Steve Albini on regret over comments he made about the Pixies and Surfer Rosa

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  • When Life of the Record spoke to Steve Albini about his work on SURFER ROSA last year, we were taken aback at the regret he felt over comments he made in a fanzine about the Pixies as a young man. It was inspiring that he found a way to keep evolving as a person while remaining completely himself.
    Life of the Record podcast - Pixies Surfer Rosa documentary
    Interviews with Joey Santiago, David Lovering and Steve Albini
    Episode 28
    lifeoftherecor...
    #stevealbini #pixies #surferrosa #interview #documentary #musicpodcast #lifeoftherecord

Комментарии • 179

  • @noyd4172
    @noyd4172 4 месяца назад +127

    This is what maturity sounds like.

  • @Bilbie55
    @Bilbie55 4 месяца назад +239

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of a genuine apology. So strange to see in a way. The music industry isn’t really the kind of place you think of when you think of genuine, honest people. He was a titan. Rest well Mr. Albini

    • @abstractwater
      @abstractwater 4 месяца назад +11

      exactly. This kind of plain, sincere apology without any excuses is so rare, not just in music, but in our society as a whole. 😢

    • @mateoes207
      @mateoes207 4 месяца назад

      Also a lover of the 🍼 👶....🤮

    • @Bilbie55
      @Bilbie55 4 месяца назад +1

      @@abstractwater nailed it

    • @bnbsda
      @bnbsda 4 месяца назад

      Class! Honor!

    • @jonathanwapner6262
      @jonathanwapner6262 4 месяца назад +1

      It's polite and verbose, but he still starts it off with his reasoning for why he trashed them. A real apology does not validate the apologizer. The last few sentences that explain what he said and that he was ashamed would have been a solid apology. That beginning part seeks to absolve his actions in some way.

  • @CT-ho6si
    @CT-ho6si 4 месяца назад +256

    Kim Deal said it best, "The human being he's become...I could just cry!" RIP to a legend, we lost him way too soon. Thanks for everything Mr. Albini.

    • @75YBA
      @75YBA 4 месяца назад +28

      That’s good to hear. I’m surprised someone didn’t hospitalize him for his mouth back in those days.

    • @ndesdsadfd
      @ndesdsadfd 4 месяца назад +11

      The beauty of Life...we grow as we age. May he rest.

    • @cd3949
      @cd3949 4 месяца назад +7

      He's dead?

    • @CT-ho6si
      @CT-ho6si 4 месяца назад

      @@cd3949 Yeah, passed on Tuesday of a heart attack.

    • @amazonguitar22
      @amazonguitar22 4 месяца назад

      @@cd3949yea he died of a heart attack 5 days ago

  • @usquebaugh1
    @usquebaugh1 4 месяца назад +43

    We all have regrettable moments. The trick is to own up to it. He owned up here. As others have said. Respect.

  • @seth6691
    @seth6691 4 месяца назад +13

    Underground was suspicious.. yeah because they didn’t have a “look” or some obvious “edge” they were going for. Overweight, balding, a woman on bass, tucked in button downs.. I personally find that appealing and lets you get into the music more.

  • @shayneoneill1506
    @shayneoneill1506 4 месяца назад +42

    Ah well. We all grow up and get a wiser persepective and regret some of our choices from our youth. What a tragedy the world doesnt get more years with the older and wiser albini.

  • @cassiuswilliams8534
    @cassiuswilliams8534 4 месяца назад +24

    So happy to have been shown this, it always made me sad how viciously he talked about Pixies and how little he seemed to care about Surfer Rosa, one of the best characteristics he had was his ability to change and his maturity. RIP Steve

  • @troygaspard6732
    @troygaspard6732 4 месяца назад +42

    RIP Albini, Surfer Rosa is a tremendous album.

  • @phnigra111
    @phnigra111 4 месяца назад +63

    Respect brother. When someone uses the word ‘ashamed’ over the word ‘guilty’ that means you truly are taking accountability.
    We lost a truly talented and interesting storyteller.
    RIP Steve

  • @djtforever1414
    @djtforever1414 4 месяца назад +6

    Surfer Rosa is the best Pixies album.

  • @mcbillygoat
    @mcbillygoat 4 месяца назад +24

    I always figured Albini was being a punk when he slammed bands or he was jealous of their success. Albino should be as much of a household name as Kurt Cobain for what he was doing in the early 80’s.

    • @Jonah-kp3vz
      @Jonah-kp3vz 4 месяца назад

      Target should be selling rapeman tshirts alongside the nirvana

  • @TheRealTomWendel
    @TheRealTomWendel 4 месяца назад +7

    Great record. Great job engineering/producing.
    Part of the appeal of SR is that it has a current of pop appeal, something Charles never denied having in his own musical tastes. They weren’t Big Black. Both were great bands. Vive la difference!

