Penn State Hazing Case: Tim Piazza’s Final Hours Shown On Video | TODAY
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- There are new developments in connection with the case of the fraternity hazing ritual at Penn State that allegedly caused the tragic death of 19-year-old student Tim Piazza. Prosecutors played chilling video of that night, but not before Piazza’s parents walked out of court. NBC’s Gabe Gutierrez reports for TODAY.
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Penn State Hazing Case: Tim Piazza’s Final Hours Shown On Video | TODAY
You know what else didn't go "unnoticed," are the smirks on those supposed, fraternity brothers faces, as they entered the court room for their shameful deeds!
It would be so gratifying to put a 12-gauge slug through each of their skulls for their extreme negligence.
Agreed 💯💯💯
Honestly, put them to jail, set examples for all fraternities out there.
I don't know how long these deadly hazings have to go on for someone to make them stop.
Angrybirds neyugn exactly
“Deadly hazings” lol. This was a pregame event actually and the pledges could have left at anytime. Instead Tim decides it’s a good night to get black out drunk and test gravity on stairs multiple times. It’s unfortunate but no one’s fault but Tim’s. Guess he was never told he can say no right?
So sad the attitude of these accused young man, they walk with little to no remorse.
They act so entitled, it’s absolutely disgusting.
Definition of "no one can touch me my daddy's got lawyers"
Look what has happened recently to the young boy left paralyzed and blind. These cases should be handed to the state courts to deal with. This should be murder 1 in criminal law. Heartbreaking.
not murder. cleaning up the gene pool. Rush sigma kappa phi bro
It's not murder when you drink yourself to your own death 🤣
Rest in Heavenly Peace, Tim. I'm sorry this happened to you. Hope his parents are hanging in there. Can't even imagine how hard this is for them.
@Zaza you are thinking about the Mizzou student… this is a different case about a student from Penn State. Read the title or look into the actual case a bit more maybe?
This is very good news
this is what happens when you have no culture
I think they're at fault. Not that they made him join or made him go through with the hazing process or even that they made him drink but if they didn't seek medical attention when he himself was helpless yes they should be at fault. How can you sit by and let someone suffer even if they did decide to drink. Under any other circumstance of you had a friend who was too drunk and unable to care for themselves wouldn't you think to seek medical attention. Sociopaths no sympathy or remorse for a life lost.
Yes they are responsible for also making him join, for making him drink and go through the hazing process. They got him to join knowing what they would do to him. The boy should not have joined the fraternity in a desperate attempt to belong and should not have done what his so called fraternity brothers wanted him to do.
@@saynotohookups they didnt make him do anything so theyre not responsible for his death. He chose to drink. He chose to join. Knowing what they would do to him? 🤣 You mean allow him to drink like every other college student 🤣 Those were all his actions by his own choice. He's responsible for his own death.
@@puglover8595 you make it sound like he died of alcohol poisoning. he died from a fractured skull and lacerated spleen. going out of your way to ensure he doesn’t receive medical attention by definition, is involuntary manslaughter. to make matters worse, they supplied him with copious amounts of alcohol knowing he was underage. you want to talk about responsibility but anyone over the age of 21 knows that supplying alcohol to people under the age limit means you could potentially be held responsible for whatever happens to them. they knew that and were more worried about themselves. they literally texted each other saying he “could be a problem” after he fell down the stairs. they slapped him, laughed at him, fell on top of him, and stepped over him as he thrashed on the floor. they had no regard for the person literally dying right in front of them. he was left alone all night and continued to fall and hit his head several times. it’s not even the drinking that’s the problem. it was their lack of regard for human life that made this case stand out. his final moments were spent confused, alone, and in unimaginable pain.
the fact that you lack any sort of empathy for a human being losing their life in such an awful way is truly disturbing. i sincerely hope no one puts their trust in you if you don’t feel any sort of responsibility to help others when they are clearly suffering and in pain.
the charges are completely unjustified? I'd like to hear that attorneys recommendations if this had ever happened to his kid. Defense lawyers never cease to baffle me.
They are doing their job, dude. Do you expect them to say “yeah, my client’s guilty”? That’s malpractice...it would get them disbarred and possibly thrown in jail themselves.
He’s just doing his job. No defense attorney will say “yes my client is guilty, give him 20 years”. Use your head.
If I'm a defence lawyer for an alleged murderer but I know personally from all the evidence that he did do the murder then I wouldn't represent him anymore. I know that is not related to the Penn State Hazing case but I'm just saying.
If you are a public defender, the choice is up to the judge
It's literally their job to say those types of things. They are defense lawyers, just as you said, so obviously they're going to defend their client. It's the whole point of their job. That's what they're being paid to do! So how is this baffling to you?
