My brother neglected his 04’ honda pilot where the timing belt snapped. Left it out sitting for over a year and I picked it up and put in a new belt and started up just fine. Going strong @ 270k miles.
Hey, today I bought Pilot ex 2005, 175k miles. Amazing driving experience :-) But there is no streaker saying when the timing belt changed last time. How can i know that. And should I change transmission fluid?
@@meraindia5367 I know this is 6 months since you asked, if in doubt, change the timing belt, when I do a prepurchase inspection on a timing belt vehicle, I put down it needs to be replaced if there is no solid proof of when it was changed, or if it is past 6-7 years depending on the make. There is a mileage and time limit on timing belts, I also do not trust aftermarket timing belts past 50K miles.
@@daverichards190 thanks Dave for responding, I didn't got it changed yet. BTW do you have any estimate how much it will cost for parts and labor? Yes I'll get water pump, tensioner and anything that goes in timing belt kit. One problem I noticed it make some noise when I drive small potholes or a badly paved street, but very very smooth on highway What is wrong in suspension, any guesses? Is there any suspension kit I should get it changed?
272K on our 2005 Pilot. Only gripe is lousy road noise isolation. Our 2023 Passport is light years ahead of the 2005 but it is a learning curve with the technology. The engine has been serviced with bulk conventional oil at 5K intervals with a Honda filter. Trans and transaxle uses Honda fluids as well as the power steering fluid. I had some Cooper tires installed after using Michelin's all these years and now have 62K on them. Brake fluid has been generic as well as stock pads and one set of stock rotors.
Bought a 2006 4wd pilot new. Drove it to 217k. Changed a few tires, regular oil changes, brake changes, replace the radiator once, changed timing belt twice, sold at 217k. Was still running strong!
1. Scott Kilmer is the man 2. Honda anything is going to be reliable as long as you take care of them. And lets take a minute to show some respect for how CLEAN this guy managed to keep this
You're so right about taking care of it. Me and son purchased a Toyota and Honda,they broke down less than a month because they were not taken care of. But we finally found a nice descent Honda
If you have 4 wheel drive, use Honda VTM-4 differential fluid. It is different that regular gear oil. For the time belt, I used aisin timing belt kit. It came with all the ideal pulley, timing belt tensioner, water pump, and timing. I'm still driving my Honda Pilot after 18 years.
Yeah, the Aisin TB kit is the one to get. Stay away from the Gates kit as the water pump is crap....ask me how I know. The WP in the Gates kit starting making a noise at start-up at the 40K mile mark and I finally ditched it for an Aisin WP which entirely solved the problem. The rest of the components in the Gates kit have been fine but the WP is a piece of crap. Aisin kit is the only one for me now.
@@13thvarebel16 20mpg isn’t bad at all in my eyes. The 2wd models have cylinder deactivation so you get better mileage but they have issues so I’d rather have the more reliable 4wd model that gets a little worse gas mileage. 🤷♂️
I have a 2005 pilot I put 277065 on it the thing runs great I live in the country the thing will not get stuck I driven in snow up to the top of the tire would not get stuck just a beast in the mud my advice is to get a good set of all terrain tires you will love it
2015 Honda Pilot Ex-L……best vehicle I ever owned…….changed spark plugs at 70k…..improved the gas mileage…..change the fluids…enjoy the cargo space, 3 rows and rock solid Honda dependability…❤
Use Aisin timing belts; they come in a kit with the rest of the stuff you should change at the same time. I think this is what Honda uses at the factory.
Just hit 300k miles on my 04 pilot. Original engine and transmission. All the stuff that goes out on all cars did on this one too. Nothing crazy. My favorite part of my pilot is all the buttons and windows still work. Owned mostly GM cars and all have made it to 250k or more but only half the buttons and windows work by then. Sold my 87 vw golf at 336k miles. Use to work on 2 Ford crown vic limos with 500k and 750k miles. I'm a mechanic and vouch for what this vid says about maintenance. The other half of how long a car last is how you drive it. Seen a lot of cars leave the shop and knew just because of the driver it would be back soon for something else broken.
I just made a 500 mile trip over Hwy 12 White Pass in Washington in my 160K. 07 Pilot owned it since new, done all the maintenance myself, timing belt, water pump ,brakes, struts, radiator, hoses , plugs , transmission, it got 24.8 miles per gallon on this trip. I am a long time Chevy Hot Rodder , but can’t beat the Honda Pilot for daily driver and road trip vehicle.
I've had a 2003 Honda Pilot for 10yrs and its the best car I've ever had. Bought it from a coworker with 135,000mi for 4 grand. I now have 212,000 and it still runs perfect. Only problem is rust is going to do it in. Not the cars fault but all the brine they use in SE Pennsylvania. It needs $1500 in rust repair to pass inspection and I spent the same to repair a rusted out rear subframe mount a few years ago. Check for rust before buying one of these if you're in a state that salts the roads.
Great video showcasing your love for a great Pilot. My '05 and I have been following this guidance for years now, and still looks mint. 204000 miles and counting.
It's just barely broke in. Our 2006 has 325,1xx miles at this time. Original engine & transmission. May die tomorrow, but if it did no tears shed cause it has been absolutely fantastic since bought used in 2011 w 120k on it. Service service service service! You are 100% spot on with keeping up the services! And as you said dont forget the timing belt when needed! Now, one thing I will kinda disagree with you on is oil. This one had always had Castrol GTX with its 1st owner and up until about 250k. And now Castrol Edge the last 75k miles. The mileage speaks for itself.
I just bought a 2013 Pilot at Carmax with only 44k miles on it. Yes 44k , not 144 or 244. It's like brand new. So far I love it. My mom has a 2003 Pilot with 182,000 miles and it runs very smooth.
We love our 04' Pilot with 285K and still going strong. I would agree with the fluid statement for the transmission and power steering, but the brake fluid shouldn't have to be Honda IMO. Great video, I really enjoy seeing others boasting about their Pilots.
Just got an 04 6 months ago 2300 bucks 142k miles excellent vehicle put on 10k no issues typical Honda quality ! I plan to use it for camping and traveling west coast .
@@BROWNUNITY yes it still runs, though I have a charging system issue going on right now. We’ve only put on another few thousand miles in the past several months so it’s up to around 288k as it’s not our daily driver. We mostly use it to haul stuff around, like our very large dog.
I and many other first generation Pilot owners on the Piloteers website use Valvoline's MaxLife ATF. I've been using it for nearly 130K miles on my '05 Pilot(now has 227K) and I've had zero issues with it. It's also a synthetic which Honda's ATF is not. That being said, I wouldn't use anything besides MaxLife and Honda's ATF.
@@hondaphan4172I have a ‘16 Honda Civic with the CVT transmission. I have used the Valvoline Max Life and Castrol Transmax CVT fluids, and they both worked fine for my transmission. When it came time to change out the trans fluid again, I went and used the Honda HCF-2 fluid. I’m thinking if you use the closest compatible fluid to the OEM’s, you shouldn’t have a problem.
Have an 2005 Pilot bought used in 2012 with 15,000 miles. Timing belt done around 88,000. Up to 121,000 now. Runs great. Paid off. Planning to run it until it stops or I stop whichever comes first 😆
Thanks for the video! Makes a lot of sense. I pretty much done the same thing with a 2011 Honda pilot, same color!. I love the car gave it to my son and I'm now considering the maintenance to go from 100,000 miles to 200,000 miles! Again appreciate taking the time to make the video.
Just got a 2007 as well, and honestly I couldn't ask for a better car. In the 4 weeks since I've owned it I've replaced the AC blower transistor for the back air conditioner, swapped out the dash for a more modern touch screen so I can connect to Apple Carplay, and replaced all the speakers with JBLs. Now that the inside is done I'm gonna go into the bottom and clean all the rust and give it a good undercoating with fluid film. Excited to really learn how to fix and maintain this vehicle
@@Paul-go6hs the model is the Boss BCPA10RC. I like it a lot but I do have my gripes. Pro is that its perfect for the Pilot since it doesn’t block the air conditioner and I can adjust the screen orientation. It’s also really sleek, I get complimented by almost anyone that first comes into my car. It feels like a premium product. Con is that as someone who is very picky about audio quality I can’t seem to get a good EQ setting. This is purely my own opinion, but I thought the OEM Dash sounded better. However you can tweak it to get something useable, but regardless most people aren’t nitpicky about car audio as long as somethings bumping. Case in point, if you can afford it it’s a good purchase. If not there are cheaper options, I just didn’t want to deal with buying an unknown brand and having to replace it again down the line
the fact you had to clean all the rust says you need to talk to your government about using salt instead of sand/alternate melting snow mix., More expensive for the gov, but no rust. Look at Colorado's cars compared to salty Utah.