  • @jackominty3633
    @jackominty3633 24 дня назад +1

    When did he say this? Because he shat on his Pixies album in his interview with Marc Maron in 2016. I'm pretty sure I know why he did it. He's very close to Kim, who always had a difficult relationship with Charles (who wrote all the songs), and needed to devalue the Pixies to big her, and her Breeders project, up.
    Not to suggest Albini was not one of the greats.

  • @lw1zfog
    @lw1zfog 3 месяца назад +2

    did he apologise about all the CP stuff ?

  • @whatarefriends4
    @whatarefriends4 4 месяца назад +3

    It’s good to admit when you were wrong and apologize

  • @PristineTX
    @PristineTX 4 месяца назад +6

    The problem I had with his comments back then was that they were made after Doolittle came out, and he sounded quite bitter that the great Gil Norton had been chosen to do that record instead of him, and naturally, it sounded way different than Albini’s documentary style. When he said “I’ve never seen four cows more willing to be led around by their noses…” and whatever other snide comments, that sounded BITTER. Pixies have always seen their producers as key collaborators, and their histories with Gil Norton (four albums) and now Tom Dalgety (the last three albums) show that they are selective and do have particular opinions on which producers they like.

  • @danielhenderson3753
    @danielhenderson3753 4 месяца назад +7

    RIP to a legend.

  • @jaw513
    @jaw513 Месяц назад

    Steve Albini on regret over comments he made about Steely Dan and Aja

  • @ultrasonicpriest
    @ultrasonicpriest 4 месяца назад +9

    Why do I get the feeling that no one involved in the interview has any idea what he said and in which fanzine

    • @konstantinov
      @konstantinov 4 месяца назад +3

      Forced Exposure.

    • @AnthonyFlack
      @AnthonyFlack 4 месяца назад +1

      It's pretty famous. Something about cows being led around by their nose rings.

  • @terminalmode
    @terminalmode 4 месяца назад

    I've never head this before but, this one hit hard, especially after Steve's passing. So much humanity here. Definitely the way apologies should be done.

  • @sibbyeskie
    @sibbyeskie 4 месяца назад

    The only comment I wonder about was that one about wanting to watch videos of kids doing, uh, questionable things to their backsides. Great engineer, but not sure if I want to know what’s up with that.

  • @rhaq426
    @rhaq426 11 дней назад

    what did he s say

  • @Fiveash-Art
    @Fiveash-Art 4 месяца назад +7

    Albini's voice sounds like Rick Beato

  • @sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262
    @sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 3 месяца назад

    Steve Albini never had to address his self-admitted attraction to children (proof: his Big Black tour diaries) because he was considered part of the punk rock cultural intelligentsia. The media just never called him out on it.

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 2 месяца назад

      Sensational writings in zines he did in his 20s prove nothing. There is an endless supply of proof that he liked to rile people up, in his teens and 20s. He grew out of it. The question is, will you flag my post because it goes against your narrative or will you step off the internet and actually do something that benefits the safety of children

  • @cleftturnip7774
    @cleftturnip7774 4 месяца назад

    People are entitled to an opinion.

  • @NOWtheband
    @NOWtheband 4 месяца назад +13

    Well, fair enough but really he should've expressed a little more regret over working with Peter Sotos, contributing to his magazine "Pure" and writing about child porn in an overly enthusiastic way in the Big Black tour diary.....

    • @aelitaurick5553
      @aelitaurick5553 4 месяца назад +1

      nah

    • @stephenbrooks9509
      @stephenbrooks9509 4 месяца назад +3

      hey everyone check it out this guy claims to have the Big Black tour diary in earnest

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 4 месяца назад +7

      In the same diary he wrote disparagingly of Asians, then worked with Japanese band Zeni Geva as engineer and collaborator over several albums. The singer's mother and grandmother stayed at Albini's house. Unfortunately those of us who weren't there can't ascertain the intent of the writing, but those who were can, to get a rise out of people who already hated him or with whom he wanted no association

    • @rjmacready6693
      @rjmacready6693 4 месяца назад

      ​@@aelitaurick5553seek help

    • @madhatter8508
      @madhatter8508 4 месяца назад +3

      Stop, I already love the guy. You don't have to try to convince me to love him even more.

  • @s0mbres
    @s0mbres 4 месяца назад +2

    They listened to my advice so they suck.

