for those of you who don't think .22 is an effective personal defense round, just watch this video over and over. This gun with these HV rounds can put 5 bullets into a bad guy before he can fall to the floor. The bad guy may not be dead, but he sure will stop whatever he had planned. and that's the point.
I used to work in a hospital ER, and I have done many shifts in the morgue . Everytime I have assisted with an examination of a person killed with a 22. the bullet was never where the wound was. we had to use an Xray to locate the bullet in the body. also the trauma surgeons said the same thing, they had to go looking for the round. its a wild little bullet, and highy underestimated. its enters the body then bounces around off bones, destroyng tissue, and oragans. 22 LR rocks.
By the way, with a new pistol, iron sights, three different loads, wind, you should Never apologize for your shooting. You and Greg are scary shooters !!!!! You rock!!!!!
Absolutely agreed!!! I have heard a lot of people say that the Ruger SR22 is not an accurate pistol but after watching this video I have to totally disagree!!! This pistol is very accurate!!!
this could make for an interesting test in ballistic gel. there have been people that talk about .22lr for self defense (anything is better than nothing) and several people have different choices for ammo. stinger, velocitor, mini-mag, segmented hollow point, sniper subsonic 60gr, to name a few at least. accuracy testing at 10 yards would be easy enough, it would be interesting to compare the difference between rifle and pistol wound channels too
The SR22 is a very good training handgun. You can get way more trigger time shooting a 22lr for your money than even 9mm. It's not a toy, it's a tool that can help with weapon manipulation and trigger control. Using cheap bulk ammo is a great way to do malfunction drills.
You sir are an incredible shot at 50 yards...with a 22 with open sights! I have a Jennings J-22 and from 50 yards I wouldn't be able to hit the woods behind the target let alone the target!!!! lol I just bought a S&W SD9 VE ($379.99) that is the same price as this little gem, so according to the wife I have to wait till X Mass for this one...it will be well worth the wait ! The 9mm gets expensive at the range, but this can be shot all day for a fraction of the price! come on X-Mass !!!!!
I just purchased the sr22 with the silver slide this weekend but i will take it to the range hopefully the following weekend. I also purchased the sd9ve last year and love it. My friend rented the glock19 and i like the sd9 better overall. The only thing better about the g19 was the trigger pull.
Damn time truely changes pricing. I paid 479 plus tax so about 515. Sending mine to ruger today because almost every other bullet is a failure to feed issue and that can't be right out the box with a brand new gun
I keep CCI Mini Mags in my 22A-1 for defensive purposes, it seems to cycle fine, but it definitely likes Federal Bulk the best. Thanks for the heads up on Velocitor, I have never tried it, but will stay away. Mine feeds stingers fine also, I think Mini Mags and Stingers are the top two choices.
I was looking at this ruger today at my local gun shop. I love the way it feels in hand. Thanks for such a indept review, going to go back and pick it up tomorrow.
Pretty impress that you could hit that target fairly accurately from 150 feet away with a pistol. That's a nice little handgun right there. Thanks for posting this.
Not advocating the use of a .22 lr as a defensive weapon, but it is my number one choice for a survival weapon. I like your video and presentation style and would very much like to see you use CCI's MiniMag, Velocitor, Stinger, and Federal Bulk CPHP in your ballistic sim test fired from this pistol. I have enjoyed your 22 cal. Sim test videos before, but would like to see their performance from a pistol at say 7-10 yards. Many people are talking about carrying this type of weapon as a back up o
Instructive and to the point review. Just want to share to all that the Remington 22 Golden Bullet and the 22 Yellow Jacket HP also a match made in heaven with the SR22.
Thanks a ton for the chrono numbers. I have a Ruger SR22 and love it. I've put about 4000 rounds through it without a single malfunction. I use all three of these rounds and the higher velocity rounds loosing a higher percentage of velocity is a real eye opener. I'll stick with the Velocitor as my hunting and last ditch self defense round. It has the highest muzzle energy and is the most accurate out of my SR22.
Great vid sir. I miss your evaluations. That little Ruger seems pretty reliable. I wish we could buy them in California. It’s not on our “approved “ list. Hope we see more of you.
Wow, very informative. I knew the velocities would be lower, but I was surprised at the fact there was only about a 60fps spread between the three. I have a friend that bought one of these. It will feed every brand and type of .22lr he has tried were as my Walther is picky, and only likes the higher grades of ammo. Great video friend.
Sticking with the "Hammer of Thor" for the time being. It's the only round that feeds reliably in my JA-22. I tried the winchester white box which on paper look to be the same round, however I get a few duds and I get a FTE half the time with them. Same goes for Remington Thunderbolts and Federals.
