What do you think, is the overheating an issue with the R8? I have also heard of much worse results with the camera, but these are the results I got in my testing
Hi there! Thanks for the video. I used my new R8 with 24-105mm EF lens to test 4K 60FPS. The room was about 18 Degree Celsius and I used Sandisk V3 (90MB/S write time) to shoot 20min 4K 60 FPS. It works fine to me with a V30 card so I wonder if I need a V60 or V90 card. Thanks.
Hi! Thanks for your comment 😊 A V30 technically should be enough for the R8, but I had major buffer issues with a V60 card, but that card has been 100% fine with other cameras with much heavier codecs, so it might have been an issue with my unit of the R8 too. But just to be sure, it’s always better to have a faster card
If possible, I’d like for you to test in full sun on a normal temperature day like 75 degrees. Sometimes, I want to record my daughter play sports outside. I’m curious to see what the experience would be like. Thanks! :)
They could put a large battery in small camera like Fujifilm xs20 has but they chose not to to protect their more expensive models. Typical canon hammer 🔨.
Thanks for the video. Can I keep one extra battery or keep a battery pack? I take agricultural videos , farmers , crops. Insects in the fields. Two batteries are enough for 2 hrs video I suppose. Or need a power bank ! Pl
Thanks for the video. I’m looking at the R8 and I’m coming from the m50 so I’m used to having to carry multiple batteries. Good news about the overheating in 4k 60. I normally only use 60 fps when I know I’m going to slow down the footage so it is mostly short b-roll clips. Would love to see a video testing the 60 fps in that scenario. Short bursts of recording
In my use, short bursts in 4K50 have had no issues with overheating, but I’ve seen talk about the R8 overheating even in photo mode. Not sure if it’s a firmware issue or if there are faulty units out there, but it seems like some units overheat easier than others
It definitely overheats. I ordered one and tried it at home, regular home temperature. It started overheating after 20 minutes while I was just playing around in the menu and taking the occasional photo, not doing anything special. Not even trying video yet. They need to fix this. Myself I returned it.
@@kaspergaram do you know that for a fact? Your saying that 120 shutter speed does not require more in camera processing then 60 shutter speed? I think you are extremely wrong.
Hi Kasper! very nice work. I do really enjoy you stuff. Succes!! I see on internet, some youtube channel exacly, that the Canon R8 is overheating very fast, less than 20 minuts in 4k 24p. So, i'm a lil confuse! How much time you think the Canon R8 can record in 24p 4k in summer, or an hot environement, with internal battery, without overheats? Thanks a lot for the help! It seams to be a great deal this camera, and I'm curious about it! Maybe buy one on the future! Thanks a lot for the help! Succes!!!
Thanks a lot 😊 yes, you are correct, some people have a lot worse performance than I did. It’s hard to tell what kind of performance you would have because people get such different results
@@kaspergaram So you have a "normal" room temperature for this test, as it is the same "normal" as canon's 0:27. Some tests have shown that the camera heats more running on the battery than with USB-c power, where overheating is less significant.
@@blaspayri that could be, but I have had no overheating issues with battery power either. In real-world use, overheating has not been an issue for me in any way at all. But there are so damn mixed results online that I don’t even trust my own experiences anymore 😂
You got the one everyone else hasn’t..lucky I haven’t mine heats up going thru settings. And I’m lucky to get more than half an hour outa the batt. Bugger that.
Yeah according to a lot of comments online, it seems like there's tons of variation in terms of overheating and battery life performance with the R8, depending on the unit you got. I hope this is a firmware thing
@@kaspergaram yea but even if the firmware sorts the heating, ya still get terrible batt life. I got a band so we play for 4 hours average. So this thing is never gonna be any good, you may say get a video camera but I also shoot real estate stuff. So I’m going with the R6m2.
Most weddings, communions, parties are on location outdoors in the summer, in the middle of the heat of the day. You have no other choice this is the important moment that this camera must work without any problems! Then indoor shots where the sun shines on the camera are not a real benchmark! How can firmware solve a heat problem? It can only ensure that the protection against overheating is off. the only good solution is a fan that blows away the hot air! If the printed circuit board gets too hot in the camera, it must be cooled down with a fan, just like in a computer (see how many fans there are on a modern graphics card). In the other case, it will switch itself off if a too high temperature has been exceeded. If you now disable this protection or adjust the value via a software update instead of 80 degrees to 120 degrees, it will continue to work longer, but at what price? Therefore, using an external battery, external memory, opening all covers and screen is a small solution against a construction error!
