your wireless mic in your pocket as iv done that and it introduced similar artefacts
This distracted me greatly as well. It is unfortunate as I felt it was distracting from the video and all the great content that was there. I really appreciate all the work he clearly put into the development of the video and I'd rather have the information with the sound issue rather than not at all. So I'm glad he posted it, but I hope the lesson was learned as well.
Yes, thank you to both of you for sharing this feedback. I had an unfortunate mishap with my audio for some of this video. I have since made corrections that will prevent this.
man, too bad i couldnt do two thumbs up! this video is the very best ive seem not just for the action 4 but learning how to do cinematic techniques! man, keep making these types of videos! 👍🏾😎
I found this video to be an incredibly valuable resource packed with information that will help me improve my video and editing skills. So much information to absorb that I will be watching it over many times. I’m getting an Action 4 in the next couple of weeks so this will help me get off to an awesome start. Thank you!
Watched this after your beginners guide for OA4. This video made me subscribed. My primary video editor is Davinci but easy to translate everything you show here to that software. Great job
Great question. If using in good enough lighting the noise won’t be an issue but if in low lighting then you may notice more noise in your footage. You can put the noise adjustment back to 0 or keep it at -2 and remove it when editing. Either is an option.
I watch a lot of channels on this subject. I also have an instructional channel on YT and I'm told I am good. You sir, are excellent. You do have a verbal tick. "What you're gonna wanna do here is..." You are forgiven! Excellent content.
Thank you and I appreciate your feedback! Yes, I continue to work on constantly improving how I communicate as I want that to be as effective as possible for the ease of anyone who watches the video getting the most out of it. Thanks!
Thank you!! appreciate the advice. I can’t afford the expensive gimble, would it be ok to use Rocksteady or Rocksteady + in low light, or would a cheaper gimble be better?
Great video well done really helpful and some great tips!! I’m looking at buying either the Action 4 or Go pro 12 to do exactly what your doing here. Would you have a preference? Thanks in advance
Thank you and great question. I will have my hands on the Hero 12 this week. Based on what I know of the Hero 12 I expect the image quality to be about on par with the Hero 11. With the Action 4 I find the footage to be much better looking than what I got from the Action 3. Both cameras have a log profile that footage can be filmed in and then graded later on. When it was Hero 11 vs Action 3 the Hero 11 was the clear winner with footage detail and quality. With the Action 4 making gains I think this is closer to a draw now. With both cameras now priced at $399 it complicates this decision a bit more for consumers, too. Both cameras will get you good results with the right settings, especially using the log profiles and then grading. I will be doing an extensive comparison of both cameras once I have a chance to play with the Hero 12 for a bit.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you so much for taking the time to reply it’s so much appreciated!! I agree it’s a tough one but I’m leaning towards DJI at the moment but look forward to seeing your review of the GoPro 12 Thanks again
@@BlackdogmediaukI too was very confused at first between both these. But finally confidently decided to go with DJI. DJI has many more plus points in comparison with GoPro. It's D-Log M profile is better and more flat than the GoPro's more saturated one. The color grading will definitely be better. Plus way better Battery and charging. Reliable Software and hardware functions like quick capture mode. Quick and more effective Magnetic mounts. Way better Low Light performance. Wider field of view. Upto 18meter waterproof under water against 12-14m of GoPro. Only lacks a little in details in still photos which are taken in 10MP vs 27MP of GoPro. Rest daylight video quality is almost comparable. Hope this helps you in making your mind.
Hi there! I just got a Osmo Action 4 and want to learn some basics to make better videos. I have watched a bunch of your videos and really like them. I am just curios about the ND filters. I often record on my bicycle trips in shaky conditions, I wanted to know if it makes sense to use ND filters to get any good looking motion blur, for example when I mount the camera on my handle bar. Since I cannot use ND filters with RockSteady and shutter speed has to be at 1/50 (with 25fps), I don't know how to fix that problem. Can you help me? Using a gimbal is no option for me on my bike.
