Completely agree. Rick just continues to produce these absolute gems. Love all the interviews and I hope he continues doing them for a long time. Bravo Rick!!!
Believe it or not, there are quite a lot of 79 year olds who are still as sharp as a tack, even if their voices are a bit more gravelly and at times a bit slower than younger folks.
I played with Chris Cross in high school, and we hadn't seen each other for 10 years. When Chris was ready to go on the road, my name was mentioned, and Chris said, yea, give Hank a call. I got these lame charts to look over, and I asked his manager "Can I get the pre-release tapes?", and he gave them to me. I am a jazzer, and I transcribe all the time. The intro to Sailing was this rich arrangement. It's open stacked 6ths, which is a stellar idea for strings, and it's got a backwards circle of fifths progression of parallel minor 7th chords reminiscent of Jimi Hendrix's Little Wing...a really creative idea, Michael! I worked it out, and on the audition I nailed it. I remember Chris came over and said "How'd you do that?" I was hired immediately. Michael Omartian didn't mention it but he got a Grammy for Best String Arrangement for Sailing. Chris, and Tommy, and Andy, and James, we're all still great friends. Kudos, Rick, to a definitive interview!
the layout is appreciated, stacked 6ths(can hear the 6ths didn't know the stack, never seen the sheet mu), backward 5hs progression(this is going to help my eartrain), parallel minor 7h( play little wing all the time, did know that). the blind man sees. thanksjazz. (will research & get back 2-U). this era of hits was very commercial, foreigner was unstoppable at the time, and Christopher Cross': '" Laura " from a soap theme not only did Barry Manilow do commercials...your experience is interesting.
Did you go to Alamo Heights HS? I went to Mac the same time as CC, and I remember people talking about him, other kids, during a Theater Arts competition.
@@GinoBarasa 😁Yep, AHHS. Chris and I did a duet on "Classical Gas" in high school, and then he had a famous copy band called Flash in SA...that's quite a while back there, lol😆
I was a “runner” at Lighthouse Studios in CA back in 1990. Michael Omartian was there producing some artist for a few days. Those few days were the fondest memories I have of my one year working at this studio. Unlike everyone else that came through there, Michael was truly down to earth and treated everyone (including the lowest on the totem pole “the runner”) equally and decently. So here’s my chance to say thanks 34 years later. God bless you dude.
Ricorda che i grandi - in tutti i settori - hanno il dono dell' umiltà. Chi è pieno di se solitamente è una persona insicura e acquista sicurezza maltrattando il prossimo. Omartian appartiene alla categoria dei grandi in senso pieno e pertanto è molto umile e modesto.
Ive did some records at Capitol over a period of years & I always treated the staff & runners & other engineers & whoever was there like they were just people. I remember one day one of the runners told me about this restaurant down Sunset & he was like 'Ya, they have the best green beans.' I thought 'Huh? Green beans huh?' But the next day I ordered food from there & he was right they were really good. So I ordered an extra bowl & took it up to the office & gave it to him. I'll never forget the look on that guy's face as long as I live. Id been there several times by then but Id never seen that guy there before. Its just something I felt like I should do & I could tell it made a small different in that guy's life for that one day.
What R B is accomplishing with his Platform/Channel is Historic and Next Level. He Belongs in a Hall of Fame so Others might be Inspired to Appreciate all that is the “History of Music “
Rick Beato is providing IMHO an invaluable service and becoming a musicology historian with these interviews. I'm 60 years old and have played guitar for 40 years and am a huge Steely Dan fan not mention all of my heroes (Beck, Clapton, Page, SRV etc.) and this interview was so fascinating and informative for me. I had no idea who Omartian was and he was so humble and unassuming. What an amazing guy and musician. Rick, keep doing what you're doing. You are a treasure and we need this documenting of our musical history in all its forms. Bravo sir.
Rick, you CONTINUE to blow my mind with intimate interviews with unknown legends in a music industry that shaped my life, or at least added some technicolor to it. I am in your debt.
You are so right: there's nothing like hearing the stories from the studio during famous recording sessions....I LOVE to hear cats that actually relish in telling these details, because there are a lot of people who simply don't care so much or don't remember. Omartian is a man after my own heart in that way, as I'm a sucker for the untold story or "behind the scenes". I was plenty familiar with his name AND his playing growing up, but even I learned new things about this beautiful musician and producer. What a beautiful cat. Really incredible. People today, who didn't grow up looking in the back of records at liner notes and credits, experience music in a less dimensional way....and that's a huge loss for everybody. I feel lucky in that way.
@@FedericoGPena MANY HARDLY LISTEN TO REAL MUSIC TO BEGIN WITH, just some catchy pop stuff on media. The movie soundtracks helped a newer generation hear all kinds of stuff, but again they never held a let's say Frank Sinatra, Ray Charles, Satchmo, Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole album in their hands while listening to their respective entire albums what to speak of Miles Davis, Coltrane, Dizzy Gillespie , Bird, Peggy Lee, Bing Crosby brought jazz to the mainstream in movies especially etc. I found these in my parents collection when I was a kid in the 50;s 60's after I had my heros on the radio, Beach Boys, Beatles, & the multitude of Motown , Stax & Chess when it finally surfaced as the years went by, with all the greats like Aretha , Sam Cooke, so many who were influenced by the musicians who came before them in the Blues realm, etc. .
@@remondijk People like him who are songwriters/arrangers always play piano well because they don't just play with chords and melody (2 voices), they play the 3rd and 4th voices too which really fills up the space and allows for all these parts to be played in the mid-range which really stand out. Basically they use their thumbs in a rhythmic way to add to the melody.
Possibly the best use of my time. Rick has the ability to attract the giants of the music industry and tell a story that keeps you glued to your seat. Beato over Netflix any day.
Thé Michael Omartian interview was sensational. His comment about our limitations being a major part of creativity were truly profound. What a fine person.
It was really heartening to hear that. When you're a musician, you're acutely aware of what you can't do. To actually embrace that in yourself is fantastically difficult sometimes.
This has probably already been mentioned but Rick is an excellent interviewer. He knows the subject, he knows when to ask the questions, and he especially knows when to listen.
This is one of the unparralled giants in the entire music industry. I had the privilege of working with Michael on two albums he produced on me in the early ‘90’s! Working with him was one of the truly humbling and highest honirs of my life! So great you featured him here. Amazing interview!
Rick's channel is so good it's interfering with my life. I have work to do today, and I just cannot shut off this interview with Michael Omartian. An absolute gem.
Bill Bruford said something similar. I think it was Discipline where Fripp said he was tired of all of Bill's cymbal playing, and he made Bill economize his use of them. That limitation opened him up to other approaches, and I think this is something Bill mentions about his talks on creativity. He's got a PhD on the subject now...
yeah. and its encouraging . we may think we're not good enough draughtsman, or sight readers, ort whatever, but that limitation causes us to find new channels to make our mark. Peter Gabriel said something similar. creative ideas come from a limited number or awkward combination of instruments
43:37 Quote of the video: _"It's the limitations that make the artist, it's not the capabilities"_ WOW, so true, so true. Another superlative interview Rick, keep it up !!
aka, play to your strengths... Bruce Lee famously said he didn't fear the man who knew 10,000 kicks, but the man who'd practiced 1 kick 10,000 times...
I'm just an average Joe, 62 years old, who doesn't play any instruments, and I grew up with so much of the stuff I hear on this channel. Thank you so much for all your interviews, I have learned so much, wow, these guys have some interesting anecdotes.
At min 53 you wake up to this idea that Rick Beato is every one of us - listening along with another mythic hero type - with the sneakers even - and he's any one of us. He just faked us out for 50 minutes with his level of preparation, professionalism, top shelf acumen. Living the dream. Thx man
Easily one of my favorite Rick Beato videos. I could listen to guys like Michael Omartian talk all day. Congratulations on your success that has given you (and us!) the opportunity to hear from the people who contributed to so much of our musical culture. ❤
This is one of the interviews I have been waiting to see. I am so glad it's happened! I can hardly wait to finish this video! Now if Rick Beato could interview Phil Keaggy, that would be 😲
That sounds familiar. Think my dad listens to him. Is he the dulcimer guy? Or maybe a guitarist with missing fingers? Haven't heard that name in years.
So this is the actual piano player on the Aja track?! I always wondered my entire life what the intimate details of this session were. And Rick dug deeper than anybody ever could ever ask, here. I can't get enought of these stories of session lore. A brilliant interview of the Pianist, Producer, & gifted Session Veteran Micheal Omartian, Rick!
