DWP's Shocking Treatment of Disabled Individuals During PIP Assessments
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2024
- In this eye-opening video, we shed light on the disturbing reality faced by disabled individuals undergoing assessments by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP). With firsthand accounts and compelling evidence, we reveal the unthinkable: disabled people are being forced into humiliating situations, including soiling themselves, during these assessments. Join us as we uncover the injustices and demand accountability for the dignity and rights of all individuals, regardless of ability. It's time to bring attention to these unacceptable practices and advocate for change. Watch now to learn more and join the conversation.
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Absolutely horrific and demeaning. How are these assessments allowed to happen
Thanks for the shout out 😁 it really goes to show the lack of compassion and empathy of some assessors. My assessment was 2 hours and I felt that was long, particularly when 90% of the information I gave was a repeat of what was on the form and in the documents I sent. She had read them as she asked me some very specific questions around the content in the documents. They should be able to look at the form and work out if its a more complex case and going to take more than the standard hour and give you a more realistic time.
Thank you for providing the information which we otherwise may have missed ! sorry to hear yours was that long it seems a little long winded thats for sure, and your right 90% of the stuff you provide and answer is already on the dam form they choose not to read it.
It's ridiculous how many times they ask you the same questions, it's obvious that they are trying to catch you out, but they ignore the answers you give them because you rarely get the points that you should or the money.
Absolutely outrageous that this poor woman had to suffer such cruelty and suffering from the DWP, just proves what we all know how far they will go to make your claim as difficult as possible, disgraceful🤬
I had a fall, in the garden, and banged my head just before my assessor arrived. I had obvious concussion, was confused and dazed. She made me sit through a 2.5 hr assessment (without concern for my e wellbeing) and said in her report that I was well kempt (even tho my clothes had mud all over them). I'm currently waiting for my next assessment.
I was sent for assessment (stomach disease) and they failed me because 'he sounded coherent and concise'
Absolutely disgraceful! The "assessor" was probably on a bonus. I hope she sues the backside out of them.
agreed, unfortunetly people still dont beleive they are paid a Bonus despite multiple evidence, whistle blowing and stories.
Omg 😡🤬 I have words for these people makes me so ANGRY 😡
100%.
Being a disabled person myself i find their behaviour absolutely disgusting im housebound and i had them turn up on boxing day i have spinal arthritis and bone erosion in my shoulders they were trying to make me do things im incapable of doing its inhumane the way they treat people with disabilities
@wendymudkins8208 - Partly it is their attitude, partly it seems to be a postcode lottery. A friend could not get to their assessment centre because it was upstairs! (I am not joking) so they were visited at home and were not even asked to walk - at all - by the assessor, who was apologetic about the situation. The assessor still made loads of mistakes, but my friend got their PIP.
Thank you for this
No problem 😊
🙏👍💥 let’s stop this systemic problem within the dwp harassment and discrimination towards disabled persons thanks for all your videos champ 🙏👍💥👍💥👏👏👏
Before my first PIP assessment I phoned them to ask for it recording, I used a local phone box to make the call it cost me over £5 for the call, I could have withheld my number but a friend had told me he did this and they were cut off every time he called them to ask for his assessment to be recorded in early 2014. When I turned up they said the recording equipment wasn't available but I had covertly started recording from when I was outside the centre. My daughter said I should go ahead with the assessment, I didn't want too, but said I would have the assessment anyway. When I got outside I took the Dictaphone out of my pocket and turned it off, even my daughter didn't know I'd recorded it but I downloaded it to my PC when I got home and it was clear that the assessor was trying to get answers that didn't relate to any of my medical conditions. I had let my daughter answer all the questions they asked and just didn't say anything when the first question was asked so she had to refer to my daughter with the questions asked as I just sat there looking dumb when she later asked me a question later on and I said nothing. In the report I sent for as a FOI it stated that I had answered the question she had asked me but later referred to the question that she asked me that my daughter had answered it. You couldn't make it up, but I got an award of enhanced on both parts of PIP. It's a pity the PC's HDD broke a few months after I had downloaded the recording but by that time I had being awarded the enhanced rates of PIP.
