doom guy is actually a marine from earth that ended up in argent d'nur through some portal, they even show his original helm before he got the predator suit in a flashback
@Joseph Douek Fair enough. I was initially confused but after paying more attention to the wording and reading through the codex multiple times I figured they were 2 different people.
@Joseph Douek Who is the doomslayer then? I thought the whole doomslayer thing was basically what Valen was described, so it's valen who wrecked havoc into hell for eons, or is it the doomslayer?
@Joseph Douek So Valen is not the doomslayer, the player is, but so far i always thought that the motivation that the doomslayer had was because of his son, but it seems that he just wanted to wreak demon's asses for destroying his world.
It sucks for the knight sentinels after they die, they don’t have a good ending, having to serve hell .... but then again they get to be killed by the slayer
@Zeke Spears did they say it really? I feel like only one of them betrayed and the Marauders were the ones who were simply fell to the corruption (given the process, I wouldn't blame them)
This game has so much rich back story. I'm glad they decided to give doom eternal more of a fleshed out story. It's a positive change that doesn't take away from ripping and tearing.
@@robbobbrah8953 aww that's cute I can see the amount of effort you went through for me trying to make sure your comment was grammatically correct so sweet :) or did your mom write that for you? I guess you can't prove it.
@@Pathetic_Dart It's not. It's based on the Christian version of Hell, not "Hel" from Norse mythology. Sometimes known as Helheim. Both places are planes of the Underworld, but Hel is nothing like the Hell described in The Bible or in the videogame Doom. In Doom, both in the codex description spelling (Hell) and in the aesthetics of the place (planes of fire, lava, suffering, torment and even demons) they are very obviously representations of Christianities Hell, not Hel.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI Yea I know what the difference of Hel and Hell is lol. I'm just saying, if this game spells magic like "magick", it would probably spell Hell a different way. I guess you're right tho cause I saw how they spelt Hell in the game again.
@@Pathetic_Dart Excuse my overwrought explanation then, but I didn't think someone that knew the difference between Hel and Hell would think that the Hell in Doom would be spelled "Hel". Lol.
@Joseph Douek Apparently Nintendo had a discussion with either ID or panic button to hold off for Nintendo's new hardware, it has switch pro written all over it
This is exactly the explanation I was looking for! Thank you!!!! Now hoping the next Doom (after Eternal) goes back to the beginning and you get to play as a Sentinel, or get to use one of their giant mechanical Sentinels to destroy Titans and see the origins of the Doom Slayer 🔥👍🏼
I'm interested in the lore after seeing what the trailers have shown. I can't wait to play Eternal after trying to get caught up with the back story prior to the game coming out.
I was imagining that Doom Guy (the Doom Guy from the old 2d games) is the Doom Slayer; At the very end of the final 2D Doom games the Doom Guy decided to stay in Hell and battle Demons. I was imagining that while he was fighting, the Night Sentinels might have discovered him (at this time he may have just been a regular dude whos really good at fighting demons) and recruited him to their ranks as their own. I was thinking that The Betrayer was no ordinary Night Sentinel (he's probably super powerful or with high rank or probably a king himself). After the betrayal he might have realized that he was wrong and was reluctant to discover that the Doom Guy (or the Doom Slayer by now) is still alive. To take revenge on the demons he might have bestowed all of his powers to the Doom Guy he might have even been the original owner of the Praetor Suit (or creator, or he might have enhanced it) And sooo this is why the Doom Guy or the Doom Slayer is extra angry.
It's the same guy from DOOM 64 Also,the betrayer has nothing to do with giving power to Doom Slayer preator suit. Someone gave him some kind of power that made him into a god
Doom 2016 had quite an elaborate story that went in to great detail far beyond any doom that came before it including backgrounds on all the demons and enemies in the game Perhaps not as elaborate as the new doom eternal but still miles ahead from any doom before it
Yep. He is Doom guy. He was found by Sentinels in their valleys, wearing his classic armor and being a rage inducing and demon hating bastard he is. Muttering "DEMONS. MUST KILL. MUST KILL THEM ALLLLL"
@@bensmith5288 Well I mean yeah the lore is secondary and its just fluff, but eh. Also almost all games plots are made up in like 6 months before release lol. Even more narrative based games.