My 2003 Pilot, brought it brand new in Sept 2002, now has 430,000 miles on it. Timing belt change every 105,00. Only issue was the transmission went at 60,000 (that first generation problem). Dealership changed it for free. And I will only put Michelins on it!
I also have a 2003 with 220k miles and still running great! I just drove it on a trip to south Florida for over 2500 miles with no issues. I have never had any transmission problems so I was surprised to hear that yours went out at 60k miles. It would be fantastic to get over 400k miles like yours. My driver seat is shredded and shot. I should get it redone.
This video was super informative, thx for posting! Bought an 06 Pilot 2 years back and am going over it since it wasn't maintained well by the previous owner(s). Still has been a reliable daily driver since the day I bought it, plan to keep it as long as possible!
My 2004 Pilot started to get a transmission shudder at about 180,000. After reading multiple articles on what could be the cause, I read that it might be a good idea to change transmission fluid before taking it in for repair. I drained/refilled/drove it 3 times and the shudder completely disappeared. Definitely ONLY use Honda fluids! Mobil-1 Synthetic is a very good choice for motor oil. I've changed the oil every 5,000 miles and have over 202,000 miles and the engine is still going strong. Burns NO oil. Other than the transmission shudder, have had only a few very minor issues. Had to replace the two passenger side window regulators and seatbelt. The Fuel-Pump Relay failed and the Idle-Air-Control-Valve got a little wonky, causing intermittent low-idle/stalling situations. Other than these very minor repairs that I fixed myself, I have had no other issues. Only two recalls, both being Air-Bag replacements. I hope my next one will be as reliable as this one has been.
When changing the transmission fluid be sure to change the external canister filter (looks like a fuel filter) hiding under all the wiring harness attachments on top of the transmission. A fella I know couldn't get Honda to replace it. "Oh we don't change those its a lifetime filter". Then why is it external and available to buy??? Brand of brake fluid does not matter (honda or otherwise) as that is a safety item it has to be able use the standardized DOT3 fluid available at any auto store without issue. I always upgrade my brake fluid to 4 regardless as it has a higher heat range. Drive-line fluids I would stick with Honda if possible. Most importantly is changing the fluids on time or a little early never hurts.
2004 AWD model bought with 222k miles and currently has 230k miles. Transmission fluid wasn't changed often enough by previous owners and isn't working properly but it's not too bad. After a few changes it got better. Rear differential fluid was the same story. Besides the poor maintenance and rusty rear frame area it's a good vehicle. I wouldn't own it but my wife likes it. I'll stick with my 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan. The LT1 engine has plenty of power and it's fun to drive quickly for a big car
My baby is 18 years old. Bought shiny & new in 2006. She’s been stellar- at 257k. Rebuilt tranny, typical maintenance otherwise. I just replaced shocks (I know!)… serpentine, timing, and today I replaced the intake hose On My own! She’s my ride or die. Honda got me for ever…. Love them and Toyotas.
I just bought a 2010 Pilot with AWD and tow package with 237K and this thing runs like a sewing machine. Even at those miles it's still as tight as a BMW. No noises, wobbles or pulling left/right. Amazing a car can be put together this well and will keep going just with fluid maintenance. Highly recommend
My brother picked up a 2004 Pilot with 298K miles from his neighbor for $500. He was moving out of state and it had issues. My brother gave me $700 and I did everything except suspension which was too. All fluids, plugs, clean coils, filters, vtm fluid and sensor, power steering belt and serpentine belt, repaired the power seat, AC blower, power steering pump and line, brakes, new FOB, new keys, plus misc things. As far as fluids. I used Honda for PS and transmission. I used Zerex for Honda. VT/M from Honda. It needa the oil Pan sealed it's leaking, but will wait till spring, I am not doing it in 40 ° or less garage 😂. I am impressed with it. Oh, timing chain is good, it has been replaced twice over the 298K miles and I took the cover off and checked it anyway, looks new
I have an 2006 Pilot that I bought with over 181k miles on it. There was no history of the timing belt ever being replaced therefore had a local shop do the complete timing belt job for $500. I’m aware they didn’t use Honda OEM or Aisin parts. I’ll just change it before it hits 240k miles with an OEM or Aisin. Hopefully it makes it that far.
I and my 5 friends were nearly in a head on accident with a tractor trailer last year in 2007, swerved off the road, down an embankment, and through the brush. Turned on 4wd and came back up on the road, not a scratch. Vehicle was so heavy and stable throughout that accident scenario and I just bought another I was so impressed.
@@checkitout2468 Yes the tractor trailer hit a disabled flat bed tractor trailer on his side of the road on a two lane road and came straight at us. After we got back up on the road saw the tractor trailer with its fuel tank busted, diesel everywhere and jackknifed in our lane. It was rather miraculous. The 2007 Pilot is at my second home. We'll keep it going forever, really saved us. We drove about a mile up the road and all gotta out at a restaurant parking lot and were jumping around telling people we all almost died.
That's a crazy story I hit a hog airbag deployed front bumber messed up but other then that it ran fine no major problems besides airbag the second gen pilots are the best built in my opinion the new ones look like a mini van might get a Honda passport next
I definitely would stand behind a Pilots reliability as well. Bought mine, 2008 SE 2WD, about 4 years ago in High school with 124k miles. Im at 188k miles now and have done only scheduled maintenance at the dealer. No issues what so ever, not even a check engine light. I would certainly buy this car again if I had to and plan on driving it until the wheels fall off
@@imtheguy1565 I paid $9500 for mine. Crazy to see where the used car market is at it, Ive been entertaining offers just because this is most ill ever get back for it. At 205k miles strong currently, only thing thats come up since my last post was my SRS light
@@MustangbluePSN i just just purchased mine for 6500 . it’s a 2010 and after reading all the comments I just feel like I did such a good deal and won’t feel bad about throwing a solid thousand to leave it flawless
Its about 18 mile for city and about 23 to 24 mile on highways.. Keep up on all maintenance and you'll be good. I bought Honda timing belt and it snap a year in half later while driving locally.. It caused me $3500 to get an engine swapped..
OWNED two EX pilots. 07 and 08. Also a 2012 mdx which is about same for base of engine. 07 had starter die in driveway (made for easy repair, no tow). The 08 suffered alternator getting fried (real bad ground wire frayed). My fault for not changing out wire. But good news still drove if I wanted to keep recharging battery by battery charger. All three had annoying water leak from roof area. Drain hoses were not clogged. Other then that, all were over 200k miles before selling. MUST USE HONDA FLUIDS and quality parts when important mechanical components. Go cheap and your risking trouble.
I'm looking at a 2008 Honda Pilot soon with 200,000 miles awd. Listening for tips. So that's why I'm here. Also, considering a 2004 Mazda Tribute awd 6 cyl same mileage.
I also wanted to add that my pilot has had new brakes, new tires and wheels, new engine piston head, valves were adjusted and bent back straight after my brother drove it home one night it started acting up on him but anyhow it was about a $700-800 job to get the engine and the car running again and that happened around 197,000 miles and we bought the car at 196,000 miles for $3200. And the car didn’t ever overheat or anything and I bought my pilot from my mechanic and mine is the top of the line with the back up camera and navigation system so I was passionate and I was looking forward to see it get fixed up and running again and now about 25-30,000 miles later into it it’s doing well and my timing belt was done at 194,000 miles and I also just recently had a new AC compressor and drive belt pulley Installed on it now so now it should only need oil changes and filters from now through the rest of its life hopefully
I've got an 07 pilot and the way it performs (in all conditons) is just phenomenal. I'm a single guy, I drive SUVs because I'm a big lanky dude with back/hip problems. Even without needing the third row I love my pilot in a way that almost makes me forget the grand cherokees I owned before.
With the 3 quart tranny fluid swap you also NEED to change the filter! The friction material from your tranny's clutch plates end up in your filter.. Once your filter becomes clogged the pressure and flow will be greatly reduced, which is how and when these transmission fails.
I have the same vehicle and have 185, 796 miles. I would agree with you on Honda Fluids except for the Brake Fluid. I have used generic fluid for the past 14 years and have never had a problem. I do change the brake fluid every 2-3 years and live in a dry climate. OEM parts from Honda are the way to go except for brake pads and rotors. I have not had any issues using quality rotors and pads from NAPA. I also wish I could purchase this vehicle again.