This is a great question and I can help with this. The ND filters can still be useful to accomplish a slower shutter speed even if you don’t fulfill the 180 degree shutter angle. What I would do is adjust the shutter speed range to 1/200 - 1/8000. This will prevent the shutter speed from going any slower than 1/200. By doing this you can then keep RockSteady on but also use an ND filter to force the Action 4 to use a slower shutter speed. Example: You’re biking on a sunny day and the default shutter speed on your Action 4 without an ND filter is 1/1000. You pop on the ND16 or ND32 filter and your shutter speed drops to 1/240. That footage filmed with a shutter speed of 1/240 will still look more pleasing than the footage with a shutter speed of 1/1000 even if it doesn’t fulfill the 180 degree shutter angle. Basically the ND filter allows you to capture footage with a slower shutter speed.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you for your quick response! Would it make sense to record in 1/50SS, 25fps + ND Filter turning RockSteady off and stabilize the video in post production? Is post production stabilization any good in this case? If so, which program do you recommend?
@moso8387 You could try this. A free tool named Gyroflow is useful for stabilizing in post, but you do have to make sure you’re in one of the modes that provides gyro data on the Action 4 (lens has to be Wide and a few other settings matter). In this video I show those settings that matter for the gyro data being available: ruclips.net/video/d36laQxaRHA/видео.htmlsi=PHDQtv5_66Wl0hS_ That being said, sometimes Gyroflow cannot stabilize properly when the shutter speed is that slow. So I recommend doing some test clips first with the gyro data and see if you’re happy with the results before filming an entire adventure that way.
hello, I am going to purchase DJI Action 4 for my thru-hike trip this year- virtually 5months in the USA wilderness. I have about 4 months to get acquainted with it. I practiced whole 2023shooting and filming with Samsung S23 Ultra, for obvious reasons postprocessing in this mobile too (Adobe Ligthroom, Powerdirector). It produces very good quality photos and movies. However, for real field shootig and filming, mobile phone is still difficult to operate at some circumstances. Many times, you don't want to pull your bottle out to drink, you are simply too tired to make this simple operation...). Intention is to have Action 4 ready at backpack strap, plus use it fastened at hiking pole or hat. Intention is not to make a video log from the trip, but rather catch nice short reels to document trail beauty - similar to examples you presented here.There are some immediate hints I can get from your video, like shutter fixed at 1/200 with rocksteady on, ratio 4:3...). Do you have any further advice, how to setup this nice device for easy handling and if possible with consistent output? I am much more stronger in photoshooting than in video making yet...
4:57 damn these ND filters seem to be way too loose for action camera. I imagine these will fall off before you reach 100km/h (mounted to motorcycle helmet)and turn your head to the side.
I’m not aware of there being a variable ND filter that exists for the Action 4. At the time I acquired these ND filters I did not see any variable options. Are you aware of a variable ND filter option for the Action 4? If so, I’d love to know about it. Thanks.
nice video!can i have 4k 50fps with 1/100 shutter and have the iso at a semi-automatic setting?(so when i go to dark areas the iso level up)i use nd filters at day.thanks
Going on a trip this June to a couple of national parks and this is a great video! Thank you so much for the information! Why do you recommend the lower frame rate? (~24fps)
I'm just researching my choice of camera to buy and considering the Action 4, but even if I don't buy the Action 4 I will come back to this video for help with grading.
Great question. There are some video editing techniques that could be used to accomplish this. I have not dabbled much with this with the Action 4, but if I test this out and find a reliable method I'll share this in a video.
Thank you! If you’re in bright light I’d recommend ND16 or ND32. If it’s cloudy or near sunset or sunrise try ND8. You can use the EV comp guide to show you how close you are to properly exposing the footage and then fine tune the exposure using the ISO.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you for your response! This video is a gem, I just filmed a trial footage in my action with your settings and there is a HUGE difference! thank you. By the way, when shooting running videos, would it be better to just stabilize the footage in gyrodata or rely with the on cam stabilization?
@user-ed5dl3xn1v Great question. This mostly depends on preference but if you are using a shutter speed slower than 1/200 I don’t recommend either in-camera or Gyroflow for stabilizing as these frames will be too slow for these to work well. I’d recommend a gimbal for those use cases. Shutter speeds at or above 1/200 you should be fine using either method to stabilize.
This is a great question and something I have also looked for. I have not (so far) found any anamorophic lens that exists for the Action 4. I'm hoping someone will create one as I'd love to buy one and test it out.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you very much for your fast response! I'm a very disappointing about the fact, ireal I don't know what the waiting. Number 3 and GoPro, they have all type of lens....
If you’re going to do vlogging and not any intense action sports or underwater filming then I recommend the Osmo Pocket 3 hands down. Impressive footage and more versatile use cases with the footage due to the focus capabilities and the mechanical stabilization.