Thanks for the news but its shocking behaviour from the DWP I hope everyone gets to take legal action the DWP
The whole process is punishing. It beats you down. I had a 3 hour PIP home assessment. I had fatigue and whole body arthritis, brain fog, crohns and UC, EDS, and 3 hours of trying to interact, answer a constant stream of questions. By the end I was a mental wreck as mental and physical fatigue took over after the first hour. Afterwards I was worried that I was so confused and fatigued I had not been able to answer the repeated questions consistantly or recall if I had been prompted to answer a particular way. This was about 8 years after I had qualified for DLA in 2008, so a long time with progressively disabling conditions that don't get better! After all that the award was exactly the same as before, but I honestly thought it would be zero the way the "examination" (interrigation) went.
That treatment of this lady is nothing less than appalling and unacceptable, these assessor's seem to be heartless. I have no doubt at all that they catch a lot of abuse trying to do their job, but not holding the assement for this lady to go to the bathroom is just not acceptable.... Keep up the good work of bringing these DWP failings to the publics attention. Peter.
Should all the unqualified assessors who lie and deny claims find themselves permanently disabled, broke, homeless and denied PIP, I for one wouldn't shed a tear
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My son has a learning disability, also mental health problems, so any assessment that he has to go to, is detrimental to his health, when this benefit changed from DLA to PIP he lost his DLA and failed the assessment, he was at this time in his mid 30’s, so I set things up so someone could go with him and fight to get what he was due to! He has had this benefit since he was a child! He had to pay this person 70% for the backdated money, he now has got it back! I understand that the DWP are going to check and these type of people are going to be getting their money back, but they have to contact the DWP!
I don’t like in the uk anymore but we do talk a lot with each other!
Considering most face to face assessments don't normally last longer than about an hour and yet 3 hours on the phone for the person with bowel issues is awful!
That info needs to be sent to the UN, for what it's worth.
I doubt the UN would do anything
Research the scandals that the United Nations have been complicit in over the decades.
THEY are all part of the same club! UN included
The people doing these assessments are not medically qualified to do this job and you have to wonder how some of these people sleep at night it's a target driven assessment and hopefully what ever company did this are stripped of doing any assessments ever again
I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen because there's too much money involved and that's all. They're interested in making money for themselves and the company they work for. It's disgusting but we live in a world in which the one group of medically trained professionals in the NHS who should be doing it are being pushed further away from doing it and providing evidence 😢
@@DynamicDuoUK plus the fact that the assessments they do besides pip are being phased out which is a step in the right direction
We need to record our interactions with these people if we are able to
Thank you for the information l am sorry to hear that they need to be ashame of there self the person did the assessment three hours is discrimination and out of order and its need to be stop
I just told the lady I was going to the loo and that I couldn't hold it. I put the phone on mute and went. It should actually go in your favour tbh,
Yeh like if you need the toilet u need the toilet right?!
@@DynamicDuoUK exactly, I am not in school I do not need permission. I hope anyone reading my comment takes strength from it. I was having panic attacks before the call so Im not some tough nut, I just have to use the loo WHEN I have to use it!
Hi, I have only just found the channel, in the last couple of weeks, but it has been interesting. I am in receipt of PIP and get the full award, but only after a mandatory reassessment and the threat of a tribunal - DWP pulled out of the tribunal when they realised I wasn't going to be frightened into accepting a lower award simply to avoid the tribunal process. What happened to this lady is utterly horrible, it is not just "one of those things", it is thoughtless and cruel, but sadly, it doesn't surprise me.