Rick’s also interviewed Gadd and Carlton about the Aja session (as Mike said, the session was just a 4 piece rhythm section, with Victor Feldman’s keyboards, backing vocals, Shorter’s sax solo, Denny Dias’s guitar solo, percussion, etc. all overdubbed later).
I used to work at a gas station. The owner was a twenty year Marine veteran. Every once in a while another Marine veteran from WWII would come to the station and they would tell stories from their past in the Marines. I would always be mesmerized by their stories. It was amazing how they did things without the conveniences we have now. Listening to Rick's interviews give me the same feelings I would get listening to those two veterans. These are awesome.
I could listen to Michael Omartian talk about Steely Dan forever. They instilled themselves into my musical psyche from the first. The fact he played such a huge role in how their music is constructed is no surprise. Donald Fagan is a perfectionist. He wants to commit to record what his mind conceives. Michael Omartian was a large part of making that happen. ~Thanks for another great interview. 👍
Donald Fagen è effettivamente un musicista molto rigoroso. Perde molto tempo nella preparazione dei suoi dischi. Direi un tempo esagerato per i ritmi ed i tempi di Hollywood. Omartian con la sua umiltà e pazienza è riuscito ad accontentare anche un artista complicato e insoddisfatto come Fagen.
I'll never forget Michael. There was a Keith Green concert scheduled in Portland, Oregon. Keith was tragically killed in a plane crash shortly before the scheduled concert in Portland. Michael Omartian came in and put on a concert with his wife and Melody Green. Amazing musician! ...also to be able to do this in a very emotional time!
Wow, I didnt know that story. I wish I could hear a recording of that night. I remember where I was when I heard that Keith died. I was a brand new Christian and really got into his music.
Wow. Had not listened to Keith Green since 1981when I randomly bought his first album and fell in love with him. What a great voice and message he had.
@@PeterPatterson-vt2cx There's a Full Documentary on Kieth Green on You Tube that tells all about it. His life and the life of two of his children and some others that were with them were cut short that afternoon. God took them home. Praise Jesus that we will meet him if we wish later on when we graduate to the Real Life!
I first heard Michael when I was kid. It was him & his wife. They were really big in the Christian Music scene. Had I known he played with most of my favorite artists I would have liked them more if possible!!! What a awesome history! WOW!!! Just WOW! Great interview Rick!!!
Yes. Me too. I heard his Christian music, here in the UK, way back in the 80s and loved it. One of my fave albums was 'One More Song for You' by The Inperials which Michael produced and played on. He also co-wrote most of the songs. And then I learn that he's done all this other great stuff. I love Steely Dan too and didn't know he worked with them. What a talent.
I just tap my screen and listen to whatever I want. An amazing sensation of touching a glass screen with my thumb that I will always hold near and dear to my heart.
Got to meet him at 3rd & Lindsey in Nashville a few years ago. He sat in with a Steely Dan tribute band filled with outstanding session players. An amazing writer, producer, arranger and player, but an even nicer man. I believe that he is the only person to have won a Grammy in four different decades. He helped shape so many of my favorite albums and artists in the late 70’s and 80’s and then kept it up in the 90’s in Nashville with one of my favorite contemporary Christian artists 4HIM. Check out their album “The Message”. Omar is truly a gifted musician and this interview brought me such great joy.
I can hardly believe what I just saw. I saw this on my watch list, turned it on and sat listening. I didn't blink. Michael is an amazing treasure and you got the opportunity to interview him. He is such a humble man and very willing to share his knowledge and stories. This was a wonderful time. I grew up like you Rick listening to the artist he was producing and playing session work on. Thanks Rick and Michael for getting together to do this interview. I went to MTSU and was in the music and rim (recording industry management) departments. I apologize for the kid that said he didn't like Steely Dan. I can only say he missed out on some magical times in music.
I spent over 10 years in the Christian Music business back in the 80s and Michael Omartian was HUGE. This was such a joy to watch him being interviewed by such an accomplished producer. This channel gets better with every upload. Thank you so much for sharing this, Rick! 🙏
@@philmoore71Good music is a gift from God, no matter who produces, performs, or writes it. And its clear that Michael - whose humility is as impressive as his talent - sees his career as a gift as well. It would have been interesting to hear him speak about the early years of CCM. But this interview was about his contribution to mainstream music. Great job by both.
Oh well, nobody's perfect... I'd like to say "Marti" was only in it for the money. Xtianity and the associated music repulses me, being a militant agnostic.
@@mauricemcguillicutty4746 i guess that 1 out of 1000 or more, make any money in music. As MO said, he did anything for those first four years... and he was one of the few gifted ones who didn't 'have to wash dishes.'
Thank you so much for this interview. For over 50 years I have been a big fan of Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina's work. Had lunch today listening to their second album. Now I understand some of the background of what made those albums so great. Michael Omartian.
I just love when Rick's guest, no matter who it maybe, is able to play on the spot 👌 parts of the songs that millions of people have enjoyed for decades.
I rarely comment on videos; but this is so impactful. I grew up on Omartian's music: the Christian artists he produced; the records he made with his wife, Steely Dan... everything. So great to hear the stories and to see he is doing great. Thank you Rick!
I briefly met Michael in 1979 at a Saturday morning Bible study at Church On The Way, along with George Grantham (the incredible drummer from Poco), and one of the members from Seawind (the tall guy, whose name I'm sorry I can't remember). I was thrilled. Such a quiet and unassuming bunch of guys. I had been a fan of Michael's since Loggins and Messina. And he truly became my hero when he produced the Imperials. He and his wife Stormie have had a wonderful influence on the lives of many people. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Rick.
100% my story too, became aware of Michael Omartian via his work first with his wife Stormie on her records & then he issued forth a seemingly never ending stream of both mainstream Pop & Christian Rock & Gospel albums - too many to count truly. Not only that but Stormie Omartians book "Power of a Praying Wife" helped restore our marriage - by God's grace - 8 years in - and it lasted 32 years total - until cancer hit & the LORD called her home. So many great memories, musically & otherwise !
I recently went to see Lyle Lovett and his Large Band. Skunk Baxter and Russ Kunkle were among the band members. If you ever get an opportunity check it out. Really enjoyed this talented man's story.
You are one excellent interviewer: qualified enough to talk shop on their level, great probing questions, you don’t make it about you… I rarely will spend an hour on these but you and Michael got me here!
Another grand slam. I've been listening to him my whole life but I've never even seen him. I wish this interview was three times as long. What an incredible musician and extraordinarily cool human. These interviews will be in the library of congress!
Wow. This guy was one of the most amazing players, producers, songwriters, etc. of all my life. His CCM works were also sadly very underrated. GREAT job getting with Michael! Such a superstar!
Michael goes way back and was force to be reckoned with. He put out some very fine Christian albums with his wife Stormie featured on vocals as well. But I only wish there was time to unpack his work with Loggins and Messina, again not as well known but excellent stuff from the early 70’s. GREAT INTERVIEW!
Such a humble, authentic, kind hearted, and talented man! So great to hear all the amazing stories behind these iconic recordings! Thank you Rick!!! You are a treasure to the music community!
Amazing how Rick keeps an appreciation smile throughout every single word of Mr Omartian...unbelievable interview Rick. Thank you Mr Omartian for sharing so much value
I became aware of Michael when I read his name on a Cat Stevens record in the 70's. Such a genius and down-to-earth cool cat! Love these interviews, Rick!
Rick, nobody does what you do. As a lover and student of music with years of playing and producing, you ask the questions that very few can even know to ask. Sting, Peter, Perdy, Chris, Michael, Jimmy, George, Joe, Brad, Seal, and dozens of others, and now Omar talking about one of my ALL time favorite albums. Thank you, Rick, your channel is like a Clubhouse where all the best musicians hang out. Blessings
that's the music I lived for those days. Makes my heart sing to watch him explaining Aja in its incredible complexity. Mr. Omartian is such a genius, gentle man and great storyteller. Enjoyed every minute.
I have sooooo much been hoping and waiting for this interview!! I worked for Michael back in the late 90's as a studio tech, and I have always cherished those times hanging out with him in his studio. He is every bit as gracious and cool of a dude ('Dude!') as he appears here. I was working on his console one day when he comes by and says "Dude, you want a slice of pie?" -- referring the Lou Malnati's pizza he'd just had shipped from Chicago. So he and I sat in his kitchen enjoying some of our favorite Chicago food. Great memories! As I go back and listen to my favorite music from my youth (70's and 80's), I am constantly amazed how much of it that he either played on or produced -- or both. Thanks Rick, for being such a great interviewer and for bringing the musical genius of Michael to more folks' attention!