Yes, the Action 4 will balance on it but it may be too light without some extra weight attached. I typically use a rubber band or Velcro strap to attach a power bank next to a lighter camera on a larger gimbal like that to ensure there is enough weight. Since that gimbal can support a pretty heavy payload it is important to have enough weight on it.
In general yes, and this is why I recommend a gimbal. If one is not using a gimbal and the 180 degree shutter angle isn’t desired then I mention I recommend the 1/200 or higher shutter speed.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks. At around the 9 minute mark you mention that if you shoot at 1/200 there's a way to add some pleasing motion blur in post. I watched the whole video, but I missed that part.
@greggh Yup, I did not go over that in this video because the core focus of this video is filming using parameters that apply the 180 degree shutter angle. This eliminates the need to add motion blur in post. If you do want to add motion blur, these are the steps for that process in Premiere Pro: helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/add-motion-blur.html
If you prefer to use a mirrorless camera, then great. Use a mirrorless camera. If one wants to use the Action 4 then this video is here to help teach one to get better video from the Action 4.
Seeing your video meant a lot to me. I had intended to get my first camera. I'm a total beginner who wants to take cinematic videos.I consequently watched a lot of videos about this camera. This video outperforms all others by far. This video taught me a lot of things. I was concerned that maybe I wouldn't be able to fulfill my dreams. Your video has given me more confidence right now. Thank you a lot.
"And to make this simple here, what we want to do is, we want to go through and make 3 dots. And we want to make those dots wherever the lines cross this way over the white line." 28:28 - What lines? I don't see any lines crossing over the white diagonal line.
There are three horizontal lines and three vertical lines. These lines are parallel and cross each other at three places. The diagonal white line is located where each of the three lines meet at their horizontal and vertical cross points.
I guess it depends on what your aim is for the video and how you choose to spend your time. Those affect how much you’ll want to invest into adjusting your video.
@@GreatDayForAHike as i understood 180 degree rule is only for gimbal or for rocksteady off? the only "100% must have 100%" is -03+03EV? unfortunately i dont have gimbal and ND filters and will not buy them for now as im not sure i will leave the camera. thanks for answers!
You don’t have to use a gimbal. The gimbal is for the 180 degree shutter rule. If this isn’t a want then RockSteady can be kept on and I recommend setting the shutter speed range from 1/200 to 1/8000.
You have the best Dji tutorial.
Thank you!
Thanks for this video, i seen a lot a OSMO 4 videos on the internet but all of those are oversharpened, overexposed footage and I thought the DJI camera is bad because in every Hero 12 vs Osmo 4 comparision i saw, always the GoPro has the better colors and a softer image, now i see, its just settings and user error.
I appreciate your feedback. Yes, when I test cameras I like to test different settings and then provide footage that shows some of the best that the camera can capture and not just the default, out-of-box settings.
Having used the Hero and Osmo, I can confirm the Osmo's colors blow ass. I've been using Hero cams since they released the first edition ever. Even my Hero 1 from over a decade ago has better color than the Osmo. Half the time I use mine, it turns everything pure magenta like it has no idea what to do in shots that shift between dirt, grass, or sky. Its wrong a majority of the time and forces me to spend hours color grading.
@@Solsticeson Maybe stop using auto white balance? Or do proper color grading.
I have just bought the Action 4 and I've had already the Hohem M6. Thinking it would work. But sadly I have noticed that I can't use it together. Because the M6 is made for a smartphone.
So I can't see what I'm shooting because the telephone holder blocks the screen! Feel ready sad about it and didn't think of this before...
This is awesome, watching this video, I have gotten an even deeper understanding for using my Da Vinci Resolve. Brand transcending tutorials 🙂 Recently got and Osmo Action 4 and any advice and pointers towards settings for use in wilderness/forest is highly appriciated - Think hunting type recordings.
Great content! Thank you for these videos 🙏🏼.
I appreciate it!
Amazing resource, so much information stuffed in it without any filler. Thanks!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
If I used your settings and the ND filters- but no gimbal and just used the internal stabilization, will that still be ok? Or will the stabilization be off? Thank you!
Great question. If you want to keep RockSteady on the only adjustment you’d want to make is set the shutter speed range to the 1/200 - 1/8000 setting. This will prevent your shutter speed from going slower than 1/200 if you go into lower light. Slower than 1/200 will introduce ghosting and jitter.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you! Ordered mine yesterday so I’ll try that out.