When I had my pre-assessment, some time ago, I had bladder problems and needed to be able to get to the toilet quickly. I said this to the assessor on the phone and my pre-assessment still took well over the hour. This was partly because the person had a strong Geordie accent and every time I asked her to repeat a phrase, she could not do so without going back to the very beginning of that section of her script and repeating everything from the beginning of that section. She seemed unable to remember what she had just said and to reply to me without losing her place. This was worrying, in its own right, because it was clear she was not thinking about what she was saying and only repeating the script by rote. This made me worried that she might not get the correct information.
When I complained about this and about the time it was taking, she said she had emphysema, which made her speech less clear, and she had been on sick-leave. I felt sorry for her, but felt (and still feel) that if she was not capable of doing the job without losing her place or being able to clarify what she was saying without repeating every paragraph, then she should not have been doing the job, quite apart from her breathing problems.
In the end, she was angry at me for taking longer, as if my difficulties in understanding were entirely of my own making. As I had to repeat all of the information on the application form and most of it again at the actual assessment, I cannot see what use the pre-assessment is. The person on the phone cannot see the applicant, they cannot assess them, their disability or honesty, etc., so they should simply take contact details and send out the forms. When the forms arrived, they were stamped with "If you no longer wish to proceed with this claim, ring: . . ." The whole process is designed not only to catch fraudulent claimants but, to be as unpleasant and humiliating as possible, with little or no regard for the dignity or even the safety of claimants. It is utterly shameful that we are the only UN signatory to be in breach of disability rights provision.
Thank you for your comment and apologies I've not responded sooner. It's been an interesting read and I'd like to thank you for watching the channel supporting us. May you continue to do so and we wish you all the best for the future also. Have a good weekend. What's left of it!
@@DynamicDuoUK Thanks a lot. No worries, I know you are busy. I've been into outpatients, again and that keeps me from keeping up with email and stuff, let alone on top of comments on youtube. (Funny how youtube's own algorithm flags up youtube as wrong!) Have a good day.
Always record every interaction with anyone from the DWP or any one affiliated with it. NEVER EVER let anyone assessment ahead unless you have someone with you.
If you can't get anyone to be with you then DEMAND that your assessment is recorded and that you have a copy of that recording before they leave.
Also any evedience you had over, make a list of what you have given them , then make them clearly sign and date your list proving that they have your evidence and keel it safe.
But mist of all stay strong.
My sister helped complete my pip form yesterday and sent it off . After hearing this I am worrying about when and how my assessment will go 😮
Have you seen Charlie Anderson on RUclips? She has some very helpful videos on the assessment and how to practice for it. I recommend giving all her stuff a watch 😁
Id say I'm surprised but in all honesty I'm totally not. How utterly disgusting way to treat this lady. I am furious.
This is so sad isn't it and again its the ones that go un noticed untill someone speaks up for them, i can't beleive this when i read it i was shocked!
@@DynamicDuoUK it's awful. So disgusting the way they've treated her. She could consider going to The Big Issue with her story maybe? X
D.W.P are not compassionate or fair with their dissension.
Wow … would they do that to one of there family members ? That will be a big NO 😡😡😡
No they would not. They would aim to give them as much help as possible.
Besides being disabled from birth and at sixty severely mobility impaired, I suffer (at the very least) with severe IBS, diverticulitis and frequent prolonged bowel bleeds, I was made to wait for access to a toilet in the WCA offices in Ilford. When they finally escorted me to a toilet, there was no toilet paper. Glady I'm wise enough to always carry some, otherwise I might still be stuck in that disgustingly filthy staff toilet.
I'm currently 'patiently' waiting for my fourth PIP tribunal in almost as many years, to once again have my DLA severe disability entitlement reimbursed and fully reinstated AGAIN, after being slashed in half yet again and my mobility car entitlement (only means of independence) again denied for six months now, effectively reducing me to a widowed housebound pensioner, with no family or friends to rely on for support.
*DWP* = (Department of War on Pensions). 😡
Im sorry you are going through that, as if life isnt hard enough. It seems to me that its the luck of the draw rather than a genuine 'about your health' analysis. The system is failing. All the best in the next tribunal .