  • @oo-ru5lt
    @oo-ru5lt 4 месяца назад

    RIP Prince of punk

  • @drowningin
    @drowningin 4 месяца назад

    It’s my least favorite album of theirs pre break up. The album is much better live though

  • @Buckseed
    @Buckseed 4 месяца назад +7

    The Replacements Rock! RIP Steve

  • @mjjames2442
    @mjjames2442 4 месяца назад

    Where’s the video? 80’s hipster politics such a drag. It least he apologized. But geez

  • @rodneymcintyre8544
    @rodneymcintyre8544 4 месяца назад

    His original criticism was dead on.

  • @JasonLehto-x4r
    @JasonLehto-x4r 4 месяца назад +1

    You obviously can never take back anything you said about anybody… But did you intentionally say it because it needed to be set out loud to figure out something deeper? The number of ways to look at opportunities… Think about it like that. I don’t regret anything I’ve ever ever said about anybody or to anybody.

    • @gregdahlen4375
      @gregdahlen4375 3 месяца назад

      idk u might regret something if said in public

  • @blltz4410
    @blltz4410 4 месяца назад +2

    What about his comments on underage girls

    • @madhatter8508
      @madhatter8508 4 месяца назад +4

      Those girls are all grown up by now

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 4 месяца назад +2

      Nothing screams "I've never heard a note of this guy's music" more than calling him out for something he violently protested against in a song

    • @jd-jy8lu
      @jd-jy8lu 4 месяца назад +2

      @@chrisknight3734 go read the Big Black european tour diary, specifically the Germany entry. Then go read his musings about PURE magazine and Peter Sotos. Stomach-turning stuff to be sure.

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 4 месяца назад

      @@jd-jy8lu Did you not read my comment? He wrote "Jordan Minnesota" literally exposing a sex ring. The Pure article is meant to lampoon the 80s daycare scandal and if you read all of it, it mostly praises serial killers (another subject grossly appropriated by mass media to this day). I read the tour diary 20 years ago, it is also bs. If you don't think so, read the entire thing, lots of stuff that reads like pure sensationalism. Albini was a journalism major, his entire schtick in the 80s was writing about vile things to piss his peers off. It's all been out in the open for decades, people commenting on it now weren't even born and should just stay out of the conversation

  • @JamZ-qs9ck
    @JamZ-qs9ck 4 месяца назад +7

    He's the reason why I left the band in New Jersey that he was producing

    • @Jonah-kp3vz
      @Jonah-kp3vz 4 месяца назад +5

      *engineering

    • @zetadopo9172
      @zetadopo9172 4 месяца назад +5

      What happened? Which band?

    • @FrancescoFp
      @FrancescoFp 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah tell us more

    • @madhatter8508
      @madhatter8508 4 месяца назад +7

      Tell us your made up story, vague man

  • @groalerable
    @groalerable 4 месяца назад +1

    why are rock guys obsessed with giving their opinion on everything

    • @zeroxxuit2035
      @zeroxxuit2035 4 месяца назад +5

      he worked on the damn album

  • @MemePizza
    @MemePizza 4 месяца назад +3

    It’s too bad he was an unapologetic supporter of CP 🤷‍♂️

    • @chrisknight3734
      @chrisknight3734 4 месяца назад +5

      Literally wrote the song Jordan Minnesota but yeah believe the Johnny come lately writing of a convicted terrorist

    • @pinecone9045
      @pinecone9045 4 месяца назад +2

      @@chrisknight3734 It's what happens when righteous drizzle holes think they are winning but actually, they can't read or understand words.

  • @JokersNtheOddball
    @JokersNtheOddball 4 месяца назад +7

    I get what he is saying. Their sound is anomalous. If your a musician you appreciate it. But they also are this funny kind of litmus test for people who listen to music because they are told its good. Makes me sad i want to tell them but i know its too much. Another thing kurt would regret had he lived to see it, as he was the reason they got big.

    • @JokersNtheOddball
      @JokersNtheOddball 4 месяца назад +4

      @@ericjune81 I said the reason the pixies are a household name is because he told nirvana fans about them.

    • @maynardwayward12
      @maynardwayward12 4 месяца назад +10

      NAH you don't have to know how to play an instrument to get the Pixies, lol, if that was the case no one would have heard of them

    • @shayneoneill1506
      @shayneoneill1506 4 месяца назад +4

      I remember in the early 90s listening to them and being kinda meh about it. I was into heavier things I guess. It wasn't until sitting with a girlfriend once utterly blissed out on some ....... things one might not admit to in older age (it was the 90s and what happened in the 90s stays in the 90s lol)..... and it all just made sense and a lightbulb went on and I fucking got it. I still think Trompe Le Monde is waaaaay underrated an album.