Dji osmo action 4 ia not 399$
Not anymore, but when this video was released it was $399.
I just ordered the osmo action 5 pro. Wish me best of luck
That’s exciting. I have the 5 Pro now too and love it already.
Thank you very much for the useful description of how to use the Osmo Action 4! I use this camera for my FPV drone, so a gimbal is not possible, but Gyroflow is. My question is, does the video quality remain intact if I use the 180-degree shutter speed rule with an ND filter and then stabilize with Gyroflow, or does the shutter speed need to be at least 1/200 as set with RockSteady? So far, I haven't used any ND filters and am missing the motion blur. Before I buy the expensive ND filters, I want to make sure. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to your response.
I have a video I am releasing soon that will discuss the specifics of this and how to use ND filters with RockSteady on. If you do 4K60fps with a shutter speed of 1/240 and the proper ND filter to balance exposure there will still be plenty of motion blur in your footage and you won’t have to worry about stabilizing in post.
@@GreatDayForAHike So you think it's better to film FPV drone videos at 50 or 60 fps instead of 25/30? If I understood correctly, stabilization with Gyroflow doesn't work very well with a shutter speed of 1/50 or 1/60? Thank you very much for your help! P.S.: A detailed tutorial on Gyroflow would be very helpful, as there is hardly any information available online... ;)
The mic is noisy - like it's located in your pocket.
Edit: It got fixed at at 5:19.
Yes it was an unfortunate problem with that one part of the video.
I used a Action 4 my first time, the video at rimes looked rocky as if i was on a boat. Since it was my first time i used tne camera tne first time. What should i do next time i shoot? It seems for the cinematic mode in most cases you don't recommend rock steady😮. Please advise, i actually took notes from your video, also i don't jave a gimbal. Thx!
there's a static noise in your commentary audio dude
Yup, there sure is. I apparently had an audio issue with my mic and Sony camera that day. It has since been resolved. It’s annoying though, I know.
Thousand thanks, fruitful content, really valuable tips far beyond than other RUclipsrs.
Thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated!
Hello sir, Mohit here from India. A little off topic question here though. I am really confused between Ace pro and Action 4 and I am aware that you have done an extensive video to compare pocket 3, Hero 12, ace pro and action 4 (that's how I landed on this video). I unfortunately cant buy pocket 3 as I want waterproof capabilty otherwise I would have loved that. My question is on the minimum focal disctance of the Ace pro which hardly anyone is talking about and the subject even at 40-60 cms from the camera isnt in focus. Is that something that you have also noticed? The minimum focal distance on action 4 is way lower than the acepro but acepro is probably the latest "tech and features' wise today because of which I am considering a lot but dont want to end up making the wrong decision. I will be thankful if you can share your thoughts on this. My primary use will be camping/ landscape videos, night lapses, hyper lapses and nothing around sports acitivities.
Hi there, thanks for sharing this video.
I’ve just invested in my first action 4, converted from GoPro,
I use my cameras mainly for fishing videos, living in the U.K. we suffer a lot of grey skies and windy days,
Which settings would you suggest in order to get the best results? I’m still a bit of a novice when it comes to video creation, I would love to be able to grow my channel, My action 4 hasn’t learned how to work me yet 😂😂😂
Thanks again Sir.
A new subscriber.
Im looking for using dji osmo action 4 on a scooter and for hiking purposes.I am interested in buying the ND filters but not the gimbal. Is this possible without stabilisation issues ?
Yes, you can still use ND filters to get a slower, more pleasing shutter speed while still keeping RockSteady on. The trick is to manually set your shutter speed range on the Action 4 to a range of 1/200 - 1/8000. Doing this will ensure your shutter speed doesn’t get too slow and cause ghosting and jitter with the EIS.
The way the ND filter helps is if it’s a bright, sunny day your default shutter speed might be 1/1000 without an ND filter but adding an ND16 filter might enable you to get a balanced exposure at a shutter speed of 1/480 or 1/240. That slower shutter speed will look much more appealing and have some motion blur.
@@GreatDayForAHike I understand, thanks for this response, but if I plan to record my trip in 30 FPS for example, doesnt that mean that my shutter speed should be set to FIXED 1/60 for that cinematic look ? And if I set it to 1/60 and rocksteady is on, It will do ghosting, and if I turn stabilisation off, it will be shaky. I am speaking about action camera only, wouldnt be more efficient to add the motion blur in post ?
