The Ultimate Eeveelution Showdown - Which one is FASTEST in Pokemon Yellow?
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2022
- Playthrough Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle (except held items)
3. No glitches or exploits*
4. No Double-Team TM before level 100*
Other rules:
-- My Pokemon have perfect genetics to ensure fair comparison between species.
-- *Pokeballs & Pokedolls are allowed in battle
-- *The badge-boost glitch is not restricted at all
-- *Skipping the Rocket Hideout & Marowak is allowed
-- I play the game at 4x game speed (238 frames per second)
-- My Pokemon has perfect DVs
-- The Trash-Can-Puzzle is automatically solved so times are not affected by RNG
-- The bike is allowed (the bike skip is not)
-- Skipping the bike is not allowed
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game & timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
*Double-Team:
-- Almost every Pokemon can learn Double-Team through TM
-- The TM can be purchased in Celadon
-- Using it would centralize the meta
-- Every Pokemon would use it to overcome tough battles at lower levels
-- It raises evasion
-- It triggers the badge boost
-- Banning the TM allows Pokemon who learn it through level up to use it
-- I believe evasion is part of Pokemon and shouldn't be banned entirely
-- I don't want the videos to all be double-team spam though, that's not fun or entertaining
-- Only two Pokemon learn Double-Team through level up: Pikachu & Scyther
-- Minimize is the other evasion raising move, these Pokemon learn it through level up:
-- Clefairy, Clefable, Grimer, Muk, Chansey, Staryu
Yellow Version changes from Red/Blue:
1. You cannot use Dig/Escape Ropes in Bill's House or the Pokefan Club
2. You cannot talk to the trainers in Blaine's gym to battle them
3. Surge, Sabrina, and Blaine do not have Good AI
4. The Elite Four have better movesets
5. Koga, Sabrina, Blaine, and Giovanni have higher level teams
6. Blaine doesn't use Super Potions are full HP
7. The rival picks his eeveelution based on the outcome of the first two battles.
-- Lose in the lab: Vaporeon
-- Win in the lab and skip route 22: Flareon*
-- Win in both locations: Jolteon
-- *You cannot lose on route 22 because you blackout
Terms:
-- STAB
-- Same-Type-Attack-Bonus - a 1.5x damage multiplier
-- Stat Experience
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of effort values. You can invest in all stats until they max
out at 65535
-- DVs or Determinate Values
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of IVs (individual values), these range from 0-15
Resources:
-- Gen 1 Stat Calculator: pycosites.com/pkmn/stat_gen1.php
-- All Trainer Pokemon have IVs (DVs) of 89888 (hp, atk, def, spd, spc)
-- All Trainer Pokemon have EVs of 0
-- Gen 1 Crit Rates: www.smogon.com/rb/articles/cr...
-- Crit rate is determined by dividing base speed by 512
-- High crit rate moves determine their rate by dividing base speed by 64
-- All crits have a 1/256 to fail, even if the rate is 100%
-- Crits don't multiple damage by 2, it's a formula based on level
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I called Flareon being underrated so hard on that poll's comments, even predicting having to use early rare candies against Giovanni. Only 5 minutes behind Vaporeon was a bit surprising, but weclome. Love that fluff.
I called it too =D
I was sure flareon would do fine, just not as good as Vappy. I was right, even if it was 5 minutes
I nickname all the Eeveelutions after members of Organization 13, Axel is going on my Yellow team just to be different.
Yeah.
Flareon actually doesn't start getting REALLY bad until gen 4.
Gen 2 is a little rough, but gens 1 and 3 are actually pretty good for Flareon
Flareon would be even closer if Vaporeon didn't have such an advantage of when it got more powerful STAB attacks. Flareon was stuck with Ember all the way until Giovanni.
Whereas Vaporeon got Bubblebeam from Misty, and Surf pretty early in the Safari zone. Hell, could you imagine how much slower both of their times would be if they were both stuck with Water Gun & Thundershock until level 53?
Oh man... the last time I was this early, Oak was dragging me out of the tall grass, letsss goooo Battling Eevee Bros!
We all love that comment.
Quality comment
@@mr.bulldops7692 @joshkyei3105 very much appreciated friends
You mean the last time you were this unoriginal.