Whoa, you got some nice muzzle flash with those Stingers! I'm not the biggest fan of Sturm, Ruger... but this seems like a quality firearm. I may have to make this my next purchase (you can never have too many .22s). Your videos are very professional and informative. Nice work!
I shot my SR22 for the first time today I shot federal lightning, remington bulk pack copper HP. CCI mini mag plated round nose. Federal plated HP, and cci stingers. I only had one failure to feed out of 500 rounds and that was 1 out of the 50 rounds of cci stinger I shot. For a 22 the reliability is amazing. I didn't have to polish the feed ramp either they got this one right from the factory.
@ pgmlml... About barrel length and speed. A 22lr reaches max speed at about 16" in a rifle barrel. So for every inch shorter the barrel is, the slower it is. The same goes for a longer barrel. If your shooting this ammo through a longer barrel it will also slow down. It has to do with how long it takes to burn all of the powder in the case and what ammo your using. That 16" will vary depending on how hot the ammo is. Stingers will probably stretch out to about 18" max speed, and standard velocities will max out at about 14".
Sweet video! Greatly appreciated! The quality was great the information was great! I've been obsessing over the sr22...I'm gonna have to buy one haha. Thanks again!
Next to "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" the argument "Is rimfire and acceptable CCW caliber?" is easily number two on the list of never ending, non-conclusive arguments. But when I see you knocking out ten accurate chest shots in under five seconds at twenty yards I can't help but think this little gun can stop an assailant. I sure wouldn't charge you if you had that thing pointed at me!
Great video! Surprising the amount of drop and it shows there is no need to buy the expensive ammo because you are not going to get a huge increase in velocity.
Great video. Thanks. I would like to see the same basic test with the same handgun, same ammo and add in the 10/22. This would be to show the increase in performance of the ammo due the 23%-25% increase in performance via the longer barrel. I like the idea of having a sidearm and rifle of the same caliber. With my 22's I'll never go hungry. If I have to step up a notch or two I reach for my 357's, 5 shot sidearm and a single shot rifle. I handload for both. Handgun loads differ from the rifle, the rifle can handle hotter loadings due to the very heavy chamber. The 22" barrel really make factory pistol loads sizzle. Paper plate, 50yds, 4" SS target revolver, two handed grip, CCI Mini Mags 40gn rn, 8 shots, all on the plate. Practice. 10/22 same ammo with scope, paper plate at 50, 2" group of 10.
Velocitor has the most energy as tested. 50yd performance really doesn't mean anything. I bet he could be 10 for 10 at 25yds. I shoot the fiber optic front sight version of the SR22 at 10yds all the time, very accurate.
The higher power CCI loads use slower powder, really optimized for longer barrels. The Stinger's like an exceptionally long barrel for a .22, around 20 inches in my experience.
Amazing. The table you created suggests to me that it's a waste of money to shoot the more expensive velocitors and stingers from pistols in this barrel size range.
Good to see a pure cci ammo review of the sr22,I have been a fan of the cci brand since they were $2 per hundred.Randy,you will get the advertised velocity out of a rifle,or at least close.Tnoutdoors9/nice effort off hand with a breeze at 50 yards,with a short barreled 22lr semi auto
Aha! Search feature on your channel works great. I just watched the CCI stinger shot out of the 10/22. But I was curious if you had done any out of a pistol. And I find the exact pistol that I am carrying this load in. So I get to see exactly what I wanted to see. Thanks!
I was having the exact same problem, and sent my SR22 in to Ruger and they said they replaced the "Decock hammer stop". I just received it today, but plan to go test it out soon. If you end up sending in for a repair, don't worry about being without for too long, cause I had mine back 8 days exactly after I sent it in.
understand that the principle he stated at 2:00 was because the highest velocity round decreased velocity percentage the most BECAUSE ITS THE LIGHTEST BULLET
I will tell you from experience... If you don't use a powerful left hand grip on your pistol, you will tend to shoot left. Especially with an isosceles stance. It's not as important, when using a weaver stance. It all has to do with natural alignment. Play around with different grips, and stances. You will find your natural point of aim...