@Mr.Flex1992 Correct, that is why for that use I recommended keeping the shutter speed range at 1/200 - 1/8000 regardless of your frames per second to ensure you don’t have any ghosting or jitter in your footage. Yes, in some video editing programs you can add motion blur later on.
Thankyou for the great information, I just got my new osmo action 4, I am going to filming Mt.Everest basecamp trek. I need your assistance more. Keep following your tips and tricks. If you're interested join my trip.
Great video! I just wanted to understand if any of the smartphone gimbals from companies like DJI works with action cameras? Will it work out the box or do we have to somehow make it work? If you can help me with an explanation it would very useful
do you recommend 4k 4:3 even on 60 fps ???
If you want the ability to reframe later on vertically, then yes. If you don’t care about having that flexibility to reframe then 16:9 is fine.
Amazing video, very informative. it's actually the sole reason that tipped the balance for me to buy the action 4 and I love the colour grading towards the end of the video. I just had one point to note though, I think there is something up with your audio/mic? listening to you on headphones I hear a scratching type sound under your vocal, tried other videos to make sure its not on my end but wanted to point it out for future videos perhaps. going to hazard a guess that its your wireless mic in your pocket as iv done that and it introduced similar artefacts
This distracted me greatly as well. It is unfortunate as I felt it was distracting from the video and all the great content that was there. I really appreciate all the work he clearly put into the development of the video and I'd rather have the information with the sound issue rather than not at all. So I'm glad he posted it, but I hope the lesson was learned as well.
Yes, thank you to both of you for sharing this feedback. I had an unfortunate mishap with my audio for some of this video. I have since made corrections that will prevent this.
Any free alternatives for editing program?
davinci
I agree that the DaVinci free option is a great choice.
Maybe next time, not film the settings having the camera wobble the whole time on your hands.
Thank you for your feedback and I have noted this.
man, too bad i couldnt do two thumbs up! this video is the very best ive seem not just for the action 4 but learning how to do cinematic techniques! man, keep making these types of videos! 👍🏾😎
Thank you! I really appreciate your feedback and support.
Best video ever made
Thank you.
Great info. Very helpful!
(I could do with lots of the cut zoom, in out in out. It’s distracting)
Thanks and noted.
I found this video to be an incredibly valuable resource packed with information that will help me improve my video and editing skills. So much information to absorb that I will be watching it over many times. I’m getting an Action 4 in the next couple of weeks so this will help me get off to an awesome start. Thank you!
man, thanks for moving that mic out of your pocket.. it was driving me nuts....
Absolutely. I have a better solution now with a good shotgun mic and my apologies for the audio issues.
Watched this after your beginners guide for OA4. This video made me subscribed. My primary video editor is Davinci but easy to translate everything you show here to that software. Great job
Thank you for your feedback and support. DaVinci is a great choice for grading. Thanks.
Tell me, is the picture in your d-log also making terrible noise?? In standard everything is ok, apparently the noise reduction works.
Great question. If using in good enough lighting the noise won’t be an issue but if in low lighting then you may notice more noise in your footage. You can put the noise adjustment back to 0 or keep it at -2 and remove it when editing. Either is an option.
I have an rsc2 that would be funny to use with a little action cam but I love that gimbal even more than the newer ones
Truly AMAZING colour design thank you I have learnt so much from this video.
Thank you for your feedback and I’m glad you found this helpful.
I watch a lot of channels on this subject. I also have an instructional channel on YT and I'm told I am good. You sir, are excellent. You do have a verbal tick. "What you're gonna wanna do here is..." You are forgiven! Excellent content.
Thank you and I appreciate your feedback! Yes, I continue to work on constantly improving how I communicate as I want that to be as effective as possible for the ease of anyone who watches the video getting the most out of it. Thanks!
Can you please reduce amount of huge white text in your videos?
Yes, I can.
Thank You, great lesson on both the Action 4 and editing. Look forward to seeing more tips!
I appreciate it and thank you for your support!
Good info. For this type of video, I would say it would be better without a music track.
Thanks for sharing your perspective and input.
the sound is strange.. keep your mic our of your pocket next time :)
I know. Problem has been resolved after the issues with this one 😂
Yeah was running to comments to tell you this. The mic under your shirt.. thanks for the great vid tho 🎉
very informative! mic issues btw, shirt material noise v noticeable
Thanks. Yes, regrettably I had some mic issues that day. I have measures in place to prevent this now.