I have a 2007 Pilot myself (a little different color blue) and I passed it down to my 18 year old son. He couldn't be happier with it. I have done all of the 100K maintenance (plugs, coil packs, timing belt, etc....) so we are in pretty good shape. Has 170K miles on it now. Living in Florida the whole time, the paint job has suffered a bit but that doesn't impact its functionality. I did have to have a new headliner put in once - it was falling down and the inside looked like a hearse or a coffin. I changed out the power steering pump myself, along with new headlight assemblies. I had a new steering rack put in and some control arms, etc... and it steers a bit harder than it initially did - probably due to inferior aftermarket parts. But all in all, I agree that it is a great vehicle and we are getting my money's worth. Thanks for sharing.
Great job man. Boy it wasn’t cheap new in 07 though Mine ? Gen2 EXL 2014. Bought it in 2017 with 42,000 miles on it. I’ve got 160 on it now. Yep I do all my own maintenance except the timing belt and water pump. Always OEM fluids. I love this car. OK, I’ll say it… Best car I ever owned. But I don’t want a new one. 😮
2015 EX-L purchased new in 2014, currently has 70k miles . Honda replaced a blown engine at 15k. Had issues with fouled spark plugs and piston rings at just 55k, Honda covered the cost of repair. Researched the issue, decided to install the VCM tuner to prevent a future piston failure. Besides cost of tuner & regular maintenance, I’ve spent $0 out of pocket for repairs. By far the best vehicle I’ve ever owned!
Our CRVs have chains. One has 275k miles on it and the other 235k miles on it. No timing belts to worry about on those. We just bought a 2018 Pilot. Now I need to find out if they have since changed to a timing chain.
Thanks! My neighbor has a 2005 with about 135K miles they're wanting to sell. I've been reading a lot of good things. Think I'll run it to my mechanic and have him give it a look over.
Yes, if it's an engine timing component then it must be OEM. Any timing component, not just the belt. IMO. It's common for independent garages to use after market timing belt kits because they compete on price and the kits are much cheaper and quality is a wild card. Also independent garages tend to replace all the pulleys, water pump, tensioner and belt. But if you read the service manual, that's not necessary. It simply to inspect and replace "of necessary" and describes what to inspect. Only the belt has a defined service interrval. The tensioner don't seem to last, so I believe it's common to always replace that too. There are dealers, however, who won't replace the water pump and pulleys if they look good. Finally, if an independent garage does replace all those other components simply because they were in the kit then the parts that they put in may we'll be lower quality, and have a lesser service life, than the remaining life of the original parts that were removed.
Have 2004 Pilot with 275000 miles. Best vehicle I've ever owned (original owner). Had to baby the transmission a little over the years but otherwise just routine maintenance.
I have a 05 Pilot awd with 228k miles, love it. Very reliable, I use Honda power steering and Max Life ATF, any 5w20 synthetic oil is good. Only complaints are head liner sag, oil leaks, 17mpg.
Damn...I've seen a handful with a lil over 300k but 390k?! Wow. You must not live in the rust belt, cuz here most Pilots don't make it past 200-230k due to the infamous rear frame rot.
I have an 04 Pilot i purchased new and still have today 103,000 miles on it and did the timing belt at 95k so far so good great truck, now i haven’t done as much maintenance as people do, just oil changes but that’s about it!
I bought a 2008 Pilot (2 wheel drive) 3 years ago ($ 5,000)...GREAT CAR--not great on gas, but lots of power, lots of room and drives exceptional and comfortable..I love this car..I have a 2019 CRV and it is good, but I love the older Pilot.I put new Uniroyal tires on it--WOW really nice..
Just bought a 2004 Pilot from the local auction. Mechanically it was a little rough, the timing belt broke shortly after I drove it home. Had to rebuild the heads. Other than that it's a solid runner with only 180K on it. I hope to have it for a few more years or until something major like the transmission causes me to ditch it. For the price I couldn't pass it up. It's a Honda!
Agree with the timing belt thing. Dont cheap out on it. I have a 2014 Odyssey- pretty much same as Pilot. When it came time for the timing belt, I took it to Honda for all OEM parts. Yes I paid a lot more than a regular shop but wanted that Honda service/ parts for peace of mind.
I have the same Honda pilot 100k miles had a very reputable foreign car mechanic shop change all fluids and the timing belt also was recommended to change water pump at that time new radiator ,new brakes ,tires and it drives like a new car the pilot is a great car
Spot on critique! Designing an interference engine (3.5L v-6) with a cheaper belt (rubber band) to keep valves and pistons in sync is engineering malpractice. Hydraulic tensioner failure 20k miles after replacement cost us roughly $6k; Honda told us to FOAD. Maybe
Honda four-cylinder’s are timing chain. But they continue to make the six cylinders with belts and interference. I’d say go with toyota but I’m sure you’ve heard they’re having some transmission and engine problems in their Tacoma‘s and tundras. Their smaller engines are still very reliable from what I understand.
I used Honda fluid on my motor. My transmission the rear end because it was all wheel drive. The only mistake I made was. I changed the coolant and I didn’t use Honda, but the bottle that he came in said it meets Honda OEM I was in a rush so I put it in. I keep my eye on it. I never see rust it’s always a nice blue color so it is what it is on that one. PS don’t want to be off-topic but mine is a CRVEXL just turn 100,000 miles this year. It’s a 2013.
That's not entirely true about the ATF as many of us on the Piloteers website swear by Valvoline's MaxLife ATF in our fist generation Pilots. I've been using it for nearly 130K miles in my '05 and I've had zero issues with it. It's also a synthetic which Honda's ATF is not. Brake fluid is brake fluid so you don't have to stick with Honda's fluid in that case. I used to always use Honda's coolant/antifreeze until four or five years ago when I switched over to an aftermarket brand which is nearly identical. I have 227K miles on my '05 Pilot and nearly 300K on my '98 CRV which I drove off the dealer's lot 25 years ago.
Nice! Wax the sun, prone areas, make sure the timing belt’s been changed, change that oil on a regular basis and check the transmission fluid. Maybe you can get another hundred thousand out of it.
Timing belt change interval is recommended at 60k miles in cold weather climates or if you tow a lot. 105k normal timing belt interval. I would split the difference and get it done around 80k in normal driving.
I own a 2011 pilot and purchased it with 86k miles and I had the timing belt and related items installed at my Honda dealership and I have 103k miles with no issues.. just oil changes. I will be swapping out the battery soon as winter is on its way. The Pilot has become my daily driver and I have a 2020 SUV which I bought new so that tells me how great the 2011 pilot is….
You need to bypass the VCM system immediately to avoid serious engine issues/catalytic converter issues due to oil getting into the combustion chamber/exhaust system
@A Gravy I joined the Piloteers group and the shills there were telling me the same thing. There may be a few that need a VCM disabler put on, but in most cases quality oils, gas, and regular service are all that is needed.
At 2:10 “you need to use Honda fluids.” I agree and disagree. For ATF I’ve used Valvoline Max (drain and fill) for years and it’s been fine. I do that every other oil change, or every 15,000 miles. Coolant, yes, that should be genuine Honda. Same with power steering fluid, that should be Honda genuine. But oil, ATF, and brake fluid, don’t need to be genuine Honda. Certainly to be safe you should use Honda genuine, but on an old vehicle like this where I’m shooting for a high score on affordability, I’ll take my chances on non-genuine fluid. Regarding timing belt, I think you’re right that it should be genuine, although I have an Aisin currently in mine (installed at 130k, currently at 205k) and it’s been G2G. But do NOT push it with timing belts on this vehicle, replace when recommended by manufacturer. Only thing I don’t see mentioned in this video is valve adjustment - that should also be done according to manual. Great video man thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Our 06 Pilot is one of the best purchases we've ever had. We just did 2 separate two-thousand mile trips in it with no issues ,except I didn't put enough coolant in it for one trip. I'll do another trip at the drop of a hat.
So true on the fluids, and maintenance, I'm a SuperTech oil fan, everything else is genuine Honda, no skimping there. These Pilots are really easy to work on, so there should be no excuses. And that timing belt, why Honda WHY!?! Folks, if you do it yourself, use the Honda kit, with the water pump, plenty of Honda parts stores on the internet that you can purchase at a nice discount vs the local dealer. Don't try to save a few bucks, get the real stuff.
Great comment, thank you. I can’t believe honda still uses belts on their six cylinder engines. And they’re interference engines… come on Honda! Makes me wanna move over to toyota…
Since 2006, all Honda 4cyls have chains, and only their V6s are belt-driven. The last belt-driven Honda 4cyl was the 2005 Civic. Honda's new 10AT and CVTs are also more reliable than their older CVTs and 5ATs and 9ATs
own my 06 since 2011, I'm the 2nd owner. Im on 210k miles it is a great vehicle. but when you get closer 200k i had to replace a list of items but recently my biggest money part that i could not replace myself was the rear main seal.