I was in an assessment for PIP, the nurse doing the assessment picked her nose, without tissue wiping her fingers wherever, I complained and was struck off, I went through an appeal by phone and was treated with disdain, then they took my life payments away. I have Epilepsy/Fibromyalgia and Arthritis... wtf is going on... I had no payments for 2/3 years, where it not for my family I would not have survived this indignation... and why tell me I have DLA for life then take it away?
Well at least you wrecked the nurse's life as well as her wrecking things for you. My next PIP assessment, like my previous ones will be recorded. I will ask the atossor which medical qualifications they have and which professional bodies are they part of.
Pension Credit also is given to pensioners that the Government deems to be needing it. After years of getting it they now have the bright idea that the lowest paid pensioners are now to be 'watched' and have a 'burden of proof' to justify what was granted to them beforehand. It's a cash grab to pay for the you know who brigade currently flooding in as the country has to be near bankrupt.
*Don't vote this coming general election.*
My god, picking her nose. What a disgusting THING she was. I dread to think how her kids act if she has any
@trac4967, did they not give you the option of going to Tribunal? I am sure that you would have won.
The DWP are just like the Gestapo, am now waiting for reply from the DWP after renewing my pip. Few months ago I won a tribunal with months of back pay. I do hope u succeed. Keep the pip DWP videos coming.
Sorry to hear that and thank you for your story! Will continue to produce content as such 😀
That's also my name for them they are herendous and scary😂
They have done the same thing with me am basically bed bound with a prolapsed bowel but they have no sympathy even wen you scream in pain down the phone 😢
I would be the same when u get stressed it happens to the best of us ...i told u my account was closed down by them .. i still cant go to start it up again 😢
Someone should take a test case of council tax arrears, some going back to the poll tax, being taken directly off claimants benefits when it’s not actually known how much is owed and when the arrears will be paid off. The claimant would win and there would be tens of thousands of people repaid at least some of the monies they paid.
WHY was a PIP assessment 3 hrs long? They by rights should be 60 mins max especially given the person was suffering from bowel cancer or recovering from it. Stories like like are about to explode given the DWP's rush to bring laws next year about how to assess and deal with the sickest and most helpless in society because if Labour dont get in then we will see the Tories try hard to remove welfare from existence as this has been their goal for 14 years
You think Starmer and his gaggle cares??
Labour are even worse. Research Rachel Reeves and what she plans to do to the disabled.
@curlers8798 While Thatcher's government kept Mobility Allowance/DLA, they were the ones to reduce a lifelong award to 70 years max and they began the undermining of the Welfare state and of the NHS. This lot are just more open and callous about it.
These peaple are stressing peaple out thay should be sacked and thay have no compassion
Absolutely disgusted in DWP & feel empathy with the unfortunate lady who was forced to soil herself. I am also absolutely disgusted in DWP & NHS equally as I have experienced like many others appalling treatment, open disrespect & in many cases what I would call abuse. I can’t speak about my experiences over the last 10 or more years as I get triggered; aside from physical I have CPTSD trauma from long term narcissistic abuse & since having to deal with nhs or DWP I find they hit all my triggers & I’ve lost total trust in them.
Psychopaths working within the sysytem.THEY are chosen for the level of evil
@planzed.2 I am sorry for you. My experience with DWP was very negative, but since PIP I have had more health issues and have been in and out of A&E and in and out of hospital/Rehab centres/out patients and surgery. I have mostly had really good care and really kind and respectful staff. The only problem was when an ambulance guy visited and refused to accept that my symptoms required hospital. He was supposed to be "very busy", but was still hanging about over an hour later, when the ambulance came to take me to hospital. He came back and began chatting to a male staff member from this second ambulance. Neither of them did anything to help me get into the ambulance and were both rude and dismissive, even when I was at risk from vomiting and did nothing to help me get into a safe position. The female paramedic and the staff at A&E were very helpful and, I think, quite annoyed at these two men. They are the only people I can think of in the last 5 years who were like that and I cannot think of anyone quite so bad every before. I do realise that some NHS areas seem to be a lot worse than mine. I am in a large city and A&E can be very busy, esp. at weekends, but apart from the time issue, no one has been rude or disrespectful. Indeed, one young person in A&E said it was better than their home town because the staff respected the young person's sexuality and how they wished to be addressed, which they hadn't experienced previously.