Just FYI, I was raised on a cattle ranch/farm back in the 70s. I was paid to eradicate rock chucks and ground squirrels from pastures. I used a Ruger 10-22 and/or a Ruger Mark I Target pistol. The ammo that I used back then was primarily CCI mini-mags 36 gr. HP and two things were apparent; 1. Duds! When the primer compound did not get spun properly into the case rim for reliable ignition. That is still a problem with ALL .22 rimfire ammo regardless who makes it! 2. .22lr could not then, nor now, be relied upon to always anchor 5-6 pound rock chucks even with solid shoulder hits at 25 yards using the 10-22. CCI came out in 77, I believe, with the Stingers in the same 32 grain HP bullet configuration and we tried them on rock chucks... the performance was pathetic! They failed more often to put down the same size rock chucks that than the mini-mags did! So, those were not used for anything but ground squirrels ... Using the .22lr on 180 pound bad guys? Laughable... If chance found me with nothing else with which to defend myself, okay. But to intentionally arm with this caliber? Delusional at best.
yeah i dont think ballistic works the way you plan to make it believe... i have lost countless rabbits and dove with a co2 pelletgun doing less than 5fpe yet two kids in ROTC where playing around with sub 5fpe pellet guns with waddcutters, one shot the other through the heart, instant death... Its all about shot placement and i dont think anyone will want to take a magazine dump of .22
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Am I correct in saying that for defense, the penetration is more important than the expansion? So if I went with the 40grn mini mag lead round nose, that would be similar to velocitor. I ask cause I have a sr22 and in process of getting lcr22 cause want a revolver. Either or for the wife or I even though I usually use a Glock 26.
@Dietzeeeee My browning buckmark has ran everything, and has been 100% straight out of the box. The only issues I ever had was some of the exceptionally bad federal bulk packs from walmart. Since those have largely been replaced with winchester bulk packs, it's ran ad reliable as my glocks, sigs, and 1911s. Quite an amazingly reliable gun, it still shocks me at the range.
@skyhop I noticed that. I have recently really taken an interest in 22LR. I have been mostly a center-fire rifle and handgun guy before that but I can shoot so much more for so much less $ I also just got a ruger 10-22 for $100 I swapped out the extractor claw for a "sharp" after market one changed the bolt stop and get an extended mag release that thing runs like a charm.
Great review so I bought one, I like the small grip best, with large one I was getting some hammer bit. Also my SR22 hates Blazer ammo. Four boxes shot and about 20 rounds went wild and key-holed. I then shot a 525 box of Federal bulk with no problems. I guess it's stick with what works
Great video, thanks for it. I shoot rem yellow jackets, rem golden, mini mags and stingers through my Mosquito. The stingers are by far the best for me overall.
Because they are mostly used for concealed carry/self defense. The main reason of having a .22 pistol is to shoot at a threat and get away. Which is why trainers say "you only need 10 rounds in a self defense situation".
50 yd. shooting.... that was great shooting. Nice Ruger... I kinda fancy it....maybe by the end of the yr. I'll get me one... if the world is still here..LOL Good Video
The velocitor, out of a rifle it leaves the stingers in the dust past 30-50 yards. If you want even more power try Aguila interceptor 40gr it has as much muzzle energy as the stingers from the muzzle and that 40gr keeps going longer.
@Uncrust Hes using a pistol, those are all calibrated for rifle rounds. Any hi vel .22 will crono that, because the maximum acceleration doesn't decrease for a few more inches, and in a pistol the barrel is not long enough. In a rifle, I would expect these rounds to perform at or above their rating, CCI is a good company.
No, but KelTec did make ONE that was a submachine gun, just to test the feeding of the 30rd magazine. Look it up it's somewhere on RUclips. That thing has a blazing fast cyclic rate. I'd guess somewhere north of 800rds/min. It would be awesome if they put that thing into production!
I just hit my 10" gong 14/16 times with my TX-22(4.1" bbl), from 50 yards, using crappy Winchester M22 ammo. I shoot a lot tho... Can keep sub 3" groups from 10 yards. Great pistol! I LOVE IT!!!!! I wish that you would do a review on one, so everyone can see that Taurus is kicking butt these days. I haven't even shot my AR, since I bought my TX-22. That's saying something!! lol
Have you had any issues with lead fouling in your barrel? If not, what ammo are you shooting. Less than 200 rounds through my brand new TX yesterday and totally fouled the barrel. Nothing but keyholes. Shooting Rem. Thunderbolt. :(
all the velocitys on the box's are for rifles with a 24" inch barrel all 3 of these have a slower burning powder to make it burn for longer and use more of the barrel to gain velocity normal .22 starts losing velocity at about 16" thats why if you put a 30"+ barrel on a .22 its silent without a silencer these long barreled guns have been called long toms
I'd love to see the comparison between a rifle barrel and a pistol barrel on a chronograph. Also, you may hate me for this, but it'd seem you were pulling some of the trigger pulls. Either that or you have a secret grudge against that tree on the left.