Thank you. Mr. Omartian's work has been part of the lives of everyone watching this, but for many of us this is the first time we've seen him or heard him speak.
To this day that 1979 Christopher Cross album is still my very favourite and who doesn't love everything Steely Dan I mean come on. What a fantastic interview. Michael Omartian is an amazing storyteller, I enjoyed every minute of this interview. Many blessings to you both.
It's a joy to see how much more polished and professional Rick has become with these remarkable interviews. The lighting, audio quality, camera angles, and Rick's relaxed yet energetic and enthusiastic engagement with and appreciation for these talented individuals is top notch. Great job.
Hearing from Michael was amazing. Steely Dan is one of my favs and "Ricki Don't Lose My Number" really grabbed me even as a teenager. "It doesn't sound good if you hit all the notes at once, I can tell you that." Brought tears to my eyes with laughter about that iconic transition.
How can you not absolutely LOVE Michael Omartian. So talented, so humble, so aware of how if you're open to the universe connecting through you, it will happen. A wonderfully uplifting and inspiring interview. It's also nice to see a genuinely "nice guy" have had so much success. Thank you Rick for bringing us all this interview.
Michael's arrangement of 4Him's song "The Love of God" brought tears everytime. Got to know his work since the 80's from Rod Stewart to The Imperials. Bless you Mr. Omartian!
This was a dynamite interview! I first heard of Michael Omartian from his work with 2nd Chapter Of Acts and other Christian artists plus was very impressed by his solo albums “White Horse” and “Adam Again” in the mid 70’s.
I heard a Christian album by Michael and Stormy before I became a Christian and have not heard it in decades. I still think back to that album and a song about Jonah when I try to remember the names of the cities mentioned in the Bible. I will go try and find it now....
Rick, this is by far one of my favorite interviews. You guys nailed it. You ask the questions that some interviewers wouldn't even go near. But there is a comfort level that musicians have with you, like speaking to a brother. Well done.
I like the fact that there don't seem to be "gotcha" questions in the interviews. The guests know that they can trust Rick, and are relaxed, and tell such great stories!
Wonderful interview. One of the best. Omartian is a fascinating study musically and also admired for his strong Christian faith in an industry where that is not usually appreciated. Great job, Rick.
This guy has made growing up in the 60’s and 70’s so much richer. I have always been a huge fan of Steely Dan and Christopher Cross! I graduated HS in 1979 and had a great stereo when I went off to college. And would blast all of these albums. Not sure my Dormitory neighbours Appreciated it like I did but they were always asking to borrow my records. Thank you for a great interview!!
Thank you Thank you & Thank you for this wonderful interview with Michael Omartian. Short story here: When Christopher Crosses first album came out, I was blown away! I looked at three people within that project. Michael the producer, Christopher the artist, and Chet the engineer. During the late 70's and early 80's I was a young and budding recording engineer in Hawaii. A local record label, "Panini Records hired Lee Hersberg from Warner Brother record to engineer this particular project. Thus began my internship of learning from one of the best I consider in Audio Engineering. I was at the right place at the right time. I assisted Lee during the entire project. In time, I was able to witness the mixing of the second album at Amigo studios. Now at the time Christopher was working on his second album, I was in LA mastering a project at Amigo Studios. I had heard that Chet Hines was mixing Christopher's second album. So During a break from my session, I visited the control room where Chet was mixing the album. Michael Omartian was there sitting quietly. I introduced myself and asked if I could sit, watch and listen to how Chet mixed this particular project. I remember hearing the song "Laura" for the first time there. I am glad to have been there to witness great talents at work. It was an awesome experience for me. And by the way, I give Chet full credit for developing the Wind screen used for recording vocals. It basically was a nylon stocking stretched on a wired coat hanger. I took the idea back to Hawaii. Later, it became commercialized all over the world. Again, GREAT INTERVIEW with Michael Martian.
Ha Rick, I just discovered you interviewed the great, yet somewhat obscure brilliant & influential Michael Omartian ! This is gonna be a great interview, I can't wait but it's 1:30 am & pillow time. Just let me say Michael's a FAB artist in his own right - give his double album "White Horse / Adam Again" a good listen - you'll see his musical brilliance. I can't thank you enough for interviewing this humble man of God & integrity filled music producer !
@@dwightropp3014 Right on 👍 I just checked Amazon it's available as an mp3 download for $8.99 Uh, the CD is $500.00 Crazy but it's rare. I'd better go find mine & put it in the safe LoL PS White Horse @ 1974 Adam Again @ 1976 I think the double CD I have was from 1991. Boones Overstock does CD reissues of rare but in demand old CCM. Maybe they could ? Or contact Michael Omartians office to inquire ?
@psalm2forliberty577 Somewhere in here is your reply to my comment about Michael. In it you mentioned the loss of your wife. I had not seen your reply until just now and wanted to let you know how sorry I am to hear that. thank you for mentioning Michael's solo albums. I will check them out. God bless you.
I used to play songs from White Horse as a college radio dj at KSCC, Costa Mesa. Not to mention songs from an Omartian produced album by Matthew Ward called Toward Eternity. I'll always remember Omartian's "Killer Bees" keyboard solo. Great stuff!
@@Isaiah538 AWESOME 👍😎. What years was that ? I used to buy all my CCM CDs & Albums at the Costa Mesa Maranatha Books & Music store. Circa 1985-88 Do you remember that ? (Just saw the White Horse CD sells fur for $500 now - I'd better find mine Lol) KYMS was the big Christian Pop Rock Alternative Station 106.3 or 103.6 FM. Great memories to be sure !
Fuzzy memory: In a presser I read for the release of Gaucho, Donald says they used a robo-drummer (novelty?) but first he had a geek put a variable timer into it so it would feel less robotic. Always thought that was an example of Steely Dan's brilliance.
@@ScottRainey If so, it's not apparent in the final product. I can't think of any use of WENDEL and WENDEL II on the Steely Dan and Donald Fagen releases that made use of microtempo, but maybe those with better ears than mine can point out an example or two that proves me wrong. From _Kamakiriad_ onward, live drums were used, and the drums were "quantized" by hand, probably because Beat Detective didn't come out until Pro Tools TDM 5.1 was released (2001-01-26).
@@jmdavison62 Oh, I don't think *I* could hear it. I only remember reading something like what I wrote. Memory is not something I ever made big claims about and certainly not now in my 70s.
The best interview of a musician/producer ever! A ton of knowledge and more than a ton of feeling coming from both Michael and from Rick. Now that my mind and heart have been enriched, I'm gonna go a listen to all those songs again! This is luxury, man!
Rick, absolutely terrific interview with Michael Omartian. He pays 4 years of dues in LA and his whole career suddenly takes off with that Blaine/Osbourne session. Also, great stuff on Steely Dan and Christopher Cross. Loved it!
OMG! This video had me googling musicians off and on for the first 28 minutes. Then at minute 29 I fell into a Steely Dan rabbit hole that lasted 2 hours. It took concerted effort to stop and return to this video. It easily could have gone on until the middle of night. It would have ended only due to sheer exhaustion and my journey would have still felt incomplete and unrequited. The cornucopia of amazing famous musicians that came in and out of Fagen and Becker’s orbit is mind-blowing. Jeez, Wayne Shorter, Larry Carlton and Steve Gadd all on one song. That Shorter sax and Gadd drum ‘duel’ on Aja is beyond hyperbole. Fagen and Becker were just flat out musical geniuses. I concur that Fagens solo album, Nightfly, is great. R.I.P. Walter. Another brilliantly entertaining interview. Another wonderful look into the layers and nooks and crannies of the history and craft of music. As usual providing fascinating insight and heightened appreciation for laymen and pro musicians alike. Thank you Rick for another highly satisfying music lesson.
Yes. You go down that Steely Dan rabbit hole as you said "until the middle of night". Then you realise that it's the perfect time to listen to The Nightfly. You can't escape it, and a warm, cosy feeling envelopes you.
I’ve been a fan of Omartian since the 70s. He had a number of his own albums that are great and still stand the test of time (White Horse, Adam Again, etc.) - I have original copies but I’m sure they can be found somewhere - worth a listen to really see his own musicality
As a kid I say Michael Omartian’s name on sooooo many album credits and I often wondered about his background. The man’s a genius and so humble. Thank you for this interview Rick.
