Gran Turismo 7 Physics Revolution! Is it fixed?
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2023
- Gran Turismo 7 new update has bags of cool improvements. Today we check if the physics improve and where it fails.
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Tell me your saxophone opinions.
i love sax, do u know the midnight-vampires? Its got one of the best sax solos i`ve ever listenes
GT 7 just keeps getting better
Stfu its not better, the game was allready good before the update, instead of fixing existing issues PD fucked up the game even more!!!!
Smooth jazz, the understeer of music genres.
Dude hahahha
Thank you for this comment 🙏🏽
Understeer is more to do with too much trail braking, like real cars
Brake more before turning, let the weight transfer, and the cars turn well
This is quite obvious in VR, as you see the car movements
Was just about to say this, thank you. Who cares about drifting anyway? Dumb complaint from him imho. Go play a drifting game if you want to drift, not a circuit racing game. The Drift trial mode is just a 5 minute afterthought by PD, I doubt they actually put much effort into it from GT5 on.
Funny you say that when PD added for gt7 drifting components, there's a drift trial in pretty much every track, and drifiting has been big in gt since the ps2 era.
No it's not a stupid complaint, the tyre slip angle falls through a cliff and that can even be seen without going drifting as the tyres aren't playful past the slip angle peak.
@@randomcallsign I don't drift, but your comments certainly seem valid on that aspect
@@randomcallsign It is what it is, no sim will ever be perfect and i just accept it at this point. I enjoy your videos, but I guess I'm just the type of guy to go play the sim that specializes in what motorsports I'd like to do at that moment. Everybody is welcome to their opinions, i've just never really seen GT as a drifting game but after seeing all the different cars I could see why someone would want to drift, but I still think there is better games for drifting. And honestly I don't really notice the grip falling off a cliff unless I'm overdriving the car, which I shouldn't do anyway if I want to be fast at least.
Polyphony knows its never going to get the hard-core PC sim racers but I like the game and the vibe of the game for what it is. It's just fun to me.
@2K Tan Overdriving helps get faster lap times sometimes. Iracers have the same complaint. When you can't slide, you can't drive aggressively.
On gamepad the tracktion control definitely has changed in terms of sensitivity. Before, I could set it to 1 and tires wouldn't spin when accelerating out of a corner full throttle. And after that there just was 0, so hitting the paddle too hard meant instant spin on acceleration. Now I have to set it to 3 have so the trackrtion control works as expected. But it's definitely more fun since this way, because there's much more control between off and having a little bit of tracktion control, so can hav a bit of wheelspin and sliding for more fun.
Downforce works at low speed but doesn’t feel like it increases exponentially like it should at high speed, it just stays the same which makes the car feel understeery. Setup changes can help but doesn’t fix the core fundamental issue. Independent of downforce even the low speed entry understeer sucks balls on FR race cars. I see where they were going with these physics and I like the FFB changes but it feels like by trying to fix MR GR3 cars they fucked a lot of other cars to the point where a proper setup can’t even save them.
That’s very true, My C6 is useless for now
They fucked the 4wd cars and FF cars alot of wheel spin and drifting and lack of ratation on low speed turns
No
That was my sense too. I've moved to MR cars now as a result. FRs are just too frustrating following this update.
@@Ricky_Baldy you mean the fact that you can't just keep your foot flat out of corners now?
Im glad u made this video!
Good to see they are working on it! For me, as soon as i saw how cars behave beyond the griplimit back last year in drifting, i instantly went back to AC and never looked back 😅
Feels amazing on my dd pro, couldn't be happier.
I've got a DD Pro as well. What changes are you seeing that are most important to you, or is it just an overall feeling of 'better'? I'm not a gearhead, so don't expect me to even answer this!
Before this update, I only drove in sport mode since street cars were undriveable. Now this really opens the game up for me and I can enjoy almost all kinds of cars.
Well done PD 👏
The chosen wheel diameter as well as width/depth will effect PP as well.
It feels now like the rotation is a lot more controllable in a turn, within the tire traction, instead of doing mini drifts around turns. It was feeling more like gt2. You aren’t on a knife’s edge on the exit either. The wheels feel a lot more responsive to turning, even over turning, instead of having to jam the stick full left and right to try to coaxe it around (using the controller). The cars look more realistic too as they go in and out of traction in the corners in front of you.
Also I think they might have made crb easier in tokyo, I brushed two cars and cut inside the last turn and still got it.
Pretty happy after having to spend all day to reinstall the game : /. is like the third time.
The Honda with the civic engine feels fun to use now. the grip is there and can out run alot of cars when fully uograded.
It sounds like they are doubling down on straight into the wall ProForceaka understeer only all the time which makes Americain muscle near imposible to drive... Like a few weeks ago I tried the S550 Mustang GT in GT7 and while it's fun to drive like a mustang should... It was also completely alien to me a mustang S550 owner in a way AC1 and Forza any of them including Horizen 5 are not. So I should try this update to see if the S550 Mustang is worse or better... Which I also recommend other people to do Drive cars you know/have driven IRL.