Smoking gun evidence which I have similar experience with DWP also awarded my PIP in early 2020 after exposing them to the United Nations also my Support Practitioner written to them on my behalf which the DWP breached Section 20 and Section 149 of the Equality Act 2010 as an example.
I’m disabled and in my assessment I literally and very genuinely fell of the little step underneath the bed that she assessed me on, it’s only because I grabbed hold of the assessor to steady myself that I didn’t end up on the floor. She lied and said there was no problem with my spacial awareness, balance or co-ordination (knowing full-well those were my disability symptoms that had just happened right in front of her). I’m honestly surprised she didn’t go all out and call security for bs ‘assault’ reasons.
Just proves to people how much of a bunch of liars they are and continue to do so despite being called out multiple times.
Is it not the priority of the government's,to get rid of you before they pay, i.e., pension or anything they pay you for. These assessors should be made accountable,but like all things to do with the government, they are untouchable.
Im waiting for my renewal of pip, i was terrified of adding any more ailments i have on my renewal form. Just happy with what i get.
@markh1940, but that is precisely why they make it difficult, even when you should get the full amount. They send it to mandatory reassessment and even to Tribunal, hoping that you will accept what they offer instead of what you could get. In my case, they dropped the Tribunal just before the hearing and gave me my full PIP, in other words, they were playing "chicken", even though it cost more money, more delays and more stress for me. When they get to Tribunal, they lose the majority of cases, so they clearly aren't prosecuting genuine fraud in most instances; they are just trying to frighten people into giving in. Every failed case costs loads more money, but they don't care about spending cash on trying to stop people claiming, they only resent giving money to those who need it.
Compared to when I first applied for a disabled vehicle (1970s) they have reduced the distance that you can walk and still qualify, supposedly to target those who really need it. But even if you can walk just past 20 metres, it is highly unlikely that you can find a bus stop less than 21 metres away and depending upon your disability, unlikely that you can get on. In my old home town, they are thinking of shutting down the only two bus routes that go to the estate where I lived. So, it won't matter what distance the disabled can manage, if they haven't got PIP they won't be able to afford the massively expensive taxis or the even more expensive private hire.
It's disgusting how people how we are all being treated now xx
Yes we have. Over more than 15 years. You will be appalled at what happened to us.
We were told no pension and sent a back to work interview and because no further call outs for disability was detailed at full rate since the early 2006, they made an excuse for one ignoring all letters that informed them their were in error they, stopped all money for refusal to attend and re assessment claim since the last time because, pensioners, women pensioners do not need food and shelter or disability money despite being informed by the G.P. a mobility vehicle would suit them for multi issues, it was made at change over from pension age to be swapped around and this resulted in loss of all movement and free will, and loss of mobility vehicle, this has resulted in being the target of being exposed in public and inability to keep warm, cool or rest, eat or drink or use small time frames to move around being forced in pain to stand , walk and travel, always in public like being watched being hurt
Now the D.W.P. have started TALKING DIRTY, they are very happy to take money and give it to thousands of others despite complaints of tax money being given away to thousands of them, and not a word is said about being fair to the British tax payer, not one, even though everyone is complaining, yet when it comes to our women`s rights to money from our heritage fed tax pot the D.W.P. are claiming that these women require to be pitched against the British tax payer in a statement that said " on considering Waspi women we must be fair to the British tax payer" what are you on about D.W.P. pointing fingers at these women that are fairly owed unlike the other ones that they pay money to just for coming here
Do not incite the targeting of English women to pay your debts, Waspi women are owed and it is nothing to do with where the D.W.P. are paying out to in taxes , or is it?