Not sure what this video is supposed to be presenting. Muzzle velocity is kinda helpful, even though you provide a handgun short barrel test against the longer rifle barrel standard FPS numbers. Other than that, this was pretty much just a demonstration of your shooting skills. Pretty good as they are.
You know CCI velocity specs are based on a longer barrel firearm. 16” I think. You should do a velocity comparison from the sr22 and same box of ammo through a 10/22
The short barrel can only burn so much powder before the bullet exits the muzzle. Thats why all the loads were traveling around the same speed. At least thats what i make of it
I really like and appreciate your work. Your videos are always informative and professional. Thank you. BTW, I found your RUclips cannel through Hickok45, I know you are a good friend of him and his son John.....I enjoy both your channels. You are good people.
Its good for plinking, I have hit a beer can with mine at 50yds, it is also a exallant trainer for those carrying defense pistols, a great first side arm for new shooters. I also hit a skunk in the head at about 25 yds with mine last night. So I would not call it useless. I have a MK III target and it is better in its own aspects but each pistol has its own purpos
The higher the velocity the slower burning the powder usually is & needs a longer barrel. They need to tailor quick burning pistol loads in .22 though there's a point accuracy is just going to be destroyed. I'd love to be able to load the rounds & test them myself, you'd think manufacturers would do a tiny bit of research into what load is optimal for pistols & all popular lengths, like standard loads only use bout 16" for the best ballistic return.
Ruger does it with their 10-22 rifle. The magazine is relatively huge. Still, if they designed a pistol with a 6 inch barrel around it, I would not throw it back in their face.
im not too surprised at the loss of velocity but i never would have thought that it would drop off so much. almost 500 fps less than rifle velocity in the same load. that is almost scary. not sure if it would pain me or interest me to see how the velocity and bullet-performance of a full-sized rifle round would behave if fired from a pistol-length barrel (no more than 9" long)
I've seen 1500lb steers and large hogs dropped by a .22lr in the hands of an expert butcher. They folded INSTANTLY. Also handled a black bear skull killed by .22lr. As I said, I do not dispute its ability to kill, and I shoot .22 more than anything else- because of its affordability & fun factor. I am a fan! But would I pick it first to defend my home or for CCW (when I finally move somewhere sane)? Probably not! But a great little round, ABSOLUTELY!
"...still looking for that perfect 10." LOL Ain't we all, brother! :) Seriously, your eval posts are great. Vids are VERY well done. Been subbed for a while and will cont. so. THANKS!
for those of you who don't think .22 is an effective personal defense round, just watch this video over and over. This gun with these HV rounds can put 5 bullets into a bad guy before he can fall to the floor. The bad guy may not be dead, but he sure will stop whatever he had planned. and that's the point.
Mini mag 36gr - 81 ft. lbs
Stinger 32gr. - 82 ft lbs.
Velocitor 40gr. - 92 ft lbs
I used to work in a hospital ER, and I have done many shifts in the morgue . Everytime I have assisted with an examination of a person killed with a 22. the bullet was never where the wound was. we had to use an Xray to locate the bullet in the body. also the trauma surgeons said the same thing, they had to go looking for the round. its a wild little bullet, and highy underestimated. its enters the body then bounces around off bones, destroyng tissue, and oragans. 22 LR rocks.
By the way, with a new pistol, iron sights, three different loads, wind, you should Never apologize for your shooting. You and Greg are scary shooters !!!!! You rock!!!!!
50yds with a 22 pistol. is no easy task. good shooting!
Absolutely agreed!!! I have heard a lot of people say that the Ruger SR22 is not an accurate pistol but after watching this video I have to totally disagree!!! This pistol is very accurate!!!
Thank you for not having long who cares 2 minute ego intro
this could make for an interesting test in ballistic gel. there have been people that talk about .22lr for self defense (anything is better than nothing) and several people have different choices for ammo. stinger, velocitor, mini-mag, segmented hollow point, sniper subsonic 60gr, to name a few at least. accuracy testing at 10 yards would be easy enough, it would be interesting to compare the difference between rifle and pistol wound channels too
The SR22 is a very good training handgun. You can get way more trigger time shooting a 22lr for your money than even 9mm. It's not a toy, it's a tool that can help with weapon manipulation and trigger control. Using cheap bulk ammo is a great way to do malfunction drills.
You sir are an incredible shot at 50 yards...with a 22 with open sights! I have a Jennings J-22 and from 50 yards I wouldn't be able to hit the woods behind the target let alone the target!!!! lol I just bought a S&W SD9 VE ($379.99) that is the same price as this little gem, so according to the wife I have to wait till X Mass for this one...it will be well worth the wait ! The 9mm gets expensive at the range, but this can be shot all day for a fraction of the price! come on X-Mass !!!!!