@@sorasong9708 yes also that! Lol. Nah I just made a basic joke and a reference to the eevelution episode, I know it's nothing ground breaking no worries heh
I had badly underestimated how harsh Yellow is on Electric types.
Not exactly kind to fire types either. Basically the plight of Giovanni being by far the best gym leader.
Not to mention the wall that Gyarados is with Lance. We saw how bad it could be for Arcanine. Flareon is a special case because it has one of the highest attacks in the entire game.
Okay... The Toxic stall Jolteon strat might be one of the saddest but funniest things I've ever seen in a solo-Pokemon challenge. Yellow really does hate Electric types.
Honestly all Gen 1. Look at electric only runs on red and blue and honestly they don't fair that much better. It is in part due to not having anything they can do neutral on Rock/ground types like Brock's Pokemon. Remember in pokemon blue Brock is at a higher level
@@johncalabro8710 even at that charmander was a walk in the park compared to Pikachu
@@Jac735 When i played yellow as a 6 years old i leveled my pikachu to lvl 29 before i managed to beat brock using only pikachu with normal type moves
@@foxmulder8955 would that's alot of leveling up ember alone gelpercme beat Brock because it was able to 🔥 them hahaha it was awesome the only pokemon I used before I got my team together
@@Jac735 now again but without gibberish pls
Concerning the lack of Thunderbolt on movesets, that's how it works for ALL the TM moves that Gym Leaders give out. Which is why none of the Pokemon learn what would later be staples like Bubblebeam or Mega Drain.
Pikachu learns Thunderbolt in Yellow because it's iconic.
Except fire blast apparently.
@@chrisdaignault9845 That's what I thought too, but I checked and apparently not. In gen 1 at least.
What Pokemon learns Fire Blast through level up? Guess I could ask the internet haha, but I always thought those moves needed to be taught through a TM for the sake of game design or whatever.
@@TrueNomadSkies Moltres would have considering the other birds get Blizzard and Thunder, but instead it gets...Leer. This is believed to be a coding error (Fire Blast and Leer being next to each other in the move index), but it's probably this as well.
It's a silly complaint though. If anything it's a benefit that most don't learn it because it comes in a TM so damn early. Sure plenty of fire types learn Flamethrower by level up, but as we see here Flareon doesn't learn it until lvl 53.
Imagine how much slower Vaporeon's & Jolteon's times would be if they were stuck with Water Gun & Thundershock until Giovanni like Flareon was with Ember.
This may be a glitch with the overlay, or the emulation, or it could be legit Gen 1 Jank, but it looks like Mimic reset when you taught Jolteon Agility during the Giovanni fight. 11:11:26 shows the third move being Double Team with 3 PP, then immediately after learning Agility at 11:12:28 Jolteon’s moveset shows Mimic in the 3rd slot with 3 PP.
Assuming that was real, then you could’ve mimicked Nidoking’s Earthquake instead of using Body Slam
Edit: Just got back from Bulbapedia, and yup! It’s a known glitch and would’ve been a sweet way to beat Giovanni. “Due to an oversight in this generation only, if a Pokémon that used Mimic levels up in battle and learns a new move, Mimic's effect is reverted. The move copied by Mimic is lost, and Mimic will be usable again.”
Okay, that's a neat fact I had no idea about. Sweet Gen 1 jank.
Fire.
Water.
Electric.
Only the Scottvatar was able to master all the elements. And when the world needed him the most...
...he delivered.
Comment of the day
But then the Ground nation attacked...
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 and hit him with a gen 2 earthquake...
As The Eevee Boy, I have been summoned.
Can't wait for the 6 hour Gen 2 showdown ft. Espeon & Umbreon, oh god.
15 hour 5-way versus
I would love to see that!
The 24 hour gigashowdown in pokemon X/Y , 9 way race
Cringe
@@AdminAbuse people who say cringe are ironically the only thing truly worthy of universal secondhand embarrassment
Scott you are insane with how frequently you upload such high quality and thorough content. Keep up the great work but don't burn yourself out
He's talk about it before in his community posts. He planned this out at the beginning of the year. We still appreciate the content
The only way I'm using Arcanine in Unova is if I swap it out for Flareon in Kanto, I'm still getting it anyway.