The windrush generator getting deported, contaminated blood victims scandal, councils going bankrupt due to population pressures (see national influx of recent years) and council's historical underpayment of female staff all now coming back to haunt the Government as there's no money left. Labour will be worse as that plank of wood they're lining up to be the prime minister wants back into Europe despite his hollow assurances. Vaccine injured individuals will have to fight for years to come for adequate payments and Reform will ironically reform nothing other than some business rules for Tice and his friends.
*Do not vote this coming general election.*
It is beyond disgusting how they have treated the waspis. I am 58 and do not think I will ever be able to retire.THEY want us dead so they do not have to pay out pensions, this is what I see! BUT will find money for other agendas, including illegal wars.
i put in a clain in may last year i finaly got my first pip payment this year and i have an appeal in against them as most of what i said was changed by assessor
@annmariesim1405, did you get your PIP in the end? Quite a lot of claims are turned down and then have "mandatory reassessment", they may get turned down again and be referred to Tribunal, but the DWP will then sometimes back down just before the Tribunal date - as they did in my case - or the DWP goes to Tribunal and in the majority of cases, loses. That is, they are both delaying payment and wasting money on the costs of the delays and the court costs of the Tribunal, even though they know they will almost certainly lose. The tactic of going as close to Tribunal date as possible is intended to frighten the client, in the hope that they will accept a lower payment rather than the Tribunal.
Why did it take 3 hours. The people at the DWP can't make you stay phone that long when you need the loo. I had two pip assessments from being put on the long term sick at age 59 . Started at £99 every 4 week to £560 . I have osteoarthritis in both knees and morbid obesity . I had to reapply twice the people doing the assessments . Have been very friendly . I get the Citizens Advice Bureau to fill from in. Because my hand write is poor . To be honest there doctor with better writing and me . Every time I've been assessed it has taken a hour each time . I recently had a universal credit review. My god this woman from universal credit could not be more unfriendly if she tried .
When my wife and I went to universal credit, they told us that specialist disability advisers were no longer available to the disabled clients; instead normal staff did the interviews and passed information on to the disability advisers, who made a decision without ever seeing or assessing the client. The guy refused to learn how to pronounce my first name and kept calling me "buddy". He also referred to my life-long disability as a "health issue" and demanded a sick-note, to be renewed by my doctor, every three months, to support my claim that I could not spend 35 hours a week in the job centre looking for work - with no accessible toilet and with the only toilet being on another floor with the additional requirement that all clients had to be accompanied to the toilet by a security guard. Explaining that my disability wasn't an illness or a health issue and wasn't going to get better had no impact on the interviewer. He did not care, it was water off a duck's back, except most ducks are nicer than he was. He was all smiles as long as we fitted his boxes, but as soon as I began to complain that I wasn't ill, I was disabled, he got chillier and chillier. His inability to pronounce my name was also my fault and I should not mind being called "bud" or "buddy".
Possibly down to the number of conditions or the complexity of them, I have 7 conditions, a couple are quite complex and mine took 2 hours and some parts were quite rushed even at that. Just going through the conditions and confirming meds, side effects etc at the end took about 45 minutes. So I can see if you have a lot going on it takes longer than the 1 hour they state in the letter. My assessor too was ok, she said she was a nurse and seemed knowledgeable about 1 of my conditions, but it's clear parts of the assessment process are to try and catch you out. My consultants letters I sent in listed the majority of the information they needed as did my form. The process could have been shorter and in my honest opinion if you have sent in recently dated letters as evidence they should be taking the information given by a doctor rather than making you go through it all again.