Frank, I recommend the fiber optic front sight model. I think #3627.
I just purchased the sr22 with the silver slide this weekend but i will take it to the range hopefully the following weekend. I also purchased the sd9ve last year and love it. My friend rented the glock19 and i like the sd9 better overall. The only thing better about the g19 was the trigger pull.
Damn time truely changes pricing. I paid 479 plus tax so about 515. Sending mine to ruger today because almost every other bullet is a failure to feed issue and that can't be right out the box with a brand new gun
I keep CCI Mini Mags in my 22A-1 for defensive purposes, it seems to cycle fine, but it definitely likes Federal Bulk the best. Thanks for the heads up on Velocitor, I have never tried it, but will stay away. Mine feeds stingers fine also, I think Mini Mags and Stingers are the top two choices.
I was looking at this ruger today at my local gun shop. I love the way it feels in hand. Thanks for such a indept review, going to go back and pick it up tomorrow.
Pretty impress that you could hit that target fairly accurately from 150 feet away with a pistol. That's a nice little handgun right there. Thanks for posting this.
Not advocating the use of a .22 lr as a defensive weapon, but it is my number one choice for a survival weapon. I like your video and presentation style and would very much like to see you use CCI's MiniMag, Velocitor, Stinger, and Federal Bulk CPHP in your ballistic sim test fired from this pistol. I have enjoyed your 22 cal. Sim test videos before, but would like to see their performance from a pistol at say 7-10 yards. Many people are talking about carrying this type of weapon as a back up o
Yes, this is one of the nicest .22 pistols, along with the S&W M&P22
Instructive and to the point review. Just want to share to all that the Remington 22 Golden Bullet and the 22 Yellow Jacket HP also a match made in heaven with the SR22.
great shooting really like this gun i love ruger i have the ruger american 22 bolt action and it is awesome thanks for sharing
Thanks a ton for the chrono numbers. I have a Ruger SR22 and love it. I've put about 4000 rounds through it without a single malfunction. I use all three of these rounds and the higher velocity rounds loosing a higher percentage of velocity is a real eye opener. I'll stick with the Velocitor as my hunting and last ditch self defense round. It has the highest muzzle energy and is the most accurate out of my SR22.
Great video. Well done!! Just got my SR22 a week ago can’t wait to get it to the range.
Great vid sir. I miss your evaluations. That little Ruger seems pretty reliable. I wish we could buy them in California. It’s not on our “approved “ list. Hope we see more of you.
These were recently added back onto the roster. Started my 10 day on one.
Wow, very informative. I knew the velocities would be lower, but I was surprised at the fact there was only about a 60fps spread between the three. I have a friend that bought one of these. It will feed every brand and type of .22lr he has tried were as my Walther is picky, and only likes the higher grades of ammo. Great video friend.
i'm so happy we have tndoudoors9 and hickok45 here on youtube. between the two of them we have about all we can ask for.
The Velocitor 40 gr is definitely the best choice for a 22 LR pistol. It has the highest energy. It was the only one to surpass 100 ft-lbs
Sticking with the "Hammer of Thor" for the time being. It's the only round that feeds reliably in my JA-22. I tried the winchester white box which on paper look to be the same round, however I get a few duds and I get a FTE half the time with them. Same goes for Remington Thunderbolts and Federals.
Whoa, you got some nice muzzle flash with those Stingers! I'm not the biggest fan of Sturm, Ruger... but this seems like a quality firearm. I may have to make this my next purchase (you can never have too many .22s). Your videos are very professional and informative. Nice work!
I shot my SR22 for the first time today I shot federal lightning, remington bulk pack copper HP. CCI mini mag plated round nose. Federal plated HP, and cci stingers. I only had one failure to feed out of 500 rounds and that was 1 out of the 50 rounds of cci stinger I shot. For a 22 the reliability is amazing. I didn't have to polish the feed ramp either they got this one right from the factory.
I realy like your videos . They're well shot , realy informative , and your commentary is easy to listen to yet to the point ....well done :)
@ pgmlml... About barrel length and speed. A 22lr reaches max speed at about 16" in a rifle barrel. So for every inch shorter the barrel is, the slower it is. The same goes for a longer barrel. If your shooting this ammo through a longer barrel it will also slow down. It has to do with how long it takes to burn all of the powder in the case and what ammo your using. That 16" will vary depending on how hot the ammo is. Stingers will probably stretch out to about 18" max speed, and standard velocities will max out at about 14".