@@sorasong9708 but who asked?
I'm so ready for this. your videos are the best. and your scripting and voicing comes off as so genuine, you can tell you're excited to be making your content.
I'm very excited to be making these!
You're so SpongeBob for this.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon shootout TO THE LEGENDARY flareon move of SMOG at level 42
And Leer at level 47
Truly 2 wonderful attacks
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 shootout?
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 I've read somewhere that leer is next to fire blast in the game's code. And due to oversights, moltres AND flareon learn leer instead of fire blast
I am SO HAPPY with this Flareon result. It's my favourite eeveelution but I thought it was unusable in gen 1, you proved me wrong and warmed my heart, as expected from this cute fire-fox/cat/dog !
In gen 1 flareon is at his best not only it has high attack but high special with decent hp not only that but the things around it are not as powerfull as pokemon in later gens if it had the it's movepool of gen 8 it would be very good in NU (gen 1 OU and UU are very harsh to fire type's it would probally have a good niche in NU)
@@randomguy6415 I think the only real downside is that it learns Flamethrower at such a late level.
It definitely was at it's worst in Gen 2 and 3.
@@obambagaming1467 Honestly I think it got even worse in Gen 4 since now other Fire types just... Got better. It was close to Arcanine in Gen 2, minus E-Speed. In Gen 3, Arcanine wildly surpassed it with Intimidate despite a worse movepool, and in Gen 4... Flare Blitz. As other physical Fire types got better, Flareon got worse. Gen 5 gave Flareon Guts and Gen 6 gave it Flare Blitz, but by then it was way too late to stop the free fall into irrelevance.
Not that Jolteon fared any better by Gen 6 or 7, to be fair.
@@obambagaming1467 Flareon is actually pretty good in gen 3 relatively. The Eeveelutions all get moves like Shadow Ball & Dig at that point, but they are still physical in gen 3 so only Flareon is good at using them.
In fact, Flareon is one of the absolute best Pokemon against Sabrina in FR/LG because of its high spd and you can destroy her with Shadow Ball.
130 minutes of nerding around. Just what I needed on this tough friday night !
This is such a small detail but I really like at 6:32 where flareon was a smaller size to both accommodate the poll and illustrate the community not believing in it with it then growing to equal the others synced with you saying anything could happen.
It’s a cool level of polish and attention to visuals to see on a video that is over 2 hours long.
Keep up the great work!
The editing is so low key but great. The overworld editing is a nice touch too
Absolutely! I loved that touch too~
Poor Flareon tho :c
I guess that strange quirk with pikachu learning thunderbolt only in yellow is due the anime in which pikachu frequently used that move. To me it seems like gamefreak wanted TM's to be special since so many moves are only learned by TM in gen1. Since u get Thunderbolt after defeating surge, gamefreak probably didn't want many pokemon to learn that move just by level up but they decided to change that in yellow to have fans have their own pikachu be able to use his "signature anime move"
I think it's more that they wanted to give the player a reason to use Pikachu which isn't that great to begin with. If you're running a balanced team, Pikachu won't have Thunderbolt for Misty unless you over-grind but if you took the Bulbasaur, it should be an Ivysaur which makes Misty free due to her 'good' AI. It's almost as if they wanted the player to trade Pikachu out once a better Electric type becomes available so you can teach it Thunderbolt. You can get Zapdos before Sabrina as long as you've beaten Koga so you can cheese that fight pretty easily and Jolteon becomes available once you reach Celadon. Electric types in Gen 1 pretty much showcase the importance of teambuilding since on their own, they can't beat everything due to movepool limitations. They're always going to be stopped by something.
Pikachu getting Tbolt in Yellow is life support for your chu.
Cuz goddamn is Pikachu awful.
Chikorita underrated and overhated, Pikachu is my worst starter
@@ShiningJudgment666 isn’t yellow pikachu twice as strong as a normal gen1 pikachu? For some reason I had thought Pikachu had twice the special stat and increased speed. There was a whole thing about if it was transferred to gsc- or if a pokemon used thief against red, it would be carrying the light ball… or am i totally wrong?
yes, a pokemon yellow pikachu transfered to a gen2 will carry a light ball, but it has no effect on yellow. Yellow pikachu just learns better moves than red/blue because they expect you to keep pikachu in your party.