Ok the conditions you suffer from. Can make the assessment go longer and a hour . At the point I needed the loo I would end the call . It would not matted what the person from the DWP said at that point. They can't stop you from use the loo. I do realise that some people are more timid and I am . I am not . There two things that don't work on my body knees and legs . Rest me work fine
These telephone assesments are stupid, 9 times out of ten you rememember something you should have mentioned and there is no call back number or no office address of the person calling you and no surname of the person calling you so that you can contact them, what is the point of giving all your most personal information to a person who cannot be contacted? I will not be answering the phone to any unknown numbers and will not speak to anyone who will not give me a call back number and a surname so they can be traced.
Exactly this, 10 minutes after coming off my assessment I thought about one of the last questions we discussed and was like "oh man I missed saying that...." and I had 3 pages of notes!
I think most of the assessments are ridiculous. What happened to the day when they just used to go on medical evidence and give you an award? Lately, it seems that you're guilty until proven innocent with them. It's completely shocking how they treat disabled people and how they attempt to trick you with multiple questions leading to the same answers. They're an absolute joke.
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Truly discusting
Disgusting but am i shocked, no. We are treated worse than animals.
Shame on the DWP!
i have been waiting for nerly 8 mounths for them to make a decision on my pip and i am still waiting
Wow thats a long time, i know there is a bit of a backlog at the moment but its the waiting that is the worst.
What's happening in the meantime? Are they making you sign on?
@@DynamicDuoUKI know someone who also waited that long and you only get one month of backdated money.
i dont even know whats happing with my case when i call they dont tell me anything that i am in a que@@DynamicDuoUK
no i am curtly lucky i am not@@bigbabatunde1218
I was assessed wrongly years ago and got a backdated payment of almost £20k
I knew I was being robbed but was too scared to appeal
They also knew part of my condition is 'Not being able to manage finances, especially large amounts'
So it was frittered away in no time, so called friends took advantage as I have mental health issues as well, however in those 5yr when I didn't get that money, I lost several teeth which that money would've paid for as my dentist was going to help, but I couldn't afford it
Plus they kept the interest
That was about 2yr ago, now I'm up for an assessment again ?
I have a degenerative complex back problem from a rare form of polio when I was a child, no surgery can help now
I'm sure I have a letter somewhere saying 'Your condition isn't going to improve so we won't ask for anymore assessments' but they are saying that was only for covid?
Just feel awfully drained....
Phone assessments are a joke, they know it goes in their favour.
After my assessment I wrote a letter of complaint to the assessment center in Stockton.
The response was,due to the clinical nature of your complaint we've sent it to an independent reviewer.
They agreed with me and told dwp to change the descriptors and reinstate my points.
Which they did.
It just shows you
Brilliant outcome !
What can be done about it?
It would seem not a lot. 🙁🤬
I had a phone assessment a few days back. I was suprised when I was randomly asked what school qualifications I have? I thought that was totally bizarre seeing as I'm in my early 50's. Guessing that was some kind of cognitive test?
Basically yes it's to see if you had at any point ability to learn which obviously we all did, it's also apparently to see if you suffered from any learning difficulties some say it's to help you others say it's not, whenever they ask the question I tell people to answer what's that got to do with my condition?
Any more car reviews coming up love what you have achieved I couldn't dream of having what you have great job 💯👏👏👏
Thank you! Our lease is up and changing on our current car this week actually and we're picking up the replacement so could film that maybe? Just a daily vlog kinda thing, we're also in Sheffield in April for meetings so again could do something there potentially!
My friend had an pip assessment and was asked how many times a week she has sex with her husband. She sleeps apart from her hubbies because of chronic pain. But is it even legal to ask that?
That’s disgusting to ask that. I’d be tempted to say we include our pony and ping-pong-balls in the bedroom, at least 7 times a day and 14 on weekends 😂
That's crazy.
No not at all, firstly it has nothing to do with her disability or conditions, it sounds like the assessor wanted to find a way to trick her up Into telling her so she can say your fine .. they pretend to be your friend remember none of them are, they are there for one reason and one reason only.