The creator of one of the Greatest songs ever, JEREMIAH, in the 70's. It is a Bible based lyrics, pure Funk song, with the best Trumpet Solo ever played in that genre. I was dumbfounded the first time I heard that sound in the mid 70's. He is GENIUS!
Michael’s albums in the 70s, White Horse and Adam Again opened my eyes to the CCM genre that had a profound impact on me. I wish I could hear him talk about that.
I have a bro in law and his wife who named their daughter Rachael so they could call her Rikki . Only family know her name is Rachael. Micheal O is a musical genius God has loaned us.
@@mikemullen1413 Sadly, yes but He, Michael, and how can I forget my favorite band ever and their genius Kerry Livgren, are my absolute favorites of all time 😉🙏🏻❤️
Holy crap, Rick! Just when I think you can't do a better interview, you top yourself! It was a joy to listen to Mr. Omartian speak about his illustrious career. Thank you sooo much!
Rick, I just realized what it is about these interviews that work so well. It’s like you and the interview subject are playing music together, except you’re doing it with words in an interview. He can trust you, and so he does a great solo. he can trust you, and he will stretch himself. The best moments of the interview, you’re both in the pocket and nodding to each other. Keep it up. Thank you.
I cannot imagine being in a room with so much humble talent. Michael is a national treasure. His piano parts are absolutely integral to all the best music I grew up on.
Sir, you are on a ROLL.. I am a lay listener in your age bracket whose formative and adult years were shaped by the same pantheon of artists that you have had the privilege of interviewing. These conversations are PURE GOLD, Bar None. Much Respect and thank you for bringing them to us. KEEP THEM COMING..
Michael Omartian on Pretzel Logic through The Nightfly and bassist Chuck Rainey are not only key ingredients in the Steely Dan cocktail of the 20th Century, but also stirred the drink. Brilliant stuff! Another Great interview, Rick.
I first became familiar with the name Michael Omartian when I researched who played the incredible piano parts in "Your Mama Don't Dance" and found out that it was him. Have learned so much more about this legend. Thank you, Rick!
@@danielmccann8325 Love Dr. Wu. I worked out the sax solo on guitar and play it in a duet with my wife playing excellent rhythm guitar on it and singing harmonies. Phil Woods did the sax I think. Playing the volume swells is fun on that as well.
@@seeburg10 Steely Dan knew what the Beatles knew: If you've got a melody that sticks in people's brains, and a groove that gets them nodding their heads and tapping their feet, you can go as crazy as you want with chords, countermelodies, weird sounds, etc.
Omartian's grimace on the strings question "probably a DX1" is so farking classic. Thx for leaving that in. One of those interviews we wish would go on for days.
It was actually a PPG 2.3 with a Waveterm B. I previously sampled a patch from an Oberheim Xpander and heavily modified it to arrive at those strings. They all liked it at the time…it stuck with the final release. What can I say?
Omartian is a treasure and a genius. His solo albums from the 70s and the records with his wife Stormie are amazing. I always appreciated his work in CCM with groups like the Imperials and the 2nd Chapter of Acts.
For those of us who grew up with Steely Dan, we sometimes take it for granted. But, it was pretty special even then. I remember getting this feeling that I was hearing something special, something that was far above the regular pop music the radio played to hook us into listening to the advertisements.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW! Kudos to Rick for his labour of love! I was really formatively impacted, way back when (1982) with Michael's character, humour & poignant commentary in songs such as "Big Time", etc.- this bro has impacted many, MANY people in ways he is truly unaware of- AWESOME STUFF, RICK! THANK YOU AND MICHAEL!
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These interviews should be in the Library of Congress
I can agree with that.
Absolutely.
Completely agree. Rick just continues to produce these absolute gems. Love all the interviews and I hope he continues doing them for a long time. Bravo Rick!!!
Isn't there someone you can write, like a congressman or senator. i'm not american so i wouldn't know.
Agreed. Maybe RUclips should make the call.
This guy is 79 years old this year and still sharp as a tack. Good on him. Excellent interview.
Believe it or not, there are quite a lot of 79 year olds who are still as sharp as a tack, even if their voices are a bit more gravelly and at times a bit slower than younger folks.
And he still plays amazing.
Musicians dont get alzheimers.
@@ericlitts9917 amazing I was going to write the same thing.
@@ericlitts9917 glen campbell had Alzheimer's unfortunately
I played with Chris Cross in high school, and we hadn't seen each other for 10 years. When Chris was ready to go on the road, my name was mentioned, and Chris said, yea, give Hank a call. I got these lame charts to look over, and I asked his manager "Can I get the pre-release tapes?", and he gave them to me. I am a jazzer, and I transcribe all the time. The intro to Sailing was this rich arrangement. It's open stacked 6ths, which is a stellar idea for strings, and it's got a backwards circle of fifths progression of parallel minor 7th chords reminiscent of Jimi Hendrix's Little Wing...a really creative idea, Michael! I worked it out, and on the audition I nailed it. I remember Chris came over and said "How'd you do that?" I was hired immediately. Michael Omartian didn't mention it but he got a Grammy for Best String Arrangement for Sailing. Chris, and Tommy, and Andy, and James, we're all still great friends. Kudos, Rick, to a definitive interview!
Amazing anecdote! The intro to Sailing is one of my favourite pieces of music ever. What a stunning arrangement
the layout is appreciated, stacked 6ths(can hear the 6ths didn't know the stack, never seen the sheet mu), backward 5hs progression(this is going to help my eartrain), parallel minor 7h( play little wing all the time, did know that). the blind man sees. thanksjazz. (will research & get back 2-U). this era of hits was very commercial, foreigner was unstoppable at the time, and Christopher Cross': '" Laura " from a soap theme not only did Barry Manilow do commercials...your experience is interesting.
Wow!!!
Did you go to Alamo Heights HS? I went to Mac the same time as CC, and I remember people talking about him, other kids, during a Theater Arts competition.
@@GinoBarasa 😁Yep, AHHS. Chris and I did a duet on "Classical Gas" in high school, and then he had a famous copy band called Flash in SA...that's quite a while back there, lol😆
I love how Rick actually listens to his guests and lets them talk.
Yes,absolutly
He wants to learn. @@darionieves550
Totally, he’s a natural.
Yes indeed, combined with flawless sound and camera work. Better than any journalist or talk show host.
Rick is a a great interviewer. He’s a lot like Joe Rogan actually, he asks the question that you yourself would like to ask.
I was a “runner” at Lighthouse Studios in CA back in 1990. Michael Omartian was there producing some artist for a few days. Those few days were the fondest memories I have of my one year working at this studio. Unlike everyone else that came through there, Michael was truly down to earth and treated everyone (including the lowest on the totem pole “the runner”) equally and decently. So here’s my chance to say thanks 34 years later. God bless you dude.
Wonderful testimony to the spirit with which he seems to have gone about his work.
Ricorda che i grandi - in tutti i settori - hanno il dono dell' umiltà. Chi è pieno di se solitamente è una persona insicura e acquista sicurezza maltrattando il prossimo. Omartian appartiene alla categoria dei grandi in senso pieno e pertanto è molto umile e modesto.
Nice, TLP 😉
Ive did some records at Capitol over a period of years & I always treated the staff & runners & other engineers & whoever was there like they were just people. I remember one day one of the runners told me about this restaurant down Sunset & he was like 'Ya, they have the best green beans.' I thought 'Huh? Green beans huh?' But the next day I ordered food from there & he was right they were really good. So I ordered an extra bowl & took it up to the office & gave it to him. I'll never forget the look on that guy's face as long as I live. Id been there several times by then but Id never seen that guy there before. Its just something I felt like I should do & I could tell it made a small different in that guy's life for that one day.
Probably the best reply,I really felt that about this amazing man,your truly blessed to have known him.
Wow. Did not expect this. Michael Omartian is just brilliant, one of the great legends of music.
Hello shred master Ben 👋 (your playing is phenomenal btw)
I agree with @jacobevans4267 😊
No no no.. he's one of the great legends of music.
What R B is accomplishing with his Platform/Channel is Historic and Next Level. He Belongs in a Hall of Fame so Others might be Inspired to Appreciate all that is the “History of Music “
Only HOF? Michael is truly a legend and National Treasure!
Rick Beato is providing IMHO an invaluable service and becoming a musicology historian with these interviews. I'm 60 years old and have played guitar for 40 years and am a huge Steely Dan fan not mention all of my heroes (Beck, Clapton, Page, SRV etc.) and this interview was so fascinating and informative for me. I had no idea who Omartian was and he was so humble and unassuming. What an amazing guy and musician.