Every fraternity and sorority should be shut down immediately, enough is enough with these dangerous hazings at the hands of idiots in these fraternities and sororities
All of those kids show to be accused look like right posh snobs
The kid was clearly a fighter.. had they got him an ambulance right away he would have made it.
This is so disgusting. These are GROWN college students. So sad.
American Pie also had weird grown college students.
Exactly GROWN students. Tim is a 19 year old sophomore who can make his own decisions. He chose to drink in excess underage and he faced the consequences of his choices. He could have left or said no at anytime but instead decided to get black out drunk and falls multiple times. He’s a grown kid who made his bed.
When are we going to stop letting peoples stupidity get them off the hook? These are college kids & at least one of them was sober. They should have had enough common sense to call 911, every one of them should be charged! Kudos to the boy that plead guilty today, good for him for standing up & accepting his responsibility in Tim's death.
Sometimes them parties are not allowed so calling police would probably get all them in trouble …even though it shouldn’t matter . Them boys pride be more important than somebody life and ruining the party might get them kicked out or whatever go on with them fools
Tim was such a good kid-i went to school with him
Hey Nick, I know this comment was from 2 years ago. I'd like to ask you some questions if you're up for it. I'm not a member of media or anything like that. This story just resonates with me and I'd love to know more about Tim as an actual person.
Luke had that “yeah I did it and I’ll do it again because my rich parents will get me off with their lawyer” look on his face 😭
Poor kid :( feel really bad for the parents
Privilege at it’s worst. Caller said my friend needs help…smh.
Twelve hours later!
Similar event happened here at Ole Miss about 30 years ago. Almost exact. Can't remember how long they waited to get him help.
If I wanted to form a “brotherhood” through tough experiences I would’ve joined the US Marines and brought glory & honor to myself not join a frat. F’d up what these kids did, I’m going to college for freedom not to be bossed over💀💀💀
This story reminds me of Nolan Burch. Almost exact. Poor kids. May they both RIP! 🤍🕊
I still can’t get this out of my mind...
One of those guys had the nerve to be laughing?? They should throw him under the jail!
They should go to jail
Jonathan Fernandez h
Those guys deserves any type of punishment for what they have done
Because they did not do anything to help him. Whyyyyyyy would they wait sooooo long to ask for help
so, today it was announced that 11 of the frat brothers will go to trial, but the most serious charges were dismissed. what I cannot understand is that one of them was actually recorded on camera trying to tamper with the surveillance camera and remove the tape, the night of the party, and his charges were dismissed! will someone who has legal expertise please respond, because I am trying to understand why his charges would be dismissed? it was all there on camera, he was tampering with evidence!
I know we only see snippets of the frat boys here but they just give off an energy of no remorse for the victim, like the absolute only thing on their mind is how their own personal freedom is in jeopardy. what happened was complete negligence, 12 hours is 12 hours too long people
I'm so shocked that a bunch of frat boys got drunk and acted irresponsibly, and didn't know how to act when someone's life was in danger. It's sad, but how can any of us be shocked, when this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
My sister goes here and her Sorority "sisters" were with these guys that night. So I got a front row view of all that was happening before it went public. Very sad but Penn State is now trying to end greek life all together, which has many parents in support and in an uproar.
I don't know why but do you agree that grek life should end it though?
PSU students are prioritizing extracurricular activities over human life and safety? I'm shocked! 🙄
boo hoo end it and fry all those cowards
Anytime I hear or see someone write something and then add "but", it just negates everything that was said or written, before the "but". It sickens me that the thing you find sad is the possibility of Colleges doing away with these archaic brother and sisterhoods. I find it very disturbing that this is what some parents are in an uproar about. Maybe they should spend time with the victim's families,of Frat house hazing. This might help to put their uproar into perspective.
I wonder what defense lawyers think about at night
hazing should be illegal there you go
it is illegal
While we're at it let's make murder illegal. And make it illegal to starve, that way we will solve world hunger.
TheMotherFudger it is…
frats should be illegal.
It is illegal...there you go
They should make a movie about this story
fatima awad yeah call it White People Problems
@@frijoleroenelruedo027 Other race people are in fraternities too. There was another guy who died in a fraternity cause of alcohol and one of the pledges was a black dude.
I was asked to join a frat in college... I told them I dont do anything to harm myself for a bunch of herbs
even the guy whos like "i tried to get help" for 9 hours? why the f couldn't you walk out the door, walk to the neighbors house and use their phone.. and everyone has a cellphone. send a SOS text. anything. every single person who knew he was hurt, are at fault
the privilege of It all. The smirks on their faces knowing that nothing was going to happen to them. Five years later and none of them received jail time.
They knew they were fine because it wasn’t their faults. Tim was a grown adult who made his own choices to attend this event and drink in excess. He could have said no and left but instead he made poor choices and died because of it.