07 Honda Odyssey driver with 210,000 miles on it. Have been really careful on changing fluids. Have not really gotten Honda branded stuff other than transmission fluid. Have had zero problems. Very solid yet. As matter of fact taking it on 2 12 hour road trips over the next 3 months. Fully expect to get another 100,000 miles out of it. No plans to sell as it’s not worth much anymore anyway!
That’s a lot of miles! Nice job. What kind of transmission problems were you having? Did you use honda‘s transmission fluid when you changed it? The three fluids that I strongly recommend people stick with Honda or the transmission fluid, the power, steering fluid, and the coolant. Anyway, sounds like you’re doing a good job.
@@checkitout2468 Actually no transmission problems. I had the Honda dealer change the transmission fluid every 40,000 miles so it was Honda fluid. All the other fluids have been compatible fluids but not necessarily Honda branded. Have changed the timing belt twice. I never considered doing myself as the O.P. did as above my comfort level. Have done the brakes a few times and shocks and suspension replacements have been done as the old ones wore out. Did lose the rear a/c & heating as the lines rusted out(am in the snow belt) and decided not to replace) I have 7 vehicles. Honda, Ford(2), Dodge, Toyota(2), Chevy. The Honda is the only one I bought new. On a cost per mile basis the Honda has been the cheapest one at about 19 cents per mile. Surprise #2 is the Dodge at 23 cents per mile and Toyota is #3 at 28 cents per mile. That would include original purchase price and all other non fuel related expenses divided by personal miles driven.
@@checkitout2468 Actually I haven't had any transmission problems. I changed the transmission fluid every 40,000 miles at the dealer we bought it from so it was Honda fluid. All the other fluids were changed regularly and it was all compatible, but not necessarily Honda Fluid. I've had the Timing belt changed twice and the dealer did that as well. I've gotten much more handy, but changing one of those was outside of my comfort zone and based on the OP's experience think it was a wise decision. Other than that the only other repairs have been "normal stuff" such as brakes and suspension components as they've worn out. The rear ac/heater no longer works because those lines rusted out(we live in the snow belt), but passengers only really notice on very hot or cold days. I own 7 vehicles(2 Fords, 2 Toyotas, 1 Dodge, 1 Chevy, and the Honda. The Honda is the only one I bought new. When I figure out the cost of owners ship(purchase price + all repairs and mainenance other than fuel/miles driven) the Honda has been the cheapest at about 19 cents per mile. Second surprisingly has been the Dodge at 23 cents per mile. The old Toyota is at 28 cents. Our newer Toyota is too recent a purchase to mess with yet.
As to the timing belt, you should also change the water pump and the tensioner and idler pulley at the same time, only use Honda parts or the OEM which is Aisin, you can get an entire timing kit that has the OEM mfg parts. I just had to replace a water pump on a 2007 Pilot with about 50K on it since the timing belt replacement, they used a Honda belt, but went cheap on the rest of the parts. I do lots of timing belts on Asian makes, I only use the Aisin timing kits with WP's and tensioners.
Coolant doesn’t really matter, you need to use Honda coolant and no such thing is Honda coolant. It’s just name they put on when you buy their products. You need to buy what’s its call the Asian coolant for Japanese cars, long as it says Asian cuz the mix is different .
Much respect to you sir. I have an 06 Pilot, 170 K. Dang, about the timing belt replacements my mechanic used after market ones. Didn't think to use OEM fluids and parts.
Motor oil, power steering fluid, and coolant aren’t required to use Honda fluids, long as you buy the good brand is good. But for transmission and break fluid I would by Honda fluid.
I changed my timing belt on my 2011 Pilot at 117K at the dealer...went a little long. Just had the second one changed at the dealer, im at 240k with no issues.
Buy new, then drive it straight to the best undercoating shop you can find. Then get it recoated EVERY year. My 08 Ridgeline is in perfect running order, but it rusted out all over, frame doors, body panels, fenders, etc.
I have an 06 Pilot EXL 4WD that I bought at 26k miles, now at 298k. You DON'T have to use Honda branded fluids. I've been Castrol Transmax in the transmission for the last 150k with no problems, Triax for power steering, PEAK OET for coolant, Triax DTF-1 in the transfer case and Castrol Syntrax in the differential. No ill effects, and LOTS of money saved. I drive on average 90-120 miles a day. On the timing side, I use OEM Honda idlers, tensioner and water pump, but I use a Gates kevlar timing belt. It's a lot stronger and longer wearing than the oem honda part
Hi, great video. I agree about what you said about the Honda's. I have a 2021 Pilot myself and it is great (especially the AWD system is very capable). Did you ever get that interference on the engine fixed??? And, how much did that cost? My opinion is that Honda should go to timing chains and also ROLLER LIFTERS ....... not the solid lifters that are out dated.
He said he replaced his engine, chains have issues to, the chain may not break but the guides are made from teflon or similar and will wear out. Belts are cheaper and easier to maintain. Ask a bmw or audi owner if they replaced theor timing chain, thousands of dollars.
@@splice247 Another thing is that those Honda lifters have to be manually adjusted every now and then. It's best to get something with a non-interference engine. Even if the timing belt breaks, it won't hurt anything.
Only honda V6 have the timing belt. The 4cyl have had timing chains since early 2000s. Current 1.5t amd 2.0L engines have chains. Chains also have issues, mainly wearing out the guides, very difficult and costly to replace the guides.
My brother neglected his 04’ honda pilot where the timing belt snapped. Left it out sitting for over a year and I picked it up and put in a new belt and started up just fine. Going strong @ 270k miles.
Nice 👍
Hey, today I bought Pilot ex 2005, 175k miles.
Amazing driving experience :-)
But there is no streaker saying when the timing belt changed last time. How can i know that.
And should I change transmission fluid?
@@meraindia5367 I know this is 6 months since you asked, if in doubt, change the timing belt, when I do a prepurchase inspection on a timing belt vehicle, I put down it needs to be replaced if there is no solid proof of when it was changed, or if it is past 6-7 years depending on the make. There is a mileage and time limit on timing belts, I also do not trust aftermarket timing belts past 50K miles.
@@daverichards190 thanks Dave for responding, I didn't got it changed yet.
BTW do you have any estimate how much it will cost for parts and labor?
Yes I'll get water pump, tensioner and anything that goes in timing belt kit.
One problem I noticed it make some noise when I drive small potholes or a badly paved street, but very very smooth on highway
What is wrong in suspension, any guesses?
Is there any suspension kit I should get it changed?
Did it damage your engine?
I own a 2005 pilot with now 386.000 drove to Florida from Boston and back and ran like a champ!
272K on our 2005 Pilot. Only gripe is lousy road noise isolation. Our 2023 Passport is light years ahead of the 2005 but it is a learning curve with the technology. The engine has been serviced with bulk conventional oil at 5K intervals with a Honda filter. Trans and transaxle uses Honda fluids as well as the power steering fluid. I had some Cooper tires installed after using Michelin's all these years and now have 62K on them. Brake fluid has been generic as well as stock pads and one set of stock rotors.
Bought a 2006 4wd pilot new. Drove it to 217k. Changed a few tires, regular oil changes, brake changes, replace the radiator once, changed timing belt twice, sold at 217k. Was still running strong!
1. Scott Kilmer is the man 2. Honda anything is going to be reliable as long as you take care of them. And lets take a minute to show some respect for how CLEAN this guy managed to keep this
YEAHA!!! Favorite comment ever! 👍
Only real issue with 1st generation Pilots is the notorious rear frame rot...it has killed tons of Pilots off
You're so right about taking care of it. Me and son purchased a Toyota and Honda,they broke down less than a month because they were not taken care of. But we finally found a nice descent Honda
@ttlola5515" honda anything" will be reliable.. never owned a honda 4stroke motocross bike i see, mainly from 04 to 08
If you have 4 wheel drive, use Honda VTM-4 differential fluid. It is different that regular gear oil.
For the time belt, I used aisin timing belt kit. It came with all the ideal pulley, timing belt tensioner, water pump, and timing.
I'm still driving my Honda Pilot after 18 years.
That is awesome.
Asin makes the factory, timing belt kits
Yeah, the Aisin TB kit is the one to get. Stay away from the Gates kit as the water pump is crap....ask me how I know. The WP in the Gates kit starting making a noise at start-up at the 40K mile mark and I finally ditched it for an Aisin WP which entirely solved the problem. The rest of the components in the Gates kit have been fine but the WP is a piece of crap. Aisin kit is the only one for me now.