Thoughts after the first three gyms: Vaporeon and Flareon are both just waiting to reach Erika to either turn her gym into a permanent winter wonderland or burn it down. Jolteon has to strategize.
I was losing my mind when you were fighting Giovanni in his gym with Jolteon. You were fully set up with double teams, and had mimic available to snag earthquake, but you just kept spamming body slam 😂
This was a fun one, thanks Scott!
I felt the same way but this is Scott, Jrose wouldn’t miss that opportunity
He had Mimic available because of a glitch; odds are he legit did not notice anything.
To answer your question about why Pikachu is the only Pokemon to learn Thunderbolt by level up in generation 1, it's because the TM moves given out by gym leaders aren't learnable through level up for any pokemon. This was because it is supposed to be the gym Leaders signature move, made up by them. They made the change for Pikachu to learn Thunderbolt so they can compensate for its otherwise bad moveset in yellow. In red and blue, it does not learn thunderbolt via level up at all.
This really surprised me. I can’t believe how good flareon did. Must be the happiness of the attack stat and no physical special split. Super glad for your videos. Get to relive my childhood and live vicariously through you in playing games!
Gen 1 Flareon is great.
110 special is, I THINK, second only to Moltres among Fire types, (and remember, Charizard basically claps the other 3, and still has it's bad Special stat) and that 130 Attack gives it the same Body Slam as Machamp.
Gen 2 and 3 aren't terrible either, Normal and Ghost on physical with Fire on Special isn't a bad way to go.
Gen 4 and onward is when Flareon's suffering begins
Scott’s videos have been awesome to follow as of late. I’m enjoying each one and recommending them to my friends. Keep it up, bud!!
Haven’t watched yet, just wanted to drop in and say I’m very excited to watch this tonight and a huge thanks to Scott for the incredible amount of work you do to provide so much high quality content so frequently.
Predictions:
Unoptimized Vaporeon - 48:46?
Thunderbolt isn't alone. A quirk of gen 1 is that no Pokemon learns the gym TM moves by level up, so you will only ever have that move on one Pokemon.
Pikachu is an outlier due to yellow being based on the anime, but this is otherwise the case.
Two hours long!!!! Can't wait to watch this later! Keep up the great work Scott!
There is a bug with Mimic when you learn a new move in battle. Mimics effect will be reverted. At 1:12:42 Jolteon vs. Rhydon, Mimic is no longer doubleteam because you tought Jolteon Agility. You could have steal Earthquake and knock Rhydon out. If you manage to level up after Persian you can hit the Nidos and Rhydon with super effectiv Earthquake stolen from Nidoqueen.
I love your channel man. I started watching when you would get maybe 1k views. always provide great content and it just keeps getting better! i love watching the evolution of your channel and where you have gotten it to today. Keep up the good content and people will continue to find you.
I'm happy to see Flareon as one of the best fire types. Nine Tails really amazed me, but Flareon was always the fire type I used so I always figured it was one of the strongest fire types. I'm glad to see it do almost as well as Nine Tails.
This has to be my favorite video alongside the starters one. Great job man, thanks!
Scott! I love your videos man. Every time you upload I instantly have a better day! Thank you for giving us this amazing, inspired and quality content to watch.
My pleasure!!
Gotta appreciate the level of effort you put into these vids. Especially with the overlay. Keep up the great work.
Been waiting for this since I started watching you, Thanks so much for the content I love it all.
And thus, a wild Beefer of a video appears!
I can't say I'm surprised at all to see Vaporeon win as handily as it did. I'm also not surprised our favorite punk rock doggo struggled as much as it did due to its abysmal moveset. Flareon did really well for second place all things considered.
Anyways, excellent job as always, Scott! Glad you were finally able to get this Versus video released.
Kudos for being able to get Jolteon to around one hour. I honestly thought that your first play through's time would be it's ceiling. You are the GOAT.
Also, you are very good at explaining things multiple times in different ways, like damage rounding. Not sure if that's a conscious effort, but you definitely pull it off well.