Me diga se ele ficou parecido com o Mustang real, é um dos meus carros favoritos!
Parabéns pelo bom gosto em carros, nossa eu amo aquele carro, fiz até uma corrida com ele em Nür.
the new toyota van has wheel hop if you upgrade its power train without doing any suspension upgrading... its the 1st vehicle ive encountered wheel hop since the games release... it's not placebo...
My escudo setup has this pulsing on my GT DD Pro when doing high speeds turn. Before it was just a strong solid ffb on the wheel. I tried tuning the ride height but it still does it.
It’s a great update. A very strong step forward. Let’s hope they continue to improve it as well as other areas of the game.
I felt like I noticed a bit of a difference. I didn’t know if it was my imagination.
G forces have changed. High speed doesn’t seem exaggerated as before but because of that. Lap times have changed dramatically. I’m still playing around but that’s what I notice so far.
PD should ask for physics help from real racing drivers and make them work with the software engineers at Polyphony that are responsible for the physics part of the game, and make the racing drivers test the new physics until it is close enough to real physics, with proper amount of grip. The cars should be controllable once you understand each cars specifics. Add more weather effects, heavy fog, snow, dust storm, etc...
Esse é pra min um dos melhores! O giulia
Bom trabalho!
~er, IDK man.. ..Drifting actually feels easier to me now., It's before that the tires felt more on or off
Now there's a more realistic transition to grip loss, but cars which don't drift well in reality still don't, so that feels punishing
gt7 is still worlds apart from gt sport though, felt both a shitton easier and more realistic than the ridiculously exaggerated snap oversteer (that thankfully was toned down a couple notches in this new update)
I had a lot of fun driving around in the Porsche 911 GT3, I can actually manage it without being on the edge all the time 😅
However, I was surprised about the change to my wheel, the Logitech G Pro. It felt as if someone had turned the feedback off. I went from 11 NM on the wheel and 6 out of 10 in the game to 9 out of 10, and I’m probably going to set it to 10.
It doesn’t feel bad by any stretch. Lots of details, but the low resistance is throwing me off a bit.
Has anyone tried it and found some good settings?
Had the same issue go to your Game setttings and put force feed back to 10. On your pro wheel play around with the dampener setting
@@alainpoitevin2954 awesome! Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Lowering the dampener should allow more of the NM to come through. I’ll give that a try. Thanks again 👍🏽
tcs 1 will not grip anymore. you have to select to 2.
O drift é mais real agora!
Seems a lot more consistent but I'm not a fan of the BoP changes and worse racing hard tyres
Yeah man the racing hard is horrible. The understeer is ridiculous and if you use the controller instead of the wheel it’s just bad.
Its not consistant, every lap you lose more time whats consistent about that?!!!
The update killed my Gr.3 Tunes At 800 - 810 PP Going 2 seconds slower now not acceptable like they did this last year. My go too cars was 97 supra & 458 but now they undriverble.
I hope they add the ability to adjust FOV and turn off the steering wheel.
I’m a casual when it comes to racing games and I hadn’t touched gt for years but when I saw gt 7 I was excited . This game has disappointed me, the physics were a bit jarring at first especially in the rain or the dirt but I took it as me not being skilled enough and being on a controller so I stopped playing. Decided to get a wheel and watched many videos while practicing and I improve however I find the physics even more so jarring now. Avid driver irl but I can’t enjoy it in gt anymore. I know I’m not the best and I would like to keep improving but it seems pointless when it doesn’t even really feel like driving anymore. Oh well guess I gotta become a millionaire!
Am I the only one who lost 2-3 seconds per lap on any track with this update? Because my ribals in Sport are as good as they were smh...
Nao sabia que eras português!
I only race road cars with no T/C this new update has ruined all my road cars
I can,t undersatand why my wheel feels so heavy
Its like every car weight 4000lbs sucks
Tbh it doesn’t feel that much different to me. Not complaining though love the game
Probably still have to rely on putting shitty tires to drift.
Legal usar um meme de uma atriz brasileira 😂😂😂
bruh 52s
thats the fastest i`ve ever seen a video by RC lol
Es português?
Sim
Can we talk about the SF19, it feels trash after the update, no grip in the corners anymore
Road cars handle better.
We should send improvement suggestions to Polyphony, I dont know their email, or maybe send a DM to Kaz 🙂I would suggest adding rear view mirror in other views, not only in cockpit view. Also, add qualifying and starting race from qualify position, improve AI speed and smartness, add a slider to adjust AI speed to find the sweet spot for great close racing. Add more championships (proper career mode), store track times for each car setup, and each car individually, not just overall fastest time. Add more tracks from previous GT games and add new ones in exotic locations (forest, snowy mountain pass, desert, coastline, volcanic island, etc...) and cities. Add more modern cars. Fix the lag in online mode. Add more licensed music from known artists, not just japanese ones. I know this is many suggestions. But there is so much potential for this game to be even better. Maybe they should add a story with characters and cutscenes, with voices. Maybe for GT 8 🙂 Add an arcade mode with grippier physics and NOS allowed in this mode. Make the whole game more lively, sometimes GT feels too clinical and serious, games are supposed to be fun. Maybe they could add voiced car descriptions like need for speed games ( nfs 3, nfs 4, hp2 ). Add a street track or highway with ability to add traffic for some street racing.