In a test, Stingers increased velocity up to a 26 inch barrel. True story. They have slow burning powder.
Again awesome clarity of voice and picture....your data review and attention to detail......fantastic....I want an sr 22 after seeing this....
SR22 the best gun... love it..
this video makes me apreciate my 5.5" bull berrel Ruger 22/45 target pistol ; )
VERY informative as are all of your videos!
You do great videos. Really in-depth and thorough
Another excellent rundown - Thx...!
Sweet video! Greatly appreciated! The quality was great the information was great! I've been obsessing over the sr22...I'm gonna have to buy one haha. Thanks again!
Next to "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" the argument "Is rimfire and acceptable CCW caliber?" is easily number two on the list of never ending, non-conclusive arguments. But when I see you knocking out ten accurate chest shots in under five seconds at twenty yards I can't help but think this little gun can stop an assailant. I sure wouldn't charge you if you had that thing pointed at me!
Nice review.
Great video! Surprising the amount of drop and it shows there is no need to buy the expensive ammo because you are not going to get a huge increase in velocity.
It would be good to update this video with the new Ruger sr22 with 4.5 inches barrel. Should be very interesting how much increase is gain.
Great Video
90 rounds and not one misfire or hang up. I am sold.
Great video. Thanks. I would like to see the same basic test with the same handgun, same ammo and add in the 10/22. This would be to show the increase in performance of the ammo due the 23%-25% increase in performance via the longer barrel.
I like the idea of having a sidearm and rifle of the same caliber.
With my 22's I'll never go hungry. If I have to step up a notch or two I reach for my 357's, 5 shot sidearm and a single shot rifle. I handload for both. Handgun loads differ from the rifle, the rifle can handle hotter loadings due to the very heavy chamber. The 22" barrel really make factory pistol loads sizzle.
Paper plate, 50yds, 4" SS target revolver, two handed grip, CCI Mini Mags 40gn rn, 8 shots, all on the plate. Practice.
10/22 same ammo with scope, paper plate at 50, 2" group of 10.
Your video parts 1 and 2 on the Sr 22 was very good! Thanks for all the thorough info.
thanks for great vid ! i smiled when i saw you firing the sr22 (i just got one) using cci stringers. it appears i made two good buys. i'm a newbie.
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Velocitor has the most energy as tested. 50yd performance really doesn't mean anything. I bet he could be 10 for 10 at 25yds. I shoot the fiber optic front sight version of the SR22 at 10yds all the time, very accurate.
The higher power CCI loads use slower powder, really optimized for longer barrels. The Stinger's like an exceptionally long barrel for a .22, around 20 inches in my experience.
I find with .22lr that the faster the bullet the less accurate it is. My SR22 needs CCI or any hot load to function.
I enjoy all of your reviews. Thanks and keep them going.
Amazing. The table you created suggests to me that it's a waste of money to shoot the more expensive velocitors and stingers from pistols in this barrel size range.
Good to see a pure cci ammo review of the sr22,I have been a fan of the cci brand since they were $2 per hundred.Randy,you will get the advertised velocity out of a rifle,or at least close.Tnoutdoors9/nice effort off hand with a breeze at 50 yards,with a short barreled 22lr semi auto
Aha! Search feature on your channel works great. I just watched the CCI stinger shot out of the 10/22. But I was curious if you had done any out of a pistol. And I find the exact pistol that I am carrying this load in. So I get to see exactly what I wanted to see. Thanks!
I was having the exact same problem, and sent my SR22 in to Ruger and they said they replaced the "Decock hammer stop". I just received it today, but plan to go test it out soon. If you end up sending in for a repair, don't worry about being without for too long, cause I had mine back 8 days exactly after I sent it in.
Nice video..... love the gun and the Stingers!!!
Thanks for the fps-test; interesting how much energy get's lost using a pistol than a rifle!
understand that the principle he stated at 2:00 was because the highest velocity round decreased velocity percentage the most BECAUSE ITS THE LIGHTEST BULLET
And a more progressive powder which needs a longer barrel to be burnt completely
@@pericodelospalotes5738 Those flames really make it worth the price of admission tho. Can't wait to shoot them at night time.
I will tell you from experience... If you don't use a powerful left hand grip on your pistol, you will tend to shoot left. Especially with an isosceles stance. It's not as important, when using a weaver stance. It all has to do with natural alignment. Play around with different grips, and stances. You will find your natural point of aim...
That's a wicked little pistol.