    • @JokersNtheOddball
      @JokersNtheOddball 4 месяца назад +2

      @@shayneoneill1506 bossanova is my favorite

    • @garethharrison5797
      @garethharrison5797 4 месяца назад +15

      Three out of the four original Pixies albums were top 10 hits on the mainstream charts in the UK before Nirvana had a hit. When Teen Spirit came out, it was widely understood and acknowledged to be very much in their style. Pixies were pretty much a household name in the UK from 1989 onwards for anyone young enough to be into 'Indie' music, which was becoming massive by the late 80s. The idea that Pixies are famous now because Kurt Cobain liked them is a ridiculous opinion. They were essentially semi-legendary by the time the Seattle scene became box office in 1992 - as were Janes Addiction to some extent - because they were seen as the torch-bearers of the underground scene and laid the groundwork for the bands that changed the face of popular music by going overground. I'm a massive Nirvana fan by the way and was then but you couldn't be more wrong if you believe that Kurt Cobain's patronage turned the world on to Pixies. It was just much harder for bands to break into the US mainstream and the UK was more open to Indie music and had a long tradition of Indie bands becoming mainstream acts. Pixies would have been very well known to 'College Music' crowds in 1989, without question.

  • @gregorysanchez6903
    @gregorysanchez6903 4 месяца назад +6

    Surfa Rosa is the most important album in rock music history. I'm not saying it's the best or greatest or even the most original, but how unpredictable some parts are is amazing to me. Steve Albini found a good balance for them.

    • @Peapodzilla
      @Peapodzilla 4 месяца назад +10

      It's not. But certainly a nice thing to say.

    • @BY-bj6ic
      @BY-bj6ic 4 месяца назад

      2nd greatest album of all time.

    • @kerstinover4536
      @kerstinover4536 4 месяца назад

      Nah, OK Computer is the most important album in modern rock history.

    • @GigoloAunt
      @GigoloAunt 4 месяца назад +2

      It's probably Nirvana's nevermind

    • @Peapodzilla
      @Peapodzilla 4 месяца назад +3

      @@GigoloAunt It's likely that Nevermind doesn't exist without Surfer Rosa.

  • @hell45042
    @hell45042 4 месяца назад +1

    Nah they suck

    • @sexpistols1
      @sexpistols1 4 месяца назад

      lol what a dumbass. Listen to Jason aldean there sweets. The adults are talking

  • @nicholaskruger9460
    @nicholaskruger9460 4 месяца назад +6

    I thought he was regretting being so pro vaxxx pro big Ph…. Heart exploded. Clot shot

    • @christianman73
      @christianman73 4 месяца назад +24

      There is always one person who *just has* to make this comment when someone dies. Today, that person was you. The truth is, you have *no idea* what led to his heart attack. Given that that is the case, you *could* have chosen not to speculate. Someone always does though. Some people just can't seem to show even a few days of respect for the deceased. They *have* to speculate.

    • @JohnsDough1918
      @JohnsDough1918 4 месяца назад +20

      Looking forward to your report, Mr armchair coroner.

    • @rabidgoon
      @rabidgoon 4 месяца назад +17

      neil young is even more 'pro-vaxx' than albini was and i just saw him stand on a stage at the ripe old age of 78 last night for two hours in the cold, clammy, new jersey weather and he somehow avoided a heart attack, so perhaps your assessment of the avilable data is a bit off. Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan both seem to be doing okay as well.

    • @rabidgoon
      @rabidgoon 4 месяца назад +13

      @SaviorMoney “it almost certainly caused his heart attack” lol.

    • @rabidgoon
      @rabidgoon 4 месяца назад

      @SaviorMoney there is no such thing as being “almost certain”. You are either certain of something or you are not. And in this case, you are as equally “certain” that a vaccine caused his heart attack as you are that it was caused by the “fact”that he did an eight ball of blow off a stripper’s ass an hour before he had that heart attack. In other words, you lack certainty as to the cause of his heart attack.

  • @CFChristian
    @CFChristian 4 месяца назад +12

    "AHHHHHHHH! OH MY GOD THE PAIN! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
    - Steve Albini right now, in Hell.

    • @lsimmo78
      @lsimmo78 4 месяца назад +3

      We do not know whether or not he believed in Christ and His salvation.

    • @dustbinfilms
      @dustbinfilms 4 месяца назад

      some of you christians do love to imagine others in pain. curious.

    • @Lnch4ALion
      @Lnch4ALion 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@lsimmo78"believing" makes no difference

    • @gillihansmobilewelding
      @gillihansmobilewelding 4 месяца назад +18

      ​@@Lnch4ALionaww, little guy has to justify his belief system online to strangers. How cute.

    • @skinkroot
      @skinkroot 4 месяца назад +8

      aint no gawd aint no hell

  • @YoungNino2017
    @YoungNino2017 4 месяца назад

    he was right the first time... the Pixies are horrible