Thank you!! appreciate the advice. I can’t afford the expensive gimble, would it be ok to use Rocksteady or Rocksteady + in low light, or would a cheaper gimble be better?
Great video well done really helpful and some great tips!!
I’m looking at buying either the Action 4 or Go pro 12 to do exactly what your doing here. Would you have a preference? Thanks in advance
Thank you and great question. I will have my hands on the Hero 12 this week. Based on what I know of the Hero 12 I expect the image quality to be about on par with the Hero 11. With the Action 4 I find the footage to be much better looking than what I got from the Action 3. Both cameras have a log profile that footage can be filmed in and then graded later on. When it was Hero 11 vs Action 3 the Hero 11 was the clear winner with footage detail and quality. With the Action 4 making gains I think this is closer to a draw now.
With both cameras now priced at $399 it complicates this decision a bit more for consumers, too. Both cameras will get you good results with the right settings, especially using the log profiles and then grading. I will be doing an extensive comparison of both cameras once I have a chance to play with the Hero 12 for a bit.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you so much for taking the time to reply it’s so much appreciated!!
I agree it’s a tough one but I’m leaning towards DJI at the moment but look forward to seeing your review of the GoPro 12
Thanks again
@woodsidecottage4603 you’re welcome! I don’t think you can go wrong with either choice at this point.
@@BlackdogmediaukI too was very confused at first between both these. But finally confidently decided to go with DJI. DJI has many more plus points in comparison with GoPro. It's D-Log M profile is better and more flat than the GoPro's more saturated one.
The color grading will definitely be better. Plus way better Battery and charging. Reliable Software and hardware functions like quick capture mode. Quick and more effective Magnetic mounts. Way better Low Light performance. Wider field of view. Upto 18meter waterproof under water against 12-14m of GoPro.
Only lacks a little in details in still photos which are taken in 10MP vs 27MP of GoPro. Rest daylight video quality is almost comparable.
Hope this helps you in making your mind.
Thank you for moving the mic out of your pocket. :)
I’ve since greatly improved how I configure my microphone when outdoors and understand the importance of good audio.
Hi there! I just got a Osmo Action 4 and want to learn some basics to make better videos. I have watched a bunch of your videos and really like them. I am just curios about the ND filters. I often record on my bicycle trips in shaky conditions, I wanted to know if it makes sense to use ND filters to get any good looking motion blur, for example when I mount the camera on my handle bar. Since I cannot use ND filters with RockSteady and shutter speed has to be at 1/50 (with 25fps), I don't know how to fix that problem. Can you help me? Using a gimbal is no option for me on my bike.
This is a great question and I can help with this. The ND filters can still be useful to accomplish a slower shutter speed even if you don’t fulfill the 180 degree shutter angle. What I would do is adjust the shutter speed range to 1/200 - 1/8000. This will prevent the shutter speed from going any slower than 1/200. By doing this you can then keep RockSteady on but also use an ND filter to force the Action 4 to use a slower shutter speed.
Example: You’re biking on a sunny day and the default shutter speed on your Action 4 without an ND filter is 1/1000. You pop on the ND16 or ND32 filter and your shutter speed drops to 1/240. That footage filmed with a shutter speed of 1/240 will still look more pleasing than the footage with a shutter speed of 1/1000 even if it doesn’t fulfill the 180 degree shutter angle. Basically the ND filter allows you to capture footage with a slower shutter speed.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you for your quick response! Would it make sense to record in 1/50SS, 25fps + ND Filter turning RockSteady off and stabilize the video in post production? Is post production stabilization any good in this case? If so, which program do you recommend?
@moso8387 You could try this. A free tool named Gyroflow is useful for stabilizing in post, but you do have to make sure you’re in one of the modes that provides gyro data on the Action 4 (lens has to be Wide and a few other settings matter). In this video I show those settings that matter for the gyro data being available: ruclips.net/video/d36laQxaRHA/видео.htmlsi=PHDQtv5_66Wl0hS_
That being said, sometimes Gyroflow cannot stabilize properly when the shutter speed is that slow. So I recommend doing some test clips first with the gyro data and see if you’re happy with the results before filming an entire adventure that way.