Yes, you are absolutely correct. But we do need some kind of benchmarks to see how a product performs in comparison to other similar products, right? Personally, I wouldn’t want to keep my camera in a hot sunny spot for too long even if it was turned off all the time. It will get hot no matter what, if the sun is blasting at it. Shutting down due to overheating is a good thing in many cases, but if the camera makes itself overheat too easily, it’s not fun.
@@kaspergaramThe only good solution is a fan that blows away the hot air (like the new Panasonic DC-S5ii) or water cooling just like in a computer! too much heat is detrimental to electronic components
Thanks so much for the test and conclusion. Did you test with Power delivery also, to see if result is the same ? Also, maybe with dummy batterie, it would be better, as the source of energy and heat is outside then. Realy interrested if you have done thoses tests ! Thanks from France :)
I’ve heard that too but I can’t confirm that. I haven’t even had the temperature meter show up in stills mode. No issues for me, but i’ve seen talk about that too so it seems to be happening. It could be a firmware thing too since it is still in 1.0.0
@@kaspergaram Last session, I used R6 and was very pleased with what it has, battery and 2 memory card slots are really useful, I think I will not switch to R8 Thanks
Imagine filming short sessions of a wedding in the sun but without a 15 minute rest between each shot for a total of about 25 minutes! This is very normal use, then the camera does not have time to cool down and overheats! then one of the most important moments of the day comes and your camera is worth nothing and has to cool down for 15 minutes. you can no longer film the moment the couple walks away from the altar between the family and the guests! you can quickly use your cheaper mobile phone to see the couple leave with the bridal car! I think this is the worst nightmare a cameraman can go through.
Exactly the reason why I will never shoot weddings again 😂 I've done a couple and damn it was stressful. Not my cup of tea at all. But yeah, that's also why there are tools for hobbyists and different tools for professionals.
@@kaspergaram honestly I'd give more for a reliable camera in all conditions! Then these 4K and 6K images, this must also be the most important for the hobbyist. Otherwise you might as well film everything with your I Phone!
What do you think, is the overheating an issue with the R8? I have also heard of much worse results with the camera, but these are the results I got in my testing
Super helpful! Thanks!
Thanks a lot 😊
Hi there! Thanks for the video. I used my new R8 with 24-105mm EF lens to test 4K 60FPS. The room was about 18 Degree Celsius and I used Sandisk V3 (90MB/S write time) to shoot 20min 4K 60 FPS. It works fine to me with a V30 card so I wonder if I need a V60 or V90 card. Thanks.
Hi! Thanks for your comment 😊 A V30 technically should be enough for the R8, but I had major buffer issues with a V60 card, but that card has been 100% fine with other cameras with much heavier codecs, so it might have been an issue with my unit of the R8 too. But just to be sure, it’s always better to have a faster card
If possible, I’d like for you to test in full sun on a normal temperature day like 75 degrees. Sometimes, I want to record my daughter play sports outside. I’m curious to see what the experience would be like. Thanks! :)
This guy says it overheated shooting stills only ruclips.net/video/8Mb_PKuphoA/видео.html
I’d want to do a test like that but the weathers aren’t looking too promising for the next couple of weeks here 😂😅
They could put a large battery in small camera like Fujifilm xs20 has but they chose not to to protect their more expensive models. Typical canon hammer 🔨.
Yup, definitely a business choice. Or they could have made the grip a tiiiny bit larger if the battery wouldn’t fit
Thanks for the video. Can I keep one extra battery or keep a battery pack? I take agricultural videos , farmers , crops. Insects in the fields. Two batteries are enough for 2 hrs video I suppose. Or need a power bank ! Pl
Yes definitely you can do that. But keep in mind that if the camera overheats, it will still be overheated when you change the battery
Thanks for the video. I’m looking at the R8 and I’m coming from the m50 so I’m used to having to carry multiple batteries. Good news about the overheating in 4k 60. I normally only use 60 fps when I know I’m going to slow down the footage so it is mostly short b-roll clips. Would love to see a video testing the 60 fps in that scenario. Short bursts of recording
In my use, short bursts in 4K50 have had no issues with overheating, but I’ve seen talk about the R8 overheating even in photo mode. Not sure if it’s a firmware issue or if there are faulty units out there, but it seems like some units overheat easier than others
@@kaspergaram hopefully they will release a firmware update down the road that corrects some of this issues
@@ButchFagan hope so, but only time will tell
@@pal54321 yes, definitely, but it’s also a lot more expensive
If you still have the camera, have you upgraded the firmware since you did this test a year ago? Same issue?