I’m so ready for a 2 hour Scott’s thoughts. It’s the only good thing on this miserable day. Thanks man.
That was a great video. I'm glad Jolteon was able to brush itself off and come back with a respectable time. I felt bad for it in the first run. It still came in third, but it was a respectable time.
Scott, thank you for this video and all your hard work! I LOVE your videos!!!
Another fantastic episode. Great way to finish my night and start my morning.
Super hyped for Umbreon and Espeon in Crystal. Thanks for another video.
your abilities in and out of game and in editing have grown so much dude I cant stop watching
Ended up coming to ER. Nice to help pass the time with you and jrose uploading a ton of videos while I’m waiting
What I love about late night uploads: I can watch this video in bed, fall asleep in the middle of it, and watch it all again the next morning at breakfast ❤️
Another great video Scott. Looking forward to the next one.
You know, your fiance really should draw a ground/water variation of the Venomoth, from this play through. I don't think, that we have encountered this variation yet. Awesome video its always a treat getting to see a fire Pokemon in one of your videos. Great content as always 🤘
Great video! I’ve been watching you grow as a creator and it’s nice to see how much more confident you sound in every new video.
Thanks so much!
1:25:09 What a glorious moveset, I think replacing thunderbolt with doubleslap would have resulted in complete dominance for the rest of the run.
Also, love the evil buuuurn... on 1:50:09 👹 shoutout to the editor, I guess it was an accident but made me chuckle when I noticed and played it back a few times. Or maybe you just said it like that and I'm just imagining things. :D
Anyways, fantastic video once again Scott, having a blast watching your's and jrose's daily uploads although I have to say that nowadays I enjoy your content more. You really seem to be able to squeeze out the best potential out of your mons in Yellow. Great job bro! 💪
Hey Scott, hope all is well. I first want to say thank you for making this video, the video I suggested in one of my first comments. Honestly when I typed it I didn't really think it would happen, but the next day you commented that you would definitely be doing it and I was hyped for the first RUclipsr to do one of my suggestions. I asked about it all the time until I bugged you and I'm sorry. You are the best dude, the way you always communicate with us fans and make us feel like part of the community is the reason I got patreon. The commitment you've shown, and the quality of your videos makes you my vote for best RUclipsr out there. Another great video man, keep it up!!!!!
the amount of videos you're putting out is insane, i can't keep up
also, my bet's on vaporeon
Already know this video is going to be god tier. Let's gooooo!
That dynamic overlay is fantastic. It gives me a lot of extra information that makes my brain happy, so for that alone, you got a new sub. Everything else was good, too, but this is the only time I've seen an overlay like this from a Poketuber.
It was a lot of fun to make it! I can’t wait to continue to improve it over the coming years. :) glad you liked it.
Hey man way to go with all your content you deserve everything that you’ve earned
Before watching the full playthrough, I have faith in the fire-fox.
Love the fire-fox-cat-dog thing. I always had faith in it.
Your best Video so far, thank you for the entertainment!
The sodie has officially popped.
That was such an intense finish, great narration, Scott!
I’m honestly surprised with these results, but I really shouldn’t be. It makes sense that Vaporeon would dominate like it does, and the game has a knack for being hard for Fire and Electric types. Either way, great content. Thanks Scott! A couple weeks early, but Merry Christmas!
Eevee and its evolutions eventually gained compatibility with the Dig TM in Generation III, which is probably why a lot of people think they can learn it.
I love that Gift Shop Manager Surge is becoming a meme.
Vaporeon also has the best coverage of any Eeveelution, as like most water types it can learn ice moves but most other Eeveelutions can't learn much if any coverage especially on the special side. Sure Jolteon gets Pin Missle but other than against Alakazam and maybe Exeggutor it doesn't help with much and Flareon with Smog is a joke.
Your overlays turn these videos from a pokefan playthrough to a pokemaster testing session. The info is awesome, good job in general with your channel
Thanks so much!
2 hour video of the eveelutions LETS GO! Scott you are the man!
Great video! Flareon was my favorite as a kid so it was nice to see it finish comfortably in 2nd place, and not lose like people predicted.