Just FYI, I was raised on a cattle ranch/farm back in the 70s. I was paid to eradicate rock chucks and ground squirrels from pastures. I used a Ruger 10-22 and/or a Ruger Mark I Target pistol. The ammo that I used back then was primarily CCI mini-mags 36 gr. HP and two things were apparent; 1. Duds! When the primer compound did not get spun properly into the case rim for reliable ignition. That is still a problem with ALL .22 rimfire ammo regardless who makes it! 2. .22lr could not then, nor now, be relied upon to always anchor 5-6 pound rock chucks even with solid shoulder hits at 25 yards using the 10-22. CCI came out in 77, I believe, with the Stingers in the same 32 grain HP bullet configuration and we tried them on rock chucks... the performance was pathetic! They failed more often to put down the same size rock chucks that than the mini-mags did! So, those were not used for anything but ground squirrels ...
Using the .22lr on 180 pound bad guys? Laughable... If chance found me with nothing else with which to defend myself, okay. But to intentionally arm with this caliber? Delusional at best.
yeah i dont think ballistic works the way you plan to make it believe... i have lost countless rabbits and dove with a co2 pelletgun doing less than 5fpe yet two kids in ROTC where playing around with sub 5fpe pellet guns with waddcutters, one shot the other through the heart, instant death... Its all about shot placement and i dont think anyone will want to take a magazine dump of .22
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This pistol has had my eye for awhile now,,,,it's only a matter of time ! Lol Great job ! 😁🖒🇺🇸
Great video! Definitely be watching more from this channel. Got a bid on a SR22 right now.
Love your videos. This pistol is likely my next purchase. Thank you for the information in both vids.
keep it up, i loved the .22 and the foster slug ballistic test videos
Very nice review video here. Thanks
If I was using a SR22 for self-defense I would chose the CCI Velocitor. Heavier projectile and still high FPS.
agree 100%
Or the 40 grain solid mini-mag
Am I correct in saying that for defense, the penetration is more important than the expansion? So if I went with the 40grn mini mag lead round nose, that would be similar to velocitor. I ask cause I have a sr22 and in process of getting lcr22 cause want a revolver. Either or for the wife or I even though I usually use a Glock 26.
this is my backup setup exactly, the SR22p and Velocitors.... flawless operation and high ballistics for a 22lr
Stingers penetrate more
@Dietzeeeee
My browning buckmark has ran everything, and has been 100% straight out of the box. The only issues I ever had was some of the exceptionally bad federal bulk packs from walmart. Since those have largely been replaced with winchester bulk packs, it's ran ad reliable as my glocks, sigs, and 1911s. Quite an amazingly reliable gun, it still shocks me at the range.
@skyhop I noticed that. I have recently really taken an interest in 22LR. I have been mostly a center-fire rifle and handgun guy before that but I can shoot so much more for so much less $ I also just got a ruger 10-22 for $100 I swapped out the extractor claw for a "sharp" after market one changed the bolt stop and get an extended mag release that thing runs like a charm.
i buy only 40 graine Winchester never had an issue.
Great review so I bought one, I like the small grip best, with large one I was getting some hammer bit. Also my SR22 hates Blazer ammo. Four boxes shot and about 20 rounds went wild and key-holed. I then shot a 525 box of Federal bulk with no problems. I guess it's stick with what works
Great video, thanks for it. I shoot rem yellow jackets, rem golden, mini mags and stingers through my Mosquito. The stingers are by far the best for me overall.
Because they are mostly used for concealed carry/self defense. The main reason of having a .22 pistol is to shoot at a threat and get away. Which is why trainers say "you only need 10 rounds in a self defense situation".
Great review! Just wondering what the velocities are out of a long gun. Are they more along the lines of what is advertised?
50 yd. shooting.... that was great shooting. Nice Ruger... I kinda fancy it....maybe by the end of the yr. I'll get me one... if the world is still here..LOL Good Video
i pretty much use only mini mags in all my .22s now. It almost never fails and it is worth paying a little more to wield the hammer of Thor!
My SR22 broke on the fifth round with CCI stinger rounds. Take down lever shattered. But i still like it.
The velocitor, out of a rifle it leaves the stingers in the dust past 30-50 yards. If you want even more power try Aguila interceptor 40gr it has as much muzzle energy as the stingers from the muzzle and that 40gr keeps going longer.
@Uncrust Hes using a pistol, those are all calibrated for rifle rounds. Any hi vel .22 will crono that, because the maximum acceleration doesn't decrease for a few more inches, and in a pistol the barrel is not long enough. In a rifle, I would expect these rounds to perform at or above their rating, CCI is a good company.