I'm pretty sure the Night Sentinals are like past DOOM slayers? Like Avatar or Jedis, their past lives are all in the current one. I hope that doesn't sound too woo woo. I just played the whole thing all the way through, go check it out on my channel and skip to the end for the explanation.
Since they’ve gone the whole heaven route with the storyline - wouldn’t it be cool if he took off his mask and it was a war tattered Jesus. Then the demons and everything else would know they never had a chance
I still think that the doom slayer is the doom guy from N64. Who stayed in hell to fight the demons and so forth was known as the doom slayer. He probably fought along with the sentinels. Then the only way to beat him was to put him in the coffin he was found on 2016 doom
They were smart in DOOM. Putting in the lore but making the player work for it. By running a barebone story while hiding lore it suddenly becomes exciting to find more pieces and put that part together. You get fans comparing notes and debating what this or that means. That's how you keep interest in something well past the game itself.
So in the end of the original Doom series, in the last game of that series, I believe Doom 64 there is a little cut scene where it says the Doom Slayer choose to stay in Hell to continuously fight the forces of Hell, (Spoiler Alert) in Doom Eternal when you visit Argent D'Nur you have a flash back of a delirious Doom Slayer be taken by the Sentinels, my point being is that its but directly confirmed by the creators that it is a continuous timeline, the same Doom Slayer, plus they have gone on record agreeing with the theory of a continuous timeline of all the games (as well as a shared timeline with wolfenstein).
I think it would be cool if the Doom Slayer wasn't actually a Night Sentinel, but instead is something of an honorary member who just happened to join them for whatever reason. I feel like that would add more mystery to the Slayers's origin.
My theory is Doom guy was from a future when 1 -3 take place then he was sent back in time and to the dimension of the Knight sentinels was trained even further by them and ultimately became the Doomslayer after they fell he blamed himself so he self banished himself to the hell Realm to punish himself and all of hell got trapped and then wakes in a similar future or his own hell for all we know he’s the marine you take the plasma rifle off of in doom eternal the marauder has even said you were never one of us a pretender just my crazy theory
The night sentinels harbored the souls of all the badass doom marine protags to join the og doom slayer to help him gain new level of demon slaying power
Doom guy is just some marine that got into hell in the original doom games. Then at the end took the fight to hell. Millennia later sentinels found him and befriended him and they fought together. Demons could not beat the now Doomsalayer and instead threw him into a tomb. After the fighting was over, the humans in the new earth dimension found hell and doomslayer's coffin. Shit hit the fan and Doom 2016 happened.
1. The order of deag(hell priests) and Valen betrayed and scattered them across hell when they were going to destroy the argent factories in hell and fell in battle with the slayer left on his own. 2. Civil war between the Argenta people with those who chose hell and the maykrs against the loyal sentinels who still held true to the wraiths and there oaths split them up
Well, Doom Eternal is now out, and as you can see, ID software banking on shooting instead of story was the right one, because in Doom Eternal they focused on story a bit too much.
@@captainclaw-i5k yes but he got it taken still and the reason he didnt use it is because he didnt have the reason to use it due to Hayden and doom guy working together at the time until hayden pulled the plug
To simplify: Doom Slayer is the Last Night Sentinel who must kill/destroy/RIP and TEAR both demon and angel until it is done... so basically DoomGuy Vs Hell & Heaven 😈 😇😡😡😡😡😡
AH yes, there is probably gonna be another game. Because in eternal SPOILERS= he kills the makyrs, i.e destroys heaven. So all there is left is the Dark lord and hell. Which will be the final game. Thats what most likely is going to happen.
Btw, where do you get some of the info on the story? for example, I don't recall hearing the term "wraiths" even once in either of the two games' cutscene movies.
People: doom slayers got no friends lol Doom slayer: say hello to my homies Night sentinels: Hello Intern: nobody invited me? Doom slayer: now you are Alll of em: HELL YEAH demons: OH FU-
The Night Sentinels are just a bunch of homies who wanna take back the Holy land in a different dimension
Deus vult!!!
Deus vult!!!
Dooms vult!
Timothys-Mark! The_Viktor_Main *D e u s V u l t ! ! !*
Deus Vult!