Rick, keep doing what you're doing. You are a treasure and we need this documenting of our musical history in all its forms. Bravo sir.
70 minutes you held my attention with the story of a man I'd never heard of but who single-handedly shaped the soundtrack of my youth. Thankyou.
Yes so true
single-handedly ?
..a HUGE contribution from a man I never knew existed.
Rick, you CONTINUE to blow my mind with intimate interviews with unknown legends in a music industry that shaped my life, or at least added some technicolor to it.
I am in your debt.
Beautifully said. Could not agree more.
Mr. Omartian isn't just a brilliant musician, but a gifted storyteller, too. Thank You for another hour of joy, Rick.
You are so right: there's nothing like hearing the stories from the studio during famous recording sessions....I LOVE to hear cats that actually relish in telling these details, because there are a lot of people who simply don't care so much or don't remember. Omartian is a man after my own heart in that way, as I'm a sucker for the untold story or "behind the scenes". I was plenty familiar with his name AND his playing growing up, but even I learned new things about this beautiful musician and producer. What a beautiful cat. Really incredible. People today, who didn't grow up looking in the back of records at liner notes and credits, experience music in a less dimensional way....and that's a huge loss for everybody. I feel lucky in that way.
@@FedericoGPena MANY HARDLY LISTEN TO REAL MUSIC TO BEGIN WITH, just some catchy pop stuff on media. The movie soundtracks helped a newer generation hear all kinds of stuff, but again they never held a let's say Frank Sinatra, Ray Charles, Satchmo, Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole album in their hands while listening to their respective entire albums what to speak of Miles Davis, Coltrane, Dizzy Gillespie , Bird, Peggy Lee, Bing Crosby brought jazz to the mainstream in movies especially etc. I found these in my parents collection when I was a kid in the 50;s 60's after I had my heros on the radio, Beach Boys, Beatles, & the multitude of Motown , Stax & Chess when it finally surfaced as the years went by, with all the greats like Aretha , Sam Cooke, so many who were influenced by the musicians who came before them in the Blues realm, etc. .
Whoever mic'd up the piano for this interview should win a Grammy.
It does sound incredible...but..truly...it's in his hands.
I'm not really into piano , but i totally agree. Its sounds so good
Yes, but it’s also his touch.
@@remondijk People like him who are songwriters/arrangers always play piano well because they don't just play with chords and melody (2 voices), they play the 3rd and 4th voices too which really fills up the space and allows for all these parts to be played in the mid-range which really stand out. Basically they use their thumbs in a rhythmic way to add to the melody.
I think the guy that did that won three Grammy's throughout his career....
Possibly the best use of my time. Rick has the ability to attract the giants of the music industry and tell a story that keeps you glued to your seat. Beato over Netflix any day.
its one of the best channels for music lovers, Rick is a great interviewer
100% agree.
Absolutely what an amazing interview
Excellent!
Amen
Thé Michael Omartian interview was sensational. His comment about our limitations being a major part of creativity were truly profound. What a fine person.
It was really heartening to hear that. When you're a musician, you're acutely aware of what you can't do. To actually embrace that in yourself is fantastically difficult sometimes.
I found him to be very articulate as well. Great vocabulary. He expresses himself well.
Very enjoyable interview.
The interview I didn’t know I wanted to hear with the guy I never knew I was listening to. 👍
Well said. I think. 😁
@@veribot ditto
This has probably already been mentioned but Rick is an excellent interviewer. He knows the subject, he knows when to ask the questions, and he especially knows when to listen.
And of course he should listen because he really wants to know the answers!
Its like music.. know when to speak, breathe, hold it all or go wild. Same dance
Pretty preciselly!
Yes, he’s the best! He asks questions and allows his subject to provide insights and musical gems to share with all who want to listen.
This is one of the unparralled giants in the entire music industry. I had the privilege of working with Michael on two albums he produced on me in the early ‘90’s!
Working with him was one of the truly humbling and highest honirs of my life!
So great you featured him here. Amazing interview!
I’ve listened to your records for years. Thank you for using your gift for His glory.
Living in Laodicea changed my life. Thank you for that.
Steve, I enjoyed listening to your music on KSBJ back in the 80s. Appreciate your work.
"He's ALL You Need" is one of my all time most inspiring songs!
Nice to see you here, Steve. Loved 'Run To The Battle'!
Rick's channel is so good it's interfering with my life. I have work to do today, and I just cannot shut off this interview with Michael Omartian. An absolute gem.
You and me both, brother. I think we're going to get into trouble. Ha ha.
“It’s the limitations that make the artist, not the capabilities.” That blew my mind, so brilliant!
Jerry Garcia once said, "Style is born of limitation."
Facts 100%
Bill Bruford said something similar. I think it was Discipline where Fripp said he was tired of all of Bill's cymbal playing, and he made Bill economize his use of them. That limitation opened him up to other approaches, and I think this is something Bill mentions about his talks on creativity. He's got a PhD on the subject now...
yeah. and its encouraging . we may think we're not good enough draughtsman, or sight readers, ort whatever, but that limitation causes us to find new channels to make our mark. Peter Gabriel said something similar. creative ideas come from a limited number or awkward combination of instruments
Billie Holiday is a great example of that quote regarding her vocal range.
43:37 Quote of the video: _"It's the limitations that make the artist, it's not the capabilities"_ WOW, so true, so true. Another superlative interview Rick, keep it up !!
Yeah ...you re richtig...this one is so true!!!
It’s actually the combination of both.
aka, play to your strengths... Bruce Lee famously said he didn't fear the man who knew 10,000 kicks, but the man who'd practiced 1 kick 10,000 times...
In every job we do, it is the mistakes we fix, that propel our talents.
Chet Baker!
I'm just an average Joe, 62 years old, who doesn't play any instruments, and I grew up with so much of the stuff I hear on this channel. Thank you so much for all your interviews, I have learned so much, wow, these guys have some interesting anecdotes.
I'll be 60 this summer and I completely agree with you. The music of my lifetime.
63 Ray Charles, Joe Cocker, Steely Dan, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Sun Ra, Bill Evans, Leo Kottke...
@@andrew_owens7680
That's a great list Andrew!
greetings from another 62 year old.
At min 53 you wake up to this idea that Rick Beato is every one of us - listening along with another mythic hero type - with the sneakers even - and he's any one of us. He just faked us out for 50 minutes with his level of preparation, professionalism, top shelf acumen. Living the dream. Thx man
Often felt that
Well said 👏🏼
Rick is a fan first, that's why his interviews are so good.
Very observant… great comment!
Easily one of my favorite Rick Beato videos. I could listen to guys like Michael Omartian talk all day. Congratulations on your success that has given you (and us!) the opportunity to hear from the people who contributed to so much of our musical culture. ❤
This is one of the interviews I have been waiting to see. I am so glad it's happened! I can hardly wait to finish this video! Now if Rick Beato could interview Phil Keaggy, that would be 😲
YESSSSSSSSSS
That sounds familiar. Think my dad listens to him. Is he the dulcimer guy? Or maybe a guitarist with missing fingers? Haven't heard that name in years.
I SUPPORT THIS
@@NonEuclideanTacoCannon yeah he was missing his middle finger on his right hand
Yes to Phil Keaggy!
So this is the actual piano player on the Aja track?! I always wondered my entire life what the intimate details of this session were. And Rick dug deeper than anybody ever could ever ask, here. I can't get enought of these stories of session lore. A brilliant interview of the Pianist, Producer, & gifted Session Veteran Micheal Omartian, Rick!
Rick’s also interviewed Gadd and Carlton about the Aja session (as Mike said, the session was just a 4 piece rhythm section, with Victor Feldman’s keyboards, backing vocals, Shorter’s sax solo, Denny Dias’s guitar solo, percussion, etc. all overdubbed later).
I used to work at a gas station. The owner was a twenty year Marine veteran. Every once in a while another Marine veteran from WWII would come to the station and they would tell stories from their past in the Marines. I would always be mesmerized by their stories. It was amazing how they did things without the conveniences we have now. Listening to Rick's interviews give me the same feelings I would get listening to those two veterans. These are awesome.
I could listen to Michael Omartian talk about Steely Dan forever. They instilled themselves into my musical psyche from the first. The fact he played such a huge role in how their music is constructed is no surprise. Donald Fagan is a perfectionist. He wants to commit to record what his mind conceives. Michael Omartian was a large part of making that happen.