Honda belt w interference eng has Been a big mistake
Yep. Adjust the valves also. Mine were tight at 140K.
So you like the pilot? But complain about mpg? 20 mpg is great in a heavy suv like this one.
It’s more like a cuv than an suv
Idk where he got 20, everywhere says 15-16 mph
Bruh, my Honda Element gets about 17 MPG and that’s with 300K and a blown head gasket.
I was thinking the same thing; that 20 mpg ain't that bad...especially if it's a 4WD.
@@13thvarebel16 20mpg isn’t bad at all in my eyes. The 2wd models have cylinder deactivation so you get better mileage but they have issues so I’d rather have the more reliable 4wd model that gets a little worse gas mileage. 🤷♂️
I have a 2005 pilot I put 277065 on it the thing runs great I live in the country the thing will not get stuck I driven in snow up to the top of the tire would not get stuck just a beast in the mud my advice is to get a good set of all terrain tires you will love it
2015 Honda Pilot Ex-L……best vehicle I ever owned…….changed spark plugs at 70k…..improved the gas mileage…..change the fluids…enjoy the cargo space, 3 rows and rock solid Honda dependability…❤
I recently bought a 2007 Pilot with 166K miles for $7,500. I really love it. I'm looking forward to more of your videos! Peace be with you and yours.
How’s it holding up? Thinking of buying one but the gas consumption is what makes me think differently about it.
Use Aisin timing belts; they come in a kit with the rest of the stuff you should change at the same time. I think this is what Honda uses at the factory.
Just hit 300k miles on my 04 pilot. Original engine and transmission. All the stuff that goes out on all cars did on this one too. Nothing crazy. My favorite part of my pilot is all the buttons and windows still work. Owned mostly GM cars and all have made it to 250k or more but only half the buttons and windows work by then. Sold my 87 vw golf at 336k miles. Use to work on 2 Ford crown vic limos with 500k and 750k miles. I'm a mechanic and vouch for what this vid says about maintenance. The other half of how long a car last is how you drive it. Seen a lot of cars leave the shop and knew just because of the driver it would be back soon for something else broken.
I just made a 500 mile trip over Hwy 12 White Pass in Washington in my 160K. 07 Pilot owned it since new, done all the maintenance myself, timing belt, water pump ,brakes, struts, radiator, hoses , plugs , transmission, it got 24.8 miles per gallon on this trip. I am a long time Chevy Hot Rodder , but can’t beat the Honda Pilot for daily driver and road trip vehicle.
Yup. With regular maintenance the Pilot is an awesome vehicle.
Did you have to replace tge Engine?@checkitout2468
I've had a 2003 Honda Pilot for 10yrs and its the best car I've ever had. Bought it from a coworker with 135,000mi for 4 grand. I now have 212,000 and it still runs perfect. Only problem is rust is going to do it in. Not the cars fault but all the brine they use in SE Pennsylvania. It needs $1500 in rust repair to pass inspection and I spent the same to repair a rusted out rear subframe mount a few years ago. Check for rust before buying one of these if you're in a state that salts the roads.
Great video showcasing your love for a great Pilot. My '05 and I have been following this guidance for years now, and still looks mint. 204000 miles and counting.
I’m checking one out with 127k
We have a 05 260k runs great ac cold heat hot looking at this 07 today with 173k
It's just barely broke in.
Our 2006 has 325,1xx miles at this time. Original engine & transmission. May die tomorrow, but if it did no tears shed cause it has been absolutely fantastic since bought used in 2011 w 120k on it.
Service service service service! You are 100% spot on with keeping up the services! And as you said dont forget the timing belt when needed!
Now, one thing I will kinda disagree with you on is oil. This one had always had Castrol GTX with its 1st owner and up until about 250k. And now Castrol Edge the last 75k miles. The mileage speaks for itself.
You’re welcome, thank you for the kind comment 👍
I have a 08 pilot; 191k miles goes limp mode with p2647 and p0420 codes. The car won't rev over 3500. any suggestions?
I just bought a 2013 Pilot at Carmax with only 44k miles on it. Yes 44k , not 144 or 244. It's like brand new. So far I love it. My mom has a 2003 Pilot with 182,000 miles and it runs very smooth.
How much did you pay?
@@junior17medval About $20,000
We love our 04' Pilot with 285K and still going strong. I would agree with the fluid statement for the transmission and power steering, but the brake fluid shouldn't have to be Honda IMO. Great video, I really enjoy seeing others boasting about their Pilots.
Just got an 04 6 months ago 2300 bucks 142k miles excellent vehicle put on 10k no issues typical Honda quality ! I plan to use it for camping and traveling west coast .
How many miles do you have now is your car still running
@@BROWNUNITY yes it still runs, though I have a charging system issue going on right now. We’ve only put on another few thousand miles in the past several months so it’s up to around 288k as it’s not our daily driver. We mostly use it to haul stuff around, like our very large dog.
I and many other first generation Pilot owners on the Piloteers website use Valvoline's MaxLife ATF. I've been using it for nearly 130K miles on my '05 Pilot(now has 227K) and I've had zero issues with it. It's also a synthetic which Honda's ATF is not. That being said, I wouldn't use anything besides MaxLife and Honda's ATF.
@@hondaphan4172I have a ‘16 Honda Civic with the CVT transmission. I have used the Valvoline Max Life and Castrol Transmax CVT fluids, and they both worked fine for my transmission. When it came time to change out the trans fluid again, I went and used the Honda HCF-2 fluid. I’m thinking if you use the closest compatible fluid to the OEM’s, you shouldn’t have a problem.
Have an 2005 Pilot bought used in 2012 with 15,000 miles. Timing belt done around 88,000. Up to 121,000 now. Runs great. Paid off. Planning to run it until it stops or I stop whichever comes first 😆
Thanks for the video! Makes a lot of sense. I pretty much done the same thing with a 2011 Honda pilot, same color!. I love the car gave it to my son and I'm now considering the maintenance to go from 100,000 miles to 200,000 miles! Again appreciate taking the time to make the video.
You’re welcome, thank you for the kind comment 👍
Just got a 2007 as well, and honestly I couldn't ask for a better car. In the 4 weeks since I've owned it I've replaced the AC blower transistor for the back air conditioner, swapped out the dash for a more modern touch screen so I can connect to Apple Carplay, and replaced all the speakers with JBLs. Now that the inside is done I'm gonna go into the bottom and clean all the rust and give it a good undercoating with fluid film. Excited to really learn how to fix and maintain this vehicle
Which Apple Car system did you get for your Pilot?
Which dash did you switched to?
@@Paul-go6hs the model is the Boss BCPA10RC. I like it a lot but I do have my gripes. Pro is that its perfect for the Pilot since it doesn’t block the air conditioner and I can adjust the screen orientation. It’s also really sleek, I get complimented by almost anyone that first comes into my car. It feels like a premium product. Con is that as someone who is very picky about audio quality I can’t seem to get a good EQ setting. This is purely my own opinion, but I thought the OEM Dash sounded better. However you can tweak it to get something useable, but regardless most people aren’t nitpicky about car audio as long as somethings bumping.
Case in point, if you can afford it it’s a good purchase. If not there are cheaper options, I just didn’t want to deal with buying an unknown brand and having to replace it again down the line
the fact you had to clean all the rust says you need to talk to your government about using salt instead of sand/alternate melting snow mix., More expensive for the gov, but no rust. Look at Colorado's cars compared to salty Utah.
I have androind play+ harman kardon hifi speakers + cerwin vega amp it sounds awsome
My 2003 Pilot, brought it brand new in Sept 2002, now has 430,000 miles on it. Timing belt change every 105,00. Only issue was the transmission went at 60,000 (that first generation problem). Dealership changed it for free. And I will only put Michelins on it!
Nice!👍😎
I also have a 2003 with 220k miles and still running great! I just drove it on a trip to south Florida for over 2500 miles with no issues. I have never had any transmission problems so I was surprised to hear that yours went out at 60k miles. It would be fantastic to get over 400k miles like yours. My driver seat is shredded and shot. I should get it redone.
This video was super informative, thx for posting! Bought an 06 Pilot 2 years back and am going over it since it wasn't maintained well by the previous owner(s). Still has been a reliable daily driver since the day I bought it, plan to keep it as long as possible!
You’re welcome! Thank you for the kind comment!👍😎
I've used Valvoline Maxlife ATF on two Honda Odysseys, one with 215,000 and the other with 160,000... no problems at all. And it's full synthetic.
Would you recommend I touch the trans fluid on a 2004 honda pilot with 125,000 on it and do a drain and fill?