I originally bought Doom to rip and tear, but I couldn’t help but become totally enthralled with the lore.
Same.
Same
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Rip and tear through the lore.
doom guy is actually a marine from earth that ended up in argent d'nur through some portal, they even show his original helm before he got the predator suit in a flashback
Boyo got caught up ripping and tearing
*Praetor suit
max mustermann He ended up in Argent D’nur after he stayed in hell in the original games.
He's actually the PC from Doom 64.
@@gunnmansailo1341 thank you
Finally people can stop saying that the Slayer is the Betrayer.
Tbh I thought he was when I first played 2016 😔
@John Smith Who's a hipster? if you actually read the lore it was pretty obvious they differentiated between the 2 characters
@Joseph Douek Fair enough. I was initially confused but after paying more attention to the wording and reading through the codex multiple times I figured they were 2 different people.
@Joseph Douek Who is the doomslayer then? I thought the whole doomslayer thing was basically what Valen was described, so it's valen who wrecked havoc into hell for eons, or is it the doomslayer?
@Joseph Douek So Valen is not the doomslayer, the player is, but so far i always thought that the motivation that the doomslayer had was because of his son, but it seems that he just wanted to wreak demon's asses for destroying his world.
It sucks for the knight sentinels after they die, they don’t have a good ending, having to serve hell .... but then again they get to be killed by the slayer
Not all of them became Marauders, those are just the corrupted ones. There's ghost(?) ones of the loyal Sentinels in Doom 2016 which you don't kill.
@Zeke Spears did they say it really? I feel like only one of them betrayed and the Marauders were the ones who were simply fell to the corruption (given the process, I wouldn't blame them)
This game has so much rich back story. I'm glad they decided to give doom eternal more of a fleshed out story. It's a positive change that doesn't take away from ripping and tearing.
It's a really lame story.
Why are you here watching videos about it then lmao?
@@keiranbygate3752 lmao because I was curious who the night sentinels was lmao.
It's lame as fuck.
@@robbobbrah8953 you mean who they were ?
@@robbobbrah8953 aww that's cute I can see the amount of effort you went through for me trying to make sure your comment was grammatically correct so sweet :) or did your mom write that for you? I guess you can't prove it.
I LOVE the Doom game, but honestly I LOVE the audio stories in the Hel levels!!!
Hell*
@@AdoreYouInAshXI I'm pretty sure in DOOM their Hell is spelled like Hel.
@@Pathetic_Dart It's not. It's based on the Christian version of Hell, not "Hel" from Norse mythology. Sometimes known as Helheim. Both places are planes of the Underworld, but Hel is nothing like the Hell described in The Bible or in the videogame Doom.
In Doom, both in the codex description spelling (Hell) and in the aesthetics of the place (planes of fire, lava, suffering, torment and even demons) they are very obviously representations of Christianities Hell, not Hel.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI Yea I know what the difference of Hel and Hell is lol. I'm just saying, if this game spells magic like "magick", it would probably spell Hell a different way. I guess you're right tho cause I saw how they spelt Hell in the game again.
@@Pathetic_Dart Excuse my overwrought explanation then, but I didn't think someone that knew the difference between Hel and Hell would think that the Hell in Doom would be spelled "Hel". Lol.
This guy sounds like Vega... without the effects.
It's weird how the Night sentinel race look so much like humans.
Long humans
I would like to believe if they were Martians.
@@pauldee7504 they were on Mars a long time ago. That's how Slayer got to Sentinel Prime.
@@ArmiaKhairy LOOONG LOOOOONG MAAAAAN
Finally, i been looking for this kind of information for a while.
The game's plot actually left me with more questions than answers...
Yeah no kidding, no what's or who's but lots and lots of why's.
Makes the game much more interesting having a rich back story. I will be getting this game.
I love these videos! I hope you guys will cover more lore and back stories of other big game releases.
NOBODY:
ME: Have 2 exams tomorrow so I guess will just try to understand about Night Sentinels...
I feel that
Hopefully you did ok on your exams.