~Thanks for another great interview. 👍
Donald Fagen è effettivamente un musicista molto rigoroso. Perde molto tempo nella preparazione dei suoi dischi. Direi un tempo esagerato per i ritmi ed i tempi di Hollywood. Omartian con la sua umiltà e pazienza è riuscito ad accontentare anche un artista complicato e insoddisfatto come Fagen.
I'll never forget Michael. There was a Keith Green concert scheduled in Portland, Oregon. Keith was tragically killed in a plane crash shortly before the scheduled concert in Portland. Michael Omartian came in and put on a concert with his wife and Melody Green. Amazing musician! ...also to be able to do this in a very emotional time!
Wow, I didnt know that story. I wish I could hear a recording of that night. I remember where I was when I heard that Keith died. I was a brand new Christian and really got into his music.
Keith Green was my bridge to christianity. I’ve never known he died like that. Oh me goodness.
Wow. Had not listened to Keith Green since 1981when I randomly bought his first album and fell in love with him. What a great voice and message he had.
@@PeterPatterson-vt2cx There's a Full Documentary on Kieth Green on You Tube that tells all about it. His life and the life of two of his children and some others that were with them were cut short that afternoon. God took them home. Praise Jesus that we will meet him if we wish later on when we graduate to the Real Life!
Knew about the crash, but not Michael's involvement. Makes me like him even more.
I first heard Michael when I was kid. It was him & his wife. They were really big in the Christian Music scene. Had I known he played with most of my favorite artists I would have liked them more if possible!!! What a awesome history! WOW!!! Just WOW! Great interview Rick!!!
Yes. Me too. I heard his Christian music, here in the UK, way back in the 80s and loved it. One of my fave albums was 'One More Song for You' by The Inperials which Michael produced and played on. He also co-wrote most of the songs. And then I learn that he's done all this other great stuff. I love Steely Dan too and didn't know he worked with them. What a talent.
Christian music? OMG no and never…..! 👹
Hearing those records cracked open for us is really emotional. That era of records is a real touchpoint for many of us of a certain age.
I just tap my screen and listen to whatever I want. An amazing sensation of touching a glass screen with my thumb that I will always hold near and dear to my heart.
OK ⬆️ Enough with the Mushroom Cornflakes
There are very few people who can facilitate an interview like this. Kudos to you, Rick.
For sure! I got such a big smile on my face when Michael called out that quote. Priceless!
I met Michael Omartian in 1969 and spent a couple of weeks with him in sessions in 1972 so that makes this my favorite Rick Beato interview. 😊
Got to meet him at 3rd & Lindsey in Nashville a few years ago. He sat in with a Steely Dan tribute band filled with outstanding session players. An amazing writer, producer, arranger and player, but an even nicer man. I believe that he is the only person to have won a Grammy in four different decades. He helped shape so many of my favorite albums and artists in the late 70’s and 80’s and then kept it up in the 90’s in Nashville with one of my favorite contemporary Christian artists 4HIM. Check out their album “The Message”. Omar is truly a gifted musician and this interview brought me such great joy.
Im 54 years old and Steely Dan is in my top five bands of all time. Im an old soul but great music is undeniable.
No one is better, not even Pink Floyd
@@scotconnolly1188 I can not disagree with you sir!
I can hardly believe what I just saw. I saw this on my watch list, turned it on and sat listening. I didn't blink. Michael is an amazing treasure and you got the opportunity to interview him. He is such a humble man and very willing to share his knowledge and stories. This was a wonderful time. I grew up like you Rick listening to the artist he was producing and playing session work on. Thanks Rick and Michael for getting together to do this interview. I went to MTSU and was in the music and rim (recording industry management) departments. I apologize for the kid that said he didn't like Steely Dan. I can only say he missed out on some magical times in music.
One of the best interviews. Thank you Rick and Michael 🙏
I spent over 10 years in the Christian Music business back in the 80s and Michael Omartian was HUGE. This was such a joy to watch him being interviewed by such an accomplished producer. This channel gets better with every upload. Thank you so much for sharing this, Rick! 🙏
i was hoping for some Christian aspect here, and got a small taste with Amy Grant
Relieved it was only a small part at the end. 🤢
@@philmoore71Good music is a gift from God, no matter who produces, performs, or writes it. And its clear that Michael - whose humility is as impressive as his talent - sees his career as a gift as well. It would have been interesting to hear him speak about the early years of CCM. But this interview was about his contribution to mainstream music. Great job by both.
Oh well, nobody's perfect... I'd like to say "Marti" was only in it for the money. Xtianity and the associated music repulses me, being a militant agnostic.
@@mauricemcguillicutty4746 i guess that 1 out of 1000 or more, make any money in music. As MO said, he did anything for those first four years... and he was one of the few gifted ones who didn't 'have to wash dishes.'
Thank you so much for this interview. For over 50 years I have been a big fan of Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina's work. Had lunch today listening to their second album. Now I understand some of the background of what made those albums so great. Michael Omartian.
I just love when Rick's guest, no matter who it maybe, is able to play on the spot 👌 parts of the songs that millions of people have enjoyed for decades.
...and he was a great guest, offering further comments all along.
Seriously, serious Cerios star 😎🎶🕶️
I rarely comment on videos; but this is so impactful. I grew up on Omartian's music: the Christian artists he produced; the records he made with his wife, Steely Dan... everything. So great to hear the stories and to see he is doing great. Thank you Rick!
I did too. I was excited to see him be interviewed here.
I briefly met Michael in 1979 at a Saturday morning Bible study at Church On The Way, along with George Grantham (the incredible drummer from Poco), and one of the members from Seawind (the tall guy, whose name I'm sorry I can't remember). I was thrilled. Such a quiet and unassuming bunch of guys. I had been a fan of Michael's since Loggins and Messina. And he truly became my hero when he produced the Imperials. He and his wife Stormie have had a wonderful influence on the lives of many people. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Rick.
Kim Hutcroft - saxes. Seawind created amazing music. @@danielgrove1300
I agree I know him from the Christian sector. Coincidentally, I have just started relistening to Second Chapter of Acts.
100% my story too, became aware of Michael Omartian via his work first with his wife Stormie on her records & then he issued forth a seemingly never ending stream of both mainstream Pop & Christian Rock & Gospel albums - too many to count truly.
Not only that but Stormie Omartians book "Power of a Praying Wife" helped restore our marriage - by God's grace - 8 years in - and it lasted 32 years total - until cancer hit & the LORD called her home.
So many great memories, musically & otherwise !
One of the more interesting interviews I've ever listened to. Love to hear all the Steely Dan stories from all the hired guns.
Agreed!
I recently went to see Lyle Lovett and his Large Band. Skunk Baxter and Russ Kunkle were among the band members. If you ever get an opportunity check it out. Really enjoyed this talented man's story.
You are one excellent interviewer: qualified enough to talk shop on their level, great probing questions, you don’t make it about you… I rarely will spend an hour on these but you and Michael got me here!
"The limitations make the artist" immediately brought to mind the Joni Mitchel line "weighing the beauty and the imperfection ". Exactly!
That definitely caught my attention.
This concept blows my mind. Honestly I’ve never heard it before.
Another grand slam. I've been listening to him my whole life but I've never even seen him. I wish this interview was three times as long. What an incredible musician and extraordinarily cool human. These interviews will be in the library of congress!
Wow. This guy was one of the most amazing players, producers, songwriters, etc. of all my life. His CCM works were also sadly very underrated. GREAT job getting with Michael! Such a superstar!
Michael goes way back and was force to be reckoned with. He put out some very fine Christian albums with his wife Stormie featured on vocals as well. But I only wish there was time to unpack his work with Loggins and Messina, again not as well known but excellent stuff from the early 70’s. GREAT INTERVIEW!
Such a humble, authentic, kind hearted, and talented man! So great to hear all the amazing stories behind these iconic recordings! Thank you Rick!!! You are a treasure to the music community!
This interview is unbelievably good! So glad Michael Omartian is getting the props he deserves. Way to go Rick!
I believe what we have here is a standing ovation!
Now I have another dimension into Steely Dan music which I dearly love. Great interview and much appreciated!
Amazing how Rick keeps an appreciation smile throughout every single word of Mr Omartian...unbelievable interview Rick. Thank you Mr Omartian for sharing so much value
Yes, Great interview !!!!
I became aware of Michael when I read his name on a Cat Stevens record in the 70's. Such a genius and down-to-earth cool cat! Love these interviews, Rick!
Holy cow! This deserves a part two. So many artists he’s worked with. There has to be more stories to uncover!