Go play nfs.
It definetly changed I am Racing 1 hour of Spa for months Now Like for months DAILY I was always in the Lead by 59 Seconds but Now the A I can handle Heavy Rain and the Fuel Lasts Longer and the Tires go down Slower. So the definetly changed the Rain Physics
Awesome now it just needs to release on PC. And then add the backlog of cars available in GT4 on used car dealerships and get rid of that STUPID menu system. Let people buy the cars they want.
It won't come out on pc
@@Chamogus69420 I bet you are fun at parties.
Just play AC on PC. No need for GT7.
@@RJ-cq8dd GT7 despite its flaws is a better game than AC... Unless there is a mod for content manager where you can buy and tune JDM monsters.
@@Heldermaior Ok i only really care about open wheelers, plenty of mods for that itch.
No it is crap. One can't drive certain style and then change overnight
Physics doesn't care.
Understeer and oversteer feel scripted in gt7
Everything is scripted in most Racing Simulators/Simcades. Infact most of them act like on and off switch for tyres and sound.
They Fixed nothing
They Made it worst
Who cares about drifting anyway? Dumb complaint imho. Go play a drifting game or AC if you want to drift, not a circuit racing game. The Drift trial mode is just a 5 minute afterthought by PD, I doubt they actually put much effort into it from GT5 on. The physics in the original AC are starting to show their age imo as well. The tire physics and feel in that game may as well be nonexistent and the FFB heavily disagrees with my T248 by not snapping it back in time to save a car past the limit. I literally have to guess and throw the wheel before it snaps back to still get a jerky and pendulum-esque save. How is that fun? My wheel snaps back at the correct time on every game but not AC? And yes I did a custom LUT file for my wheel and even messed around with the FFB for ages and it still sucks. Plus like I said, the FFB on my cheaper wheel for every game is fine except for AC.
AC gives me so little information even with my FFB maxed that I may as well be driving a non FFB wheel. By the time I feel the understeer it's too late, by the time I feel the oversteer it's too late. And I highly doubt it's my wheel because then why would no other game have an issue with it? I'd play GT7 anyday of the week over AC but maybe that's just my *specific* wheel disagreeing with the game's FFB. I'm not a fanboy either because I play ACC, RF2 and iRacing all on PC with my PS4 Pro for GT7. I've been a lifelong GT fan but I'm not a fanboy and I honestly don't understand why AC gets so much love still when it's arguably the worst sim I've ever played when it comes to wheel feel. I'd say the physics in AC are pretty solid but physics don't mean anything when I get none of the steering information I need to figure out how to drive the car. Anyone that just says "lol you have a trash wheel" is a clear AC fanboy because like I said, no other game has an issue with using my wheel correctly except AC. The only great things to me personally about AC are the mods for PC and that's it. AC doesn't do it for me because it's impossible for me to drive 10/10ths in that game, I really hope AC2 is better when it comes out.
If the physics and FFB are good you are easily able to drift, GT7 has massive problems with slip angles and that also effects racing, not to mention the FFB giving almost no information.
Sounds like an issue with your wheel or settings.
@@DriftNick Brand new wheel. I'd love to know what the issue with my settings are if that's the case because I've tried tweaking them over a whole year to no avail. And if it is an issue with my wheel then it's an issue with AC not being able to center it properly, because as I said no other games have that issue with my wheel. Latest Thrustmaster firmware and control panel. I know GT7 isn't perfect and has it's issues but for whatever reason it still feels 10X better on my wheel than AC does. I think AC is a pretty good game. I don't hate it, I just wish I knew why I wasn't allowed to play it as intended and everyone else seemingly has 0 issues with it.
I've played it on my friends G29 and while it still lacked a bit of feedback (prob the G29) it felt much better. I just don't understand why it hates my wheel *specifically* so much. It's pretty unfair and has caused me to pretty much just not play it at all. Rfactor 2 made the same year as AC also has 0 issues on my wheel and feels great.
The best way I can describe the way the steering feels on AC for corrections is just extremely vague, delayed snap back and means I'm literally just guessing where to throw the wheel. Takes all the fun out of it for me.
If you or anyone else has any idea what it could be then please let me know because I've tried almost everything to no avail. I don't want to dislike the game, I just can't force myself to like a game that doesn't work correctly on my wheel. And if it's just my wheel in general then I don't understand why no other games do the same thing like I said. I have over 600 mod cars in AC and really want to like the game but just can't since driving at 10/10ths just feels impossible to me compared to GT7, RF2, ACC etc.
Thanks for the polite reply!
Cool story bro
@@lowexpectations6632 I didn't ask.
Its your ingame setting not set up properly. Its literally the best driving sim with the best physics and ffb once the setting is calibrate d correctly.