Doom 64 will have to do since doom eternal is being postponed again for the switch, thanks Nintendo
@@nin10dude83 Well according to the eshop doom 64 is, not eternal, heres the link: www.nintendo.com/games/detail/doom-64-switch/
@@nin10dude83 Its being delayed because of a possible switch pro
@@nin10dude83 Sorry my mistake its being delayed for the 2nd time
Unless you’re 12 or under be a man and buy a real console.
@Joseph Douek Apparently Nintendo had a discussion with either ID or panic button to hold off for Nintendo's new hardware, it has switch pro written all over it
This is exactly the explanation I was looking for! Thank you!!!! Now hoping the next Doom (after Eternal) goes back to the beginning and you get to play as a Sentinel, or get to use one of their giant mechanical Sentinels to destroy Titans and see the origins of the Doom Slayer 🔥👍🏼
Would love to get a prequel of sorts, they are super interesting, totally agree!
I'm interested in the lore after seeing what the trailers have shown. I can't wait to play Eternal after trying to get caught up with the back story prior to the game coming out.
I’m not saying it a bad story, but I’m glad they didn’t put focus on it.
General Greninja IMO the lore is pretty interesting.
Krit KC
I’m not saying that it’s not, I’m just saying I’m glad the game wasn’t bogged down with mountains and mountains of exposition.
AsrielKekker
Tell me three parts where the cutscenes last more than 3 minutes. (No spoilers please)
just in case anyone wants to know, "argent" is latin for silver,
so the argenta, and argent d'nur, is all just silver.
I was imagining that Doom Guy (the Doom Guy from the old 2d games) is the Doom Slayer; At the very end of the final 2D Doom games the Doom Guy decided to stay in Hell and battle Demons. I was imagining that while he was fighting, the Night Sentinels might have discovered him (at this time he may have just been a regular dude whos really good at fighting demons) and recruited him to their ranks as their own. I was thinking that The Betrayer was no ordinary Night Sentinel (he's probably super powerful or with high rank or probably a king himself). After the betrayal he might have realized that he was wrong and was reluctant to discover that the Doom Guy (or the Doom Slayer by now) is still alive. To take revenge on the demons he might have bestowed all of his powers to the Doom Guy he might have even been the original owner of the Praetor Suit (or creator, or he might have enhanced it) And sooo this is why the Doom Guy or the Doom Slayer is extra angry.
From what I understand after revelations in the new game, this is pretty much it.
This is literally the explanation given in the new game. You're so dead on it's not even funny.
It's the same guy from DOOM 64
Also,the betrayer has nothing to do with giving power to Doom Slayer preator suit. Someone gave him some kind of power that made him into a god
Thank you for the structured info. Finally I was able to understand the relation of the Maykrs to ths other involved "parties".
Doom 2016 had quite an elaborate story that went in to great detail far beyond any doom that came before it including backgrounds on all the demons and enemies in the game
Perhaps not as elaborate as the new doom eternal but still miles ahead from any doom before it
Cool story, but I think I would liked more if the DoomSlayer is revealed as the original DoomGuy, trapped after the events of DOOM64
Ricardo Romero he definitely is the doomguy, he’s a human, from earth, but his soul got bonded with the slayer from hell
Yep. He is Doom guy. He was found by Sentinels in their valleys, wearing his classic armor and being a rage inducing and demon hating bastard he is. Muttering "DEMONS. MUST KILL. MUST KILL THEM ALLLLL"
Guys, can´t put into words how good this is, if it´s confirmed
dude, this was very helpful, thanks for putting this together.
the night sentinels are the only warriors that the doomslayer probably feels honoured to fight with
Never knew the lore behind Doom was so interesting. Great video!
Ormero the Father? Is this the same "The Father" that the Maykr's claim has 'vanished'? Also 'Ormero' lol. Nice nod.
i think Ormero is an anagram of Romero which is the surname of John Romero who was one of the co-founders of the DOOM games.
@@subliminallyinc That's why I said "Nice Nod." :P
Dont pretend like there is lore... they made this shit up 6 months ago son
@@bensmith5288 Well I mean yeah the lore is secondary and its just fluff, but eh. Also almost all games plots are made up in like 6 months before release lol. Even more narrative based games.
VEGA is the father.
I'm pretty sure the Night Sentinals are like past DOOM slayers? Like Avatar or Jedis, their past lives are all in the current one. I hope that doesn't sound too woo woo. I just played the whole thing all the way through, go check it out on my channel and skip to the end for the explanation.