Rick, nobody does what you do. As a lover and student of music with years of playing and producing, you ask the questions that very few can even know to ask.
Sting, Peter, Perdy, Chris, Michael, Jimmy, George, Joe, Brad, Seal, and dozens of others, and now Omar talking about one of my ALL time favorite albums.
Thank you, Rick, your channel is like a Clubhouse where all the best musicians hang out. Blessings
that's the music I lived for those days. Makes my heart sing to watch him explaining Aja in its incredible complexity. Mr. Omartian is such a genius, gentle man and great storyteller. Enjoyed every minute.
I have sooooo much been hoping and waiting for this interview!! I worked for Michael back in the late 90's as a studio tech, and I have always cherished those times hanging out with him in his studio. He is every bit as gracious and cool of a dude ('Dude!') as he appears here. I was working on his console one day when he comes by and says "Dude, you want a slice of pie?" -- referring the Lou Malnati's pizza he'd just had shipped from Chicago. So he and I sat in his kitchen enjoying some of our favorite Chicago food. Great memories!
As I go back and listen to my favorite music from my youth (70's and 80's), I am constantly amazed how much of it that he either played on or produced -- or both. Thanks Rick, for being such a great interviewer and for bringing the musical genius of Michael to more folks' attention!
Thank you. Mr. Omartian's work has been part of the lives of everyone watching this, but for many of us this is the first time we've seen him or heard him speak.
I have loved this man’s playing and arrangements for fifty years and never knew what he looked like.
Omar is genuinely one of the kindest people you will ever meet and Stormie is even more so. Great family. ❤️
To this day that 1979 Christopher Cross album is still my very favourite and who doesn't love everything Steely Dan I mean come on. What a fantastic interview. Michael Omartian is an amazing storyteller, I enjoyed every minute of this interview. Many blessings to you both.
It's a joy to see how much more polished and professional Rick has become with these remarkable interviews. The lighting, audio quality, camera angles, and Rick's relaxed yet energetic and enthusiastic engagement with and appreciation for these talented individuals is top notch. Great job.
I agree.... he's getting better with each one.... getting more comfortable with the format.
Absolutely 💯 in agreement
Hearing from Michael was amazing. Steely Dan is one of my favs and "Ricki Don't Lose My Number" really grabbed me even as a teenager. "It doesn't sound good if you hit all the notes at once, I can tell you that." Brought tears to my eyes with laughter about that iconic transition.
Class act. All the notes, and theory, and attitude, and...🤔. Grace notes have more weight than we realize...,😎🎶✌️
How can you not absolutely LOVE Michael Omartian. So talented, so humble, so aware of how if you're open to the universe connecting through you, it will happen. A wonderfully uplifting and inspiring interview. It's also nice to see a genuinely "nice guy" have had so much success. Thank you Rick for bringing us all this interview.
Michael's arrangement of 4Him's song "The Love of God" brought tears everytime. Got to know his work since the 80's from Rod Stewart to The Imperials. Bless you Mr. Omartian!
Love that one too!
Glad to hear the recognition of Horace Silver's Song For My Father. Silver was a master.
At the risk of someone else mentioning it, there's also "Watermelon Man" and other Herbie Hancock tunes with similar sounds.
This was a dynamite interview! I first heard of Michael Omartian from his work with 2nd Chapter Of Acts and other Christian artists plus was very impressed by his solo albums “White Horse” and “Adam Again” in the mid 70’s.
I heard a Christian album by Michael and Stormy before I became a Christian and have not heard it in decades. I still think back to that album and a song about Jonah when I try to remember the names of the cities mentioned in the Bible. I will go try and find it now....
Could you be thinking of Jeremiah from the White Horse album?
Michael is a real hero of mine. Have followed him for 45 years. Marvelous musician and a real humble and kind man.
Rick, this is by far one of my favorite interviews. You guys nailed it. You ask the questions that some interviewers wouldn't even go near. But there is a comfort level that musicians have with you, like speaking to a brother. Well done.
I like the fact that there don't seem to be "gotcha" questions in the interviews. The guests know that they can trust Rick, and are relaxed, and tell such great stories!
Wonderful interview. One of the best. Omartian is a fascinating study musically and also admired for his strong Christian faith in an industry where that is not usually appreciated. Great job, Rick.
This guy has made growing up in the 60’s and 70’s so much richer. I have always been a huge fan of Steely Dan and Christopher Cross! I graduated HS in 1979 and had a great stereo when I went off to college. And would blast all of these albums. Not sure my Dormitory neighbours
Appreciated it like I did but they were always asking to borrow my records. Thank you for a great interview!!
Thank you Thank you & Thank you for this wonderful interview with Michael Omartian. Short story here: When Christopher Crosses first album came out, I was blown away! I looked at three people within that project. Michael the producer, Christopher the artist, and Chet the engineer. During the late 70's and early 80's I was a young and budding recording engineer in Hawaii. A local record label, "Panini Records hired Lee Hersberg from Warner Brother record to engineer this particular project. Thus began my internship of learning from one of the best I consider in Audio Engineering. I was at the right place at the right time. I assisted Lee during the entire project. In time, I was able to witness the mixing of the second album at Amigo studios. Now at the time Christopher was working on his second album, I was in LA mastering a project at Amigo Studios. I had heard that Chet Hines was mixing Christopher's second album. So During a break from my session, I visited the control room where Chet was mixing the album. Michael Omartian was there sitting quietly. I introduced myself and asked if I could sit, watch and listen to how Chet mixed this particular project. I remember hearing the song "Laura" for the first time there. I am glad to have been there to witness great talents at work. It was an awesome experience for me. And by the way, I give Chet full credit for developing the Wind screen used for recording vocals. It basically was a nylon stocking stretched on a wired coat hanger. I took the idea back to Hawaii. Later, it became commercialized all over the world. Again, GREAT INTERVIEW with Michael Martian.
What a wonderful man. Incredibly talented, humble and graceful. Thank you, Rick.
Every one of your interviews is like a master class
Omar is exactly how he is here in person -
Such a generous guy and fun to work with.
Ha Rick, I just discovered you interviewed the great, yet somewhat obscure brilliant & influential Michael Omartian !
This is gonna be a great interview, I can't wait but it's 1:30 am & pillow time.
Just let me say Michael's a FAB artist in his own right - give his double album "White Horse / Adam Again" a good listen - you'll see his musical brilliance.
I can't thank you enough for interviewing this humble man of God & integrity filled music producer !
Yes, I loved "White Horse" and wore it out. Weirdly, I never got to the other one, which I now see was recorded and released after White Horse.
@@dwightropp3014
Right on 👍
I just checked Amazon it's available as an mp3 download for $8.99
Uh, the CD is $500.00
Crazy but it's rare.
I'd better go find mine & put it in the safe LoL
PS White Horse @ 1974
Adam Again @ 1976
I think the double CD I have was from 1991.
Boones Overstock does CD reissues of rare but in demand old CCM.
Maybe they could ?
Or contact Michael Omartians office to inquire ?
@psalm2forliberty577 Somewhere in here is your reply to my comment about Michael. In it you mentioned the loss of your wife. I had not seen your reply until just now and wanted to let you know how sorry I am to hear that. thank you for mentioning Michael's solo albums. I will check them out. God bless you.
I used to play songs from White Horse as a college radio dj at KSCC, Costa Mesa. Not to mention songs from an Omartian produced album by Matthew Ward called Toward Eternity. I'll always remember Omartian's "Killer Bees" keyboard solo. Great stuff!
@@Isaiah538
AWESOME 👍😎.
What years was that ?
I used to buy all my CCM CDs & Albums at the Costa Mesa Maranatha Books & Music store.
Circa 1985-88
Do you remember that ?
(Just saw the White Horse CD sells fur for $500 now - I'd better find mine
Lol)
KYMS was the big Christian Pop Rock Alternative Station 106.3 or 103.6 FM.
Great memories to be sure !
No clicks on SD is why they sound so organic and natural.
Fuzzy memory: In a presser I read for the release of Gaucho, Donald says they used a robo-drummer (novelty?) but first he had a geek put a variable timer into it so it would feel less robotic. Always thought that was an example of Steely Dan's brilliance.
@@ScottRainey If so, it's not apparent in the final product. I can't think of any use of WENDEL and WENDEL II on the Steely Dan and Donald Fagen releases that made use of microtempo, but maybe those with better ears than mine can point out an example or two that proves me wrong.
From _Kamakiriad_ onward, live drums were used, and the drums were "quantized" by hand, probably because Beat Detective didn't come out until Pro Tools TDM 5.1 was released (2001-01-26).