Im excited for the Espeon/Umbreon run as well. Espeon clearly gonna win, but i hope Umbreon does okay. I always thought it was the cooler of the 2.
I am not quiet sure if you are aware of how nice it is to relax and enjoy your videos. Thank you very much.
That Lance fight with gyarados was tighttttt. I can't believe he crit on the first hyper beam! And then tanked the second with only 30 some hp!
Hi Scott.
Part way through watching this. When you compare splits on a race it might be helpful to confirm levels too.
It's not a big deal but I consider it interesting if Jolteon is level 26 beating surge while Vaporean and Flareon are 25.
What's a Vaporean?
1:02:48 You mention that your Vaporeon's Special was badge boosted, but the boost got reset when you leveled up after Cloyster.
Love your vids, Scott. Keep up the great work!
My heart is so happy you made this 💓
That makes me happy! Hope you enjoyed it.
@Scott's Thoughts you did amazing ! Love the breakdown of the stats and how to make your pokemon truly stronger.
Oh wow, what a project! Thanks so much!
Happy days. Gonna rewatch this one over and over ^~^
Wow I've been listening to you talk all day at this point no wonder you've got a sore voice! Thanks Scott ❤
Okay, how insane do you have to be to do this video lmao
All in all, it's like what ? 10-15 days of work fulltime i would guess. And you're not splitting the video into parts to get more RUclips money
Congrats Scott, this is some impressive dedication
I’ll have to watch later but this had to be painful to put together. Many props!
19:29 They're ambiguous amalgamations of multiple mammal species. Eevee especially, with its evolution having more specific (but still slightly ambiguous) animal inspirations. Eevee specifically was actually designed to look like something you'd recognize without actually being something you'd recognize.
So happy to see this performance from Vaporeon, my favourite Pokemon.
Very enjoyable video ! Cool editing too !
Thanks so much!
I was so hyped about this one I decided to wait to comment by the end of the video in case you comment back.
I think all eeveelutions overperformed my expectations in the first 3 gyms. I though jolteon would take a lot longer on brock because sand attack strats would be slow and inconsistent. Then I thought Vaporeon would have a harder time against Misty even when using Bide. Flareon was close to what I expected but I thought he would 3 hit the Starmie, which depending on bubblebeam damage could be dangerous although Flareon's special made it tank Water Gun like a boss.
Split 2 shows me I heavily overestimated the selfdestructing hiker (although Jolteon had an extremely lucky run). I think you got way too confident with Vaporeon. It is amazing, but you're being a bit too careless (although it's correct of you to try to push it as much as possible in the test run). The only decision I heavily disagree is the Sand Attack for Haze because you might need that. You used Sand Attack really well against closter (althought you will replace it with Acid Armor soon). YOu could use the Flareon strat against sabrina with both Jolteon and Vaporeon
Split 3 is interesting. I sort of expected Blaine to be annoying to Flareon because of the low defenses, but it was a lot worse then I expected. I also expected Giovanni to be hard, but it was way worse then expected as Flareon needed to use rare candies which it might need to match Lorelei and Gyarados. Jolteon's low attack is also doing a lot worse then expected.
I sort of expected most of them to do well in the league. I'm happy because I basically predicted their times fairly well (Got vaporeon's 2nd time and was seconds off the first, both flareon times and both jolteon times although I said jolteon would get up to 1:30 in case of bad luck, but he was really lucky, it was only unoptimized).
Heck yeah, been waiting for the right situation for Swift setup against Sabrina to be useful⭐⭐⭐
Before I watch I’m guessing Vaporeon,
Jolteon, flareon in that order from fastest to slowest. Love these videos keep up the great work
Awsome video! I'm half way now and very excited to see the rest of it. Something I noticed and hope get's adjusted in the final run is the minimum battle thing. Whilst skipping trainers saves time. Getting stuck and resetting takes even more time. Take advantage of gyms and trainer with pokemon you can easily sweep. It makes the entire run go faster because you will oneshot more pokemon and have to retry way less. Also, badge boost is lost when leveling up mid battle right?
But I could get a nice surprise and see that result coming soon. Thanks for the content~!
Another 2 hour banger video!!!