Since they’ve gone the whole heaven route with the storyline - wouldn’t it be cool if he took off his mask and it was a war tattered Jesus. Then the demons and everything else would know they never had a chance
The lore is what got me to buy the game
I hope one day Doom guy has companion to Rip and Tear
Thanks for the informative video man. Can’t wait for doom eternal
I still think that the doom slayer is the doom guy from N64. Who stayed in hell to fight the demons and so forth was known as the doom slayer. He probably fought along with the sentinels. Then the only way to beat him was to put him in the coffin he was found on 2016 doom
DAMN STRAIGHT!!!! BROTHA!!! DAMN STRAIGHT
Great video man!
The game will explain this to you if anybody is watching this, you don’t HAVE to see this but it’s a good video regardless.
When I played doom I was curious I wondered what the night sentinels were or are idk
I got the platinum trophy on Doom 2016 and still have no idea what was going on story wise lol
They were smart in DOOM. Putting in the lore but making the player work for it. By running a barebone story while hiding lore it suddenly becomes exciting to find more pieces and put that part together. You get fans comparing notes and debating what this or that means. That's how you keep interest in something well past the game itself.
I dont think doomguy doesnt care about humans, he wants to avenge his pet daisy until they're extinct
Nice lore video dude
4:10 geez that's rings me about Berserk manga
So in the end of the original Doom series, in the last game of that series, I believe Doom 64 there is a little cut scene where it says the Doom Slayer choose to stay in Hell to continuously fight the forces of Hell, (Spoiler Alert) in Doom Eternal when you visit Argent D'Nur you have a flash back of a delirious Doom Slayer be taken by the Sentinels, my point being is that its but directly confirmed by the creators that it is a continuous timeline, the same Doom Slayer, plus they have gone on record agreeing with the theory of a continuous timeline of all the games (as well as a shared timeline with wolfenstein).
1:47 I legitimately thought my video stuttered
argenta weapons for night sentinels:
lightning guns for infantry soldiers and crusaders
ballistas for elite knights
Which is watching this after playing doom eternal
Isn't the word "Knight"? That makes way more sense.
Love these videos!!!
IGN better not gives this game a bad rating like Doom (2016) which it was awesome game
No one takes ign seriously.
I think it would be cool if the Doom Slayer wasn't actually a Night Sentinel, but instead is something of an honorary member who just happened to join them for whatever reason. I feel like that would add more mystery to the Slayers's origin.
The Betrayer is going to save the Slayers life. You heard it here first.
AA Barbone
I’ll keep this In mind, but I can’t see that happening..... if you are right , well said .
@@gavandwina.5889 Just think about it. He betrayed. He now lives in misery. And we now see him in the next game. REPENT
I like when games tell the story without overtly telling the story. Bloodborne did that too.
I love how he spells Argenta D'nur Argenta D'nure
My theory is Doom guy was from a future when 1 -3 take place then he was sent back in time and to the dimension of the Knight sentinels was trained even further by them and ultimately became the Doomslayer after they fell he blamed himself so he self banished himself to the hell Realm to punish himself and all of hell got trapped and then wakes in a similar future or his own hell for all we know he’s the marine you take the plasma rifle off of in doom eternal the marauder has even said you were never one of us a pretender just my crazy theory
The night sentinels harbored the souls of all the badass doom marine protags to join the og doom slayer to help him gain new level of demon slaying power
The Dev Director stated that they wanted to focus much more on the lore of Doom within Doom Eternal..
I’m heat for The ripping and the tearing
Doom guy is just some marine that got into hell in the original doom games. Then at the end took the fight to hell. Millennia later sentinels found him and befriended him and they fought together. Demons could not beat the now Doomsalayer and instead threw him into a tomb. After the fighting was over, the humans in the new earth dimension found hell and doomslayer's coffin. Shit hit the fan and Doom 2016 happened.
This the best lore I have ever heard since god of war!😮
5:45 "he wore the crown of the night sentinels"
I want a full cannon book.series of the complete history of doom.
Rip and tear, until it is done....