I'm sorry but I don't have the camera anymore and I can't test it
please check battery life & over heating test in 1080 60p or 50p mode.thanks
Sorry, but i don’t have the camera amymore
@@kaspergaramwhy did you sell it? 🤔
@@EverythingCameFromNothing it didn’t fit my needs at all. I’m not rich enough to own two cameras right now 😂
@@kaspergaram fair enough! I’m curious to know which camera you did choose?
@@EverythingCameFromNothing i have the R6 mark ii 😊
Thank you.. I have a question, can you shoot a video with the camera on the charger?
Yes you can. You can power it with usb-c like i did in the test too
It definitely overheats. I ordered one and tried it at home, regular home temperature. It started overheating after 20 minutes while I was just playing around in the menu and taking the occasional photo, not doing anything special. Not even trying video yet. They need to fix this. Myself I returned it.
I have heard of a lot of comments like this. It seems like there are major firmware issues at the time being.
are you doubling your frame rate? I see you shooting 4k60 but ur shutter speed is 80... I thought shutter speed was suppose to be double.
That doesn’t affect overheating in any way 😊 but yes, generally you would double the frame rate to get the correct shutter speed
@@kaspergaram do you know that for a fact? Your saying that 120 shutter speed does not require more in camera processing then 60 shutter speed? I think you are extremely wrong.
@@BleepingWorld yes i know that for a fact. What you’re thinking of is frame rate
Hi Kasper! very nice work. I do really enjoy you stuff. Succes!!
I see on internet, some youtube channel exacly, that the Canon R8 is overheating very fast, less than 20 minuts in 4k 24p. So, i'm a lil confuse!
How much time you think the Canon R8 can record in 24p 4k in summer, or an hot environement, with internal battery, without overheats? Thanks a lot for the help!
It seams to be a great deal this camera, and I'm curious about it! Maybe buy one on the future!
Thanks a lot for the help! Succes!!!
Thanks a lot 😊 yes, you are correct, some people have a lot worse performance than I did. It’s hard to tell what kind of performance you would have because people get such different results
Powers well from a USB C battery for longer, if you’ve got a static shot. People are getting 2 hours plus.
True
Can you also use the camera while powering it with the power bank, for the video?
You can power the camera with usb-c, but it needs to have enough output to keep the camera going, so you need a very good power bank
thanks for this test. What is the "normal" temperature in the room for your tests (in degrees)?
Hahah good question! It’s around 23 degrees celcius
@@kaspergaram So you have a "normal" room temperature for this test, as it is the same "normal" as canon's 0:27. Some tests have shown that the camera heats more running on the battery than with USB-c power, where overheating is less significant.
@@blaspayri that could be, but I have had no overheating issues with battery power either. In real-world use, overheating has not been an issue for me in any way at all. But there are so damn mixed results online that I don’t even trust my own experiences anymore 😂
@@kaspergaram I hope I don't need to move to Helsinki to avoid overheating 🙂although with climate change one never knows
@@blaspayri hahahh i just wish i could go to a warmer place 😂 i just hope canon releases a firmware update that fixes the issues 😊
I shot a music video with it last week. No issues.
That’s good to hear! Did you shoot in 4K 50/60fps too?
You got the one everyone else hasn’t..lucky I haven’t mine heats up going thru settings. And I’m lucky to get more than half an hour outa the batt. Bugger that.
Yeah according to a lot of comments online, it seems like there's tons of variation in terms of overheating and battery life performance with the R8, depending on the unit you got. I hope this is a firmware thing
@@kaspergaram yea but even if the firmware sorts the heating, ya still get terrible batt life. I got a band so we play for 4 hours average. So this thing is never gonna be any good, you may say get a video camera but I also shoot real estate stuff. So I’m going with the R6m2.
@@3Kiwiana my thoughts exactly. My biggest issue with the R8 by far at this point is the battery life
how about in 1080 24 P how long does battery last?
I’m sorry but I never tested that 😔
Most weddings, communions, parties are on location outdoors in the summer, in the middle of the heat of the day.