I have a 2008 Pilot EXL in this same color. I’ve had it about 10 years. It has 250K miles on it. Very happy with it, still has power.
Such a great vehicle. Stay on that timing belt maintenance.
@@checkitout2468 getting it done next month
My 2004 Pilot started to get a transmission shudder at about 180,000. After reading multiple articles on what could be the cause, I read that it might be a good idea to change transmission fluid before taking it in for repair. I drained/refilled/drove it 3 times and the shudder completely disappeared. Definitely ONLY use Honda fluids! Mobil-1 Synthetic is a very good choice for motor oil. I've changed the oil every 5,000 miles and have over 202,000 miles and the engine is still going strong. Burns NO oil.
Other than the transmission shudder, have had only a few very minor issues. Had to replace the two passenger side window regulators and seatbelt. The Fuel-Pump Relay failed and the Idle-Air-Control-Valve got a little wonky, causing intermittent low-idle/stalling situations. Other than these very minor repairs that I fixed myself, I have had no other issues. Only two recalls, both being Air-Bag replacements. I hope my next one will be as reliable as this one has been.
Nice! It’s a wonderful vehicle if you get another one, consider changing the transmission fluid on a regular basis
When changing the transmission fluid be sure to change the external canister filter (looks like a fuel filter) hiding under all the wiring harness attachments on top of the transmission. A fella I know couldn't get Honda to replace it. "Oh we don't change those its a lifetime filter". Then why is it external and available to buy??? Brand of brake fluid does not matter (honda or otherwise) as that is a safety item it has to be able use the standardized DOT3 fluid available at any auto store without issue. I always upgrade my brake fluid to 4 regardless as it has a higher heat range. Drive-line fluids I would stick with Honda if possible. Most importantly is changing the fluids on time or a little early never hurts.
2004 AWD model bought with 222k miles and currently has 230k miles. Transmission fluid wasn't changed often enough by previous owners and isn't working properly but it's not too bad. After a few changes it got better. Rear differential fluid was the same story. Besides the poor maintenance and rusty rear frame area it's a good vehicle. I wouldn't own it but my wife likes it. I'll stick with my 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan. The LT1 engine has plenty of power and it's fun to drive quickly for a big car
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My baby is 18 years old. Bought shiny & new in 2006. She’s been stellar- at 257k. Rebuilt tranny, typical maintenance otherwise. I just replaced shocks (I know!)… serpentine, timing, and today I replaced the intake hose On My own! She’s my ride or die. Honda got me for ever…. Love them and Toyotas.
I have a 2010 Pilot with 194,000 and still running strong. Keep the basic services done and I'll have it for a few more years reliably.
I have an 03 I drove it all the way to south Mexico about 2200 miles away when my pilot had 138k miles back on 2019 really good suvs
I put Castrol Transmax synthetic transmission fluid in 5 years ago in a 2006 Honda pilot. Transmission shifted smoothly as always did.
I have a 2007 Pilot 4WD with 364,000 mile on it. It’s a beast!!
I just bought a 2010 Pilot with AWD and tow package with 237K and this thing runs like a sewing machine. Even at those miles it's still as tight as a BMW. No noises, wobbles or pulling left/right. Amazing a car can be put together this well and will keep going just with fluid maintenance. Highly recommend
I got 200k miles on my 06 exl pilot... runs buttery smooth!! Maintenance cost is pretty good too!!! I LOVE it!!!
My brother picked up a 2004 Pilot with 298K miles from his neighbor for $500. He was moving out of state and it had issues. My brother gave me $700 and I did everything except suspension which was too. All fluids, plugs, clean coils, filters, vtm fluid and sensor, power steering belt and serpentine belt, repaired the power seat, AC blower, power steering pump and line, brakes, new FOB, new keys, plus misc things. As far as fluids. I used Honda for PS and transmission. I used Zerex for Honda. VT/M from Honda. It needa the oil Pan sealed it's leaking, but will wait till spring, I am not doing it in 40 ° or less garage 😂. I am impressed with it. Oh, timing chain is good, it has been replaced twice over the 298K miles and I took the cover off and checked it anyway, looks new
timing chain??????????????
I have an 2006 Pilot that I bought with over 181k miles on it. There was no history of the timing belt ever being replaced therefore had a local shop do the complete timing belt job for $500. I’m aware they didn’t use Honda OEM or Aisin parts. I’ll just change it before it hits 240k miles with an OEM or Aisin. Hopefully it makes it that far.
Great info about the Honda products. I just bought a used 2012, 144,000 miles , and I want to make it last.
I and my 5 friends were nearly in a head on accident with a tractor trailer last year in 2007, swerved off the road, down an embankment, and through the brush. Turned on 4wd and came back up on the road, not a scratch. Vehicle was so heavy and stable throughout that accident scenario and I just bought another I was so impressed.
Wow! Close call. Yes they are tanks.
@@checkitout2468 Yes the tractor trailer hit a disabled flat bed tractor trailer on his side of the road on a two lane road and came straight at us. After we got back up on the road saw the tractor trailer with its fuel tank busted, diesel everywhere and jackknifed in our lane. It was rather miraculous. The 2007 Pilot is at my second home. We'll keep it going forever, really saved us. We drove about a mile up the road and all gotta out at a restaurant parking lot and were jumping around telling people we all almost died.
That's a crazy story I hit a hog airbag deployed front bumber messed up but other then that it ran fine no major problems besides airbag the second gen pilots are the best built in my opinion the new ones look like a mini van might get a Honda passport next
@@shawnp8076 Yeah people don't realize how big the hogs / boars are, serious damage possible!
I have a 2007 pilot i was given with 120,000 runs great minor repairs has 330,000 still running strong great vehicle 😊
I definitely would stand behind a Pilots reliability as well. Bought mine, 2008 SE 2WD, about 4 years ago in High school with 124k miles. Im at 188k miles now and have done only scheduled maintenance at the dealer. No issues what so ever, not even a check engine light. I would certainly buy this car again if I had to and plan on driving it until the wheels fall off
THATS CRAZY I’m enroute to pay for that exact car! 110k miles 2008 for 10,900
@@imtheguy1565 I paid $9500 for mine. Crazy to see where the used car market is at it, Ive been entertaining offers just because this is most ill ever get back for it. At 205k miles strong currently, only thing thats come up since my last post was my SRS light
@@MustangbluePSN i just just purchased mine for 6500 . it’s a 2010 and after reading all the comments I just feel like I did such a good deal and won’t feel bad about throwing a solid thousand to leave it flawless
@@Paul-go6hs that's a steal
I got a 2004 honds pilot with 232,000 never had a check engine light only maintenance light never had not one problem
Driving a 2004 model for nearly 4 years and love the car. Would willing buy it again. Nice car
Very roomy inside and safe. Just get that timing belt changed on time.
Its about 18 mile for city and about 23 to 24 mile on highways.. Keep up on all maintenance and you'll be good. I bought Honda timing belt and it snap a year in half later while driving locally.. It caused me $3500 to get an engine swapped..
OWNED two EX pilots. 07 and 08. Also a 2012 mdx which is about same for base of engine. 07 had starter die in driveway (made for easy repair, no tow). The 08 suffered alternator getting fried (real bad ground wire frayed). My fault for not changing out wire. But good news still drove if I wanted to keep recharging battery by battery charger.
All three had annoying water leak from roof area. Drain hoses were not clogged. Other then that, all were over 200k miles before selling.
MUST USE HONDA FLUIDS and quality parts when important mechanical components. Go cheap and your risking trouble.
I'm looking at a 2008 Honda Pilot soon with 200,000 miles awd. Listening for tips. So that's why I'm here. Also, considering a 2004 Mazda Tribute awd 6 cyl same mileage.
My wife has 2008 Honda pilot 2wd it well be better no problems with it at all take road trips all da time never worried about it breaking fun to drive
I have a 2007 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD with 230,000 miles and bought it with 196,000 miles and I’ve owned it and had it for 2 years and 1 months so far
I also wanted to add that my pilot has had new brakes, new tires and wheels, new engine piston head, valves were adjusted and bent back straight after my brother drove it home one night it started acting up on him but anyhow it was about a $700-800 job to get the engine and the car running again and that happened around 197,000 miles and we bought the car at 196,000 miles for $3200. And the car didn’t ever overheat or anything and I bought my pilot from my mechanic and mine is the top of the line with the back up camera and navigation system so I was passionate and I was looking forward to see it get fixed up and running again and now about 25-30,000 miles later into it it’s doing well and my timing belt was done at 194,000 miles and I also just recently had a new AC compressor and drive belt pulley Installed on it now so now it should only need oil changes and filters from now through the rest of its life hopefully
He neglected to mention the VCM system and how it should be bypassed
VCM on a 2007?