Their lawyers sound as ridiculous as those students.
No video?
Heartbreaking
My parents have taught me that people like them are not real friends
he went to my high school...poor kid
XxMasterKittehsxX why would somebody make that up though?
Why do immature guys need to drink into oblivion? Some friends they were, just what you would expect from a fraternity.
The lawyers defending these punks should take a look in the mirror.
its sorta their job
Where is the video? I wanna see the video
There was no video of his final hour.
Those drawings were supposed to be disturbing? You need help, Sir.
OMG!!😕
The "footage" this clip claimed to show was a drawn out cartoon
Exactly🙄
It didn’t say there would be a video here, just in court
RIP Tim.......What a horrible and senseless death. These punks should be in prison!!
I went to college, and said "no" to the frats.
I didn't care about being accepted. It's bad enough that two female students who took the same program as I did pretended to be my friend only because they felt sorry for me. I didn't ask for nor wanted their pity.
criminal stupidity which resulted in death=a crime
And we ask why 18 year old shouldn’t buy guns.
MUST go to trial! Fraternity Members, National Fraternity Orgs and Universities must suffer consequences in order for it to all Stop!
So sad
No video was ever shown.
They like look like they don't care.
It's evident that they didn't care.
No accountability. Time it's stopped.
Where are the disburbing images, we didn't even see them
They were drawn for us.
And alcohol is still legal
Assertz Alcohol is not the problem is that nobody payed attention to his need.
Nicky Swift Alcohol is 100% the problem
If only it was a smoke sesh
It's not the fault of alcohol! If you're smart enough to go to this college, you should be smart enough to call 911.
Please, think about what background your leading personal has. Should it be that different from what we saw here? Same important questions: what are the adults in their secret societies are doing?
R.I.P
RIP Tim. These monsters left you for dead. It’s so sad. It’s these people that make the Greek Frat Houses a Mess.
Don't understand what hazing can help you to get into the fraternity brotherhood? I don't see any benefit
Can't believe the ppl Involved only got hot with a couple months of jail time.
it depends on those frat liabilities, what if they were out together as school mates
Did I hear that correctly
Quote.... This is NOT a criminal offence.... unquote
Penn State has a good reputation
Unspeakable.
The case should go to trial and it would be shocking if it didn't . What took place in that frat house was criminal . The defense lawyers know their clients are guilty of manslaughter , not providing life saving efforts to the victim . They are children and should not be treated as " boys will be boys " they seen what was happening and wait until the " the 11th hour " to call for help . They need to serve time in prison, even if its 18 months to 4 years with probation .
this should be stopped these stupid pranks they didn't mean to damage him but it got out of hand
What I'm curious about is why he tried to keep getting up and falling? I've been that drunk before and you just accept that you're screwed up and lay down and drink some water.
From watching many interviews about this case It seemed as if he was looking for help but wasn't able to talk he kept on getting up and wanted to get out to look for help for himself
the judge is a coward
Time to go to jail, boys.
These colleges are just lacking, a reality education...
This kind of stuff goes on every single Friday night at any big university. What happened here was tragic, but my god, don't act like this was a despicable out of the ordinary occurrence. If you plan on joining one of these fraternities, it is understood what is entailed to join one of them. Piazza knew that as well. He put himself in this vulnerable position. Horrible job on the brothers part of recognizing how serious this situation was, but NO ONE in this story is an innocent victim.
winalldayeveryday wait so all new frat members have to go hazing? Isn't that too many of them?
The dead kid is the victim. He was clearly in trouble but his brothers chose to text each other about whether they would get in trouble or not. They googled all sorts of things about his condition but took hours to get home actual medical help. He drank too much but so what? These guys watched a human die after encouraging him to behave recklessly for their own amusement.
A*shole, stop shaming the victim!!! He surely not knew what was coming, otherwise he would not have participated!!!
hazing is different, you are pressured into drinking and doing things to get accepted into a fraternity, whereas just getting flat out wasted you drink on your own choice
You’re wicked if you can’t see the kid was a victim. He probably thought he was in good hands. He probably thought others had done it and it was safe. These kids seem like thang had it in for him. For all we know they could have given him something else to drink.
He could have walked but no
A CHOICE !!!!
Nobody force this kid to drink nobody force him to join the frat! But we know how fears are so is a hard matter to resolve in terms of who's fault
Dodging the point like KumAllOnYa dodging VP responsibilities
Those Fulkerson should all be charged with murder and guilty by association
He knew he shouldn't have been drinking. He was
underage
Spoiled fellas when & if sent to jail see if their joking around with each other !!! Well that’s sad that place should be shut down It just shows how much they care about what they did to that poor guy wow 😮 that’s sad 😢
These guys look like they spoiled snobs who think they will not make it jail. Its not right. Poor child died.