Wait if Doom Guy was on the Night Sentinels side how the crap did they lose
1. The order of deag(hell priests) and Valen betrayed and scattered them across hell when they were going to destroy the argent factories in hell and fell in battle with the slayer left on his own.
2. Civil war between the Argenta people with those who chose hell and the maykrs against the loyal sentinels who still held true to the wraiths and there oaths split them up
Not the slayer fault
Shao Khan has arrived from outworld.
Well, Doom Eternal is now out, and as you can see, ID software banking on shooting instead of story was the right one, because in Doom Eternal they focused on story a bit too much.
Porygon-Z uhhhh reread what yeah typed
Maybe we can play as them in the multilayer?
Why couldn't Doom Slayer use the crucible sword in 2016?
Samuel Hayden took it at the end of doom 2016 and sent doom guy away
@@Ninjakiller5776 yes but he had it in possession before the last meeting with Hayden.
@@captainclaw-i5k yes but he got it taken still and the reason he didnt use it is because he didnt have the reason to use it due to Hayden and doom guy working together at the time until hayden pulled the plug
@@Ninjakiller5776 Pretty sure, it's as simple as he didn't know it was a sword.
@@TehLightraven pretty sure he did cuz it reacted to samuel which pretty sure activated its power
To simplify: Doom Slayer is the Last Night Sentinel who must kill/destroy/RIP and TEAR both demon and angel until it is done... so basically DoomGuy Vs Hell & Heaven 😈 😇😡😡😡😡😡
He is the Doom guy from 64. Eternal and 2016 are sequels not a reboot.
Rex Imingan never said it was a reboot,...
@@TheGaza93 oh wrong send. Sorry
AH yes, there is probably gonna be another game. Because in eternal SPOILERS= he kills the makyrs, i.e destroys heaven. So all there is left is the Dark lord and hell. Which will be the final game. Thats what most likely is going to happen.
Lol that scenes reminds me of the control room with masterchief and the key and Cortana appears
I enjoyed what I watched and would like to see more.
I like that they reseble Templar Knights.
Btw, where do you get some of the info on the story? for example, I don't recall hearing the term "wraiths" even once in either of the two games' cutscene movies.
The Wraiths are mentioned several times during 2016 DOOM
Better question:
HOW COME I'M ALWAYS RUNNING OUT OF FUCKING AMMO?!?!
is it NIGHT or KNIGHT?
Whoever doomguy might be it does not matter, a hoonter must hoont
I was just wondering what type of software are using for screen capture, I’m in search for one any recommendations?
Where did this lore come from? I didn’t come across it in 2016
soo wolfenstein and doom are no longer connected?
Where do they get all this information from?
It's not mentioned in text entries in doom 2016
wait. so are they rewriting all of Doom Lore?
what about the the Blaskowitz bloodline?
So The doomslayer is just an overpowered Kaldor Draigo?
Gotta preorder this game
some sentinels seem to have survived
Wish we had spin off game s like halo so we can see the sentinels war and the marines perspective
Im now confusiong the story with bliz's diablo
And I thought all the last 30 years..he is an Space Marine...lol
who was the guy talking at the beginning of doom 2016
They should've just kept Hell a mysterious and ominous realm of chaos. There's no need for this kind of story in Doom. It makes it seem like Diablo.
So were old living beings to be put in an easier way
is it weird that i'm playing Doom Eternal for the story?
Kinda
So are the order of deag and maykrs bad?
Omg I've been playing doom eternal and this cleared up so much. 😁😁😁
Do I need to start playing Doom 64 to understand the lore? Sorry never played Doom before.
Alas they couldn't protect the holy land no matter how hard they tried 😔
In DOOM ETERNAL i saw BIG ROBOTS and BIG DOOM SLAYERS .. anyone can explain
People: doom slayers got no friends lol
Doom slayer: say hello to my homies
Night sentinels: Hello
Intern: nobody invited me?
Doom slayer: now you are
Alll of em: HELL YEAH
demons: OH FU-
Please can I get a link to the thumbnail
Sounds pretty much like 40k. Except with different terms.
So the icon of sin, final boss of Doom 2 and possibly this game is the resurrected son of the Betrayer?
Is it knight or night sentinels? I’m confused
You said Urdan it’s supposed to be Urdak