I've got an 07 pilot and the way it performs (in all conditons) is just phenomenal. I'm a single guy, I drive SUVs because I'm a big lanky dude with back/hip problems. Even without needing the third row I love my pilot in a way that almost makes me forget the grand cherokees I owned before.
Yeah I have a 07 and 13, heavy and bulky, comfortable and offering good protection, people are crazy on the road
With the 3 quart tranny fluid swap you also NEED to change the filter! The friction material from your tranny's clutch plates end up in your filter.. Once your filter becomes clogged the pressure and flow will be greatly reduced, which is how and when these transmission fails.
My 2010 Honda Pilot is at 321900 miles. Still runs like a top. Love the Pilot!!
I have the same vehicle and have 185, 796 miles. I would agree with you on Honda Fluids except for the Brake Fluid. I have used generic fluid for the past 14 years and have never had a problem. I do change the brake fluid every 2-3 years and live in a dry climate. OEM parts from Honda are the way to go except for brake pads and rotors. I have not had any issues using quality rotors and pads from NAPA. I also wish I could purchase this vehicle again.
I have a 2007 Pilot myself (a little different color blue) and I passed it down to my 18 year old son. He couldn't be happier with it. I have done all of the 100K maintenance (plugs, coil packs, timing belt, etc....) so we are in pretty good shape. Has 170K miles on it now. Living in Florida the whole time, the paint job has suffered a bit but that doesn't impact its functionality. I did have to have a new headliner put in once - it was falling down and the inside looked like a hearse or a coffin. I changed out the power steering pump myself, along with new headlight assemblies. I had a new steering rack put in and some control arms, etc... and it steers a bit harder than it initially did - probably due to inferior aftermarket parts. But all in all, I agree that it is a great vehicle and we are getting my money's worth. Thanks for sharing.
Great job man. Boy it wasn’t cheap new in 07 though Mine ? Gen2 EXL 2014. Bought it in 2017 with 42,000 miles on it. I’ve got 160 on it now. Yep I do all my own maintenance except the timing belt and water pump. Always OEM fluids. I love this car. OK, I’ll say it… Best car I ever owned. But I don’t want a new one. 😮
It’s good to hear you’re treating her right.
2015 EX-L purchased new in 2014, currently has 70k miles . Honda replaced a blown engine at 15k. Had issues with fouled spark plugs and piston rings at just 55k, Honda covered the cost of repair. Researched the issue, decided to install the VCM tuner to prevent a future piston failure. Besides cost of tuner & regular maintenance, I’ve spent $0 out of pocket for repairs. By far the best vehicle I’ve ever owned!
Our CRVs have chains. One has 275k miles on it and the other 235k miles on it. No timing belts to worry about on those. We just bought a 2018 Pilot. Now I need to find out if they have since changed to a timing chain.
Thanks! My neighbor has a 2005 with about 135K miles they're wanting to sell. I've been reading a lot of good things. Think I'll run it to my mechanic and have him give it a look over.
Yes, if it's an engine timing component then it must be OEM. Any timing component, not just the belt. IMO. It's common for independent garages to use after market timing belt kits because they compete on price and the kits are much cheaper and quality is a wild card. Also independent garages tend to replace all the pulleys, water pump, tensioner and belt. But if you read the service manual, that's not necessary. It simply to inspect and replace "of necessary" and describes what to inspect. Only the belt has a defined service interrval. The tensioner don't seem to last, so I believe it's common to always replace that too. There are dealers, however, who won't replace the water pump and pulleys if they look good. Finally, if an independent garage does replace all those other components simply because they were in the kit then the parts that they put in may we'll be lower quality, and have a lesser service life, than the remaining life of the original parts that were removed.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with the car. The Pilot never interested me until today and your video helps with making my decision.
Have 2004 Pilot with 275000 miles. Best vehicle I've ever owned (original owner). Had to baby the transmission a little over the years but otherwise just routine maintenance.
I have a 05 Pilot awd with 228k miles, love it. Very reliable, I use Honda power steering and Max Life ATF, any 5w20 synthetic oil is good. Only complaints are head liner sag, oil leaks, 17mpg.
I have an '04 Pilot with 207K on it. Runs amazing! Still has a lot of power and works great.
Mine has 390k. Tranny was acting up. Added anti slip. Good for 5k miles so far. No check lights.
Damn...I've seen a handful with a lil over 300k but 390k?! Wow. You must not live in the rust belt, cuz here most Pilots don't make it past 200-230k due to the infamous rear frame rot.
@@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN Virginia and Montana
Honda actually uses aisin timing kits for the most part, doesn't have to be honda branded
We have a 07 with almost 300 thousand miles still running strong heading to North Carolina may 😊
Wow! Nice! I bet you’ve done great maintenance.
I have an 04 Pilot i purchased new and still have today 103,000 miles on it and did the timing belt at 95k so far so good great truck, now i haven’t done as much maintenance as people do, just oil changes but that’s about it!
I’ve got a 06 Pilot 4WD with 257k on it. Going strong like the day it was born and I live in the south so no fear of rusty rear frames.
Sounds like a score!
I bought a 2008 Pilot (2 wheel drive) 3 years ago ($ 5,000)...GREAT CAR--not great on gas, but lots of power, lots of room and drives exceptional and comfortable..I love this car..I have a 2019 CRV and it is good, but I love the older Pilot.I put new Uniroyal tires on it--WOW really nice..
Just bought a 2004 Pilot from the local auction. Mechanically it was a little rough, the timing belt broke shortly after I drove it home. Had to rebuild the heads. Other than that it's a solid runner with only 180K on it. I hope to have it for a few more years or until something major like the transmission causes me to ditch it. For the price I couldn't pass it up. It's a Honda!
I've got a 2004 pilot with 237000 on it and it's still going! And I've always used aftermarket parts
Agree with the timing belt thing. Dont cheap out on it. I have a 2014 Odyssey- pretty much same as Pilot. When it came time for the timing belt, I took it to Honda for all OEM parts. Yes I paid a lot more than a regular shop but wanted that Honda service/ parts for peace of mind.
I have the same Honda pilot 100k miles had a very reputable foreign car mechanic shop change all fluids and the timing belt also was recommended to change water pump at that time new radiator ,new brakes ,tires and it drives like a new car the pilot is a great car
Spot on critique! Designing an interference engine (3.5L v-6) with a cheaper belt (rubber band) to keep valves and pistons in sync is engineering malpractice. Hydraulic tensioner failure 20k miles after replacement cost us roughly $6k; Honda told us to FOAD. Maybe
Honda four-cylinder’s are timing chain. But they continue to make the six cylinders with belts and interference. I’d say go with toyota but I’m sure you’ve heard they’re having some transmission and engine problems in their Tacoma‘s and tundras. Their smaller engines are still very reliable from what I understand.
I have an 04 with 236xxx. About to do timing. Only huge issue was steering rack going out. You have to drop the subframe. Not easy without a lift.
Excellent advice about using genuine Honda fluids...
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No P2647/VSA/Limp Mode problem?
I used Honda fluid on my motor. My transmission the rear end because it was all wheel drive. The only mistake I made was. I changed the coolant and I didn’t use Honda, but the bottle that he came in said it meets Honda OEM I was in a rush so I put it in. I keep my eye on it. I never see rust it’s always a nice blue color so it is what it is on that one. PS don’t want to be off-topic but mine is a CRVEXL just turn 100,000 miles this year. It’s a 2013.
That's not entirely true about the ATF as many of us on the Piloteers website swear by Valvoline's MaxLife ATF in our fist generation Pilots. I've been using it for nearly 130K miles in my '05 and I've had zero issues with it. It's also a synthetic which Honda's ATF is not. Brake fluid is brake fluid so you don't have to stick with Honda's fluid in that case. I used to always use Honda's coolant/antifreeze until four or five years ago when I switched over to an aftermarket brand which is nearly identical. I have 227K miles on my '05 Pilot and nearly 300K on my '98 CRV which I drove off the dealer's lot 25 years ago.
I got an 04 all black for 2.3K 184k miles pretty good condition. Needs a few things done but I think she’ll last a long time for me at least
Nice! Wax the sun, prone areas, make sure the timing belt’s been changed, change that oil on a regular basis and check the transmission fluid. Maybe you can get another hundred thousand out of it.
@ I hope so thanks for the advice. I do have the timing belt on the list too!
Timing belt change interval is recommended at 60k miles in cold weather climates or if you tow a lot. 105k normal timing belt interval. I would split the difference and get it done around 80k in normal driving.