hello, I am going to purchase DJI Action 4 for my thru-hike trip this year- virtually 5months in the USA wilderness. I have about 4 months to get acquainted with it. I practiced whole 2023shooting and filming with Samsung S23 Ultra, for obvious reasons postprocessing in this mobile too (Adobe Ligthroom, Powerdirector). It produces very good quality photos and movies. However, for real field shootig and filming, mobile phone is still difficult to operate at some circumstances. Many times, you don't want to pull your bottle out to drink, you are simply too tired to make this simple operation...). Intention is to have Action 4 ready at backpack strap, plus use it fastened at hiking pole or hat. Intention is not to make a video log from the trip, but rather catch nice short reels to document trail beauty - similar to examples you presented here.There are some immediate hints I can get from your video, like shutter fixed at 1/200 with rocksteady on, ratio 4:3...). Do you have any further advice, how to setup this nice device for easy handling and if possible with consistent output? I am much more stronger in photoshooting than in video making yet...
4:57 damn these ND filters seem to be way too loose for action camera. I imagine these will fall off before you reach 100km/h (mounted to motorcycle helmet)and turn your head to the side.
Just curious why you didn't opt for a variable ND filter for an action camera.
I’m not aware of there being a variable ND filter that exists for the Action 4. At the time I acquired these ND filters I did not see any variable options. Are you aware of a variable ND filter option for the Action 4? If so, I’d love to know about it. Thanks.
@@GreatDayForAHike I saw Freewell had one listed on B&H (#FW-OA-VND). But I see that it's now listed as "no longer available".
Thanks, man! The best tutorial what I find.
You’re welcome and I appreciate the feedback!
Good day, could you please advise me on the settings for dji osmo action 4 for traveling and riding a motorcycle on light terrain, thank you
nice video!can i have 4k 50fps with 1/100 shutter and have the iso at a semi-automatic setting?(so when i go to dark areas the iso level up)i use nd filters at day.thanks
Going on a trip this June to a couple of national parks and this is a great video! Thank you so much for the information!
Why do you recommend the lower frame rate? (~24fps)
I'm just researching my choice of camera to buy and considering the Action 4, but even if I don't buy the Action 4 I will come back to this video for help with grading.
Hello, friend! This camera is better than SJ Cam 11 Activ?
Hi, can i ask you if it's possible make a bokeh effect with action 4?
If yes, how i can doing?
Sorry for my english😅
Great question. There are some video editing techniques that could be used to accomplish this. I have not dabbled much with this with the Action 4, but if I test this out and find a reliable method I'll share this in a video.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thaks for fast answer, and congratulation for your video...always exsaustive.
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@discoverersfamilyoverland5867 Thank you. Much appreciated.
but if i'm a small channel and I upload is it going to make a difference? I get that crap codec right until I'm bigger channel?
Hi I have an insta 360 one x 2 ,I can edit straight from the camera please can you tell if dji osmo action 4 can thanks 😊
Great video! What would ND filter strength would you recommend when shooting a running video with osmo action 4, thank you
Thank you! If you’re in bright light I’d recommend ND16 or ND32. If it’s cloudy or near sunset or sunrise try ND8. You can use the EV comp guide to show you how close you are to properly exposing the footage and then fine tune the exposure using the ISO.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you for your response! This video is a gem, I just filmed a trial footage in my action with your settings and there is a HUGE difference! thank you. By the way, when shooting running videos, would it be better to just stabilize the footage in gyrodata or rely with the on cam stabilization?
@user-ed5dl3xn1v Great question. This mostly depends on preference but if you are using a shutter speed slower than 1/200 I don’t recommend either in-camera or Gyroflow for stabilizing as these frames will be too slow for these to work well. I’d recommend a gimbal for those use cases. Shutter speeds at or above 1/200 you should be fine using either method to stabilize.
cool stuffs
Thanks
excellent tutorial.. thank you very much...
You’re welcome and I appreciate your feedback.
Really useful worfkflow, thank you for sharing!
You’re welcome and I appreciate your feedback.
Hello! I want to ask you something because I didn't find information about that. I tried to find if there are anamorphic lens for action 4 ? Thank you
This is a great question and something I have also looked for. I have not (so far) found any anamorophic lens that exists for the Action 4. I'm hoping someone will create one as I'd love to buy one and test it out.
Very much
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you very much for your fast response! I'm a very disappointing about the fact, ireal I don't know what the waiting. Number 3 and GoPro, they have all type of lens....
@minagalexe yes, great point.
Action 4 vs Pocket 3...which one to buy for vblogging?