You have no other choice this is the important moment that this camera must work without any problems!
Then indoor shots where the sun shines on the camera are not a real benchmark!
How can firmware solve a heat problem?
It can only ensure that the protection against overheating is off.
the only good solution is a fan that blows away the hot air!
If the printed circuit board gets too hot in the camera, it must be cooled down with a fan, just like in a computer (see how many fans there are on a modern graphics card).
In the other case, it will switch itself off if a too high temperature has been exceeded.
If you now disable this protection or adjust the value via a software update instead of 80 degrees to 120 degrees, it will continue to work longer, but at what price?
Therefore, using an external battery, external memory, opening all covers and screen is a small solution against a construction error!
Yes, you are absolutely correct. But we do need some kind of benchmarks to see how a product performs in comparison to other similar products, right? Personally, I wouldn’t want to keep my camera in a hot sunny spot for too long even if it was turned off all the time. It will get hot no matter what, if the sun is blasting at it. Shutting down due to overheating is a good thing in many cases, but if the camera makes itself overheat too easily, it’s not fun.
@@kaspergaramThe only good solution is a fan that blows away the hot air (like the new Panasonic DC-S5ii) or water cooling just like in a computer!
too much heat is detrimental to electronic components
True. And there's a very good reason why cinema cameras are larger than hybrid cameras. One of the reasons is the fact that they need to house a fan.
@@pfv3462looks like the R5C is the solution for you 😃
Thanks so much for the test and conclusion. Did you test with Power delivery also, to see if result is the same ? Also, maybe with dummy batterie, it would be better, as the source of energy and heat is outside then. Realy interrested if you have done thoses tests ! Thanks from France :)
Thanks a lot 😊 ah good question, i never tried with external power. I also never had a dummy battery but you’re right, that should help. Merci!
Does it overheat in stills mode? I have been hearing from a few people that it does. Can you confirm that?
I’ve heard that too but I can’t confirm that. I haven’t even had the temperature meter show up in stills mode. No issues for me, but i’ve seen talk about that too so it seems to be happening. It could be a firmware thing too since it is still in 1.0.0
@@kaspergaram Did you shoot the stills indoor or outdoor? And the ambient temperature was cool or warm?
@@QaziAdil i’ve been testing both but mainly outdoors. The temperature has only been around 15 celsius
@@kaspergaram Maybe that’s why. It will be interesting to see how it performs in stills mode when the temperature gets warm outside
@@QaziAdil for sure! Stills overheating has never before been an issue so it would be weird if it truly was an issue with the R8
how to compare with R6, i am ussing R6 and i want to change to R8 now, i am wondering if it is goood enough
You shouldn’t. I have the R6 and decided to much rather keep the R6 over the R8. It won’t feel like an upgrade at all
@@kaspergaram Last session, I used R6 and was very pleased with what it has, battery and 2 memory card slots are really useful, I think I will not switch to R8
Thanks
@@tieuhotieulong yeah i think you definitely made the right choice ✌️
How about photos. How many shots can be taken with that battery?
That depends on so many things it’s hard to say. It’s rated at 220-370 photos, but in real world the numbers are often higher
Imagine filming short sessions of a wedding in the sun but without a 15 minute rest between each shot for a total of about 25 minutes!
This is very normal use, then the camera does not have time to cool down and overheats!
then one of the most important moments of the day comes and your camera is worth nothing and has to cool down for 15 minutes.
you can no longer film the moment the couple walks away from the altar between the family and the guests!
you can quickly use your cheaper mobile phone to see the couple leave with the bridal car!
I think this is the worst nightmare a cameraman can go through.
Exactly the reason why I will never shoot weddings again 😂 I've done a couple and damn it was stressful. Not my cup of tea at all. But yeah, that's also why there are tools for hobbyists and different tools for professionals.
@@kaspergaram honestly I'd give more for a reliable camera in all conditions!
Then these 4K and 6K images, this must also be the most important for the hobbyist.
Otherwise you might as well film everything with your I Phone!
@@pfv3462 true. One thing I can’t wrap my head around is the high megapixel craze. I mean, do you really need 50mpix for your instagram photos?
How much time run battry if i shoot 1080p 50fps
Video resolution or fps shouldn’t affect battery life 😊
Can u please how longer battry run if i fully charged
@@rahull7866 i don’t have the camera anymore, so i’m sorry but i can’t test it more than what i tell in this video