I own a 2011 pilot and purchased it with 86k miles and I had the timing belt and related items installed at my Honda dealership and I have 103k miles with no issues.. just oil changes. I will be swapping out the battery soon as winter is on its way. The Pilot has become my daily driver and I have a 2020 SUV which I bought new so that tells me how great the 2011 pilot is….
You need to bypass the VCM system immediately to avoid serious engine issues/catalytic converter issues due to oil getting into the combustion chamber/exhaust system
@A Gravy I joined the Piloteers group and the shills there were telling me the same thing. There may be a few that need a VCM disabler put on, but in most cases quality oils, gas, and regular service are all that is needed.
Most reliable years are 2006-2008 Pilots! Have my 2006 with over 220k! Love it!
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At 2:10 “you need to use Honda fluids.” I agree and disagree. For ATF I’ve used Valvoline Max (drain and fill) for years and it’s been fine. I do that every other oil change, or every 15,000 miles. Coolant, yes, that should be genuine Honda. Same with power steering fluid, that should be Honda genuine. But oil, ATF, and brake fluid, don’t need to be genuine Honda. Certainly to be safe you should use Honda genuine, but on an old vehicle like this where I’m shooting for a high score on affordability, I’ll take my chances on non-genuine fluid. Regarding timing belt, I think you’re right that it should be genuine, although I have an Aisin currently in mine (installed at 130k, currently at 205k) and it’s been G2G. But do NOT push it with timing belts on this vehicle, replace when recommended by manufacturer. Only thing I don’t see mentioned in this video is valve adjustment - that should also be done according to manual. Great video man thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Our 06 Pilot is one of the best purchases we've ever had. We just did 2 separate two-thousand mile trips in it with no issues ,except I didn't put enough coolant in it for one trip. I'll do another trip at the drop of a hat.
So true on the fluids, and maintenance, I'm a SuperTech oil fan, everything else is genuine Honda, no skimping there. These Pilots are really easy to work on, so there should be no excuses. And that timing belt, why Honda WHY!?! Folks, if you do it yourself, use the Honda kit, with the water pump, plenty of Honda parts stores on the internet that you can purchase at a nice discount vs the local dealer. Don't try to save a few bucks, get the real stuff.
Great comment, thank you.
I can’t believe honda still uses belts on their six cylinder engines. And they’re interference engines… come on Honda! Makes me wanna move over to toyota…
Since 2006, all Honda 4cyls have chains, and only their V6s are belt-driven. The last belt-driven Honda 4cyl was the 2005 Civic. Honda's new 10AT and CVTs are also more reliable than their older CVTs and 5ATs and 9ATs
own my 06 since 2011, I'm the 2nd owner. Im on 210k miles it is a great vehicle. but when you get closer 200k i had to replace a list of items but recently my biggest money part that i could not replace myself was the rear main seal.
07 Honda Odyssey driver with 210,000 miles on it. Have been really careful on changing fluids. Have not really gotten Honda branded stuff other than transmission fluid. Have had zero problems. Very solid yet. As matter of fact taking it on 2 12 hour road trips over the next 3 months. Fully expect to get another 100,000 miles out of it. No plans to sell as it’s not worth much anymore anyway!
That’s a lot of miles! Nice job. What kind of transmission problems were you having? Did you use honda‘s transmission fluid when you changed it? The three fluids that I strongly recommend people stick with Honda or the transmission fluid, the power, steering fluid, and the coolant. Anyway, sounds like you’re doing a good job.
@@checkitout2468 Actually no transmission problems. I had the Honda dealer change the transmission fluid every 40,000 miles so it was Honda fluid. All the other fluids have been compatible fluids but not necessarily Honda branded. Have changed the timing belt twice. I never considered doing myself as the O.P. did as above my comfort level. Have done the brakes a few times and shocks and suspension replacements have been done as the old ones wore out. Did lose the rear a/c & heating as the lines rusted out(am in the snow belt) and decided not to replace)
I have 7 vehicles. Honda, Ford(2), Dodge, Toyota(2), Chevy. The Honda is the only one I bought new. On a cost per mile basis the Honda has been the cheapest one at about 19 cents per mile. Surprise #2 is the Dodge at 23 cents per mile and Toyota is #3 at 28 cents per mile. That would include original purchase price and all other non fuel related expenses divided by personal miles driven.
@@checkitout2468 Actually I haven't had any transmission problems. I changed the transmission fluid every 40,000 miles at the dealer we bought it from so it was Honda fluid. All the other fluids were changed regularly and it was all compatible, but not necessarily Honda Fluid.
I've had the Timing belt changed twice and the dealer did that as well. I've gotten much more handy, but changing one of those was outside of my comfort zone and based on the OP's experience think it was a wise decision. Other than that the only other repairs have been "normal stuff" such as brakes and suspension components as they've worn out. The rear ac/heater no longer works because those lines rusted out(we live in the snow belt), but passengers only really notice on very hot or cold days.
I own 7 vehicles(2 Fords, 2 Toyotas, 1 Dodge, 1 Chevy, and the Honda. The Honda is the only one I bought new. When I figure out the cost of owners ship(purchase price + all repairs and mainenance other than fuel/miles driven) the Honda has been the cheapest at about 19 cents per mile. Second surprisingly has been the Dodge at 23 cents per mile. The old Toyota is at 28 cents. Our newer Toyota is too recent a purchase to mess with yet.
As to the timing belt, you should also change the water pump and the tensioner and idler pulley at the same time, only use Honda parts or the OEM which is Aisin, you can get an entire timing kit that has the OEM mfg parts. I just had to replace a water pump on a 2007 Pilot with about 50K on it since the timing belt replacement, they used a Honda belt, but went cheap on the rest of the parts. I do lots of timing belts on Asian makes, I only use the Aisin timing kits with WP's and tensioners.
Definitely high quality timing belt, great tip for those who do not know. That timing belt failure is absolutely the end of the world. haha
Coolant doesn’t really matter, you need to use Honda coolant and no such thing is Honda coolant. It’s just name they put on when you buy their products. You need to buy what’s its call the Asian coolant for Japanese cars, long as it says Asian cuz the mix is different .
The oil change is very important proper maintenance
Much respect to you sir. I have an 06 Pilot, 170 K. Dang, about the timing belt replacements my mechanic used after market ones. Didn't think to use OEM fluids and parts.
Love your maintenance style.
2006 Pilot here…255,600 miles, serviced regularly and runs like a top!
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Motor oil, power steering fluid, and coolant aren’t required to use Honda fluids, long as you buy the good brand is good. But for transmission and break fluid I would by Honda fluid.
Also change your transmission filter below your brake reservoir
I changed my timing belt on my 2011 Pilot at 117K at the dealer...went a little long. Just had the second one changed at the dealer, im at 240k with no issues.
Buy new, then drive it straight to the best undercoating shop you can find. Then get it recoated EVERY year. My 08 Ridgeline is in perfect running order, but it rusted out all over, frame doors, body panels, fenders, etc.
I have an 06 Pilot EXL 4WD that I bought at 26k miles, now at 298k. You DON'T have to use Honda branded fluids. I've been Castrol Transmax in the transmission for the last 150k with no problems, Triax for power steering, PEAK OET for coolant, Triax DTF-1 in the transfer case and Castrol Syntrax in the differential. No ill effects, and LOTS of money saved. I drive on average 90-120 miles a day. On the timing side, I use OEM Honda idlers, tensioner and water pump, but I use a Gates kevlar timing belt. It's a lot stronger and longer wearing than the oem honda part
Hi, great video. I agree about what you said about the Honda's. I have a 2021 Pilot myself and it is great (especially the AWD system is very capable). Did you ever get that interference on the engine fixed??? And, how much did that cost? My opinion is that Honda should go to timing chains and also ROLLER LIFTERS ....... not the solid lifters that are out dated.
He said he replaced his engine, chains have issues to, the chain may not break but the guides are made from teflon or similar and will wear out. Belts are cheaper and easier to maintain. Ask a bmw or audi owner if they replaced theor timing chain, thousands of dollars.
He said cost 5000
@@splice247 Another thing is that those Honda lifters have to be manually adjusted every now and then. It's best to get something with a non-interference engine. Even if the timing belt breaks, it won't hurt anything.
Talking about the timing belt you should always do the water pump and thermostat if you replace the timing belt water pump is behind the belt.
Only honda V6 have the timing belt. The 4cyl have had timing chains since early 2000s. Current 1.5t amd 2.0L engines have chains. Chains also have issues, mainly wearing out the guides, very difficult and costly to replace the guides.