If you’re going to do vlogging and not any intense action sports or underwater filming then I recommend the Osmo Pocket 3 hands down. Impressive footage and more versatile use cases with the footage due to the focus capabilities and the mechanical stabilization.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks a lot!
@nitinkumar29 You’re welcome!
I already have the DJI RS3, will the Action 4 balance on that?
Yes, the Action 4 will balance on it but it may be too light without some extra weight attached. I typically use a rubber band or Velcro strap to attach a power bank next to a lighter camera on a larger gimbal like that to ensure there is enough weight. Since that gimbal can support a pretty heavy payload it is important to have enough weight on it.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks! I will try that!
@frankc.9853 You’re welcome!
I thought you need to shoot video in a higher shutter speed than 1/50 for Gyroflow to work effectively.
In general yes, and this is why I recommend a gimbal. If one is not using a gimbal and the 180 degree shutter angle isn’t desired then I mention I recommend the 1/200 or higher shutter speed.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks. At around the 9 minute mark you mention that if you shoot at 1/200 there's a way to add some pleasing motion blur in post. I watched the whole video, but I missed that part.
@greggh Yup, I did not go over that in this video because the core focus of this video is filming using parameters that apply the 180 degree shutter angle. This eliminates the need to add motion blur in post. If you do want to add motion blur, these are the steps for that process in Premiere Pro: helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/add-motion-blur.html
What a vid! Thank you so much for all that!
I appreciate it and I appreciate your feedback!
Excellent video, Many thanks!
Loving your detailed content 😊
Thank you and I appreciate your feedback.
wth is happening??? i just bought the action3!!!
DJI released the Osmo Action 4 less than a year after the Osmo Action 3. I was surprised too.
I think DJI was worried about their reputaion and sales dropping from the reported focus issues from the Action 3.
Whatever it was, the Action 4 is a great camera and I really like mine.
Bugger I just bought my first 4…it’s amazing!
@jezzylawson936 Yes, it’s a great camera.
Not only an educational but inspiring video. Thank you!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
Hello, the second gimble the mid tier one isnt sold any alternatives?
Great video many thanks!!
Thank you. I appreciate your feedback!
well deserved@@GreatDayForAHike
Any tips for cinematic for underwater footage in the sea? Like for freedivers/spearfishermen
why should i use gimbal with action camera? the better way is to use mirrorless camera instead of osmo
If you prefer to use a mirrorless camera, then great. Use a mirrorless camera. If one wants to use the Action 4 then this video is here to help teach one to get better video from the Action 4.
Very helpful. Thank you.
You’re welcome.
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Seeing your video meant a lot to me. I had intended to get my first camera. I'm a total beginner who wants to take cinematic videos.I consequently watched a lot of videos about this camera. This video outperforms all others by far. This video taught me a lot of things. I was concerned that maybe I wouldn't be able to fulfill my dreams. Your video has given me more confidence right now. Thank you a lot.
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amazing tips
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"And to make this simple here, what we want to do is, we want to go through and make 3 dots. And we want to make those dots wherever the lines cross this way over the white line." 28:28 - What lines? I don't see any lines crossing over the white diagonal line.
There are three horizontal lines and three vertical lines. These lines are parallel and cross each other at three places. The diagonal white line is located where each of the three lines meet at their horizontal and vertical cross points.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the info. It's hard to see in the video.
@greggh Yes those lines are not as thick or pronounced as the RGB curve lines.
i have a question. when should i shoot a video if all my life will be spend for adjustments? :)
I guess it depends on what your aim is for the video and how you choose to spend your time. Those affect how much you’ll want to invest into adjusting your video.
@@GreatDayForAHike as i understood 180 degree rule is only for gimbal or for rocksteady off? the only "100% must have 100%" is -03+03EV? unfortunately i dont have gimbal and ND filters and will not buy them for now as im not sure i will leave the camera. thanks for answers!
Yes, you are correct on when the 180 degree shutter angle can be used.
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Thank you.
There's gotta be a gimbal and moderately priced😮
You don’t have to use a gimbal. The gimbal is for the 180 degree shutter rule. If this isn’t a want then RockSteady can be kept on and I recommend setting the shutter speed range from 1/200 to 1/8000.
@@GreatDayForAHike OK, I ask because I saw on another channel the gimbal works better than the rock steady as so far as overall picture quality. Tjx!
Thanx man
You’re welcome.