I got turned down because they said i can plan a journey on my own . I told him i can only go in a taxi if someone is with me because of my memory issues or my son or his mrs do my shopping for me . otherwise I don't go out ..
They love to catch people out on that one. They either score you higher points in that section or the mobility moving around section. The best thing I found with the planning and following a route of a journey is how much stress that would cause you if you had to do it by yourself, for example, if you was in a car with your carer and a road was closed could you then change direction and find the location yourself etc without any help without causing distress if not then it's an auto 12 points regardless as what anyone else tells you, they love to lie and claim otherwise as they don't like being challenged. Remember they don't class a sat navigation as an aid which again is rubbish.
on my last assesment the interviewer was continuingly laffing after asking me if I had been on any courses to help with my condition's I said that i was put on a slimmers Couse I am seventy year old
Did I hear that right phone assessment more than 3 hours, and made to stay on the phone, what kind of assessment is 3 hours I thought thr maximum was 1 hour, the PIP have broke their own rules over 3 hours what did they want to hear in 3 hours
More like an interogation isn't it!
I bet she will still get 0 points
That's the sad truth isn't it
That is why you have mobile phones that you take into the bathroom with you. This could happen whoever is ringing.
I dont take my phone to the bathroom. I have an emergency pull chord.
@everyonecancraft70. Have you tried going to the toilet, with a bowel issue and kept a conversation going? It is embarrassing enough to be on the phone, to have to do the necessary whilst keeping the conversation going isn't easy and no, I will not put the phone on speakerphone whilst going to the loo. As for sitting on the toilet and waiting until the call has finished before leaving, who wants to do that for an hour, let alone two or more. If I take my phone with me, it is only to say, "let me call you back". No way am I going to try to get from my chair to the loo with only one hand free because the other is holding the phone to my ear. If the interviewer is prepared to wait while I get there, they can have the courtesy to wait for me to go and come back.
Could you share the sounds of something so private with a stranger in real time?
Did you read the article? Beside the fact no one should be forced into the undignified state of having to go to the loo with a complete stranger listening, let alone soiling themselves, the lady has arthritis as well. She possibly needs to hold on to things when getting on and off the loo and unless she already has adaptations to her home that can be difficult at best. Most people don't have the adaptations they need down to the cost of them all. She should have been allowed a break if she needed it.
Not sure if my comments are getting thru I don't know what's going on with RUclips ATM.
This one's come through.
Sound thx for letting me know cuz I'm never sure with RUclips.oh quick question did you read my other comment on this page by any chance I was just really interested in your opinion cuz you guys know your stuff.🎉@@DynamicDuoUK
That assessor will probably get a promotion until they get docked for being mentioned in Wokemonster. Not for what they've done, but for getting exposed for it. I used to work for the dwp, now I feel it's like a stink you can't wash out. I did my very best to help everyone so my calls ran way over and I also advised claimants of things they'd be entitled to they hadn't been informed of. They want people like me, they want cold heartless narcissists. Hopefully I shall be with the CAB soon to help advise for the better.
Good man hopefully you will be able to assist and help people soon enough! Have a great weekend sorry for the delay in replying.
@@DynamicDuoUK No problem. Have a great sunny Sunday
3HRS THATS NOT A ASSESSMENT THATS AN INTERROGATION FGS. MY LAST I ASKED THE WOMAN TO STOP THAT I NEEDED THE LOO WITHIN 40 MINS SHE SAID OF COURSE I CAME OUT OF THE LOO SHE SAID I WAS FINISHED 😮 AND TO WAIT DECISION
It certainly sounds like an interrogation 😢 it's so bad.
@@DynamicDuoUK IVE BEEN WAITING FOUR WEEKS TOMORROW FOR A DECISION LETTER THEY SAID I SHOULD BE SENT ( SHOULD?) WHAT DO THEY MEAN SHOULD🙄