I love this video! One of my other videos in the future to see is it better to use umbreon or espeon in Pokémon gold or crystal.
Absolute top notch video. A shame we didn’t see bide strats against Sandslash for Jolteon but I guess that’s better for your sanity. But really, great job.
Was the result ever really in doubt. great video
Man, it really just hit me... you update stuff on the layout, MOVE TO MOVE! That's insane, but really cool seeing base power's change based on the opponent due to type match up's. You deserve so much more Subs and Appreciation for your content. We need to get you to 50,000 Subs by Christmas, and 100,000 Subs, by March!
So, I was inspired by your poll to try my own Flareon run. I actually screwed up my starting move set and forgot to include Ember, but was still able to beat Brock at only level 11 off the back of it monstrous attack stat.
I didn't otherwise play for speed though (that kind of optimization just is not my style), and so by the end I just brute forced my way through the league with a final level of 70. Neat to see it performs just as bout as well even without those extra levels.
I've fallen very behind in the flood of amazing Christmas RBY and GSC content, but will get around to this video eventually! Expressing my excitement for this video to help the algorithm and hoping for a good Flareon showing!
Yeah, can always catch up later on!
Yaaaaaaaas.
This is what I wanted to start my weekend.
And I guessed right on both rounds, huzzah!
had to wait quite some time for that 69 today.
nice.
enjoyed the video a lot, as usual!
2 hours of pure gold content
I been looking forward to this one
Let’s gooooo, a 2 hour long special video!
This was perfect, I'm surprised Flareon did better than Jolteon, rip Jolteon roughly and so happy about Vaporeon. Best Eeveelution to me! I love it! Good job Scott!
Wow, I did NOT expect Flareon to take 2nd place!
Also, as per usual, bug love! c:
Levelling up also makes each battle take less time, as you do more damage to the non-boss battles and getting closer to the one-shots, especially if you learm hard-hitting moves faster.
Great video!!! Loved it
I just did a solo run of vaporeon(My favorite) preparing for this video. Excited!
Vaporeon is my favourite of the three, so I'm really happy it's done the best. I remember is Stadium it having these ice crystals forming around it and it looked so pretty.
I’ve been waiting oh so looooooong!!!!!
I'm typing this as Jolteon reaches Misty because I have a habit of starting Scott's videos as I hop in the shower or do dishes or things that preclude commenting, but I swear these are my pre-video thoughts.
I see no way Vaporeon isn't in first. It could probably beat Brock at level 5, Misty will be a bit of a hassle, but notably it has a great matchup against Giovanni and the rival's Sandslash, which will potentially really cause trouble for the other two. Even the champ's electric type moves won't be a huge threat because of its stellar Special and HP, plus the chance to set up with Acid Armor and get badge boosts. Not to mention, easy STAB upgrades from Bubblebeam and Surf. Gyarados is actually my biggest worry. Low level, fast time, easy first place.
I'm going to make a bold prediction and call Flareon as second, at least initially. Both it and Jolteon will struggle with the rival's Sandslash and Giovanni's geound types, but I expect that Flareon's better attack and neutral-damage STAB will let it through those gates at a lower level. It gets past Brock faster than Jolteon, loses ground at Misty, and slowly gains it back over the run (especially at Erika).
Jolteon will have a few easy matchups (Misty, mostly, but Surge will be not a huge issue imo), but the lower attack and lack of checks for the endgame Ground types will end up putting it last. Narrowly last, perhaps, but last. It also doesn't have a great counter for Exeggutor unless you keep Pin Missle, which has bad accuracy and low power and comes off of its weak Attack.
I really like all the Eeveelutions, but my favourite is definitely Vaporeon!
I kinda thought Flareon’s high attack might actually be a decent benefit over Jolteon for a second place finish. This was fun. Good work
Not really too relevant to the video, but I listened to this video while getting my first tattoo the other day. Thanks for the great content! Always enjoy your content!
Jrose: it's the month of Jrose!
Scott: fool, this isn't even my final form!
Skull bash really was pitiful in gen 1 wasn't it? I thought it was at least 120
The Jolteon Toxic stall strat is interesting to say the least. On par with Black Sludge Bispharp Agency's tech. Truly a blessed moment