@@jmdavison62 Oh, I don't think *I* could hear it. I only remember reading something like what I wrote. Memory is not something I ever made big claims about and certainly not now in my 70s.
He worked and produced some of the greatest Contemporary Christian records of the late 70’s and early 80’s. What a talent.
His work on Amy Grant's Heart in Motion stands the test of time.
The Imperials “One More Song For You” album is classic Omartian. Most of the songs written by Michael and his wife, Stormie. It is a smash!
Seasons of the soul, one to mention❤
I wonder if he worked with Keith Green?
@@dwightvoeks9970 google search showed nothing... but they both had compositions on 2nd Chap of Acts
The best interview of a musician/producer ever! A ton of knowledge and more than a ton of feeling coming from both Michael and from Rick. Now that my mind and heart have been enriched, I'm gonna go a listen to all those songs again! This is luxury, man!
Rick, absolutely terrific interview with Michael Omartian. He pays 4 years of dues in LA and his whole career suddenly takes off with that Blaine/Osbourne session. Also, great stuff on Steely Dan and Christopher Cross. Loved it!
OMG! This video had me googling musicians off and on for the first 28 minutes. Then at minute 29 I fell into a Steely Dan rabbit hole that lasted 2 hours. It took concerted effort to stop and return to this video. It easily could have gone on until the middle of night. It would have ended only due to sheer exhaustion and my journey would have still felt incomplete and unrequited. The cornucopia of amazing famous musicians that came in and out of Fagen and Becker’s orbit is mind-blowing. Jeez, Wayne Shorter, Larry Carlton and Steve Gadd all on one song. That Shorter sax and Gadd drum ‘duel’ on Aja is beyond hyperbole. Fagen and Becker were just flat out musical geniuses. I concur that Fagens solo album, Nightfly, is great. R.I.P. Walter. Another brilliantly entertaining interview. Another wonderful look into the layers and nooks and crannies of the history and craft of music. As usual providing fascinating insight and heightened appreciation for laymen and pro musicians alike. Thank you Rick for another highly satisfying music lesson.
that’s my favorite thing about steely Dan- the rabbit hole is just too fun
Ran down the Steely Dan rabbit hole a few years ago for a couple months. It’s endless.
Yer funny! Agreed and well put.
Yes. You go down that Steely Dan rabbit hole as you said "until the middle of night". Then you realise that it's the perfect time to listen to The Nightfly. You can't escape it, and a warm, cosy feeling envelopes you.
@@jbuk4369 Any Major dude would tell you….
I’ve been a fan of Omartian since the 70s. He had a number of his own albums that are great and still stand the test of time (White Horse, Adam Again, etc.) - I have original copies but I’m sure they can be found somewhere - worth a listen to really see his own musicality
White Horse is epic!
Sn musicisti di 1certo vibro@..non stsnvano mai ...di ascoltarli!..anzi,non smetteresti mai di sentirli a suonare ecc.
Adam Again is one of my favorites!
Got them on my iPhone as we speak👍🏽
As a kid I say Michael Omartian’s name on sooooo many album credits and I often wondered about his background. The man’s a genius and so humble. Thank you for this interview Rick.
An hour of pure joy. Nobody can touch Rick interviewing artist.
The creator of one of the Greatest songs ever, JEREMIAH, in the 70's. It is a Bible based lyrics, pure Funk song, with the best Trumpet Solo ever played in that genre. I was dumbfounded the first time I heard that sound in the mid 70's. He is GENIUS!
Michael’s albums in the 70s, White Horse and Adam Again opened my eyes to the CCM genre that had a profound impact on me. I wish I could hear him talk about that.
I have a bro in law and his wife who named their daughter Rachael so they could call her Rikki . Only family know her name is Rachael. Micheal O is a musical genius God has loaned us.
@@timallisonewer9141 Indeed, talent from God!
"See This House" from Adam Again -- one of my favorite songs of all time.
Michael Omartian & Phil Keaggy: two of the greatest musical genius’, wonderful Christian men 😊
Agree 100%. Although most people would say Phil who???
@@mikemullen1413 Sadly, yes but He, Michael, and how can I forget my favorite band ever and their genius Kerry Livgren, are my absolute favorites of all time 😉🙏🏻❤️
I got to meet Phil at a conference we played in AZ a few years ago. He is such a kind and talented man.
Praise the Lord! Musical excellence for the beauty and glory of God!!
Absolutely!
Holy crap, Rick! Just when I think you can't do a better interview, you top yourself! It was a joy to listen to Mr. Omartian speak about his illustrious career. Thank you sooo much!
Rick, I just realized what it is about these interviews that work so well. It’s like you and the interview subject are playing music together, except you’re doing it with words in an interview. He can trust you, and so he does a great solo. he can trust you, and he will stretch himself. The best moments of the interview, you’re both in the pocket and nodding to each other. Keep it up. Thank you.
This is the best thing in RUclips. Tell the people you love.
I cannot imagine being in a room with so much humble talent. Michael is a national treasure. His piano parts are absolutely integral to all the best music I grew up on.
Rick, it's important these conversations happen and stories are told. To you and Mr. Omartian, thank you. I loved every minute of it.
Sir, you are on a ROLL..
I am a lay listener in your age bracket whose formative and adult years were shaped by the same pantheon of artists that you have had the privilege of interviewing. These conversations are PURE GOLD, Bar None. Much Respect and thank you for bringing them to us. KEEP THEM COMING..
Thats exciting to read your comment! Theres zest for life in your words 🫶🏻
Rick you are a living legend. Thank you Sir for all that you do.
Michael Omartian has been a hero of mine since the 70’s. He had a couple of his own albums that were just wonderful. So nice to hear these stories!
I am so thankful for the contribution he made to the Christian Music scene.
It was my fantasy when I was growing up to be Omar's apprentice. The man is a legend! AND he loves Jesus!
All your interviews are great, but THIS ONE takes the cake for me! Thank You!
Michael Omartian on Pretzel Logic through The Nightfly and bassist Chuck Rainey are not only key ingredients in the Steely Dan cocktail of the 20th Century, but also stirred the drink. Brilliant stuff! Another Great interview, Rick.
I first became familiar with the name Michael Omartian when I researched who played the incredible piano parts in "Your Mama Don't Dance" and found out that it was him. Have learned so much more about this legend. Thank you, Rick!
Michael Omartian?! My favorite Steely Dan keys man?! The interview I've been waiting for! Thanks, Rick! 🩵🩵🩵
His work on Dr. Wu is pinnacle Dan .
@@danielmccann8325 Absolutely! The prototype for the song “Aja” and more emotional, in my opinion.
@@danielmccann8325 Love Dr. Wu. I worked out the sax solo on guitar and play it in a duet with my wife playing excellent rhythm guitar on it and singing harmonies. Phil Woods did the sax I think. Playing the volume swells is fun on that as well.
@@seeburg10 Steely Dan knew what the Beatles knew: If you've got a melody that sticks in people's brains, and a groove that gets them nodding their heads and tapping their feet, you can go as crazy as you want with chords, countermelodies, weird sounds, etc.
Michael's playing makes my heart sing. Thank you Rick for another amazing guest.
Omartian's grimace on the strings question "probably a DX1" is so farking classic. Thx for leaving that in. One of those interviews we wish would go on for days.
It was actually a PPG 2.3 with a Waveterm B. I previously sampled a patch from an Oberheim Xpander and heavily modified it to arrive at those strings. They all liked it at the time…it stuck with the final release. What can I say?
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Omartian is a treasure and a genius. His solo albums from the 70s and the records with his wife Stormie are amazing. I always appreciated his work in CCM with groups like the Imperials and the 2nd Chapter of Acts.
I only started to listen to Steely Dan because I watch this channel. Cheers Rick.
Lucky you, its fabulous 😊
Better late than never!
You’ve got good taste..
Steely Dan
For those of us who grew up with Steely Dan, we sometimes take it for granted. But, it was pretty special even then. I remember getting this feeling that I was hearing something special, something that was far above the regular pop music the radio played to hook us into listening to the advertisements.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW! Kudos to Rick for his labour of love! I was really formatively impacted, way back when (1982) with Michael's character, humour & poignant commentary in songs such as "Big Time", etc.- this bro has impacted many, MANY people in ways he is truly unaware of- AWESOME STUFF, RICK! THANK YOU AND MICHAEL!
Wow! Just wow! This is unbelievable! I actually became familiar with Omartian from his work in Christian music. This is sooo good!