No, but KelTec did make ONE that was a submachine gun, just to test the feeding of the 30rd magazine. Look it up it's somewhere on RUclips. That thing has a blazing fast cyclic rate. I'd guess somewhere north of 800rds/min.
It would be awesome if they put that thing into production!
Excellent review and analysis.
i have the sr22 with stingers as a personal carry when i want to carry light,, also have 1 as a safe queen,,, love the sr22
I just hit my 10" gong 14/16 times with my TX-22(4.1" bbl), from 50 yards, using crappy Winchester M22 ammo. I shoot a lot tho... Can keep sub 3" groups from 10 yards. Great pistol! I LOVE IT!!!!! I wish that you would do a review on one, so everyone can see that Taurus is kicking butt these days. I haven't even shot my AR, since I bought my TX-22. That's saying something!! lol
Have you had any issues with lead fouling in your barrel? If not, what ammo are you shooting. Less than 200 rounds through my brand new TX yesterday and totally fouled the barrel. Nothing but keyholes. Shooting Rem. Thunderbolt. :(
all the velocitys on the box's are for rifles with a 24" inch barrel all 3 of these have a slower burning powder to make it burn for longer and use more of the barrel to gain velocity
normal .22 starts losing velocity at about 16" thats why if you put a 30"+ barrel on a .22 its silent without a silencer these long barreled guns have been called long toms
Thank you for the great vids as always! Keep them coming!
I'd love to see the comparison between a rifle barrel and a pistol barrel on a chronograph. Also, you may hate me for this, but it'd seem you were pulling some of the trigger pulls. Either that or you have a secret grudge against that tree on the left.
Not sure what this video is supposed to be presenting. Muzzle velocity is kinda helpful, even though you provide a handgun short barrel test against the longer rifle barrel standard FPS numbers. Other than that, this was pretty much just a demonstration of your shooting skills. Pretty good as they are.
Good job! The numbers were pretty interesting.
You know CCI velocity specs are based on a longer barrel firearm. 16” I think. You should do a velocity comparison from the sr22 and same box of ammo through a 10/22
The short barrel can only burn so much powder before the bullet exits the muzzle. Thats why all the loads were traveling around the same speed. At least thats what i make of it
I really like and appreciate your work. Your videos are always informative and professional. Thank you. BTW, I found your RUclips cannel through Hickok45, I know you are a good friend of him and his son John.....I enjoy both your channels. You are good people.
Friggin awesome vids!!! subbed!!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Its good for plinking, I have hit a beer can with mine at 50yds, it is also a exallant trainer for those carrying defense pistols, a great first side arm for new shooters. I also hit a skunk in the head at about 25 yds with mine last night. So I would not call it useless. I have a MK III target and it is better in its own aspects but each pistol has its own purpos
The high velocity 22 short doesn't lose much velocity out of a pistol. I think the weapon choices are limited though. The Beretta Minx comes to mind.
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The higher the velocity the slower burning the powder usually is & needs a longer barrel. They need to tailor quick burning pistol loads in .22 though there's a point accuracy is just going to be destroyed. I'd love to be able to load the rounds & test them myself, you'd think manufacturers would do a tiny bit of research into what load is optimal for pistols & all popular lengths, like standard loads only use bout 16" for the best ballistic return.
Ruger does it with their 10-22 rifle. The magazine is relatively huge. Still, if they designed a pistol with a 6 inch barrel around it, I would not throw it back in their face.
I have a Ruger Mark IV with a 6” barrel. Very accurate
im not too surprised at the loss of velocity but i never would have thought that it would drop off so much. almost 500 fps less than rifle velocity in the same load. that is almost scary. not sure if it would pain me or interest me to see how the velocity and bullet-performance of a full-sized rifle round would behave if fired from a pistol-length barrel (no more than 9" long)
Thanks for the vid, i'v been looking into a .22 handgun, now I think ill get a ruger sr22.
I've seen 1500lb steers and large hogs dropped by a .22lr in the hands of an expert butcher. They folded INSTANTLY. Also handled a black bear skull killed by .22lr. As I said, I do not dispute its ability to kill, and I shoot .22 more than anything else- because of its affordability & fun factor. I am a fan! But would I pick it first to defend my home or for CCW (when I finally move somewhere sane)? Probably not! But a great little round, ABSOLUTELY!
Nice test TN. actually quite intresting these .22 tests.
"...still looking for that perfect 10." LOL Ain't we all, brother! :) Seriously, your eval posts are great. Vids are VERY well done. Been subbed for a while and will cont. so. THANKS!
i like how you take the time to make that chart if you did