You know that these Rich Kids aren't going to get any prison time or jail time $$! They are so lucky that they don't even know it ! To hide behind big Daddy's pocket!! 🤑🤑💯💯
I wanna a pepperoni plz
If the kids were 21 it's there own fault your and adult you need to know when enough is enough and call I quits
Luke Visser- "American Psycho- The Beginning" coming soon.
So sad, I think the frat Bros all need jail time , maybe that would make these bone heads and all future bone heads think twice. All new college students should see the video, so if they are asked to join a bone head fraternity they will say no thanks. This beautiful young man's life is over.
The beautiful young man who is underage and thinks getting black out drunk doesn’t have consequences. A grown adult who could have said no or left at anytime made the poorer choices and is met with a bad result. Tim is guilty no one else.
they are all guilty
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Very sad situation that someone lost his life, but he made the choice the join a fraternity. He made the choice to drink. I don't think other people should be held accountable for this boys actions. He could have said NO to hazing, he could have said NO to joining a fraternity. Simple as that.
Goldilocks how could he said NO if he's been drug or force to drink and it's unconscious! They could have STOP when they noticed something isn't RIGHT!
Nesthy Adventures No to hazing dear. He chose the fraternity, and could have said No I am not going through the hazing. The drinking was part of the hazing. He could have said No before it started. He made bad choices. After he passed out he wasn't hazed....he was just left to die. Hazing is the initiation process and no one is forced. If you say No, you can walk right out that door and focus on college, instead of partying and fraternities.
Goldilocks just shut up
Goldilocks I agree with you on the fact that he shouldn't have put himself in that situation. But there are a ton of cases where pledges are taken into a back room and basically have alcohol forced down their throats until they are willing to participate. This happened at LSU with Max Gruver
Seth Mcgregor That is so sick. I don't see how someone can have the mindset to think that's ok. This whole Greek life should be heavily monitored. I never had the need or desire to join a sorority.
The charges were harsh I agree
End Greek life. Its just another version of an elite group based on gender, race and entitlement.
Your stereotyping hundreds of thousand of college kids.
but but it's not like that MT is free to make baseless generalizations.
I LOVE 1980s MUSIC FOR REAL
People die because they choose to drink too much. There is some personal responsibility to those who choose to drink to excess. Maybe the parents should have told him not to pledge...its not as if parents don't know that frats drink, ALOT! Maybe parents should teach their children not to drink at all. Maybe parents should be more involved with their kids at college. There's lots of blame to go around. 40,000 people die every year in car accidents. Sht happens. Its weird that the same people who loudly place the fault entirely on the kids in the fraternity are the same ones who are all for legalizing more drugs.
Wait... Did he Drink the alcohol himself... Or was He foced to Drink it?
Either way it's messed up.
He wasn't brutalized by others. He chose to drink himself to his death. No one forced him to drink.
They didn’t seek medical help when he was clearly in need of it tho. For 12h.
@@marlenemeurer376 Someone falling while drunk or falling asleep, isn't automatically a reason to take someone to the ER. Not to mention, they were drunk as well. Once they realized they couldn't get him up after he should have sobered up, they called 911. He chose to drink. I've fallen and have seen my friends fall while drunk countless of times. Never thought the ER was necessary. So it's not surprising they didn't immediately think to call for help over falling while drunk. They picked him up when he'd fall and put him on the couch. No one brutalized him or forced him to do anything. He chose to do it. Simply a case of parents not willing to accept their child's actions. They don't want to accept their son decided to drink himself to his death so they place they blame on others instead.
Yeah, because a bunch of young boys who see people go cold and fall and crash hard but wake up the next day multiple times should be charged for letting a stupid young boy who's parents didn't teach him not to do stupid things should get punished.
That makes sense, okay. Let me go put myself in a bad situation, not use my brain cells, and then when something bad happens to me I will sue someone in the comment section for not stopping me. Its their fault... Jeez.
The only fault lies with what was done or not done AFTER. If they did not call 911 and delayed getting help then they deserve man slaughter. But who gets it? All 28 people in the room? Unfortunately he CHOSE to participate, his parents knew he was joining and they made the decision to pull life support, it’s horrible but to blame everyone else and take no responsibility is not right either. I’m not a part it’s fraternity nor would I want my daughter to join, but to take away the choice to do so over this seems wrong to me.
As Trump said: ''Don't drink.''
Poor Tim. He had his whole life ahead of him. I put some blame on the parents, sorry. They should've made sure he was going into a safe educational establishment.
C'mon bro it's just a social experiment .Dude, like seriously just chill.
We mustn't forget...these people seek our these fraternities to join knowing what they must do to get in. .part of the blame rests on the victims
I just didn't understand why anybody would join a fraternity
I dont pay for friends